OT:Where does S.Jersey begin and where does N.Jersey begin? Where is central N.J?

Welcome to yet another OT thread the dog days of summer sure stink can't wait for trainning camp to begin. Baseball holds me over a little but, is so boring compared to hockey even Devils hockey.;)Anyhow while at a "AA" baseball game in Trenton last night there was a collage aged couple doing a documentry on NewJersey rasing the debate on this matter.I thought it would be fun to do this HF style.

To me it's simple exit 8 in Hightstown of the Turnpike is the heart of Central Jersey.:teach: It is directly between Freehold and Princeton which many would consider Central Jersey. Anything south of that is to me is South Jersey even though the shore area to about Toms River is mostly considered a N.Y sports market.

South Jesey begins in the bottom portion of Mercer county. Any thing north of Middlesex is North Jersey. Ok now it's your turn play nice...:D

Well, I live right off exit 91 south on the Parkway, and I've been under the impression that "Central Jersey" is mostly a shore thing, like in the image I shaded below. No way do I consider myself north Jersey, and it still seems a bit too urban to be south Jersey. I also go to school a Rutgers in New Brunswick, and I'd still consider that central Jersey, but near the very top of it. But also if you head directly west from the shore toward Trenton, after about 15 miles inland everything just disappears you are out in the middle of no where, which I consider south Jersey. It's a bit difficult to define central Jersey.

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/5468/centralsf2.jpg

Maybe I'm part of "South Jersey" from a lot of people's point of view but it doesn't really feel that way here.

I call Middlesex and Union counties "North-Central."

As long as your not in the pines which is in the lower part of your circle. Do you get both N.Y and Philly stations on your T.V /cable or radio?

Having geown up there, I would consider Middlesex County (especially south of the Raritan) to be the heart of central jersey. But it would also Mercer, most of Monmouth and the southern parts of Somerset and Hunterdon counties.

But then, I grew up in South Brunswick, and the areas I described are all equidistant (pretty much) from the South Brunswick area. So obviously my description is biased. My father always listened to WCTC radio in New Brunswick, which described itself as serving Central Jersey, which kinda made New Brunswick the center according to them, though I feel NB is kinda the northern boundary.

To me, Central Jersey doesn't exist. I grew up in Elizabeth, and so I guess that's north.

Having geown up there, I would consider Middlesex County (especially south of the Raritan) to be the heart of central jersey. But it would also Mercer, most of Monmouth and the southern parts of Somerset and Hunterdon counties.

But then, I grew up in South Brunswick, and the areas I described are all equidistant (pretty much) from the South Brunswick area. So obviously my description is biased. My father always listened to WCTC radio in New Brunswick, which described itself as serving Central Jersey, which kinda made New Brunswick the center according to them, though I feel NB is kinda the northern boundary.Im in what I consider northeren Mercer which is really only about 4 towns W.Windsor, E.Windsor and Cranbury, Hightstown.

Anything below the Trenton line is South Jersey to me.

Anything below the Trenton line is South Jersey to me.Oh yes indeed.

We are one state, New Jersey. all residents should be Devs fans, the only real home team. ;)

Our state is very transient, a lot of people move here from New Yrk, hence the Rags fans here. And a lot of "folks" from South Jersey move up here in North/Central Jersey for work, with the scarcity of jobs down there, hence Floppers fans in parts of Middlesex and Somerset Counties.

We are one state, New Jersey. all residents should be Devs fans, the only real home team. ;)

Our state is very transient, a lot of people move here from New Yrk, hence the Rags fans here. And a lot of "folks" from South Jersey move up here in North/Central Jersey for work, with the scarcity of jobs down there, hence Floppers fans in parts of Middlesex and Somerset Counties.I have a few friends that were from up north who now live in South N.J huge Devs fans one is still a partial plan holder.Cheaper housing in south jersey. If you think about it, it is possible that there is maybe more Rags and Criers fans in N.J than Devils fans.:shakehead

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The red arrow is where I live and I love it there. I've lived in Middletown before but I like it more down here.

Only problem is the Camden only being 15 mins away. Worst place in the state.

Anything below the Trenton line is South Jersey to me.

I'll +1 that. Central jersey doesn't exist in my opinion.

And since I know someone is gonna come in and diss South Jersey eventually, let me state this like I have before.

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In the 80's, South Jersey tried to become its own state, but it was denied because North Jersey didn't want to lose money from the shore and AC. I get all the time from North Jerseyians "Get out of our state." We tried, you didn't let us leave, hypocrit.
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Sorry had to get that off my chest. No but I'm fine with most Northerners. Ask Devfan -RU-.

This is always a fun topic to discuss, truthfully.

I grew up in Ewing Township/West Trenton, Mercer County. We got both Philadelphia and New York television stations, but only Philly radio. People from North Jersey told me I lived in South Jersey. People from South Jersey said I lived in North Jersey. No one ever said I lived in Central Jersey. My Grandmother was a volunteer for West Jersey Hospital which is in Voorhees.

