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McDonald19 09-21-2007, 11:46 PM The Pirates will have two preseason games, one at home and one on the road. Both games will be against division rival, Manchester Monarchs (Los Angeles Kings). The Pirates first preseason game will take place on Saturday, September 29th at 7:00 p.m. at the Cumberland County Civic Center. The Pirates second and final preseason game will take place on Sunday, September 30th at the Notre Dame Arena in Berlin, NH for a 3:00 p.m. face-off against the Monarchs.
http://www.portlandpirates.com/newsarticle.asp?Id=1321
wildcat48 09-22-2007, 01:24 AM Pirates show off new apparel
Portland, ME - You either love’em or hate’em (Sort of like the Boston Red Sox eh?), but in the end you have to just live with’em. No, I’m not talking about your spouse or significant other in your life, but the new RBK Edge jersey.
The Portland Pirates unveiled their jersey’s today in front of an eager few who made the preseason trip to the Cumberland County Civic Center to see Eric Weinrich and family model off the new threads in hopes of slapping down a few bucks in being one of the first to own a new jersey.
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wildcat48 09-25-2007, 12:50 PM The Portland Pirates announced today that training camp will open on Wednesday, September 26th from 2pm to 4pm at the Cumberland County Civic Center in Portland, ME.
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Portland Pirates Training Camp Roster:
Fowards:
Matt Auffrey
Bobby Bolt
Tyler Bouck
Matt Christie
Ken Davis
Ryan Dingle
Stephen Dixon
Andrew Ebbett
Simon Ferguson
Mike Hoffman
Shane Hynes
Matt Keith
Jason King
Dan LaCouture
Drew Miller
Igor Pohanka
Mike Prpich
Jeremy Schendeling
James Unger
Clay Wilson
Defensemen:
Joe Callahan
Sergi Durdin
Brett Festerling
Brandan Mikkelson
Thomas Morrow
Aaron Rome
Brian Salcido
Adrian Veideman
Eric Weinrich
Goaltenders:
Bobby Goepfert
JP Levasseur
Kevin Forbes 09-25-2007, 01:02 PM The return of Igor Pohanka!
Ducksforcup 09-25-2007, 10:01 PM Surprised not to see Andy Schneider on there.
Otherwise, looking good. :)
Here are some stats from the try-out players. Stats from hockeydb.com....great resource.
Forwards
Mike Prpich (http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid%5B%5D=71419)
Jeremy Schenderling (http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid=62491)
James Unger (http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid=67747)
Igor Pohanka (http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid%5B%5D=55416) (Welcome back)!
Ken Davis (http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid%5B%5D=31125)
Tyler Bouck (http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid=28812) (From Duck's training camp).
Defense
Sergei Durdin (http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid=81380) (From Lativa)
Thomas Morrow (http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid=69795)
Adrian Veideman (http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid=77658) (From the rookie camp).
Andy Schneider (http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid%5B%5D=56829) (From the rookie camp too).
Player whose rights are owned by the Ducks, but is not signed.
Matt Auffrey
Aeryn 09-25-2007, 10:04 PM tomorrow?!
What were his parents thinking? :biglaugh:
Kevin Forbes 09-25-2007, 10:56 PM Players whose rights are owned by the Ducks, but are not signed.
Matt Auffrey and Matt Christie
While in Auffrey's case this is correct, I believe that for all intents and purposes, Christie's rights at the NHL level are unsigned. Unlike Auffrey, his NCAA class has graduated and he was not signed by the August 15th deadline. He does however have an AHL deal with Portland.
wildcat48 09-27-2007, 10:19 PM Pirates prepare for weekend battle
Portland, ME - The Pirates held a late afternoon scrimmage as part of their two-a-day practice schedule in preparation for the weekend’s exhibition schedule.
It was mostly a chance for Pirates Head Coach Kevin Dineen to get read on several players and evaluate who will play in the preseason games this weekend.
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Bagman 09-28-2007, 01:13 AM No Lacouture?I was hoping he would stick,Pirates lacking some some snarl this year.
wildcat48 09-28-2007, 03:15 AM Rookie's injury causing problems in goal for Pirates
Bobby Goepfert hasn't been able to participate in training camp, creating a goaltending shortage.
During the first two days of the Portland Pirates' training camp, rookie goalie Bobby Goepfert has been on the outside looking in.
While his new teammates were skating at the Cumberland County Civic Center, Goepfert has been in the training room riding a stationary bike.
A groin injury has kept Goepfert, a much-heralded collegiate goalie, from playing.
PPH - 09/27/07 (http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/story.php?id=136916&ac=PHspt)
wildcat48 09-28-2007, 03:16 AM Here's the other goalie they are bring in.
Dominic Vicari (http://http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid=67678)
Phil Laugher 09-29-2007, 11:35 PM 5-2 win over Manchester. Manchester controlled the first half of the game, but Portland rallied, with three powerplay markers and five consecutive goals. A pair from Ebbert and Wilson. Wilson had four points, and was very strong on the point handling the puck. Salcido had a very nice, poised game. Levasseur could not be faulted on either goal.
No Mikkelson in the line-up.
Bagman 09-30-2007, 04:37 PM How did Dingle and Veideman look?
wildcat48 09-30-2007, 09:15 PM 5-2 win over Manchester. Manchester controlled the first half of the game, but Portland rallied, with three powerplay markers and five consecutive goals. A pair from Ebbert and Wilson. Wilson had four points, and was very strong on the point handling the puck. Salcido had a very nice, poised game. Levasseur could not be faulted on either goal.
No Mikkelson in the line-up.
Were you at the game?
I agree with you on Wilson, he really found a new home as a forward. He's a smart player with the puck and has a nice shot.
Ebbett was pretty much as advertised.
As a team, I think they didn't look good. They just didn't have their timing and they made several mistakes defensively. Manchester used their speed to cycle the puck and Portland had a difficult time matching that intensity.
wildcat48 09-30-2007, 09:21 PM How did Dingle and Veideman look?
Dingle looked ok, he may not make the team. Same goes for Bobby Bolt. Both were on the bubble as of Friday.
Dingle played on a line with King and Ebbett for most of the game. He was moved to a line with Miller and Keith looked better.
Veideman looked ok....He won't make the team, but could be a call up for the Pirates if they need a defenseman.
wildcat48 09-30-2007, 09:22 PM Pirates lost today, 5-2 in Berlin, finished the preseason with a 1-1 record.
Berlin, NH- The Manchester Monarchs scored three unanswered goals in the third period to claim a 5-2 win over the Portland Pirates on Sunday afternoon at the Notre Dame Arena.
After a scoreless first period, the Monarchs opened the scoring on a power play at the 6:56 mark of the second period. Gabe Gauthier rotated the puck from the right wing boards back to Joe Piskula at the right point. From there, Piskula fed a cross-ice pass to Patrik Hersley at the left point, who quickly one-timed a slap shot pass J.P Levasseur.
Portland Pirates.com (http://www.portlandpirates.com/newsarticle.asp?Id=1333)
Bagman 10-01-2007, 01:16 AM Dingle looked ok, he may not make the team. Same goes for Bobby Bolt. Both were on the bubble as of Friday.
Dingle played on a line with King and Ebbett for most of the game. He was moved to a line with Miller and Keith looked better.
Veideman looked ok....He won't make the team, but could be a call up for the Pirates if they need a defenseman.
Thanks,did they both play tonite?Bunch of pims tonite,many scraps?
wildcat48 10-01-2007, 04:48 AM I don't believe so....I took the night off from hockey and spent it with the family.
Phil Laugher 10-01-2007, 11:53 AM Were you at the game?
I agree with you on Wilson, he really found a new home as a forward. He's a smart player with the puck and has a nice shot.
Ebbett was pretty much as advertised.
As a team, I think they didn't look good. They just didn't have their timing and they made several mistakes defensively. Manchester used their speed to cycle the puck and Portland had a difficult time matching that intensity.
Yup, I was there (sitting behind the penalty boxes). I was passing through on my way back from a week in Boston.
Thanks,did they both play tonite?Bunch of pims tonite,many scraps?
Just one, Hoffman v. Bagnall at the end of the first.
They got tied up along the boards after a couple of solid hits, each gave a little cross shot to the chops, the period ended, and they dropped the gloves. Hoffman caught Bagnall with a stiff shot early, dropping him to one knee, but Bagnall got back up. Then Hoffman gave three or four more heavy shots - the last an uppercut which sent Bagnall spinning away from Hoffman and the zebras jumped in. Bagnall didn't return.
Bagman 10-01-2007, 12:30 PM Thanks,I will be in Portlandfor this weekend's festivties.
wildcat48 10-01-2007, 02:01 PM Yup, I was there (sitting behind the penalty boxes). I was passing through on my way back from a week in Boston.
You should have come up to the press box, we had plenty of seating. It was only myself and the Press Hearld writer.
I hope you enjoyed yourself in Portland.
funshine720 10-01-2007, 04:41 PM You should have come up to the press box, we had plenty of seating. It was only myself and the Press Hearld writer.
I hope you enjoyed yourself in Portland.
I was there, not in the Press Box, but at the game. Loved every second of it. Was rather impressed with Matt Keith. He didn't make much of an impression on me last year. Did Saturday though.
wildcat48 10-01-2007, 05:00 PM Keith looks much more confident this year. I think he had a bit of the deer in the headlights look last season. A lot has to do with the trade to Anaheim and his relationship with Chicago. I think he felt shorted by the Blackhawks and he should have never been in Norfolk last year.
But, I agree he looks much better so far in practice and in the preseason. He needs to maintain that consistency this year. He's going to be look at as somebody who can score.
funshine720 10-01-2007, 06:27 PM You want to talk about deer in headlights.... I don't think Miller is very happy to be back in Portland. That was the worst playing I've ever seen him do. I saw the puck just slide right on by him three or four times. I was hoping to see the same old Drew out there, but nope... he was no where to be seen.
wildcat48 10-01-2007, 07:08 PM Yeah, he looked like he was trying to find his legs. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt because it's preseason.
CHRDANHUTCH 10-01-2007, 07:48 PM any word, Wildcat48, as to why the Pirates website/roster are listing LaCouture even though he's been suspended a la Scott Niedermayer, but why is there no number listed for Jason King, Isn't 0 an odd # for a C?:)
funshine720 10-01-2007, 10:06 PM any word, Wildcat48, as to why the Pirates website/roster are listing LaCouture even though he's been suspended a la Scott Niedermayer, but why is there no number listed for Jason King, Isn't 0 an odd # for a C?:)
I can tell you that Saturday night King was wearing number 5. I don't know why I remember that....
wildcat48 10-01-2007, 11:18 PM King will wear #5... They just hadn't fixed the site yet. LaCouture is currently sitting at home in Mass, waiting out his future. Spoke to McNab and Anaheim doesn't have plans to move him and he can't sign with a European team according to McNab because of the IIHF agreement. He could sign in Russia so we'll see.
wildcat48 10-02-2007, 02:26 AM Ducks assign goalie to Portland
Portland, ME - The Pirates are getting some relief in net. The Ducks announced today that they’ve assigned goaltender Gerald Coleman to the Portland Pirates, Anaheim’s primary development affiliate in the American Hockey League.
Anaheim needed to get below the 23-man roster limit before 2pm today as all 30 NHL teams needed to finalize their rosters, the NHL gave the Ducks and Kings permission to carry an extra player. Coleman was with the Ducks while they were in England for NHL Premiere, the league’s venture overseas.
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clasp 10-02-2007, 04:31 AM does anyone know whether igor pohanka dressed in either game?
wildcat48 10-02-2007, 02:04 PM I don't remember seeing him on Saturday.
wildcat48 10-02-2007, 07:33 PM The Ducks have signed Andy Schneider to a one-year AHL deal. He's done a very good job so far in Portland and Dineen's been impressed.
