Prudential Center talk (version 2.0)

All the Prudential Center discussion should be continued here.

Link to the old thread (http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=340039)

Been very busy this summer and hadnt had time to post much this summer, but here is the opening bands for the bon jovi concerts....

October 25 & 26 - My Chemical Romance
October 28 & 30 - Big & Rich
November 1 & 3 - Gretchen Wilson
November 4 & 7 - Daughtry
November 9 & 10 - The All-American Rejects

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/20/arts/20arts.html?ref=arts


...By the way from what Ive heard and seen the prudential center is really coming along well... My friends send me "live" construction photos on a weekly basis. I have about 50 photos from the summer and the construction process.

I can not wait for the first home game and many more!

Go Devils!!!

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/4483/suitelevel1alllitupandszs4.jpg

Heres a pic from the contruction site!

...By the way from what Ive heard and seen the prudential center is really coming along well... My friends send me "live" construction photos on a weekly basis. I have about 50 photos from the summer and the construction process.

well, put em all on imageshack and post em!

Been very busy this summer and hadnt had time to post much this summer, but here is the opening bands for the bon jovi concerts....

October 25 & 26 - My Chemical Romance
October 28 & 30 - Big & Rich
November 1 & 3 - Gretchen Wilson
November 4 & 7 - Daughtry
November 9 & 10 - The All-American Rejects

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/20/arts/20arts.html?ref=arts


...By the way from what Ive heard and seen the prudential center is really coming along well... My friends send me "live" construction photos on a weekly basis. I have about 50 photos from the summer and the construction process.

I can not wait for the first home game and many more!

Go Devils!!!

I just saw My Chemical Romance at the Nissan Pavillion in Virginia this past Sunday. Along with Linkin' Park. They were Awesome! The weather was great and they rocked. Both bands were impressed by the singing of the crowd and everyone had lots of fun.

http://editorial.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?assettype=image&artist=Bruce+Bennett

Curiosity, but why a new thread?

Curiosity, but why a new thread?
The other one reached 1000 posts. Threads with more than 1000 posts can cause problems for the site (I believe).

The other one reached 1000 posts. Threads with more than 1000 posts can cause problems for the site (I believe).

Ah I see. Is this board phpBB? I've moderated on a couple bigger ones, and can't speak for all message boards but for those it wasn't the size of the threads that would slow the board up, but the amount of threads.

I realize how OT I am, sorry.

#76154315 Looks sick

#76154315 Looks sick

+1 :yo:

edit: for those of you too lazy to look for it:

http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/76154315.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1930B795A2A51A4A7FC6CB0B7D80052EFE5

All the Prudential Center discussion should be continued here.

Link to the old thread (http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=340039)

You just didn't want a Rangers fan as the Prudential Center thread starter. ;)

http://devils.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=336116


New pics on the devils website

Even newer gallery put up today. They are installing the Terrace Tables.
http://devils.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=MediaGalleryPlayer&galleryId=2215

Wow, the terrace tables look great. That's exactly where I'd want to sit if I could.

People keep telling me its going to be a mess to goto Devils games citing morning and evening commutes to Newark (for people going to and from work).

And also, that there is a lack of parking for those coming from the south of the city.

Can anyone who goes to Newark day in and day out explain the commute situation?

Even newer gallery put up today. They are installing the Terrace Tables.
http://devils.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=MediaGalleryPlayer&galleryId=2215

****ING SWEET!

Wow, the terrace tables look great. That's exactly where I'd want to sit if I could.

Same here…unfortunately, they made those tables available similar to the way they sell the suites – you get those tables for every event at the arena. Would’ve been nice to get those seats for at least one game next year, but guess that isn’t happening.

People keep telling me its going to be a mess to goto Devils games citing morning and evening commutes to Newark (for people going to and from work).

And also, that there is a lack of parking for those coming from the south of the city.

Can anyone who goes to Newark day in and day out explain the commute situation?

Hopefully it’s not as bad for Devils fans considering we’ll be commuting into the city vs. workers trying to leave the city. I’ve driven in there on occasion after work to pick someone up from Penn Station & it didn’t seem that bad.

Not sure about the parking situation, but why would it be worse depending on which direction you’re coming from?

People coming in from the North can park at Harrison and take a PATH in.

People coming in from the South don't have that option.

People coming in from the North can park at Harrison and take a PATH in.

People coming in from the South don't have that option.

Ah...gotcha...

Is there a lot of parking at the Harrison PATH station? I may consider doing that on weeknights instead of driving in or going all the way home to Hoboken since I work out west.

Ah...gotcha...

Is there a lot of parking at the Harrison PATH station? I may consider doing that on weeknights instead of driving in or going all the way home to Hoboken since I work out west.

All the Parking info for all the PATH stops can be found here:

http://www.panynj.gov/CommutingTravel/path/pdfs/NEW_ParkingGuide.pdf

People coming in from the North can park at Harrison and take a PATH in.

People coming in from the South don't have that option.

Hudson County folk can take the NJ Transit lightrail to either Hoboken Terminal or Newport/Pavonia and take the PATH from those stations. That's what I'll be doing.

People keep telling me its going to be a mess to goto Devils games citing morning and evening commutes to Newark (for people going to and from work).

And also, that there is a lack of parking for those coming from the south of the city.

Can anyone who goes to Newark day in and day out explain the commute situation?

I'll answer that.

During pm rush hour, it's usually brutal downtown, but it does empty out around 6:30 or so. But with this arena, it's gonna get worse, especially on Route 21.

As far as the parking situation goes, basically it'll be like the Verizon Center(or even MSG to a small degree). If you're not a club seat holder you're gonna have to park in public lots/garages a couple blocks away(whether they be at Penn Station/the Hilton Hotel or Mulberry Street just north of the arena). They have not started building a public garage yet, only the attached one for club seat guys.

Hence why they built it 2 blocks from Penn Station. Therefore, unless you absolutely must drive, DON'T DRIVE IN(weekends might be a different story, but still...). Folks from Bergen County switch a Secaucus, or take a light rail from North Bergen Twp. to Exchange Place in Jersey City and take a ride into Newark Penn. Or take the 76 bus from Hackensack, Hasbrouck Heights, etc. They run late and it's cheaper than parking.

If anyone is south of the arena and thinking of driving to games, esp. weeknights, you're crazy.

People keep telling me its going to be a mess to goto Devils games citing morning and evening commutes to Newark (for people going to and from work).

And also, that there is a lack of parking for those coming from the south of the city.

Can anyone who goes to Newark day in and day out explain the commute situation?

It won't be bad. It's strictly a 9 to 5 downtown core, like almost every American city. Vehicular & rail traffic head inbound during the morning rush and outbound during the afternoon/evening. So the only people heading to downtown Newark at 4:00 pm or later, either by car or train, will be Devils fans heading to the game. All the traffic will be going the other way, away from the city.

People coming in from the North can park at Harrison and take a PATH in.

People coming in from the South don't have that option.

There are 3 rail lines south of the arena that go directly into Penn Station; you realize that right?

http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/9867/img6621ji9.jpg

There are 3 rail lines south of the arena that go directly into Penn Station; you realize that right?

The NE Corridor has major stops along the way: New Brunswick, Metro Park, Rahway Linden. You can drive to those train stations, park, and take the train from there.

Same thing with the Jersey Coast Line, lots of stops from Bay Head, Point Pleasant, Belmar, Red Bank, South Amboy, Woodbridge to name a few.

And the other line that runs through Somerville,Bound Brook, Westfield, Cranford, Union

http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/9867/img6621ji9.jpg

i hope thats not the only parking lot:sarcasm:.......but seriously

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"As far as the parking situation goes, basically it'll be like the Verizon Center(or even MSG to a small degree). If you're not a club seat holder you're gonna have to park in public lots/garages a couple blocks away(whether they be at Penn Station/the Hilton Hotel or Mulberry Street just north of the arena). They have not started building a public garage yet, only the attached one for club seat guys."

I do not think they have begun to build any garage, even for club seat or suite ticket holders. I have club seats and am supposed to get 1 parking pass for the garage. I was down there 2 weeks ago and there was no sign of construction of any garage. They locked me into a 5 year agreement with the promise of free parking in the garage attached to the arena. If this is not open by the beginning of the season (which I am sure it won't be if they haven't started construction), I wonder if this is grounds to break my contract.

It takes about a month to put up one of those garages....so, I don't see why it wouldn't be up.

But if it's not up, give them a little breathing room. I'd rather they worry about finishing the arena, then building a parking garage.

http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/9867/img6621ji9.jpg


this parking lot will be "triangle park", it wont be there for parking.

And yes Parking garages only take a month at the most to put up, they already have the area marked off and cleared for the parking garage!

I also agree and it is true, traffic will be HELL on 21, 280, etc..... around rush hour getting to the game. Which with the 7 oclock starts it wont be easy getting to the games driving an hour away!.................BUT, traffic in new Jersey SUCKS every where! So whats the difference!

I do not think they have begun to build any garage, even for club seat or suite ticket holders. I have club seats and am supposed to get 1 parking pass for the garage. I was down there 2 weeks ago and there was no sign of construction of any garage. They locked me into a 5 year agreement with the promise of free parking in the garage attached to the arena. If this is not open by the beginning of the season (which I am sure it won't be if they haven't started construction), I wonder if this is grounds to break my contract.


It's already been started. I was down there on Monday. The structure has been put into place on the Broad Street side(behind the old CNJ rail building) next to the new office/practice facility.

this parking lot will be "triangle park", it wont be there for parking.

And yes Parking garages only take a month at the most to put up, they already have the area marked off and cleared for the parking garage!

I also agree and it is true, traffic will be HELL on 21, 280, etc..... around rush hour getting to the game. Which with the 7 oclock starts it wont be easy getting to the games driving an hour away!.................BUT, traffic in new Jersey SUCKS every where! So whats the difference!

I took 280 to all of the Devils games last year, and it's really not as bad as you think.

Taking Rt. 46 was worse than taking 280 (the reason for us taking 280)!

But, if you know your way around there, you can take side streets instead of getting on 21!

Someone asked a question earlier about parking at the Harrison PATH station. There's a ton -- both covered and uncovered lots in the shadow of the platform. Lots of NYC commuters park there for the day and leave between 5-8 to go home, so getting a spot if you're on your way to the game shouldn't be a problem on a weeknight.

Also a general comment on traveling to/from games. Most people in the Devils fan base live within a walk or a short-to-medium drive to a train station that will allow them to ride the rails right to the game. It's the easiest, safest, greenest and least stressful solution. I take NJ Transit trains to and from work every day and yes, there are delays/breakdowns/general incompetence and indifference among staff that can be maddening. But for the most part it's smooth sailing. Whether you're coming into NWK for a game from the hinterlands or on your way home from a job in NYC, you'll have no worries about traffic or parking. The only potential issue is whether there will be enough trains leaving NWK for the 'burbs after games (right now they generally run on the hour after about 9:30 -- at least on my line). Hopefully NJT will add some trains on game nights, though I'm not holding my breath for such an outcome.

I took 280 to all of the Devils games last year, and it's really not as bad as you think.

Taking Rt. 46 was worse than taking 280 (the reason for us taking 280)!

But, if you know your way around there, you can take side streets instead of getting on 21!

that is correct about 46. Rt 46 between wayne and rt. 3 has to be the worst traffic stretch in northern NJ. besides the fact that there has been construction on that stretch for the last, it seems like no matter what time of day its backed up!

last year I took 80 to exit 19 GSP to rt. 3 to alot of games to avoid 46. Much easier.


I am sure Come december we all will have our own, easiest, most convienent way of getting to the game. Whether its driving, train, or whatever. by mid season it will be like we have been doing it for years....

I drive into Newark 2-3 times a week at between 5-6 PM. Traffic really isn't that bad at all at that time since everyone is leaving. I like to take exit 56 on 78 (coming from the south) and go up Irving Turner Boulevard.

yeah rt. 46 is really bad around the clock. I know I live right by the Willowbrook mall. rt. 21 is going to be a cake walk compared to 46 at rush hour.

also 3 new groups of pics are up on the Devs site (decent pics) they are kickin ass on the scoreboard it looks amazing!!!!
http://devils.nhl.com/team/app?service=page&page=MediaGalleryBrowser&type=4

Has anyone heard anything about partial season plans yet?

I always hated living in my dorm in Manhattan because I don't get Versus and can't watch games. But now I'm excited because I'm a block from a PATH station and can get to games easier. Last year I had to go to Grand Central and catch an not-too-cheap event bus to CAA. This year, $1.50 on the PATH train, yee haw.

Has anyone heard anything about partial season plans yet?

Yeah...check the Tickets thread.

looks to me like it will be a very nice arena!

Restraunt is looking ****ing awesome!

I always hated living in my dorm in Manhattan because I don't get Versus and can't watch games. But now I'm excited because I'm a block from a PATH station and can get to games easier. Last year I had to go to Grand Central and catch an not-too-cheap event bus to CAA. This year, $1.50 on the PATH train, yee haw.

Are you at NYU?

Restraunt is looking ****ing awesome!
The best part is that it's open to the arena. Going to the one in Philly isn't that great because it's glassed off and you miss a lot of the sounds of the game.

Are you at NYU?

Yup.

Seeing all the progress being made on a daily basis is getting me so pumped for 10/27, I just can't stand it anymore. Posting daily pictures is by far the smartest thing the brain surgeons in the marketing department have come up with since they fired that ridiculous puck mascot.

Seeing all the progress being made on a daily basis is getting me so pumped for 10/27, I just can't stand it anymore. Posting daily pictures is by far the smartest thing the brain surgeons in the marketing department have come up with since they fired that ridiculous puck mascot.

Yeah, I mean that building looks better than the renderings by far! And I never feel that way about development projects. I'm glad they went with the scoreboard from the original model and not that four-sided one they had in the brochure.

Seeing all the progress being made on a daily basis is getting me so pumped for 10/27, I just can't stand it anymore. Posting daily pictures is by far the smartest thing the brain surgeons in the marketing department have come up with since they fired that ridiculous puck mascot.

I couldn’t agree with you more – putting up daily pictures is great. I can’t remember ever being this excited for an upcoming season.

