Anaheim Ducks Prospect Tracker 2007/2008 [Archive]

Kevin Forbes

10-09-2007, 09:43 PM

I saw Swan on September 22nd and MacMillan, Swan and Morrison on October 6th.

Swan - Probably won't be the captain of the team, but should wear an A. It's also possible that the team would be rotating captaincy between two players, but again, in my mind, neither of those guys is Swan. He's looking a little slow on the ice, not so much his overall speed, as much as his first step and acceleration. Still is taking penalties at bad times. He never lets up though, crashing the net and dishing out body checks. Now that the team has all their players back, the powerplay will no doubt prosper and he'll take his usual spot in front of the net. So far, Swan has 4 goals, 9 points and 13 PIM in 9 games.

MacMillan - Saw him in his second game back with the team. He was also suffering from the flu. That said, he didn't look too bad for missing a month of hockey (with his concussion, he wasn't even able to work out). Still great patience with the puck, a nice wrist shot and beautiful passing. His timing seemed a bit off a times and his conditioning is obviously still a work in progress. Improved as the game went on it seems. So far in 3 games, he has 2 goals and 5 assists. Not a bad start. ;)

Morrison - Played well in a 6-3 loss to Halifax. Showed excellent speed, scoring a shorthanded goal and having another dangerous shorthanded rush. Surprised the defence with his speed. He was always fishing around in front of the net, which is surprising considering his size and the big boys on the Halifax blue line. He's got 7 goals and 17 points in 9 games with the Rocket, good enough for top spot in the league.

chaosrevolver

10-14-2007, 12:23 AM

Matt Beleskey
http://www.hockeysfuture.com/players/m_beleskey.jpg
GM: 7
G: 6 (T-15th)
A: 9 (T-11th)
P: 15 (T-10th)
PIM: 12 (T-92nd)
+/-: +5 (T-28th)

Eric Tangradi
http://www.iceline.info/Flyers/news/tangradi.jpg
GM: 7
G: 6 (T-15th)
A: 7 (T-26th)
P: 13 (T-16th)
PIM: 10 (T-126th)
+/-: +4 (T-43rd)

lux_interior

10-14-2007, 12:25 AM

Watched the first period of Minnesota/Michigan. Mitera looked okay, but not that great.

Edit: I also watched parts of the 2nd and 3rd. He had no points, and took an interference penalty in the first, which led to (I think) a Minnesota PP goal.

It is really early in the season though (2nd game).

bradycook14

10-14-2007, 01:45 PM

im from pei and bretty morrison is tearing it up in the q,lets hope we can draft chris doyle too this year:)!

Steadfast

10-14-2007, 03:25 PM

Don't forget Doughty, Stamkos or Pietrangelo with Edmonton's 1st rounder. :D

I'm jealous of you guys having that pick. They're terrible.

Randall Graves*

10-14-2007, 06:44 PM

Stamkos+Getzlaf down the middle would be sick.

chaosrevolver

10-14-2007, 08:32 PM

Stamkos+Getzlaf down the middle would be sick.
So would Doughty or Pietrangelo+Beauchemin+Pronger

chaosrevolver

10-14-2007, 08:54 PM

Matt Beleskey is on pace for:
GM: 68
G: 60
A: 77
P: 137
PIM: 102

And he is the captain of the Bulls.

Eric Tangradi is on pace for:
GM: 68
G: 51
A: 60
P: 111
PIM: 119

And is on pace for 91 more points than he had last year.

Randall Graves*

10-15-2007, 05:07 PM

chaosrevolver

10-15-2007, 06:35 PM

Well Chaos what do you think of Doughty and Pietranglo since i'm guessing you've been able to see them play?

Beleskey is on pace to completely shatter his offensive numbers from last year, he's 8th in scoring

Also Logan MacMillan is off to a good start, 8 points in 5 games.
Drew Doughty is on pace for:
GM: 68
G: 23
A: 76
P: 99
PIM: 151

Comments: An extremely responsible, smart defenseman. He seems to always make the right play. If your 6"0 your usually not compared to Chris Pronger, but from watching Doughty play, that's the first player that comes to mind. The difference is I think Doughty could be better. I see Doughty having the potential to be a 60-80 point defenseman while playing very responsible defense. The advantage he has over Pronger is that he has good speed and tends to have pretty good discipline. He shows alot of leadership which tends to make you think that he will be a future captain. As of this point the top-3 will be any order of Stamkos, Doughty and Pietrangelo.

Alex Pietrangelo is on pace for:
GM: 68
G: 41
A: 75
P: 116
PIM: 143

Comments: Alex reminds me alot of a few players. To me he reminds me of a Wade Redden/Mattias Ohlund/Lubomir Visnovsky. He's a good skater with a great shot and fantastic vision. At 6"4 he isnt afraid to use his body either. Very responsible in his own end and has great work ethic. Keeps up on his pace and he will be an easy bet for top-3 and will battle it out with Drew Doughty for top d-man in the draft class. I think he could be a future 60+ point defenseman.

I would also like us to take a look at Edward Pasquale towards maybe the 4th round or so if hes still availble. He's plays for the same Junior team as Matt Beleskey and Eric Tangradi. He has kind of landed a backup role but its almost like a platoon role.

Edward Pasquale's OHL Career Stats:
GM: 10
W-L-OL-SL: 5-2-0-1
GAA: 2.60
SV%: 92%
SO: 1

He has all the tools, trust me. I think if we can get him 4th round or later he could turn out to be a major steal.

Randall Graves*

10-16-2007, 04:16 AM

two 17 year old defensemen on pace for 100 points is sick. If the Ducks can get one of the top 3 picks I don't care which of the 3 they end up with. I've seen Stamkos but not the defensemen, can't wait for the WJC's

chaosrevolver

10-17-2007, 10:40 PM

Beleskey and Tangradi had assists tonight

Johnny Danger

10-18-2007, 10:39 AM

anyone following janne pesonen in finnland?

Pepper

10-18-2007, 10:49 AM

13GP 8G 8A 16PTS +5 8min, 4th in overall scoring, averages 19.42mins per game.

Johnny Danger

10-18-2007, 11:38 AM

is he developing?

Randall Graves*

10-21-2007, 04:40 AM

13GP 8G 8A 16PTS +5 8min, 4th in overall scoring, averages 19.42mins per game.
I'm kind of disappointed he was not brought over for camp this year

Finnpin

10-21-2007, 12:58 PM

is he developing?Well he is still a big diver so I guess no :D

He is one of the most lethal forwards in Finland and maybe next year he will try there.

chaosrevolver

10-23-2007, 09:02 PM

Eric Tangradi
GP: 11
G: 7
A: 10
P: 17
+/-: +4
PIM: 16

Matt Beleskey
GP: 11
G: 7
A: 11
P: 18
+/-: +7
PIM: 21

chaosrevolver

10-24-2007, 11:26 PM

Eric had 2 goals tonight.

Eric Tangradi is on pace for:
GM: 68
G: 51
A: 57
P: 108
+/-: +28
PIM: 91
PPG: 11

Matt Beleskey is on pace for:
GM: 68
G: 40
A: 62
P: 102
+/-: +28
PIM: 130
PPG: 23
SHG: 6

Whitesnake

10-25-2007, 10:02 AM

Another Hab fan here....

I'm a big Q follower and just wanted to point out the amazing start of your 5th draft pick in 2007, Brett Morrison, even though he's 20-year-old, is #2 in points in the Q so far. In 16 games, he has 9 goals and 17 assists. He's not playing for a contender, PEI being 7-8 so he is doing a good job.

bandolero

10-25-2007, 06:55 PM

Janne Pesonen leads overall scoring in finnish elite league (SM-liiga). He has scored 10 goals and 12 assists in 16 games (+8). He has been as good as expected, meaning he has started from where he was last spring. I have to say I was also quite suprised that Anaheim didn't call him to rookie camp, I mean do they think he is going to get any better here in Europe? Glad though, it's good to watch him one more year, hated by opponents loved by owns (or how ever you say it :help:).

edit. he leads goal scoring and in assists as well

Randall Graves*

10-25-2007, 07:33 PM

I would really like to know why Pesonen didn't even come for camp, does he want to come over? Is the team even that aware of how wells he's done?

Anyone see MacMillan play this year? he's off to a good start 9 points in 6 games.

bandolero

10-26-2007, 05:16 AM

I would really like to know why Pesonen didn't even come for camp, does he want to come over?

Yes he is eager to come over. Last spring we (fans) were sure that he is gone. We were suprised that Anaheim didn't show any interest on Pesonen. Pesonen isn't a type of player Carlyle prefers so perhaps that is the reason for lack of interest. Almost certain is that next year Pesonen will be in NA, if not in Anaheim then he will be in some other organization

Finnpin

10-26-2007, 06:39 AM

Yes he is eager to come over. Last spring we (fans) were sure that he is gone. We were suprised that Anaheim didn't show any interest on Pesonen. Pesonen isn't a type of player Carlyle prefers so perhaps that is the reason for lack of interest. Almost certain is that next year Pesonen will be in NA, if not in Anaheim then he will be in some other organizationWell our new national team head coach and head coach of Jokerit thinks Pesonen is the biggest diver in the league and Shedden is a good friend with Carlyle so... :sarcasm:

Randall Graves*

10-27-2007, 04:38 AM

Tangradi had two assists on friday, which gives him 21 points, exceeding his total from all of last year. He's tied for 12th in scoring with Stamkos who has played 2 more games.

I watched Michigan play, Mitera looks good, seemed like he was on the ice half the game. His ability with the puck offensive seems improved to me, especially on the PP he showed good poise and never rushed anything, his assist was a result of him getting the puck off of a faceoff waiting for the traffic and then fired a wrist shot that was deflected in. He was really good on the PK, blocked several shots.

chaosrevolver

10-27-2007, 12:56 PM

chaosrevolver

10-27-2007, 11:01 PM

Beleskey had a goal and Tangradi had a goal and an assist tonight.

