Peca/Forsberg...Should we?

With Michael Peca and Peter Forsberg still out there, and the Devils "lacking offense" as so often stated, does anybody here think either of these two veterans have a place in NJ? Personally, I don't, but a fellow devils fan buddy of mine thinks that one of them could be the spark to get the forwards going. He felt pretty strongly, and he wasn't too many beers deep, so I thought I would throw this out here, and see what the rest of the board thought...
I know the cap would be a concern, but with Martin's contract unknown, nobody knows where NJ will be when the season does start...
Thanks for any input, I would love to have the support of the board, but would accept defeat if the majority think it could work.

Peca hasn't really provided much offense of note since '01-'02... and everyone is going to have to wait until the middle of the season for the Forsberg scenario at that.

id love to see forsberg in a devils uni but it will never happen, not a chance

NO

We just got out of injured/lazy/useless player cap hell, we don't need another round.

peca yes if the price is right and forsberg no

but peca is close to signing with the rags i hear

Hell no to Peca, his best days are long behind him.
Fosberg yes if a 1-Year deal and he fits under the cap, but he is not in Lou's plans.

no shot thge rags are locked up in cap space why would they spend money now rather then save and wait to try and make a trade at the deadline

Forsberg would be a great addition for a one-year deal.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=216122&hubname=nhl

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isnt anybody concerned about forsberg being out half the year if we signed him, or playing at 75% at best?

thats why i dont want him

I'd like to see Lou go for Trevor Linden.

I'd like to see Lou go for Trevor Linden.

is he a ufa?

isnt anybody concerned about forsberg being out half the year if we signed him, or playing at 75% at best?

thats why i dont want him

And he would only make you cup contender. Who would want that? That's insane! :sarcasm:

And he would only make you cup contender. Who would want that? That's insane! :sarcasm:

if he played at 100% and didnt have that injury which he said was not going to go away then absolutley i would love to get him. unfortunatley thats not the case

And he would only make you cup contender. Who would want that? That's insane! :sarcasm:

Like how he made Philly a Cup contender?

I'd like to see Lou go for Trevor Linden.

Another 4th liner... why?

Another 4th liner... why?

he could play on 3rd line rw, i think it would be a nice fit

Another 4th liner... why?

Why not?!?! He'd be the best 4th liner we would have....and a great leader in the dressing room.

Like how he made Philly a Cup contender?

I thought we were talking about New Jersey... Well, if you think like that, ok. ;)

I'd like to see Lou go for Trevor Linden.

completely burnt out and useless.

completely burnt out and useless.

25 points a season for a 4th liner and played great in the playoffs...oh sorry you didn't see that series.

I'd like to see Lou go for Trevor Linden.

that would be great but we really have to many third/fourth liners....

Would I like to see a package of some go, maybe if st louis is still interested in Cam + Madden and young prospect for some an upgrade is the only way I see Lou signing anyone else this summer.

Why not?!?! He'd be the best 4th liner we would have....and a great leader in the dressing room.

At this point in his career he's a lesser version of what Asham will bring to the table. The roster size is only 23... no more room for redundant signings.

completely burnt out and useless.

leadership we havent seen since Stevens left, trust me I follow Van. pretty close as they are the team I chose to follow in the west, plus Trevor brought so many intangible things even when he came to a HORRIBLE islander team in his short stay there as well. He is Lou's type of player to the Tee.

But the problem is we have too many of the same kinda of player. We are taking this line-up(whatever) form of combo with our jam of 3rd/4th liners to the rock just as it is today.

is he a ufa?

Yep

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=216122&hubname=nhl

legit source

According to the New York Post, talks between Peca and the Rangers are set to resume as early as Wednesday.

That said. He certainly looks like he's signing with the Rangers, who will likely get a LTI exemption for Kasparaitis.

At this point in his career he's a lesser version of what Asham will bring to the table. The roster size is only 23... no more room for redundant signings.

i wouldnt say it would be a redundant signing, he would ahve a much different role than asham, i think he would be great on the 3rd line

Another Moginly?

And he would only make you cup contender. Who would want that? That's insane! :sarcasm:

I agree, for the right price he's well worth the risk. Forsberg when playing healthy can be a major difference maker on a team without a legit #1 center. If he gets hurt, Zubrus can then step in.

I agree, for the right price he's well worth the risk. Forsberg when playing healthy can be a major difference maker on a team without a legit #1 center. If he gets hurt, Zubrus can then step in.

i wouldnt say it would be a redundant signing, he would ahve a much different role than asham, i think he would be great on the 3rd line

It is a redundant signing. We already have Clarkson, Asham, Viuhkola, Brylin, Rupp, Pelley, and Janssen competing for 4 of the 6 bottom six spots. Linden isn't very good at this point and isn't worth going after.