I think the daily pictures may have something to do with a couple of guys (sorry, I forget who) that emailed them about setting up an interior webcam now that the outside is finished. I didn't think they'd go for it just because it would give a clear view of how much work they are or are not doing. Nobody likes to have someone looking over their shoulder.

So they did the next best thing, they decided to show the progress with pictures. I actually prefer it to a webcam because the quality is better and they show you exactly where progress has been made.

Anyone know the cheapest way to get from Philly to Newark on a train?

Anyone know the cheapest way to get from Philly to Newark on a train?
I'm not too familiar with Philly's rail system but it looks like you take the R7 to Trenton and then you can go to the NE Corridor on NJTransit which will take you to the arena.

It looks like it will cost between $30-35 round trip.

I'm not too familiar with Philly's rail system but it looks like you take the R7 to Trenton and then you can go to the NE Corridor on NJTransit which will take you to the arena.

It looks like it will cost between $30-35 round trip.

Don't think you need to do that. I believe the NE corridor train runs through Philly.

Don't think you need to do that. I believe the NE corridor train runs through Philly.
It doesn't, Trenton is the last stop. There's also Amtrak, but that is definitely not the cheapest.

It doesn't, Trenton is the last stop. There's also Amtrak, but that is definitely not the cheapest.

I'm thinking of Amtrak yes, It goes from Phily to Newark. It is not that much more than NJ transit if I remember correctly. I had to get a ticket last time for my ex-gf.

PS. Looked it up... $45 from Philadelphia 30th st station to Newark. Alternatively you can take the Greyhound bus from phily to newark for $21. You could take the Septa to Trenton and then transfer to NJ transit, but it takes as long as taking the greyhound. If you want to get there in 70 mins Amtrak is the fastest way. Takes 2 hours by greyhound/Septa-NJ transit.

Nice picture of the scoreboard!

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/7062/untitledts2.png

If you want absolute cheapest, time is no object this is the way to go:

PATCO to Broadway Station ($2.30 round trip)
RiverLine from Walter Rand Transp Center to Trenton RR Sta ($2.50 RT)
NJTransit from Trenton to Newark $15.75 round trip.

A total of $20.55 round trip. The R7/NJTransit route will cost you $31.75, Greyhound will cost you $40 and Amtrak $90.

That is one sweet Jumbotron. You boys in jersey will have the best arena after this is done.

Nice picture of the scoreboard!

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/7062/untitledts2.png

Holy crap thats a scoreboard? Looks like the master computer from hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy!

Mike & the Maddog just had the guy from the NJ Expo on. They were making it sound like there was a good chance the Newark Arena would not be ready by Oct. 29. George (whatever his name was) said as former tenants he would allow the Devils to play home games at the CAA.

I have no clue of the progress. Anyone think its possible that the arena will not be ready by Oct. 29?

That is one sweet Jumbotron. You boys in jersey will have the best arena after this is done.

This team's come a long way. I remember going to Devils games in the Meadowlands before there ever was a center scoreboard. The only videos were the ones in the corners.

Mike & the Maddog just had the guy from the NJ Expo on. They were making it sound like there was a good chance the Newark Arena would not be ready by Oct. 29. George (whatever his name was) said as former tenants he would allow the Devils to play home games at the CAA.

I have no clue of the progress. Anyone think its possible that the arena will not be ready by Oct. 29?

What would you expect someone from the NJSEA to say? They are competitors and the Newark arena absolutely drives them nuts as not only is that 42+ more dates they have to fill but it is another venue that can/will steal concerts, ice shows, etc from the CAA errrrrrr Meadowlands Arena.

What would you expect someone from the NJSEA to say? They are competitors and the Newark arena absolutely drives them nuts as not only is that 42+ more dates they have to fill but it is another venue that can/will steal concerts, ice shows, etc from the CAA errrrrrr Meadowlands Arena.

Yeah, I know. But Mike and Chris brought it up. I wouldn't think they'd have an ax to grind.

I'm just wondering how far along the arena is.

If you want absolute cheapest, time is no object this is the way to go:

PATCO to Broadway Station ($2.30 round trip)
RiverLine from Walter Rand Transp Center to Trenton RR Sta ($2.50 RT)
NJTransit from Trenton to Newark $15.75 round trip.

A total of $20.55 round trip. The R7/NJTransit route will cost you $31.75, Greyhound will cost you $40 and Amtrak $90.

That seems reasonable. I was just looking for alternatives to driving because I'm concerned about the parking situation in Newark.

Yeah, I know. But Mike and Chris brought it up. I wouldn't think they'd have an ax to grind.

I'm just wondering how far along the arena is.

They don't and from what I've heard from someone I know who works there is that they DO think it will be ready by the 29th but it will be a really no frills arena at that point without all of the minor things done. But I would be willing to bet that they will never play another game at CAA.

anyone know what the price tag is on the scoreboard? it makes the one at CAA look like a tv from like the early 80's... damn I can't wait :hyper:

the Pru will be ready...and btw the opener is on Oct. 27th

They don't and from what I've heard from someone I know who works there is that they DO think it will be ready by the 29th but it will be a really no frills arena at that point without all of the minor things done. But I would be willing to bet that they will never play another game at CAA.

Thanks for the update, Jon. I hope its done in time, frills and all. Two months can creep up on you pretty quick.

Thanks for the update, Jon. I hope its done in time, frills and all. Two months can creep up on you pretty quick.

Well, it's 99% unlikely that all of the "frills" will be there. I wouldn't worry about that until November or December as I think that's more of the "expected" time line to have EVERY SINGLE thing done. At least if I've heard correctly.

Exactly. The cosmetics of the place won't be done, as well as the practice facility(not important), surrounding area, etc. but it should be ready for events and games though.

Thats awesome it will be ready by October 29th. But what about October 27th??? Or better yet, October 25th for Bon Jovi.
The bottom line is this arena needs to be about 95% finished by about
October 10th so they can test everything before it needs to be used on the first concert date.

There have been instances with stadiums in the very near past, where upholstery, cabinets, and furniture were literally being installed in the last few hours before the first event. It's gonna be close, but it should be done in time.

Thats not to say there wont be a few things missing here and there, like a hot dog stand or hell maybe even the restraunt might not be fully functioning by then. But if theres an ice surface, seats, and the place is able to handle 18 thousand people without the threat of injury to any fans. Drop the puck.

The contractor will slave drive their workers 24/7 to get that building done on time. It's their money and reputation they're losing if they don't.

They essentially have 2 months to finish it, no doubt it will be finished by then, that is plenty of time..

That seems reasonable. I was just looking for alternatives to driving because I'm concerned about the parking situation in Newark.
You could try driving to one of the stations in South Jersey close to Philly, park there, and take the train into Newark. A few people I know from Philly are driving into Trenton and Hamilton to take the trains from there. Hamilton has a pretty nice station, Trenton not so much.
The contractor will slave drive their workers 24/7 to get that building done on time. It's their money and reputation they're losing if they don't.
That's right. It'll be done on time. People don't need to worry about it.

Let's not forget they need a whole lotta people to work in this place. On the prucenter.com site, the only jobs are major ones, not bartenders, ushers, etc. I remember going to Trenton's first game back in 1999 and it was kind of a mess because the ushers and concession stand workers didn't know what the hell they were doing. I think we're all gonna have to be patient for quite a while until all the bugs are worked out. I just hope all the casual fans hang in there until the place is up and running 100%.

Edit: Oops, guess they are about to fill those jobs. Anyone want to work there? Job fair Sept. 6-7th.

http://aegworldwide.teamworkonline.com/teamwork/jobs/jobskey.cfm?s=%22Prudential+Center%22#14548

Mike & the Maddog just had the guy from the NJ Expo on. They were making it sound like there was a good chance the Newark Arena would not be ready by Oct. 29. George (whatever his name was) said as former tenants he would allow the Devils to play home games at the CAA.

I have no clue of the progress. Anyone think its possible that the arena will not be ready by Oct. 29?

That's George Zoffinger, head of the the New Jersey Sports & Exposition Authority, who are the owners of Continental Arena. By the way, Continental Airlines is ending their assosciation with that building.

He's a businessman and has to try to sell the virtues of an outdated, threatened-to-be-demolished arena. This is why he spewed all sorts of false stories about the progress of the arena construction. And NYR lovers/Devil-hater hacks like Mark Everson have been eating it up all along. Given that Mike & the Mad Dog don't follow hockey, or anything that happens in New Jeresy for that matter, they tend to believe these rumors about it, which is why they asked him about it in the first place.

Let's not forget they need a whole lotta people to work in this place. On the prucenter.com site, the only jobs are major ones, not bartenders, ushers, etc. I remember going to Trenton's first game back in 1999 and it was kind of a mess because the ushers and concession stand workers didn't know what the hell they were doing. I think we're all gonna have to be patient for quite a while until all the bugs are worked out. I just hope all the casual fans hang in there until the place is up and running 100%.

Edit: Oops, guess they are about to fill those jobs. Anyone want to work there? Job fair Sept. 6-7th.

http://aegworldwide.teamworkonline.com/teamwork/jobs/jobskey.cfm?s=%22Prudential+Center%22#14548
The job fair is held at my school... I'll have to go check it out

the Charlotte Bobcats have the biggest indoor scoreboard in the country plus the construction of the arena is very similar check out their photos

http://www.nba.com/bobcats/arena_timelapse.html

http://www.nba.com/bobcats/release_scoreboard_050223.html

the Pru Center isn't far behind (30' high x 32' wide 65,000lbs) ... if it does what that board in Charlotte can do we're in for a real treat...

Pru Center has official partners further adding to the legitimacy of the Rock and the illegitimacy of the arena formerly known as 'CAA'


http://devils.nhl.com/team/app?articleid=336283&page=NewsPage&service=page

Pru Center has official partners further adding to the legitimacy of the Rock and the illegitimacy of the arena formerly known as 'CAA'


http://devils.nhl.com/team/app?articleid=336283&page=NewsPage&service=page

Sweeet!

Yeah, I know. But Mike and Chris brought it up. I wouldn't think they'd have an ax to grind.

I'm just wondering how far along the arena is.

Mike and Chris are on vacation all summer, they don't know thing one going
on in Newark. They come close to not knowing thing one all all.

Zoffinger is a POS who is just bitter because he's become the first person
in the history of mankind to be outmanuevered by the Devils front office,
business-side.

Which proves how effective our government is. I could pick two of you
at random and do a better job than the Devils business office.

Pru Center has official partners further adding to the legitimacy of the Rock and the illegitimacy of the arena formerly known as 'CAA'


http://devils.nhl.com/team/app?articleid=336283&page=NewsPage&service=page

The concourse must be pretty big if they're going to park a car or two there.

You park a car in the concourse in CAA, and no one's going anywhere.

What a dump. :shakehead

They'll probably park the car in the fire lounge, then only the "Upper class" people can see it, and us little people are left out in the cold....... yet again. :sarcasm:

the Charlotte Bobcats have the biggest indoor scoreboard in the country plus the construction of the arena is very similar check out their photos

http://www.nba.com/bobcats/arena_timelapse.html

http://www.nba.com/bobcats/release_scoreboard_050223.html

the Pru Center isn't far behind (30' high x 32' wide 65,000lbs) ... if it does what that board in Charlotte can do we're in for a real treat...

Your board is going to be better than the Bobcats' one because it won't have that skyline junk at the top. It will have the TVs, the LED boards, and the ring. It's going to be a helluva piece of machinery when it's running.

Your board is going to be better than the Bobcats' one because it won't have that skyline junk at the top. It will have the TVs, the LED boards, and the ring. It's going to be a helluva piece of machinery when it's running.

I'm expecting to see my lights flicker when they first fire that thing up.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/colelori/IMG_2470.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/colelori/IMG_2463.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/colelori/IMG_2461.jpg

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This is a pic of a sign I took a few blocks from the arena and behind city hall

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I think Newark is trying to lure more Canadians into crossing the border.

nice pics!! The place looks gigantic in that 1st pic

thanks for the pics! this place looks awesome!!

nice pics!! The place looks gigantic in that 1st pic

I think dimension wise, it is bigger than the CAA due to the expanded concourses around the arena bowl.

nice pics!! The place looks gigantic in that 1st pic


A few weeks ago I was driving down the road that the picture was taken on.. at first you cant see the arena, then you come around sort of a bend, and it looks like the $@!^!#*^( space ship from armagedon coming out of the clouds. The size and scale in a picture dont do it justice. How long till they pave the roads around it??? You figure when they move out all the cranes right??

A few weeks ago I was driving down the road that the picture was taken on.. at first you cant see the arena, then you come around sort of a bend, and it looks like the $@!^!#*^( space ship from armagedon coming out of the clouds. The size and scale in a picture dont do it justice. How long till they pave the roads around it??? You figure when they move out all the cranes right??

Probably at the end of all construction in the area, including the new office buildings, shopping areas, condos, and parking decks.

Probably at the end of all construction in the area, including the new office buildings, shopping areas, condos, and parking decks.




Um, ok.. so your going to have dirt roads going around the arena for about 2 years??

Picture of the Will call/ticket windows at the Rock!
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Some of the Speakers going up at the rock!
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Their putting black seats in the upper bowl I thought they were to be red.:help:

As an interesting note - New Jersey Transit is scheduled to fully take over the "Clocker" train from Amtrak in the next year or two. The Clocker is a New York<->Philadelphia train - so NJ Transit WILL soon be available in Philly.

The concourse must be pretty big if they're going to park a car or two there.

You park a car in the concourse in CAA, and no one's going anywhere.

What a dump. :shakehead

Yeah I honestly don't know how it's gonna work so I do hope they have a plan. It would suck to see that a vehicle was just kinda 'crammed' in there. :shakehead

At this point, I really don't know how keeping Meadowlands Arena open is cost-effective. Pru Center has enough support to stand on its own feet so the MA should either downsize or close altogether

Yeah I honestly don't know how it's gonna work so I do hope they have a plan. It would suck to see that a vehicle was just kinda 'crammed' in there. :shakehead

At this point, I really don't know how keeping Meadowlands Arena open is cost-effective. Pru Center has enough support to stand on its own feet so the MA should either downsize or close altogether

Xanadu will foot the bill till that project dies.

Their putting black seats in the upper bowl I thought they were to be red.:help:


Black upstairs Red Down stairs. I believe.

I also heard Club Seats will be made from leather and be wider with more leg room.

