NY Post: Yashin a possibility

GUNNER4505
07-10-2007, 05:30 PM
I think we should think about signing him.

Nobody is gonna wanna touch him with a 10 foot pole, he'll be motivated(especially staying in-division), and he should come dirt cheap.

If he regains any type of scoring form, it'd be a great signing.

What do you guys think??

Colin Whites Eye
07-10-2007, 05:31 PM
HELL no.

Darius Dangleaitis
07-10-2007, 05:33 PM
*vomit*

fortheloveof666
07-10-2007, 05:39 PM
*vomit*

+1

Devilsfanatic
07-10-2007, 05:41 PM
I'm all for it. People need to think outside the box and realize that he does kick ass when he wants.

Colin Whites Eye
07-10-2007, 05:47 PM
I'm all for it. People need to think outside the box and realize that he does kick ass when he wants.






too bad he only "wants to" about a quarter of the time....

Devilsfanatic
07-10-2007, 05:51 PM
too bad he only "wants to" about a quarter of the time....

and will still put up more points than most guys at that quarter of the time, time frame.

HBK27
07-10-2007, 05:53 PM
I think we should think about signing him.

Nobody is gonna wanna touch him with a 10 foot pole, he'll be motivated(especially staying in-division), and he should come dirt cheap.

If he regains any type of scoring form, it'd be a great signing.

What do you guys think??

I really don't think that he'll come dirt cheap. If a broken down Bertuzzi can still get $4M per year over two years, I think Yashin will get a contract in that range as well.

His biggest knocks are that he's not really a leader, not necessarily a good locker room guy and he takes games off. Not sure I really want a slacker on the team unless we have a coach like Burns that can kick him in the ass from time to time. Also doesn't fit the description of the type of player Lou would go after. Maybe in an environment where he's not looked at to be a leader or top offensive weapon he'll do better, but there's still the risk that he brings the team down with his lackluster play.

Unless he's really willing to sign cheap (maybe him & his girlfriend want to stay in NYC area) I say no...even then, I'd be a bit skeptical.

DEVILS ALL THE WAY
07-10-2007, 05:53 PM
WE NEED A PUCK MOVING D-MEN THAT WILL HELP OUR PP !!!!

I just don't think that spending more $$$ on another forward would be the best decision.

fortheloveof666
07-10-2007, 06:31 PM
I'm all for it. People need to think outside the box and realize that he does kick ass when he wants.

You've been smokin some green, haven't you Mr. Marley?

TaiMaiShu
07-10-2007, 06:32 PM
Kozlov v2.0? No thanks.

Richer's Ghost
07-10-2007, 08:24 PM
well that move would complete the trifecta of mediocre pickups... :(

Darius Dangleaitis
07-10-2007, 08:37 PM
Kozlov v2.0? No thanks.

Yup

mrthemike
07-10-2007, 08:49 PM
Ew please not Yashin.

JimEIV
07-10-2007, 08:55 PM
well that move would complete the trifecta of mediocre pickups... :(

Which two are you talking about as mediocre.....The Devils have already picked up 4 depth players (Weekes, Rachunek, Vishnevski, and Zubrus)

I persoanlly like the Size, Strength, and Depth added. We lost a lot of offense by loosing Gomez and Rafalski for sure....When has that ever been an issue in New Jersey though?

What we lost in offense I personally believe we've gained leaps and bounds in Size, Strength, and Depth.

You may think I am nutz.....But I think our Defense is better today than it was just 2 months ago......Rafalski is a wonderful player--BUT NO WAY should a player of his caliber be playing 25+ minutes a night...He can't handle big forwards and can be easily moved off the puck.

I'm not trying to justifing loosing him....But its a catch 22 for the Devils--- You keep him for 5 or so million and then you can't add the Depth that we need to supplement a player like Rafalski...You let him walk, and you can add the Depth to supplement him but he's gone....Welcome to the Cap World.

We literally added 4 Depth players with Size and Strength for LESS THAN the cost Gomez signed for and about the same amount as Rafalski signed for. I personally think that is a better position to be in than if we retained one or both of those players at or near their cost.

Cry_Wolf
07-10-2007, 09:07 PM
Kozlov v2.0? No thanks.