LaLaLaprise

10-28-2007, 02:11 AM

MacMillan had a hat-trick tonight...

7gp
5g
7a
12pts

Randall Graves*

10-28-2007, 06:47 AM

MacMillan had a hat-trick tonight...

7gp
5g
7a
12pts
How is he playing? Showing any effects of the concussion?

-300*C

10-28-2007, 11:14 AM

Janne Pesonen (the guy in my avatar) so far:
17 GP
10 G + 13 A = 23
+9

The stats are worthless as somebody already mentioned them above, but I know for a fact that Anaheim did show interest in Pesonen, but I believe they didn't reach an agreement and so he wasn't invited to the camp.

Bulls guy

10-30-2007, 05:22 PM

Matt Beleskey has been selected to play in the ADT Canada Russia Challenge.:handclap:
He is presently sitting 3rd in team scoring with 20 pts. in 14 games.
This is a series of 6 games games featuring Top Canadian and Russian junior stars that is used to help pick Team Canada's selection roster for the World Junior Championships.
This will Beleskey's second time playing in a international competetion as he represented Canada at the 2005 World Under 18 Hockey Championships.
Keep up the hard work Beleskey.

Kevin Forbes

10-30-2007, 05:55 PM

Kevin Forbes

11-01-2007, 03:55 PM

Just a quick mention, figured you guys would be interested in seeing what MacMillan's and Swan's nicknames are on the Mooseheads now:

CHARLIE CONWAY (Bryce Swan) and ADAM BANKS (Logan MacMillan) - Charlie and Adam (for short) are both draft picks of the Anaheim Ducks, so it was only logical to name them after characters in the classic Disney movie Mighty Ducks.

It's a running joke between the two, though Swan is more often called Swanny and MacMillan either Lou or Logey.
http://www.hfxnews.ca/index.cfm?sid=75069&sc=394

-300*C

11-03-2007, 06:26 PM

Pesonen so far
20GP
10G + 16A = 26P
+10

snarktacular

11-03-2007, 06:43 PM

Some nice stats for Pesonen. I just find it kind of funny that half the reason why we drafted him in 04 was because he was older, so he would hopefully be playing sooner. Yet he only seemed to take a step toward producing last year.

I just realized he's roughly the same age as Smirnov.

Randall Graves*

11-03-2007, 07:04 PM

Mark Mitera won the CCHA defensemen of the week award last week, played again on CSTV on friday looks better every game imo.

TheJoeMan

11-03-2007, 09:00 PM

Mark Mitera won the CCHA defensemen of the week award last week, played again on CSTV on friday looks better every game imo.

I think he's going to be the best D-man we've ever cultivated. Not a terribly difficult thing to do considering the benchmark is Ruslan Salei. No offense to Rusty, he's one of my all time favorites. I saw him at the prospect camp and he really impressed me even though none of those kids were really trying. I look forward to seeing what he can do for the Ducks in the future.

hockeydemon05

11-03-2007, 09:26 PM

D-man we've ever cultivated.

Would Smid be considered as being cultivated by the Ducks?

TheJoeMan

11-04-2007, 12:58 AM

Would Smid be considered as being cultivated by the Ducks?

I wouldn't. Never played for us and was only in our system for a year.

Randall Graves*

11-04-2007, 04:37 AM

Bulls won again...2 more assists for Tangradi, Beleskey was scoreless. You have to think Tangradi has a good shot at representing team USA at the WJC's..

chaosrevolver

11-04-2007, 11:01 AM

Bulls won again...2 more assists for Tangradi, Beleskey was scoreless. You have to think Tangradi has a good shot at representing team USA at the WJC's..Id say hes almost a guarentee barring injury. Hes big, fast, great finisher and a strong playmaker.

Hockey Duckie

11-04-2007, 12:54 PM

Would Smid be considered as being cultivated by the Ducks?

Not the NHL product of Smid. Any product created from Anaheim and then gets transplanted to Edmonton becomes un-cultivated. First Lupul, then Smid, and then Penner. But Smid would have been best served staying here with the Ducks only because the past couple of years the minor league and NHL team share the same direction and style of play.

Bulls guy

11-05-2007, 03:27 PM

Bulls won again...2 more assists for Tangradi, Beleskey was scoreless. You have to think Tangradi has a good shot at representing team USA at the WJC's..

Beleskey was held scorelees but contributed with some big hits throughout the game and a nice scrap at the end of the first period.

I can see Tangradi getting an invite to the camp for the US Juniors but not sure if he will make the cut. If you look at last year they ignored Ryan and Sagunetti both were American born players playing in the OHL who were having good years. It seems lately they are going with more of the kids that are in their US programs.
Just my opinion.

TheJoeMan

11-05-2007, 06:56 PM

Beleskey was held scorelees but contributed with some big hits throughout the game and a nice scrap at the end of the first period.

I can see Tangradi getting an invite to the camp for the US Juniors but not sure if he will make the cut. If you look at last year they ignored Ryan and Sagunetti both were American born players playing in the OHL who were having good years. It seems lately they are going with more of the kids that are in their US programs.
Just my opinion.

And look how they finished last year. USA Hockey needs to stock their team with the most talented players they have available.

chaosrevolver

11-05-2007, 07:09 PM

And look how they finished last year. USA Hockey needs to stock their team with the most talented players they have available.And I think Tangradi could definetly fit on the 3rd or 4th line. He can play both wings so that wouldnt be a problem.

Kevin Forbes

11-05-2007, 10:01 PM

Just some info from my notes on the last Mooseheads game I took in.

MacMillan is being played on the wing with Tomas Knotek (a 2008 eligible) at center and Voracek on the other wing. It's an interesting decision, as Knotek isn't that great on faceoffs (he is improving). I am hoping to ask the Mooseheads coaching staff about it soon. MacMillan is playing a lot better as he gets up to speed in the lineup. The line itself is a pleasure to watch, speed and chemistry throughout, they weave the puck back and forth at a high speed. A few people in the press box have mentioned in passing that MacMillan needs to work on his skating, but at this level at least, he's smart enough to usually be in the right place at the right time.

Swan is getting his chances, but the results don't seem to be there yet. I've been expecting more from him. He's still contributing in other ways, physical play along the boards, cycling the puck down low, but he's just not getting it done offensively. Or at least not as much as I expected going into the season. He's been playing on a line with Ryan Hillier, a Rangers prospect who has been scoring goals with impunity and never hesitates to take a shot on net, so it might be just a case of not enough pucks to go around.

Randall Graves*

11-07-2007, 01:28 AM

Bulls guy

11-09-2007, 11:23 AM

Kevin Forbes

11-09-2007, 11:37 AM

Beleskey has 5 points in the past 2 games and was named the games 3rd star in both.
He has been playing alot more physical as well, reminding of his early days with the Bulls. He would rather try and go through someone than go around them.
Does anyone know what the exact date is that he has to sign a contract before he goes back into the draft?

I believe it's June 1st.

Randall Graves*

11-09-2007, 06:37 PM

Kevin Forbes

11-09-2007, 06:56 PM

Ducks will sign him, Kevin would he fall under the 50 contract rule? If so I think that could be a factor in why Drats was waived, to open more slots to sign some of our picks.

He'll only fall under the 50 contract rule when he's in his overage season.

For example: last season, 20-year-old Festerling counted against the rule, despite the fact he was playing in junior. Meanwhile, teammate Mikkelson also had a contract, but did not, because he was only 19.

With that said, it is possible (if Anaheim is looking at clearing contract room) this could be a prelude to signing Swan. Swan is in his overage year as a 20 year old with the Mooseheads, but I don't believe he's signed to a deal yet. I am saying this just as pure unadulterated speculation, as I have heard nothing on either side of the coin up here.

It's worth noting that waiving Kondratiev doesn't clear him from the team's 50 contract limit, he needs to go to another team or be bought out. Plus if Lacouture was truly released outright from his deal, I'm not sure if he would continue to count or not.

AdamBanks8

11-12-2007, 07:02 PM

What kind of player, or who would you compare these Duck prospects' potential skill set to be like? This is to the people that have seen our prospects play this season. Do any of them have top line skill? Thanks in advance.

Matt Beleskey
Eric Tangradi
Morrison
Bryce Swan
Pesonen
Logan MacMillan

bleuer

11-15-2007, 06:05 PM

Didn't know where to put this...

RoadRunners Acquire Lynx Goalie David McKee

The Phoenix RoadRunners of the ECHL, a proud affiliate of the San Jose Sharks and the Worcester Sharks, have acquired goaltender David McKee from the Augusta Lynx in exchange for defenseman Nick Toneys and future considerations.

Link (http://www.phxroadrunners.com/news/recentheadlines/index.html?article_id=579)

chaosrevolver

11-15-2007, 06:23 PM

chaosrevolver

11-17-2007, 12:43 AM

Tangradi had a hat-trick tonight while Beleskey had two goals in a 6-3 Belleville win.

-300*C

11-24-2007, 01:40 PM

Janne Pesonen registered a hat trick and an assist against HIFK Helsinki today. Now 14 goals and 19 assists for 33 points in 26 games so far. :yo:

edit:
He's averaged 20:05 min of ice time and is a +15.

racer34

11-25-2007, 03:42 PM

does anyone know how the ducks goalie prospects are getting on espically modig and stefaniszin.:):):):)

Kevin Forbes

11-25-2007, 06:57 PM

Modig is struggling to say the least. He's seen action in 7 games and has a unenviable GAA of 4.10 with a save percentage of .861. He's lost his starting gig to veteran Gusten Tornqvist who has played in 15 games so far for Lulea. As a whole, Lulea has had problems all year round defensively. Their record is 7-13-2, tied for second worst in the league and despite a respectable 54 goals for, their 73 goals against is the worst in the league.