Black upstairs Red Down stairs. I believe.Well I like it then sounds much cooler than being from the blue seats.:D

Xanadu will foot the bill till that project dies.

Isn't that thing supposed to have theater space anyways? I really don't know why they'd want Meadowbland Arena to stay open anyways. That space would make for great parking

Their putting black seats in the upper bowl I thought they were to be red.:help:

The 200 level (which is not pictured in the renderings of the hockey layout on the Devils site but is on the basketball rendering) is black. The 100 level is red, the lower level is red except for club seats which are black.

The 200 level (which is not pictured in the renderings of the hockey layout on the Devils site but is on the basketball rendering) is black. The 100 level is red, the lower level is red except for club seats which are black.
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Yeah, this rendering appears to be the most up to date... It even has the correct model of center-hung scoreboard.

was kind of hoping all the seats would be black... something doesn't seem right about the corners of the lower bowl.

I think it looks pretty BA

I think it looks pretty BA+1 Im a season ticket holder in the black seats man!!!:yo:

+1 Im a season ticket holder in the black seats man!!!:yo:

nice, what section? I'll be in Sec 9 hopefully they have the lounges fully operational for the opener.

nice, what section? I'll be in Sec 9 hopefully they have the lounges fully operational for the opener.Im talking about the black seats up in the 200's with them rowdy folks.

what basketball team is going to play there??

what basketball team is going to play there??
Seton Hall.

At this point, I really don't know how keeping Meadowlands Arena open is cost-effective. Pru Center has enough support to stand on its own feet so the MA should either downsize or close altogether

I really don't know why they'd want Meadowbland Arena to stay open anyways. That space would make for great parking

The New Jersey Nets will continue to play there for the next 3 to 4 seasons, so it can't be closed. At least not yet, as the Nets Arena in Brooklyn hasn't even had it's groundbreaking yet:

http://www.barclayscenter.com/

I still think the Brooklyn Arena deal will fall through and Bruce "the Rat" Ratner will sell the team and join the Devils in Newark....where they belong.

The New Jersey Nets will continue to play there for the next 3 to 4 seasons, so it can't be closed. At least not yet, as the Nets Arena in Brooklyn hasn't even had it's groundbreaking yet:

http://www.barclayscenter.com/

I still think the Brooklyn Arena deal will fall through and Bruce "the Rat" Ratner will sell the team and join the Devils in Newark....where they belong.

And ruin our ice quality????

And ruin our ice quality????

What ice? It hasn't been made, tested, skated on & played on yet. ;)

Besides, the newer arenas now have better ice making facilities than in the past.

41 home Nets dates, plus playoffs, will make the PruCenter more economically viable. It would give it at laest 100 days of NHL/NBA activity per year, not including other events such as concerts, college basketball, other sports and shows, etc. This would virtually ensure that the Devils will remain in Newark and New Jersey forever.

I'm all for it.

Seton Hall.

but not all theur games right? im pretty sure you can only play a certain amount outside of your home court

but not all theur games right? im pretty sure you can only play a certain amount outside of your home court
Yeah....it is their home court. :help:

What ice? It hasn't been made, tested, skated on & played on yet. ;)

Besides, the newer arenas now have better ice making facilities than in the past.


not true... alot of players complained about the ice in Glendale/Jobing.com arena (Coyotes) and American Airlines Center (Dallas).

most ice around the NHL is sub par to just down right awful

not true... alot of players complained about the ice in Glendale/Jobing.com arena (Coyotes) and American Airlines Center (Dallas).

most ice around the NHL is sub par to just down right awful

That's what happens when you play in warm weather climates-the ice sucks, even in newer facilities... And didn't they hire the same guys that did the ice surface at Rexall Place?

not true... alot of players complained about the ice in Glendale/Jobing.com arena (Coyotes) and American Airlines Center (Dallas).

most ice around the NHL is sub par to just down right awful

The quality of the CAA was never a major issue up until the last 2 seasons. Besides, we won 3 Stanley Cups out of 4 Finals appearences sharing an arena with the Nets. There were no complaints of bad ice or injuries due to bad ice back then. You can still have decent ice, but not the best like supposedly exists in Edmonton, and have a busy arena schedule if proper maintenance & care are used.

not just warm weather climates... MSG is bad and CAA was among the worst...and HSBC in Buffalo w/newer building and cold climate http://www.ottawasun.com/Sports/Columnists/Brennan_Don/2007/05/12/4173801.html

The New Jersey Nets will continue to play there for the next 3 to 4 seasons, so it can't be closed. At least not yet, as the Nets Arena in Brooklyn hasn't even had it's groundbreaking yet:

http://www.barclayscenter.com/

I still think the Brooklyn Arena deal will fall through and Bruce "the Rat" Ratner will sell the team and join the Devils in Newark....where they belong.

Honestly, if the Nets absolutely MUST be sold I really wish it was somewhere...else, far away on the west coast or Canada. I'm sure the state could opt to shut that place down but I don't think it'd come to that.
It's funny because I just don't see myself going to any Nets games from here on out. It just doesn't seem right...

And ruin our ice quality????

Actually I think it's been the Circus that's been the major factor in messing up our ice every year. I know when we had that string if injuries late in the season from guys catching their skates wrong in the ice, Lou was up in arms about the quality after Circus left town.

don't forget the damn figure skating incident being booked the same day as the Devs - Sens playoff game... for wich they had to soften the ice... friggin icecapdes:rant:

Yeah....it is their home court. :help:

really?? wow

really?? wow

Yes, just as CAA (now MA, I guess) used to be their home court. They play a few unimportant home games in their small campus gym early in the season, then all the Big East games at The Rock. A quick -- and undoubtedly drunk -- train ride from South Orange for the Hallers.

Doesn't the state pay taxes on 'MA' still?

Mural in the Rock

http://devils.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=336456

That looks like its gonna be one sweet mural when its all done and colored. The 27th is not coming fast enough.:(

That looks like its gonna be one sweet mural when its all done and colored. The 27th is not coming fast enough.:(

Oh it'll be hot. I sure don't remember them saying they were gonna have a mural in one of the restaurants (unless I just missed it). I'm sure there are more small 'surprises' we don't know about lol

It's actually a wall in the Ice Lounge.

No, that wall is actually on the outside wall of the hallway behind the Ice bar. Fans will be able to walk around that hallway to see the mural on the main concourse coming up from one of the escalators. There are doors that lead into the Ice bar for the Club seat owners only.

Hey all, it has been a while since I last posted here and have been working on the new Newark Arena for well over a year now with no time really to do anything as things are really taking shape here at the arena. I have many pictures of the stages of construction way better than what they are showing you on their site. I hope to soon put all of my pics on many DVD's of the whole construction of the Newark Arena/Prudential Center. Things are really moving and have been working 10-12 hour days, 6 days a week for a longtime now. There were three shifts and now with things ahead of schedule we are down to two shifts for now.
Thanks to Overtime98 posting some of my pictures for you all to see as i have been taking pictures when I can from a week to week basis as of late. I have some of my pictures on my Zoints profile pictures to look at and when I have the time I will post more pictures as the arena is coming to the finish line. The Suite levels 1 & 2 are beautiful and just about done with just the carpeting to put in. Soon I will be taking some pictures of the Main concourse where the mural is between Section A & D as well as the Upper concourse and the two Suite levels. The 350 seat restaurant is really beautiful as well and will be getting pictures of that too real soon. The Upper level and Service/Ice level where I am mostly working are comng along as well. This job has been a dream come true for me and I will never forget this job and stages as the new Newark Arena/Prudential Center is looking great and so happy to be a part of the construction.:)

That is all for now and things are going well and when I have the time I will post more pictures up in the Zoints profile. Really looking forward to October 27th watching the Devils home opener!

Hells.

No, that wall is actually on the outside wall of the hallway behind the Ice bar. Fans will be able to walk around that hallway to see the mural on the main concourse coming up from one of the escalators. There are doors that lead into the Ice bar for the Club seat owners only.

Hey all, it has been a while since I last posted here and have been working on the new Newark Arena for well over a year now with no time really to do anything as things are really taking shape here at the arena. I have many pictures of the stages of construction way better than what they are showing you on their site. I hope to soon put all of my pics on many DVD's of the whole construction of the Newark Arena/Prudential Center. Things are really moving and have been working 10-12 hour days, 6 days a week for a longtime now. There were three shifts and now with things ahead of schedule we are down to two shifts for now.
Thanks to Overtime98 posting some of my pictures for you all to see as i have been taking pictures when I can from a week to week basis as of late. I have some of my pictures on my Zoints profile pictures to look at and when I have the time I will post more pictures as the arena is coming to the finish line. The Suite levels 1 & 2 are beautiful and just about done with just the carpeting to put in. Soon I will be taking some pictures of the Main concourse where the mural is between Section A & D as well as the Upper concourse and the two Suite levels. The 350 seat restaurant is really beautiful as well and will be getting pictures of that too real soon. The Upper level and Service/Ice level where I am mostly working are comng along as well. This job has been a dream come true for me and I will never forget this job and stages as the new Newark Arena/Prudential Center is looking great and so happy to be a part of the construction.:)

That is all for now and things are going well and when I have the time I will post more pictures up in the Zoints profile. Really looking forward to October 27th watching the Devils home opener!

Hells.

Thats great to hear! See if you can send your pics to Overtime98 and maybe he can post them all for you. I'd love to see them! :)

I don't know if i'll get in trouble for this or not...but i'm sorry, I need you to all read this post from one of the other forums because I just found it very interesting:

I wonder exactly who Jeff Vanderbeek thinks is his target audience?

During last season, I recall a series of "commercials" that aired on the scoreboard touting the new Prudential Center. Jeff was seen describing how the new arena will be a place "to go out for the evening . . . our fans will walk across the promenade from Penn Station for an early dinner, stay for a wonderful game and then visit with one of two lounges for after hours drinks."

There are several disconcerting presumptions in Jeff's myopic vision: presumption number 1 is that the typical Devils fan is a train-based commuter who lives or works near a rail line; presumption number 2 is that Devils fans have jobs that enable them to leave early for dinner; and presumption number 3 is that Devils fans don't have children who accompany them to the game or a baby sitter they have to get back to, and thus can "make an evening of it"

The more I thought about how Jeff described his perfect evening out at a Devils game, the more I thought back to a period in my life 20 years ago, before I was married and had four kids, when I worked in Manhattan and went to . . . Rangers games at the Garden! You took the subway to the Garden to meet some of your friends (somebody's company always had unused seats), had dinner either inside the Garden or at a restaurant nearby, and then went out for drinks afterwards. It was the typical way to spend an evening for investment bankers, equity analysts, lawyers, consultants, young marketing execs - the "Friends" meets "Sex in the City" crowd - all without family in tow - no children, no spouses. My simple conclusion is that Jeff is trying to reshape the composition of the Devils' fan base at the exclusion of the typical New Jersey suburban family, drawing on his 20 years experience as an investment banker in New York City where client dinners, entertainment and drinks (at the expense of quality time with the family) were de rigueur.

So, what's my complaint? Jeff's vision of the perfect Devil's fan is someone who doesn't exist - at least in New Jersey. The Devils have always been a team oriented towards suburban families. If he wants to pack the house, he has to recognize that few families will sign up for an evening as he described during his Prudential Center commercial. Commute by train to Penn Station from Mendham, Bedminster, Wayne, Mahwah, Red Bank, Chester, Morristown? Don't think so! An early dinner, followed by after-game drinks? It just doesn't fit any suburban family's busy schedule.

Taking the train? C'mon - In some cases, there are no trains, in other cases, the trains only run westward in the evening, and still others require ridiculous routes (through Secaucus, for example). Face it, long-time Devils fans from the aforementioned communities will be forced to drive. The only Devils fans showing up through Newark Penn Station will be Jeff's banker-buddies from Manhattan.

While the drive to the Continental Airlines Arena may have been stressful (for my family and I, it was only 30 minutes), it was still accomplished on major thorofares that criss cross the state. But who wants to drive into Newark? Only the the uninitiated are unaware that Route 21 is abysmally inadequate to handle the volume of traffic that will result on game night, regardless of how many fans might end up taking the train. Furthermore, parking near the new arena WILL be wholly inadequate - even the Devils' ticket sales representative admitted as much when we studied the arena plan together last season. And finally, while Newark's crime rate has come down (with the exception of a few sensational and senseless murders), the chance of your car getting stolen in Newark is still egregiously higher than it was at the Meadowlands. Just another reason that families will stay away.

So, imagine my surprise when I called to check the status of season tickets and a weekend plan. Apparently, season ticket sales have gone very well, and all the black seats have been sold out. "How can this be?" I thought, "Don't people see the same problems that I see?"

Well, then two days later, a friend asked me if I wanted to purchase some "great" Devils tickets in the same location that I had thought were sold out. He "knew a guy" who was selling tickets on a game-by-game basis. It seems a bunch of people purchased season tickets at the introductory, reduced rate, and were now hell-bent on reselling the seats at face value, making a handsome profit along the way.

But this can't be everyone who purchased season tickets, so why have all of the black seats sold out? I can only draw the conclusion that, this year, the attraction of being a first-year season ticket holder at the new arena overcame any modicum of sensiblity that fans may have had regarding actually getting to and leaving from a game. Those poor soles who didn't think it through - those who have to actually experience a hurricane to realize they don't want to live through it again - will experience the trauma of driving to the new Prudential Center, and won't return next year.

Alas, this leads me to my next question - What is the likelihood that the Devils' front office will re-introduce the weekend plan. This plan worked out very well for the last several years for us "suburban/commuting/family-oriented" fans. With professional jobs that would not allow us to attend games during the week (the requirment to first commute home from the Big Apple or Morristown or Jersey City to pick up the kids and then depart for the game meant that we wouldn't show up until midway through the second period), the plan provided tickets for Friday, Saturday and Sunday games, which amounted to nearly half of the 41 home games. And they were good seats! This year, it is almost September, and still no word from those marketing geniuses as to the status of the weekend plan. But then again, since I am not a single male who works or lives near a train station (or in Manhattan), maybe I'm the fan who the Jeff doesn't want. The problem is, I just don't think the fan that Jeff does want really exists in the long term . . .

