Jeff Friesen

njdevsrule23
08-19-2007, 01:34 PM
What do you think about bring him back? He is my favorite player in the NHL (since he was on the Devils), and a good friend while he was here. I have a game used stick from him, among many other things. Ehkund FINALLY has him on Devils rador, and I think we should bring him back! Don't look at the last couple of years, he wasn't used right at all! Calgary used him 5-10 mins a night, what can you do with that? He needs to be back in some kind of spotlight! BRING JEFF BACK!!

The lines I think should look like this:

Elias-Zubrus-Gio
Zajac-Parise-Friesen
Pandolfo-Madden-Langs
Asham-Rupp-Brylin

What do y'all think?

Ronnie Bass
08-19-2007, 01:36 PM
I think he's done like a over-cooked turkey.

Alcoolique
08-19-2007, 01:39 PM
He's done.

HBK27
08-19-2007, 01:45 PM
I think I'd much, much, much, much, much, much, much, rather see Clarkson in that spot.

Brodeur
08-19-2007, 01:46 PM
He just hasn't been a 2nd line player since the 2003 playoffs. Earlier in the offseason, I could have maybe envisioned getting him back and putting him on a line with Langenbrunner, then putting Clarkson with Parise/Zajac. But at this point, our LW (Elias, Parise, Pandolfo, Rupp/Brylin) and RW (Gionta, Langenbrunner, Clarkson, Asham/Janssen) look to be full.

Anyways, here are some Friesen highlights I pulled from the Championship DVD:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTgwCotRMgY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOA1wG8j13Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk-hK21tEac

Lucifer*
08-19-2007, 01:47 PM
I would love to have Jeff back, he would be a good weapon on the revamped Devils team, and we could get him cheap !!

dkball7
08-19-2007, 01:52 PM
I would love to have Jeff back, he would be a good weapon on the revamped Devils team, and we could get him cheap !!

How many "good weapons" score 6g 6a in 72 games?

njdevsrule23
08-19-2007, 01:52 PM
I would love to have Jeff back, he would be a good weapon on the revamped Devils team, and we could get him cheap !!

Exactly!

How many "good weapons" score 6g 6a in 72 games?

He was put on the 4th line and vented about his horrible role, didn't any read that?

Jeff Friesen is leaving Calgary — probably for good — with a bitter taste in his mouth.

Not just from the first-round playoff exit. He’s also unhappy with the role he was given after joining the Flames as a free agent last summer.

“I left a really good situation in Anaheim but it was a step back into becoming a defensive forward,” Friesen vented yesterday as the Flames emptied their stalls and split up for the off-season.

“I thought I could come here and help out in a bigger role. That was disappointing.”

The 30-year-old winger has a history with Flames GM Darryl Sutter.

The two were together for parts of four seasons in San Jose and Friesen was eager to reunite in Calgary on a team he felt was ready to challenge for the Stanley Cup. But Friesen, who again becomes an unrestricted free agent July 1, says he didn’t get what he expected.

“I just wanted to be with Darryl and I never really asked any questions,” Friesen said.

“I had 100 percent belief that I was going to come in here and be a big part of the team. It just wasn’t really that kind of attitude when I got here.”

Friesen managed just six goals and a half-dozen assists in 72 games during the regular season while averaging 12:10 of ice time. He was the only roster regular other than Tony Amonte who started the year as a Flame and finished with a minus rating.

“You need your coach to believe in you. I just want to work hard this summer and get in the right situation where the coach believes in me.”

ALine9900
08-19-2007, 02:10 PM
He averaged 12:10 ice time..

åboriginal
08-19-2007, 02:20 PM
i dont even need to read the post


NO

goin2hell
08-19-2007, 02:29 PM
He had a strange season with Calgary. He took very short shifts and as long as he did not make any mistakes or get scored on he was satisfied. Never really seemed like he tried to step up. 4th line at best on NJ but better left alone.

jkrdevil
08-19-2007, 02:30 PM
Exactly!



He was put on the 4th line and vented about his horrible role, didn't any read that?

Now did you ever ask the question of why he was put on the forth line? Perhaps he was put on the 4th line because he's washed up.

