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Whoo!

is this guy reliable? i dont see any confirmation on this anywhere..if it true, then thats great news!

is this guy reliable? i dont see any confirmation on this anywhere..if it true, then thats great news!

He's the Devils beat writer for the Record.

Also here is confirmation from the Devils site.

http://devils.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=336021

oooooooooooooooooooooooooohhh yeaaaaaaaaahhh. Finally.

Nice!!:handclap:

my prediction: $12 million for 4 years

is this guy reliable? i dont see any confirmation on this anywhere..if it true, then thats great news!
If it's up on his site, it's 100% in my mind and I respect it as such.

I'm refreshing TSN.ca until it comes out. :) But yeah, Gulitti is like Chere except for a different paper.

Still, the offseason, for the most part, is complete with this signing.

At first I thought this was about Jascque (SP?) Martin resigning.

Just a pet peeve of mine, but everyone needs to know the word is "re-sign". Not resign.

Resign means to quit. Re-sign means to... re-sigh.

:handclap:

Very good news. We can finally stop with all the trade poposals us Devil fans had Martin in.

Very good news. We can finally stop with all the trade poposals us Devil fans had Martin in.

or, now that people know what his cap hit can be, they can begin in earnest. :sarcasm:

This is great news wooooooo

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my prediction is 5 years 14.5 mil or 4 years 12 mil.

Yes! Awesome. I can sleep now.

My prediction is 3 years 11 mil.

Prediction.. 3 years 10 million

Great news, now that the team is all together they can focus on improving in training camp for once.

gonna guess 3 to 4 years, averaging 3 to 3.25M per. just glad we've got him signed :)

it's so nice to be able to go to a training camp all in, everyone under contract. It's a great feeling this orginization hasn't had since before the lockout.

Sweet! Gotta give props to Tom Gulitti once again for being on top of this...I'm sure he'll be the 1st with contract details.

I'll predict 4 years @ 17M.

5 years $20M is still my best guess.

GREAT NEWS....

I think Martin's getting around 20$ for 5 year.

Here's the TSN link: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=216262&hubname=

I was going to say a 1yr for 3.5, then finally read the article

3yrs 11 dollars and 50 cents

I am not sure it will be as long as many of you think. He may want to test the waters in a few years for bigger dough. And Knowing Lou, he wouldn't sign him for 5 or more years. 4 is possible, but i see it as a three year deal.

5yyear/21.5millions.

Is my guess.


Wow..Great news :handclap:

I was going to say a 1yr for 3.5, then finally read the article

3yrs 11 dollars and 50 cents

I am not sure it will be as long as many of you think. He may want to test the waters in a few years for bigger dough. And Knowing Lou, he wouldn't sign him for 5 or more years. 4 is possible, but i see it as a three year deal.

Why wouldn't Lou sign him to a big year deal?
See

Brodeur
White
Langenbrunner
Elias
Zubrus

for examples

Penciling in Martin at 4M would leave us $2,540,760 in cap space with this 23 man lineup:
Elias Zubrus Gionta
Parise Zajac Langenbrunner
Pandolfo Madden Brylin
Rupp Viuhkola Asham
Clarkson Janssen

White Martin
Greene Matvichuk
Vishnevski Rachunek
Oduya

Brodeur
Weekes

Those are not line predictions, just a listing of the team.

Why wouldn't Lou sign him to a big year deal?
See

Brodeur Franchise
White- A bit too long and High
Langenbrunner- came cheap and took lower rate to stay in NJ -most likely negotiated for longer contract on that
Elias- Franchise
Zubrus- could be a great deal, we will see though.

for examples

I guess i can't say it wouldn't happen, but there are things that go against it.

I am still not totally sold on Martin like some of you, I hope i am wrong on that. If i am, then think of it from Martin's side. This will be a good pay day, but i am sure he knows he could be in for a bigger one in two-three years as a UFA, so i would think he'd go for three and that would be up Lou's alley. 4 is possible, but it is a gamble. Obviously something was up, otherwise this deal would have been done a month ago.

Im guessing a Parise-esque deal in which he takes a little below market value on deal that takes him to UFA.

Im guessing a Parise-esque deal in which he takes a little below market value on deal that takes him to UFA.

well next year he is UFA eligilble and he signed a muilt-year deal so I doubt it

Im guessing a Parise-esque deal in which he takes a little below market value on deal that takes him to UFA.

I do believe it was discovered that Parise's deal takes him to RFA... Mainly due to where his birthday lands on the calendar. I could be wrong though.

