Richer's Ghost 07-09-2007, 05:54 PM WOW... new guy get's a 2 year contract and they name him captain? And I thought Yashin was a bad egg to be wearing the C... I guess this let's them name a new captain in 2 years when he goes somewhere else. How many teams has he played for now? 6?
bense27 07-09-2007, 05:57 PM Do we really need a new thread for everything another team does? Why can't we just talk about it in the main forum.
britdevil 07-09-2007, 05:58 PM that is ridiculous, the isles are gonna suck, lol
but look hwats happening in philly,
the same situation, who will be there captain? conisdering they have signed like 3 from other teams.....
free agent signing is the best worst thing in the world.
TheDevilMadeMe 07-09-2007, 05:59 PM Isles sure like making selfish overpriced players their leaders.
MattNJD 07-09-2007, 05:59 PM WOW... new guy get's a 2 year contract and they name him captain? And I thought Yashin was a bad egg to be wearing the C... I guess this let's them name a new captain in 2 years when he goes somewhere else. How many teams has he played for now? 6?
Seems like a logical choice to me. The islanders lost half of there team to free agency... who were they gonna choose? Freddy Meyer??
Richer's Ghost 07-09-2007, 06:02 PM I would name a home-grown or at least a long term contract person as C before I would Guerin. When's the last time he gave anyone a full season of production or didn't leave for free agency?
and for the 'main forum' post - since they are in our division and he's a former devil - i thought a conversation amongst devils fans made sense and not to pull in all the isles/blues/sharks/bruins/etc/etc/etc/ fans....
Lou's Koolaid 07-09-2007, 06:03 PM Seems like a logical choice to me. The islanders lost half of there team to free agency... who were they gonna choose? Freddy Meyer??I would have went with Sillinger.
Classic Devil 07-09-2007, 06:03 PM I would have went with Sillinger.
Sillinger was the obvious choice. I don't understand why they didn't pick him.
Groin Of Bates 07-09-2007, 06:07 PM Id say it belonged to Sillinger or Witt, both were very deserving of the C. I dont really agree with Guerin as C either.
Muttley 07-09-2007, 06:19 PM How many teams has he played for now? 6?
Yep. This is now #6.
Id say it belonged to Sillinger or Witt, both were very deserving of the C. I dont really agree with Guerin as C either.
If Brendan Witt were with us, not only would he be our captain, but he would be the closest thing to having Scott Stevens back. I relish the thought.
Feed Me A Stray Cat 07-09-2007, 06:47 PM If Brendan Witt were with us, not only would he be our captain, but he would be the closest thing to having Scott Stevens back. I relish the thought.
Uh, what? We're talking about a career #4 defenseman as the closest thing to having Scott Stevens back?
Pariseisgod* 07-09-2007, 06:53 PM seems ridic. to name him captain already
NYR94 07-09-2007, 07:17 PM How many teams has he played for now? 6?
Well he's played for six so the Isles are his seventh.
1 Devils
2 Oilers
3 Bruins
4 Stars
5 Blues
6 Sharks
7 Islanders
Isles4ever11 07-09-2007, 07:46 PM that is ridiculous, the isles are gonna suck, lol
but look hwats happening in philly,
the same situation, who will be there captain? conisdering they have signed like 3 from other teams.....
free agent signing is the best worst thing in the world.
If the defense is upgraded, the Islanders will be about the same as they were last year.
Hard working team that fights for one of the end playoff spots.
TaiMaiShu 07-09-2007, 07:51 PM Yep. This is now #6.
If Brendan Witt were with us, not only would he be our captain, but he would be the closest thing to having Scott Stevens back. I relish the thought.
Witt is just like White but he takes more penalties.
Muttley 07-09-2007, 07:51 PM Uh, what? We're talking about a career #4 defenseman as the closest thing to having Scott Stevens back?
Career #4 defenseman? That's a bit of a stretch. Of course he's not Scott Stevens and you know that.
You obviously haven't followed his career and seen him play on a consistent basis and if you say have, you'd be lying. :sarcasm:
Witt is just like White but he takes more penalties.
His penalties are not high for a physical, hitting defenseman. White is not a physical, hitting defenseman. He's physical, but hits rarerly.
IslesFTW 07-09-2007, 07:57 PM It should have been Witt. He basically carried the defense once Martinek was injured, is a leader in the locker room, and just is what a captain should be. I was also a bit shocked with the decision, but what can you do about it?
PromNite 07-09-2007, 08:26 PM Sillinger was the obvious choice. I don't understand why they didn't pick him.
I was thinking Trent Hunter.
Feed Me A Stray Cat 07-09-2007, 08:31 PM Career #4 defenseman? That's a bit of a stretch. Of course he's not Scott Stevens and you know that.
You obviously haven't followed his career and seen him play on a consistent basis and if you say have, you'd be lying. :sarcasm:
His penalties are not high for a physical, hitting defenseman. White is not a physical, hitting defenseman. He's physical, but hits rarerly.
I've followed his career closely, and before last season, he was considered nothing more than a physical #4 defenseman. On any halfway decent team, he would have come nowhere near the top pairing.
And White does not hit rarely.
Headline: "Isles name Guerin captain"
In a related story, the Isles also failed to qualify for the 2007-2008 playoffs.
Richer's Ghost 07-09-2007, 10:00 PM Headline: "Isles name Guerin captain"
In a related story, the Isles also failed to qualify for the 2007-2008 playoffs.