I grew up in Ewing Township/West Trenton, Mercer County. We got both Philadelphia and New York television stations, but only Philly radio. People from North Jersey told me I lived in South Jersey. People from South Jersey said I lived in North Jersey. No one ever said I lived in Central Jersey. My Grandmother was a volunteer for West Jersey Hospital which is in Voorhees.

West Jersey is just the name of the hospital.

If we're to finally figure out if "Central Jersey" exists, that would be a good place to start. Any place that gets both Philly and NY stations should be considered Central Jersey.

To me, New Brunswick is the heart of "central" Jersey. (I went to school at Rutgers). North Jersey starts somewhere around the Edison/Woodbridge border, but it's a gradual transition. Anything south of Trenton is definitely South Jersey. Though, as one from the north, anything south of Princeton was considered South Jersey, but Trenton is probably a better divider. Then there is "the Shore," which is its own distinct region.

I grew up in North Brunswick and this is what I would consider Central Jersey (including the already drawn circles):

http://hfboards.com/imagehosting/3195946d0b7992d4b8.jpg

I think a good dividing line around the Trenton area is south of where 95 and 295 meet. Of course the expands the bottom red line south, but I've got my eye on Hightstown and Cranbury...I don't trust 'em.

But also if you head directly west from the shore toward Trenton, after about 15 miles inland everything just disappears you are out in the middle of no where, which I consider south Jersey.

Ah, but it depends upon where you head west from. Head west from, say, the Long Branch area and you are most likely traveling Rte. 18, Which heads through Old Bridge and East Brunswick - areas which are definitely not South Jersey, areas which I'd define as Central Jersey.

It IS difficult to define. I think one of the criteria in being "Central Jersey" is whether the area has a mixed Philadelphia/New York influence. Like I said, I grew up in South Brunswick, and we watched NY TV stations and considered ourselves to be in the NYC influence - but we had all of the Philly stations too (this was before cable), and there were people nearby (mostly in Princeton and south) that watched the Philly stations almost exclusively. I think this mixing of influences is a pretty good definition of where Central Jersey is.

We are one state, New Jersey. all residents should be Devs fans, the only real home team. ;)

Our state is very transient, a lot of people move here from New Yrk, hence the Rags fans here. And a lot of "folks" from South Jersey move up here in North/Central Jersey for work, with the scarcity of jobs down there, hence Floppers fans in parts of Middlesex and Somerset Counties.

Interesting map here (http://www.commoncensus.org/sports_map.php?sport=4) that shows the location of NHL team fans. North and Central NJ is pretty solidly Devils fans.

I guess I live in South Jersey, but I'm literally 3 minutes from the beach, so I associate myself as someone from the shore, not south jersey. I always figured South Jersey was near Philly. I live next to LBI. I have to say though, there are plenty of Devils fans here. Devils fans > Rangers fans > Flyers fans in my area.

Interesting map here (http://www.commoncensus.org/sports_map.php?sport=4) that shows the location of NHL team fans. North and Central NJ is pretty solidly Devils fans.

Thats a highly inacurate map if you ask me as far as a true representation of fan bases.

South Jersey begins at the tip of Ocean County and extends across and below.

North Jersey begins above Somerset County.

Central Jersey is in between the two.

Really, when the New York commute stops is where South Jersey begins. And that would be Ocean County for the most part as that is about where the commuting to the City ends.

Monmouth is a HUGE NY commuting county so you have to include it in Central Jersey.

I always think of it in terms of area codes. South Jersey is the original 609 area code (when we were just 201 and 609). Central NJ is much harder to define. You can cop out and say it is 732, but that is not totally accurate as 732 extends too far south. Another cop out is using roads and say Central Jersey is between 195 and 22.

Central Jersey is a state of mind. We aren't the hicks in the sticks of south jersey or the stereotypical big hair and accents of north jersey.

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/7558/njuk6.png

I always think of it in terms of area codes. South Jersey is the original 609 area code (when we were just 201 and 609). Central NJ is much harder to define. You can cop out and say it is 732, but that is not totally accurate as 732 extends too far south. Another cop out is using roads and say Central Jersey is between 195 and 22.

Central Jersey is a state of mind. We aren't the hicks in the sticks of south jersey or the stereotypical big hair and accents of north jersey.

:teach::teach::teach::handclap::handclap::handclap :

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/7558/njuk6.png
That goes waaaaaaay too far south for central jersey and not far north enough.