Also, Shane Hynes is out with a broken foot. No timetable for his return.
LaCouture is currently sitting at home in Mass, waiting out his future. Spoke to McNab and Anaheim doesn't have plans to move him and he can't sign with a European team according to McNab because of the IIHF agreement. He could sign in Russia so we'll see.
So LaCouture thinks he's too good for the AHL?
wildcat48 10-02-2007, 08:36 PM I guess so, I think he doesn't want the pay cut of playing at the AHL level when he could make more in Russia....We'll see what happens after the first month of the season.
wildcat48 10-02-2007, 09:16 PM Add Bobby Bolt to the list of walking wounded. Out with broken hand.
snarktacular 10-02-2007, 09:28 PM Schneider broken ankle
Hynes broken foot
Bolt broken hand.
Somebody feed this guys some milk.
CHRDANHUTCH 10-02-2007, 09:48 PM Interesting alumni note for you Pirates fans.
Portland fans will get to boo Ladislav Smid the way Edmonton fans boo Chris Pronger as the Oilers reassigned Smid to the Falcons in time for Friday night's opener in Portland.;)
wildcat48 10-02-2007, 09:53 PM Pirates roster set for opening weekend
Portland, ME - The Portland Pirates have finalized their roster for the 2007-08 season. With the season set to begin on Friday, October 5 against Springfield, The Pirates will have 25 players on the roster.
Instead of having players with defined roles, the Pirates will look for contributions from several players as they try to develop a team that is much more balance
“We need a lot of things to work well for us,” said Pirates’ Head Coach Kevin Dineen. “We need good goaltending, I think that’s one of the more important issues for us. We need our defense to get involved in the play and to be a part of our offensive group. We can’t have them move the puck once and they think they’re done. There’s a lot of guys [on the team] that have to play a big role and be stingy to play against and show some offensive upside.”
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Bagman 10-03-2007, 12:35 AM Pirates roster set for opening weekend
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Can they carry 25 throughout the year in AHL?
lux_interior 10-03-2007, 01:35 AM Interesting alumni note for you Pirates fans.
Portland fans will get to boo Ladislav Smid the way Edmonton fans boo Chris Pronger as the Oilers reassigned Smid to the Falcons in time for Friday night's opener in Portland.;)
Wow. That's a step backwards for Smid.
Ducksforcup 10-03-2007, 02:07 AM Wow. That's a step backwards for Smid.
Yeah, especially after spending the whole year with Edmonton last season. Odd.
On another note, I am very happy that Andy Schneider was signed to an AHL contract. I have heard only positive things about him and I think he will have a good year! :handclap:
Duckstudd269 10-03-2007, 02:49 AM Yeah, especially after spending the whole year with Edmonton last season. Odd.
On another note, I am very happy with Andy Schneider was signed to an AHL contract. I have heard only positive things about him and I think he will have a good year! :handclap:
I know, extremely odd. Based on the posts on the Oilers board, they don't seem to happy about it.
CHRDANHUTCH 10-03-2007, 12:10 PM I know, extremely odd. Based on the posts on the Oilers board, they don't seem to happy about it.
nor does their team message board agree w/ it either:)
wildcat48 10-03-2007, 12:21 PM Can they carry 25 throughout the year in AHL?
An AHL team can carry as many players as they wish. Their is no restriction to the roster size, but a team can only dress 19 players.
Bagman 10-03-2007, 01:15 PM Thanks,do you know the plan for Veideman?I thought I saw him on the roster last night.
funshine720 10-03-2007, 02:10 PM Is Goepfert no longer injured? I was estatic to see Coleman back. I was sort of hoping he would be the lead man out there in net.
I guess so, I think he doesn't want the pay cut of playing at the AHL level when he could make more in Russia....We'll see what happens after the first month of the season.
LOL, give him Konopka's phone number the next time you talk to him.
wildcat48 10-03-2007, 04:03 PM Thanks,do you know the plan for Veideman?I thought I saw him on the roster last night.
It was an error in the release. I don't know what will happen with him.
wildcat48 10-03-2007, 04:04 PM Is Goepfert no longer injured? I was estatic to see Coleman back. I was sort of hoping he would be the lead man out there in net.
He's still injured. He's skating on his own, but it could be sometime before he's healthy to see game action.
Rabid Husky 10-05-2007, 03:06 AM He's still injured. He's skating on his own, but it could be sometime before he's healthy to see game action.
Yeah, groin injuries are a *****. He was actually sent back to St. Cloud to work with the SCSU trainers and he still had a noticeable limp.
McDonald19 10-05-2007, 03:32 AM Segal has cleared waivers and is in Portland.
wildcat48 10-07-2007, 05:11 AM Moran back in the minors as Dixon give Pirates first win
Portland, ME - It’s funny how the world goes around in mysterious circles. Sitting in the press box prior to game time, I was looking over the Lowell Devils roster, when I noticed a familiar name on their player list. Former Duck and Pirate Ian Moran is skating with Lowell this season after signing a contract with New Jersey over the summer. He’s expected to provide a veteran presence to a team that is full of youngsters, much like Pirates’ defenseman Eric Weinrich, it’s just too bad he didn’t want to take advantage of that same opportunity in Portland.
For those who may need a quick refresher on Moran, he signed with Anaheim last season, but the strong play of several other players put him in a position much like Travis Green and Stan Chistov where playing time was extremely limited. He came to Portland on a conditioning stint and played well before going back to Anaheim for a few days and being placed on waivers, ultimately being assigned to the Pirates.
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Stanley Cup filled with luck as Pirates get their first win
Civic Center fans get to admire Anaheim's Stanley Cup, then watch the Pirates beat the Devils.
The Portland Pirates celebrated a rare visit by the Stanley Cup by rallying to their first victory of the season Saturday night.
Scoring all their goals in the third period, the Pirates defeated the Lowell Devils 4-1 before a crowd of 4,458 at the Cumberland County Civic Center.
"With the Cup, you sometimes get your (general manager at the game), and the players recognized that," Portland Pirates Coach Kevin Dineen said, "They worked their tails off tonight."
Anaheim General Manager Brian Burke, an original Maine Mariner, was at the game, but the big draw was the Stanley Cup on display in Maine for the first time since February 2003.
MST - 10/07/07 (http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/story.php?id=139100&ac=PHspt)
Duckstudd269 10-08-2007, 02:16 AM Wildcat, have you heard any interviews with B.Ryan about being sent down? I'm hoping it will motivate him to step up and dominate like Getz and Perry did when they were sent down.
wildcat48 10-08-2007, 03:43 AM I talked to him after game on Saturday and he's fine with being sent down, he sort of expected it. It's weird to say that, but he said he just had this feeling when they came back he was going to Portland, but he said he had a taste of the NHL and he knows what he needs to work on in order to get back to the NHL.
Duckstudd269 10-08-2007, 10:59 PM I talked to him after game on Saturday and he's fine with being sent down, he sort of expected it. It's weird to say that, but he said he just had this feeling when they came back he was going to Portland, but he said he had a taste of the NHL and he knows what he needs to work on in order to get back to the NHL.
thanks for the info, how he's lookin in Portland so far?
wildcat48 10-09-2007, 12:42 AM Typical, he stood around admired the play. He'd glide to the front of the net or tried to be cute with the puck. He didn't have a single shot on net.
I'm thinkin he just arrived in Portland and didn't get a chance to find his legs. We'll see how he does this weekend.
wildcat48 10-09-2007, 08:22 PM Expect roster moves in the near future
It would appear that the panic levels have risen in the O.C. as the defending Stanley Cup Champions are set for their home opener on Wednesday against Boston. The Anaheim Ducks are currently mired in a 1-3-1 record, losing their last three games since returning from England.
Since they’ve retuned, Anaheim has sent Bobby Ryan back to Portland because he wasn’t able to produce offensively and his play was less than satisfactory to Ducks’ Head Coach Randy Carlyle. The Ducks also recalled Jason King, who score two goals in the season opener for the Pirates on Friday night and Drew Miller, who impressed many during training camp, but was sent down as a result of a numbers game.
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snarktacular 10-09-2007, 08:35 PM Expect roster moves in the near future
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"THE" OC? Bleh. Does anyone actually use the word "the", other than the show? I know I sure don't.
How does Portland look? Obviously there's some uncertainty with the roster, but what are the chances the team will do well (make the playoffs, go a round or two)? What has been the general consensus on where Portland will finish in the various preseason polls?
Burke seems to value a winning organization throughout, so it'd be good if Portland does well and it gives the kids a winning atmosphere.
wildcat48 10-09-2007, 08:47 PM HAHA....We still call it "the OC" in Maine....In fact I was talking with another writer in Maine about going to "the OC"....LOL
As for the Pirates, they looked ok for their first weekend. It's still earlier, but as you said the roster is in flux. Once it settles, it will be a real test of what they have.
I have them missing the playoffs finishing 5th or 6th, missing the playoffs. But, that could change if Hiller is for a while and or the players here are here for a while.
Depending on who you read....It's varied from making the playoffs with the 3rd seed to finishing were I have them near the back of the pack.
Ducksforcup 10-09-2007, 09:04 PM It is called "the OC" in Europe too. :D Funny that it is called that everywhere BUT California.
CHRDANHUTCH 10-10-2007, 05:52 PM It's now been confirmed that Pirates G Gerald Coleman has developed concussion-like symptoms and will be temporarily sidelined. G Mike McKenna has been signed to replace him short-term.
wildcat48 10-10-2007, 06:23 PM Portland, ME -The Portland Pirates have brought in goaltender Mike McKenna from the Las Vegas Wranglers of the ECHL to replace an injured Gerald Coleman.
Coleman suffered concussion-like symptoms (headaches and dizziness) after being involved in a collision during the season-opening game against the Springfield Falcons.
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Here's the link to the confirmation.
Hutch, next time provide a link instead of acting like you heard the information on a first hand basis.
MOENing 10-10-2007, 06:28 PM Read More>>>> (http://mvn.com/ahl-pirates/2007/10/10/pirates-bring-in-new-goaltender/)
Here's the link to the confirmation.
Hutch, next time provide a link instead of acting like you heard the information on a first hand basis.
Did anyone see this collision?
wildcat48 10-10-2007, 08:08 PM yeah, it happened in the first period. He was trying to freeze the puck and he was just run over.
funshine720 10-10-2007, 08:13 PM His mask got knocked off. It took him a good 10 seconds to get up off his knees. He took a drink and went back into play.
CHRDANHUTCH 10-10-2007, 09:58 PM Read More>>>> (http://mvn.com/ahl-pirates/2007/10/10/pirates-bring-in-new-goaltender/)
Here's the link to the confirmation.
Hutch, next time provide a link instead of acting like you heard the information on a first hand basis.
Who made you the all knowing jerk, Wildcat, I absolutely hate when you act all high & mighty like you know everything there is to know and frankly another thing STOP PLUGGING THAT GOD AWFUL MVN blog, it's pretty useless:rant:
hockeydemon05 10-10-2007, 10:07 PM Who made you the all knowing jerk, Wildcat, I absolutely hate when you act all high & mighty like you know everything there is to know and frankly another thing STOP PLUGGING THAT GOD AWFUL MVN blog, it's pretty useless:rant:
Dude, no need to get all pissed about it.
Just say where you get your Info from, if its yours then thats fine, but cite your sources. I've had that banged into my head since 1st grade.
CHRDANHUTCH 10-10-2007, 10:44 PM Dude, no need to get all pissed about it.
Just say where you get your Info from, if its yours then thats fine, but cite your sources. I've had that banged into my head since 1st grade.