And so, I am MissingThisSeason

Other teams have those things as well. You don't have to goto the game early and eat, or stay late... those are just options. You can just goto a game normally on a weekday, enjoy food service at your seat, wider legroom, and a great view... then go home on a train or in your car.

On weekends, if you have time, you can make use of all those nice things.

Other teams have those things as well. You don't have to goto the game early and eat, or stay late... those are just options. You can just goto a game normally on a weekday, enjoy food service at your seat, wider legroom, and a great view... then go home on a train or in your car.

On weekends, if you have time, you can make use of all those nice things.

I know that...and a lot of the Devils fans know that...but apparently this guy just can't grasp that!

I know that...and a lot of the Devils fans know that...but apparently this guy just can't grasp that!

He does grasp it. But he also wants to bring in a new crowd as well. The corporate/affluent NJ crowd.

Those amenities you get with club seats are there to justify the price increase per ticket. You're paying more, and now more is available to you. They fill the gap between suites and regular seats.

Jeff's whole plan was expanding our available options to net as many fans as possible. This means upscale NJers. I trust him because he was a season ticket holder.

Us regular people will still have the rest of the arena. :)

He does grasp it. But he also wants to bring in a new crowd as well. The corporate/affluent NJ crowd.

Those amenities you get with club seats are there to justify the price increase per ticket. You're paying more, and now more is available to you. They fill the gap between suites and regular seats.

Jeff's whole plan was expanding our available options to net as many fans as possible. This means upscale NJers. I trust him because he was a season ticket holder.

Us regular people will still have the rest of the arena. :)


You do know i'm talking about the guy that posted this rant and not Jeff when I say he doesn't grasp it right?

You do know i'm talking about the guy that posted this rant and not Jeff when I say he doesn't grasp it right?

LOL, my bad. Still buzzed after the RU game... sorry!

LOL, my bad. Still buzzed after the RU game... sorry!


Dont ya love that feeling after coming home from a sporting event...;). LOL

how was the rutgers game? probably was a blast!

It seems like this guy is unhappy because the Devils are moving from the Meadowlands to Newark. I guess it was easier for him to drive to CAA, but for me, as well as a lot of other people, getting to Newark will definitely be easier.

For me, The Rock will be so much easier to get to. To get to CAA, I would have to drive on Route 9, the Parkway, and the Turnpike. If there was traffic, you were screwed, since there's basically no other way to get there from central NJ. Now, I can just drive to the Matawan-Aberdeen station and hop a train to Penn Station. No worrying about traffic or gas or tolls or anything. And if it's easier for you to drive instead of taking the train, then drive. I don't know what avid Devils fan would not come to a game just because they don't feel like driving through Newark. Parking may not be the easiest thing to do near the Rock, but get there early and find a nice parking lot near the stadium. Yeah, Newark is not the most crime-free place, but to a lesser degree neither is Manhattan. Also, Camden is the worst city crimewise in NJ, but people still go there for concerts at the Tweeter Center or for Camden Riversharks games. And that leads me to my next point.

I also don't know why people say that they're not gonna come to games because it's in Newark and Newark is unsafe. It's just like people who refuse to go on airplanes because they're afraid they're gonna crash (no offense to anyone here). Yeah, you hear about the rare plane crash on the news, but do you hear about the millions of other flights that land safely every day? Same thing about Newark: you hear about the shootings and murders and whatnot on the news, but obviously you don't hear about the people who walk through the streets of Newark every day without a single thing happening to them. That's why I don't like to watch the news, it's all about the bad stuff that goes on in the world.

If those people don't want to come to games, then it means more tickets for the rest of us. Sorry, but these kind of people piss me off sometimes. I know I'll be going to more than a few games this year, especially to see the new arena.:)

It seems like this guy is unhappy because the Devils are moving from the Meadowlands to Newark. I guess it was easier for him to drive to CAA, but for me, as well as a lot of other people, getting to Newark will definitely be easier.

For me, The Rock will be so much easier to get to. To get to CAA, I would have to drive on Route 9, the Parkway, and the Turnpike. If there was traffic, you were screwed, since there's basically no other way to get there from central NJ. Now, I can just drive to the Matawan-Aberdeen station and hop a train to Penn Station. No worrying about traffic or gas or tolls or anything. And if it's easier for you to drive instead of taking the train, then drive. I don't know what avid Devils fan would not come to a game just because they don't feel like driving through Newark. Parking may not be the easiest thing to do near the Rock, but get there early and find a nice parking lot near the stadium. Yeah, Newark is not the most crime-free place, but to a lesser degree neither is Manhattan. Also, Camden is the worst city crimewise in NJ, but people still go there for concerts at the Tweeter Center or for Camden Riversharks games. And that leads me to my next point.

I also don't know why people say that they're not gonna come to games because it's in Newark and Newark is unsafe. It's just like people who refuse to go on airplanes because they're afraid they're gonna crash (no offense to anyone here). Yeah, you hear about the rare plane crash on the news, but do you hear about the millions of other flights that land safely every day? Same thing about Newark: you hear about the shootings and murders and whatnot on the news, but obviously you don't hear about the people who walk through the streets of Newark every day without a single thing happening to them. That's why I don't like to watch the news, it's all about the bad stuff that goes on in the world.

If those people don't want to come to games, then it means more tickets for the rest of us. Sorry, but these kind of people piss me off sometimes. I know I'll be going to more than a few games this year, especially to see the new arena.:)


AHHHHHHH....someone who finally seems my point!!! I wasn't going to bed until I got a post like this!!!

You my friend, have just made my night!

Thank you..and goodnight kids!

How does this guy want Vanderbeek to promote the arena?

Hey everyone, come out to our new arena, it's in the middle of nowhere so there's tons of parking ($15 a car) and no public transportation whatsoever, but who cares nobody takes the train anyway especially not the NE Corridor which is standing room only at rush hour.

We were also able to find a magical site where you don't have to deal with any traffic at all. It's in Iowa! Sure gas prices are rising exponentially but what's better preparation for an exciting NJ Devils game than an 18 hour drive!

If you want to sit in our luxurious club seats we're sorry but they're sold out. (psst I know a guy that knows a guy and he can get you tickets because he put down $6K a seat so he can make a profit)

If you want dining, there's an excellent little grill on the way called "Wendy's," try their chili you'd swear the meat had only been sitting on the grill for 9 hours.

Honestly, my biggest complaint about that post is that he draws a distinction between one of his friends' companies' having tickets to a Rangers game and one of his current friends knowing somebody that has tickets to a Devils game...I don't see any difference between the two whatsoever.

Also, god forbid Vanderbeek try to play up the possible revitalization of the area and promote a feeling of safety which is obviously an issue with some people when they hear the word "Newark."

He also talks about how Vanderbeek's trying to attract 20 something, single folk...you know the people who were kids when Marty came on the scene and followed the team through all their success and are finally reaching the age where they are getting jobs and can actually have some disposable income to spend on tickets?

No offense to any of the older fans, but this is the moment that the franchise has waited for. It's taken a long time for the Devils to carve out its place in the hearts of NJ youth (as far as hockey following youth goes) and I have a feeling that there are going to be a lot more people with memories of Stevens, Niedermayer, Lemieux, Arnott, and Sykora getting them into the Devils than people who remember Bridgman, Cirella, Muller, and Verbeek.

my eyes were glazing over pretty early into ultra-dad's rant, and then i just stopped here:

So, what's my complaint? Jeff's vision of the perfect Devil's fan is someone who doesn't exist - at least in New Jersey.

the word asinine comes to mind. frankly, if fools with this mindset decide to stay home, it'll make for a better experience for the rest of us.

I'll say this: I live in Old Bridge now and I'll be taking the train from Metropark: because I can. Sure NJ isn;t as tightly knit with transportation as NYC but we still have transportation nonetheless. I think Vanderbeek encourages people who can take the train TO take the train

Don't you guys get it? There are 2 (or 3) types of people who keep spewing the same nonsense over and over again:

1)Ranger/Flyer fans. They know that our arena would own theirs in about every aspect, so what do they do? They come up with some outdated, stupid stories about the location to scare other people from going; that way whenever their teams come to town, they'll buy all the remaining tickets so they can "outdraw" us in our own building, which would embarass the franchise. Wouldn't surprise me if they're the ones who voted 0 games in the Rock Sellouts poll.

2)Bergenites: They are the main ones who are upset about the move: They're getting their panties in a bunch since their commute got longer. Plus, as far as Jerseyans are concerned, they are the ones who are the most sheltered, bigoted, stuck-up, elitest-thinking fools who HATE and DESPISE Newark and other similar Jersey cities with a vengeance. When they see someone with a darker skin color in their neighborhood, they quickly run in their picket-fenced homes and turn one the Brinks.

3) Media. Esp. the NY media, they live off sesationalism these days(I took journalism classes in college). They love to exaggerate stories or turn a positive one into a negative. Plus, NYC knows that the Rock will be a threat to MSG(and the Brooklyn Arena), so they come up with some nonsense in order to scare people from not going.

Don't fall for it folks. Think for yourselves and support the team.

I don't know if i'll get in trouble for this or not...but i'm sorry, I need you to all read this post from one of the other forums because I just found it very interesting:

I wonder exactly who Jeff Vanderbeek thinks is his target audience?

During last season, I recall a series of "commercials" that aired on the scoreboard touting the new Prudential Center. Jeff was seen describing how the new arena will be a place "to go out for the evening . . . our fans will walk across the promenade from Penn Station for an early dinner, stay for a wonderful game and then visit with one of two lounges for after hours drinks."

There are several disconcerting presumptions in Jeff's myopic vision: presumption number 1 is that the typical Devils fan is a train-based commuter who lives or works near a rail line; presumption number 2 is that Devils fans have jobs that enable them to leave early for dinner; and presumption number 3 is that Devils fans don't have children who accompany them to the game or a baby sitter they have to get back to, and thus can "make an evening of it"

The more I thought about how Jeff described his perfect evening out at a Devils game, the more I thought back to a period in my life 20 years ago, before I was married and had four kids, when I worked in Manhattan and went to . . . Rangers games at the Garden! You took the subway to the Garden to meet some of your friends (somebody's company always had unused seats), had dinner either inside the Garden or at a restaurant nearby, and then went out for drinks afterwards. It was the typical way to spend an evening for investment bankers, equity analysts, lawyers, consultants, young marketing execs - the "Friends" meets "Sex in the City" crowd - all without family in tow - no children, no spouses. My simple conclusion is that Jeff is trying to reshape the composition of the Devils' fan base at the exclusion of the typical New Jersey suburban family, drawing on his 20 years experience as an investment banker in New York City where client dinners, entertainment and drinks (at the expense of quality time with the family) were de rigueur.

So, what's my complaint? Jeff's vision of the perfect Devil's fan is someone who doesn't exist - at least in New Jersey. The Devils have always been a team oriented towards suburban families. If he wants to pack the house, he has to recognize that few families will sign up for an evening as he described during his Prudential Center commercial. Commute by train to Penn Station from Mendham, Bedminster, Wayne, Mahwah, Red Bank, Chester, Morristown? Don't think so! An early dinner, followed by after-game drinks? It just doesn't fit any suburban family's busy schedule.

Taking the train? C'mon - In some cases, there are no trains, in other cases, the trains only run westward in the evening, and still others require ridiculous routes (through Secaucus, for example). Face it, long-time Devils fans from the aforementioned communities will be forced to drive. The only Devils fans showing up through Newark Penn Station will be Jeff's banker-buddies from Manhattan.

While the drive to the Continental Airlines Arena may have been stressful (for my family and I, it was only 30 minutes), it was still accomplished on major thorofares that criss cross the state. But who wants to drive into Newark? Only the the uninitiated are unaware that Route 21 is abysmally inadequate to handle the volume of traffic that will result on game night, regardless of how many fans might end up taking the train. Furthermore, parking near the new arena WILL be wholly inadequate - even the Devils' ticket sales representative admitted as much when we studied the arena plan together last season. And finally, while Newark's crime rate has come down (with the exception of a few sensational and senseless murders), the chance of your car getting stolen in Newark is still egregiously higher than it was at the Meadowlands. Just another reason that families will stay away.

So, imagine my surprise when I called to check the status of season tickets and a weekend plan. Apparently, season ticket sales have gone very well, and all the black seats have been sold out. "How can this be?" I thought, "Don't people see the same problems that I see?"

Well, then two days later, a friend asked me if I wanted to purchase some "great" Devils tickets in the same location that I had thought were sold out. He "knew a guy" who was selling tickets on a game-by-game basis. It seems a bunch of people purchased season tickets at the introductory, reduced rate, and were now hell-bent on reselling the seats at face value, making a handsome profit along the way.

But this can't be everyone who purchased season tickets, so why have all of the black seats sold out? I can only draw the conclusion that, this year, the attraction of being a first-year season ticket holder at the new arena overcame any modicum of sensiblity that fans may have had regarding actually getting to and leaving from a game. Those poor soles who didn't think it through - those who have to actually experience a hurricane to realize they don't want to live through it again - will experience the trauma of driving to the new Prudential Center, and won't return next year.

Alas, this leads me to my next question - What is the likelihood that the Devils' front office will re-introduce the weekend plan. This plan worked out very well for the last several years for us "suburban/commuting/family-oriented" fans. With professional jobs that would not allow us to attend games during the week (the requirment to first commute home from the Big Apple or Morristown or Jersey City to pick up the kids and then depart for the game meant that we wouldn't show up until midway through the second period), the plan provided tickets for Friday, Saturday and Sunday games, which amounted to nearly half of the 41 home games. And they were good seats! This year, it is almost September, and still no word from those marketing geniuses as to the status of the weekend plan. But then again, since I am not a single male who works or lives near a train station (or in Manhattan), maybe I'm the fan who the Jeff doesn't want. The problem is, I just don't think the fan that Jeff does want really exists in the long term . . .

And so, I am MissingThisSeason

Well a few things about this persons rant. First off the guy obviously has no clue what that video with Vanderbeek was made for (I'm assuming it's the same one on the Devils website). It was made in 2006 for people who came into the Devils offices looking to buy luxury suites. Well guess what that is the crowd that is going to get there early and stay late for drinks and stuff. It is important to realize that the suite buyer is the audience for the video. I don't think that the Devils are trying to freeze out families. The evidence is to the contrary The fact that they have made the upper deck more affordable and the increase in Sunday afternoon games shows that they want to keep the families involved.