Pretty much my thoughts on this.

TZajac19
07-10-2007, 10:45 PM
WE NEED A PUCK MOVING D-MEN THAT WILL HELP OUR PP !!!!

I just don't think that spending more $$$ on another forward would be the best decision.



Agreed!!!! We needed one last year and we lost our only one and Gomez. Sign someone who can move the puck on the PP and has a good shot!!!

Colin Whites Eye
07-10-2007, 10:49 PM
yea, cuz those guys just grow on trees

Gunnar Stahl 30
07-10-2007, 10:55 PM
and will still put up more points than most guys at that quarter of the time, time frame.

maybe for the islanders

but i can just see him dragging ass back to the defensive end

plus we lke to dump and chase alot........that requires way to much effort for him

tony d
07-10-2007, 11:09 PM
Nope, can't see this one happening.

TZajac19
07-10-2007, 11:27 PM
yea, cuz those guys just grow on trees

I understand where you are coming from. I am not saying we are going to SIGN a top PP guy, their not out there, and anyone who has one knows and would want way to much for him. So make due with what is out there.

Brisbois- Good Passer- Ok Shot
Sopel- Great shot from the point
Markov- Not bad on the PP
Sutton- Good shot
Berard- Offensive Dman good shot good hands
Tanabe- young and shows signs of Offensive Potential

Any of them would work i think Berard, Markov and Sopel are the best there and i dont think that they will be to much money.

And there is Souray but i think he is out and i am fine with that. I wouldnt mind having him but i am not upset we didnt get him.

The Omen*
07-10-2007, 11:42 PM
I think we should think about signing him.

Nobody is gonna wanna touch him with a 10 foot pole, he'll be motivated(especially staying in-division), and he should come dirt cheap.

If he regains any type of scoring form, it'd be a great signing.

What do you guys think??

Russian for bum is Yashin

Drewr15
07-10-2007, 11:44 PM
Russian for bum is Yashin

well said. :handclap:

The Mad Crapper
07-11-2007, 12:26 AM
How about we resurrect Al Iafrate for our powerplay?

I know there are a lot of young'ns on this board, but those of you who remember him back in his prime would have to agree that he had one of the sickest PP shots you've ever seen!

What I would give to have a prototype of him on this team!!!

DaMick
07-11-2007, 12:35 AM
I think we should think about signing him.

No believe me......you shouldnt even look at him

Nobody is gonna wanna touch him with a 10 foot pole, he'll be motivated(especially staying in-division)
Wouldnt you wonder why noone wants him? If you have ever watched him ...
Youd realize hes not one of the most motivated players on the ice.

And he should come dirt cheap

:biglaugh: Says who? His agent has already stated that hes looking at 4million per.

If he regains any type of scoring form, it'd be a great signing.
Motivation is biggest weakness...if he is to remain in the NHL he needs a smaller role with alot less pressure.

You think Lou & Johnny Mac would like this guy?

Doubt it.


I can see him living off his Isles buyout cash in the RSL.

For some reason i can see Asham in a Devs uni before Yashin.

None Shall Pass
07-11-2007, 12:38 AM
My grandpa is old, lazy, and not too great at hockey. Maybe we should pick him up too? :sarcasm:

DevsOwnYou
07-11-2007, 12:48 AM
Heck no to Yashin. The guy has no heart and would be a distraction.
He would not fit in with the Devs philosophy.

PromNite
07-11-2007, 01:05 AM
Please sign Yashin.

If both the Rangers and Devils make the playoffs, we will automatically have a leg up on you if you have Yash.

Do it. :)

Tbg1515
07-11-2007, 01:32 AM
I beleive we will sign 1 more puck moving defenseman to play the 1st PP unit, and also score from the blue line.........BUt as far as that i believe we should go into the season with some flexibility so if we are in a good position at the trade deadline, Lou can actually see if he can get someone who can help bring the cup to the The Rock........

Our lineup will problably look like this

Parise-Zajac-Langenbrunner
Elias-Zubrus-Gionta
Pandolfo-Madden-Clarkson/Brylin
Brylin/Clarkson-Viouchola(sp.)-Rupp/Janssen/Pelley

Martin-Oduya/Offensive DMan
White-Greene
Rachunek-Visnevski/Oduya

Marty
Weekes

That to me is a solid line lineup who can score and play smart defensive hockey.