I don't write for anyone, but frankly Wildcat is not the only source of information either, just trying to lighten his workload a little and he gets bent out of shape over it:cry:
wildcat48 10-10-2007, 10:46 PM Who made you the all knowing jerk, Wildcat, I absolutely hate when you act all high & mighty like you know everything there is to know and frankly another thing STOP PLUGGING THAT GOD AWFUL MVN blog, it's pretty useless:rant:
It was pretty useful to find out Coleman was hurt and McKenna was signed by Portland....:sarcasm:
I wasn't being a jerk, but you posted the information as if you had been there in person to recieve the information and you weren't.
Sorry, if the truth hurts.
wildcat48 10-12-2007, 05:49 AM Portland, ME – The roster shuffle continues in Portland as Matt Christie was assigned to the Pirates’ ECHL affiliate in Augusta, GA.
Christie, scratched for the first two games of the season, played in five games for the Pirates last season, scoring two goals.
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Hockey Duckie 10-14-2007, 03:33 PM It was pretty useful to find out Coleman was hurt and McKenna was signed by Portland.
I wasn't being a jerk, but you posted the information as if you had been there in person to recieve the information and you weren't.
Sorry, if the truth hurts.
Hey, Hutch, I don't think Wildcat was being a jerk. It's only correct to cite the source you're reporting from to give credit to that reporter. If a link is possible, then put it down. If not, then say the source like "i heard this on the radio" or "reported on such-a-such tv show".
I had to learn about citing sources on here years ago by mods.
wildcat48 10-15-2007, 02:33 AM Pirates' long trip sabotaged by defense
Portland's early-season jaunt to Massachusetts results in three straight losses, the last at Lowell.
LOWELL, Mass. — The Portland Pirates intended to establish a team identity during a three-game trip to Massachusetts over the weekend.
They're still looking for it.
The Lowell Devils handed the Pirates their third road loss in three days, winning 4-1 Sunday at Tsongas Arena.
"We monitor our scoring chances and we're creating things offensively," Portland Coach Kevin Dineen said. "It's the other side of the puck."
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CHRDANHUTCH 10-16-2007, 03:11 PM Hey, Hutch, I don't think Wildcat was being a jerk. It's only correct to cite the source you're reporting from to give credit to that reporter. If a link is possible, then put it down. If not, then say the source like "i heard this on the radio" or "reported on such-a-such tv show".
I had to learn about citing sources on here years ago by mods.
Fine, I'm getting so tired of a) telling me how to post b) acting like Wildcat is the only credible source there is to know so why should anyone even bother to post anymore since he can't be gracious enough to be cordial to ppl:cry:
hockeydemon05 10-16-2007, 10:11 PM Fine, I'm getting so tired of a) telling me how to post b) acting like Wildcat is the only credible source there is to know so why should anyone even bother to post anymore since he can't be gracious enough to be cordial to ppl:cry:
No one is acting like Wildcat is the only credible source out there, people may have more respect for him due to the nature of his posts.
CHRDANHUTCH 10-16-2007, 11:41 PM any chance Matt Christie is recalled due to to the Wirtanen recall and the Carter injury, Wildcat?
wildcat48 10-17-2007, 01:00 AM I won't know til tomorrow. Looking at the roster I would say no, but again it depends on how Carter is feeling.
The Pirates can just dress 11 and 6 so they still have a healthy scratch without Christie.
Johnny Danger 10-18-2007, 10:39 AM how is salcido doing so far?
wildcat48 10-18-2007, 04:38 PM how is salcido doing so far?
Ok so far, it still early to really judge who's doing what.
Portland's defensive coverage hasn't been good overall, but Salcido's played well. He's one of the better defenseman on the team.
CHRDANHUTCH 10-20-2007, 03:26 PM just a reminder here
Greg Glynn is doing double duty tonight as it is the 1st of 8 Saturday home games to be broadcast over Time Warner Cable's local origination channels 22(Portland) & 9 (Augusta).
wildcat48 10-24-2007, 07:17 PM Portland, ME - With the apparent injuries to Ryan Getzlaf and Rob Niedermayer, the Anaheim Ducks have recalled Petteri Wirtanen and Jason King from the Portland Pirates.
Wirtanen just assigned to Portland on Sunday, scored his first NHL goal against the Nashville Predators in a 3-1 win on Oct. 17.
Read More>>> (http://mvn.com/ahl-pirates/)
Christie has been recalled and Levasseur was assigned to Augusta.
torero 10-29-2007, 07:22 PM Hi ! How is Hiller doing ??
Pwnasaurus 10-29-2007, 08:45 PM Hi ! How is Hiller doing ??
Oh hi there
wildcat48 10-29-2007, 11:43 PM He's doing ok.
He has a record of 1-0-1 after playing against Worcester and Manchester. Both games went to OT.
Duckstudd269 10-30-2007, 01:00 AM He's doing ok.
He has a record of 1-0-1 after playing against Worcester and Manchester. Both games went to OT.
How about Ryan? Who is impressing and who is dissapointing?
Ducksforcup 10-30-2007, 02:29 AM Ebbett has been doing really well. (8 pts in 7 games). WC really likes him from what I have read. :)
wildcat48 10-30-2007, 02:42 AM "Ebbett Working Hard for the Pirates" - Journal Tribune, 10-27-07
Page 1>>> (http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/8507/ebbettstory1027071yh0.jpg)
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GWF82 10-30-2007, 01:31 PM Is there a reason they still have Mike McKenna there if he's not going to play? Or is the website just not up-to-date and he has been sent back to Las vegas?
wildcat48 10-30-2007, 02:33 PM McKenna is still in Portland. Anaheim signed him to an AHL contract so I'm not sure what the plans are with McKenna and the goaltending situation. I actually think they may keep him because I don't think they feel they're going to have Hiller for a long time and they want him and Coleman to keep getting work.
Kevin Forbes 10-30-2007, 04:05 PM Chris,
Any time table on Goepfert?
wildcat48 10-30-2007, 07:11 PM Chris,
Any time table on Goepfert?
No timetable on Goepfert.
He's been sent home and he's not expected to be the with Pirates this season. Which is why they signed McKenna.
They were mad at him with how he came into camp. He never said anything about the injury and when he arrived in Portland, it was sprung on them. What makes it worse was it went back to May.
I don't expect to hear too much from this season.
GWF82 10-30-2007, 09:03 PM McKenna is still in Portland. Anaheim signed him to an AHL contract so I'm not sure what the plans are with McKenna and the goaltending situation. I actually think they may keep him because I don't think they feel they're going to have Hiller for a long time and they want him and Coleman to keep getting work.
Did McKenna sign a PTO contract or an actual AHL contract? He's a buddy of mine, but its hard to find info as much as he's moved around the last two years. He dominated the E last season and I do hope someone gives him a chance. He's a very good goalie.
190Octane 10-30-2007, 09:49 PM McKenna is still in Portland. Anaheim signed him to an AHL contract so I'm not sure what the plans are with McKenna and the goaltending situation. I actually think they may keep him because I don't think they feel they're going to have Hiller for a long time and they want him and Coleman to keep getting work.
Hiller is going to leave or Anaheim is moving Bryzgalov?
wildcat48 10-30-2007, 09:52 PM The Anaheim Ducks signed him to a one-year AHL SPC (Standard Players Contract). Dineen really likes this kid and if he keeps playing well he'll be sticking around.
Duckstudd269 10-30-2007, 10:06 PM The Anaheim Ducks signed him to a one-year AHL SPC (Standard Players Contract). Dineen really likes this kid and if he keeps playing well he'll be sticking around.
How's B.Ryan looking?
Randall Graves* 10-31-2007, 06:08 AM Don't know how he looks but Bobby has a nice point streak going right now..
wildcat48 10-31-2007, 03:08 PM How's B.Ryan looking?
Check out the King/Wirtanen Thread on Ryan....
GWF82 10-31-2007, 09:59 PM The Anaheim Ducks signed him to a one-year AHL SPC (Standard Players Contract). Dineen really likes this kid and if he keeps playing well he'll be sticking around.
Thanks for the info. McKenna is beyond solid and his numbers this time around in the AHL seem to show that if he actually sticks around he can be solid there as well. To me he's more solid in net than Coleman, but maybe thats the friend in me and the Lightning fan as well coming out :)
Ps - I'm a closet Ducks fan haha
brianscot 11-01-2007, 09:49 AM How's B.Ryan looking?
The few times this season that I've seen Ryan he still looks like a 220 pound player with a 170 pounder's sensibilities.
Great vision and hockey sense, and nobody expects him to morph into Cam Neely or Rick Tocchet, but he definitely still needs more vinegar in his game.
The number two pick in the draft with his skill set should dominate at the AHL level, not just score a point per game.
Thankfully, its a process.
Good test for the Pirates this weekend with once beaten Philly and once beaten Providence coming to town. Hide the good china.
funshine720 11-01-2007, 12:25 PM Good test for the Pirates this weekend with once beaten Philly and once beaten Providence coming to town. Hide the good china.
Ha ha.... they've changed Saturday night from Hockey Night in Portland to Fight Night. I'm looking forward to it. :)
wildcat48 11-02-2007, 04:43 PM Speaking of hiding the good china.
The Ducks have signed Gordie Dwyer.
The Pirates were lacking a little toughness so this takes care of that.
Also Ryan Dingle and Bobby Bolt has been assigned to Augusta of the ECHL.
Pwnasaurus 11-02-2007, 04:44 PM Dingle...
I hope he makes it to the show someday.
Rabid Husky 11-02-2007, 09:26 PM No timetable on Goepfert.
He's been sent home and he's not expected to be the with Pirates this season. Which is why they signed McKenna.
They were mad at him with how he came into camp. He never said anything about the injury and when he arrived in Portland, it was sprung on them. What makes it worse was it went back to May.
I don't expect to hear too much from this season.
Is Gopefert not expected to play anywhere this year or would they send him to the ECHL?
The injury doesn't seem that serious.
Spankatola Jamnuts 11-02-2007, 10:50 PM Dingle...
I hope he makes it to the show someday.
Playing on a line with Pecker is his destiny.
Ducksforcup 11-03-2007, 01:02 AM Pirates win today in OT. They are actually really good in the extra session. (Unlike a certain team I know :help:).
Pwnasaurus 11-03-2007, 01:25 AM Playing on a line with Pecker is his destiny.
LOL.
Diagonal Dump
TheJoeMan 11-03-2007, 01:44 AM Bobby Ryan gets another PP point. 7 of his 8 points are on the PP and our PP stinks. If Bertuzzi doesn't come back soon we've got to call up Bobby. I'm sick of seeing Mark Mowers on there simply because he is a right handed winger. Bobby's a right handed winger Randy, make it happen.
wildcat48 11-03-2007, 01:56 AM What a game tonight. It has to be a record with Portland playing in their fifth-straight OT.
Portland came out with some good energy and did a nice job keeping the Phantoms contained for the most part. They only committed two mistakes, which turned out to be goals.
Grenier was absolutely pummeled by Hoffman, especially when he connected on that one punch. It was lights out for Grenier. Bobby Ryan played well tonight...He seem more interested in playing then in the past.
It was a good game for Hiller. My only concern with Hiller is he seems to have an issue with his five-hole. Both goals were five-hole and the first goal I'm sure he wish he could have back.
According to KD, Dwyer is not in game shape so it might be a couple weeks before he plays. Salcido was a healthy scratch.
wildcat48 11-03-2007, 02:00 AM Bobby Ryan gets another PP point. 7 of his 8 points are on the PP and our PP stinks. If Bertuzzi doesn't come back soon we've got to call up Bobby. I'm sick of seeing Mark Mowers on there simply because he is a right handed winger. Bobby's a right handed winger Randy, make it happen.
Spoke to Al Coates tonight and they don't expect Ryan to get a call anytime soon unless an injury was to occur. Even then its no guarantee.