Phogary Flayotes
08-19-2007, 02:30 PM
He averaged 12:10 ice time..

He had alot of opportunity here but was just flipping awful. I swear to god, the only two arena he shows up and plays great in are the Continental Arena, and the Arrowhead Pond.

Perhaps the Prudential Center will continue that magic? lol

Lucifer*
08-19-2007, 02:31 PM
How many "good weapons" score 6g 6a in 72 games?

1st off we need move speed and Jeff has a lot of that to burn, Playing on the 4th line for the flames was not a good fit for him and the flames and Devils play a different style, so I am willing to bring him back at a good price.

Ronnie Bass
08-19-2007, 02:37 PM
1st off we need move speed and Jeff has a lot of that to burn, Playing on the 4th line for the flames was not a good fit for him and the flames and Devils play a different style, so I am willing to bring him back at a good price.

Have you seen him play at all the last two seasons? If it wasn't for his playoff performance in 2003 he probably would have been out of this league by now.

Colin Whites Eye
08-19-2007, 02:37 PM
oh please god no

crashlanding
08-19-2007, 02:39 PM
1st off we need move speed and Jeff has a lot of that to burn, Playing on the 4th line for the flames was not a good fit for him and the flames and Devils play a different style, so I am willing to bring him back at a good price.
Most of his speed was burnt when he got injured playing in DC.

Lucifer*
08-19-2007, 02:43 PM
Have you seen him play at all the last two seasons? If it wasn't for his playoff performance in 2003 he probably would have been out of this league by now.

I have the package, I watch most games, and it was hard to watch him since he was never on the ice, who would you rather watch him or asham ??? lol what a joke.

Systemfel
08-19-2007, 02:45 PM
He was put on the 4th line and vented about his horrible role, didn't any read that?He did get a shot at being a top sixer for the Flames, you know. He just didn't capitalize at the opportunity.

Ronnie Bass
08-19-2007, 02:47 PM
I have the package, I watch most games, and it was hard to watch him since he was never on the ice, who would you rather watch him or asham ??? lol what a joke.

Wow.

crashlanding
08-19-2007, 02:47 PM
I have the package, I watch most games, and it was hard to watch him since he was never on the ice, who would you rather watch him or asham ??? lol what a joke.
Haha, I'd rather watch Asham over Friesen 100 times out of 50.

jkrdevil
08-19-2007, 02:56 PM
I have the package, I watch most games, and it was hard to watch him since he was never on the ice, who would you rather watch him or asham ??? lol what a joke.

Asham. He's a couple year younger, he's a bit bigger, and puts up more points that Friesen.

Lucifer*
08-19-2007, 03:02 PM
Haha, I'd rather watch Asham over Friesen 100 times out of 50.

wow no respect for a former Devil cup winner, thats fine ashams best year he had 15 goals, the guy stinks.I will miss Cam kicking his sorry ass.

Jiri Bicek
08-19-2007, 03:02 PM
:thumbd:

Can't hold an attachment to him because of what he did in 03.. Not nearly the same player he was years ago

crashlanding
08-19-2007, 03:03 PM
wow no respect for a former Devil cup winner, thats fine ashams best year he had 15 goals, the guy stinks.I will miss Cam kicking his sorry A@$
You're right, let's try to get him on a line with Marshall and Pascal Rheaume...try to recapture some of that 2003 magic. :shakehead

Also, I hate to break it to you, but there doesn't appear to be room for Cam on the team. Certainly not as an every day player.

Jiri Bicek
08-19-2007, 03:06 PM
You're right, let's try to get him on a line with Marshall and Pascal Rheaume...try to recapture some of that 2003 magic. :shakehead

While we're at it let's get Smelik to fill in Rafalski's void :sarcasm:

Gunnar Stahl 30
08-19-2007, 03:15 PM
What do you think about bring him back? He is my favorite player in the NHL (since he was on the Devils), and a good friend while he was here. I have a game used stick from him, among many other things. Ehkund FINALLY has him on Devils rador, and I think we should bring him back! Don't look at the last couple of years, he wasn't used right at all! Calgary used him 5-10 mins a night, what can you do with that? He needs to be back in some kind of spotlight! BRING JEFF BACK!!

