Time For the Callups

devs44
10-28-2007, 12:45 PM
I think this is a good time to call Corrente up and have him develop in the NHL. This is an emergency call up. :biglaugh:

Defensive lines:

Martin-Corrente(he can play on the top pair so he develops quicker)
Greene-Rachunek
Vishnevski-Brookbank

Also, Elias should be moved to the right wing. He is having trouble getting shots off and if he is on the right side he will be able to cut across the grain and shoot without hesitation like he does on the left side.

Jason MacIsaac
10-28-2007, 12:48 PM
Mark Fraser should be up with the team...on an under 500 Lowell team he has 4 points in 8 games and is a +5. He is NHL ready IMO.

jkrdevil
10-28-2007, 12:50 PM
To call up Corrente (even if you could) would be dumb. He is not going to solve the problems the only thing it would do would be make him a free agent a year sooner.

TaiMaiShu
10-28-2007, 12:56 PM
Ditto, Fraser needs to be here.

TZajac19
10-28-2007, 01:10 PM
I dont think we can call up Corrente didnt he go to Jr's. I think once he is there he cant come up this year. I might be wrong. The real think is Oduya needs to be sat for Motteu let is be

Martin - Motteu
Greene - Karel
Vash - Brookbank

I think that is better then oduya at lest Motteu played good.

And ur Pat Burns call up is stupid. Its the mans 1st ten games in the NHL Unless we are 10-50 sutter isnt going anywhere this year. I think he is going to be here next year before the call in a failer. If he stays 2 years and he draft and sign people to play his hockey.

Lou's Koolaid
10-28-2007, 01:11 PM
Ditto, Fraser needs to be here.Great avatar:biglaugh: We must bring up Grant Marshall now! The Pandolfos gotta bring them up too. AHHHHH what the hell bring em all up!:naughty:

devilzrule27
10-28-2007, 01:16 PM
Fraser and Bergfors are the two I would bring up. Bergfors only got a one game trial I think he deserves a little more of a chance and its not like the guys that are in there over him are scoring much.

devs44
10-28-2007, 01:19 PM
Corrente can only be called up on an emergency basis and I really don't care if he gets to be a fa one year sooner. He is 19 years old and I really don't think that it matters if he gains a year of eligibility. We could use him.

I don't know what the definition of emergency basis is though.
When your team is 3-6-1, I consider that an emergency basis.

Gunnar Stahl 30
10-28-2007, 01:28 PM
I dont think we can call up Corrente didnt he go to Jr's. I think once he is there he cant come up this year. I might be wrong. The real think is Oduya needs to be sat for Motteu let is be

Martin - Motteu
Greene - Karel
Vash - Brookbank

I think that is better then oduya at lest Motteu played good.

And ur Pat Burns call up is stupid. Its the mans 1st ten games in the NHL Unless we are 10-50 sutter isnt going anywhere this year. I think he is going to be here next year before the call in a failer. If he stays 2 years and he draft and sign people to play his hockey.

i wouldnt want matteu or mattau, id rather have fraser. he alot like colin white

Devilswede
10-28-2007, 01:29 PM
Rachunek is out for a while with a groin injury, so it looks like you Oduya haters will be disappointed once again.

This team is on the downfall...unfortunately. I'm sorry to say, but we might be this year's version of the Flyers from 06-07.

Just look at our defense. How far can we expect to go with that kind of lineup?! Jeeez....Lou has done a terrible job with the defense.

TZajac19
10-28-2007, 01:39 PM
I am not an Oduya hater i just feel he might need to sit a couple games. He has been better the last few games but sometimes seems lost. Brookbank is playing fine. Fraser is fine to i just really think Oduya needs a few games rest. I understand y Sutter wants to play him last year at the start he was very very good but something happened at the all star break last year and i dont kno what it was. But he has the potental to be good Sutter is just hoping and waiting to see it again

Central Jersey Devil
10-28-2007, 01:44 PM
Rachunek is out for a while with a groin injury, so it looks like you Oduya haters will be disappointed once again.

This team is on the downfall...unfortunately. I'm sorry to say, but we might be this year's version of the Flyers from 06-07.

Just look at our defense. How far can we expect to go with that kind of lineup?! Jeeez....Lou has done a terrible job with the defense.

Honestly, I'm prepared for that. the Devils of the recent past are not going back to that style for a Loooong time, if ever. Lou knows his time is coming to an end, and I think he acknowledges that and that' is one of the reasons he has given Sutter so much freedom. Sutter is his exit strategy.

