2007 NHL draft

With the season over, lets focus on the upcoming draft. The Ducks own the 16th pick in this draft via the Shane O'brien trade. Discuss.

For the MOD mock draft, I selected Brett Maclean from the Oshawa Generals.

With the season over, lets focus on the upcoming draft. The Ducks own the 16th pick in this draft via the Shane O'brien trade. Discuss.

For the MOD mock draft, I selected Brett Maclean from the Oshawa Generals.

who cares about the draft?

you guys just wont he cup, take a week off bro

jerky is just trying to do the right thing, but seriously, i'm more interested in if selanne retires and giguere resigns!

Come monday i'm sure the ducks staff will start on this.

I'm looking forward to it anyway, I enjoy the awesome present and dream of an even better future :D

I heard good things about Nick Petrecky, he sounds like a burkish player and we also need another good defensive prospect.

I'm looking forward to it anyway, I enjoy the awesome present and dream of an even better future :D

I heard good thing about Nick Petrecky, he sounds like a burkish player and we also need another good defensive prospect.

That's the guy I was eyeing too. Great size and mobility and had an awesome workout apparently.

Brandon Sutter???

All I know is we better make it a good one, because we won't have a pick the next year.

All I know is we better make it a good one, because we won't have a pick the next year.

Kent Huskins for a 1st at the trade deadline next year :D

Kent Huskins for a 1st at the trade deadline next year :D

Hey, after the Cup our player' stock has raised dramatically: Dipenta didn't look too shabby during the Finals, I think he worth at least a first rounder now.











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who cares about the draft?

you guys just wont he cup, take a week off bro

lol...there is no rest in Anaheim. I bought my THN draft preview last week but haven't read it with the playoffs taking precedent. However, there are people who take the draft very seriously.

I want to know. That's why I'm here, because I expect knowledgable, unbiased, reasonable predictions on who they'll pick and what kind of players they'll become.

I wont be surprised if we reach and take Gillies at 16. He shouldnt go there, but I wouldnt be shocked.

I like Thomas Hickey - smooth skating offensive dman, reminds of John-Michael Liles of the Avs.

If the Ducks plan to go with a forward, I think that Sutter is a good fit. The Ducks like big forwards who can bring it in both ends and he fits the description. Couture would also be a good fit but I can't see him falling that far, as can be said for Billy Sweatt. However, looking at their prospects and young players, the biggest need right now would be defencemen. I see them taking a good puck mover such as Tommy Cross, Jon Blum or Thomas Hickey. The Ducks can afford to draft a project; they are in no need of an NHL ready prospect from this years draft.

We need a center. Marchant's injury problems this year illustrated how thin we are up the middle beyond our top 4 pivots. Shannon and Brent I feel are too little to and/or not strong enough to hold down a permanent spot as a center on this team. Carter showed some promise in the playoffs but I'd feel a lot better if we took the best center available in two weeks. I'm talking a true center as well; someone who has good size, can win face-offs and is reponsible defensively. Oh and who can score, obviously. Basically another Getzlaf-type would be nice. Don't have my draft guide in front of me so I don't really know who would fit the bill.

But than the little So Cal sentimental part of me really wants Burkey and staff to take Jonathan Blum. I mean, not only is he a So Cal kid but an OC kid to boot. I know he's a bit on the leaner side and we don't really need a d-man but I'd love to see this kid in the fold. Plus it'd be pretty cool to have three of the Vancouver Giants Memorial Cup winning d-men on our squad. Burkey likes winners and that could play into it. Whatever, I'm looking forward to a first-rounder in the middle of the round.

I need to read up on these prospects. I usually have a much better idea of what type of players the top ranked prosects are but I've been so distracted this season (for good reason of course).

The only bold prediction I will make for the 1st round pick is that Burke will not be drafting a European. :D

Also, not that I think Burke will take him (I really don't know), but I'm really curious to see where Angelo Esposito is drafted. He's fallen so much in the rankings this past year. About a year and a half or 2 ago, he was expected to be the sure #1 pick and now he doesn't even show up in the top 10. He already has decent size (6'1 180), though I don't know how he uses it, and seems like a high risk/high reward type player. Those who have watched him though, say he has dropped due to selfish and lazy play but perhaps, he was simply overhyped to begin with and can still be a decent player?

Can any of you guys that have followed the prospects more in depth see Burke taking a chance on him if he is still available?

We need a center. I'm talking a true center as well; someone who has good size, can win face-offs and is reponsible defensively. Oh and who can score, obviously. Basically another Getzlaf-type would be nice.

