Cam Janssen

Captain Crunch28
10-03-2007, 10:56 PM
How is Cam Janssen's injury coming along? How much longer until he's back in the lineup?

The Omen*
10-03-2007, 11:24 PM
Surgery out till Dec - Jan

Classic Devil
10-03-2007, 11:25 PM
I doubt very much he'll have a roster spot when he's healthy, unless his offensive skills have really grown.

None Shall Pass
10-04-2007, 01:02 AM
Cam is fun to watch. I hope he comes back soon. He has tons of heart.

Pizza Rules
10-07-2007, 07:47 PM
I doubt very much he'll have a roster spot when he's healthy, unless his offensive skills have really grown.

Hahaha!

newfish
10-07-2007, 07:54 PM
Cam is done!! He has plenty of heart but if he cant produce on the 4th line, he will not play. I think Sutter wants 4 lines that have a chance to score, and until Cam can shoot and score hes not playing. Plus I think if he were to play, he would get in a fight, and **** up his shoulder again. Sorry Cam but your done.

feerlessleadr
10-07-2007, 08:03 PM
i think that cam will only play when we are playing teams that can rough us up...and even then i do not think he will get a regular shift

DevilsFan38
10-07-2007, 08:05 PM
For an update, they mentioned on the broadcast yesterday that Janssen had surgery on Thursday and that it was successful. They did not, however, give a timetable for his return, but I'm sure we're talking about months.

feerlessleadr
10-07-2007, 08:11 PM
can we make an official white/langenbrunner/janssen injury update thread?

fortheloveof666
10-07-2007, 09:10 PM
I think it's kinda sad to count Cam out once he's healthy. I think Sutter will undoubtedly play him. Maybe not every game, but also not as little as just against bigger, rougher teams, or rivals.

Truth is, with as little as he's played over the years...how do we know he's not capable of taking on more minutes? Sure maybe he won't score a goal but that doesn't mean he can't be effective in other ways. Cam's big hits are important and right now no one can even hold light (sorry vitali) to the power behind Cam's shots...

Cam needs some discipline in his checks because he tends to just throw them wildly at anyone he sees...if Sutter could get him to tone it down and focus it more in the right areas at the right timing Cam could be WAY more effective.

I still believe he's an important part of our team and I certainly don't think Asham makes up for Cam at all.

Edit: Why not shift him on a top line when a matchup is working too well? Keep the skilled guys out there (on defense as well) and let Cam be the third man in to bang up the opposition and take them off their game. I understand why someone would call that stupid but I think that would be extremely effective.

pepe22
10-08-2007, 01:19 AM
I think it's kinda sad to count Cam out once he's healthy. I think Sutter will undoubtedly play him. Maybe not every game, but also not as little as just against bigger, rougher teams, or rivals.

Truth is, with as little as he's played over the years...how do we know he's not capable of taking on more minutes? Sure maybe he won't score a goal but that doesn't mean he can't be effective in other ways. Cam's big hits are important and right now no one can even hold light (sorry vitali) to the power behind Cam's shots...

Cam needs some discipline in his checks because he tends to just throw them wildly at anyone he sees...if Sutter could get him to tone it down and focus it more in the right areas at the right timing Cam could be WAY more effective.

I still believe he's an important part of our team and I certainly don't think Asham makes up for Cam at all.

Edit: Why not shift him on a top line when a matchup is working too well? Keep the skilled guys out there (on defense as well) and let Cam be the third man in to bang up the opposition and take them off their game. I understand why someone would call that stupid but I think that would be extremely effective.

More stupid than effective. Sorry. You can do that with a guy like Avery, because he at least possesses some talent and knowledge of the game. All Cam does is hit and fight, a career AHL'er. He needs to produce something, anything just to have a spot let alone play on the top line.

mayoradamwest*
10-08-2007, 01:21 AM
More stupid than effective. Sorry. You can do that with a guy like Avery, because he at least possesses some talent and knowledge of the game. All Cam does is hit and fight, a career AHL'er. He needs to produce something, anything just to have a spot let alone play on the top line.
I watched Janssen play in Windsor and then Guelph; the possibility of offense is ......:shakehead:shakehead:shakehead
He can fight amazingly well and he can skate full out into anyone, but beyond that he's never going to do much else.

The Mad Crapper
10-08-2007, 08:37 AM
For a Devils Board, there sure are a lot of Cam bashers on this site. Meanwhile, this guy is worth more to this team than any of you folks realize. Especially to a coach like Sutter.

Sutter likes players who give 100% effort day in & day out. A guy who will finish his checks & someone who draws more penalties than he takes. (Look at Cam's stats for last year. He was excellent at drawing penalities)

Cam plays an exciting, smash face hockey & has the potential to score goals if/when put into the right situation. Cam has more of role to this team than Mike Rupp. (No offense to big Mike)

Plus, when Cam gets back...he'll be main enforcer, handling all of the light heavyweights & middleweights, while Brookbank will handle the bigger slugs of the league.

And while both: Clarkson & Asham are both exceptional fighters, their role is to be gritty & aggravate our opponents. Although they can fight, both Lou & Sutter would rather leave the fisticuffs to Cam & Sheldon, not David & Aaron.

We wouldn't want another Grant Marshall incident again & not have either one of these two for the playoffs!