3 year deal according the gullitti

Im guessing a Parise-esque deal in which he takes a little below market value on deal that takes him to UFA.

He's UFA after this season.

And if the 3 year deal is true, that's 2 years of UFA that he's losing there.

It could be a 4M a year contract, which, IMO, would be a fair deal for both sides.

3 year deal according the gullitti

Link?

I do believe it was discovered that Parise's deal takes him to RFA... Mainly due to where his birthday lands on the calendar. I could be wrong though.


You are correct. However, it takes him to the end of the current CBA. So, no one knows what can happen with the age issue concerning UFA's.

Link?
It's in his blog linked in the first post.

You are correct. However, it takes him to the end of the current CBA. So, no one knows what can happen with the age issue concerning UFA's.

The new CBA will put the Free Agent age to 28

:D

Oh well..We don't know, But I hope to.

The new CBA will put the Free Agent age to 28

:D

Oh well..We don't know, But I hope to.

28 sounds good to me, but I doubt the Players Union goes for it. And I hope Martin's cap hit is no more that $3.5 million.

Awesome, awesome news. It's such a great feeling to have the team all put together, unlike last season where we waited until training camp and beyond to figure things out.

28 sounds good to me, but I doubt the Players Union goes for it.

Oh well..

Just send Lou "Godfather" Lamoriello talk to Buttman...(If he's still there.) And that'll be a done deal for Free Agency when your 28years old... ;)

Awesome, awesome news. It's such a great feeling to have the team all put together, unlike last season where we waited until training camp and beyond to figure things out.

Well..

There's less dramma..And less talks of Hockey during August..

But , Its always a good feeling :)

It's going to be 3 mil for 4 years = 12mil, around what Parise got, perfect. Also that's what White's making 3 mil a year.

It's going to be 3 mil for 4 years = 12mil, around what Parise got, perfect. Also that's what White's making 3 mil a year.

That would be a great deal for the Devils but not Martin.

He's older than Parise and is giving up UFA years.

He's better than White. By a decent amount.

He should get around 4M, if not more. Anything less and it's a steal for the Devils.

jonathan, im not gonna lie, your avatar is a bit disturbing lol

That would be a great deal for the Devils but not Martin.

He's older than Parise and is giving up UFA years.

He's better than White. By a decent amount.

He should get around 4M, if not more. Anything less and it's a steal for the Devils.

Maybe he just bleeds red and black?? :)

Penciling in Martin at 4M would leave us $2,540,760 in cap space with this 23 man lineup:
Elias Zubrus Gionta
Parise Zajac Langenbrunner
Pandolfo Madden Brylin
Rupp Viuhkola Asham
Clarkson Janssen

White Martin
Greene Matvichuk
Vishnevski Rachunek
Oduya

Brodeur
Weekes

Those are not line predictions, just a listing of the team.

I might be totally off here. but by looking at nhlnumbers.com (and correct me if its an unreliable site) We have a little over 8mil w/o Martin signed. If you put him in at 4million then we have a little over 4 left?...

Finally.....

I might be totally off here. but by looking at nhlnumbers.com (and correct me if its an unreliable site) We have a little over 8mil w/o Martin signed. If you put him in at 4million then we have a little over 4 left?...
NHLnumbers is completely unreliable. Use nhlscap AND make sure you're counting 23 players (ie. Clarkson, Viukhola, others who might not be counting against the top).

thanks

3 years, 11.5m

2007-8 3m, 2008-9 4m, and 2009-10 4.5m

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news?slug=ap-devils-martin&prov=ap&type=lgns

3 years, 11.5m

2007-8 3m, 2008-9 4m, and 2009-10 4.5m

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news?slug=ap-devils-martin&prov=ap&type=lgns

great deal for Martin and the Devils..had to give him a nice payday for not going to UFA next year and avg 25 minutes a game for us....

So does that make the cap hit $3,833,333?

3 years, 11.5m

2007-8 3m, 2008-9 4m, and 2009-10 4.5m

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news?slug=ap-devils-martin&prov=ap&type=lgns

I'm certainly happy with those numbers - seems like a good deal for both sides. Not bad for a player entering his prime (though it remains to be seen just how good he can be) and giving up two years of unrestricted free agency.

nearly identical contract to Kevin Bieksa, who also gave up three years of UFA eligibility. (3 year extension after this year for $11.25 million.)

So does that make the cap hit $3,833,333?

yep

Ok, so how much cap space do we have then?

unless i have the wrong numbers, we'll have about $4.9 million left in cap space

We do have a salary cap thread for a reason. ;)

And yes, you do have the numbers wrong.