I agree with the draft a center idea, but speed and skill should be the focus. A player that can replace McDonald in 3-5 years if needed.

I need to read up on these prospects. I usually have a much better idea of what type of players the top ranked prosects are but I've been so distracted this season (for good reason of course).

The only bold prediction I will make for the 1st round pick is that Burke will not be drafting a European. :D

Also, not that I think Burke will take him (I really don't know), but I'm really curious to see where Angelo Esposito is drafted. He's fallen so much in the rankings this past year. About a year and a half or 2 ago, he was expected to be the sure #1 pick and now he doesn't even show up in the top 10. He already has decent size (6'1 180), though I don't know how he uses it, and seems like a high risk/high reward type player. Those who have watched him though, say he has dropped due to selfish and lazy play but perhaps, he was simply overhyped to begin with and can still be a decent player?

Can any of you guys that have followed the prospects more in depth see Burke taking a chance on him if he is still available?


If Angelo Esposito truly has dropped ". . . due to selfish and lazy play", there is little danger Bryan Burke will draft him in the 6th-round, let alone the 1st-round. Those characteristics are the antithesis of a Burke-type player.

I want Zack Hamill badly. He's the prototypical Ducks prospect: skilled, but a bad skater right now. Well, he's actually smallish, but, that won't be a problem. Or, I want Jon Blum. Picking a Cali native, that would be pretty unreal, and, a very talented defenseman at that.

In rt's mock draft, I got both. :)

But than the little So Cal sentimental part of me really wants Burkey and staff to take Jonathan Blum. I mean, not only is he a So Cal kid but an OC kid to boot. I know he's a bit on the leaner side and we don't really need a d-man but I'd love to see this kid in the fold. Plus it'd be pretty cool to have three of the Vancouver Giants Memorial Cup winning d-men on our squad. Burkey likes winners and that could play into it. Whatever, I'm looking forward to a first-rounder in the middle of the round.


I read (forget where now) that Blum is actually a Kings fan, but I don't think he'd mind being a Duck now. Plus I think the article said his twin sister in a Ducks fan.

I like Lars Eller from what I have read and he may be available where we pick but it seems like he's getting a lot of hype now. But it's hard to say if it's just hype on the internet or whether the scouts think the same. Plus, I don't know if Burke will pick a European first :)

I agree with the draft a center idea, but speed and skill should be the focus. A player that can replace McDonald in 3-5 years if needed.

I wouldn't say a center is the most important position to take with our first, but an offensive dman is needed with this draft, we could have both as TJ Brennan might be available in the 3rd where we have a high draft pick from Boston I believe. Both are needed as the norris defensemen and andymac are on board together for 2 more years (I'm saying all 3 will be on the same team minus a trade for the next 2 years). But I heard somewhere that the Ducks are looking to take a project pick this year, so anything could happen in this draft. Also a poster suggested another Getz, well good luck everyone would like to draft a Ryan Getzlaf in this draft and for us too come up with another franchise center in this draft I would say we have a deal with the devil.

my order of players I would like in the first round:

1. Zach Hamill
2. Colton Gillies
3. Nick Petrecki
4. Alex Plante
5. Jonathon Blum

I would be happy with any of those 5 at 16.

I have a feeling Blum will drop to the second round. The kid is a buck 60. You better be impressed by his skill set to take him in the first round. Playing with Festerling and Mikkelsson, I'm sure the Ducks scouts have seen enough of him to make that determination.

I wont be surprised if we reach and take Gillies at 16. He shouldnt go there, but I wouldnt be shocked.

I agree, that guy is so Burke-type of player.

I think we will be looking for an offensive forward guys like Perron, Eller and Pacriotty could be around. Billy Sweatt fits our style and his offensive upside is being really underrated he's like a Kunitz he's fast he hits but has more natural offensive ability IMO. I don't think defense is a big area of concern, Mitera was excellent the last half of last year, Mikkelson was named to the memorial cup all star team. John DeGray did not have a bad year at all in the OHL, but maybe if a boom or bust like Petrecki is there we could take a D.

We need a center. Marchant's injury problems this year illustrated how thin we are up the middle beyond our top 4 pivots. Shannon and Brent I feel are too little to and/or not strong enough to hold down a permanent spot as a center on this team. Carter showed some promise in the playoffs but I'd feel a lot better if we took the best center available in two weeks. I'm talking a true center as well; someone who has good size, can win face-offs and is reponsible defensively. Oh and who can score, obviously. Basically another Getzlaf-type would be nice. Don't have my draft guide in front of me so I don't really know who would fit the bill.

