Edmonton - New Jersey proposals

booon*
08-21-2007, 02:59 AM
on the oilers board, it said eklund said the oilers and devils are talking trade. here are some ideas from our board, what do you think?
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=411133

elias for Schremp and chorney




To EDM:

Martin, Gionta

To NJ:

Horcoff, Chorney, Schremp




To Edm: Martin and Parise

To NJ: Horcoff, Schremp, Chorney




Martin + Gionta
for
Horcoff + Schremp + Chorney



To Edmonton: Elias, Martin
To NJ: Horcoff, Smid, Pouliot or O'Marra




Horcoff for Martin



parise + futures for jaques and pouliet

Feed Me A Stray Cat
08-21-2007, 03:03 AM
Uh, everyone one of these trades is horrendously awful.

Cloned
08-21-2007, 03:05 AM
I should qualify all the proposals in that thread as trying to follow Eklund's "blueprint."

I don't normally think Horcoff, Chorney and Schremp is fair value for Martin and Gionta, but Eklund said Horcoff + 2 big prospects for Martin + a big name.

bense27
08-21-2007, 03:05 AM
meh.

ALine9900
08-21-2007, 03:05 AM
To Edm: Martin and Parise

To NJ: Horcoff, Schremp, Chorney

Tough decision...

Feed Me A Stray Cat
08-21-2007, 03:06 AM
To Edm: Martin and Parise

To NJ: Horcoff, Schremp, Chorney

Tough decision...

Your post is ripe with sarcasm (hopefully)?

Cloned
08-21-2007, 03:09 AM
I know the criticism will come (and justifiably so from those proposals), but please keep in mind what I posted above.

I would also add in most Oiler fans defense that many of our posters in that thread noted that there is no way that NJ would trade Martin + a big name for Horcoff + 2 prospects as Eklund postulated. What we did was go over a few possibilities but the conclusion by most of the level-headed fans was that the Devils wouldn't do it (it being most of the proposals).

ALine9900
08-21-2007, 03:15 AM
Your post is ripe with sarcasm (hopefully)?

Haha yes!

crashlanding
08-21-2007, 03:17 AM
Parise and Gionta would be untouchables IMO. If you want to know who the big name could possibly be, I'd say Madden (maybe not as big as you'd hope, but as far as shutdown centers go he's a big name).

Following stupid logic you could say that Lowe is looking to replace Peca.

Devils Mike
08-21-2007, 03:43 AM
Can anyone quit trying to trade Gionta? Seriously, where has the love gone away? He's our best goal scorer and has been going through a tough year this year since he was injured throughtout most of it.

Meth Elvis
08-21-2007, 04:54 AM
Can anyone quit trying to trade Gionta? Seriously, where has the love gone away? He's our best goal scorer and has been going through a tough year this year since he was injured throughtout most of it.

Umm an oiler fan made this proposal not a devils fan. No love lost bro.

fIREnIcE
08-21-2007, 06:10 AM
a nice laugh to kick start the morning.....the parise plus futures is classic

keep up the good work booner

Jason MacIsaac
08-21-2007, 06:11 AM
parise + futures for jaques and pouliet ...that made my night lol

fIREnIcE
08-21-2007, 06:25 AM
parise + futures for jaques and pouliet ...that made my night lol

heheh good times right....


Parise, Martin and Gionta for MacTavish's helmet :sarcasm:

Devilswede
08-21-2007, 07:36 AM
The Oilers just don't have anything we'd trade our best players for. We can give you Mike Rupp in exchange for Torres, but that's it.

Who in their right fram of mind would trade away a budding superstar in Parise and also Martin in exchange for a checker like Horcoff and a couple of 2:nd tier prospects? Oilers fans of course. Keep dreaming!

basketcase78
08-21-2007, 09:21 AM
Um. No. Horcoff is not worth any of our big names. The only player on Edmonton I'd have any interest in would be Pitkanen. That is the only player on Edmonton's roster I would trade Gionta for and I would be fine with a straight up trade. However, realizing Edmonton has just acquired Pitkanen this summer, it makes zero sense for them to trade him right away.

Spawn
08-21-2007, 09:21 AM
Who in their right fram of mind would trade away a budding superstar in Parise and also Martin in exchange for a checker like Horcoff and a couple of 2:nd tier prospects? Oilers fans of course. Keep dreaming!

Most Oiler fans as Cloned has already said have agreed that this makes no sense for the Devils. All these trade "proposals" were speculation on what Eklund said, that it would be Martin and a "big name" player for Horcoff and two prospects. Oiler fans didn't dream this up, they were just speculating. It's summer, theres nothing else to talk about :dunno:
parise + futures for jaques and pouliet ...that made my night lol

I believe it was a joke by an Oiler fan in reference to when Lowe traded down with New Jersey so they could draft Pouliot, and JFJ with the 2nd they got from the devils.

JimEIV
08-21-2007, 09:40 AM
No offense.....But the Oilers don't have a single thing that would land them 1 of Elias, Gionta or Parise ---Let alone some sort of Package including Martin....


Might be one of the worst post I've seen on these boards in a while.....

Yeah, please can we give you a 40 goal/90 point scorer and a 25 minute a game defensemen with offensive upside for a few second tier players....Please, please...we want in :shakehead :banghead:

MoonDragn
08-21-2007, 10:05 AM
Think unless we get 4 first round draft picks for 2008/2009, we're not gonna go for any trades with our big names.

Classic Devil
08-21-2007, 10:33 AM
Sorry Cloned, those trades are some of the worst proposals I've seen in a long time.