Coates said that they were very content with Ryan in Portland and he still needs to work on his defensive game.
TheJoeMan 11-03-2007, 04:42 AM Spoke to Al Coates tonight and they don't expect Ryan to get a call anytime soon unless an injury was to occur. Even then its no guarantee.
Coates said that they were very content with Ryan in Portland and he still needs to work on his defensive game.
Bummer.
Well I hope Mat Schneider can help this power play because Mowers and Robbie and crap aren't.
Johnny Danger 11-03-2007, 06:25 AM Salcido was a healthy scratch.
why?! seems to have some great numbers so far ..
Randall Graves* 11-03-2007, 08:31 AM Spoke to Al Coates tonight and they don't expect Ryan to get a call anytime soon unless an injury was to occur. Even then its no guarantee.
Coates said that they were very content with Ryan in Portland and he still needs to work on his defensive game.
I'm not very content with Mark Mowers being unable to handle a tape to tape pass..
Mooseduck 11-04-2007, 05:39 AM Spoke to Al Coates tonight and they don't expect Ryan to get a call anytime soon unless an injury was to occur. Even then its no guarantee.
Coates said that they were very content with Ryan in Portland and he still needs to work on his defensive game.
Thanks WC,
Ryan belongs in Portland. Hopefully they can teach him a good work ethic.
We have seen "good prospects" pissed away in the past because of hyper-enthusiam by knucklehead fans and coaches. Portland will be a good place for Bobby to mature into a NHL player. The current roster is fine. Should certain anticipated moves be made, we will be that much better off. Again, thanks for the updates.
Mooseduck 11-04-2007, 06:07 AM WC:
Can you give an update/background on Gordie Dwyer when possible.
Thanks and is this a short term thing?
wildcat48 11-04-2007, 01:35 PM He has yet to play a game. The team was lacking a little a bit of toughness so that's why he's here.
He needs a week or so to get into game shape, he was still in training camp mode when the Pirates brought him in.
He could be ready to play next week against Providence.
bleuer 11-04-2007, 04:48 PM Playing on a line with Pecker is his destiny.
Please....Corey "Assist-machine" Pecker? He plays in Switzerland now...2nd league, and he's by far the best scorer...whatever that has to say :)
http://www.nationalleague.ch/NL/spiele/de/statistik_nlb.php
By the way...the guy on place 9 is "our" Terry Yake :) Still playing...
wildcat48 11-09-2007, 07:38 PM This weeks notebook speaks about the underlying issues of the Pirates offense and the fact they are not getting enough secondary scoring.
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/5453/jounraltribune119071tv4.th.jpg (http://img151.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jounraltribune119071tv4.jpg)
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/4605/jounraltribune119072rw5.th.jpg (http://img339.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jounraltribune119072rw5.jpg)
Ducksforcup 11-12-2007, 01:39 AM The Pirates are 7-5-1 and currently sit 3rd in their division. They are doing purdy well this year! :)
wildcat48 11-12-2007, 04:18 AM Don't let their record fool ya. They've only won two games in regulation. In their last two games they've been severely outshot.
Offensively, they've struggled to get any secondary scoring outside of Ebbett, King and Ryan. This weekend they've finally got something from elsewhere. Their five-on-five play has been awful, they're averaging less than two goals per game five-on-five, relying on their PP for the rest and then they are only in the 2.36 GPG range.
Defensively, they've had a hard time maintaining leads and keeping the puck out of their zone. Rome and Salcido have looked "ugh" over that period of time.
Only five players on the Pirates have a +/- better than +1.
Goaltending has been really good and probably the saving grace of the team.
It's not for a lack of effort, but really a lack of execution
Ducksforcup 11-12-2007, 04:31 AM Don't let their record fool ya. They've only won two games in regulation. In their last two games they've been severely outshot.
Offensively, they've struggled to get any secondary scoring outside of Ebbett, King and Ryan. This weekend they've finally got something from elsewhere. Their five-on-five play has been awful, they're averaging less than two goals per game five-on-five, relying on their PP for the rest and then they are only in the 2.36 GPG range.
Defensively, they've had a hard time maintaining leads and keeping the puck out of their zone. Rome and Salcido have looked "ugh" over that period of time.
Only five players on the Pirates have a +/- better than +1.
Goaltending has been really good and probably the saving grace of the team.
It's not for a lack of effort, but really a lack of execution
I suppose, but they are still finding ways to win. Of-course, you would know the situation much better than me. I am glad that the goaltending has looked good. That has been a weakpoint for the Pirates for too long.
wildcat48 11-12-2007, 06:58 AM Them being able to find a way to still pull out the win is a positive, but that still scares the hell out of me because if they flip that switch off, it could get ugly fast.
I think if they can solve the secondary scoring problems...They could be really solid team in the division.....Like the Ducks and the Pacific division, other than Providence nobody has really grabbed the division by storm.
AdamBanks8 11-12-2007, 07:08 PM Wildcat,
Do you think Ebbett has the potential to be an Andy Mcdonald type player? How has B Ryan looked? Does anyone besides them have NHL top six potential? Thanks.
snarktacular 11-12-2007, 07:28 PM Random question. How's Matt Keith doing in Portland? What kind of role is he playing (Offensive? Checker? Grinder?)? Does he has any NHL potential at all? Is he anywhere near NHL ready? I ask because it looks like he's scheduled to become an UFA if he plays less than 36 games in the big show.
wildcat48 11-12-2007, 09:09 PM Wildcat,
Do you think Ebbett has the potential to be an Andy Mcdonald type player? How has B Ryan looked? Does anyone besides them have NHL top six potential? Thanks.
Yeah, Ebbett is a mold of Andy Mac, but I think Ebbett actually plays with a bit of an edge. He's not one to take penalties, but he will get in front of the net and take the punishment that comes with playing in the paint. I will be really shocked if he's not recalled at some point this season.
Bobby Ryan is getting better from his first games in Portland. He was actually taken off the top line with Ebbett and King and moved down to a line Brandon Segal and Matt Keith. He's also been converted to a center, which I think has helped him because he has to move his feet, which was one of his issues.
If you're asking is there any other players on the Pirates who could be top-6 players, then I would say probably not. King could be a top-6, but maybe not under the Ducks system.
wildcat48 11-12-2007, 09:18 PM Random question. How's Matt Keith doing in Portland? What kind of role is he playing (Offensive? Checker? Grinder?)? Does he has any NHL potential at all? Is he anywhere near NHL ready? I ask because it looks like he's scheduled to become an UFA if he plays less than 36 games in the big show.
Matt Keith does have NHL potential, but he has to get his scoring game into gear.
I really think he's still searching for his game. He was touted as an offensive player who could put 20-30 goals a season and could be a potential 100 point player at the AHL level, but he's just having a difficult getting his game going. Keith works hard and his work ethic is there on most nights, but he has his moments. Moving Bobby Ryan to his line might help spark him and get him going. I don't think you'll see him in NHL this season so he will be come a UFA at season's end.
Heavy Hussar 11-12-2007, 09:22 PM Ryan is playing center?? this is great news. i saw he got the game winner sat night :D
Duckstudd269 11-12-2007, 10:09 PM was he demoted to the 2nd line? Or was it more to balance the scoring out?
Kevin Forbes 11-12-2007, 10:14 PM was he demoted to the 2nd line? Or was it more to balance the scoring out?
From the sounds of it, I would guess the latter.
wildcat48 11-12-2007, 10:41 PM was he demoted to the 2nd line? Or was it more to balance the scoring out?
It was actually a little bit of both.
KD needed to try and generate some secondary scoring and breaking up King, Ebbett and Ryan was really his only options because that's really the only line scoring. King and Ebbett have such good chemistry that Dino wasn't splitting them up at all cost so Ryan was the only option.
It was a demotion in the sense that when Ryan was pulled off the top line, he was moved to center with Keith and Segal. It was a bit of a shot over his bow because of two reasons:
1.) He wasn't moving his feet, he was flat footed on most nights. He'd make a great pass, but he was never really in the play.
2.) Moving him to center meant he now has a greater defensive responsibility to the team.
It's putting him in a situation that he has to skate or he could get caught out to dry.... He has to play smart and not play a "Perry" style of hockey.
Right now the lines for Portland are
King-Ebbett-Wilson
Keith-Ryan-Segal
Dixon-Carter-Bouck
Hoffman-Dwyer
Rome-Mikkelson
Weinrich-Salcido
Callahan-Schneider
Festerling is sitting.
Ducksforcup 11-12-2007, 11:31 PM Sorry to pepper ya WC, but I really am curious.
How is A. Schneider doing?
wildcat48 11-12-2007, 11:48 PM Sorry to pepper ya WC, but I really am curious.
How is A. Schneider doing?
Overall, he's been decent. He's was out of the line up for a couple games and getting into action was tough, but he's been a nice physical presence on the PK, plus he has a shot that just screams when he gets all of it.
wildcat48 11-13-2007, 05:54 AM He grows on you
Andrew Ebbett proves that size doesn't matter if you can play.
Portland Pirates center Andrew Ebbett is no longer flying under pro hockey's radar screen.
In his second pro season, he's emerged as one of the leading scorers in the American Hockey League.
Ebbett has gone from being an undrafted player who signed an AHL contract to a true National Hockey League prospect.
Read More>>> (http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/story.php?id=147465&ac=PHspt)
Randall Graves* 11-13-2007, 08:37 AM I actually like Ryan as a center, his skill set could be suited for it and putting more responsibility on him is the best way for him to learn.
wildcat48 11-15-2007, 04:38 AM It was an odd game. Pirates lost 3-2 in a SO.
The DDC was still pretty dirty from the renovations, the lobby and concourse look really nice. The jersey's are nasty looking, we kept calling them banana split jersey's
The game it's self was a good game... both teams are so equal in talent and it could have gone either way. Both Bruins goals, however, were mistakes by the Pirates.
1.) Schneider took a really dumb penalty and the Pirates failed to pickup Sabotka in the dead zone.
2.) The Pirates completely missed the coverage on T.J. Trevelyan and he was alone in the slot and roofed it.
Dixon played a solid game night as the Pirates are starting to get some secondary scoring, but their offense is still anemic and the their defense scares me at points.
KD was tinkering with the lines all night as he was trying to find the right combination for offense and grit. He began with:
Segal-Ryan-Wilson
Keith-Ebbett-King
Hoffman-Wirtanen-Dwyer
Hoffman-Bouck-Dixon
He went to about the halfway point of the first and then he made all new lines.
Keith-Dixon-Dwyer
Bouck-Ebbett-King
Segal-Ryan-Wilson (Line stayed the same)
Hoffman-Wirtanen-Bouck
And then he put Segal-Ebbett-King and Keith-Ryan-Wilson back together from Sunday in Hartford.
Both goalies put on a clinic as Hiller and Rask have to be considered the top two goalies in the AHL.
The shootout is so trivial.
From the OC Register today: "The club recalled Ryan Carter from AHL-affiliate Portland."
What's the story with Carter, is he healthy now?
cbjgirl 11-15-2007, 12:51 PM As copied from our board...
Platt traded to Anaheim
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Put this in the minor league thread, but thought it deserved its own.
The other shoe has dropped - Columbus has shaken up the Crunch by trading struggling forward Geoff Platt to the Anaheim organization.
In return, the Crunch is getting forward/defenseman Clay Wilson (3-5 for Portland this season, 9-34 last year) and defenseman Aaron Rome (2-3 this year, 8-17 last season).
Also, Syracuse defenseman Bruno St. Jacques is going to Portland. It's not clear if Syracuse is getting anything back.
The trade came down at about 10:30 a.m. Platt was told right before he took the ice for practice.