:biglaugh: :naughty: :toothless:rolly: :snide: :propeller:hyper: :joker: :o:lol: :tvhappy:
dkball7 07-09-2007, 10:01 PM I would have went with Sillinger.
Me too. Him and Dipi are the main reasons they made the playoffs last year.
HBK27 07-09-2007, 10:52 PM I still don't get why they felt the need to name a captain now...why not wait until you fill out the roster and the guys all meet each other at training camp? And why go with a guy that has always followed the money? If he gets a better offer two years from now he's gone.
Muttley 07-09-2007, 11:41 PM And White does not hit rarely.
You're right because he almost never hits anyone.
TB Sheets 07-10-2007, 11:16 AM I would have went with Sillinger.
So you would have went with a guy who hasn't played more than two seasons in a row for any team since 1997? And while criticizing Guerin (not you, but others) for having played on seven teams while Sillinger's played for 12 (6 in the last 7 years)?
I like the choice of Guerin. He's a good, experienced player who has won a Cup and has gained a reputation as a leader over the last few years.
JerryGigantic 07-10-2007, 02:29 PM So you would have went with a guy who hasn't played more than two seasons in a row for any team since 1997? And while criticizing Guerin (not you, but others) for having played on seven teams while Sillinger's played for 12 (6 in the last 7 years)?
I like the choice of Guerin. He's a good, experienced player who has won a Cup and has gained a reputation as a leader over the last few years.
And it looks highly likely he will be their statistical leader on offense next season, and as a result a fan favorite.
Feed Me A Stray Cat 07-10-2007, 02:34 PM You're right because he almost never hits anyone.
As much as I don't want to use the "hits" stat to prove my point, White was ranked 25th in the NHL in hits. Now, while RTSS stats are subjective, and vary from arena to arena, it gives a general idea of how physical a certain player is. To assert that White almost never hits anyone is ridiculous.
Lunatik 07-10-2007, 02:36 PM that is ridiculous, the isles are gonna suck, lol
but look hwats happening in philly,
the same situation, who will be there captain? conisdering they have signed like 3 from other teams.....
free agent signing is the best worst thing in the world.in philly i think Hatcher could end up with the "C"
boredmale 07-10-2007, 02:44 PM i would have went with players vote in september personally.
That being said the Islanders are in need of any publicity/visibility possible. Guerin's worth to the Islanders is more then most teams because his is a somewhat "big name player". One possible positive having him captain is he might feel some responsibility to try harder.
Richer's Ghost 07-10-2007, 03:09 PM i would have went with players vote in september personally.
That being said the Islanders are in need of any publicity/visibility possible. Guerin's worth to the Islanders is more then most teams because his is a somewhat "big name player". One possible positive having him captain is he might feel some responsibility to try harder.
If that's the case, Snow isn't as smart as I thought he was... you can't 'trick' a player into getting motivated... they either ARE or ARE NOT. In fact, the burden of the C can crush motivation more often than create it. Leaders are not made- they are born. In my estimation, Guerin is not a leader... at most an alternate that could excel in certain situations.
The guy is brand new to the team, signed to a short contract, and has not demonstrated anything to me in his 'chase the high $ contract' actions of the past that indicates his character will evolve into a leader at this stop. I could be wrong, but I feel pretty safe in saying 2 years from now he's not wearing a C and he's not in NY.
boredmale 07-11-2007, 04:25 AM If that's the case, Snow isn't as smart as I thought he was... you can't 'trick' a player into getting motivated... they either ARE or ARE NOT. In fact, the burden of the C can crush motivation more often than create it. Leaders are not made- they are born. In my estimation, Guerin is not a leader... at most an alternate that could excel in certain situations.
The guy is brand new to the team, signed to a short contract, and has not demonstrated anything to me in his 'chase the high $ contract' actions of the past that indicates his character will evolve into a leader at this stop. I could be wrong, but I feel pretty safe in saying 2 years from now he's not wearing a C and he's not in NY.
I think he was named Captain because of the publicity thing personally. The Islanders are just looking for a face to promote and it makes it seem more glamorous if he has a letter on his shirt. I personally feel somebody being named captain is over rated. Leaders will lead without a letter put on their sweater.
As much as i think Sillinger(or Witt) should have got it, fact is neither of them have been with the team for such a long period of time that you feel like they got robbed of being captain.
DaMick 07-11-2007, 07:14 AM I think he was named Captain because of the publicity thing personally. The Islanders are just looking for a face to promote and it makes it seem more glamorous if he has a letter on his shirt. .
i totally agree, the same when we got Peca .
i persoanlly would have given it to Witt
Randal Graves 07-11-2007, 02:59 PM The Isles are nuts, but in an entertaining, fun to watch good way. Who would have thought that things could weirder after Millbury was fired. And since I love this pic sooo much.. I have to post it again:
http://www.cantstopthebleeding.com/img/wang0720.jpg
Muttley 07-11-2007, 11:08 PM As much as I don't want to use the "hits" stat to prove my point, White was ranked 25th in the NHL in hits. Now, while RTSS stats are subjective, and vary from arena to arena, it gives a general idea of how physical a certain player is. To assert that White almost never hits anyone is ridiculous.
O.K. fine. Colin White is known by Devils fans for his big-hitting style of play.. :shakehead
IslesFanatic 07-11-2007, 11:18 PM The Isles are nuts, but in an entertaining, fun to watch good way. Who would have thought that things could weirder after Millbury was fired. And since I love this pic sooo much.. I have to post it again:
http://www.cantstopthebleeding.com/img/wang0720.jpg
:biglaugh::biglaugh:
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