Gunnar Stahl 30
07-11-2007, 01:47 AM
My grandpa is old, lazy, and not too great at hockey. Maybe we should pick him up too? :sarcasm:

how much is he asking??

Gunnar Stahl 30
07-11-2007, 01:48 AM
I beleive we will sign 1 more puck moving defenseman to play the 1st PP unit, and also score from the blue line.........BUt as far as that i believe we should go into the season with some flexibility so if we are in a good position at the trade deadline, Lou can actually see if he can get someone who can help bring the cup to the The Rock........

Our lineup will problably look like this

Parise-Zajac-Langenbrunner
Elias-Zubrus-Gionta
Pandolfo-Madden-Clarkson/Brylin
Brylin/Clarkson-Viouchola(sp.)-Rupp/Janssen/Pelley

Martin-Oduya/Offensive DMan
White-Greene
Rachunek-Visnevski/Oduya

Marty
Weekes

That to me is a solid line lineup who can score and play smart defensive hockey.

how are you leaving out matvichuk??

BTW why is everybody making the parise-zajac-langenbrunner line our number one line?

YES, parise is the man , zajac looks promising, and langs can actually score, but noway is that line bettter than or going to score more than our REAL first liine of elias-zubrus-gionta

NaChOs
07-11-2007, 01:57 AM
is lou signs yashin i will cry till the season is over.

Darius Dangleaitis
07-11-2007, 02:00 AM
I highly doubt we're acquiring another forward...at least another notable forward anyway. Elias, Parise, Gionta, Zajac, Langenbrunner, and Zubrus looks to be our top six, which I can live with.

rwhite
07-11-2007, 04:00 AM
I don't know if I can. That top six doesn't exactly strike fear into other opponents.

Just look, for example, at two teams in our own division:

Penguins:

Crosby
Malkin
Staal
Sykora
Recchi
Roberts

Rangers:

Gomez
Drury
Jagr
Shannahan
Straka
Cullen

I'm very concerned about our forwards. Elias-Zubrus-Gionta is an OK first line but could never compete with the Alfredson-Spezza-Heatley line's of the NHL. I really like Parise-Zajac-Langenbrunner as a second line but if we have to rely on them for primary scoring, we're in trouble. Madden's 3rd line is one of the best checking lines in the NHL IMO, but again only if they are asked to do what they do best, shut down other teams top players, not try and score 20 goals each. Our 4th line is a joke, no matter which way you look at it. Clarkson to me, is the only one from Lowell I want on this team next year at the forward position and that's on the 4th line.

Devilsfanatic
07-11-2007, 09:14 AM
Now before we start with the "It's the post" posts, lets just take a minute to think that in this bizarro world summer Mark has called the Oduya debacle as well as the Rafalski situation including Brian taking off to Detroit. If he was as useless as everyone here thinks, Lou wouldn't be considering him.

boredmale
07-11-2007, 09:41 AM
I could see Yash giving a New York discount to play in New Jersey(his gf is from there).

nni
07-11-2007, 09:50 AM
we should give him 50,000 per goal like the islanders did.

Devilsfanatic
07-11-2007, 09:51 AM
Normally I wouldn't want to touch him, but I am very intrigued by Alexei and what he brings. I mean if it's cheap and he sucks, we can put him on waivers and at a non 10 million dollar price, he'd be picked up quite quickly I'm sure.

boredmale
07-11-2007, 09:58 AM
Normally I wouldn't want to touch him, but I am very intrigued by Alexei and what he brings. I mean if it's cheap and he sucks, we can put him on waivers and at a non 10 million dollar price, he'd be picked up quite quickly I'm sure.

I know alot of you guys compare him to Kozlov but he better then Kozlov in every possible way(besides shootouts). That being said i don't think he would fit into your system. If you didn't sign Zubris i would say he worth a shot, but since you did i don't see how he would fit ony your roster(although i could see Yashin performing well with Parise and Langenbrunner on his wings).