The lines I think should look like this:

Elias-Zubrus-Gio
Zajac-Parise-Friesen
Pandolfo-Madden-Langs
Asham-Rupp-Brylin

What do y'all think?

you have some messed up lines

plus there would be no room for clarkson and i would much rather give him a chance than sign friesn

Elias to Parise
08-19-2007, 03:15 PM
I have the package, I watch most games, and it was hard to watch him since he was never on the ice, who would you rather watch him or asham ??? lol what a joke.

Asham hands down, it's just not close. I feel bad for Friesen. He still has a good skill set but he has no confidence whatsoever. You can have all the skill in the world but if you dont believe in your abilities it means nothing. His speed is whats keepin him in league.

mrthemike
08-19-2007, 03:27 PM
Friesen is freezin'.

Alcoolique
08-19-2007, 03:29 PM
You're right, let's try to get him on a line with Marshall and Pascal Rheaume...try to recapture some of that 2003 magic. :shakehead

Also, I hate to break it to you, but there doesn't appear to be room for Cam on the team. Certainly not as an every day player.


And get out of retirement Nieuwendyk/Stevens/Daneyko and also..Tverdosky/Ralfaski...


OOPS, I FORGET GOMEZ...

coloradorockies80
08-19-2007, 03:39 PM
Brilient idea to bring him back. Now the team can have even more players who cant score if their life depended on it. 1st off Friesen’s career is basically done. 2nd, Enough bringing in more UFAs. This is ridiculous. There is a reason teams draft players…to develop them and have them play in the NHL. People here seem to forget that, and want to bring in every single borderline/washed up veteran. A spot is all but reserved for Clarkson next year, and their always remains the possibility of bergfors or someone being ready.

coloradorockies80
08-19-2007, 03:42 PM
their was a reason he, not gionta was traded after the lockout. Freisen was bad in 03-04 and lou correctly predicted he was not going to get better, and was on the decline

Lou's Koolaid
08-19-2007, 03:52 PM
C'mon guys Friesen is the reason and will save our season!!!:sarcasm:

Give'em Hell!
08-19-2007, 04:17 PM
Brilient idea to bring him back. Now the team can have even more players who cant score if their life depended on it. 1st off Friesen’s career is basically done. 2nd, Enough bringing in more UFAs. This is ridiculous. There is a reason teams draft players…to develop them and have them play in the NHL. People here seem to forget that, and want to bring in every single borderline/washed up veteran. A spot is all but reserved for Clarkson next year, and their always remains the possibility of bergfors or someone being ready.

Thank you i didnt have to say it. NO Friesen, i dont want to see any more bottom 6 UFA's signed, period. Vrana, Bergfors, Clarkson, hell even Khomutov should be fighting for a spot not the Jeff Friesen's of the world.

Darius Dangleaitis
08-19-2007, 04:34 PM
wow no respect for a former Devil cup winner, thats fine ashams best year he had 15 goals, the guy stinks.I will miss Cam kicking his sorry ass.

Yeah you're making some good points...:biglaugh:

Asham will play on the 4th line and be our best 4th liner by far, unless Brylin plays there which he might. Asham can skate, fight, and contribute on offense...much like the 4th liners of the Stanley Cup Champion Ducks can and the Senators 4th liners, who cleaned our clocks, can.

Face it, it's been said several times here and will be said again...we were manhandled in last year's playoffs and guys like Asham will put an end to that.

As for Friesen...he's done. The guy was clutch as hell in '03 but there is NO WAY he is a top 6 forward in the NHL nowadays. It also makes me sick that some people actually suggested signing Jason Allison. What a disgusting idea.

I love Friesen for what he did in '03 but he would only slow us down.

Mose Schrute
08-19-2007, 07:22 PM
I want to remember Jeff Freisan as the 2003 Devil that scored some huge goals for us, not as the 2007-08 4th line winger who I cimplain and moan about taking ice time away from others and not capitalizing on the few chances he may get.