If it feels like deja vu, it is. Columbus traded Mark Hartigan and Joe Motzko to the Anaheim organization last year in exchange for Curtis Glencross and Zenon Konopka. That helped turn Syracuse's season around. We'll see if this has the same impact.
Lindsay Kramer
LKramer@Syracuse.com
Duckstudd269 11-15-2007, 01:10 PM whats the story on this platt guy?
Casework 11-15-2007, 01:16 PM whats the story on this platt guy?
Undrafted. Very solid player. He's got a lot of heart. A lot of us thought he had a good shot to make the Jackets squad this year, but for some reason, he didn't show that same passion in training camp, and was one of the first cuts. He was a healthy scratch once for Syracuse for "a lack of effort". He's a small guy, so he can't afford to play with a lack of effort. Not really sure what has caused this in him. But he is a solid guy and I think you guys will be happy with him.
Any words on Rome and Wilson?
As always, nice doing business with ya, Ducks. We don't even have Doug around here to do the dealing anymore!:sarcasm:
Kevin Forbes 11-15-2007, 01:22 PM http://blog.syracuse.com/crunch/2007/11/another_big_trade.html
Here's the link.
Says St. Jacques for futures, and from the phrasing, I wouldn't doubt that's an AHL-level trade (in other words St. Jacques' NHL rights stay with Columbus). If that is the case, Anaheim moves one more contract away from the 50 contract limit.
mississauga jim 11-15-2007, 02:15 PM I'll fill you in on Platter. He had a bad fall in a mountain biking accident last summer in Golden British Columbia. He suffered a broken hand, a mild concussion, strained ligaments in both wrists a re-injured a shoulder that had been seperated back in junior. When he went to training camp last September in Columbus he was not ready and his play reflected this.
I would say that he is about 90% right now and a change will do him a world of good. He and Corey Perry were rivals in junior back when Perry had 47 goals and Platter had 45 on a weak team (Erie Otters). Clearly Platt does not fit in the Hitchcock system where the centers have to be 6'3" ,slow and unskilled. For some reason they wanted Platt as a winger even though he had never played this posistion until this season.
Anaheim/Portland has got a good one and, given the no nonsense approach of your organization he should be able to help your team(s). The situation in Syracuse had gone from roses to a toxic waste dump because of the injury. Last season he was MVP of the Crunch and over the summer he became a pariah because of his accident. Funny how hockey works sometimes.
wildcat48 11-15-2007, 02:59 PM From the OC Register today: "The club recalled Ryan Carter from AHL-affiliate Portland."
What's the story with Carter, is he healthy now?
Carter is healthy as was recalled because the Ducks had the roster space to do so and they didn't have an extra forward. I suspect that Carter or Miller will be re-assigned to Portland once Bertuzzi is healthy and playing a regular shift.
wildcat48 11-15-2007, 03:03 PM http://blog.syracuse.com/crunch/2007/11/another_big_trade.html
Here's the link.
Says St. Jacques for futures, and from the phrasing, I wouldn't doubt that's an AHL-level trade (in other words St. Jacques' NHL rights stay with Columbus). If that is the case, Anaheim moves one more contract away from the 50 contract limit.
St. Jacques was signed by Syracuse to an AHL contract. He doesn't have any NHL rights so this deal had no bearing on the original trade with Anaheim.
This was strictly an AHL to AHL transaction.
SamitheGreat 11-15-2007, 03:08 PM Is this trade so minor that it does not need any deserve its own thread? Seems like a pretty significant loss of a couple decent defenseman for what could be a nice goal scoring forward. Is this trade as minor as the thread makes it look?
Bobby Ryan Getzlaf 11-15-2007, 03:10 PM He grows on you
Andrew Ebbett proves that size doesn't matter if you can play.
Read More>>> (http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/story.php?id=147465&ac=PHspt)
So, wait, the Ducks sign an unheralded, undrafted player who played college hockey and he comes into their system and he starts lighting it up? Where, oh where, have I heard that one before?
wildcat48 11-15-2007, 03:25 PM Wilson was a defenseman who the Ducks were trying to convert to forward in Portland. He's a solid player and carries an offensive upside to his game. I suspect his days of playing forward are over though. He'll still net you 50 pts if he's on his game.
Rome is difficult to decipher because he a big bruising defenseman who can quarterback a PP and has a booming shot, but other times he's pylon on the ice. He is a little slow with his foot speed and he can and has been caught out of position on numerous times this season. A change of scenery might do him some good.
wildcat48 11-15-2007, 03:28 PM It's not a huge trade to the Ducks organization, but it is a fairly large trade to the Pirates. They were struggling to score goals and this might help them because Wilson wasn't helping to get done on the line with King and Ebbett.
Rome was going to be dealt this season anyway. I'm just surprised it was in a deal to help Portland as to helping Anaheim.
theShiba 11-15-2007, 03:31 PM Carter is healthy as was recalled because the Ducks had the roster space to do so and they didn't have an extra forward. I suspect that Carter or Miller will be re-assigned to Portland once Bertuzzi is healthy and playing a regular shift.
More likely Carter than Miller... Miller's been getting a lot of ice time for someone who's going to be reassigned.
snarktacular 11-15-2007, 03:45 PM Ryan Shannon 2.0? Or maybe Shannon is Platt 2.0, since both first and last names are 2 syllables?
I thought Wilson had some promise, Rome was a useless (for us) 6/7 upside defenseman. Giant meh from me.
cbjgirl 11-15-2007, 03:50 PM More trade info...
http://blog.dispatch.com/cbj/2007/11/platt_moved_in_minor_deal.shtml
TheJoeMan 11-15-2007, 03:58 PM I hope this lights fire under Salcido because that puts him 8th on the Ducks depth-chart right now for d-men. Though I don't think he's ready but if someone goes down he may get the call.
The Ducks don't eff around with their bubble d-men. If they don't break through after a couple of seasons they get the boot. Not that I have a problem with that. I think Mikkleson and Salcido have better upside than the likes of Skinner, Rome and Wilson did. Not to mention we'll need room for Mitera next year too.
snarktacular 11-15-2007, 03:58 PM More trade info...
http://blog.dispatch.com/cbj/2007/11/platt_moved_in_minor_deal.shtml
What's Platt's story that the article talks about? Or is it just the whole begging for a shot at rookie camp thing?
Kevin Forbes 11-15-2007, 04:25 PM What's Platt's story that the article talks about? Or is it just the whole begging for a shot at rookie camp thing?
Platt was scratched recently for lack of effort and to date has had a 2007-08 season to forget from the sounds of it. I think someone mentioned elsewhere that he got injured during the offseason and that kind of waylaid his attempt to make the Blue Jackets. He's been free falling ever since. A fresh start should be just what the Doctor ordered.
snarktacular 11-15-2007, 04:30 PM Platt was scratched recently for lack of effort and to date has had a 2007-08 season to forget from the sounds of it. I think someone mentioned elsewhere that he got injured during the offseason and that kind of waylaid his attempt to make the Blue Jackets. He's been free falling ever since. A fresh start should be just what the Doctor ordered.
Well that's helpful too, but I meant what's his story that the article mentions when it said "Platt is a really good kid, and a great story. Only Disney could believe his tale, so I guess it makes sense that Anaheim would want him."
Makes it sound like a Penner-like story or something.
Kevin Forbes 11-15-2007, 04:35 PM Well that's helpful too, but I meant what's his story that the article mentions when it said "Platt is a really good kid, and a great story. Only Disney could believe his tale, so I guess it makes sense that Anaheim would want him."
Makes it sound like a Penner-like story or something.
Sounds more like a Konopka-esque story. Undrafted after playing in the OHL, he gets a shot at a rookie camp and turns it into a decent amount of games at the NHL level.
Skraut 11-15-2007, 05:00 PM I can't find the actual newspaper article, (it's from a couple years ago and you have to subscribe to the Columbus paper to view stories that old), but Platt was an undrafted, unsigned free agent who basically showed up at the doorstep of the gm of one of the lower Jackets affiliates (Dayton, Youngstown, I can't remember which one) and asked to show what he could do. He impressed so much he made the Jackets camp, and impressed so much there that he got sent to the AHL out of camp. (if I recall correctly he never played for the ECHL team) He was even called up to the CBJ a few games that season. He got an extended call up last season due to injuries and played ok, but as much as you wanted to really like the guy and see him do well, it just seemed like he just "wasn't there yet"
Here's hoping he gets the chance to prove what he's made of in your organization.
Skraut 11-15-2007, 05:19 PM Well whaddia know, I found the article.
Enjoy folks
http://www.dispatch.com/live/contentbe/dispatch/2006/07/16/20060716-E4-01.html
and another good article
http://www.dispatch.com/live/contentbe/dispatch/2007/03/07/20070307-F1-03.html
Elvstrand 11-15-2007, 05:28 PM You don't think Platt will have any shot at a wingerspot in Anaheim? He has great speed and has good scoring sence, shouldn't he get a chance with McDonald right away?
Qubax 11-15-2007, 05:32 PM I believe he'll get a call up to Anaheim at some point...If he indeed is working through these injuries then that may take some time to get into 100 percent competitive NHL level game shape...
but I think he's got a chance to be a Kunitz/Mcdonald hybrid..
wildcat48 11-15-2007, 05:45 PM Every player with the Pirates has a chance to play with the Ducks, but that was not the intentions of this deal. He was acquired to help the Pirates out with their offense. It has been very anemic since the start of the season as the Pirates only had one line that could score consistently. That led to KD shuffling line to trying and find the right combination, but they needed another goal-scorer and this will give it to them.
Platt could play in Anaheim, but no time soon.
cbjgirl 11-15-2007, 05:55 PM What's Platt's story that the article talks about? Or is it just the whole begging for a shot at rookie camp thing?
I think the main thing is that he came out of "nowhere". Went undrafted, signed and ECHL contract (I think) and within a few months had an AHL then an NHL contract.
Last spring when we were hit by many injuries, he was playing on the 1st line with Nash and (I think) Zherdev. To go from "nowhere" to the 1st line on an NHL team is pretty extraordinary.
I just checked NHL.com for a few stats - he definately played with Nash and Z on 3/22/07 vs Detroit. I'm not going to bother looking for more.
I would say that he is about 90% right now and a change will do him a world of good. He and Corey Perry were rivals in junior back when Perry had 47 goals and Platter had 45 on a weak team (Erie Otters). Clearly Platt does not fit in the Hitchcock system where the centers have to be 6'3" ,slow and unskilled. For some reason they wanted Platt as a winger even though he had never played this posistion until this season.
It's actually a bit easier to make a transition to winger rather than to C....so it should not have been a problem for him, plus as a professional you better be prepared to move around if needed. Heck, one of the guys the CBJ got is a F/D. It shouldn't be an excuse. Plus seeing how Peca and Brule center lines for the Jackets...
And the whole size issue was a bit of a problem. Hitch doesn't quite discriminate like you say...but size is needed. If you watched him play any last year during his extended call up, and was on the #1 line for a while playing C, he was down on his butt a lot after battling in the corners, etc. Got beat by some bigger guys driving the net too. So if he's to play C, he needs to strengthen up a bit.
I like Platt, and definitely a feel good story. I always hoped he'd turn out to be our Marty St Louis....good luck to him definitely though.
LetsGOJackets!! 11-15-2007, 06:26 PM I always find myself rooting for the underdog, and Platter made it easy to like him..kid works his arse off, can skate like the wind and can score.
Good luck Geoff
Ducksforcup 11-15-2007, 06:38 PM I think that this is a solid risk for the team. Wilson had some potential, but he was forced unto the forward position where he isn't really comfortable. Rome is solid, but this is a good trade. Platt seems like a good guy that just needs a change of scenery.
snarktacular 11-15-2007, 06:55 PM Well whaddia know, I found the article.