Secondly as far as the train goes I go to a few Capitals games and I always see families with children on the Metro going to games. And that is the subway system for a city that is more ranked more dangerous than Newark. In the case for the Devils we are talking about NJtransit which I shouldn't see as a problem for families. I know as a younger child I would take it with my family if we were going into Manhattan for the day.

Finally I don't see why they wouldn't have a weekend package. Don't most sports teams have some type of package like that?

After reading all that I think that fans like that aren't true fans. If you can just stop going to your "team's" games like that, then you weren't that into them to begin with, so good riddance.

All this complaining and everything about the crime is so ridiculous to me. I frequently go to sporting events in Baltimore, Philly, and D.C., and they have high crime rates, but nothing has ever happened to me. To take it another step further, I go to concerts in not the best neighborhoods of those cities and park my car on the street and everything and I have been fine. People act like Newark is this wasteland where gangs run around and kill people.

People need to get over it, or just shut up and not go. Please stop complaining about these pointless things. If you don't want to take the train in, then drive in. If you really need to complain about all of this then you must have a pretty boring life.

All I know is I am so excited to visit the Rock this season. I can't wait until Oct. 27th and I hope to make many, many trips up from Maryland this year, and I won't complain about the crime rate or the transportation "issues" or anything because they are my team and they are getting an awesome new arena and it will be a great season.

I don't know if i'll get in trouble for this or not...but i'm sorry, I need you to all read this post from one of the other forums because I just found it very interesting:

I wonder exactly who Jeff Vanderbeek thinks is his target audience?

During last season, I recall a series of "commercials" that aired on the scoreboard touting the new Prudential Center. Jeff was seen describing how the new arena will be a place "to go out for the evening . . . our fans will walk across the promenade from Penn Station for an early dinner, stay for a wonderful game and then visit with one of two lounges for after hours drinks."

There are several disconcerting presumptions in Jeff's myopic vision: presumption number 1 is that the typical Devils fan is a train-based commuter who lives or works near a rail line; presumption number 2 is that Devils fans have jobs that enable them to leave early for dinner; and presumption number 3 is that Devils fans don't have children who accompany them to the game or a baby sitter they have to get back to, and thus can "make an evening of it"

The more I thought about how Jeff described his perfect evening out at a Devils game, the more I thought back to a period in my life 20 years ago, before I was married and had four kids, when I worked in Manhattan and went to . . . Rangers games at the Garden! You took the subway to the Garden to meet some of your friends (somebody's company always had unused seats), had dinner either inside the Garden or at a restaurant nearby, and then went out for drinks afterwards. It was the typical way to spend an evening for investment bankers, equity analysts, lawyers, consultants, young marketing execs - the "Friends" meets "Sex in the City" crowd - all without family in tow - no children, no spouses. My simple conclusion is that Jeff is trying to reshape the composition of the Devils' fan base at the exclusion of the typical New Jersey suburban family, drawing on his 20 years experience as an investment banker in New York City where client dinners, entertainment and drinks (at the expense of quality time with the family) were de rigueur.

So, what's my complaint? Jeff's vision of the perfect Devil's fan is someone who doesn't exist - at least in New Jersey. The Devils have always been a team oriented towards suburban families. If he wants to pack the house, he has to recognize that few families will sign up for an evening as he described during his Prudential Center commercial. Commute by train to Penn Station from Mendham, Bedminster, Wayne, Mahwah, Red Bank, Chester, Morristown? Don't think so! An early dinner, followed by after-game drinks? It just doesn't fit any suburban family's busy schedule.

Taking the train? C'mon - In some cases, there are no trains, in other cases, the trains only run westward in the evening, and still others require ridiculous routes (through Secaucus, for example). Face it, long-time Devils fans from the aforementioned communities will be forced to drive. The only Devils fans showing up through Newark Penn Station will be Jeff's banker-buddies from Manhattan.

While the drive to the Continental Airlines Arena may have been stressful (for my family and I, it was only 30 minutes), it was still accomplished on major thorofares that criss cross the state. But who wants to drive into Newark? Only the the uninitiated are unaware that Route 21 is abysmally inadequate to handle the volume of traffic that will result on game night, regardless of how many fans might end up taking the train. Furthermore, parking near the new arena WILL be wholly inadequate - even the Devils' ticket sales representative admitted as much when we studied the arena plan together last season. And finally, while Newark's crime rate has come down (with the exception of a few sensational and senseless murders), the chance of your car getting stolen in Newark is still egregiously higher than it was at the Meadowlands. Just another reason that families will stay away.

So, imagine my surprise when I called to check the status of season tickets and a weekend plan. Apparently, season ticket sales have gone very well, and all the black seats have been sold out. "How can this be?" I thought, "Don't people see the same problems that I see?"

Well, then two days later, a friend asked me if I wanted to purchase some "great" Devils tickets in the same location that I had thought were sold out. He "knew a guy" who was selling tickets on a game-by-game basis. It seems a bunch of people purchased season tickets at the introductory, reduced rate, and were now hell-bent on reselling the seats at face value, making a handsome profit along the way.

But this can't be everyone who purchased season tickets, so why have all of the black seats sold out? I can only draw the conclusion that, this year, the attraction of being a first-year season ticket holder at the new arena overcame any modicum of sensiblity that fans may have had regarding actually getting to and leaving from a game. Those poor soles who didn't think it through - those who have to actually experience a hurricane to realize they don't want to live through it again - will experience the trauma of driving to the new Prudential Center, and won't return next year.

Alas, this leads me to my next question - What is the likelihood that the Devils' front office will re-introduce the weekend plan. This plan worked out very well for the last several years for us "suburban/commuting/family-oriented" fans. With professional jobs that would not allow us to attend games during the week (the requirment to first commute home from the Big Apple or Morristown or Jersey City to pick up the kids and then depart for the game meant that we wouldn't show up until midway through the second period), the plan provided tickets for Friday, Saturday and Sunday games, which amounted to nearly half of the 41 home games. And they were good seats! This year, it is almost September, and still no word from those marketing geniuses as to the status of the weekend plan. But then again, since I am not a single male who works or lives near a train station (or in Manhattan), maybe I'm the fan who the Jeff doesn't want. The problem is, I just don't think the fan that Jeff does want really exists in the long term . . .

And so, I am MissingThisSeason

Whos cares what this idiot from NJ.COM forums said!

No, that wall is actually on the outside wall of the hallway behind the Ice bar. Fans will be able to walk around that hallway to see the mural on the main concourse coming up from one of the escalators. There are doors that lead into the Ice bar for the Club seat owners only.

Hey all, it has been a while since I last posted here and have been working on the new Newark Arena for well over a year now with no time really to do anything as things are really taking shape here at the arena. I have many pictures of the stages of construction way better than what they are showing you on their site. I hope to soon put all of my pics on many DVD's of the whole construction of the Newark Arena/Prudential Center. Things are really moving and have been working 10-12 hour days, 6 days a week for a longtime now. There were three shifts and now with things ahead of schedule we are down to two shifts for now.
Thanks to Overtime98 posting some of my pictures for you all to see as i have been taking pictures when I can from a week to week basis as of late. I have some of my pictures on my Zoints profile pictures to look at and when I have the time I will post more pictures as the arena is coming to the finish line. The Suite levels 1 & 2 are beautiful and just about done with just the carpeting to put in. Soon I will be taking some pictures of the Main concourse where the mural is between Section A & D as well as the Upper concourse and the two Suite levels. The 350 seat restaurant is really beautiful as well and will be getting pictures of that too real soon. The Upper level and Service/Ice level where I am mostly working are comng along as well. This job has been a dream come true for me and I will never forget this job and stages as the new Newark Arena/Prudential Center is looking great and so happy to be a part of the construction.:)

That is all for now and things are going well and when I have the time I will post more pictures up in the Zoints profile. Really looking forward to October 27th watching the Devils home opener!

Hells.

Thanks for the updates on the arena all summer. The many pictures you send out on the arena construction process are very interesting and cool to see the new arena be built..... The arena will be done on time and will be the best in the NHL.

2)Bergenites: They are the main ones who are upset about the move: They're getting their panties in a bunch since their commute got longer.

I agree.

Honestly, from reading message boards over the past few years it seems like the majority of Devils fans are in Central NJ (or north central, if you will) and along the shore and such - places where there is an NJT line nearby. I think the Prudential Center will see a much larger crowd simply because access to it from areas where there are more NJD fans is better.

I'm not saying every fan is in those areas, but off the top of my head I'd say (again, based on a cross section from several online Devils fan communities) that the CAA was convenient to about 25% of fans, while Newark and it's train line will be more convenient to 75% of fans.

It seems like this guy is unhappy because the Devils are moving from the Meadowlands to Newark. I guess it was easier for him to drive to CAA, but for me, as well as a lot of other people, getting to Newark will definitely be easier.

For me, The Rock will be so much easier to get to. To get to CAA, I would have to drive on Route 9, the Parkway, and the Turnpike. If there was traffic, you were screwed, since there's basically no other way to get there from central NJ. Now, I can just drive to the Matawan-Aberdeen station and hop a train to Penn Station. No worrying about traffic or gas or tolls or anything. And if it's easier for you to drive instead of taking the train, then drive. I don't know what avid Devils fan would not come to a game just because they don't feel like driving through Newark. Parking may not be the easiest thing to do near the Rock, but get there early and find a nice parking lot near the stadium. Yeah, Newark is not the most crime-free place, but to a lesser degree neither is Manhattan. Also, Camden is the worst city crimewise in NJ, but people still go there for concerts at the Tweeter Center or for Camden Riversharks games. And that leads me to my next point.

I also don't know why people say that they're not gonna come to games because it's in Newark and Newark is unsafe. It's just like people who refuse to go on airplanes because they're afraid they're gonna crash (no offense to anyone here). Yeah, you hear about the rare plane crash on the news, but do you hear about the millions of other flights that land safely every day? Same thing about Newark: you hear about the shootings and murders and whatnot on the news, but obviously you don't hear about the people who walk through the streets of Newark every day without a single thing happening to them. That's why I don't like to watch the news, it's all about the bad stuff that goes on in the world.

If those people don't want to come to games, then it means more tickets for the rest of us. Sorry, but these kind of people piss me off sometimes. I know I'll be going to more than a few games this year, especially to see the new arena.:)
i totally agree with you. i myself will be taking the aberdeen-matawan train to newark, or the new brunswick train now because im going to college. there wont be any more traffic or worrying how much the gas will cost.

New pictures are up for the assembled scoreboard and the laid piping for the practice rink.

http://devils.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=336499

New pictures are up for the assembled scoreboard and the laid piping for the practice rink.

http://devils.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=336499

We'll never have problems seeing replays again!!! :handclap:

We'll never have problems seeing replays again!!! :handclap:

sweet... i wonder what the stuck pixel policy is on those :) seriously though - very psyched about the progress that's being made on the arena.

I don't know if i'll get in trouble for this or not...but i'm sorry, I need you to all read this post from one of the other forums because I just found it very interesting:

I wonder exactly who Jeff Vanderbeek thinks is his target audience?

During last season, I recall a series of "commercials" that aired on the scoreboard touting the new Prudential Center. Jeff was seen describing how the new arena will be a place "to go out for the evening . . . our fans will walk across the promenade from Penn Station for an early dinner, stay for a wonderful game and then visit with one of two lounges for after hours drinks."

There are several disconcerting presumptions in Jeff's myopic vision: presumption number 1 is that the typical Devils fan is a train-based commuter who lives or works near a rail line; presumption number 2 is that Devils fans have jobs that enable them to leave early for dinner; and presumption number 3 is that Devils fans don't have children who accompany them to the game or a baby sitter they have to get back to, and thus can "make an evening of it"

The more I thought about how Jeff described his perfect evening out at a Devils game, the more I thought back to a period in my life 20 years ago, before I was married and had four kids, when I worked in Manhattan and went to . . . Rangers games at the Garden! You took the subway to the Garden to meet some of your friends (somebody's company always had unused seats), had dinner either inside the Garden or at a restaurant nearby, and then went out for drinks afterwards. It was the typical way to spend an evening for investment bankers, equity analysts, lawyers, consultants, young marketing execs - the "Friends" meets "Sex in the City" crowd - all without family in tow - no children, no spouses. My simple conclusion is that Jeff is trying to reshape the composition of the Devils' fan base at the exclusion of the typical New Jersey suburban family, drawing on his 20 years experience as an investment banker in New York City where client dinners, entertainment and drinks (at the expense of quality time with the family) were de rigueur.

So, what's my complaint? Jeff's vision of the perfect Devil's fan is someone who doesn't exist - at least in New Jersey. The Devils have always been a team oriented towards suburban families. If he wants to pack the house, he has to recognize that few families will sign up for an evening as he described during his Prudential Center commercial. Commute by train to Penn Station from Mendham, Bedminster, Wayne, Mahwah, Red Bank, Chester, Morristown? Don't think so! An early dinner, followed by after-game drinks? It just doesn't fit any suburban family's busy schedule.

Taking the train? C'mon - In some cases, there are no trains, in other cases, the trains only run westward in the evening, and still others require ridiculous routes (through Secaucus, for example). Face it, long-time Devils fans from the aforementioned communities will be forced to drive. The only Devils fans showing up through Newark Penn Station will be Jeff's banker-buddies from Manhattan.

While the drive to the Continental Airlines Arena may have been stressful (for my family and I, it was only 30 minutes), it was still accomplished on major thorofares that criss cross the state. But who wants to drive into Newark? Only the the uninitiated are unaware that Route 21 is abysmally inadequate to handle the volume of traffic that will result on game night, regardless of how many fans might end up taking the train. Furthermore, parking near the new arena WILL be wholly inadequate - even the Devils' ticket sales representative admitted as much when we studied the arena plan together last season. And finally, while Newark's crime rate has come down (with the exception of a few sensational and senseless murders), the chance of your car getting stolen in Newark is still egregiously higher than it was at the Meadowlands. Just another reason that families will stay away.

So, imagine my surprise when I called to check the status of season tickets and a weekend plan. Apparently, season ticket sales have gone very well, and all the black seats have been sold out. "How can this be?" I thought, "Don't people see the same problems that I see?"