Devilsfanatic
07-11-2007, 10:13 AM
I know alot of you guys compare him to Kozlov but he better then Kozlov in every possible way(besides shootouts). That being said i don't think he would fit into your system. If you didn't sign Zubris i would say he worth a shot, but since you did i don't see how he would fit ony your roster(although i could see Yashin performing well with Parise and Langenbrunner on his wings).

I can see Yashin assuming a spot between Elias and Gionta with Langenbrunner sliding down to line 3 to give the team more depth. I also agree that he's 10 x's the player Kozlov is. I didn't Mogo would fit in our system either, but he did.

boredmale
07-11-2007, 10:22 AM
I can see Yashin assuming a spot between Elias and Gionta with Langenbrunner sliding down to line 3 to give the team more depth. I also agree that he's 10 x's the player Kozlov is. I didn't Mogo would fit in our system either, but he did.

Yashin needs to play with speedy wingers or guys who will go to the boards and do the dirty work. He basically is at his best when he is trailing on the play

Tbg1515
07-11-2007, 10:25 AM
I think its worth a gamble at the right deal, he could work well in this system......i could see him plugged into between gio ang the capt.


elias-yashin-gionta (Yashin could rejuvinate Gio & Elias into 30+ goal guys)
parise-zajac-langs (This could be one of the best lines in hockey)
pandolfo-madden-zubrus (Zubrus played well in the playoffs shutting down the top line of the Strangers, with Drury, in buffalo)
clarkson-rupp<->Brylin/Pelley Clarkson and rupp could feed off 1 another.)

Martin-Matty
Greene-White
VIshnevski-Rachunek-Oduya (A rotation of the 3 during the year)

Broduer
Weekes

Devilsfanatic
07-11-2007, 10:25 AM
Yashin needs to play with speedy wingers or guys who will go to the boards and do the dirty work. He basically is at his best when he is trailing on the play

Then a line with Gionta and Zubrus might be beneficial.

JRZ DVLS
07-11-2007, 10:26 AM
I know alot of you guys compare him to Kozlov but he better then Kozlov in every possible way(besides shootouts). That being said i don't think he would fit into your system. If you didn't sign Zubris i would say he worth a shot, but since you did i don't see how he would fit ony your roster(although i could see Yashin performing well with Parise and Langenbrunner on his wings).

If he were to play with Langs and Parise it would be tough for him to slack. When you see the work ethic those guys have you have to step up to their level or you will just be left hanging. But do not break up Parise/Travis/langs.

I think Yashin is a No go.

Brooklyndevil
07-11-2007, 10:31 AM
If Lou were to sign this guy, I would have to think it's time to replace Lou.

Devilsfanatic
07-11-2007, 10:33 AM
If Lou were to sign this guy, I would have to think it's time to replace Lou.

Again, within the box, no room for expansion not realizing pure talent in front of us. At the right price of course.

Trottier
07-11-2007, 10:49 AM
If Lou were to sign this guy, I would have to think it's time to replace Lou.

:biglaugh: :handclap:

So true!

When it comes to Yashin, the misinformation and misperceptions one reads everywhere on this board are an indictment of some people's NHL viewing habits.

Yashin the Dog is going to "rejuvenate" gamers like Elias and Gionta? Please!

"Pure talent"? Severely flawed and aging talent is more like it.

Lou has built a perennial contender by avoiding EXACTLY this type of player. That some NJD fans do not appreciate that point is unfortunate. Sign Yashin and you are like every other NHL team.

MoonDragn
07-11-2007, 10:50 AM
Do you have a link to this story? I have not seen this on any other news feeds.

Devilsfanatic
07-11-2007, 11:01 AM
Do you have a link to this story? I have not seen this on any other news feeds.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/07112007/sports/devils/devs_land_vitaly_piece__yashin_still_an_option_dev ils_mark_everson.htm

google is your friend

TB Sheets
07-11-2007, 11:28 AM
Signed to a $1-million 1-year contract with maybe another million in incentives and he'd be a steal.

The guy has skillz. His main problem is a lack of motivation and having to be THE star on a team. That role doesn't suit him. But being a cog in a wheel would work pretty well for him, I'd think.

However, taht being said, I also wouldn't have any qualms about passing on him, also.