Lou's Koolaid
08-19-2007, 07:27 PM
I want to remember Jeff Freisan as the 2003 Devil that scored some huge goals for us, not as the 2007-08 4th line winger who I cimplain and moan about taking ice time away from others and not capitalizing on the few chances he may get.And I want to remember Grant Marshall for his OT winner v.s Tampa and his assist on Friesen's goal in Ottawa not as a 4th liner in 07-08.

Darius Dangleaitis
08-19-2007, 07:43 PM
I want to remember Jeff Freisan as the 2003 Devil that scored some huge goals for us, not as the 2007-08 4th line winger who I cimplain and moan about taking ice time away from others and not capitalizing on the few chances he may get.

+1

And I want to remember Grant Marshall for his OT winner v.s Tampa and his assist on Friesen's goal in Ottawa not as a 4th liner in 07-08.

and +1

Ronnie Bass
08-19-2007, 07:50 PM
And I want to remember Steve Thomas for....uh...uhm.....*sigh*...

crashlanding
08-19-2007, 07:55 PM
their was a reason he, not gionta was traded after the lockout. Freisen was bad in 03-04 and lou correctly predicted he was not going to get better, and was on the decline
Well the main reason was that Gionta was going to make less than 700K and Friesen was set to make 2.3M I believe.

PromNite
08-19-2007, 07:55 PM
I want to remember Jeff Freisan as the 2003 Devil that scored some huge goals for us, not as the 2007-08 4th line winger who I cimplain and moan about taking ice time away from others and not capitalizing on the few chances he may get.

Messier syndrome... :)

Lou's Koolaid
08-19-2007, 07:56 PM
And I want to remember Steve Thomas for....uh...uhm.....*sigh*...For leading the 95-96 team in scoring with something like 60pts.

Ronnie Bass
08-19-2007, 08:03 PM
For leading the 95-96 team in scoring with something like 60pts.

It was still one of our worst trades ever, and I don't know why he didn't fit.

JerryGigantic
08-19-2007, 08:29 PM
Freeze is essentially frozen out of the league.

He has lost his speed due to injury an old age, and he possesses a terrible, whiney attitude. He was openly miserable in Washington, and did not contribute, and despite a huge opportunity in Calgary, he placed the blame on them for his less than stellar performance, not his poor, tentative play, despite averaging more than 12 minutes a game for 70 NHL games. Hardly a short leash.

We do not need to revisit old, faded glory. One would think the Mogilny/Malakhov debacle would prove, forever, without a shadow of doubt that you can never go back.

Elias to Parise
08-19-2007, 09:40 PM
And I want to remember Steve Thomas for....uh...uhm.....*sigh*...

..for only being able to score a goal when he was helmetless. Anyone else remember that?

Elias to Parise
08-19-2007, 09:43 PM
Well the main reason was that Gionta was going to make less than 700K and Friesen was set to make 2.3M I believe.


Wasn't it between Friesen and Kozlov? That's what I remember from that summer.

Why would we even think about trading Gionta back then. He was 25 years old and coming off his first 20 goal season. That poster was way off, IMHO.

HBK27
08-19-2007, 10:00 PM
Wasn't it between Friesen and Kozlov? That's what I remember from that summer.

Why would we even think about trading Gionta back then. He was 25 years old and coming off his first 20 goal season. That poster was way off, IMHO.

Exactly what I was going to say...those were the only two guys that Lou was considering moving to get under the cap. Can't say Lou didn't make the right choice either as Kozlov at least chipped in with the shootout goals while Friesen more or less **** the bed since leaving.

borrachon
08-19-2007, 10:05 PM
I'd rather bring back Christian Berglund.

crashlanding
08-19-2007, 10:12 PM
Wasn't it between Friesen and Kozlov? That's what I remember from that summer.

Why would we even think about trading Gionta back then. He was 25 years old and coming off his first 20 goal season. That poster was way off, IMHO.
It was, and Kozlov wouldn't have gotten us close to the cap (I think it was a 700K difference). You're right about Gionta never being an option too, I was just pointing out that moving Friesen was more of a cap move than a personnel move.