Well, then two days later, a friend asked me if I wanted to purchase some "great" Devils tickets in the same location that I had thought were sold out. He "knew a guy" who was selling tickets on a game-by-game basis. It seems a bunch of people purchased season tickets at the introductory, reduced rate, and were now hell-bent on reselling the seats at face value, making a handsome profit along the way.

But this can't be everyone who purchased season tickets, so why have all of the black seats sold out? I can only draw the conclusion that, this year, the attraction of being a first-year season ticket holder at the new arena overcame any modicum of sensiblity that fans may have had regarding actually getting to and leaving from a game. Those poor soles who didn't think it through - those who have to actually experience a hurricane to realize they don't want to live through it again - will experience the trauma of driving to the new Prudential Center, and won't return next year.

Alas, this leads me to my next question - What is the likelihood that the Devils' front office will re-introduce the weekend plan. This plan worked out very well for the last several years for us "suburban/commuting/family-oriented" fans. With professional jobs that would not allow us to attend games during the week (the requirment to first commute home from the Big Apple or Morristown or Jersey City to pick up the kids and then depart for the game meant that we wouldn't show up until midway through the second period), the plan provided tickets for Friday, Saturday and Sunday games, which amounted to nearly half of the 41 home games. And they were good seats! This year, it is almost September, and still no word from those marketing geniuses as to the status of the weekend plan. But then again, since I am not a single male who works or lives near a train station (or in Manhattan), maybe I'm the fan who the Jeff doesn't want. The problem is, I just don't think the fan that Jeff does want really exists in the long term . . .

And so, I am MissingThisSeason

George Zoffinger just doesn't get it does he?

For anyone that is looking for partial plan info, it's been released.

There is a 20 game plan, and a 21 game plan. If you previously had partial and you didn't upgrade it to full, you should be able to see it if you log into your account.

I don't think it says what games are available though yet. And information went out today on them and more will go out in about a week!!!

20 and 21 game plans??? ***! I cant afford that many games! :madfire:

There are other plans with less games right? Like 6 games, 8 games, etc??

I'm not sure....

Those usually don't come out until Christmas time though.

I'm not sure....

Those usually don't come out until Christmas time though.

Welp, I'm screwed... :help:

20 and 21 game plans??? ***! I cant afford that many games! :madfire:

There are other plans with less games right? Like 6 games, 8 games, etc??
Yeah, that's more than I wanted too. I was hoping for about 12 games.

How does this guy want Vanderbeek to promote the arena?



Honestly, my biggest complaint about that post is that he draws a distinction between one of his friends' companies' having tickets to a Rangers game and one of his current friends knowing somebody that has tickets to a Devils game...I don't see any difference between the two whatsoever.

Also, god forbid Vanderbeek try to play up the possible revitalization of the area and promote a feeling of safety which is obviously an issue with some people when they hear the word "Newark."

He also talks about how Vanderbeek's trying to attract 20 something, single folk...you know the people who were kids when Marty came on the scene and followed the team through all their success and are finally reaching the age where they are getting jobs and can actually have some disposable income to spend on tickets?

No offense to any of the older fans, but this is the moment that the franchise has waited for. It's taken a long time for the Devils to carve out its place in the hearts of NJ youth (as far as hockey following youth goes) and I have a feeling that there are going to be a lot more people with memories of Stevens, Niedermayer, Lemieux, Arnott, and Sykora getting them into the Devils than people who remember Bridgman, Cirella, Muller, and Verbeek.


That, and 21 isn't the only way to the building. Well, maybe if you're a moron.

Actually, bringing up 21 gives away the actual location of the poster.
Northwest Bergen County. There's a shock.

What people that "anti-Newark" fail to realize, that *anything* was better than the
situation the team found themselves in last season. And RELOCATION definately
fit the bill of "*anything*".

BTW, prices were and still are real familly-friendly, aren't they? It was real family friendly to shell out $400 for a family of 4 to go to CAA? I must have missed all that traffic around CAA (well, I did, because I live due north of it), but I know people that came from the south with horror stories about how long it took them to get there.

Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb. That describes any Devils fan that tries
to sabotage Newark. I don't get it at all, and the dumbest thing about it is that
these people are actually Devils fans, they're not trolls.

You hit the nail on the head, BTW. This team moved into an established market.
I'm 29. I should be one of the OLDER original true Devils fans. Not a convert.
Converts are converts for a reason. He should market to his true fans. One of the things that has driven me nuts is that they never realized that their original crop of fans was coming of age, into being customers. Some of that seems to be remedied
now. Some.

Yeah, that's more than I wanted too. I was hoping for about 12 games.

I would think you'll see those packages for the January and February games.

There's so many of them, alot of them in a row (two 3 in 4 nights), that they're
going to have a hard time generating walk-up. That's precisely when they'll spring
the smaller packages.

Of course, unless ticket sales are better than expected. I don't suspect they're
going to need too much help selling tickets through the New Year.

Don't you guys get it? There are 2 (or 3) types of people who keep spewing the same nonsense over and over again:

1)Ranger/Flyer fans. They know that our arena would own theirs in about every aspect, so what do they do? They come up with some outdated, stupid stories about the location to scare other people from going; that way whenever their teams come to town, they'll buy all the remaining tickets so they can "outdraw" us in our own building, which would embarass the franchise. Wouldn't surprise me if they're the ones who voted 0 games in the Rock Sellouts poll.

2)Bergenites: They are the main ones who are upset about the move: They're getting their panties in a bunch since their commute got longer. Plus, as far as Jerseyans are concerned, they are the ones who are the most sheltered, bigoted, stuck-up, elitest-thinking fools who HATE and DESPISE Newark and other similar Jersey cities with a vengeance. When they see someone with a darker skin color in their neighborhood, they quickly run in their picket-fenced homes and turn one the Brinks.

3) Media. Esp. the NY media, they live off sesationalism these days(I took journalism classes in college). They love to exaggerate stories or turn a positive one into a negative. Plus, NYC knows that the Rock will be a threat to MSG(and the Brooklyn Arena), so they come up with some nonsense in order to scare people from not going.

Don't fall for it folks. Think for yourselves and support the team.


It's not Rangers fans and it's not the NY media. NY media doesn't give two.

99% of this is legit Devils fans. They're dumbasses. Honestly, Rangers fans
are more excited about this than that portion of Devils fans are. Except the yuppie
Bergen Ranger fans, but they kinda get into an alliance with the same Devils fans.

There's plenty of reasons from these morons.... location, black people, no drinking
in the parking lot anymore, "they're moving", pricing (which makes no sense, these
people sit in the cheap seats or go on someone elses' dime), "they're ignoring their
true fan, they sold out"... etc.

I've been talking to people for a couple of years about this. Trust me, these people
are Devils fans. Really dumb ones.

The only angle you have right is the Bergen/NJSEA one.

I really don't care what people say about the arena... I've got my season tickets already and I will enjoy a brand new "State of the Art" facility with hardcore fans who feel the same way I do... if your afraid to go to Newark stay home and sit on the couch where its safe...

I would think you'll see those packages for the January and February games.

There's so many of them, alot of them in a row (two 3 in 4 nights), that they're
going to have a hard time generating walk-up. That's precisely when they'll spring
the smaller packages.

Of course, unless ticket sales are better than expected. I don't suspect they're
going to need too much help selling tickets through the New Year.

Even the Rags have 8~12 game plans... ;)

After reading all that I think that fans like that aren't true fans.

Well, one line gave away where his true allegiance lies:

the more I thought back to a period in my life 20 years ago, before I was married and had four kids, when I worked in Manhattan and went to . . . Rangers games at the Garden!

Even the Rags have 8~12 game plans... ;)

According to their website they're not available. And a Ranger fan(non-troll) came on the nj.com forums saying that they're no longer selling those type of plans due to Full season ticket demand this year. And if they were so what? Who cares about what they're doing?

Now with that being said, do you think NJD should try student promotions this year(i.e. Penguins/Flyers)? I mean the arena isalmost within walking distance to a few colleges, not to mention a whole bunch within the region.

there is an easy way to buy a 6 or 8 pack plan.
one way to to buy them off of a season ticket holder (PM me if you would like 6 games, and I will let you know which ones are available and what section I am in).
Another way is to buy the games on ticketmaster the day they go on sale. everyone else will try to get the home opener, the other games should be open.

Now with that being said, do you think NJD should try student promotions this year(i.e. Penguins/Flyers)? I mean the arena isalmost within walking distance to a few colleges, not to mention a whole bunch within the region.

They will be doing that. Vanderbeek has already said they will be.

Now with that being said, do you think NJD should try student promotions this year(i.e. Penguins/Flyers)? I mean the arena isalmost within walking distance to a few colleges, not to mention a whole bunch within the region.

I hope so, being a PATH ride away :)

Hey all I have some more pictures from this week of the Newark Arena/Prudential Center up on my Zoints profile. They are pictures of the Main Level concourse escalators going up to the Suite Levels 1 &2 as well as many concession stands, mens bathrooms, the Rock Logos being installed in front of the arena and the huge mural that is being drawn behind the Ice bar in the Main Level hallway.

Things are really coming along nicely down here at the Newark Arena/Prudential Center. It is now "crunchtime" on the job and it will be a fast pace all the way up to the middle of October. I do not know if I will have time after this weekend to post more pictures up on my Zoints profile, so I am sure Overtime 98 will post some more of my pictures here for all of you.;) I will try to keep everyone updated the best I can. The Devils website will have some new pictures up as well real soon.

Hope everyone is enjoying their Labor Day weekend.:) For me it is a two day weekend and back to work at the arena on Tuesday 10-12 hour days thru to October.

Later all and enjoy the pictures!:D

Hells

Nice pics Hells. It looks like everythings coming together. I like the different tiles on the walls in the bathrooms, it makes it look nicer.

BTW, nice Devils tattoo.:handclap:

Now THAT is what I'd call a bathroom.

So is the marquee done yet? Or are they going to fill in the gaps between the LED bars?

Hey all I have some more pictures from this week of the Newark Arena/Prudential Center up on my Zoints profile. They are pictures of the Main Level concourse escalators going up to the Suite Levels 1 &2 as well as many concession stands, mens bathrooms, the Rock Logos being installed in front of the arena and the huge mural that is being drawn behind the Ice bar in the Main Level hallway.

Things are really coming along nicely down here at the Newark Arena/Prudential Center. It is now "crunchtime" on the job and it will be a fast pace all the way up to the middle of October. I do not know if I will have time after this weekend to post more pictures up on my Zoints profile, so I am sure Overtime 98 will post some more of my pictures here for all of you.;) I will try to keep everyone updated the best I can. The Devils website will have some new pictures up as well real soon.

Hope everyone is enjoying their Labor Day weekend.:) For me it is a two day weekend and back to work at the arena on Tuesday 10-12 hour days thru to October.

Later all and enjoy the pictures!:D

Hells

Nice pictures on the construction process.... It is cool you take the time out of your busy day to take these and post them for all to see. It is really cool to see the arena construction process take place. This will be a state of the art facility. Thanks for the updates.

I can not wait for the games at the arena and Oct. 25th when bon jovi opens the arena ;)....

LETS GO DEVILS!

Hey all I have some more pictures from this week of the Newark Arena/Prudential Center up on my Zoints profile. They are pictures of the Main Level concourse escalators going up to the Suite Levels 1 &2 as well as many concession stands, mens bathrooms, the Rock Logos being installed in front of the arena and the huge mural that is being drawn behind the Ice bar in the Main Level hallway.

Things are really coming along nicely down here at the Newark Arena/Prudential Center. It is now "crunchtime" on the job and it will be a fast pace all the way up to the middle of October. I do not know if I will have time after this weekend to post more pictures up on my Zoints profile, so I am sure Overtime 98 will post some more of my pictures here for all of you.;) I will try to keep everyone updated the best I can. The Devils website will have some new pictures up as well real soon.

Hope everyone is enjoying their Labor Day weekend.:) For me it is a two day weekend and back to work at the arena on Tuesday 10-12 hour days thru to October.

Later all and enjoy the pictures!:D

Hells

Hey Hells, thanks for the pictures, and if you're still around and have a second, just a few quick questions....

Is there an official "completion" date set for the arena? You say mid-October, but is there an official date set that can't be extended?

Will there be anything inside the arena that will not be ready by October 25th that will be worked on after the place opens, such as the Devils museum or team store, other restaurants for the general public, etc?

Any word on the season ticket holder parking garage, or parking in general?

I can't contain my excitement for this place. I upgraded from a partial plan of 14 years to 4 full season tickets. I'll be in 232 for the season.

How much do single game tickets cost ?

How much do single game tickets cost ?As low as 10$ bucks.;)

As low as 10$ bucks.;)

How much for the good seats?

How much for the good seats?I think they should all be good seats. The most expensive club seats 200$ I think our sold out.
90$ should get you in the lower bowl. Just go to the Devs site.

Hey Hells, thanks for the pictures, and if you're still around and have a second, just a few quick questions....

Is there an official "completion" date set for the arena? You say mid-October, but is there an official date set that can't be extended?

Will there be anything inside the arena that will not be ready by October 25th that will be worked on after the place opens, such as the Devils museum or team store, other restaurants for the general public, etc?

Any word on the season ticket holder parking garage, or parking in general?

I can't contain my excitement for this place. I upgraded from a partial plan of 14 years to 4 full season tickets. I'll be in 232 for the season.

The official completion of the whole area project including office buildings, parking decks, walkway over to Penn Station and the Newark/Prudential Arena will be around 2010-2011 completed. The Newark Arena itself will be mostly completed and fans will see construction going on as we attend this seasons and couple seasons after. The Devils practice rink section E will not be done by October. This is why the Devils have another year lease @ SMA this season. The deadline for the Newark/Prudential Center bowl, concession stands, bathrooms and for the most part the main focus of the arena bowl itself. You will see construction still going on in and around the arena but for the most part the arena bowl will be completed.
The 500 space parking deck on the Broad Street side that is going up right now are for the players, players famlies, Devils staff main office employees and possibly the club season ticket owners. There will be plenty of parking right now for the Devils games starting in late October. I park in the parking lot everyday right infront of the front of the arena and that will be still open for the season ticket holders with the parking passes. Across the street there is an existing huge parking deck and two huge lots for the Gateway parking. Those lots and parking deck will be open for the Devils games. as of right now I do not know the specifics of how or what they will be doing but as soon as I find out I will let everyone know here.;)

Glad to hear you will be in Section 232 right next to me. If you see some of my pics you will see some pictures of your section.:) As for the Devils team store that will be ready in the near future as well and not sure if it will be ready in late October. Again, I will try to keep everyone informed here when I can. Starting tomorrow it is going to be very hectic on the job getting a lot of things done. It is crunchtime down here at the arena.