Ask anyone in Cape May County where South Jersey begins and they will all say the same thing, Cape May County. I really don't define or even use the term Central Jersey. And really the only time I use the term North Jersey is if it's up in the Newark area or further north. I hate that anything near Philadelphia or below is considered South Jersey. I suppose people consider everyone in South Jersey hicks in the sticks because of the Pine Barrens. In reality it's about an hour and a half drive to the Pine Barrens from where I live so I could never really understand the misconception about where I am from. Especially considering I'm about a 2 minute drive to the the beach (not the shore). But hey without North Jersey our state wouldn't have all those stereotypes and be known as the armpit of America. :sarcasm:

Cheaper housing in south jersey.

I think kind of this goes along with the misconception of thinking South Jersey is around the Pine Barrens area. I'm sure there are cheap places to live in what I would consider Central or North Jersey.

True story- When I was out in the Pittsburgh area taking an entry exam for school I once had a girl ask me, "You live in New Jersey and you live near the beach?" with a very puzzled look.

I always think of it in terms of area codes. South Jersey is the original 609 area code (when we were just 201 and 609). Central NJ is much harder to define. You can cop out and say it is 732, but that is not totally accurate as 732 extends too far south. Another cop out is using roads and say Central Jersey is between 195 and 22.

Central Jersey is a state of mind. We aren't the hicks in the sticks of south jersey or the stereotypical big hair and accents of north jersey.

609 extends too far north into Hunterdon and Somerset Counties to be considered South Jersey. Some consider the Raritan River to be the dividing line, another cop out.

http://www.whitepages.com/maps/NJ

Wikipedia's Central Jersey: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Jersey

That goes waaaaaaay too far south for central jersey and not far north enough.

Haha It was sarcasm.

To me, the division point of South and North Jersey is the Raritan Bridge on the GSP...but there is that vague area, the New Brunswick area could also be consider as a division point

Somebody should do this: Start at the top of the Parkway and drive all the way down to the end of the Parkway. For instance, say it takes 2.5 hours(150 mins). The first 50 mins of the ride back up would be south jersey, the next 50 central jersey, and the last 50 mins north jersey. You could do something similar just find out how many miles you drove and divide by 3.

I think that once you start getting both Philly & NYC TV stations you're in South Jersey. I consider the area between Princeton & Woodbridge to be Central Jersey.

The areas in which your local cable provider carries FSNY are towns in which the powers that be feel is North Jersey Centric.
The areas in which your local cable provider does not carry FSNY are towns in which the powers that be feel are South Jersey Centric.
There are a few exceptions, someone once told me that in Phillipsburg you cannot get FSNY on cable . Which is odd because there seems to be a good numb er of Devs fans in that town and even across the river in Easton.

I think that once you start getting both Philly & NYC TV stations you're in South Jersey. I consider the area between Princeton & Woodbridge to be Central Jersey.

I get both NY and Philly stations and I am no were along the lines of being consider south or north because I am in in dead center of NJ. Middlesex County is central Jersey so I dont get how people can think central jersey doesnt exist. Since at most takes takes me same time to reach far north as is it does to get far south. Its all about time/distance IMO


What I consider pretty much central Jersey : http://www.state.nj.us/turnpike/cmap.htm


However, If you really want to go out there with this NJ acutally was split East and West back in the day for a long time. Therefore, this whole concept about North, Central, and South Jersey can be thrown out the window because its really hard to agree on.

Somebody should do this: Start at the top of the Parkway and drive all the way down to the end of the Parkway. For instance, say it takes 2.5 hours(150 mins). The first 50 mins of the ride back up would be south jersey, the next 50 central jersey, and the last 50 mins north jersey. You could do something similar just find out how many miles you drove and divide by 3.

the last exit on the GSP before New York state is #172, which is Grand Ave. in Montvale. So, if you want, divide 172 by 3 and you get 57 1/3. So, by that definition, anything below exit 117 or mile marker 117 would be considered central jersey. Thats actually kind of interesting, because 117 is where the shore points exits begin around the area of Keyport. After that, south jersey would be everything below exit 60/mile marker 60, which is near Manahawkin.

sorry, i got bored.

I have a few friends that were from up north who now live in South N.J huge Devs fans one is still a partial plan holder.Cheaper housing in south jersey. If you think about it, it is possible that there is maybe more Rags and Criers fans in N.J than Devils fans.:shakehead

Totally not true. The shore is enough to prove you wrong. Not to mention places like Voorhees have houses that probably average at about $1 million per just because of a great school system. I would know (went to Eastern, live in middle class town of Gibbsboro, but had the benefit of going to a rich school). Last I heard it was ranked 7th in the state. Lots of Flyers live in Voorhees because its also where the practice facility is. If you go further south into Cumberland County housing is cheaper because a lot of it is Urban Redevelopment Programs and can sometimes have significant gang violence.

I got a feeling way in North Jersey has cheap housing. Mountainie places seem to be like that. I could be wrong. I should look that up sometime.

I really don't define or even use the term Central Jersey.