Stefaniszin is also having troubles. He's played in just two games with a GAA of 6.95 and a save percentage of .835. His team, the Iserlohn Roosters are 10-5-2-6, buoyed by the play of Norm Maracle, the team's starting goaltender. HockeyDb.com lists him possibly transferred down to Germany's 2nd tier league, playing for Landsberg 2000 EV, but there is no record of this anywhere else.

That's all I can dig up right now.

Kevin Forbes

11-26-2007, 09:32 AM

Interesting situation with MacMillan to mention briefly.
On Sunday, he didn't play the second half of the second period of Halifax's game against Baie-Comeau and then didn't come back out for the third. The team announced shortly after the game that he was going back to PEI for a few days to rest, but would be back for the game on Friday. I know from talking with Coach Russell prior to the road trip that MacMillan has been fighting some nagging injuries all year long. He's also on his eighth game in 12 days after missing the first month of the season, including a lot of training camp. It appears to have all caught up on him.

gscorer

11-26-2007, 06:59 PM

When will Ducks have to sign Pesonen if they want him, when he will become free agent?

I think if he is going to come to North America, he will come next year.

Kevin Forbes

11-26-2007, 07:06 PM

When will Ducks have to sign Pesonen if they want him, when he will become free agent?

I think if he is going to come to North America, he will come next year.

June 1st, 2008 is the deadline for 2004 draft picks. It's grandfathered in, as can be seen on this page: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/bmarshall63/payroll.html

As a 25-year-old (26 in May 2008), he can only sign a one-year contract.

racer34

11-27-2007, 09:08 AM

thanks kevin its a shame to see 2 of our goalie prospects struggilng.we still have levasseur who is my favorite goalie propspect .:):):)

SeasonTicket

11-29-2007, 09:49 AM

Nice write up about Belesky on the ADT Russian game he played in on Monday

http://www.ontariohockeyleague.com/news/?sub=&id=4428

-300*C

12-02-2007, 08:20 AM

Pesonen 28 GP
average ice time per game 20:13 min
15G (of which 5 are game winning goals) + 19A = 34P
+16

chaosrevolver

12-04-2007, 11:06 PM

Load a ******** that Tangradi doesnt make Team USA. They will regret this move.

Bulls guy

12-06-2007, 09:58 AM

Beleskey scores a Natural hat trick last night and named the games first star.:handclap::handclap:

Randall Graves*

12-06-2007, 07:28 PM

I am not surprised Tangradi was left off but he certainly has the talent to be on the roster, we know what happens with USA hockey, unless it's obvious they take their NCAA guys and that's just how it is.

Paul4587

12-06-2007, 07:56 PM

Was Mitera named to USAs roster?

Kevin Forbes

12-06-2007, 08:34 PM

Was Mitera named to USAs roster?

He's too old.

Bulls guy

12-08-2007, 01:05 AM

Matt Beleskey with another Hat Trick tonight in back to back games.:handclap::handclap:
That gives him 22 so far in 29 games
I think he is trying to prove a point to Hockey Canada that they made a mistake by not selecting him to the try out roster for the juniors.
Keep up the hard work Matt!

snarktacular

12-08-2007, 01:50 AM

Randall Graves*

12-08-2007, 06:30 AM

Bulls guy

12-08-2007, 12:17 PM

Man Beleskey's been putting up some great numbers. He's got 42 points and 22 goals in 29 games. And it sounds like he's a good character guy and plenty gritty.

Maybe he has more offensive upside than we were expecting? I think he was originally projected as a 3rd/4th line character guy, could he actually become a gritty 2nd liner? Sort of like a lesser Kunitz?

To Bulls guy, how much of Beleskey's points is him and how much of it is his team? Bellville seems like a high scoring team, and Matthias seems to be really ripping it up. What can you tell us about his play?

I think he might be one of my anticipated Ducks prospects.

IMO I would have to say that he earns his points through hard work. His style is to crash and bang and cause havoc in front of the goalie. He has been known to have some highlight reel goals in his years here.
He has been playing on a line with Matthias for the past 2 seasons so they tend to know where each other are so it sure helps.I would also give him credit for alot of the points that Matthias has also. He has a great set of hands and a very hard shot at the age of 17 he was clocked at 97mph at the top prospects game.
He is true character guy and has the respect from his teammates and from peers in the league. He was named alternate captain at 17 and when the captain went down he wore the C for 30+ games.
I hope this answers your question he was definetly a steal in the fourth round IMO.

chaosrevolver

12-08-2007, 03:19 PM

IMO I would have to say that he earns his points through hard work. His style is to crash and bang and cause havoc in front of the goalie. He has been known to have some highlight reel goals in his years here.
He has been playing on a line with Matthias for the past 2 seasons so they tend to know where each other are so it sure helps.I would also give him credit for alot of the points that Matthias has also. He has a great set of hands and a very hard shot at the age of 17 he was clocked at 97mph at the top prospects game.
He is true character guy and has the respect from his teammates and from peers in the league. He was named alternate captain at 17 and when the captain went down he wore the C for 30+ games.
I hope this answers your question he was definetly a steal in the fourth round IMO.Yeah definetly agree. Season tickets and have been watching him for a while and he still amazes me.

chaosrevolver

12-09-2007, 01:42 AM

Tangradi had 2 assists and Beleskey had an assist of his own tonight.

Bulls guy

12-17-2007, 11:50 AM

sammyp

12-17-2007, 10:18 PM

The OHl is at their mid way point and here is how 2 of the Ducks prospects are making out.

Matt Beleskey 33 games- 22G,23A, +15, 69PMS Avg. 1.36 ppg

Eric Tangradi 33 games- 15G,25A,+9 33PMS Avg.121 ppg

I'm getting excited about the numbers Tangradi's putting up. Looks like we've stolen ourselves another power forward.

chaosrevolver

12-17-2007, 10:22 PM

I'm getting excited about the numbers Tangradi's putting up. Looks like we've stolen ourselves another power forward.Best thing is, hes a great team player. In my opinion as the leadership skills of a future captain.

Sanderson

12-21-2007, 02:52 PM

Stefaniszin is also having troubles. He's played in just two games with a GAA of 6.95 and a save percentage of .835. His team, the Iserlohn Roosters are 10-5-2-6, buoyed by the play of Norm Maracle, the team's starting goaltender. HockeyDb.com lists him possibly transferred down to Germany's 2nd tier league, playing for Landsberg 2000 EV, but there is no record of this anywhere else.

Stefaniszin will be loaned to Essen (2nd division) from now on. Definately better than sitting on the bench in the DEL and still quite a bit of an improvement from his situation last season, where he played for the worst team of the third division.

20 year old Daniar Dshunussow, who was Berlin's backup last season (while Stefaniszin was no.3), is in the same situation. Both went to other teams to play more, yet ended up playing 2 games so far, even though both coaches are telling everybody how much they have improved.

Young German goalies are generally in a bad position. Those few DEL-teams who use such young goalies as a backup are usually the ones who have an exceptional starting goalie, so they hardly get any playing time. The really good teams from 2nd division want to play in the DEL, so there is lots of pressure to win and they put more trust in experienced goalies as well.

Pwnasaurus

12-21-2007, 03:13 PM

Stefaniszin will be loaned to Essen (2nd division) from now on. Definately better than sitting on the bench in the DEL and still quite a bit of an improvement from his situation last season, where he played for the worst team of the third division.

20 year old Daniar Dshunussow, who was Berlin's backup last season (while Stefaniszin was no.3), is in the same situation. Both went to other teams to play more, yet ended up playing 2 games so far, even though both coaches are telling everybody how much they have improved.

Young German goalies are generally in a bad position. Those few DEL-teams who use such young goalies as a backup are usually the ones who have an exceptional starting goalie, so they hardly get any playing time. The really good teams from 2nd division want to play in the DEL, so there is lots of pressure to win and they put more trust in experienced goalies as well.

I love this site. Where else can you get information like this without having to search for it. Awesome.

-300*C

12-21-2007, 03:43 PM

Pesonen 1+1 today, so far:
34 GP
18 G + 22 A = 40 points
+16

Elvstrand

12-21-2007, 06:57 PM

Mattias Modig is in for a real sophomore slump this year unfortunately.

With Luleå HF in the SEL:

2006/2007: GP: 32 GAA: 2.53 SVS%: 91.5%

2007/2008: GP: 7 GAA: 4.10 SVS%:86.1%

-300*C

12-27-2007, 04:54 PM

Pesonen today 2+0, altogether
35 GP
20 G + 22 A = 42 P
+ 19
average ice time game, 20:33 min

edit: and 1+1 today, giving him 44P in 36 GP this season. He also has a 5-game scoring streak going on.

snarktacular

12-29-2007, 11:31 PM

Brian Burke draftee Oscar Moller scored a goal in the WJC against Canada today. Or so Pierre McGuired claimed. Ha.