Mr Bojanglez
08-20-2007, 09:13 AM
While we're at it let's get Smelik to fill in Rafalski's void :sarcasm:

Ha thats pretty funny. I have to admit, I'm a Friesen fan (even before his time on the Devs, he rocked in NHL '01. He wasn't horrible on the Devils (scoring 40 goals over two seasons) and we all remember him and Marshal in '03 against the Sens.

If the price was right (which it won't be because he has always had an over-inflated sense of self worth), I would take him. The guy is FAST, is only 31, and has the skill when hes playing. Other than the Sharks he hasn't had a place to call home. If he had a place to settle in, he could make it happen

Even if he would accept a one year/ 1mil contract, I think I'd rather give the time to Clarkson. If he would sign less than that, I'd take him

njdevsrule23
08-20-2007, 10:30 AM
If the price was right (which it won't be because he has always had an over-inflated sense of self worth), I would take him. The guy is FAST, is only 31, and has the skill when hes playing. Other than the Sharks he hasn't had a place to call home. If he had a place to settle in, he could make it happen

Even if he would accept a one year/ 1mil contract, I think I'd rather give the time to Clarkson. If he would sign less than that, I'd take him

EXACTLY! He's not going to ask for a lot of money. I can see him signing a contract for 2 yrs for 1.5 mil (750k a year), just to play hockey again and show his talent again.

Overtime98
08-20-2007, 10:38 AM
I wonder if friesen still owns that house he bought last year in Mountain lakes.

He bought a house in Mountain lakes for 1.5 million right before he was traded to Calgary from Washington. My guess he bought it for his wife and kids and he stays there during the offseason, if he still owns it.

devsfan8
08-20-2007, 10:48 AM
I wonder if friesen still owns that house he bought last year in Mountain lakes.

He bought a house in Mountain lakes for 1.5 million right before he was traded to Calgary from Washington. My guess he bought it for his wife and kids and he stays there during the offseason, if he still owns it.

He closed on the house the day he was dealt which is ironic.

At this point if anyone could uplift Jeff Friesen into even remotely anything even a little like the player he once was it is Brent Sutter. Friesen allows his performance to effect him. He lacks confidence.

I think he could still have a roll with NJ. He is no risk. Sign him, if he sucks send him on his way via waivers.

At this point with Camp coming close and him not have a contract I am sure he will sign a two way deal. This way he can be sent down and not waste a spot for someone who can have more of an impact in the lineup.

Regardless, it could not hurt to give Friesen another shot. If he turns his game around, then great he is another weapon. If not...hello Lowell and playing in front of 500 everynight.

I would certainly consider Jeff Friesen for $665,000 1 year. How could anyone argue that?

MoonDragn
08-20-2007, 11:08 AM
He closed on the house the day he was dealt which is ironic.

At this point if anyone could uplift Jeff Friesen into even remotely anything even a little like the player he once was it is Brent Sutter. Friesen allows his performance to effect him. He lacks confidence.

I think he could still have a roll with NJ. He is no risk. Sign him, if he sucks send him on his way via waivers.

At this point with Camp coming close and him not have a contract I am sure he will sign a two way deal. This way he can be sent down and not waste a spot for someone who can have more of an impact in the lineup.

Regardless, it could not hurt to give Friesen another shot. If he turns his game around, then great he is another weapon. If not...hello Lowell and playing in front of 500 everynight.

I would certainly consider Jeff Friesen for $665,000 1 year. How could anyone argue that?

I agree. If you can sign him cheap enough then let him fight for a spot on the team in the training camp. If he doesn't improve, we can always use him in Lowell.

I too am looking forward to Clarkson playing but if someone can beat him out in training camp it is better for the team and he would have worked his ass off for a spot instead of just cruising in.

JerryGigantic
08-20-2007, 01:47 PM
EXACTLY! He's not going to ask for a lot of money. I can see him signing a contract for 2 yrs for 1.5 mil (750k a year), just to play hockey again and show his talent again.

Two years? At 750K? Are you kidding me? He hasn't had a productive season since 2003, no team wants him (at any price), he has been a locker room cancer on every team he has been on since he left the Devils... And you want to give a completely washed up player, with a bad attitude, a TWO YEAR contract -- making him essentially untradable and unwaivable -- and pay him nearly what Jay Pandolfo makes -- who was a Selke finalist! Good lord, man. Big, big, big, big, big, big, big NO.