I really don't think you can define Central Jersey if you do not live in it. If you're in the north or south you define North Jersey and South Jersey. Only if you live(d) in Central Jersey do you really understand the identity of being a Central Jerseyite. You don't necessarily identify with the North or the South, but feel you could be part of either.

I think that once you start getting both Philly & NYC TV stations you're in South Jersey. I consider the area between Princeton & Woodbridge to be Central Jersey.

I think your definition of TV stations puts the South Jersey line too far north, but I think you're spot-on in defining the area between Princeton (maybe even Trenton) and Woodbridge as Central Jersey.

I really don't think you can define Central Jersey if you do not live in it. If you're in the north or south you define North Jersey and South Jersey. Only if you live(d) in Central Jersey do you really understand the identity of being a Central Jerseyite. You don't necessarily identify with the North or the South, but feel you could be part of either.



I think your definition of TV stations puts the South Jersey line too far north, but I think you're spot-on in defining the area between Princeton (maybe even Trenton) and Woodbridge as Central Jersey.

I like Trenton being a part of Central Jersey, from a north/south perspective because it is just north of the bend in the Delaware River and it is the State Captial. Bordentown is right on the bend and where Rand McNally splits New Jersey into two pages just south of 195.

Central NJ Counties: Middlesex, Monmouth, southern-half of Somerset, southern half of Hunterdon, and Mercer. If you're not sure where those halves would be, use Middlesex's northern border as a reference line.

If you're above those (or the upper halves of Somerset and Hunterdon), you're in North NJ. If below those, you're in South NJ.

And yes, there is most definitely a Central NJ. We got some shore in the east (Monmouth), some farm land in the west, plenty of highways to get to either North NJ, South NJ, or abroad, cities (e.g. New Brunswick) and wonderful suburbs (e.g. Edison). Anyone who tells you there is no Central NJ doesn't understand the concept of "central."

And talk about identity: I moved out of NJ for good in September 1995; lived in the Orlando, Florida area until 2001 and have lived in the Lancaster, PA area since (and will most likely remain here for decades). Yet, not only do I still think of myself as a New Jerseyite living elsewhere, but I also still feel like a Central Jerseyite.

Totally not true. The shore is enough to prove you wrong. Not to mention places like Voorhees have houses that probably average at about $1 million per just because of a great school system. I would know (went to Eastern, live in middle class town of Gibbsboro, but had the benefit of going to a rich school). Last I heard it was ranked 7th in the state. Lots of Flyers live in Voorhees because its also where the practice facility is. If you go further south into Cumberland County housing is cheaper because a lot of it is Urban Redevelopment Programs and can sometimes have significant gang violence.

I got a feeling way in North Jersey has cheap housing. Mountainie places seem to be like that. I could be wrong. I should look that up sometime.

Vorhees is a nice town, but it pales in comparison to many other exlusive NJ communites, which are primarily in the Northern & Central parts of the state:

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2006/7/NJ_Rank_1.html

Home prices by county:

http://www.njba.org/housingData/medianPrices.asp

I always think of it in terms of area codes. South Jersey is the original 609 area code (when we were just 201 and 609). Central NJ is much harder to define. You can cop out and say it is 732, but that is not totally accurate as 732 extends too far south. Another cop out is using roads and say Central Jersey is between 195 and 22.

Central Jersey is a state of mind. We aren't the hicks in the sticks of south jersey or the stereotypical big hair and accents of north jersey.

Amen.

Totally not true. The shore is enough to prove you wrong. Not to mention places like Voorhees have houses that probably average at about $1 million per just because of a great school system. I would know (went to Eastern, live in middle class town of Gibbsboro, but had the benefit of going to a rich school). Last I heard it was ranked 7th in the state. Lots of Flyers live in Voorhees because its also where the practice facility is. If you go further south into Cumberland County housing is cheaper because a lot of it is Urban Redevelopment Programs and can sometimes have significant gang violence.

I got a feeling way in North Jersey has cheap housing. Mountainie places seem to be like that. I could be wrong. I should look that up sometime.

Try buying a lot, yes just an empty lot, in Stone Harbor or Avalon for under a million. You might find an 80' x 30' lot in the $850k range. If you find a lot on the bay you're looking at $2.5+ million. Parts of South Jersey are some of the most expensive places to live in the state and even on the entire coast.

Quick link to look at...

Avalon (http://www.avalonrealty.com/index.php?page=buying&price=%3E0&town=avalon%2C+avalon+manor&location=&type=mls&thumbs=y&submit=1&x=15&y=6)

There are three sections of New Jersey.

1. North Jersey (Bergen County)
2. The Shore
3. South Jersey (Everywhere else)

There are three sections of New Jersey.

1. North Jersey (Bergen County)
2. The Shore
3. South Jersey (Everywhere else)So the Devils are now a South Jersey team in Newark (Essex).:sarcasm:

South Jersey people, especially the ones close to Philly, have annoying-ass accents.