And what's the problem if Forsberg gets hurt? We simply place him on LTI and get the cap space back if we need it.

So? For the 60 games he plays he'll be the #1 center we need. It's not like we're trading anyone for him, so if he gets hurt, we simply would have the forwards we have now.

I agree, for the right price he's well worth the risk. Forsberg when playing healthy can be a major difference maker on a team without a legit #1 center. If he gets hurt, Zubrus can then step in.

I agree, for the right price he's well worth the risk. Forsberg when playing healthy can be a major difference maker on a team without a legit #1 center. If he gets hurt, Zubrus can then step in.

;)

It is a redundant signing. We already have Clarkson, Asham, Viuhkola, Brylin, Rupp, Pelley, and Janssen competing for 4 of the 6 bottom six spots. Linden isn't very good at this point and isn't worth going after.

And what's the problem if Forsberg gets hurt? We simply place him on LTI and get the cap space back if we need it.

well we know that brylin and asham will be there so really its just 2 spots

but im just saying if we signed linden its would fill that ? in the 3rd line, because right now noone is sure who is going to play there or do well there, linden has always been a good 2 way foward and i think would mesh nicely with pando and madden.

So? For the 60 games he plays he'll be the #1 center we need. It's not like we're trading anyone for him, so if he gets hurt, we simply would have the forwards we have now.

but unfortunatley we cant just throw a line together last minute and have everything work perfectly, they have to develop some chemsitry

but unfortunatley we cant just throw a line together last minute and have everything work perfectly, they have to develop some chemsitry

Not really the case. I'm sure Langenbrunner could slide back up with Parise and Zajac while Zubrus centers Elias and Gionta, all in a pinch.

On a one-year deal Forsberg is low risk and worth going after.

well we know that brylin and asham will be there so really its just 2 spots

but im just saying if we signed linden its would fill that ? in the 3rd line, because right now noone is sure who is going to play there or do well there, linden has always been a good 2 way foward and i think would mesh nicely with pando and madden.

There's no way Linden is deserving of the 18 minutes of ice time a night he'd get on Madden's line, especially at this point in his career. If Linden was still such a great player Vancouver would have re-upped him already.

How about this? If you're worried about third line right wing, sign Forsberg, move Zubrus to second line right wing, and bump Langs back down with Madden and Pandolfo. A much more efficient way of dealing with the problem. :)

There's no way Linden is deserving of the 18 minutes of ice time a night he'd get on Madden's line, especially at this point in his career. If Linden was still such a great player Vancouver would have re-upped him already.

How about this? If you're worried about third line right wing, sign Forsberg, move Zubrus to second line right wing, and bump Langs back down with Madden and Pandolfo. A much more efficient way of dealing with the problem. :)

id be ok with that actually, but the only thing im worried about is signing forsberg is if he gets hurt 2 weeks before the playoffs than we would have to put zubie on first line center and hope it works with him gio and elias

Not really the case. I'm sure Langenbrunner could slide back up with Parise and Zajac while Zubrus centers Elias and Gionta, all in a pinch.

On a one-year deal Forsberg is low risk and worth going after.

I don't see the problem either, the lineup with Forsberg injured would be exactly what we have now. If the choice is go with what we have now or having that line up with Forsberg playing even only a minimum of 30 games, i'll take the latter if the cap hit isn't too high.

That said. He certainly looks like he's signing with the Rangers, who will likely get a LTI exemption for Kasparaitis.

Why would they even bother with that? He's healthy, anyway. He will be in Hartford.

Why would they even bother with that? He's healthy, anyway. He will be in Hartford.

I had heard differently on radio today, they spent 5 minutes talking about how they were going to fit Peca under the cap using him as an LTI exemption. Glad to see hockey central keeps their data up to date.. :shakehead

I should know better than listen to a show that hired Nick Kypreos. In my defence I was stuck in traffic with nothing else to do :)

I had heard differently on radio today, they spent 5 minutes talking about how they were going to fit Peca under the cap using him as an LTI exemption. Glad to see hockey central keeps their data up to date.. :shakehead

I should know better than listen to a show that hired Nick Kypreos. In my defence I was stuck in traffic with nothing else to do :)

A hockey radio station isn't even up to date on the CBA after 2 full years with it already!? Sheesh!

What an awful program it must be, haha. Damn.

Yeah, Kaspar will be buried in the minors. Just like what you guys did with McGillis.