åboriginal
07-11-2007, 11:31 AM
if yashin IS ever signed.....his contract had better be filled with performance bonuses. make that slug work for his money. if he doesnt, waive him. its a gamble either way. and he used to be so good too with ottawa. i dont think we need another forward at this point however.

Marty30
07-11-2007, 11:40 AM
I would MUCH rather get asham than yashin. Hell, i would rather bring tommy albelin out of retirement to play forward then have yashin play.

NJDevilsFan21
07-11-2007, 11:42 AM
If we got him at something like 2 years at 1.5mil a year, then I would not mind.

Maybe the reason Yashin sucked so much was because he played for Islanders. He comes and plays for te Devils and has motivation to do well because he believes that the Devils can go all the way, unlike the Islanders.

Just my 2 cents.

Drewr15
07-11-2007, 11:51 AM
Here is the thing with Yashin, I have no doubt over 82 games he would chip in some goals and assists and make some good plays here and there. He has talent enough to get away with that. But when the postseason comes and you need to fight for every inch and be willing to pay the price to win, I don't see him doing a thing. He will not help us get beyond the 2nd round in the playoffs so to me he is not worth it.

None Shall Pass
07-11-2007, 12:27 PM
how much is he asking??

$40K a year plus medical benefits.

hightide85
07-11-2007, 12:36 PM
I'm a Ranger fan, but if I was a Devil fan, I'd personally call Lou and say HELL NO! Lou is no dummy, and I seriously doubt he'd sign that bum.

I mean when has Lou ever made a signing even remotely comparable? I don't think he ever has.

DANCIN'WITHJANSSEN
07-11-2007, 12:38 PM
I'd take him for about 1.5 mil and see what he could on the 3rd or 4th line. I mean the guy has tremendous talent...if only he could get motivated enough to use it.

devs4L
07-11-2007, 12:39 PM
If you just go off of sheer production, it's there. He never hit his 85+ pt plateau with the isles, but also had some injury shortened seasons. Even in those seasons he put up some good stats if you look. I always thought the biggest problem with Yashin was his salary. I have trouble believeing that if Yashin had a cap hit of 2.5-3mil the Isles would have still bought him out. He's also got some nice size at 6'3, and if signed for cheap could add some depth offensively.

As far as his lazyness/defensive short comings, on a team with Zajac, Langs, Madden, Pando, Brylin, Zubrus and every other forward MORE than capable of playing defensively, whats turning into a stifleing defense, and Marty in net, I think his flaws wouldn't be as glaring.

Am I pulling for Lou to sign Yashin? No. Would I be heartbroken if they were to sign Yashin? Nope. Ya gotta realize Lou knows what's best for this team far better than we do. If he thinks he'd fit, he'll sign him, if not, he won't. Either way, knowing Lou Lamoriello made the decision should at least ease our minds.

DevilDog
07-11-2007, 12:44 PM
Brylin-Yashin-Clarkson??

2 Russians and a young sparkplug. This would be a 4th line that could actually chip in some goals and eat up some ice time.

It would be nice to be able to roll 4 lines with some confidence.

MissionHockey
07-11-2007, 12:50 PM
If you just go off of sheer production, it's there. He never hit his 85+ pt plateau with the isles, but also had some injury shortened seasons. Even in those seasons he put up some good stats if you look. I always thought the biggest problem with Yashin was his salary. I have trouble believeing that if Yashin had a cap hit of 2.5-3mil the Isles would have still bought him out. He's also got some nice size at 6'3, and if signed for cheap could add some depth offensively.

As far as his lazyness/defensive short comings, on a team with Zajac, Langs, Madden, Pando, Brylin, Zubrus and every other forward MORE than capable of playing defensively, whats turning into a stifleing defense, and Marty in net, I think his flaws wouldn't be as glaring.

Am I pulling for Lou to sign Yashin? No. Would I be heartbroken if they were to sign Yashin? Nope. Ya gotta realize Lou knows what's best for this team far better than we do. If he thinks he'd fit, he'll sign him, if not, he won't. Either way, knowing Lou Lamoriello made the decision should at least ease our minds.