Enjoy folks
http://www.dispatch.com/live/contentbe/dispatch/2006/07/16/20060716-E4-01.html
and another good article
http://www.dispatch.com/live/contentbe/dispatch/2007/03/07/20070307-F1-03.html
Thanks, exactly what i was looking for.
It's a great story, but we're spoiled because of Penner's story. Platt's story just pales in comparison.
Although the whole tiny guy part is a plus.
Dirk316 11-15-2007, 08:02 PM I would think Segal would be the next player to get a shot at a call up
Well he got a goal against the baby kings tonight and picked a fight with Cloutier so he is automatically my favourite prospect right now.
Ducksforcup 11-16-2007, 11:40 PM Yep, good win for the Pirates today. 5-3 win over the baby Kings. Platt with his first goal with the Pirates as you said. Festerling with his first career professional goal! Congrats! :)
Ducksforcup 11-18-2007, 03:46 AM Pirates win again over the Baby Sharks 5-3. Platt with a goal and two assists in the winning effort. Ryan with 2 goals and an assist. Ebbett with 2 assists. :) They are now 8-1-1 in the last 10. Pretty impressive.
Platt now has 4 points in 2 games. Looks like he was just what the doctor ordered! :yo:
Ducksforcup 11-18-2007, 08:28 PM Pirates lost today to Hartford 4-3, but Platt had another goal and assist. That is 6 points in 3 games for him. What a start! He has almost equaled the total he got in 15 games (7 points) with the Crunch in 12 less games! Newcomer St. Jacques had two assists in the game as well.
Here are the stats. Ebbett and Ryan continue to impress, while Dixon has really started to pick it up lately. :)
http://stats.theahl.com/stats/game-summary.php?game_id=1003737
wildcat48 11-19-2007, 12:49 AM This wasn't a very good game for the Pirates. They didn't play smart hockey and looked really tired after playing only their second three-in-three weekend of the season.
“We look like a tired hockey team for long periods of the game,” said Pirates coach Dineen. “Sometimes you don’t have the jump you need to and you need to find other ways to win by having more (team discipline).”
Hartford held the play for the majority of the game as they just peppered McKenna. Looking at the TOI stats, the wolf pack were in the offensive zone for almost 40 min. Dineen wasn't too thrill with the team, he felt the effort was there, but they weren't smart and tried to do too much instead of just playing safe hockey.
“Anytime you allow four goals you can’t call it a great game and I think he’d be the first to admit that,” said Dineen. “We’d been scoring some goals and giving our goalies some support, but we needed to be better in all areas of the puck.”
Platt has been amazing since coming to Portland. In three games with Portland, he has six points (3G 3A), which one shy of what he had in 15 games with Syracuse. With him playing center, it moves Ryan back to right wing and he is thrilled about that. Ryan has been build his confidence for the last few games and you're seeing that now. Dineen is keeping guys together in pairs and then working with the odd wing to find the right line. He has King, Ebbett as one pair, Ryan, Platt as the second pair and then Wirtanen, Hoffman as the third pairing. It's much easier move a single winger in and out of the line up to find that balance scoring.
McKenna didn't have his strongest game, he saw a lot of rubber, the goals were soft with the exception of the Parenteau goal. On the first goal, Why did he have to come out? Festerling had the angle and he should have taken the shooter, but not come out and take out Taylor at the knee's.
Speaking of Taylor, Segal beat the snot out of him in the first period....talk about turtling.
The officiating was poor tonight, Morton screwed up the tripping calls on Baranka and then turned around and made the same stupid call on Salcido -- at least he was consistent.
Ryan really summed it up the best.
“A lot can be said about the weekend overall,” said forward Bobby Ryan “It’s tough to have lapses like that after battling back to let those two points slip away because those are the point you look back on at the end of the season.”
The wolf pack were the better team tonight.
Sidenote: Platt was nominated for Player of the Week and he should have a good chance for RBK/AHL Player of the Week with three goals, three assists for six points in three games and he was a +4 as the Pirates when 2-1 with him in the lineup.
Ducksforcup 11-22-2007, 04:44 PM http://stats.theahl.com/stats/game-summary.php?game_id=1003748
Pirates won yesterday 3-0! :) :hockey: Coleman got the shut-out, while Tyler Bouck (2), Andrew Ebbett (6), and Brian Salcido (3) scored the goals for Portland. Geoff Platt continued his point-scoring streak, notching an assist in the effort (7 points in 4 games).
Duckstudd269 11-23-2007, 12:33 AM what are the lines for the pirates lately? And who is scratched?
Platt sounds a lot like a Kunitz/McDonald prospect.
wildcat48 11-23-2007, 04:28 AM The lines have been juggled around, but they look something like this.
Platt-Carter-Ryan
King-Ebbett-Dixon
Bouck-Wirtanen-Keith
Hoffman-Wirtanen-Segal
Festerling-Weinrich
Schneider-Salcido
St. Jacques-Mikkelson
Scratches:
Maxim Kondratiev (Suspeneded)
Shane Hynes (Foot)
Joe Callahan (Foot)
Simon Ferguson (Healthy)
Gordie Dwyer (Healthy)
lux_interior 11-23-2007, 03:11 PM Wirtanen is being double shifted on the 3rd and 4th lines?
wildcat48 11-23-2007, 05:36 PM Because they only have 17 skaters in the AHL, Wirtanen is the one who takes most of the defensive face-offs. He so good defensively, Dineen wants him out there when ever the other team has their best line on the ice.
McDonald19 11-23-2007, 06:03 PM What's the AHL's theory behind allowing only 17 skaters?
snarktacular 11-23-2007, 06:16 PM Because they only have 17 skaters in the AHL, Wirtanen is the one who takes most of the defensive face-offs. He so good defensively, Dineen wants him out there when ever the other team has their best line on the ice.
Is that a new rule? I knew the ECHL allowed you to dress fewer skaters, but I thought the AHL was 20 like the NHL?
wildcat48 11-23-2007, 08:49 PM No, it not new....It's actually been that way for a while. There was actually a time when it was 16 skaters, but the league's thinking is it allows for ice time for the prospects to learn and improve their game.
The League has rattled with the idea of changing it, but not enough BoG votes.
Ducksforcup 11-23-2007, 10:33 PM http://stats.theahl.com/stats/game-summary.php?game_id=1003765
Pirates lose to the #1 team Providence 3-2 today. Goals by Platt (8) and Ryan (6) fueled the offense. Platt (who also had an assist in the game) now has 9 points in 5 games. This guy is seriously on an insane pace. Ryan has been doing a lot better lately too. He has 17 points in 18 games. :)
Whats going to happen to this team when Carter and or Miller get sent down too now that Sutherby is on the big club.
Tight squeeze again?
wildcat48 11-24-2007, 04:16 PM Whats going to happen to this team when Carter and or Miller get sent down too now that Sutherby is on the big club.
Tight squeeze again?
Carter is already down. Miller is questionable. The Ducks may hold on to two forwards, plus he's been playing so he may not get sent down.
Ducksforcup 11-25-2007, 12:20 AM Pirates pull out the win today in OT over Manchester winning 5-4. Goals from Ryan (7), Salcido (4), Dixon (6) and (7), and King (9) supplied the goals for the Pirates. King tied it with 21 seconds left in the game and Dixon scored the GWG a few seconds into OT! :yo: Platt, with 3 assists in the game, extended his point streak to 12 points in 6 games since the trade.
Ryan, Dixon, Salcido, and Platt have been on fire lately.
snarktacular 11-25-2007, 12:23 AM Hmm... Platt = King/Monarch killer?
Randall Graves* 11-25-2007, 04:20 AM I wonder how long it is until Platt gets a look, he's a young guy, maybe he's the next player shuffled onto McDonalds wing.
Kevin Forbes 11-25-2007, 10:14 AM Augusta Lynx Head Coach Bob Ferguson has announced that the Portland Pirates have assigned goaltender Bobby Goepfert to the Augusta Lynx.
http://www.augustalynx.com/news/pressreleases/index.html?article_id=826
Elvstrand 11-25-2007, 02:24 PM St. Jacques insn't under contract with the Ducks right? So he can't play in the NHL unless the Ducks signs him? Now with Kondratiev and Rome gone, the Ducks should sign him IMO.
wildcat48 11-25-2007, 05:06 PM Correct, St. Jacques has an AHL contract so he would need to be signed before Anaheim could recall him.
Vulak 11-27-2007, 06:52 AM Any updates on Bobby Ryan? is he still product of his linemates or is he showing signs of picking it up? 3+2 for for him in weekends games seems pretty decent?
wildcat48 11-27-2007, 10:07 AM Ryan is getting better, for sure. He was moved to center a few weeks ago and it really help him in his development because he had to have a better grasp on his defensive responsibilities. He did a good job and now he's back on the wing with Geoff Platt as both have found a chemistry with each other and point up points, but more importantly playing better defensive hockey.
Pwnasaurus 11-27-2007, 10:22 AM Good to hear.
Heavy Hussar 11-28-2007, 10:03 PM Ryan is getting better, for sure. He was moved to center a few weeks ago and it really help him in his development because he had to have a better grasp on his defensive responsibilities. He did a good job and now he's back on the wing with Geoff Platt as both have found a chemistry with each other and point up points, but more importantly playing better defensive hockey.
bobby is starting to put up some pretty good #'s. 2 questions.
is his skating showing improvement?
what does he need to do to get a call up?
Big Daddy 11-29-2007, 02:42 AM Hey Wildcat 48, how are Brett Festerling and Brendan Mikkelson looking?
wildcat48 11-29-2007, 09:11 AM bobby is starting to put up some pretty good #'s. 2 questions.
is his skating showing improvement?
what does he need to do to get a call up?
Ryan's really improved since he arrived in Portland because of two reasons. He spent some time at center and that really helped him with moving his feet and keeping them moving. Also, it gave him a reason to be defensively responsible instead of trying be a one man magic show. He's realized he has to be part of a five-part unit.
Ryan getting a call up is going to depend on Anaheim moving other bodies to make room for him. When and if they do that, he'll get a call.
wildcat48 11-29-2007, 09:21 AM Hey Wildcat 48, how are Brett Festerling and Brendan Mikkelson looking?
Festerling hasn't done much point-wise - only three points, but he's been a monster with some of his hits. He been a healthy scratch a few times and is obviously still learning the pro game, but he's laid a few hits this season that's put me in traction......:amazed:
Mikkelson is also still learning the pro game. He's got no better teacher to learn from other than Eric Weinrich, who been his line partner most of the year and especially since Aaron Rome was traded....I think more was expected from him points wise, but overall he be fine as the year moves on.
Big Daddy 11-29-2007, 10:31 AM Festerling hasn't done much point-wise - only three points, but he's been a monster with some of his hits. He been a healthy scratch a few times and is obviously still learning the pro game, but he's laid a few hits this season that's put me in traction......:amazed:
Mikkelson is also still learning the pro game. He's got no better teacher to learn from other than Eric Weinrich, who been his line partner most of the year and especially since Aaron Rome was traded....I think more was expected from him points wise, but overall he be fine as the year moves on.
Thanks man!
Sound pretty much like their junior careers.
Good for Festerling, getting a contract as an un-drafted prospect.
I always thought Mikkelson was taken a little high. He has some offensive skills but his brain couldn't keep up with his skates in junior.
snarktacular 11-29-2007, 10:50 PM St. Jacques insn't under contract with the Ducks right? So he can't play in the NHL unless the Ducks signs him? Now with Kondratiev and Rome gone, the Ducks should sign him IMO.
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Good call. Eklund is claiming the Ducks signed him (e5).
He'll probably be the first call up on D. But with DiPenta sitting in the box and Scotty possibly coming back, it seems pretty unlikely we call anyone up. This is probably more to prevent another NHL team from signing St. Jacques and disrupting Portland's defense.