WHEN (not "if") he remains unsigned come training camp, perhaps he gets a Jim Dowd type one year league minimum deal, essentially as a reserve forward. But even that seems like a waste of roster space. Pretty sure he wouldn't qualify for a two-way deal, as a veteran player, so this would be the only thing I could see happening -- although I don't want to see it.

And I really liked Jeff Friesen when he was here. But that person doesn't exist anymore. What is left is a shadow of his former self. Let it go, folks. Let it go.

4check22
08-20-2007, 03:24 PM
Where the heck is The Omen on this one? I'll try my best . . .


Friesen's a bum. I don't even mean an out-of-work person dressed in shabby clothing. A person like that might deserve some compassion. No, I mean a person's bum. A bum that needs to be slapped and spanked until it removes itself from the surroundings. A bum.

Phogary Flayotes
08-20-2007, 04:42 PM
I wonder if friesen still owns that house he bought last year in Mountain lakes.

He bought a house in Mountain lakes for 1.5 million right before he was traded to Calgary from Washington. My guess he bought it for his wife and kids and he stays there during the offseason, if he still owns it.

Freezer Burn wasn't traded. He was signed as a UFA.

HBK27
08-20-2007, 04:56 PM
Two years? At 750K? Are you kidding me? He hasn't had a productive season since 2003, no team wants him (at any price), he has been a locker room cancer on every team he has been on since he left the Devils... And you want to give a completely washed up player, with a bad attitude, a TWO YEAR contract -- making him essentially untradable and unwaivable -- and pay him nearly what Jay Pandolfo makes -- who was a Selke finalist! Good lord, man. Big, big, big, big, big, big, big NO.

WHEN (not "if") he remains unsigned come training camp, perhaps he gets a Jim Dowd type one year league minimum deal, essentially as a reserve forward. But even that seems like a waste of roster space. Pretty sure he wouldn't qualify for a two-way deal, as a veteran player, so this would be the only thing I could see happening -- although I don't want to see it.

And I really liked Jeff Friesen when he was here. But that person doesn't exist anymore. What is left is a shadow of his former self. Let it go, folks. Let it go.

Good post – no way do we sign this guy to a 2-way contract or any other at this point. He still thinks he has something to offer at the NHL level (good for him) and if he were to get demoted to Lowell I don’t think he’d have a good attitude about it or be a great influence on the kids down there (plus he’ll be taking development time away from them). Also, we have no need to bring in another guy to battle it out for 4th line duty. We have more than enough guys duking it out without even taking into consideration which rookies might impress at training camp. If anything, maybe Lou offers Friesen an invitation to camp (assuming he doesn’t get any contract offers) but even that scenario is highly doubtful.

HBK27
08-20-2007, 04:57 PM
Freezer Burn wasn't traded. He was signed as a UFA.

Think he meant to say that Friesen closed on the house in NJ the day he was traded from NJ to Washington.

LOU4PREZIN08
08-20-2007, 10:20 PM
I don't see a fit for him, no matter how nostalgic I may be for the '03 Cup win. As has been stated already in thos thread, his time on the ice, in NJ or in Lowell, would be time taken away from another, younger, skater. He's not Grant Marshall, who was happy to help the kids grow into NHLers, and I don't think a 2-way contract is even an option for Friesen. I don't even think a camp invite would be helpful, he's not the one player that would make the Devs a Cup favorite. So "why bother" seems to be all that keeps crossing my mind...
Thanks for '03, Jeff, good luck in the future.

ClaudeLemieux4HOF
08-21-2007, 09:49 AM
I don't see a fit for him, no matter how nostalgic I may be for the '03 Cup win. As has been stated already in thos thread, his time on the ice, in NJ or in Lowell, would be time taken away from another, younger, skater. He's not Grant Marshall, who was happy to help the kids grow into NHLers, and I don't think a 2-way contract is even an option for Friesen. I don't even think a camp invite would be helpful, he's not the one player that would make the Devs a Cup favorite. So "why bother" seems to be all that keeps crossing my mind...
Thanks for '03, Jeff, good luck in the future.

+1