I agree, but at this point I'd rather give Zubrus a shot rather than sign another expensive forward. You guys have to realize, he will not come as cheap as you think. I heard rumblings on this board that he's looking for 4million a year. That money would be better spent on Markov than Yashin.

Voice of Reason
07-11-2007, 01:05 PM
I agree, but at this point I'd rather give Zubrus a shot rather than sign another expensive forward. You guys have to realize, he will not come as cheap as you think. I heard rumblings on this board that he's looking for 4million a year. That money would be better spent on Markov than Yashin.

Agreed.
The only way I'd even consider Yashin is if all of our D options (Souray and Markov) are signed elsewhere.

Gunnar Stahl 30
07-11-2007, 01:54 PM
$40K a year plus medical benefits.

done, CLOSE THE THREAD, we found our new 4th line center. we'll sign him long term....lock him up

Tao Jones
07-11-2007, 01:57 PM
Are we missing the Gomez attitude and work ethic already?

Richer's Ghost
07-11-2007, 02:07 PM
From Captain to 4th line center.... NICE. That will get the most production out of him EVER! LOL.... :sarcasm:

Devilsfanatic
07-11-2007, 02:07 PM
''We are still talking to some teams. So far the offers we have received we are not happy with,'' Gandler said in an interview with CKNW Radio in Vancouver. ''If we are not going to get what we are looking for than he (Yashin) will definitely go to Russia.''


http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=213273&hubname=

Nevermind, he'll be looking for 4. **** em, I don't want to pay him that.

HBK27
07-11-2007, 02:35 PM
''We are still talking to some teams. So far the offers we have received we are not happy with,'' Gandler said in an interview with CKNW Radio in Vancouver. ''If we are not going to get what we are looking for than he (Yashin) will definitely go to Russia.''


http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=213273&hubname=

Nevermind, he'll be looking for 4. **** em, I don't want to pay him that.

Personally, I think Yashin’s agent is bluffing on the Russia option. I don’t follow Yashin’s personal life that closely, but he seems to be in a pretty serious relationship with Carol Alt and I doubt she wants to go to Russia with him. Furthermore, the guy is already more than set with money, so I don’t know why he’d be so concerned with getting the maximum amount possible. If a broken down Bertuzzi can get $4M a year, I think some team out there would be willing to at least go $3M+ for Yashin, which should be close enough to keep him in the states or Canada.

Would seem to me though that the better option for him would be to sign a one-year deal with a team that can provide a better environment for him and help boost his value for a long-term deal next offseason. The Devils seem like a team that can provide that opportunity – it’s a veteran team with a winning environment where he wouldn’t be looked upon to provide leadership. He also wouldn’t necessarily be looked upon to be the top point producer here like he was on the Island – I’m sure the expectations would be greater for Elias, Gionta and Parise. The pressure would also likely be less than if he were going to a big market team, and I think the ability to remain in the NY area might be attractive to him. I’d like to see Lou sign him to a one-year deal in the $3M range…$4M is too much though.

Randal Graves
07-11-2007, 02:47 PM
For the love of God, Buddha, Allah and the FSM no.. Yashin is the poster boy for spoiled athletes in the NHL.
I would rather put Rupp on the first line, at least you know he'll try and be grateful for the opportunity.

MissionHockey
07-11-2007, 03:22 PM
''We are still talking to some teams. So far the offers we have received we are not happy with,'' Gandler said in an interview with CKNW Radio in Vancouver. ''If we are not going to get what we are looking for than he (Yashin) will definitely go to Russia.''


http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=213273&hubname=

Nevermind, he'll be looking for 4. **** em, I don't want to pay him that.

Despite all the attitude problems, he's still a 60-65 point center. Did you really think he was going to get 1million a year?

Elias to Parise
07-11-2007, 04:09 PM
no.

forceten
07-11-2007, 04:12 PM
Yeah, I expected him to go a lot cheaper because he's making money from his old contract from NYI. If I'm a team, and considering him, I'd definitely factor that in.

Classic Devil
07-11-2007, 04:14 PM
He's going to Russia. No one is going to give him the money he wants.

bense27
07-11-2007, 04:17 PM
Despite all the attitude problems, he's still a 60-65 point center. Did you really think he was going to get 1million a year?