Good deal, should be fun to see how he handles the added pressure and responsibility.

isnt the cap hit for this year 3mil?

His salary for this year is 3mill. Cap hit is 3.83 mill, the average salary over 3yrs

His salary for this year is 3mill. Cap hit is 3.83 mill, the average salary over 3yrs

o ok, so its takes the average salary? so basically to figure out everybody's salayr you have to take the total salary he is making divided by the number of years he is making it for?

Good deal for both parties. And we still have around $4million in cap space. No complaints.

Great deal. Not too pricey, still plent of room for the deadline to get an impact player.

Martin will earn $3 million this season, $4 million in 2008 and $4.5 million in 2009.



martin worth 4.5 in 09' ? by the time 09' season comes around do you think martin will be worth that much as some top echelon d-men are getting around there and upwards?. I don't know too much about em just chiming in....to get specific projections from devil fans if you think he can fill the shoes.

Good deal for both parties. And we still have around $4million in cap space. No complaints.

Just over $3.5 million in cap space, just over $2.7 million if Viuhkola is on the roster for 82 NHL games.

Looks good.

Martin will earn $3 million this season, $4 million in 2008 and $4.5 million in 2009.



martin worth 4.5 in 09' ? by the time 09' season comes around do you think martin will be worth that much as some top echelon d-men are getting around there and upwards?. I don't know too much about em just chiming in....to get specific projections from devil fans if you think he can fill the shoes.

they cap might go up by then

Right around 4M. Great deal for both sides.

Martin will earn $3 million this season, $4 million in 2008 and $4.5 million in 2009.



martin worth 4.5 in 09' ? by the time 09' season comes around do you think martin will be worth that much as some top echelon d-men are getting around there and upwards?. I don't know too much about em just chiming in....to get specific projections from devil fans if you think he can fill the shoes.
Show me the top echelon defensemen that are earning 4.5M in two years, would be eligible for UFA, and didn't take massive discounts (pretty much Ohlund, Salo, and Regehr).

Show me the top echelon defensemen that are earning 4.5M in two years, would be eligible for UFA, and didn't take massive discounts (pretty much Ohlund, Salo, and Regehr).

Chris Phillips signed for 4 years at 3.5 per.

Found a good comparable in Eric Brewer. Like Martin, he eats up a lot of minutes and is basically above average at everything and not awesome at any one aspect. Brewer got 4.25 to stay with the Blues.

Chris Phillips signed for 4 years at 3.5 per.
Still, that was an absurd discount. I put it up there with Salo, Ohlund, and Regehr.

I am just glad that they resigned him before it got to close to training camp. I think he will have a good season, make up for all that money he is making now!

Found a good comparable in Eric Brewer. Like Martin, he eats up a lot of minutes and is basically above average at everything and not awesome at any one aspect. Brewer got 4.25 to stay with the Blues.

And both are and likely will always be #2/3 defenseman. Martin, now, is a #3 guy, IMO. Likely will top out as a "not quite top pairing guy" like Brewer is.

now with the signing of pauly, these 8 guys are most likely gonna be competing to get into the top 6............

martin
white
matvichuk
greene
oduya
rachunek
vishnevski
fraser

this is of course barring any trade that may occur.......the first 4 are pretty much locks

So does that make the cap hit $3,833,333?
Yup. ******* makes calculating cap numbers a PITA.

But it's a very fair cap hit, so no complaints here.

I'd say it's a fair deal for both sides. Infact I am. It's a fair deal for both sides.

i really like the length i was afraid Lou would offer a Ryan Whitney type deal which IMHO Paul is far from. Though Martin is currently our top defenseman i really dont think he will ever be worth 4.5 a year no matter what the market unless he starts to really kick it up a notch. Otherwise i like 3 years because its doesnt handcuff us the way the Langenbrunner and White deals will 3 years from now.

And both are and likely will always be #2/3 defenseman. Martin, now, is a #3 guy, IMO. Likely will top out as a "not quite top pairing guy" like Brewer is.

I don't think Brewer is a good comparision....Brewer has played 518 games in his career and Martin has played 232

Brewer has never scored more than 29 points in a year, Martin had 24 in his rookie season and 37 in second season and 26 points this season in a terrible offensive year for the entire Devil team without any first unit PP Time.....

There is tremendous more amounts offensive Upside in Martin than Brewer and you do not loose a single thing Defensively with Martin.

Martin will never hit anybody like Brewer can, but you simply don't see Martin get beat.