But than the little So Cal sentimental part of me really wants Burkey and staff to take Jonathan Blum. I mean, not only is he a So Cal kid but an OC kid to boot. I know he's a bit on the leaner side and we don't really need a d-man but I'd love to see this kid in the fold. Plus it'd be pretty cool to have three of the Vancouver Giants Memorial Cup winning d-men on our squad. Burkey likes winners and that could play into it. Whatever, I'm looking forward to a first-rounder in the middle of the round.
A little OT but I think Bobby Ryan has the tools to be a center but I have no clue if that will be explored.

I wouldn't mind having Gillies or Hamill. Gillies is more physical and could be a good power foward. Hamill is a more offensive oriented player, but his skating skill reminds me of Bobby Ryan.

I am actually interested in Logan Couture, he seems like to be a Briere type of player, although not physical he could develope into a good speedy center. Plus he was coached by Brian Kilrea.

I wouldn't mind having Gillies or Hamill. Gillies is more physical and could be a good power foward. Hamill is a more offensive oriented player, but his skating skill reminds me of Bobby Ryan.

I am actually interested in Logan Couture, he seems like to be a Briere type of player, although not physical he could develope into a good speedy center. Plus he was coached by Brian Kilrea.

I like Couture too, but he is no Briere at all imo. Briere is a smallish playmaker with sick hands and finish. Couture is a relatively big, two-way center who does a bit of everything. I think a better comparison would be Marleau or Rolston, with a chance to be a guy like Brind'amour if the intangibles and two way game develop.

For those of you who have not yet seen it yet, the 2007 Media Draft Guide (224 pages) has been posted. I found last year's very helpful in getting a gist of what each prospect brings to the table, though it seemed that last year's also gave more in depth scouting reports. Some of their "personal profiles" are pretty fun to read too.

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=387233

I like Couture too, but he is no Briere at all imo. Briere is a smallish playmaker with sick hands and finish. Couture is a relatively big, two-way center who does a bit of everything. I think a better comparison would be Marleau or Rolston, with a chance to be a guy like Brind'amour if the intangibles and two way game develop.

I can see Couture being a Marleau type of player too, but he definitely has a love for Briere and wants to be like him. He is a big Buffalo fan and is always talking about Briere/Drury.

keep in mind, the Ducks would need a center prospect ready to step in nowish or a year's time or so, whereas you can't expect a newly drafted player to really make an impact for another three years.
The Ducks (and most teams) will undoubtably draft the player they think is the best at the time of their pick, regardless of position. Worry about organizational depth after the fact, when you have players who you know what to expect from and what they project to be. You never want to be the guy who leaves a top pairing defender on the table, because you didn't see a need for a defenseman at the time.

keep in mind, the Ducks would need a center prospect ready to step in nowish or a year's time or so, whereas you can't expect a newly drafted player to really make an impact for another three years.

I'm missing something, why would the center need to be NHL ready? We have three signed through 08/09 and Getzlaf isn't going any where.

Having a guy that could get onto the roster in 09/10 would be nice though.

I don't see the need for a center either. Getz, Andymac and God are the top three for the next few years. Best to draft the BPA.

IMO, AndyMac will leave after the next 2 years, which means Getzy will step into that #1 Center role which he is already in. We pretty much have 2 #1 centers. Therefore we'll need a #2 center...HOWEVER, Burke does take the BPA AND he has said he is going to take a player with less skill and more grit. THEREFORE I bet his "mock draft"/rankings look like this:
1) James Van Riemsdyk
2) Kyle Turris
3) Pat Kane
4) Jakub Voracek
5) Sam Gagner
6) Karl Alzner
7) Keaton Ellerby
8) Logan Couture
9) Zach Hamill
10) Ryan McDonagh
11) Billy Sweatt
12) Max Pacioretty
13) Nick Petrecki
14) David Perron
15) Brandon Sutter
16) Colton Gillies
17) Oscar Moller
And so on and so forth.

IMO, AndyMac will leave after the next 2 years, which means Getzy will step into that #1 Center role which he is already in. We pretty much have 2 #1 centers. Therefore we'll need a #2 center...HOWEVER, Burke does take the BPA AND he has said he is going to take a player with less skill and more grit. THEREFORE I bet his "mock draft"/rankings look like this:
1) James Van Riemsdyk
2) Kyle Turris
3) Pat Kane
4) Jakub Voracek
5) Sam Gagner
6) Karl Alzner
7) Keaton Ellerby
8) Logan Couture
9) Zach Hamill
10) Ryan McDonagh
11) Billy Sweatt
12) Max Pacioretty
13) Nick Petrecki
14) David Perron
15) Brandon Sutter
16) Colton Gillies
17) Oscar Moller
And so on and so forth.