They pronounce phone and tone and home and all words with a long "O" sound, really funny.

So the Devils are now a South Jersey team in Newark (Essex).:sarcasm:

Pretty much. For the record, the Delaware Water Gap, under my system, is in fact in South Jersey.

Try buying a lot, yes just an empty lot, in Stone Harbor or Avalon for under a million. You might find an 80' x 30' lot in the $850k range. If you find a lot on the bay you're looking at $2.5+ million. Parts of South Jersey are some of the most expensive places to live in the state and even on the entire coast.

Quick link to look at...

Avalon (http://www.avalonrealty.com/index.php?page=buying&price=%3E0&town=avalon%2C+avalon+manor&location=&type=mls&thumbs=y&submit=1&x=15&y=6)

Yeah, but it's the coastal areas and areas near Philadelphia in South Jersey that are expensive.

You can go further south and a bit west and get cheap as hell areas to live.

I got a feeling way in North Jersey has cheap housing. Mountainie places seem to be like that. I could be wrong. I should look that up sometime.

Unfortunately, nope.

Yeah, but it's the coastal areas and areas near Philadelphia in South Jersey that are expensive.

You can go further south and a bit west and get cheap as hell areas to live.

Agreed. However, you can say that about any place that's expensive to live. For every place thats expensive, theres a place not too far away that's not. If it wasn't that way then it would be expensive to live everywhere in the entire country. But this was exactly my point. :)

I got a feeling way in North Jersey has cheap housing. Mountainie places seem to be like that. I could be wrong. I should look that up sometime.

By way in North Jersey, do you mean Western Jersey? As in, the tip of Morris County, Sussex County, etc?

If so, you my friend are wrong! I live up in those neck of the woods, ya know where the bear live, and houses aren't cheap up here!

They pronounce phone and tone and home and all words with a long "O" sound, really funny.
I'm trying to figure out how to pronounce phone and tone without a long 'o.' I don't think it can be done.

I'm trying to figure out how to pronounce phone and tone without a long 'o.' I don't think it can be done.

It's more of an emphasis on the o' then a long o'. Where I go to school up here (or down) in Central NJ (yes, it actually exists if you live here :D), we've got quite a few people from southern NJ, and that's my take on the o' sound. I'm sure we sound a little funny to them as well however.

To me North, central and south is more of a culture instead of actual physical delinearizations.

North is more of a urban, industrial part of jersey. Central is full of suburbanites and the northern shhore people. South is all the native indians, and the southern laid back shore people.

I'm trying to figure out how to pronounce phone and tone without a long 'o.' I don't think it can be done.

I meant that all the words that DO have a long "o" sound, they pronounce them funny.

There's not a cheap house in New Jersey, get off of that.

Once you get past North Brunswick on Rte 1, you get much more of a Philly influence. That, to me, is the dividing point: the Rte 1 corridor from New Brunswick to Princeton. Two somewhat different cultures within 10-20 miles.

There's not a cheap house in New Jersey, get off of that.

There are plenty of cheap houses....take your pic....Camden, Willingboro any numbered street in Newark, Irvington, Phillipsburg, Keansburg, Asbury Park, just to name a few.

North Jersey ends right around Phillipsburg in the West and Elizabeth on the East side, you can almost draw a line between the 2.

Central Jersey starts there and extends to Trenton in the West and I'd go as far as Seaside in the East since so many Giants, Yanks and Devs fans live there.

Everything south of that is South Jersey.

By way in North Jersey, do you mean Western Jersey? As in, the tip of Morris County, Sussex County, etc?

If so, you my friend are wrong! I live up in those neck of the woods, ya know where the bear live, and houses aren't cheap up here!

Guess I was wrong. Hence I said "I got a feeling."

Anything below the Trenton line is South Jersey to me.

If somepone asked me on the street, "what is North Jersey, and South?" that is exactly what i would say without even having to think about it. Although i am from as far Noth in North Jersey you can get (vernon) i would say everything is south from There

Somebody should do this: Start at the top of the Parkway and drive all the way down to the end of the Parkway. For instance, say it takes 2.5 hours(150 mins). The first 50 mins of the ride back up would be south jersey, the next 50 central jersey, and the last 50 mins north jersey. You could do something similar just find out how many miles you drove and divide by 3.

There is a lot of the parkway that does not reach NW NJ

Originally Posted by CJ241 By way in North Jersey, do you mean Western Jersey? As in, the tip of Morris County, Sussex County, etc?
If so, you my friend are wrong! I live up in those neck of the woods, ya know where the bear live, and houses aren't cheap up here

Being in the Valley of the Appalachains and near the Ski Slopes is not cheap....And i used to see Bear all the time...definitely odd...
i have looked for houses in South Jersey and it is totally different. You can get new construction depending on where you are of course, for a decent price. Something that is out of the question in North Jersey, since you will get a cottage for that same decent price. But i guess it all depends.