If we are the Flyers of last year, so be it, a great draft is coming and I'd personally like to see us eventually become an offensive juggernaut like Ottawa is now or Colorado was in the early 2000's.

Sometimes, you have to break out of your comfort zone, which for us, was the trap and a stifling defense, in order to move forward into the future.

devilzrule27
10-28-2007, 02:20 PM
Honestly, I'm prepared for that. the Devils of the recent past are not going back to that style for a Loooong time, if ever. Lou knows his time is coming to an end, and I think he acknowledges that and that' is one of the reasons he has given Sutter so much freedom. Sutter is his exit strategy.

If we are the Flyers of last year, so be it, a great draft is coming and I'd personally like to see us eventually become an offensive juggernaut like Ottawa is now or Colorado was in the early 2000's.

Sometimes, you have to break out of your comfort zone, which for us, was the trap and a stifling defense, in order to move forward into the future.

Alot of great points made there CJD. Especially your last paragraph. MArty isn't going to be here much longer, only a few good years left, the defence is already turning over with only a few players that are going to last in jersey, Martin and Greene. This team is a changing, i think we can still be good but certainly not a contender for a couple of years.

BDubinskyNYR17*
10-28-2007, 02:25 PM
Rachunek is out for a while with a groin injury, so it looks like you Oduya haters will be disappointed once again.

This team is on the downfall...unfortunately. I'm sorry to say, but we might be this year's version of the Flyers from 06-07.

Just look at our defense. How far can we expect to go with that kind of lineup?! Jeeez....Lou has done a terrible job with the defense.

yea replacing Rafalski with Rachunek was a great move, as a Rangers fan, Im shocked u guys signed that bum Rachoknek. He is garbage.

devilfan57
10-28-2007, 02:33 PM
Corrente can only be called up on an emergency basis and I really don't care if he gets to be a fa one year sooner. He is 19 years old and I really don't think that it matters if he gains a year of eligibility. We could use him.

I don't know what the definition of emergency basis is though.
When your team is 3-6-1, I consider that an emergency basis.

Even with Rachunek hurt, we still have 6 players to dress. There's no need to call anyone up. But Oduya's icetime HAS to be diminished and roles need to be defined. Vishnevski, Mottau and Brookbank can all handle the 23 minutes Oduya's getting. Plug one of those guy's in for Oduya and demote him.

At $3.5mm a year, we're stuck with Martin as our PP "quarterback". Greene's partner should be Mottau so they can work the point on the second PP unit. Oduya could be a good D-man on that 3rd pairing and limited to 13 to 16 minutes a game of 5 on 5 play, doing less damage because he's out there less.

Martin - Vishnevski (Vish sits on PP for Elias) - 23 to 25 minutes
Greene - Mottau (Natural #2 PP pairing) - 21 to 23 minutes
Brookbank/Oduya/Rachunek - 12 to 16 minutes

It's mind-boggling how they treat Oduya like he's some bonified #2 NHL D-man. Oduya ($600k) getting 23 minutes a game just doesn't make sense. Someone else should be playing those minutes. You guys will all like him again once he's assigned to the role he's supposed to play. The #1 pairing is NOT the role for him. Brookbank($500k) and Mottau($475k) probably have 2-way contracts, so no matter how well they play, you'll see them both get the shaft over Rachunek ($1.4 million) and Vishnevski ($1.4 million).

Das Uber
10-28-2007, 03:24 PM
I think it's time to trade for a solid d-man. I don't think Oduya sucks, but he just isn't a first pairing d-man. I've been waiting for Lou to sign/trade for a legit #1 d-man since the two Scotts left. Over the last couple of seasons we've been forcing above average/mediocre d-men to play positions they're simply incapable of playing...and it's not their fault. I never thought Rafalski was a true #1, but atleast he got the job done for the most part. But now we've taken a major step back with a top pairing of Martin/Oduya and it's simply unacceptable. With Jamie hopefully coming back in a couple of weeks, I say we pack up Gionta and ship him off for a top pairing defenceman. I'd hate to see Gio go, but right now our D is on life support and I think he's the only player besides the untouchables that can get us something in return. We need a d-man who is can log big minutes, can keep the crease clear, and HAS A SHOT. I know Phaneuf and Bieksa are out of the question, but someone like Eric Brewer might be more realistic.

Gunnar Stahl 30
10-28-2007, 03:46 PM
yea replacing Rafalski with Rachunek was a great move, as a Rangers fan, Im shocked u guys signed that bum Rachoknek. He is garbage.

we didnt replace rafalski with rachunek

BenedictGomez
10-28-2007, 06:23 PM
I am not an Oduya hater i just feel he might need to sit a couple games.