With Michael Peca and Peter Forsberg still out there, and the Devils "lacking offense" as so often stated, does anybody here think either of these two veterans have a place in NJ? Personally, I don't, but a fellow devils fan buddy of mine thinks that one of them could be the spark to get the forwards going. He felt pretty strongly, and he wasn't too many beers deep, so I thought I would throw this out here, and see what the rest of the board thought...
I know the cap would be a concern, but with Martin's contract unknown, nobody knows where NJ will be when the season does start...
Thanks for any input, I would love to have the support of the board, but would accept defeat if the majority think it could work.

Peca is washed up, and we already have a Better Checking Line center in Madden, As for Forsberg..Where would you fit him? Don't forget,your going to pay him 3,5-5millions...On the first line?Maybe..But, Zubrus got paid for playing like a TOP-6 Player, Not on the checking line.

Plus..Why would Lou offer Peter Forsberg a contract?Since 2001 his foot hurts him, and he has been injured for ever.And even if he feels that his foot is "Okay" now..I don't want to take a bet, Even if Peter is one of the best Playmakers in the NHL.(When healthy.)

Also..I don't like wasting money on Forsberg, when next year there'll way more good Free Agents than Forsberg atm.

Peca is washed up, and we already have a Better Checking Line center in Madden, As for Forsberg..Where would you fit him? Don't forget,your going to pay him 3,5-5millions...On the first line?Maybe..But, Zubrus got paid for playing like a TOP-6 Player, Not on the checking line.

Plus..Why would Lou offer Peter Forsberg a contract?Since 2001 his foot hurts him, and he has been injured ever.

Also..I don't like wasting money on Forsberg, when next year there'll way more good Free Agents than Forsberg atm.

langs would play 3rd line and zubie 2nd line

langs would play 3rd line and zubie 2nd line

Well, I don't want to see the PZL line breaking down, They have such a good chemistry, Also...Patience is always your friend..I would do that , and wait to get real Free Agents next year,(Better than Forsberg, But heck, We all know Lou won't sign a Patrick Marleau type of player..We can always hope.. ;) )

A hockey radio station isn't even up to date on the CBA after 2 full years with it already!? Sheesh!

What an awful program it must be, haha. Damn.

Yeah, Kaspar will be buried in the minors. Just like what you guys did with McGillis.

Yeah, it was pretty bad. I usually only listen to one show in the 4pm-7pm range, but I had to drive a couple of hours to a visit a client during lunch. So if his salary doesn't count, and your about .5M over the cap, does that put you at 3M under? Or were their numbers wrong too?

Forsberg here would be sweet, especially if we put Bergfors on the same line as him, the ForsbergFors connection.

Yeah, it was pretty bad. I usually only listen to one show in the 4pm-7pm range, but I had to drive a couple of hours to a visit a client during lunch. So if his salary doesn't count, and your about .5M over the cap, does that put you at 3M under? Or were their numbers wrong too?

We are at like 47M or something without his salary and Shanny's bonuses.

Like how he made Philly a Cup contender?

Forsberg limping around... on a foot he wasn't supposed to be skating on until January... when we traded him.... we hadn't won a game yet all season. just to put how much of a difference he made for us. wasn't his fault the supporting cast past Gagne wasn't much to write home about.

he cannot be relied upon, but when he's out there he remains a difference maker.

but unfortunatley we cant just throw a line together last minute and have everything work perfectly, they have to develop some chemsitry

Some one talking some sense. The first line is the one that needs the most chemistry. He is a great player but we play more as a system then for the individual. In the Devils style consistent chemistry is more important then having an insanely good #1 pivot part of the time.

no

No to Peca but Forsberg I would sign and not let him play a game until January. ;)

As for the consistent chemistry comment - bunch of bull - sorry. When they changed things up in the 2006 season - after the initial spark of elias coming back - they moved the lines around and became the hottest team in hockey for the last 2 months of the season. In 95 - Lemaire changed lines constantly. And in 2003, we lost our number one pivot going into the finals and Burns was changing the top lines around until he decided to stick Rupp there for the last few games. All worked out very well. This consistency garbage is just that - garbage. Injuries are going to occur and players are going to always have to be able to play with others. Plus everyone gets in a funk and change sometimes can spark someone.

I would just save my money and wait til the trade deadline and see whats out there.

I think the last thing we need is to sign another injured player we can't use.

I would just save my money and wait til the trade deadline and see whats out there.