I figured I'd post the stats of all our top 20 prospects. But I took out the goalies, the guys on the Ducks, and added a few random other guys.
| Name | league | GP | G | A | P | +/- | PIM
1 | Mitera | CCHA | 19 | 1 | 5 | 6 | 16 | 28
2 | MacMillan | QMJHL | 20 | 9 | 14 | 23 | 11 | 18
3 | Mikkelson | AHL | 34 | 3 | 6 | 9 | -3 | 26
4 | Swan | QMJHL | 37 | 14 | 15 | 29 | -7 | 58
5 | Salcido | AHL | 31 | 8 | 23 | 31 | 4 | 32
6 | Tangradi | OHL | 35 | 17 | 27 | 44 | 12 | 33
7 | deGray | OHL | 35 | 2 | 7 | 9 | 6 | 88
8 | Beleskey | OHL | 35 | 23 | 25 | 48 | 17 | 71
9 | Dingle | AHL | 15 | 1 | 4 | 5 | -6 | 4
10 | Carter | AHL | 13 | 3 | 2 | 5 | 3 | 38
11 | Klubertanz | WCHA | 17 | 4 | 6 | 10 | 0 | 24
12 | Ebbett | AHL | 34 | 9 | 28 | 37 | -3 | 31
13 | Dixon | AHL | 34 | 8 | 11 | 19 | 5 | 24
14 | Festerling | AHL | 29 | 2 | 2 | 4 | -3 | 18
15 | Kampfer | CCHA | 18 | 2 | 8 | 10 | 12 | 16
16 | Macenauer | QMJHL | 36 | 13 | 21 | 34 | 15 | 43
17 | Morrison | QMJHL | 35 | 20 | 29 | 49 | 0 | 42
18 | Platt | AHL | 31 | 15 | 15 | 30 | 4 | 14
19 | Wirtanen | AHL | 31 | 4 | 7 | 11 | 0 | 26
20 | Birner | AHL | 23 | 3 | 7 | 10 | -2 | 12

And now the goalies:
Name | league | GP | W | L | SOL | GAA | % | SO
Levasseur | ECHL | 17 | 7 | 5 | 1 | 2.84 | 0.9 | 1
Goepfert | ECHL | 8 | 6 | 2 | 0 | 1.52 | 0.94 | 1
Coleman | AHL | 15 | 7 | 7 | 1 | 2.95 | 0.894 | 2
Modig | SEL | 7 | ? | ? | ? | 4.1 | 0.861 | 0
Stefaniszin | 2. Bund | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 3 | ? |

Yeah Europe is hard. I don't understand German/Swiss, and they don't seem to list all the stats. Fun fact: on Halifax (where Swan and MacMillan play) there's a Shawn O'Donnell. Ha.

It's interesting that Swan and MacMillan play on the same team, but Swan is so much worse in the +/-. But the QMJHL is stupid and uses a different website than all the other hockey leagues (OHL, WHL, AHL, ECHL) and doesn't give any kind of game-by-game stats. So I can't tell if those minuses are all recent, when MacMillan was off.

Well that was a lot more work than I expected. Mainly for the non-North Americans. I have a lot more respect for all the people who do things like this.

Kevin Forbes

12-29-2007, 11:42 PM

It's interesting that Swan and MacMillan play on the same team, but Swan is so much worse in the +/-. But the QMJHL is stupid and uses a different website than all the other hockey leagues (OHL, WHL, AHL, ECHL) and doesn't give any kind of game-by-game stats. So I can't tell if those minuses are all recent, when MacMillan was off.

It's there, it's just not as easy to find. (it's under individual records (by game)). In the case of Swan/MacMillan, it's a little bit of both. Although Swan is a -10 over his last nine games (all of them missed by MacMillan), he's also, quite frankly, not as strong in his own end as MacMillan, nor does his line score as often.

Actually, I prefer the stats package that the QMJHL uses, because once you get right into it (and familiar with it), there's actually more information there then what is provided by the Pointstreak package that most leagues use.

As for Europe, I often end up clicking through foreign language websites at random, hoping to find stats. It's a tedious process, but often it's the only way to find information. Websites like hockeydb, eurohockey and elite prospects are good resources, but sometimes (and in the case of the first two, most of the time) aren't completely up to date.

Thankfully for me, the Ducks haven't had many players in Europe, which helps a lot. I remember trying to find stats for Jan Tabacek and Peter Podhradsky back in the day. Geez.

snarktacular

12-29-2007, 11:58 PM

Yeah I've tried to find Russian stats before. I couldn't find anything. I'm not convinced a Russian hockey league even exists. I suspect the players just get together and play pickup or something, with no official games or stats.

At least in German, "statistic" looks very close in German. It's like the same with a K or something. Russian has those crazy letters, and looks nothing like English (or Spanish, which I also know a little).

Kevin Forbes

12-30-2007, 12:07 AM

Yeah I've tried to find Russian stats before. I couldn't find anything. I'm not convinced a Russian hockey league even exists. I suspect the players just get together and play pickup or something, with no official games or stats.

With Russian, I always depended heavily on HF's Russian correspondent, Eugene Belashchenko. Without him and his site (russianprospects.com), most of the coverage I provided for Anaheim's Russian prospects would have been woeful.

snarktacular

12-30-2007, 12:40 AM

With Russian, I always depended heavily on HF's Russian correspondent, Eugene Belashchenko. Without him and his site (russianprospects.com), most of the coverage I provided for Anaheim's Russian prospects would have been woeful.
Nah, he's just part of the conspiracy. There is no RSL.

Pepper

12-30-2007, 09:56 AM

For FEL stats, go here:

http://www.sm-liiga.fi/tilastot.html

The first page is overall points scoring stats (Pesonen will most likely stay first for the rest of the season) but from the 3rd upper-left slider menu you can choose a team and see the stats for players of that team.

EDIT: You can find SEL stats here:

http://www.hockeyligan.se/index.php?stats=start

Click "poäng" under Spelarstatistik (2007/2008) on the left side of the page to see top scorers

iLau

12-31-2007, 04:59 AM

Who is this Morrison guy that plays in QMJHL? I never heard of him before.

Kevin Forbes

12-31-2007, 10:08 AM

Who is this Morrison guy that plays in QMJHL? I never heard of him before.

Drafted last year, he's an over-ager this year (20 years old) so he's supposed to be scoring like he is. Very offensively skilled, he's also rather slight in stature.

bandolero

12-31-2007, 11:07 AM

Janne Pesonen is having a great season in FEL. He has been a major force in FEL. Right now you could say he is the best player in FEL. We are here in Oulu very pleased that we can watch him play this season, because we all thought he is gone last summer. Don't know how he would have done in NA this season, but Ducks will make a big mistake if they won't give a chance next summer. Perhaps we can even see him in WC in Canada at spring.

-300*C

01-03-2008, 08:55 PM

Pesonen extends his scoring streak to 6 games.
23 G + 23 A = 46 P
in 37 games played
+18

Kevin Forbes

01-08-2008, 02:31 PM

Brett Morrison (QMJHL) has been traded from the PEI Rocket to the Rouyn-Noranda Huskies. This will allow the forward, currently tied for sixth in the QMJHL scoring race, to no doubt enjoy a strong playoff run on one of the more competitive teams in the league.

chaosrevolver

01-12-2008, 02:28 PM

UPDATES ON BELESKEY AND TANGRADI!

ON PACE FOR:

F: Matt Beleskey - 88-06-07
http://cluster.leaguestat.com/download.php?client_code=ohl&file_path=img/players/4006.jpg&w=120
GM: 65
G: 46
A: 45
P: 91
PIM: 128
+/-: +38

F: Eric Tangradi - 89-02-10
http://cluster.leaguestat.com/download.php?client_code=ohl&file_path=img/players/4521.jpg&w=120
GM: 68
G: 33
A: 50
P: 83
PIM: 55
+/-: +23

-300*C

01-12-2008, 03:00 PM

Pesonen played well in the European Champions Cup tournament, in two games he scored 3 goals (one against Sparta Prague and two against HC Davos).

Kevin Forbes

01-12-2008, 03:50 PM

MacMillan has been cleared to re-join the Mooseheads after meeting with Ducks doctors. He'll be back with the team tomorrow (Sunday) but is expected to sit out a little more while he gets back into game-shape.
More information: http://www.hfxnews.ca/index.cfm?sid=97326&sc=394

Bulls guy

01-13-2008, 08:25 PM

Beleskey has 7 points and is +6 in his last 3 games 5 goals 2 assists. Including a hat trick on friday and the game winner on Saturday night. He has 13 goals in his last 13 games.
Tangradi went down with an injury during saturday nights game he left holding his wrist lets hope it is not too serious. Nothing has been posted anywhere or anything on the news locally.

bullsfan25

01-13-2008, 10:28 PM

tangradi broke his thumb and is out for 6 weeks

Randall Graves*

01-14-2008, 02:34 AM

Here's atleast a little info about Pesonen from the ducks..I asked Burke about him and said they will probably try to bring him soon my question is whens the earliest he can sign?

Ducksforcup

01-14-2008, 02:35 AM

tangradi broke his thumb and is out for 6 weeks

Oh jeez, bad break. He was having such a good season too.

Fighter

01-14-2008, 08:25 AM

tangradi broke his thumb and is out for 6 weeks

That suck, he's been outstanding for the Bulls this year.

I'm impressed with Beleskey too, he could turn in a "diamond in the rough" for us.

Bulls guy

01-17-2008, 10:39 AM

Matt Beleskey has been named to the OHL all star game. He currently sits tied for 15th in OHL scoring and 2nd in team scoring with the following stats.
39 Games 28 G 27 A 55pts +23 75 pims.
He has 20 pts in his last 13 games included in there is his 3rd hat trick of the season.:handclap::handclap:

somebody

01-18-2008, 04:58 PM

Kevin Forbes

01-18-2008, 05:55 PM

Hey! What about Ville Mäntymaa. He's stats are great in FEL.
GP G A P PIM +/- Min/GP
40 8 16 24 36 14 27:26
He's leading whole league in Min/GP and he is 6th on defender scoring. He was originally drafted round 9 #280 overall in 2003 and has take huge leap in development this year.

Next year's lineup could be:
Pronger - Mantymaa
Niedermayer - Beauchemin
Scheider - Some Bobby

Stanley Cup 2009!!!!

With the new CBA, European prospects have a deadline to be signed or else their rights are lost (similar to North American prospects). In Mantymaa's case, I believe that window of opportunity has passed by. In other words, he's no longer a Ducks prospect and Anaheim would have to draft him again (and sign him) before they could slot him anywhere in their lineup.