Talk to you soon and thanks for the questions. Keep a look out on the up coming pics as I will try to get some pics of the suite levels 1 & 2 as they are all done and the upper level concourse like I did the main level concourse. I take the time to take these pictures on my own time during lunch and morning break. Sometimes I can sneek a shot or two going to grab materials.:p: Just do not want to get caught as some has been fired off the job, but I am in good here with my foreman.:D

That is all for now.

Later.

Hells

Hells, is work being done on Saturdays, and why was so little work done on the arena until the last month or two? It would have been nice to have virtually all the arena work completely done by the opening game.

Hells, is work being done on Saturdays, and why was so little work done on the arena until the last month or two? It would have been nice to have virtually all the arena work completely done by the opening game.

Given the time frame I think they did alright. I mean, back in March people said the roof was talking too long but given the magnitude of the construction it's pretty good looking

Don't you guys get it? There are 2 (or 3) types of people who keep spewing the same nonsense over and over again:

1)Ranger/Flyer fans. They know that our arena would own theirs in about every aspect, so what do they do? They come up with some outdated, stupid stories about the location to scare other people from going; that way whenever their teams come to town, they'll buy all the remaining tickets so they can "outdraw" us in our own building, which would embarass the franchise. Wouldn't surprise me if they're the ones who voted 0 games in the Rock Sellouts poll.

2)Bergenites: They are the main ones who are upset about the move: They're getting their panties in a bunch since their commute got longer. Plus, as far as Jerseyans are concerned, they are the ones who are the most sheltered, bigoted, stuck-up, elitest-thinking fools who HATE and DESPISE Newark and other similar Jersey cities with a vengeance. When they see someone with a darker skin color in their neighborhood, they quickly run in their picket-fenced homes and turn one the Brinks.

3) Media. Esp. the NY media, they live off sesationalism these days(I took journalism classes in college). They love to exaggerate stories or turn a positive one into a negative. Plus, NYC knows that the Rock will be a threat to MSG(and the Brooklyn Arena), so they come up with some nonsense in order to scare people from not going.

Don't fall for it folks. Think for yourselves and support the team.

I am a Bergenite, and I do have a white picket fence in front of my home. However, all the other characteristics that you mention about me are indeed incorrect, and i am extremely excited about the new arena. I think these characteristics should probably state, "for the most part".

Great pics by Hells. It looks awesome. Can't wait for opening night!!!!

Hells, is work being done on Saturdays, and why was so little work done on the arena until the last month or two? It would have been nice to have virtually all the arena work completely done by the opening game.

I think most of the external work is Newark's responsibilty, such as the pedestrian bridge, Triangle Park, road renovations, etc. They just agreed upon the financing for all this work just a few weeks ago so don't expect this to get done any time soon.

I must say, it looks like they have TONS of work to get done inside the place yet, but like a previous post said, it didn't even have a complete roof in May. They know this has to finished by October 25th so I'm sure they have exact times and figures for everything to get done. My only concern is that because they're working these guys nonstop, I hope a lot of stuff doesn't get half-assed. I know I wouldn't be too efficient at 4am during my 12th hour of work.

Hells, is work being done on Saturdays, and why was so little work done on the arena until the last month or two? It would have been nice to have virtually all the arena work completely done by the opening game.

I don't work on the site, but IIRC, before he signed off on it "and became
Newark's #1 Devils fan :shakehead ", Cory Booker screwed around with the
project a good deal in his "let's reopen this even though we can't stop it
unless we plan to have a scrap steel sale" stage. Obviously, there are aspects
of the project that are meant to be finished down the road, but considering the rumors he interfered with permits and such, they're lucky the building will be done
enough to open "on time."

And of course, Booker will be front and center for the dog and pony show on opening night, and since part of his gimmick is living in a Newark project, he'll probably be around alot. Look for him in a VIP Suite or Luxury Box Lounge near you! Mind boggling.

I don't work on the site, but If I recall correctly, before he signed off on it "and became
Newark's #1 Devils fan :shakehead ", Cory Booker screwed around with the
project a good deal in his "let's reopen this even though we can't stop it
unless we plan to have a scrap steel sale" stage. Obviously, there are aspects
of the project that are meant to be finished down the road, but considering the rumors he interfered with permits and such, they're lucky the building will be done
enough to open "on time."

And of course, Booker will be front and center for the dog and pony show on opening night, and since part of his gimmick is living in a Newark project, he'll probably be around alot. Look for him in a VIP Suite or Luxury Box Lounge near you! Mind boggling.

Not for nothin', and not a knock to Cory Booker, but I think he knew it would've been suicide trying close an already started arena. I think he only chose his position just in case it failed (which oh so many people wanted it to...and still do). It would allow him to say (in the event the Rock failed) that: "I never supported this thing from the start!" But supposedly he worked something out with the Devs and became, as you stated, Newark's #1 Dev's fan lol.

You know I always wonder why these egomaniac politicians always feel the need to march out for major sporting events. They are almost always met with thundering boos. I can't see Booker being greeted with a standing ovation. I'm sure many of us here remember Whitman and McGreevy at our Cup Celebrations. They sure didn't go over well. Booker was already on the ice at the Meadowlands for some presentation during the intermission of a Devils/Rangers game last season.

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New Pics Sept. 4th!

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New Pics Sept. 4th!

Let's hope a lot of work is getting done right now-it's a short week.

Let's hope a lot of work is getting done right now-it's a short week.


less than 2 months is not alot of time.... Im sure they are stepping up production.. we're going to see alot of progress in the coming month of september....

The official completion of the whole area project including office buildings, parking decks, walkway over to Penn Station and the Newark/Prudential Arena will be around 2010-2011 completed. The Newark Arena itself will be mostly completed and fans will see construction going on as we attend this seasons and couple seasons after. The Devils practice rink section E will not be done by October. This is why the Devils have another year lease @ SMA this season. The deadline for the Newark/Prudential Center bowl, concession stands, bathrooms and for the most part the main focus of the arena bowl itself. You will see construction still going on in and around the arena but for the most part the arena bowl will be completed.
The 500 space parking deck on the Broad Street side that is going up right now are for the players, players famlies, Devils staff main office employees and possibly the club season ticket owners. There will be plenty of parking right now for the Devils games starting in late October. I park in the parking lot everyday right infront of the front of the arena and that will be still open for the season ticket holders with the parking passes. Across the street there is an existing huge parking deck and two huge lots for the Gateway parking. Those lots and parking deck will be open for the Devils games. as of right now I do not know the specifics of how or what they will be doing but as soon as I find out I will let everyone know here.;)

Glad to hear you will be in Section 232 right next to me. If you see some of my pics you will see some pictures of your section.:) As for the Devils team store that will be ready in the near future as well and not sure if it will be ready in late October. Again, I will try to keep everyone informed here when I can. Starting tomorrow it is going to be very hectic on the job getting a lot of things done. It is crunchtime down here at the arena.

Talk to you soon and thanks for the questions. Keep a look out on the up coming pics as I will try to get some pics of the suite levels 1 & 2 as they are all done and the upper level concourse like I did the main level concourse. I take the time to take these pictures on my own time during lunch and morning break. Sometimes I can sneek a shot or two going to grab materials.:p: Just do not want to get caught as some has been fired off the job, but I am in good here with my foreman.:D

That is all for now.

Later.

Hells

Hells - just wanted to say thanks for the pics and for the insider's perspective and info., it's very much appreciated.

I don't know much about construction, but I'm guessing all of the hardest and most integral parts of the arena are done. The exterior and main interior architecture of the arena is definitely the most time consuming, and that is basically all done. Stairs don't take that much time to do, putting seats in is not time consuming either, and the practice rink does not necessarily have to be ready. Basically all that needs to be done are the little details.

I don't know much about construction, but I'm guessing all of the hardest and most integral parts of the arena are done. The exterior and main interior architecture of the arena is definitely the most time consuming, and that is basically all done. Stairs don't take that much time to do, putting seats in is not time consuming either, and the practice rink does not necessarily have to be ready. Basically all that needs to be done are the little details.

you are correct. Although sometimes the detail and small work can take time, with enough guys they can put it together in no time.... I am looking foward to the home opener and Oct. 25th when the arena opens!

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Canucks fans talking about the new arena!


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Check what this guy says about the Devils move to Newark!

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Canucks fans talking about the new arena!


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Check what this guy says about the Devils move to Newark!

I hope there are plenty of sell-outs just to shut up the people dissing our fanbase.

http://forum.canucks.com/index.php?showtopic=172907&st=0&start=0

Canucks fans talking about the new arena!


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Check what this guy says about the Devils move to Newark!

At least we can keep the same Jersey design for more than 4 seasons. Again, attendance is not going to be an issue with the new arena, especially if you look at the rise in season ticket holders.

At least we can keep the same Jersey design for more than 4 seasons. Again, attendance is not going to be an issue with the new arena, especially if you look at the rise in season ticket holders.And 3 Stanley Cup banners up in the raffters.Hockey fans out there our well aware of our lack of attendance but, don't know why.

http://forum.canucks.com/index.php?showtopic=172907&st=0&start=0

Canucks fans talking about the new arena!


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Check what this guy says about the Devils move to Newark!

Well at least some of them aren't against us. screw the others
As far as Newark being the crime capital of the US, yeah sure, if you don't count the other 21 cities that are rated much worse than it: including but not limited to St. Louis Detroit etc. I'm positive the Cardinals don't have a hard time selling tix

we really can't defend ourselves on the attendance issue... after all they are right.

but maybe we can shut everyone up after this year... Devs fans support your team and attend the games when you can.

and Baltimore was ranked worse than Newark. I went to an O's game over the summer, the city is fantastic around the stadium... lots to do and walked it the entire time.

Some fans are so arrogant when they talk about us...maybe they're just mad about their new jerseys

Hells - just wanted to say thanks for the pics and for the insider's perspective and info., it's very much appreciated.


You welcome and it is a dream job for me to be down here working and sharing my electrical work and pictures with my fellow Devils fans.:D Some of these pictures you see is the lighting I have done in some of the rooms you see in these pictures. There is a lot of work to be done and some of the finish work and millwork does take sometime. Today we got a lot accomplished down at the arena and they are laying out the seats around the arena like crazy! Things are coming together and took some more pics of the huge mural and other things like the completion of the ticket/will call booths areas. These pics will be up later or the end of this week with hopefully more pictures if I can get to them. Just very busy this week and wanted to stop in here to reply to some that appreciate the pics even though I do not see any replies which is OK, but do see some 5-stars on some of my pictures which is pretty cool.:yo:

This job is one that I will always cherrish and remember in my career and when it is all said and done I can and will reflect on the arena and know what I done on this job to make this arena look like the best arena in the NHL.

Good night everyone as I have to get up at 4am to be at the arena by 5:30am for another long day. Things are getting done rather quickly and it is really showing around the arena.

Hells.

Did anyone else notice they added more pictures than just the stairwell yesterday?

For those with club seats worrying about the parking deck, there's your proof!

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cj: I posted the new pics yesterday morning!

and yes the parking garages will go up real fast it only takes a couple of weeks to put them up. Next garage will be the one for regular ticket holders with the parking pass! that one is going up right next to the arena!

Yes but when you posted it, it was only the pictures of the stairs!

http://forum.canucks.com/index.php?showtopic=172907&st=0&start=0

Canucks fans talking about the new arena!


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Check what this guy says about the Devils move to Newark!





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I would fit in as one of the jobless college types, but scared of minorities? Absolutely not. Newark isn't that bad, I don't see why everyone's so bent over it. Especially anyone who takes a train, the stadium's two blocks away! You're only in Newark for that long if you're so scared. Personally I plan on playing around in Newark after the games, especially since I won't be driving.

The loss of tailgating does indeed suck. This is the only team I truly get excited for in sports. I like the Giants and the Yankees, but when they lose, I just shrug it off, not so much with the Devils. We are a sick fan base, and anyone who has partied in the parking lot of CAA can attest. But, in any case, I'd still take the new arena, despite the cheaper food and spirits that came with tailgating. Just looks like I'm tailgating on the PATH train.

I would fit in as one of the jobless college types, but scared of minorities? Absolutely not. Newark isn't that bad, I don't see why everyone's so bent over it. Especially anyone who takes a train, the stadium's two blocks away! You're only in Newark for that long if you're so scared. Personally I plan on playing around in Newark after the games, especially since I won't be driving.

The loss of tailgating does indeed suck. This is the only team I truly get excited for in sports. I like the Giants and the Yankees, but when they lose, I just shrug it off, not so much with the Devils. We are a sick fan base, and anyone who has partied in the parking lot of CAA can attest. But, in any case, I'd still take the new arena, despite the cheaper food and spirits that came with tailgating. Just looks like I'm tailgating on the PATH train.


good way too look at it!

Everyone here knows what the arena looks like and probably up to a point what the general downtown Newark skyline looks like, but there're a few projects in the area that people might not be as aware of or for that matter know what they're projected to look like.

North of the Passaic River in Harrison two major projects are in the works: Harrison MetroCenter and Harrison Commons.

The MetroCenter is in conjunction with the new Red Bull Park soccer stadium.http://www.advancerealtygroup.com/ehtml/harrison/images/Aerial.jpg

Harrison Commons is a residential/retail area north of Harrison's PATH station.
http://www.thepegasusgroup.com/images/harrisonCommons3.jpg
http://www.tortigallaschk.com/images/THUMBS/50163/resource/screen_75910.jpg

Newark is also getting a few new projects going in addition to the arena. Minish Park along the river will make that an even more beautiful attraction for the city as well as developments planned in the NJPAC area that are seen in this City Planning Board release drawing:
http://aycu29.webshots.com/image/22068/2001329166301969589_rs.jpg

I was in Downtown Newark today and I drove by the arena on all 4 sides.
Progress looks to have been made, there is a lot of work going on outside the arena too on the Mulberry Street side.
FYI downtown Newark just keeps on getting better every time I go there. There are tons of business people walking around the streets: Raymond Blvd, McCarter Highway, Broad Street, Mulberry St., Clinton Street, Washington Street, Halsey, etc.
I don't know why anyone would be scared to come in to this area of Newark.
The light rail also looked busy.