Yeah he had 50 points in 58 games last season.

Guttersnipe
07-11-2007, 04:39 PM
http://www.nypost.com/seven/07112007/sports/devils/devs_land_vitaly_piece__yashin_still_an_option_dev ils_mark_everson.htm

google is your friend

Everson writes:


Trying to cook up a Cup contender from free agency's leftovers, with defenseman Vitaly Vishnevski the latest ingredient, a discounted gamble on Alexei Yashin reads like the sort of project the desperate Devils might consider.

Just by reading this first sentence, it's clear that Everson is merely speculating that if Lou is looking for bargain talent he might consider Yashin. Everson never claims in any point of the article that he's heard rumors about Lou showing even the slightest interest in pursuing Yashin.

Everson also writes:

With Islanders money already assured, Yashin might be signed at a steep discount by a cost-conscious team needing a top offensive center.

A statement completely debunked by the comments made by Yashin's agent in the TSN.ca article.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=213273&hubname=

HBK27
07-11-2007, 04:53 PM
Everson writes:



Just by reading this first sentence, it's clear that Everson is merely speculating that if Lou is looking for bargain talent he might consider Yashin. Everson never claims in any point of the article that he's heard rumors about Lou showing even the slightest interest in pursuing Yashin.

Everson also writes:



A statement completely debunked by the comments made by Yashin's agent in the TSN.ca article.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=213273&hubname=

Nice investigative work!

Oh yeah, and (N)Everson is a tool.

Devilsfanatic
07-11-2007, 05:24 PM
Everson writes:



Just by reading this first sentence, it's clear that Everson is merely speculating that if Lou is looking for bargain talent he might consider Yashin. Everson never claims in any point of the article that he's heard rumors about Lou showing even the slightest interest in pursuing Yashin.

Everson also writes:



A statement completely debunked by the comments made by Yashin's agent in the TSN.ca article.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=213273&hubname=

What you forgot to mention is that when Lou was asked about it he wasn't saying anything. They're not done apparently.

None Shall Pass
07-11-2007, 05:55 PM
What you forgot to mention is that when Lou was asked about it he wasn't saying anything. They're not done apparently.

He wasn't saying anything about Souray either, if memory serves correctly. :(

Kulaa
07-11-2007, 08:58 PM
Finally I'm registered! (first post)

While our top line would look amazing on paper with Yashin centering it, realistically, it would be a terrible signing.

It would stunt the growth of Zajac and Parise and it would nullify the Zubrus signing. Yashin wants a real contract for his market value despite earning 2mil for the next 8 years from the dumblanders. So he'd have to center the top line or he'll pout and move to Russia and force us to buy him out.
That means Zubrus either centers the 2nd line or plays winger on the 3rd line. Now it would be quite a waste to have signed Zubrus long term and then throw him on the shutdown line. We've trained our AHLers for years on how to check, so why sign Zubrus to do something Clarkson can do. That means Zubrus would end up on the second line.
So Zajac goes to the 4th line, which is just flat out stupid. He's going to be even better this season, and the Zazachenbrunner line will also be even better exponentially.

Plus it makes Brylin useless as well, he's still an amazing team player and I'd take him over Yashin any day. Plus how many times have you seen him get completely demolished by a hit and he just shakes it off like a prize fighter.

So ya, Yashin isn't going to be a Devil, this topic can be put to rest now :)

Central Jersey Devil
07-11-2007, 09:02 PM
I just hope to God that we don't go into the season with this team in its present state...I'm sorry but Greene cannot make up for the loss of Rafalski, not yet anyway.

Right now we will have even less offense than last year, EVEN if we got a more offense-minded coach.

Tao Jones
07-11-2007, 09:14 PM
the Zazachenbrunner line :)
I like it, although it may be too many syllables for some.

Well thought out first post.

TZajac19
07-11-2007, 09:35 PM
Finally I'm registered! (first post)

While our top line would look amazing on paper with Yashin centering it, realistically, it would be a terrible signing.