-300*C

01-19-2008, 06:44 PM

Pesonen
40 GP
26 G + 25 A = 51 P
+20
average TOI per game 20:47

fanaheim

01-23-2008, 03:56 PM

-300*C

01-25-2008, 11:29 AM

Pesonen 41GP
27G + 27A = 54P
+23
(Leading scorer of his team, #2 scorer in the league, and he's one point from breaking his previous scoring record)

Still 15 games left in the regular season.

Kevin Forbes

01-28-2008, 09:39 AM

Two big games in the QMJHL that just occured and are worth noting.

Over the past two weeks, Rouyn-Noranda and Halifax played each other twice (once in each arena). This is obviously significant for Ducks' fans as there are four Anaheim prospects among the two teams, with Brett Morrison just joining Maxime Macenauer and the Huskies and Logan MacMillan returning to play alongside Bryce Swan on the Mooseheads.

The first RN/HFX game was on January 18th in Halifax, resulting in a 5-3 win for Halifax. MacMillan had an assist. Swan, Morrison and Macenauer were all held without a point. I was in attendance at this game and recorded some of my thoughts below.

The second was on January 25th in Rouyn-Noranda, resulting in an eye-popping 11-6 win for Rouyn-Noranda. Swan had three goals, Morrison had two goals and three assists and Macenauer had two goals and an assist. MacMillan was held without a point.

The January 18th game was MacMillan's first game back. According to his father, he was 172 pounds when he left the team in November and is back up to 190 now. He apparently spent a lot of time at the gym while home in PEI, but unfortunately not as much time on the ice. His timing was a bit off and things like his shot and passing weren't as solid as before. However, he showed a much more physical aspect of his game, playing with plenty of passion. The next game after the RN/HFX game, against Saint John, MacMillan stood up for one of his teammates after a hit from behind. Dropping the mitts and feeding knuckle sandwiches to the opposing player, it reminded me of that Samuel L. Jackson sketch...Inglewood Jack. MacMillan has been playing near exclusively with Jakub Voracek (CLB) and Tomas Knotek (2008)

Swan has been playing the centre position. He was quite vocal about wanting to have a stronger second half and so far he has been much more involved on the ice. Being in the middle of the ice allows him to drive to the net more and encourages him to pay a bit more attention offensively. He's still physical along the boards and pays the price in front of the net. Unfortunately, faceoffs are, by far, not one of his strong points, so he does suffer a bit in that regard by his new position. Swan has been playing regularly with Colby Pridham, another 20-year-old prospect who was a Tampa Bay training camp invitee.

Morrison is a player who I saw a bit of earlier when he played with PEI. During the game in Halifax, it was obvious that he was still learning his new team's systems, although that seemed to have corrected itself by the time the second game rolled around if the stat line is any indication. He tries to play bigger then he is, which is necessary to succeed both at this level and with any hopes of moving on. He seems to be able to get the jump on the opposition at times, with a quick first step. However, I'm unconvinced that his skills will be sufficient enough for him to make it to the NHL.

Macenauer did not have the best game in Halifax, although he was closely checked by Halifax defenders. Even though for the most part he was ineffective, it's clear why Halifax picked him. He's obviously a project, but he's always in the right position. I don't know how I can make that sound as important as it looked on the ice, but whether it's a dump-in, a rebound, a blocked shot, anything, he anticipates the play, knows where the puck will be and is there to react. This serves him well, because his skating doesn't appear to be the greatest. I didn't see much indication of his shot, passing or other abilities, but if he has some other skills to go along with his great vision and positioning, he could be a surprise.

Also, for anyone interested, QMJHL games are telecasted (and archived) here: http://qmjhl.mytelus.com/

Randall Graves*

01-28-2008, 10:00 PM

Kevin Forbes

01-29-2008, 01:01 AM

Thanks Kevin, I hope everything is better for Logan now his health is the most important thing of course.

How big is Macenauer? as in true size he seems interesting because i've heard Burke talk about him and he thinks the guy has some potential, hopefully he can stay healthy and we can see him in the rookie tourney next year...

Looking at him on the ice, he seemed pretty average in size. He's listed at 6 feet, about 190 and that seems about right. Might be a little heavier then that as he looks pretty solid on his skates. Not like other teenagers in junior, where it's pretty visible they need to beef up. I would suspect that as part of his rehab and as preventive care from further injuries, Macenauer's conditioning and workout routine is a little farther along the line then most players at his age.

snarktacular

01-29-2008, 01:46 AM

I didn't read this until now because it was a little long and "heavy," but that's some great info Kevin.

Whoa. Q games are archived? What other games have multiple Ducks players played each other? This could be a great opportunity for to see some of our prospects. Any members fancy themselves decent scouts and could provide different reports to help get a feel for our guys? I might give it a try when I get some time, but I think I'm a pretty poor scout because I tend to watch the action and not focus on any players.

Kevin Forbes

01-29-2008, 09:14 AM

I might give it a try when I get some time, but I think I'm a pretty poor scout because I tend to watch the action and not focus on any players.

The problem with the archived video is that's what the cameramen do too (naturally, because it is their job). I'm not sure how viable scouting could be done through this, although the Sabres apparently use a lot of video scouting for their needs. It's too early to see if that has paid off or not.
I have never used Telus's service to watch a full game, but the quality is pretty good.

-300*C

01-29-2008, 05:37 PM

Pesonen today 1+3
43 GP
29G + 30A = 59 P
+29

Duck Fan

01-29-2008, 05:49 PM

Do we have the rights to Pesonen? If so, then why isn't he listed as one of our 20 top prospects? It seems to me that anyone who puts up his numbers would be listed as top 20 prospect.

Kevin Forbes

01-30-2008, 01:15 AM

Do we have the rights to Pesonen? If so, then why isn't he listed as one of our 20 top prospects? It seems to me that anyone who puts up his numbers would be listed as top 20 prospect.

He's too old to be considered a prospect under HF's criteria

Also: He has until June 1st, 2008 to sign a contract with the Ducks. It's grandfathered in, as can be seen on this page: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/bmarshall63/payroll.html

As a 25-year-old (26 in May 2008), he can only sign a one-year contract.

-300*C

02-02-2008, 03:37 PM

Janne Pesonen
SM-liiga points, goals and plus-minus leader
45 games played, 11 to go in the regular season
30 goals (7 game winning goals) + 30 assists = 60 points
plus-minus: +30
average TOI per game: 20:56

snarktacular

02-02-2008, 04:20 PM

I'm pretty impressed with Pesonen's goal totals. I wonder if he has any chance of being a top-6 goalscorer next year. Since I'm not sure Ryan will be ready for that. Which wing does he play, left or right?

Randall Graves*

02-02-2008, 11:05 PM

Too bad we can't sign him now...can't be any worse than all of the 4th liners we have.

I read on TSN this weekend that the Ducks are one of the teams trying to sign Fabian Brunnstrom, supposedly one of the next great players out of Sweden..

snarktacular

02-03-2008, 01:18 AM

They call Brunnstrom the next Alfredsson... so I don't want him on our team. We don't need to give Niedermayer more reason to retire next year because of the threat of flying pucks.

Finnpin

02-03-2008, 09:21 AM

Which wing does he play, left or right?What I remember he is right wing but I guess he can play it both sides. -300c can tell it better.

Roshole

02-03-2008, 03:43 PM

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=6659&lang=en

stats

http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/11323-Fabian-Brunnstrom-the-next-Daniel-Alfredsson.html

you tube reference

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=451188

does'nt look like anaheim will get him... detroit seems really optimistic...

-300*C

02-03-2008, 04:34 PM

Yeah Pesonen plays mostly right wing.

Randall Graves*

02-05-2008, 06:10 PM

Kevin Forbes

02-05-2008, 07:48 PM

I'm working on the NCAA update for HF (hope to have it up by the end of the week).
Anyway, I spoke to Michigan coach Red Berenson about Mitera and Kampfer and he spoke very highly about Mitera.
Stay tuned!

Heavy Hussar

02-06-2008, 02:49 AM

Haven't seen much about Mark Mitera in this thread but probably 90 percent of the time i've seen him he's been fantastic, he pretty much plays half the game, and when he does have a bad period(like a few weeks ago) he rebounds very well for the rest of the game.

He won't have to be in the AHL too long.

yeah i watch alot of college hockey too, and mitera doesnt put up points but he moves around VERY well, so much so you forget how big he actually is. there are some small mistakes, but i like that he has become a reliable leader type.

Randall Graves*

02-06-2008, 07:09 AM

yeah i watch alot of college hockey too, and mitera doesnt put up points but he moves around VERY well, so much so you forget how big he actually is. there are some small mistakes, but i like that he has become a reliable leader type.
The mistakes he makes are very very correctable, first and foremost he makes good reads, he's not one of these idiot defensemen who just uses all their skill to get by.

He's really good with his stick, be it taking away passing lanes, blocking shots with it or just stealing a puck from someone.

Good outlet passes, though when he gets rushed sometimes he overshoots the guy he's passing too but in a pro style system I think that will go down.

The only real hole is on offense but that's what I like about him, he's not trying to do things he either cannot, or does not feel comfortable doing.

Also I have noticed he is starting to grow a meanstreak and i'm sure when he gets to learn under Pronger it'll grow more.

Overall he has alot of positives and he flies under the radar alot for a first round pick, but I think that's because he doesn't have much of a wow factor. I can see him turning into a Regehr/Hannan/Foote type dman if he reaches his potential.

flip51

02-07-2008, 01:14 AM

Mitera was phenomenal in the beginning of the year, the past few games not so much. He coughed up the puck in his own end which led to a goal by NMU. I fully expect him to play out of his mind as #2 UM takes on #1 Miami this weekend to make up for his poor play.

The loss of Jack Johnson was really the best thing that could happen for Mitera. He has really taken over as the teams #1 Dman and has done better than I could ever have imagined. He's always paired with a freshman (who are less than stellar at times) and up until these last few games he had pretty much no ES goals against.