There are plenty of cheap houses....take your pic....Camden, Willingboro any numbered street in Newark, Irvington, Phillipsburg, Keansburg, Asbury Park, just to name a few.

Haha. Asbury's getting much nicer, property value is getting up there.

Haha. Asbury's getting much nicer, property value is getting up there.

Asbury's alright, just alright. It is still a town largely comprised of undesirables and criminals. Property value is going up merely because of speculation of what is intended for that town. I know the plans for construction in place.

South is all the native indians, and the southern laid back shore people.

Native indians? Not sure where u got that information from but its incorrect.

Yeah, but it's the coastal areas and areas near Philadelphia in South Jersey that are expensive.

You can go further south and a bit west and get cheap as hell areas to live.

Your right about the coastal areas but the closer you get to philly the crappier and more run down the area gets. Place like Camden and Pennsauken are near philly and they are in no way expensive. You need to go a little more east and then the prices go way up. Ex. Moorestown.

Native indians? Not sure where u got that information from but its incorrect.

MoonDragn is referring to the Powhatan Renape Nation in Rancocas.

http://www.powhatan.org/

MoonDragn is referring to the Powhatan Renape Nation in Rancocas.

http://www.powhatan.org/

Yup. I bet alot of people live in Jersey all their life and never realize we have an indian reservation in NJ. Btw, I lived in NJ for almost 30 years, probably longer than some of the fans on here. I saw that sissy Ranger Jean commercial when it first came out.

PS> Heres a linke to the original inhabitants of Cumberland County : http://www.co.cumberland.nj.us/facts/history/unalachtigo/unalachtigo.html#2

Draw 2 lines across the state.

One goes roughly from Camden to Point Pleasant.

The other goes roughly from Lambertville to Perth Amboy.

Everything in the middle is central Jersey, with north and south obvioiusly lying above the top line and below the bottom line, respectively.

My 2c...

Several Questions

1) What exactly is the difference between North and Central Jersey?

2) Why do people consider Middlesex County to be Central Jersey?
-When I have been through NJ on the NJTP, to me, I would say North Jersey is defined as pure NY metro area.
-Middlesex County borders Staten Island, NYC, and is much closer to NYC than Philly, and built up.
-Thus I don't see how it differs from North Jersey and why people distinguish it.

-Further I really don't understand why Middlesex County would get PHI stations or have PHI fans. To me this borders on invasion of metro NY territory, for gosh sakes Middlesex County borders Staten Island, NYC, this should be pure NY.

-I thought, logically, Central Jersey was basically "no man's land" where allegiances go to either NY or PHI.
-It appears to me on the NJTP this is Mercer County, which is basically the half way point between the two cities and just out of the immediate metro region.

3) Speaking of Central Jersey, where exactly in NJ does it go from being metro NY, with NY stations and commuters to PHI based?
-I am from CT near Bridgeport, which is part of the NY metro region and has commuters going 65 miles into NYC.
-I don't understand why in NJ, going south on the NJTP it seems only 30 miles south of NYC it gets rural, or not nearly as built up as CT.
-Right around 8A, the 6-3 Car-Truck lane merge.
-I don't get why it appears the build up doesn't extend as much further south.
-I would have thought if people commute 65 miles from CT, the NJTP would be really built up 65 miles south of NYC given it's in between Philly too.

4) Is Trenton part of the PHI or NYC region?
-Do you get PHI, NY or both stations?
-What is the split of fans?
-I am confused because the city is closer to NYC than Bridgeport, CT which has commuters, yet is only 32 miles to PHI, closer than it is to NY.
-Is this truly a split town?
-Any reason why it is on the NYC not PHI US Census region?

5) Do you consider NJ to be a Northern or Mid Atlantic State?
-I always considered anywhere from the Mason Dixon Line up to be northern, considering DE, PA, and NJ are part of the PHI tri state region, and PHI being a northern city.
-Also NY, CT, and NJ being part of the NYC tri state region, also northern.
-Why then does it get labeled Mid Atlantic by some?
-Is it due to it being between New England and the south because culturally I'd consider it an insult to asscioate NJ as being mid atlantic, which is what I refer to Maryland and DC as being.
Mid Atlantic is slang for not good enough to be northern, southern, an identity crisis apathetic sports region.

6) Hicks. Is it true there are hicks in South Jersey?
-I'm shocked for a couple of reasons.
-Again I am shocked at how rural this county looks from the NJTP given its proximity to Philadelphia?
-I don’t get how you cross the Delaware Memorial Bridge, where it is built up, and you can see both Wilmington and Philadelphia, yet it looks rural?
-Someone familiar with Salem County and this region, can you describe it?
-What are the residents like, do they have southern accents and, no offense, hickish?