Ducksforcup 12-02-2007, 03:57 PM http://stats.theahl.com/stats/game-summary.php?game_id=1003820
Portland won 6-3 yesterday against the Baby Sharks. Platt, Ryan, Dixon, and Salcido continue their torrid paces! :handclap:
McDonald19 12-02-2007, 08:41 PM Any word on the St. Jacques signing Wildcat?
Randall Graves* 12-03-2007, 05:22 AM I think WC posted elsewhere Bruno signed?
Pirates lost again, Ryan with another 2 point game, Platt and Salsa both extended their streaks. Whenever Ryan gets another look(and i'm betting it won't be long now with how poorly our older players are playing) I'd really like to see him get a crack with Getz and Perry, if not bring Platt with him but you don't wanna strip their depth either.
funshine720 12-03-2007, 11:05 AM I think WC posted elsewhere Bruno signed?
Pirates lost again, Ryan with another 2 point game, Platt and Salsa both extended their streaks. Whenever Ryan gets another look(and i'm betting it won't be long now with how poorly our older players are playing) I'd really like to see him get a crack with Getz and Perry, if not bring Platt with him but you don't wanna strip their depth either.
Last night was an insane game. Salsa tried to play goalie at one point after they pulled Coleman to try to tie it up. It was a flying dive into the net face first.
I'm not ready to see Platt go. He's had an amazing streak going for him. I'm ok with keeping him in Portland for a little bit longer. :)
LoveDaSlug 12-04-2007, 12:56 AM Buffalo has recently seen a falling-out due to various reasons with longtime affiliate Rochester (culminating in the dual-affiliation with Florida and soon, a severing of all ties, leaving the Amerks as the sole affiliate to the Panthers), and according to Panthers Assistant GM Randy Sexton, will be stocking the Pirates next year.
http://www.democratandchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071203/SPORTS02/71203048
Sexton said the Panthers have been told that Buffalo already has an agreement to stock the AHL's Portland Pirates next season. "We've heard from knowledgable people that that's in place," Sexton said.
Now, Buffalo brass has said before that they want their own team and not another dual-affiliation. But seeing as how Portland is still affiliated with Anaheim, is there a possibility of truth to this rumor? Would Portland have a reason to stop their affiliation with Anaheim?
wildcat48 12-04-2007, 10:16 AM Pirates could lose affiliation with Anaheim
Journal Tribune - 12/01/07
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Affiliation change imminent? Not according to Pirates
In the last week, there’s been a lot of talk about the future of the Portland Pirates, more specifically their affiliation with the Anaheim Ducks. It’s something that been speculated about since last season when Brian Burke went on a tour of the Ford Center in Oklahoma City.
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Elvstrand 12-04-2007, 03:18 PM How well do you guys think Drew Miller would replace Geoff Platt in Portland? I'd really like the Ducks to give Platt a chance on a line with McDonald soon...
snarktacular 12-04-2007, 03:44 PM This is OT, but that's what's sweet about being an East coast team. Buffalo's current affiliate is Rochester. What are they, like 2 hours apart? So if they wanted to, Buffalo could keep a roster of only 20-21 guys. Is a guy injured in morning skate? Have your next prospect hop in his car, and 2 hours later he's at HSBC arena, in plenty of time for the game.
Is a Duck gets injured in morning skate? Well that's like a 6 hour direct flight from Portland. And that's probably impossible unless you charter. So the travel time could be anywhere from 8-11 hours. That's not even counting the time it takes to get to and from the airport and the check-in time.
So if Buffalo carried a team of 20, and Anaheim carried a team of 22, that's 1 million dollars in extra cap space right there, assuming minimum salaries. And since they play 72 games in the Eastern Conference, and only like 4 of those cities are any appreciable distance away from Rochester (of which there's 8 games total away), they really could be more likely to get away with only 20 guys than the Ducks.
wildcat48 12-04-2007, 03:54 PM How well do you guys think Drew Miller would replace Geoff Platt in Portland? I'd really like the Ducks to give Platt a chance on a line with McDonald soon...
You'll have your wish...Platt has been recalled to Anaheim.
wildcat48 12-04-2007, 04:03 PM This is OT, but that's what's sweet about being an East coast team. Buffalo's current affiliate is Rochester. What are they, like 2 hours apart? So if they wanted to, Buffalo could keep a roster of only 20-21 guys. Is a guy injured in morning skate? Have your next prospect hop in his car, and 2 hours later he's at HSBC arena, in plenty of time for the game.
Is a Duck gets injured in morning skate? Well that's like a 6 hour direct flight from Portland. And that's probably impossible unless you charter. So the travel time could be anywhere from 8-11 hours. That's not even counting the time it takes to get to and from the airport and the check-in time.
So if Buffalo carried a team of 20, and Anaheim carried a team of 22, that's 1 million dollars in extra cap space right there, assuming minimum salaries. And since they play 72 games in the Eastern Conference, and only like 4 of those cities are any appreciable distance away from Rochester (of which there's 8 games total away), they really could be more likely to get away with only 20 guys than the Ducks.
I understand your point, but travel has never been an issue for Portland and Anaheim. They never had an issue where a player didn't arrive in time for a game, if he was needed. Because of the time change, a player in Portland can leave later in the day and arrive in Anaheim in plenty of time. If it was an issue, the Pirates have a charter standing by to fly a player any where in the country.
As for carrying 20 players or 22 players, that's a rarity unless the team is in the same city ie Toronto or Philly.
Most NHL teams will carry 22 players.
Kevin Forbes 12-04-2007, 04:27 PM This is OT, but that's what's sweet about being an East coast team. Buffalo's current affiliate is Rochester. What are they, like 2 hours apart? So if they wanted to, Buffalo could keep a roster of only 20-21 guys. Is a guy injured in morning skate? Have your next prospect hop in his car, and 2 hours later he's at HSBC arena, in plenty of time for the game.
Is a Duck gets injured in morning skate? Well that's like a 6 hour direct flight from Portland. And that's probably impossible unless you charter. So the travel time could be anywhere from 8-11 hours. That's not even counting the time it takes to get to and from the airport and the check-in time.
So if Buffalo carried a team of 20, and Anaheim carried a team of 22, that's 1 million dollars in extra cap space right there, assuming minimum salaries. And since they play 72 games in the Eastern Conference, and only like 4 of those cities are any appreciable distance away from Rochester (of which there's 8 games total away), they really could be more likely to get away with only 20 guys than the Ducks.
You do have a bit of a point, but it is worth factoring in the regular travel for teams both in the AHL and in the NHL.
So Anahiem playing teams like Nashville, Columbus, Chicago, Detroit, even St. Louis and Minnesota brings them dramatically closer, while still in the Western Conference.
Meanwhile Portland playing teams like Norfolk could bring them closer to Anaheim depending on where the Ducks are on the road.
Duckstudd269 12-04-2007, 08:55 PM You'll have your wish...Platt has been recalled to Anaheim.
Has Miller been sent down? Kinda sucks for him if so, they keep mentioning how this is the first time the brothers will meet against each other in the NHL. However, i'd be happy if Platt is in and Miller is out.
McDonald19 12-04-2007, 10:43 PM Now, Buffalo brass has said before that they want their own team and not another dual-affiliation. But seeing as how Portland is still affiliated with Anaheim, is there a possibility of truth to this rumor? Would Portland have a reason to stop their affiliation with Anaheim?
Never really made sense to have an AHL team as far away as geographically possible in the U.S.
San Antonio sounds good.
Nothing against Maine, just too far from California.
Duckstudd269 12-04-2007, 10:55 PM Never really made sense to have an AHL team as far away as geographically possible in the U.S.
San Antonio sounds good.
Nothing against Maine, just too far from California.
OKC sounds better... :):handclap:
I love the team being portland, it doesn't hurt when Wildcat gives the insight for us too, however I'd really like to see come here to OKC. I doubt it happens though. We're probably going to get the Seattle Superonics. At least it's a pro team I guess.
snarktacular 12-04-2007, 11:15 PM Never really made sense to have an AHL team as far away as geographically possible in the U.S.
San Antonio sounds good.
Nothing against Maine, just too far from California.
Well the flipside of that is day-to-day operations are more expensive with San Antonio. I think that's what hurt Cincy, it had more travel costs.
Nordique 12-05-2007, 03:51 PM 12.05.07 Geoff Platt was recalled(to Anaheim) from the AHL Portland Pirates.
Impact: Platt tore up the AHL with 16 points in just nine games with Portland. The 22 year old had four goals and nine points in 26 games with Columbus last season.
I miss this guy in Columbus/Syracuse. Platt worked his way up from the ECHL and walked into training camp 2 years ago earning a contract the old fashion way. Enjoy him, he's got some serious energy.
wildcat48 12-05-2007, 04:09 PM Never really made sense to have an AHL team as far away as geographically possible in the U.S.
San Antonio sounds good.
Nothing against Maine, just too far from California.
The geographic distance between the parent club and the minor league team should never be an issue, regardless if the team is on the opposite coast. Both LA and San Jose have their minor league team in New England and Phoenix was in Springfield for close to 10 years before they left, not because they were unhappy with the market.
The travel cost of moving a player from the AHL to the NHL are minuscule compared to the travel cost of playing in the AHL. If the Ducks move to San Antonio as is expected, they will have to fly to most of their destinations and it won't be by charter. It will be commercial flights. I had a conversation with a former Rampage player and he was telling me about flying from San Antonio to Winnipeg for a game on Friday, fly to Chicago for a Saturday night game and finish in Rochester, Syracuse or Toronto on Sunday before flying back to San Antonio for a game at home on Wednesday night. Each time they had to deal with delays, cancellations, customs, and all the same junk that you or I would have to deal with on a commercial flight.
Being in Portland, the Pirates never flew anywhere. In most cases they would have a morning skate and then depart Portland mid-afternoon for their game in Manchester, Lowell, Worcester or Springfield and then be able to come home after the game and sleep in their own bed.
The travel cost of moving a player from the AHL to the NHL are minuscule compared to the travel cost of playing in the AHL. If the Ducks move to San Antonio as is expected, they will have to fly to most of their destinations and it won't be by charter. It will be commercial flights. I had a conversation with a former Rampage player and he was telling me about flying from San Antonio to Winnipeg for a game on Friday, fly to Chicago for a Saturday night game and finish in Rochester, Syracuse or Toronto on Sunday before flying back to San Antonio for a game at home on Wednesday night. Each time they had to deal with delays, cancellations, customs, and all the same junk that you or I would have to deal with on a commercial flight.
I'd hate to be the equipment guy for the team flying every where. That would be one crappy job.
Randall Graves* 12-07-2007, 06:30 AM It will be interesting to see how Platts recall effects the Pirates Ryan had some chemistry going w/him so it will be interesting to see how he reacts.
Looks like Salsa will have to score even more now.
Kevin Forbes 12-29-2007, 10:50 PM Pretty exciting game in Augusta tonight.
Lynx won 3-2 over Columbia in the shootout. The shootout went to 11 shooters a piece. I was listening to the radio when it went to overtime and it was quite an ending.
Goepfert was in net for Augusta and stopped all 11 shooters. Got the second star of the night.
I'd hate to be the equipment guy for the team flying every where. That would be one crappy job.
I'd love that job. You get to watch all games, talk to players and coaches, travel, get a ring.
Kevin Forbes 12-30-2007, 01:56 AM I'd love that job. You get to watch all games, talk to players and coaches, travel, get a ring.
I know they did a thing about the life of the equipment guy in The Hockey News once. It didn't sound like a fun job. Whereas players might land somewhere and go to the hotel, that's when the equipment guy has to go to work, getting the visiting dressing room set up for the morning skate/practice. Then again for the game. Then after the game, getting everything dried, cleaned and packed up. All the while, balancing the needs of 20-odd players with their individual quirks and preferences.