Also, Kampfer is great! By far my favorite Dman on Michigan.

You should really try to watch one or both of the games this weekend. Will be some good hockey. GO BLUE!

Pwnasaurus

02-07-2008, 10:19 AM

So Mitera takes over the O'Donnell role soon and Doughty takes over the Scotty role after that?

Bulls guy

02-08-2008, 03:01 PM

Markus078

02-09-2008, 10:19 AM

Beleskey scored his team leading 35,36 goal last night plus added an assist.
This giving him a team leading 71pts so far this year.
I haven't seen anything anywhere saying whether he has signed a deal yet or not. Does anyone know if this has happened or if you think they will sign him?

Afaik he is not signed yet but I'm sure he will get signed. His destination next season will be the AHL and I really can see him being a good 3rd liner at the NHL-level. Maybe he can become a 2nd liner but I doubt he has the talent. He is definitely a player I want at Anaheim soon.

bandolero

02-10-2008, 01:12 PM

LG Hockey Games -tournament in Sweden just ended. Janne Pesonen was a part of finnish nationalteam and got a goal and two assists in three games (Russia, Czhech, Sweden). I think there is quite a fare chanche that Janne Pesonen will play in WC in Vancouver this fall. Russia won the tournament, Finland was second.

karacter

02-10-2008, 07:45 PM

what is the deal w/ pessonen? we simply own his rights or what? Does anyone feel he can make a contribution to the ducks in the future?

TheJoeMan

02-10-2008, 10:34 PM

what is the deal w/ pessonen? we simply own his rights or what? Does anyone feel he can make a contribution to the ducks in the future?

We own his rights but I believe they expire this summer. I'd say he'll get signed for sure since he can only signed an entry-level deal.

gscorer

02-12-2008, 04:15 PM

Pesonen 1+1 against KalPa.

47 31g+31a = 62p +33 50pim

You can see Sm-Liiga highlights here:
http://www.nelonen.fi/smliiga/videot.asp

Fighter

02-12-2008, 05:38 PM

Pesonen is another Karpat Oulun breed like Jussi Jokinen, who also was an important player for Oulu but not as good as a scorer if I recall well.

Can Jussi be a good comparison to Pesonen?

BADger

02-13-2008, 01:38 AM

Can Jussi be a good comparison to Pesonen?

Not exactly, Pesonen is much more dynamic and more of a goalscorer than Jokinen. Both have very soft hands though, but I think Jokinen is still a better playmaker. Pesonen homever seems like a guy who could really suprise people if given a proper chance in top6. Based on seeing them both in Finland, if Jokinen can do 50+ points in the Nhl, Pesonen can too. It would be foolish not to bring this guy there next year..

Ducksforcup

02-13-2008, 01:44 AM

Burke is not adverse to bringing over European prospects (Melin, Hiller etc). I could see him bringing over Pesonen.

BADger

02-15-2008, 03:25 AM

Pesonen with two assists at yesterday's game against HPK. His teammates tried hard to play a goalscoring spot for him, because he is only one short of the team's alltime goalscoring record.

48games 31goals 33assists = 64points.

gscorer

02-17-2008, 07:18 AM

Pesonen scored a goal yesterday and has now 32 goals. New team's alltime goalscoring record.:handclap:

lux_interior

02-17-2008, 04:00 PM

On the NHL Network they were showing Augusta vs. Florida. Goepfert got shelled for (I think) four goals. I thought Matt Auffrey looked pretty good though.

jax00

02-19-2008, 01:30 AM

Im drooling over a possible future of:

Mitera - Doughty/Schenn
Salcido - Mikkelson

snarktacular

02-19-2008, 03:14 AM

He's almost not a prospect anymore, but here's a cool article about Carter. As to prospects, I guess it also talks a little about McNab and signing more college UFA prospects. http://www.ocregister.com/sports/carter-mcnab-play-1982601-game-minnesota

Randall Graves*

02-19-2008, 06:15 AM

Im drooling over a possible future of:

Mitera - Doughty/Schenn
Salcido - Mikkelson
Mitera and Doughty would have amazing potential. If we can't get Stamkos I hope we can snag one of these defensemen(Bogosian, Schenn, Doughty, Pietrangelo)

and McNab knows what he's doing, Carter looks like he could be another gem if he continues to show this offensive upside..

-300*C

02-19-2008, 04:38 PM

Just another FYI, but Pesonen 0+2 today, which gives him altogether 67 points in 51 games.

Bulls guy

02-19-2008, 05:20 PM

Tangradi made his return on friday night and scored on his third shift. Nice to see him back in the lineup. He looked a sluggish which was expect but in time should be right back to where he was before his injury.:handclap:
Beleskey had 2 assists on Saturday giving him a team leading 78pts in 53gms .
He recently passed the 200 career point plateau making him only the 22nd player in the Bulls 27 year history to do that.:thumbu:

karacter

02-20-2008, 02:22 AM

what are the chances pesonen atleast gets a shot at next years training camp?

AdamBanks8

02-20-2008, 03:00 AM

what are the chances pesonen atleast gets a shot at next years training camp?

I don't think he would come over unless he's given a contract. Probably would demand a one way. If Burke isn't planning on bringing him over he should try to trade his rights for something worthwhile, he's obviously a valuable commodity.

bandolero

02-20-2008, 06:29 AM

I don't think he would come over unless he's given a contract. Probably would demand a one way.

Pesonen can only be signed two-way one year deal. So it would be a terrible choice to not trying to sign him. One year two-way deal won't make any harm if he doesn't make the NHL-team.

Just over week ago in some interview Pesonen was asked about the NHL, he said that he doesn't think NHL during the season time for that is after season ends. But what was interesting is that Anaheim hasn't shown any interest in Pesonen this season. Does that mean they are not going to sign him or that they are will most certain sign him this fall and they don't want to disturb the great season he is having?

karacter

02-20-2008, 01:57 PM

it would seem dumb to atleast not trade his rights if possible...i mean if we arent gonna give hima shot then im sure some team will. if we sign him to a 2 way deal and he gets sent to portland, can he just leave at any time?

Hank

02-20-2008, 02:10 PM

i mean if we arent gonna give hima shot then im sure some team will. if we sign him to a 2 way deal and he gets sent to portland, can he just leave at any time?

Every other Euro we've ever tried that with has bolted. Hedstrom, Parssinien, etc. Some play out the season in the AHL and some don't but they ALL don't ever sign a second contract.

Not a fan of the older Euro prospect.

TheJoeMan

02-20-2008, 02:26 PM

Every other Euro we've ever tried that with has bolted. Hedstrom, Parssinien, etc. Some play out the season in the AHL and some don't but they ALL don't ever sign a second contract.

Not a fan of the older Euro prospect.

Yeah but for every Hedstrom and Parssonen there are a Gerber and a Havelid in there too. I say sign him. At least see what we've got. Either he's good enough to be an impact player in the NHL or he's AHL talent and either stays there or more than likely goes back home. Low risk if you ask me. Personally I like the notion of having Finland's best forward this year on our team next year.

AdamBanks8

02-20-2008, 02:50 PM

Why not give him a shot? It's not our Million wasted.

Bulls guy

02-20-2008, 11:49 PM

Beleskey with 2 more assists tonight including setting up the game winner.:handclap:
Hope they sign this kid soon would be a shame for the Ducks to see him go back in the draft.

Duck Fan

02-21-2008, 03:58 PM

What is the latest with Bobby Ryan. Have not heard any word on how he is doing in Portland.

TheJoeMan

02-21-2008, 08:52 PM

What is the latest with Bobby Ryan. Have not heard any word on how he is doing in Portland.

18 goals and 21 assists for 39 points in 41 games. A plus 9 and an All-star. Couldn't tell you how he's looked but his stats look real good.

Filppula

02-22-2008, 10:22 PM

Your prospect Matt Beleskey has 2 goals and an assist tonight. Seems he's got a bit of chemistry with Wings prospect Jan Mursak. :)

Bulls guy

02-23-2008, 04:59 PM

Beleskey actually finished the game with a hat trick. :handclap:
That was his forth this season and his 40th goal of the year. He still has ten games to go in regular season. He has been playing on a line with the Mursak and Adam Perry and they have found some pretty good chemistry.

somebody

02-24-2008, 10:02 AM

Only thing with Pesonen is that he must be given top6 minutes to be effective. Ducks have no use for him for bottom6. Even though he has improved his defensive play majorly in last few years, he ain't good enough defensily to play in bottom6. But given top 6 minutes, he has a good shot hitting 50 point mark like J.Jokinen. And I think J.Jokinen would have 70 point potential if someone would give him proper ice time instead of 12 minutes what he plays every game but that's another story.

Pepper

02-24-2008, 11:13 AM

While Pesonen is not exactly a Carlyle-type of player, there are several teams which really appreciate European talent a lot.

Detroit for example, too bad we won't be dealing with them.

Pesonen definetly has trade value.

karacter

02-24-2008, 04:37 PM

Benny Lava

02-25-2008, 02:16 AM

Ducksforcup

02-25-2008, 02:17 AM

Corey's brother, right? Is he any good?

I remember that he was at one of our training camps as an undrafted invitee.

Beyond that, I know absolutley nothing. So, I guess I didn't help you too much. :biglaugh:

Benny Lava

02-25-2008, 02:20 AM

I remember that he was at one of our training camps as an undrafted invitee.

Beyond that, I know absolutley nothing. So, I guess I didn't help you too much. :biglaugh:

Yeah, I remember that, it was after the lockout. I didn't pay any attention to how he did though.

Markus078

02-25-2008, 05:54 AM

heusy_79

02-25-2008, 03:16 PM

Belesky is really picking it up now. Sure he is an overager but he looks like he can become a fine player. What I like most is, that he is leading the league in +/- and his PIM. This boy is +31 while having 83 pts. This is freaking awesome.