7) South Jersey
-Again I have been surprised to notice driving down the NJTP how rural SJ appears in contrast to North Jersey. In fact, when I was young, I was shocked to learn that Philadelphia bordered South Jersey because on the NJTP one gets the feeling you are out, again, in the sticks.
-Whereas in the New York region it is heavily built up and developed all along throughways like I-95 and the GSPkway in North Jersey, once you cross the Delaware Memorial Bridge into Salem County you would never guess you are so close to Philadelphia.
-Looking at a map I was stunned to see the NJTP runs within maybe 12 miles or so parallel to Philadelphia. This area of the NJTP has a lot of trees which easily mask any low density development. Contrast this to North Jersey where the road is 5 lanes or more with factories, high rises, all over. Again is it my illusion or is there an explanation for the contrast?
-I really have a hard time comprehending this because I always felt Philadelphia was a major metro region, yet the fact it's landscape is so undistinguished within 15 or so miles of center center seems contradictory.

Thanks!

Several Questions

1) What exactly is the difference between North and Central Jersey?

2) Why do people consider Middlesex County to be Central Jersey?
-When I have been through NJ on the NJTP, to me, I would say North Jersey is defined as pure NY metro area.
-Middlesex County borders Staten Island, NYC, and is much closer to NYC than Philly, and built up.
-Thus I don't see how it differs from North Jersey and why people distinguish it.

-Further I really don't understand why Middlesex County would get PHI stations or have PHI fans. To me this borders on invasion of metro NY territory, for gosh sakes Middlesex County borders Staten Island, NYC, this should be pure NY.

-I thought, logically, Central Jersey was basically "no man's land" where allegiances go to either NY or PHI.
-It appears to me on the NJTP this is Mercer County, which is basically the half way point between the two cities and just out of the immediate metro region.

3) Speaking of Central Jersey, where exactly in NJ does it go from being metro NY, with NY stations and commuters to PHI based?
-I am from CT near Bridgeport, which is part of the NY metro region and has commuters going 65 miles into NYC.
-I don't understand why in NJ, going south on the NJTP it seems only 30 miles south of NYC it gets rural, or not nearly as built up as CT.
-Right around 8A, the 6-3 Car-Truck lane merge.
-I don't get why it appears the build up doesn't extend as much further south.
-I would have thought if people commute 65 miles from CT, the NJTP would be really built up 65 miles south of NYC given it's in between Philly too.

4) Is Trenton part of the PHI or NYC region?
-Do you get PHI, NY or both stations?
-What is the split of fans?
-I am confused because the city is closer to NYC than Bridgeport, CT which has commuters, yet is only 32 miles to PHI, closer than it is to NY.
-Is this truly a split town?
-Any reason why it is on the NYC not PHI US Census region?

5) Do you consider NJ to be a Northern or Mid Atlantic State?
-I always considered anywhere from the Mason Dixon Line up to be northern, considering DE, PA, and NJ are part of the PHI tri state region, and PHI being a northern city.
-Also NY, CT, and NJ being part of the NYC tri state region, also northern.
-Why then does it get labeled Mid Atlantic by some?
-Is it due to it being between New England and the south because culturally I'd consider it an insult to asscioate NJ as being mid atlantic, which is what I refer to Maryland and DC as being.
Mid Atlantic is slang for not good enough to be northern, southern, an identity crisis apathetic sports region.

6) Hicks. Is it true there are hicks in South Jersey?
-I'm shocked for a couple of reasons.
-Again I am shocked at how rural this county looks from the NJTP given its proximity to Philadelphia?
-I don’t get how you cross the Delaware Memorial Bridge, where it is built up, and you can see both Wilmington and Philadelphia, yet it looks rural?
-Someone familiar with Salem County and this region, can you describe it?
-What are the residents like, do they have southern accents and, no offense, hickish?

7) South Jersey
-Again I have been surprised to notice driving down the NJTP how rural SJ appears in contrast to North Jersey. In fact, when I was young, I was shocked to learn that Philadelphia bordered South Jersey because on the NJTP one gets the feeling you are out, again, in the sticks.
-Whereas in the New York region it is heavily built up and developed all along throughways like I-95 and the GSPkway in North Jersey, once you cross the Delaware Memorial Bridge into Salem County you would never guess you are so close to Philadelphia.
-Looking at a map I was stunned to see the NJTP runs within maybe 12 miles or so parallel to Philadelphia. This area of the NJTP has a lot of trees which easily mask any low density development. Contrast this to North Jersey where the road is 5 lanes or more with factories, high rises, all over. Again is it my illusion or is there an explanation for the contrast?
-I really have a hard time comprehending this because I always felt Philadelphia was a major metro region, yet the fact it's landscape is so undistinguished within 15 or so miles of center center seems contradictory.