Mr Bojanglez
10-08-2007, 09:10 AM
And while both: Clarkson & Asham are both exceptional fighters, their role is to be gritty & aggravate our opponents. Although they can fight, both Lou & Sutter would rather leave the fisticuffs to Cam & Sheldon, not David & Aaron.

This is true, but Asham effectively replaces Cam as an upgrade. Asham and Janssen are equal in fighting terms, and Asham can actually play. And since hes predominately 4th liner, with 3rd line time... it's not as big a deal if he misses shifts.

The only thing I feel Cam did better was hit, which I will miss. And I like the guy, I still don't believe the kaberle hit was that bad (not being a homer), and he does bring energy to the table. But he has been replaced, unless he can pull something out of his bag of tricks

The Mad Crapper
10-08-2007, 10:12 AM
Its funny to see the same hate for Cam as we did for Mike Danton when he was here.

Meanwhile, they were both the most fun players we had to watch EVER on this team! Not for their skill or finesse, but because when they were both on the ice you knew something would happen to the other team. Both gave 100% each & every game & when they did, people loved them. When they got hurt, or did something controversial, the haters came out with all of these options of who could easily replace them or how worthless they were to the Devils.

However, these guys produced a certain type of anticipation that lead to you sitting on the edge of your seat because you knew something exciting was going to happen. Whether it was a big hit, aggravating someone, a decent scrap or a surprise goal, it all was exciting.

MoonDragn
10-08-2007, 11:31 AM
However, these guys produced a certain type of anticipation that lead to you sitting on the edge of your seat because you knew something exciting was going to happen. Whether it was a big hit, aggravating someone, a decent scrap or a surprise goal, it all was exciting.

Funny, all I feel is disgust when he is on the ice knowing that we could have somebody else better playing for us.

I personally don't think Forwards make good enforcers. I rather have someone like Brookbank who's on D. Then at least they can punish the opposing forwards and make them think twice about coming into our zone.

None Shall Pass
10-08-2007, 05:49 PM
Its funny to see the same hate for Cam as we did for Mike Danton when he was here.

Meanwhile, they were both the most fun players we had to watch EVER on this team! Not for their skill or finesse, but because when they were both on the ice you knew something would happen to the other team. Both gave 100% each & every game & when they did, people loved them. When they got hurt, or did something controversial, the haters came out with all of these options of who could easily replace them or how worthless they were to the Devils.

However, these guys produced a certain type of anticipation that lead to you sitting on the edge of your seat because you knew something exciting was going to happen. Whether it was a big hit, aggravating someone, a decent scrap or a surprise goal, it all was exciting.

I agree. (+1)

Janssen25
10-09-2007, 09:39 AM
Funny, all I feel is disgust when he is on the ice knowing that we could have somebody else better playing for us.

I personally don't think Forwards make good enforcers. I rather have someone like Brookbank who's on D. Then at least they can punish the opposing forwards and make them think twice about coming into our zone.

Yeah that makes sense, have a D-man as ur enforcer so everytime he fights ur stuck rotating 5 men on the back line. You're an idiot.

Obviously you don't really undertstand the concept of having role players. Cam's role on the team was to enforce and throw his weight around as much as possible and did a great job doing so. The NHL needs more guys like him and less fans like you.

Jonathan.
10-09-2007, 09:47 AM
Yeah that makes sense, have a D-man as ur enforcer so everytime he fights ur stuck rotating 5 men on the back line. You're an idiot.

Obviously you don't really undertstand the concept of having role players. Cam's role on the team was to enforce and throw his weight around as much as possible and did a great job doing so. The NHL needs more guys like him and less fans like you.

If you carry a defenseman as your enforcer, generally you carry 7 defenseman. That defenseman usually can play forward as well on the 4th line.

You need to learn a bit more about how teams use enforcers, it looks like.

MoonDragn
10-09-2007, 11:53 AM
Yeah that makes sense, have a D-man as ur enforcer so everytime he fights ur stuck rotating 5 men on the back line. You're an idiot.

Obviously you don't really undertstand the concept of having role players. Cam's role on the team was to enforce and throw his weight around as much as possible and did a great job doing so. The NHL needs more guys like him and less fans like you.

Obviously you're the idiot. Why have only 6 defensemen? We need a backup anyway why not make him the enforcer? You simply rotate the other 6 when he fights.

This gives you the enforcing you need and also the grit in your defensemen. Your special roles senario sounds great on paper, but is a waste in reality.
Face it Cam sucks. Period. Even as a enforcer, he doesn't scare anyone. Other team players still walk all over us with him enforcing. Gone are the days with Scott Stevens who make them fear to come into our zone. We need those days back.

JJL185
10-09-2007, 12:36 PM
Generally your enforcers are forwards. The better ones today like Laraque, Boogard, Brashear are all forwards. They need to be on the ice from time to time to be effective and you hope you don't get scored on. If your enforcer is a defenseman you run an even bigger risk of being scored upon when he is out there in that he usually is not one of your better players. And if he is one of your better players you really don't want him spending alot of time in the box. Usually most of the better junior enforcers that are defensemen are converted to forwards for just this reason. Stephen Peat, who was touted as the next Bob Probert, was converted to forward just so he could get on the ice. Scott Stevens was not what I would consider an enforcer, at least during his time in New Jersey. A one man wrecking crew yes, but not an enforcer. He was too important to have spending alot of time in the box.