On the topic of what could have been, the new Jets/Giants stadium was unveiled today to a collective "it could have been worse... as in it could have looked like Xanadu."

Here are a few pics:

http://hfboards.com/imagehosting/thum_5396746df115bbe77e.jpg (http://hfboards.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=8405)

http://hfboards.com/imagehosting/thum_5396746df1180d5a51.jpg (http://hfboards.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=8406)

It looks like a retro jukebox... or a toaster. Personally, I think the Prudential Center has far more personality and is much more aesthetically pleasing. Who doesn't love red brick? Anyway, here's one more.

http://hfboards.com/imagehosting/thum_5396746df11946d19e.jpg (http://hfboards.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=8407)

now the question is how long till we get an all-star game in this building? I believe Montreal has it in 08-09 for their 100th season...

I know there are plenty of new and very nice arena's in the NHL that hasn't had an all-star game yet.

FYI - People asking about partial plan info...

More paper work will be going out about weekend/weekday plans in the next week or so...and then there will be more info about smaller game packages.

FYI - People asking about partial plan info...

More paper work will be going out about weekend/weekday plans in the next week or so...and then there will be more info about smaller game packages.
Sweeeet :D

FYI - People asking about partial plan info...

More paper work will be going out about weekend/weekday plans in the next week or so...and then there will be more info about smaller game packages.

I got a big package.....season tix :naughty:

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Not to rush Cogswell Realty (they were one of the few to development some of Newark's most prominent structures ie 744 & 1180 raymond blvd) but I kind of want their projects to happen soon:

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These projects are only about 2 blocks away from the arena and even mention the arena as part of the attraction

Pru Center todayhttp://hfboards.com/imagehosting/thum_5788446df2fe9eaadf.jpg (http://hfboards.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=8412)

cj: I posted the new pics yesterday morning!

and yes the parking garages will go up real fast it only takes a couple of weeks to put them up. Next garage will be the one for regular ticket holders with the parking pass! that one is going up right next to the arena!

It does take sometime building the parking decks with the fire alarm and lighting and power that has to be run in the decks it takes sometime to build. It is a lot longer than two weeks. The structure alone takes at least a month or more.;) The garage on the side of the arena (the 500 space parking decks for the club seat owners and Devils office employees) is moving quickly as the ironworkers are putting the huge pieces of the deck together. The other parking decks will be not too long after that. First they have to knock down some old buildings first. They are going to use the parking lots that are already there for now to open the season from what I was told today by Jeff Vanderbeek himself. The lot right in front of the arena will be used for the Devils season ticket holders with the season parking passes and then across the street for the remaining parking passes. There are other big lots (pictured in the photos above in the other posts) in the area so there is really no bad places to park for this seasons game. The rest of the parking decks will be put up in the near future-possibly during the season. There will be no other parking decks right next to the arena.

I am going to have some pretty cool pics coming up this weekend when I download them all and the huge mural is really looking sharp and good.:yo: They are also installing the seating in the upper level behind Brodeur's net where he defends once. The boards for the rink was also delivered today and will get some pictures of them in their packages on the crates tomorrow. They will start to assemble the boards by weeks end or early next week.

That is all for now Devils fans.:)

Hells.

just got my wallet schedule..and on the seating chart, and the black and brown seats (200 and 10 dollar seats) it says 'sold out'..does anyone know if that means that every 10 dollar seat for every home game is sold out..anyone know if this is true?

On the topic of what could have been, the new Jets/Giants stadium was unveiled today to a collective "it could have been worse... as in it could have looked like Xanadu."

Here are a few pics:

http://hfboards.com/imagehosting/thum_5396746df115bbe77e.jpg (http://hfboards.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=8405)

http://hfboards.com/imagehosting/thum_5396746df1180d5a51.jpg (http://hfboards.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=8406)

It looks like a retro jukebox... or a toaster. Personally, I think the Prudential Center has far more personality and is much more aesthetically pleasing. Who doesn't love red brick? Anyway, here's one more.

http://hfboards.com/imagehosting/thum_5396746df11946d19e.jpg (http://hfboards.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=8407)

Very generic. I'm not paying for it, though.

It'll be interesting to see how they give it "personality" with the two
tenants, the gimmicks they mention (rotating murals and lighting) are
pretty lame.

Prudential Center would be very different if it was a joint
project, with the Nets, as it was initially supposed to be. For *us*,
it's definately better it happened the way it happened. If they do
eventually end up playing there, they play as a tenant, instead of a
partner... unless Ratner sold them to Vanderbeek, I guess.

I don't know why NJ tries so hard to keep these teams. With the tax breaks they get is it even worth having them?

http://www.northjersey.com/page.php?qstr=eXJpcnk3ZjczN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXkxMjEmZmdi ZWw3Zjd2cWVlRUV5eTcxOTEwMzEmeXJpcnk3ZjcxN2Y3dnFlZU VFeXk2

just got my wallet schedule..and on the seating chart, and the black and brown seats (200 and 10 dollar seats) it says 'sold out'..does anyone know if that means that every 10 dollar seat for every home game is sold out..anyone know if this is true?

That just means that season tickets for those seats are sold out...

There will be individual game tickets available for games.

Wait a second, someone was complaining about 11k season ticket holders? Thats pretty damn nice in my opinion. Dont the Sabres have 12k?

It does take sometime building the parking decks with the fire alarm and lighting and power that has to be run in the decks it takes sometime to build. It is a lot longer than two weeks. The structure alone takes at least a month or more.;) The garage on the side of the arena (the 500 space parking decks for the club seat owners and Devils office employees) is moving quickly as the ironworkers are putting the huge pieces of the deck together. The other parking decks will be not too long after that. First they have to knock down some old buildings first. They are going to use the parking lots that are already there for now to open the season from what I was told today by Jeff Vanderbeek himself. The lot right in front of the arena will be used for the Devils season ticket holders with the season parking passes and then across the street for the remaining parking passes. There are other big lots (pictured in the photos above in the other posts) in the area so there is really no bad places to park for this seasons game. The rest of the parking decks will be put up in the near future-possibly during the season. There will be no other parking decks right next to the arena.

I am going to have some pretty cool pics coming up this weekend when I download them all and the huge mural is really looking sharp and good.:yo: They are also installing the seating in the upper level behind Brodeur's net where he defends once. The boards for the rink was also delivered today and will get some pictures of them in their packages on the crates tomorrow. They will start to assemble the boards by weeks end or early next week.

That is all for now Devils fans.:)

Hells.


I disagree. Parking garages take less than a month to go up. Everything is prefab. From what I have expierenced in some of the engineering meetings that I have been in parking garages take no time in at all to go up... Maybe the electrical part of it may take time, but the actually garage takes no time to put up....

It does take sometime building the parking decks with the fire alarm and lighting and power that has to be run in the decks it takes sometime to build. It is a lot longer than two weeks. The structure alone takes at least a month or more.;) The garage on the side of the arena (the 500 space parking decks for the club seat owners and Devils office employees) is moving quickly as the ironworkers are putting the huge pieces of the deck together. The other parking decks will be not too long after that. First they have to knock down some old buildings first. They are going to use the parking lots that are already there for now to open the season from what I was told today by Jeff Vanderbeek himself. The lot right in front of the arena will be used for the Devils season ticket holders with the season parking passes and then across the street for the remaining parking passes. There are other big lots (pictured in the photos above in the other posts) in the area so there is really no bad places to park for this seasons game. The rest of the parking decks will be put up in the near future-possibly during the season. There will be no other parking decks right next to the arena.

I am going to have some pretty cool pics coming up this weekend when I download them all and the huge mural is really looking sharp and good.:yo: They are also installing the seating in the upper level behind Brodeur's net where he defends once. The boards for the rink was also delivered today and will get some pictures of them in their packages on the crates tomorrow. They will start to assemble the boards by weeks end or early next week.

That is all for now Devils fans.:)

Hells.

I heard about a situation with a leaky roof that delayed construction on some of the suites and cost a few thousand in repairs. Do you know anything about that?

The new Jets/Giants stadium sucks ass. Without a roof, what the **** is the point of building a new stadium?

It instantly puts us out of bidding for the Super Bowl and makes it less useful in the winter time for concerts. Grrrr.

I disagree. Parking garages take less than a month to go up. Everything is prefab. From what I have expierenced in some of the engineering meetings that I have been in parking garages take no time in at all to go up... Maybe the electrical part of it may take time, but the actually garage takes no time to put up....

So far it is three weeks for the parking deck for the 500 space parking deck on the side of the arena. It takes a while to put up the pre made planking. They are not even close to finishing the planking pieces for this parking deck. Trust me I am in construction for well over 20 years and have worked on many parking decks. The Rutgers and NJIT parking decks here in Newark took almost four months to assemble.;):teach: In about two to three weeks this parking deck on the side of the arena will be fully assembled.

New Giants stadium looks like a diner, and this ISSS New Jersey...

The new Jets/Giants stadium sucks ass. Without a roof, what the **** is the point of building a new stadium?

It instantly puts us out of bidding for the Super Bowl and makes it less useful in the winter time for concerts. Grrrr.

The same point the Devils had for building a new arena. Increased revenue from Luxury Boxes.

The same point the Devils had for building a new arena. Increased revenue from Luxury Boxes.

How does building a roof on your stadium negate the # of boxes you can build?

A roof would easily cost another $500 million dollars. They werent going to spend that much more money, so quit complaining about it. And if you want to, make a thread about the new meadowlands stadium.

Mara said there will be train lines from NYC and Newark.
If so, That will let us fans tailgate at the Meadowlands, then take the train to The Rock in Newark!:handclap:

So the job fair thing for the arena is today... there are tons of people lined up for a few blocks. So much for me looking into it

I just emailed me ticket rep and he said that their management team is working on the partial plans and that while there is no new information currently, plans would be available for sale to the public within the next few weeks.

Next few weeks, huh? That sounds familiar...

Well I guess I shouldn't be concerned about there being nobody to work there next month.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2007/09/thousands_line_up_for_jobs_at.html

Well I guess I shouldn't be concerned about there being nobody to work there next month.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2007/09/thousands_line_up_for_jobs_at.html

They should have been hired to help build the arena last year...:p:

Yeah I was at the job fair today. Was there for nearly 3 hours, 2 hours in line. hours. Gonna be crazy again tomorrow morning I bet. Oh and Vanderbeek and Booker were there too.

Yeah I was at the job fair today. Was there for nearly 3 hours, 2 hours in line. hours. Gonna be crazy again tomorrow morning I bet. Oh and Vanderbeek and Booker were there too.

Cool, how did the whole process go?? I only got one class early tomorrow, so I can actually check it out.

Cool, how did the whole process go?? I only got one class early tomorrow, so I can actually check it out.

Typical job fair stuff. AEG had a visual presentation at the artium with the Stapes Center and the Rock(bunch of Devils highlights). Booker greeted the crowd. Centerplate interviewed me and they're supposed to call me back in a couple weeks,but training starts in early October. But if you're gonna show up, do it early(like 8am).

So, does the old CAA PA announcer (Bob Arsena was his name I think) come along with the team or did he work for the NJSEA?

Bob's been gone for 2 years now.

So, does the old CAA PA announcer (Bob Arsena was his name I think) come along with the team or did he work for the NJSEA?

Bob Gellerstein is our PA guy, he does updates on ESPN radio too.
***He used to be the Rags PA guy, but he left for greener pastures

Bob Gellerstein is our PA guy, he does updates on ESPN radio too.
***He used to be the Rags PA guy, but he left for greener pastures

I always thought Bob Galerstein was a quality guy and was sorry to lose him.

I liked Bob Arsena. I remember one time I went to a Trenton Titans game and after the Titans scored he said "Devils goal" by accident and all the Titans/Flyers fans started booing.

Bob Gellerstein is our PA guy, he does updates on ESPN radio too.
***He used to be the Rags PA guy, but he left for greener pastures

So, does he move with the Devils to Newark? Or is he an NJSEA person?

So, does he move with the Devils to Newark? Or is he an NJSEA person?

It's a Devils position.

Mara said there will be train lines from NYC and Newark.
If so, That will let us fans tailgate at the Meadowlands, then take the train to The Rock in Newark!:handclap:Go ahead if you like to still gve your money to the friggin NJSEA 20$ to park so you better trash the place before you leave for the "Rock".

I liked Bob Arsena. I remember one time I went to a Trenton Titans game and after the Titans scored he said "Devils goal" by accident and all the Titans/Flyers fans started booing.I was at that game wasn't it a playoff game? I was never so proud to be a Titans fan after that.

I was at that game wasn't it a playoff game? I was never so proud to be a Titans fan after that.

I was there too and that was great. I just started cheering loudly. This was before the Titans were Devils property too. This was when they were making their cup run during the 2005 lockout. They also had the old Flyers PA announcer for a few games and I remember they used Dan Foose (?), our old national anthem singer for a few games. I had goosebumps when Arsena introduced him. I'd still like to know what eventually got Bob fired. He was there for our first pre-season game after the lockout and then just disappeared.

Go ahead if you like to still gve your money to the friggin NJSEA 20$ to park so you better trash the place before you leave for the "Rock".


Why would the meadowlands charge you to park when there was no event there that night??

It's actually not such a horrible idea, but the rail link wont be ready till like late 2008. You can park for free at the meadowlands, and use it almost as a park and ride.

I was there too and that was great. I just started cheering loudly. This was before the Titans were Devils property too. This was when they were making their cup run during the 2005 lockout. They also had the old Flyers PA announcer for a few games and I remember they used Dan Foose (?), our old national anthem singer for a few games. I had goosebumps when Arsena introduced him. I'd still like to know what eventually got Bob fired. He was there for our first pre-season game after the lockout and then just disappeared.

Was he fired, or didn't he just retire? He was doing our games forever.

Was he fired, or didn't he just retire? He was doing our games forever.

I believe the team had to let him go during the lockout.