It seems like a lot of long hours. Definitely one of the under-valued positions with any team.
wildcat48 01-09-2008, 11:11 PM Drew Miller netted a hat trick(3G, 1A) and Ebbett had three assists as the Pirates beat the Sound Tigers 5-3 tonight.
snarktacular 01-10-2008, 05:28 PM Ryan and Salcido named to AHL All-Stars. Perhaps another reason why Ryan was sent down?
Although part of the reason might be because the AHL makes it Canada vs the world, so Ryan might have only made it because he's part of the world.
wildcat48 01-10-2008, 05:29 PM Ryan was voted as a starter for the game, too!
Static 01-10-2008, 06:16 PM Ryan was voted as a starter for the game, too!
Wildcat, what do you make of Brian Salcido's season so far? Can he translate this kind of production (obviously not a ppg pace) into the NHL?
wildcat48 01-11-2008, 05:06 AM Ryan and Salcido named to All Star Classic; Ebbett and Platt snubbed
What amounts to no more than a big up yours is the fact that Andrew Ebbett and Geoff Platt were left off the Canadian AHL roster. Both are having solid seasons and they have been at or near the top in several major categories in the AHL.
Read More>>> (http://mvn.com/ahl-pirates/2008/01/11/ryan-and-salcido-named-to-all-star-classic-ebbett-and-platt-snubbed/)
wildcat48 01-11-2008, 05:15 AM Wildcat, what do you make of Brian Salcido's season so far? Can he translate this kind of production (obviously not a ppg pace) into the NHL?
I think Salcido has been the Pirates best defenseman to date this season. He started off a little slow, but since about 10 game mark, he's been lights out for Portland. Actually, I thought he was the Pirates best defender at the end of the last season once he became acclimated to the pro game and its nuances. He certainly could be a serviceable defenseman in the NHL and he will even provide a his share of offense. He's a great QB on the PP with a shot that screams (Chris Pronger) and he has really good vision (Scott Niedermayer). Playing with Weinrich last season helped him defensively and that's continued this year. My only complaint is he's not tough enough, but that comes with time.
TheJoeMan 01-11-2008, 03:10 PM Ryan and Salcido named to All Star Classic; Ebbett and Platt snubbed
Read More>>> (http://mvn.com/ahl-pirates/2008/01/11/ryan-and-salcido-named-to-all-star-classic-ebbett-and-platt-snubbed/)
Wow...
Are there really that many better Canadian players in the AHL this season? That blows me away. Especially Platt. Every time I look up game day stats he seems to have a goal or two. That's too bad. Congrats to Bobby and Brian however. Gotta love that SoCal contingent proven their worth.
wildcat48 01-13-2008, 04:19 AM Levasseur back in the mix
Gerald Coleman is out because of lingering problems due to a concussion he suffered at the beginning of the season. He’s only seen the net once in the last seven games for the Pirates and Dino wasn’t specific as to when the problems occurred, but did say that it was a very precautionary scratch.
Read More>>> (http://mvn.com/ahl-pirates/2008/01/13/levasseur-back-in-the-mix/)
Darius Dangleaitis 01-13-2008, 06:33 PM What do you guys think of Levasseur? Future starter for you guys? I'm just curious cause I'm watching the Lowell-Portland game. Seems pretty solid and that'd certainly be a steal for you guys seeing as he's a 7th rounder.
Although Bergfors just roofed one on him:naughty:.
wildcat48 01-15-2008, 06:58 AM Starting this week, the Pirates midseason report cards will be released by the Portland Press Herald (Today), Journal Tribune (Thursday) and MVN (Friday).
Pirates showing they can improve
An upsurge by the offense and special teams has helped Portland rekindle its playoff hopes.
The Portland Pirates reached the midpoint of their schedule over the weekend, and they're a much better team than at the start of the season.
After the first two weeks, Portland was mired in last place in the AHL Atlantic Division after losing four of its first five games.
During the past two weeks, the Pirates have won 7 of 8 to climb into second place in the seven-team division with a 25-13-2-2 record. Portland trails Providence, which has the league's best record, by nine points in the division standings. The top four teams in the Atlantic Division qualify for the playoffs.
While the offense and defense have been fairly consistent since the start of the season, special teams have been major areas of concern for the Pirates and must improve if they are to make the playoffs in April.
http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/includes/global2/cms/pph/080114/photos/080114-1384542742-l.jpg
Link>>> (http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/story.php?id=162409&ac=PHspt)
GWF82 01-15-2008, 11:02 PM Will McKenna get the majority of starts while Coleman is out ya think? Top 15 in the league stats-wise and has improved as he got used to playing up there. I really hope one day someone gives him a legitimate shot at making a big club.
wildcat48 01-17-2008, 08:19 PM "Pirates receive passing marks at season's midpoint"
Journal Tribune - 01/17/08
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wildcat48 01-17-2008, 08:21 PM Rumors are the Ducks are looking for a number one goaltender for the Pirates. Not sure what's out there, maybe that's where the Montreal-Anaheim rumors are coming from.
McKenna has been very impressive for the Pirates this season, Coleman has just been too inconsistent and it's really McKenna's job to lose this point.
GWF82 01-18-2008, 12:17 PM Do you think that McKenna could possibly get a contract from the Ducks? It appears that Gerald is still having the concussion problems and as someone that played the position thats something that could have him messed up beyond this season even.
I follow the Pirates from afar (here in Tampa) because of McKenna and just actually saw thats he's in the Top 10 in pretty much all goaltending categories in the AHL.
wildcat48 01-19-2008, 04:28 AM McKenna has been amazing. He's done nothing, but impress me all season long and it's very possible that because of this season he could get an NHL/AHL contract. I'm not sure it will be with Anaheim, but somebody will sign him this summer.
Big Daddy 01-23-2008, 12:14 AM Hello there again WC48, can you give me your report on Mikkelson and Festerling? Curious to see if Festerling is still a rock on D and throwing the body. Also curious to see if Mikkelsons hands and hockey sense have caught up to his feet.
Thanks!
Kevin Forbes 01-29-2008, 12:46 AM Tonight was AHL All-Star Night
Andrew Ebbett had a goal and an assist to help the Canadian All Stars beat PlanetUSA in a 9-8 shootout win.
Bobby Ryan and Brian Salcido played for PlanetUSA. Ryan had no points and did not score on his shootout chance, while Salcido notched a goal.
Also of note, former Ducks prospects Brett Skinner and Clay Wilson played for Canada and PlanetUSA respectively. Skinner had an assist for the winning team, while Wilson had a helper for the losing squad.
Spankatola Jamnuts 01-29-2008, 01:04 AM How is Ryan looking these days?
Bobby Ryan Getzlaf 01-29-2008, 04:32 AM How did Ebbett get it the game? I thought he got snubbed. Who sat out for him?
Kevin Forbes 01-29-2008, 09:02 AM How did Ebbett get it the game? I thought he got snubbed. Who sat out for him?
Ebbett was named after players like Clarke MacArthur, Pascal Pelletier and Rich Peverley had to miss the game due to being recalled.
Press Release: http://www.oursportscentral.com/services/releases/?id=3584624
CHRDANHUTCH 01-29-2008, 02:17 PM essentially it was Pelletier, that Ebbett replaced, not to mention he'd played there last season, a rare cheer for a non-Senator.
CHRDANHUTCH 01-29-2008, 04:38 PM It appears Anaheim is heading for Stockton next season, the AHL confirmed that Buffalo is on its way in as the rumor that Buffalo has officially split from Rochester was confirmed.
If this is indeed the case, I'd like to thank Kevin for his outstanding contributions to the Pirates' thread and wish him well for whomever the affiliate is to become.
Kevin Forbes 01-29-2008, 04:48 PM I'm like a dirty sock, you can't get rid of me!
Seriously though, I'm HF's Anaheim writer, so I cover the Ducks prospects wherever they land, be it Stockton, Portland, Vancouver, Kladno etc.
With that said, I think Chris Roy deserves kudos if the Ducks choose another affiliate. It was a pleasure (as well as filling an important hole in my coverage) to hear first-hand information on the AHL on a regular basis.
CHRDANHUTCH 01-29-2008, 05:20 PM well in case that happens (it's rumored likely, if we choose to believe the reports) we'd like to thank you for your efforts on those prospects before they arrived in Portland, Kevin:thumbu:
snarktacular 01-29-2008, 05:27 PM Stockton? Seriously? Isn't that Edmonton's ECHL affiliate? Is there any credible source on that? Would it piss off Edmonton fans even more?
CHRDANHUTCH 01-29-2008, 05:54 PM Stockton? Seriously? Isn't that Edmonton's ECHL affiliate? Is there any credible source on that? Would it piss off Edmonton fans even more?
the E is different though, IMHO, None of us really want to see the Ducks leave......
The other option is for Anaheim to buy the dormant Oilers' AHL franchise, but that appears to be Dallas having that inside track within two years.
Paul4587 01-29-2008, 06:14 PM It appears Anaheim is heading for Stockton next season, the AHL confirmed that Buffalo is on its way in as the rumor that Buffalo has officially split from Rochester was confirmed.
If this is indeed the case, I'd like to thank Kevin for his outstanding contributions to the Pirates' thread and wish him well for whomever the affiliate is to become.
Wow if Anaheim chose to move their primary affiliate to the ECHL I can't see our prospects developing very well, that would be an incredibly stupid move.
TheJoeMan 01-29-2008, 07:03 PM Wow if Anaheim chose to move their primary affiliate to the ECHL I can't see our prospects developing very well, that would be an incredibly stupid move.
But than again, other West Coast teams could follow suit and pick up other ECHL teams out west as their prime affiliates as well. There's four teams on the west coast and if they all had ECHL teams as their affiliates the talent pool in that division would be so bad. The main thing is that our prospects are getting ice-time. Sure the talent level drops off quite a bit but the ice-time is key. I have no problem with this notion.
CHRDANHUTCH 01-29-2008, 07:21 PM But than again, other West Coast teams could follow suit and pick up other ECHL teams out west as their prime affiliates as well. There's four teams on the west coast and if they all had ECHL teams as their affiliates the talent pool in that division would be so bad. The main thing is that our prospects are getting ice-time. Sure the talent level drops off quite a bit but the ice-time is key. I have no problem with this notion.
only Los Angeles is looking to put there ECHL Franchise in CA, I doubt San Jose will after trying Fresno.
Duckstudd269 01-29-2008, 07:29 PM If the Ducks do leave Portland, which would be a bad move, I would like to say thanks to wildcat for all the info he gave us.
Anyway the only place I want to see the Ducks affiliate go is OKC, so I can go watch some of the games. Although I doubt that happens since we're probably going to get an NBA team instead.
snarktacular 01-30-2008, 12:26 PM So I don't understand much about the AHL, but what's the deal with Edmonton having a dormant franchise? How does "having a franchise" work, is it like having a prospect's rights, each team owns 1? What exactly is a franchise? Why were they allowed to affiliate with Springfield if they have their own franchise already? If a team wanted its own AHL affiliate, would they have to give Edmonton something for the rights of the franchise? Because that seems pretty cheap if you ask me.
So I don't understand much about the AHL, but what's the deal with Edmonton having a dormant franchise? How does "having a franchise" work, is it like having a prospect's rights, each team owns 1? What exactly is a franchise? Why were they allowed to affiliate with Springfield if they have their own franchise already? If a team wanted its own AHL affiliate, would they have to give Edmonton something for the rights of the franchise? Because that seems pretty cheap if you ask me.
Doesn't make a lot of sense does it? There should be a use it or lose it policy???
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