So do I. About 72 games to be exact.

Overtime98
10-28-2007, 06:47 PM
Not so fast.......

haha



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None Shall Pass
10-28-2007, 10:35 PM
Bergfors isn't an improvement.

devsfan8
10-28-2007, 10:42 PM
Bergfors isn't an improvement.

It certainly will not hurt the team.

In the opener this season against Tampa he had a great game. He shot the puck accurately on net and skated hard.

I would welcome a Bergfors call up. And Lou kinda made it sound as if he would be back anyway as he had stated he is being sent down for a conditioning stint to get some games in. Bergfors is more suited to play in the NHL then the AHL.

Das Uber
10-28-2007, 10:45 PM
Bergfors is more suited to play in the NHL then the AHL.


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TaiMaiShu
10-29-2007, 12:43 AM
Que?

Pourquoi?

OCD
10-29-2007, 12:48 AM
i agree they should give FRASER a shot.

JerryGigantic
10-29-2007, 02:53 AM
I am not an Oduya hater i just feel he might need to sit a couple games.

So do I. About 72 games to be exact.

Amen to that.

i agree they should give FRASER a shot.

I'm afraid Fraser falls into the "too slow for the Sutter system" category. You know, the system that is dead last in the NHL on the PK and is stinking up the joint night after night.

So much for "the next Colin White". Thanks, Brent!

Jason MacIsaac
10-29-2007, 08:36 AM
Amen to that.



I'm afraid Fraser falls into the "too slow for the Sutter system" category. You know, the system that is dead last in the NHL on the PK and is stinking up the joint night after night.

So much for "the next Colin White". Thanks, Brent!
Fraser is pretty mobile for a big guy. Sutter was trying to be nice in saying Matvichuk....you had a horrible camp and have regressed.

Gunnar Stahl 30
10-29-2007, 03:00 PM
Fraser is pretty mobile for a big guy. Sutter was trying to be nice in saying Matvichuk....you had a horrible camp and have regressed.

completely agree. if he would have said what he actually thoguht, he would have even less trade value than he does now. fraser is not slow btw

bense27
10-29-2007, 04:51 PM
Bergfors should definitely be up with the big boys.

BenIgnorant
10-29-2007, 05:01 PM
Just to add a 3rd opinion, Fraser is not slow. He's not Niedermayer, but he's a solid skater. He has very, very little skill as far as I know. I don't care how many points he has in 5 games this season in Lowell.

And maybe Bergfors deserves a shot, maybe he doesn't I'm comfortable leaving that decision to the organization, he didn't wow me in .5 game against tampa and preseason.

Can't wait for Langenbrunner to come back.

JerryGigantic
10-29-2007, 05:10 PM
Fraser was not in the mix during preseason, and he is not on Sutter's radar now. For whatever reason, he went from top call-up option to non-entity in the new "system".

BenIgnorant
10-29-2007, 05:33 PM
I don't think he was really the top call-up option last year. I think it was really more of a salary cap/waivers consideration. Alex Brooks was the main injury call-up last year, then Andy Greene once there was salary cap space. Based on people's observations of the games last year Malmivaara was probably the better player for Lowell, along with Mottau when healthy and obviously McGillis (salary cap/new nhl ineffectiveness). Tomas Harant had a dreadful preseason, but may have been ahead of Fraser if not for cap problems.

I'm not saying Fraser won't be a good 3rd or even 2nd pairing dman down the road. I believe the plan (per Conte, or maybe just consensus opinions) all along for Fraser was to let him develop in Lowell for a couple seasons. So no reason to panic.

JerryGigantic
10-29-2007, 05:55 PM
I don't think he was really the top call-up option last year. I think it was really more of a salary cap/waivers consideration. Alex Brooks was the main injury call-up last year, then Andy Greene once there was salary cap space. Based on people's observations of the games last year Malmivaara was probably the better player for Lowell, along with Mottau when healthy and obviously McGillis (salary cap/new nhl ineffectiveness). Tomas Harant had a dreadful preseason, but may have been ahead of Fraser if not for cap problems.

I'm not saying Fraser won't be a good 3rd or even 2nd pairing dman down the road. I believe the plan (per Conte, or maybe just consensus opinions) all along for Fraser was to let him develop in Lowell for a couple seasons. So no reason to panic.

D men, especially "stay at home" guys, take the longest to develop, so this is no surprise to me.

But most Devils pre-season depth charts and prospect polls had Fraser as "NHL ready", but now he seems a long way off of this roster, despite our god awful D at present.