I agree with everything you've said here, except the overage part. I'm pretty sure Beleskey is a 19 year old, the Bulls overagers are Self, Killing and Perry.

Kevin Forbes

02-25-2008, 03:41 PM

I agree with everything you've said here, except the overage part. I'm pretty sure Beleskey is a 19 year old, the Bulls overagers are Self, Killing and Perry.

That is correct. Beleskey is a 19-year-old. Tangradi is an 18-year-old.

heusy_79

02-25-2008, 07:07 PM

I think Adam Perry would be a great free agent signing by the Ducks. He has looked great since joining the Bulls from London. Nice hands, decent speed, a consistent scoring threat in the OHL. He would probably be in a bottom 6 role if he ever made the NHL, but he plays a gritty style and could probably adjust. He was also the captain of the Knights before the trade, so he must have solid leadership qualities as well.

snarktacular

02-25-2008, 07:15 PM

The impression I got from way back when was that Adam was essentially Corey without the size and half the hands. Of course that's from other people's accounts, not my seeing him.

bandolero

02-27-2008, 07:37 AM

Pesonen yesterday 1+2. He was one of the main architects when Kärpät won Pelicans 5-3, Kärpät also ensured the regular season victory.

Season stats: 53 games 34 goals 38 assists (total 72 points, +/- 36).

Three games left from the regular season and he is two points behind the leading scorer Ville Leino (24+47). Others are over ten points behind Pesonen so it's all about Leino and Pesonen. Leino and Pesonen have made exceptional amount of points compared to previous 5 seasons. 10 to 20 points more than in five recent years scoring leader had and it's quite a bit in 56 game regular season.

AdamBanks8

02-27-2008, 10:44 PM

Kevin Forbes

02-28-2008, 12:29 AM

I watched three complete Halifax games and I must say i'm really not very impressed with MacMillan. He has an NHL type body but I didn't see any above average skills over anyone else on the ice. He skates well but his puck handling isn't very impressive as he is fairly slow with his decisions and often loses possession. Am I missing something here? Why would he be picked 19th overall? Also didn't see much from Swan at all. Voracek on the other hand has amazing speed, agility and puck handling.

Just wondering what three games you watched?

Halifax has been a very troubled teams at times this year. Not everyone seems to be working in the same direction at times and the two Anaheim prospects aren't immune to that criticism.

MacMillan has had a difficult year this year with the injuries, but he's more or less back in form now, with an added physical element to his game (he has something like 6 fights to his name since returning in January).

Swan has had an even rougher year and is currently playing third/fourth line minutes. While Halifax does regularly rotate their lines and Swan sees PK and PP time (more the former then the latter), he's got a lot of depth up front ahead of him and has had a hard time distinguishing himself.

For the record, MacMillan is currently lining up at left wing, while Swan is currently working as a centre.

Voracek is the best player in the QMJHL, hands down. He's one of the best players not in the NHL right now.

snarktacular

02-28-2008, 12:55 AM

AdamBanks8

02-28-2008, 01:08 AM

Just wondering what three games you watched?

Halifax has been a very troubled teams at times this year. Not everyone seems to be working in the same direction at times and the two Anaheim prospects aren't immune to that criticism.

MacMillan has had a difficult year this year with the injuries, but he's more or less back in form now, with an added physical element to his game (he has something like 6 fights to his name since returning in January).

Swan has had an even rougher year and is currently playing third/fourth line minutes. While Halifax does regularly rotate their lines and Swan sees PK and PP time (more the former then the latter), he's got a lot of depth up front ahead of him and has had a hard time distinguishing himself.

For the record, MacMillan is currently lining up at left wing, while Swan is currently working as a centre.

Voracek is the best player in the QMJHL, hands down. He's one of the best players not in the NHL right now.

I watched tonights, yesterdays, and the game before that. I did notice Macmillan had a physical side, but, I didn't notice any superb offensive skills (hoped for better hands) that would warrant him being drafted 19th overall. More than trying to bash on him I am genuinely curious as to why he would be drafted 19th? I could be totally wrong and 3 games sure isn't enough to fully evaluate a player but I guess I just expected to see a little more from him as well as Swan.

AdamBanks8

02-28-2008, 01:11 AM

I was just looking at the stats of some of the prospects. What the hell happened to Wirtanen? My little chart says that he had 11 points in 31 games (.35 ppg) and he's gotten 21 points in 26 games since?

Miller seems to be scoring pretty well in the AHL since being sent down. A tad over PPG.

I love Wirts game. I can't help but see a little Sammi in him. I love how our org. looks for hard working responsible checkers.

Randall Graves*

02-28-2008, 03:26 AM

I was just looking at the stats of some of the prospects. What the hell happened to Wirtanen? My little chart says that he had 11 points in 31 games (.35 ppg) and he's gotten 21 points in 26 games since?

Miller seems to be scoring pretty well in the AHL since being sent down. A tad over PPG.
Wirtanen had like a 7 or 11 game point streak going earlier in the year.He was playing with King and Ryan for a while IIRC.

Randall Graves*

02-28-2008, 03:27 AM

I watched tonights, yesterdays, and the game before that. I did notice Macmillan had a physical side, but, I didn't notice any superb offensive skills (hoped for better hands) that would warrant him being drafted 19th overall. More than trying to bash on him I am genuinely curious as to why he would be drafted 19th? I could be totally wrong and 3 games sure isn't enough to fully evaluate a player but I guess I just expected to see a little more from him as well as Swan.
I think we are going to be kicking ourselves for passing Pacrioretty, he's looked really good for the Wolverines in the games i've seen him.

Ducks_è_Halos

02-28-2008, 03:54 AM

^^I wish they had gone w/ Pacioretty as well. I was disappointed when they passed on him.

snarktacular

02-28-2008, 04:04 AM

Me too, for no reason other than Max Pac is a lot cooler of a nickname than Lo Mac.

sakukoivu2003

02-29-2008, 02:48 PM

Hey guys...

I would like to know more about Tangradi...

Potential? Upside? NHL ready?

heusy_79

02-29-2008, 04:04 PM

Hey guys...

I would like to know more about Tangradi...

Potential? Upside? NHL ready?

Somewhat of a late bloomer, has gotten better and better in a large way over the course of his OHL career. He's a big strong kid who skates pretty well for his size, and has decent hands too. Not overly physical, but doesn't shy away from contact by any means. As for upside, if his offensive game continues to develop, he projects as a 2nd line left winger with a power forward game. Perhaps a good comparison here would be Pittsburgh's Ryan Malone, but I would even stretch to say he could be a less mean version of Keith Tkachuk in his prime. He's the type of player who, if he does not pan out offensively, could still be a useful bottom 6 forward, in this type of role he could remind some of Rob Niedermayer. I think the Ducks see him as more of a long term project, he might be 3 or more years away.

The Fuhr

02-29-2008, 08:06 PM

Randall Graves*

02-29-2008, 10:07 PM

Petteri Wirtanen upside?

I have read he is an elite defensive player in the Pahlsson mold. He is also a tremendous leader as he was captain for Finland a few years back at the world juniors.

I wonder what kind of offensice upside he has as I always figured he would be a 3rd line shut down center.

He is 21 years old and is 6'2 and 207lbs

In his last 35AHL games he has recorded eight goals and 28 points.

Does his late blooming offense show signs of him becoming a possible two-way second line center?

Can he be that hard nosed shutdown center who can also pitch in 40-45 points?
Hard to say he's been playing with really good offensive players. He might be one of those guys that can play on the 2nd line, do the dirty work and get points that way.

Tangradi reminds me a bit of Dustin Penner except he's more advanced than Penner was at the same age(quite a bit more) and I think he has a bit more natural ability too.

snarktacular

03-01-2008, 02:59 AM

Hard to say he's been playing with really good offensive players. He might be one of those guys that can play on the 2nd line, do the dirty work and get points that way.

Tangradi reminds me a bit of Dustin Penner except he's more advanced than Penner was at the same age(quite a bit more) and I think he has a bit more natural ability too.
Don't tell Lowe that.

I doubt Wirtanen ends up with much offensive ability. He hadn't really ever shown it before. This could just be a fluke. I wouldn't complain if he did score more while on our checking line though. It would be great if the 3rd line scored more. Carter or MacMillan are the ones who seem most likely to become solid 2 way 2nd liners. Miller as well.

bandolero

03-02-2008, 09:49 AM

one game to go in regular season and Pesonen is a leading scorer. 55 games 34 goals and 42 assists (total 76 pts). Kärpät plays the last game against Jokerit where also plays Ville Leino (27+48) who is one point behind Pesonen. Pesonen is having a amazing season and would be pure stupidity to not give him a chance next summer/autumn.

iLau

03-04-2008, 04:57 AM

YoungJames

03-04-2008, 04:29 PM

edd1e

03-05-2008, 05:54 AM

Janne Pesonen won the FHL scoring title with a total of 56gp 34g + 44a = 78p. Pesonen was also the best goal scorer and finished with the best +/- rating.

He scored 16p more than last years scoring leader, Martin Kariya.

He will propably be on the roster for Team Finland in the WHC, so all you Ducks-fans might want to check him out then.

Also with those 78 points he tied with the all time score record in FHL (Sm-Liiga) So this is big deal.. Anaheim should give him a shot cause he clearly is too good for FHL.

Spelman

03-05-2008, 07:58 AM

Also with those 78 points he tied with the all time score record in FHL (Sm-Liiga) So this is big deal.. Anaheim should give him a shot cause he clearly is too good for FHL.
yeah, but only 2000-

all-time record is still:
44 games, 29+64=93
Kari Jalonen, Kärpät, 1986-87

bandolero

03-05-2008, 01:20 PM

Also with those 78 points he tied with the all time score record in FHL (Sm-Liiga)

Actually Pesonen is now 6th within all-time top scorers in SM-liiga. Not first like corrected above. Pretty impressive points anyway because of all that clutching and defense orientated game in past years.

anaheim ducks90

03-05-2008, 02:47 PM

I think the Ducks must give him a chance in training-camp. I think Pesonen have the talent and skills to play NHL-Hockey.

edd1e

03-05-2008, 02:59 PM

yeah, but only 2000-

all-time record is still:
44 games, 29+64=93
Kari Jalonen, Kärpät, 1986-87

Oh, my bad..