I think the last thing we need is to sign another injured player we can't use.Wait until the trade deadline and give up Bergfors, Corrente, 1st etc, when we are already running low on prospects.
I would go after him now, only if it was a one year. I will for sure help the top line. Just move Zubs or Langs to the third line. Think about how much he would help the PP. We would be a much better team. If he gets injured. Who cares? We are still the same team we have now and he doesn't count towards the cap.

25 points a season for a 4th liner and played great in the playoffs...oh sorry you didn't see that series.

No I did tough guy, and I decided we don't need him. kthanksby.

Forsberg here would be sweet, especially if we put Bergfors on the same line as him, the ForsbergFors connection.

or the bergforsberg

Well, I don't want to see the PZL line breaking down, They have such a good chemistry, Also...Patience is always your friend..I would do that , and wait to get real Free Agents next year,(Better than Forsberg, But heck, We all know Lou won't sign a Patrick Marleau type of player..We can always hope.. ;) )

yea but then the zubrus signing wouldnt make any sense because we can get a guy half zubies price to play third line and be just as good

I would love to add Forsberg for whatever, a whole or half season.

Some one talking some sense. The first line is the one that needs the most chemistry. He is a great player but we play more as a system then for the individual. In the Devils style consistent chemistry is more important then having an insanely good #1 pivot part of the time.

Uh, it's pretty much a crapshoot, as far as line chemistry goes. Guys like Elias and Gomez never had chemistry, then they randomly did for a year. A line like Parise/Zajac/Langenbrunner didn't have to take any time to get going. If you don't want to add Forsberg because you're afraid it will screw up line chemistry you're crazy.

Forsberg doesn't play for himself, he is a team player.

yea but then the zubrus signing wouldnt make any sense because we can get a guy half zubies price to play third line and be just as good

Zubrus is versatile enough that he can play on a third line and contribute. He'll add a physical dimension and more offense to that line. Langenbrunner makes $2.8M to Zubrus' $3.4M, and there's no hollering about him playing there, so I don't see the big deal. Zubrus' versatility was one of the reasons Lou gave him six years.

Who wouldn't love to have forsberg, He's had prototypical devil written on him his whole career with the way he plays, but with his health and the signing of Martin, it is not probable.

it would be a gamble but if you can get him for a $2 mil base contract with incentives for games played or something it would be nice. (mind you he'd never go for it) otherwise it is tough to essentially throw 4-5 million out the window that we really do not have now....

Who wouldn't love to have forsberg, He's had prototypical devil written on him his whole career with the way he plays, but with his health and the signing of Martin, it is not probable.

it would be a gamble but if you can get him for a $2 mil base contract with incentives for games played or something it would be nice. (mind you he'd never go for it) otherwise it is tough to essentially throw 4-5 million out the window that we really do not have now....

I look at Forsberg as Scott Gomez on steroids and with better defensive sense.

yea but then the zubrus signing wouldnt make any sense because we can get a guy half zubies price to play third line and be just as good

Oh well....

Move Zubrus to the Third line, Clarkson to the 4rth line, And we can have 4 good lines that can roll up.(With Forsberg in.)

But I don't want Forsberg in..He's too much of a risk to take.(Depends the Deal..And the lenght of the contract he's given.) one year..I would be "ok" with that..2years++? No thanks.

My question is if he's so great why is he still out there?

My question is if he's so great why is he still out there?

Because his greatness comes to a screaching halt when one of the artificial pieces in his body needs superglue. It's really a shame.

My question is if he's so great why is he still out there?

That's Forsberg's doing, not NHL teams. The interest is there but Forsberg doesn't want to sign just yet.

I look at Forsberg as Scott Gomez on steroids and with better defensive sense.
Exactly, the only problem, steroids take a toll on th body. wait, who said that? I didnt hear anything....

My question is if he's so great why is he still out there?

Because his greatness comes to a screaching halt when one of the artificial pieces in his body needs superglue. It's really a shame.

He was not sure if he wanted to retire, and said he would come back with one of the teams he has played for, mostly Philly or Colorado. Totally is a shame. This guy is great and could have been better.

A bum ankle sucks. I say that as i am laid up with a walking boot on after fianlly getting a cast off my foot from breaking the Ankle. from Experience it is really uncomfortable, i can't imagine what it will fee like in a few weeks when i strap on the skates and take my first strike...I thinkn it will really hurt. which is basically what he has had to deal with the last few seasons. and a shoulder before i believe. (also an Injury i had, and equally uncomfortable)

I'd even take him at 80% health since he plays with 110% heart and a 90% forsberg is pretty damn good in my book.

i don't think the question is "should we"... but intsead "can we".... Don't forget that Forsberg has ALWAYS been a point per game player, even when he was injured...