Thanks!


okay, you spent way too much time thinking about this.

yes, trenton gets philly stations

i personally consider monmouth and middlesex counties "central nj". new brunswick is called "the hub city" for a reason..

north jersey calls my city (perth amboy) south jersey. and south jersey calls us north jersey. meh. we're central.

Again

1) What is the difference between N and C NJ?
2) Why is Perth Amboy considered Central?
IT BORDERS NYC, IT IS N NJ.

Again

1) What is the difference between N and C NJ?
2) Why is Perth Amboy considered Central?
IT BORDERS NYC, IT IS N NJ.

Who really cares, it does not matter what some people call something.

Several Questions

1) What exactly is the difference between North and Central Jersey?

2) Why do people consider Middlesex County to be Central Jersey?
-When I have been through NJ on the NJTP, to me, I would say North Jersey is defined as pure NY metro area.
-Middlesex County borders Staten Island, NYC, and is much closer to NYC than Philly, and built up.
-Thus I don't see how it differs from North Jersey and why people distinguish it.

-Further I really don't understand why Middlesex County would get PHI stations or have PHI fans. To me this borders on invasion of metro NY territory, for gosh sakes Middlesex County borders Staten Island, NYC, this should be pure NY.

-I thought, logically, Central Jersey was basically "no man's land" where allegiances go to either NY or PHI.
-It appears to me on the NJTP this is Mercer County, which is basically the half way point between the two cities and just out of the immediate metro region.

3) Speaking of Central Jersey, where exactly in NJ does it go from being metro NY, with NY stations and commuters to PHI based?
-I am from CT near Bridgeport, which is part of the NY metro region and has commuters going 65 miles into NYC.
-I don't understand why in NJ, going south on the NJTP it seems only 30 miles south of NYC it gets rural, or not nearly as built up as CT.
-Right around 8A, the 6-3 Car-Truck lane merge.
-I don't get why it appears the build up doesn't extend as much further south.
-I would have thought if people commute 65 miles from CT, the NJTP would be really built up 65 miles south of NYC given it's in between Philly too.

4) Is Trenton part of the PHI or NYC region?
-Do you get PHI, NY or both stations?
-What is the split of fans?
-I am confused because the city is closer to NYC than Bridgeport, CT which has commuters, yet is only 32 miles to PHI, closer than it is to NY.
-Is this truly a split town?
-Any reason why it is on the NYC not PHI US Census region?

5) Do you consider NJ to be a Northern or Mid Atlantic State?
-I always considered anywhere from the Mason Dixon Line up to be northern, considering DE, PA, and NJ are part of the PHI tri state region, and PHI being a northern city.
-Also NY, CT, and NJ being part of the NYC tri state region, also northern.
-Why then does it get labeled Mid Atlantic by some?
-Is it due to it being between New England and the south because culturally I'd consider it an insult to asscioate NJ as being mid atlantic, which is what I refer to Maryland and DC as being.
Mid Atlantic is slang for not good enough to be northern, southern, an identity crisis apathetic sports region.

6) Hicks. Is it true there are hicks in South Jersey?
-I'm shocked for a couple of reasons.
-Again I am shocked at how rural this county looks from the NJTP given its proximity to Philadelphia?
-I don’t get how you cross the Delaware Memorial Bridge, where it is built up, and you can see both Wilmington and Philadelphia, yet it looks rural?
-Someone familiar with Salem County and this region, can you describe it?
-What are the residents like, do they have southern accents and, no offense, hickish?

7) South Jersey
-Again I have been surprised to notice driving down the NJTP how rural SJ appears in contrast to North Jersey. In fact, when I was young, I was shocked to learn that Philadelphia bordered South Jersey because on the NJTP one gets the feeling you are out, again, in the sticks.
-Whereas in the New York region it is heavily built up and developed all along throughways like I-95 and the GSPkway in North Jersey, once you cross the Delaware Memorial Bridge into Salem County you would never guess you are so close to Philadelphia.
-Looking at a map I was stunned to see the NJTP runs within maybe 12 miles or so parallel to Philadelphia. This area of the NJTP has a lot of trees which easily mask any low density development. Contrast this to North Jersey where the road is 5 lanes or more with factories, high rises, all over. Again is it my illusion or is there an explanation for the contrast?
-I really have a hard time comprehending this because I always felt Philadelphia was a major metro region, yet the fact it's landscape is so undistinguished within 15 or so miles of center center seems contradictory.

Thanks!To answer one of your questions About "hicks" there is plenty in northwest N.J a lot of farmland go out far enough on rts. 78,80,22 you'll be out in the sticks. South jersey has what are called "Pine Ticks" rednecks from the pinebarrens. Yes Im a New Jersey Devils fan and a redneck none the less.:toothless I was at a Devils drumming of NYR last year at MSG and was being a cocky *******. A snobby 5th AVE. gal had told me to enjoy your ride home in your pickup truck. Get R' Done.:D