Devilsfanatic
08-21-2007, 10:40 AM
Horcoff sucks

MissionHockey
08-21-2007, 12:17 PM
on the oilers board, it said eklund said the oilers and devils are talking trade. here are some ideas from our board, what do you think?
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=411133

elias for Schremp and chorney




To EDM:

Martin, Gionta

To NJ:

Horcoff, Chorney, Schremp




To Edm: Martin and Parise

To NJ: Horcoff, Schremp, Chorney




Martin + Gionta
for
Horcoff + Schremp + Chorney



To Edmonton: Elias, Martin
To NJ: Horcoff, Smid, Pouliot or O'Marra




Horcoff for Martin



parise + futures for jaques and pouliet

Doesn't outlandish trade proposals warrant some kind of ban?

TaiMaiShu
08-21-2007, 12:45 PM
Brutal to say the least.

sveiglar
08-21-2007, 12:53 PM
To EDM:
Martin, Gionta

To NJ:
Horcoff, Chorney, Schremp


Absolutely terrible.


Martin + Gionta
for
Horcoff + Schremp + Chorney


Now THAT'S much better!

Alcoolique
08-21-2007, 12:58 PM
...Gionta is like the perfect prototycal New Jersey Devil.He never gives up, (even if he's 5.7.)Plus, he can scores 30-40Goals, Which at 4millions is very Ok.

Ok..So to those Edmonton proprosals..We should trade our Number one defensemen+Number one right wing, Versus a BOOM/BUST prospect, Number two Center and an other prospect.












:help:

crashlanding
08-21-2007, 01:07 PM
Absolutely terrible.



Now THAT'S much better!
Haha, that's pretty funny.

Hirnalon
08-21-2007, 01:08 PM
The only player who im interested in from the Oilers is Hemsky, but since he is untouchable, I don't care, just don't make any stupid moves Lou. That's not your style :P

Valic
08-21-2007, 02:39 PM
2nd worst group of proposals ever.... and I'm an Oiler fan.

Giggli G
08-21-2007, 03:06 PM
Everyone thought that Eklund's post was pretty ridiculous. But it's pretty clear that they were going with what he said the outline of the trade was when making these proposals. I could see Horcoff+Chorney+pick for Gionta being fair value, but it's not a deal that either team would do.

Darius Dangleaitis
08-21-2007, 03:06 PM
Absolutely terrible.



Now THAT'S much better!

:biglaugh:

Yeah all those trades are retarded. No way you trade Gionta or Martin for unproven players like Chorney, Pouliot, Jacques, O'Marra, or Schremp.

booon*
08-21-2007, 03:47 PM
Doesn't outlandish trade proposals warrant some kind of ban?
don't shoot the messenger, not my proposals. i had opinions on these proposals, but wanted NJD's as well too

when trade proposals happen on the oilers board, its always some variation with schremp+horcoff . when eklund says 2 prospects, of coarse, its 2 of the most overrated ones in schremp and jaques. when it says "big name prospect" its funny that there was no mention of gagner+cogliano , instead, its the 2 ones we want to dump because schremp is terrible defensively and can't skate, and jaques has played something like 40 games so far and hasn't had a point yet

Cloned
08-21-2007, 04:40 PM
Sorry Cloned, those trades are some of the worst proposals I've seen in a long time.

Which was to be expected, considering we were trying to follow Eklund's guidelines -- which didn't leave much room to "even out" the proposals.

Gunnar Stahl 30
08-21-2007, 04:52 PM
on the oilers board, it said eklund said the oilers and devils are talking trade. here are some ideas from our board, what do you think?
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=411133

elias for Schremp and chorney




To EDM:

Martin, Gionta

To NJ:

Horcoff, Chorney, Schremp




To Edm: Martin and Parise

To NJ: Horcoff, Schremp, Chorney




Martin + Gionta
for
Horcoff + Schremp + Chorney



To Edmonton: Elias, Martin
To NJ: Horcoff, Smid, Pouliot or O'Marra




Horcoff for Martin



parise + futures for jaques and pouliet

ive seen shremp play in the minors on many ocasions and he is not really that great, he obviously has great stick handleing skill
him at a wbs skills comp (http://youtube.com/watch?v=IwovbIyPYJk)
and
him on tsn (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Rw6rJO2KrHo)

but he is not nhl ready yet and im not sure if he is ever going to be. atleast not for us

Elias to Parise
08-21-2007, 04:57 PM
I just threw up in my mouth.

1025*
08-21-2007, 05:57 PM
no way Oilers fans would want this,

they'd want a swap of Roloson and Brodeur to even it out, just like their Cup parade their planning already.

PromNite
08-21-2007, 10:53 PM
In before the lock...!

And I really, really hope there is a lock. ;)

JimEIV
08-21-2007, 11:15 PM
In before the lock...!

And I really, really hope there is a lock. ;)

Nahhh. We're used to it. We just like to point and laugh now

Jason MacIsaac
08-22-2007, 01:33 AM
Absolutely terrible.



Now THAT'S much better!

What about this :

Brian Gionta + Paul Martin
for
Schremp, Chorney.....and Horcoff

Gunnar Stahl 30
08-22-2007, 01:36 AM
What about this :

Brian Gionta + Paul Martin
for
Schremp, Chorney.....and Horcoff

no..................still

Gunnar Stahl 30
08-22-2007, 01:43 AM
the only thing i would want from the oilers is Souray and i cant see that happening




go ahead all you Anti-Sourayers let me have it