Pepper

03-05-2008, 03:47 PM

I think the Ducks must give him a chance in training-camp. I think Pesonen have the talent and skills to play NHL-Hockey.

PRoblem is he has to be signed before training camp.

Trust me, there WILL be a team who signs him if Ducks don't do it before july 1st.

TheJoeMan

03-05-2008, 08:00 PM

Burke will sign Pesonen for sure. For nothing else because he's a valuable commodity. I'd love to see him translate his Finnish league success into NHL success. But at the very least I'd like to see Burke turn a 9th round throw-away-pick-on-a-Euro for something tangible.

bleuer

03-07-2008, 10:24 AM

article on karpat and pesonen on nhl.com

Pesonen takes scoring crown

Janne Pesonen, a 25-year-old winger who was chosen by the Anaheim Ducks in the ninth round (No. 269) of the 2004 NHL Entry Draft after winning SM-Liiga Rookie of the Year, has emerged as the most prolific offensive talent in the league.

Pesonen stands a good chance of winning the Lasse Oksanen Trophy as league MVP. Pesonen led the SM-Liiga with 34 goals, 78 points and a plus-39 rating in 56 games.

Pesonen had a strong season last season, scoring 22 goals and 55 points in the regular season and adding four goals and seven points in nine playoff games. He's taken his game to a higher level this season. A model of consistency, Pesonen has gone back-to-back games without a point just three times this season, and has not had a single three-game drought. Meanwhile, he's registered at least one point in 47 of the 56 matches Kärpät has played.

http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=355940

anaheim ducks90

03-07-2008, 06:35 PM

Hi guys. Do you think that Matt Beleskey can clinch the roster-spot from Doug Weight in the 2nd line Center? Or the Ducks send him to the AHL to make experience?

duckyman

03-07-2008, 08:50 PM

I think the Bulls will go pretty far in the OHL playoff so I doubt we'll see him anytime soon. He'll be in the AHL if the Bulls are eliminated though.

McDonald19

03-07-2008, 10:12 PM

Hi guys. Do you think that Matt Beleskey can clinch the roster-spot from Doug Weight in the 2nd line Center? Or the Ducks send him to the AHL to make experience?

Belesky will be in the AHL next season.

TheJoeMan

03-08-2008, 04:16 AM

Belesky will be in the AHL next season.

Agreed. Only exceptional youngsters can make the jump from the OHL to the NHL and even fewer into a top-6 role like that. He may end up being a solid NHLer but that's a few years away. No rush though, let the kid develop. I love the way he plays.

Bulls guy

03-10-2008, 10:52 AM

He needs to be signed first!
It looks as the Bulls will go pretty far in the playoffs this year. So hopefully the stronger run he has the better chances of him getting signed before the deadline. It would be a shame for the Ducks to see him go back in the draft.
He presently leads his team in all categories Goals,Points,Pims and +/-:handclap:

McDonald19

03-12-2008, 12:32 AM

Burke will sign him, don't worry. He is a Brian Burke style hockey player.

Spankatola Jamnuts

03-12-2008, 03:09 AM

Burke will sign him, don't worry. He is a Brian Burke style hockey player.
A defenseman? A goon??

Bulls guy

03-12-2008, 11:03 AM

A defenseman? A goon??

A forward with good hands,heavy shot and doesn't shy away from the physical aspect of the game.

Nugget

03-12-2008, 11:24 AM

What would be Brendan Mikkelson's potential? How many years until he's NHL ready? Thanks!

Spankatola Jamnuts

03-12-2008, 04:26 PM

A forward with good hands,heavy shot and doesn't shy away from the physical aspect of the game.
Is he considering retirement?

snarktacular

03-12-2008, 05:05 PM

Is he considering retirement?
You forgot "does he lack offensive ability?"

Spankatola Jamnuts

03-12-2008, 10:09 PM

Ooh ooh! Is he a third liner?

Bulls guy

03-12-2008, 11:46 PM

Beleskey had 2 points tonight including setting up the game winner on OT.
He was also name the Jake Gilmour award winner which is voted on by fans.
This award is based on pride in wearing the Bulls jersey,respect for the fans,his opponents and his teammates.
Jake Gilmour was a young man whose life ended too early and displayed those qualities.
This is a well deserved honour.

Congratulations Matt! :handclap::handclap:

Oilers Chick

03-14-2008, 02:52 AM

Mark Mitera has been named a finalist for CCHA Defensive Defenseman of the Year. He was also named to the All-CCHA Second Team.

The CCHA individual award winners will be announced on March 20 in Detroit.

lux_interior

03-14-2008, 03:26 AM

Ooh ooh! Is he a third liner?

No he's truculent and has serious 4th line potential.

Spankatola Jamnuts

03-14-2008, 03:58 AM

Meh. He just got an award for being respectful. He should go stomp on some fans.

Bulls guy

03-14-2008, 11:29 PM

Tangradi and Beleskey both finished the regular season finishing with the following points.

Tangradi 56GP 24G 36A 60 PTS +10 41PIMS

Beleskey 62GP 41G 49A 90 PTS +33 106PIMS

This was a great second year for Tangradi who knows if not for the broke thumb he may have finished a little bit higher in the points.:thumbu:
For Beleskey he finishes the regular season tied for goals on the team and led the team in ALL other categories.:handclap:
Great job by both players and hopefully a long playoff run is ahead for both.

Ducksforcup

03-15-2008, 12:10 AM

chaosrevolver

03-16-2008, 01:34 AM

Beleskey was a really good pick for a 5th rounder and Tangradi is looking like a real good one. Thx for the daily updates on these two prospects! :) I am certain that both will be signed in all due time.4th but close enough.

190Octane

03-16-2008, 02:55 AM

Is Beleskey an overager or did he put those points up as a 19 yo?

Kevin Forbes

03-16-2008, 03:58 AM

Is Beleskey an overager or did he put those points up as a 19 yo?

19 year-old
He'll turn pro for next season in the AHL though (provided he's signed)

Randall Graves*

03-16-2008, 06:01 AM

anaheim ducks90

03-16-2008, 07:02 AM

If Beleskey were a habs or leafs prospect there would be all sorts of threads about he's a 'steal' and how great he is..the guy is a good player for sure, said it before but he's a lot like Kunitz only he's more advanced than Kunitz was at that age.

Thank you! That's is also my opinion. We are know that Beleskey will have a great future and that is important.

Kevin Forbes

03-16-2008, 10:38 AM

If Beleskey were a habs or leafs prospect there would be all sorts of threads about he's a 'steal' and how great he is..the guy is a good player for sure, said it before but he's a lot like Kunitz only he's more advanced than Kunitz was at that age.

Kunitz is a better skater and Beleskey is more physical.

karacter

03-16-2008, 04:24 PM

Kunitz is a better skater and Beleskey is more physical.

damn more physical than kunitz? Wow, kunitz is one of our most physical players on the team so that is nice to hear.

Pwnasaurus

03-17-2008, 11:00 AM

damn more physical than kunitz? Wow, kunitz is one of our most physical players on the team so that is nice to hear.

He is, but Kunitz bounces off people because he is small.

-300*C

03-19-2008, 03:51 PM

Pesonen today against Ilves: 3 goals 2 assists
Altogether his playoff performance so far (in 4 games) 5 G + 2 A = 7 points

Bulls guy

03-19-2008, 04:30 PM

The OHL Coaches Poll just came out and 2 Ducks prospects are on the list. This poll is voted on by OHL coaches only and they can not vote for their own players.

Matt Beleskey lead the way winning 3 categries and John DeGray finishing tied for 3rd in 2 in the Eastern Conference.:handclap:

Beleskey was named first in all 3 of these categories Hardest Worker,Hardest Shot and Best Body checker.:handclap:

DeGray ranked third in Best Body checker and Defensive Defenceman:handclap:

chaosrevolver

03-20-2008, 05:27 PM

Kunitz is a better skater and Beleskey is more physical.Thing is. Yes Kunitz is a better skater but Beleskey can definetly skate so its not like its a liability for him. (Not saying you said that)

Hockey Duckie

03-21-2008, 04:06 PM

Matt Beleskey lead the way winning 3 categries and John DeGray finishing tied for 3rd in 2 in the Eastern Conference.:handclap:

Beleskey was named first in all 3 of these categories Hardest Worker,Hardest Shot and Best Body checker.:handclap:

DeGray ranked third in Best Body checker and Defensive Defenceman:handclap:

Wow... there's a name I didn't expect anything at all from, DeGray. After all the talk about Mitera and Feasterling, DeGray was simply a tall defensive d-man. DeGray was actually listed as a top 50 player in the 2006 draft preview by the Hockey News (he was ranked 49th and Beleskey was ranked 56th in the same issue).

Kevin Forbes

03-21-2008, 05:35 PM

Wow... there's a name I didn't expect anything at all from, DeGray. After all the talk about Mitera and Feasterling, DeGray was simply a tall defensive d-man. DeGray was actually listed as a top 50 player in the 2006 draft preview by the Hockey News (he was ranked 49th and Beleskey was ranked 56th in the same issue).

deGray is a defensive defenseman, so if he's doing his job right, you never really notice him. It seems he's doing his job so well, that extends right onto the whole system.
But seriously, deGray is an underrated prospect for the Ducks, he's been nothing but stellar in the OHL since Anaheim drafted him, a leader on and off the ice.
Like Beleskey, he needs to be signed. With any luck, the Ducks will find room for him.