It would stunt the growth of Zajac and Parise and it would nullify the Zubrus signing. Yashin wants a real contract for his market value despite earning 2mil for the next 8 years from the dumblanders. So he'd have to center the top line or he'll pout and move to Russia and force us to buy him out.
That means Zubrus either centers the 2nd line or plays winger on the 3rd line. Now it would be quite a waste to have signed Zubrus long term and then throw him on the shutdown line. We've trained our AHLers for years on how to check, so why sign Zubrus to do something Clarkson can do. That means Zubrus would end up on the second line.
So Zajac goes to the 4th line, which is just flat out stupid. He's going to be even better this season, and the Zazachenbrunner line will also be even better exponentially.

Plus it makes Brylin useless as well, he's still an amazing team player and I'd take him over Yashin any day. Plus how many times have you seen him get completely demolished by a hit and he just shakes it off like a prize fighter.

So ya, Yashin isn't going to be a Devil, this topic can be put to rest now :)

No i think this is wrong. Zubrus said he is more of a wing if we sign Yashin (wish i dont want) Zubrus would simply move to the wing of the Parise and Zajac line and Jamie would move back to the check line with Maddog and Pando. Brylin would move to the 4th line which is where he should be at the start of the season even without Yashin.

Cup 2010 Sens Rule
07-11-2007, 11:38 PM
If we got him at something like 2 years at 1.5mil a year, then I would not mind.

Maybe the reason Yashin sucked so much was because he played for Islanders. He comes and plays for te Devils and has motivation to do well because he believes that the Devils can go all the way, unlike the Islanders.

Just my 2 cents.

Yeah becuase on the Senators when he WAS the star and the team had a ton of talent and the chance to contend for a Cup he was ALWAYS so motivated in the playoffs.

Central Jersey Devil
07-11-2007, 11:56 PM
Forget it, Yashin is a POS and so is his agent Mark the Mishandler Gandler.

Blackjack
07-12-2007, 12:06 AM
Take Yashin at 3, even 4 per. He's as good as Gomez (who, everyone seems to forget, was frequently criticized for exactly the same reasons Yashin was). His stats bear that out, and he never had as much talent as Gomez to play with.

Gomez - .82 ppg career
Yashin - .92 ppg career

Why is Gomez better? Is he better defensively? No. Is he better in the playoffs? Not until last season. Plus, Yashin wouldn't have as much pressure in NJ.

People seem to forget that Gomez used to have brutal slumps. Both him and Patrik are very streaky players. You tolerate their inconsistency because when they are on their games they are world beaters.

MoonDragn
07-12-2007, 09:44 AM
if we do manage to get this guy for cheap, think of the depth we could have. We can roll out 3 lines that can score and still have our PP line. I'd go with :

Elias - Yashin - Gionta
Parise - Zajac - Langenbrunner
Pandolfo-Madden-Brylin
Clarkson - Zubrus- Rupp

Give lines 1,2, and 4 equal ice time and we're golden.

Kulaa
07-12-2007, 01:05 PM
We wouldn't have cap room to resign Parise and Martin, nor any room to manuever a trade at the deadline if we were to sign Yashin for what he's commanding. It's not going to happen.

I'd rather we keep the team as is + sign our RFAs. See how it goes through Xmas, and then Lou will decide if we need a veteran forward or defenseman.

Signing to the cap this early in the season is an error Lou already made with Malakhov, Mogilny, and McGinnis.

Pantokrator
07-12-2007, 01:11 PM
I would love for the Devils to get yashin, I think he would end up fitting in great. Get him cheap, and I think he will end up surprising the league. Eswpecially if Sutter comes.

bense27
07-12-2007, 01:34 PM
if we do manage to get this guy for cheap, think of the depth we could have. We can roll out 3 lines that can score and still have our PP line. I'd go with :

Elias - Yashin - Gionta
Parise - Zajac - Langenbrunner
Pandolfo-Madden-Brylin
Clarkson - Zubrus- Rupp

Give lines 1,2, and 4 equal ice time and we're golden.

Switch Zubrus and Brylin.

ALine9900
07-12-2007, 01:55 PM
That's a pretty sick lineup, but I really don't want this guy around the kids

Central Jersey Devil
07-12-2007, 02:10 PM
Yashin and his ugly turtlenecks need to stay the hell out of NJ. And Zubrus should be at LEAST put on the second line, anything less would be a waste.