I personally feel he is better than a #3 Dman....He may never be a number #1 and I wouldn't agrue that, but for only 3 NHL season, he has performed well in every single facet of the game and his defensive game has been very, very good---Without a doubt the best Defensive Defensemen for New Jersey over the last two seasons.


I think with Brewer being 2 years older and having 8 NHL season ---What-you-see-is-what-you-get.....I believe we haven't seen all of Martin yet, and even what we have seen is better than Brewer in my opinion (statiscally there is no question)

I really like the contract..lengthwise, as well as salarywise. If Martin does not play up to what is expected from him, than Lou can trade him away....his contract makes him a very tradeable player at any given time. We have him now for 3 years, he can develop into a bonafide D and than get a big paycheck, or he just does not become what people thought he could become and gets a similar deal then. We do not commit our whole future to all of our guys....we can t give everybody 5 6 years....so we have a certain flexibility as well.

Parise and MArtin get more real money with time, but at the same time, Brodeur and Elias´ actual salary will go down. so there is a good balance,too.

What many people forget about Paul MArtin is, that he always plays against the very best, and almost never takes any stupid penalty, or any penalty at all for that matter.....This is a very important statistic, imo...Martin is no #1 but a very solid #2....it is just too bad, that he has to be our #1

I really like the contract..lengthwise, as well as salarywise. If Martin does not play up to what is expected from him, than Lou can trade him away....his contract makes him a very tradeable player at any given time. We have him now for 3 years, he can develop into a bonafide D and than get a big paycheck, or he just does not become what people thought he could become and gets a similar deal then. We do not commit our whole future to all of our guys....we can t give everybody 5 6 years....so we have a certain flexibility as well.

Parise and MArtin get more real money with time, but at the same time, Brodeur and Elias´ actual salary will go down. so there is a good balance,too.

What many people forget about Paul MArtin is, that he always plays against the very best, and almost never takes any stupid penalty, or any penalty at all for that matter.....This is a very important statistic, imo...Martin is no #1 but a very solid #2....it is just too bad, that he has to be our #1

Actually, Brodeur and Elias' contracts ($11.2 million combined) will still be in effect for some time when Martin and Parise's present contracts expire.

I was going to say a 1yr for 3.5, then finally read the article

3yrs 11 dollars and 50 cents

I am not sure it will be as long as many of you think. He may want to test the waters in a few years for bigger dough. And Knowing Lou, he wouldn't sign him for 5 or more years. 4 is possible, but i see it as a three year deal.

Well, I don't like to pat my own Back. Okay so I do.

My prediction is 3 years 11 mil.

Think I was closest ;) You said dollars not millions ;) What do I win? :yo:

Well, I don't like to pat my own Back. Okay so I do.

Think I was closest ;) You said dollars not millions ;) What do I win? :yo:


Ah! Semantics!!!

Well Martin is making about what Rafalski was so I hope he can put up Rafalski type numbers. At 24 or so he should have an upside and improve his game.Time will tell so we'll see.

Actually, Brodeur and Elias' contracts ($11.2 million combined) will still be in effect for some time when Martin and Parise's present contracts expire.

I believe the poster is talking about actual salary as noted in the post and that is true to a certain extent. While the cap hit stays the same, the actual dollars being paid to Elias decreases to 5M a season for the last 3 years of his contract. However, IIRC and confirming with nhlscap numbers, Brodeur's contract salary stays the same over the length of the contract.


Good contract for the Devils and Paul Martin...three years for Martin including 2 UFA years with a cap hit under 4M sounds reasonable in the current environment. Glad this is done now.

not sure if this was posted, I know there were links to the blog entries, etc., anyway link to Gulitti's article in the Bergen Record

Link to article (http://www.bergenrecord.com/page.php?qstr=eXJpcnk3ZjczN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXkxMzImZmdi ZWw3Zjd2cWVlRUV5eTcxODI3NDYmeXJpcnk3ZjcxN2Y3dnFlZU VFeXk2)

Ah! Semantics!!!

Hey the difference between 3.5 mil and 3 mil is .5 mil. the difference between 3.5 mil and 3 dollars and 50 cents is $3,499,996.5 dollars.

Semantics ;) I wouldn't use you as my accountant ;)

Hey the difference between 3.5 mil and 3 mil is .5 mil. the difference between 3.5 mil and 3 dollars and 50 cents is $3,499,996.5 dollars.

Semantics ;) I wouldn't use you as my accountant ;)

whats $3,499,996.50 amongst Friends.

Thats why i am a Designer, but i work with #'s a lot, which makes me wonder how i was off so much.:)

But 3yrs @ $11.50 would be a great cap hit of $3.83.