If Espo is available Burke will take him.

If Espo is available Burke will take him.

I don't think Esposito has the characteristics that Anaheim looks for in a player.

I don't think Esposito has the characteristics that Anaheim looks for in a player.

Watching video of him, he kinda reminds me of Fedorov. Scary.

Watching video of him, he kinda reminds me of Fedorov. Scary.
so is that a good thing or a bad thing..?? ;)

Ok, so I've been researching the top incoming draftees and I'm really liking what I'm reading about Max Pacioretty (Rally Killer already mentioned him). People who have watched him say that he is the closest thing to a true power forward in the draft, has an incredible work ethic, and will be a force in the NHL. I saw several Rick Nash comparisons as well.

Report from Draft Media Guide:
MAX PACIORETTY
Sioux City • USHL
6'2", 203 lbs. Left wing, shoots left
Born: November 20, 1988 in New Canaan, Connecticut
Final Ranking: 16 • Mid-Term Ranking: 23 • North American Skater

Central Scouting Report: A competitive power forward with a good physical presence… has a very good wrist shot with a quick release… is a good skater with excellent first step quickness… strong in the face-off circle and does what it takes to help his team win… needs to improve his consistency around the net…effective on the penalty kill, but needs to improve his defensive anticipation.

Hockey Profile: Selected to the 2007 USHL Prospects/All-Star game… will attend University of Michigan in 2007… played his first season in the USHL in 2006-07, recording 21 goals, 42 assists in 60 games played… prior to the USHL, played for The Taft School in Watertown Connecticut.

Personal Profile: Nickname is Patch or Patches because of his last name…models his game after his favorite player New York Rangers’ forward Jed Ortmeyer “because he does all the little things right in both ends of the ice”…taking an ice bath on game day is one of his superstitions… outside of sports he admires his parents the most “for working hard everyday to give me the opportunity that I have today”… credits Taft School head coach Daniel Murphy for having the most influence on his career “because he helped me mature as a player and as a person”… the 1994 Stanley Cup Final between the Canucks and the Rangers are the most memorable hockey games he has watched “because the Rangers have not won since then”… most memorable hockey game played: first USHL game “because it was a rough welcoming”… if he could have dinner with any three people he would invite: New York Giants tight end Jeremy Shockey, basketball
great Michael Jordan and former Rangers’ great Mark Messier “because I
would want to see all of their different opinions on how to handle different situations as an athlete”… favorites include: New York Rangers (NHL team), “quick five hole shot” (shootout move), The Chappelle Show (TV), Dave Chappelle (comedian), Tommy Boy (movie), Halo (video game) and O.A.R (band).

Statistics
Season Team League GP G A PTS PIM
2006-07 Sioux City USHL 60 21 42 63 119



Also, Rally Killer, I agree your assessment of Billy Sweatt.
Report from Draft Media Guide:
BILL SWEATT
Colorado College • WCHA
6'0", 180 lbs. Left wing, shoots left
Born: Sept 28, 1988 in Elburn, Illinois
Final Ranking: 27 • Mid-Term Ranking: N/R • North American Skater

Central Scouting Report: A skilled forward with the ability to make plays…is a great skater and creates a lot of chances with his speed… is a hard worker and very determined each shift… has good puck handling skills and good anticipation…needs to get stronger and needs to improve his ability to fight through checks.

Hockey Profile: In his first year with Colorado College led his team in freshman scoring with 26 points (9-17-26) in 30 games in 2006-07… was named the Top Forward at the IIHF Under-18 World Championship in Sweden where he helped the U.S. win gold… was named the WCHA Rookie of the Week (Mar. 4, 2007) after totaling four points (1-3-4) in two games including the game-winning goal against Denver on Mar. 2, 2007… played for the Under-18 National Development Training Program posting 55 points (29-26-55) in 59 games helping his team win their second consecutive North America Hockey League division title in 2005-06… played with his older brother Lee, a senior defenseman at Colorado college this year… was also a member of the U.S. National Inline team that won gold at the 2006 World Championships.

Personal Profile: Nickname is Sweatty… wears jersey #21 because his favorite player is Nashville’s Peter Forsberg… patterns his game after San Jose Shark Patrick Marleau “because he is fast and sees the ice well”… his pre-game ritual includes stick-handling a ball for at least half an hour… most memorable hockey game played: winning the Under-18 World Championship game… most memorable hockey game watched: 1996 Stanley Cup victory by his favorite team the Colorado Avalanche… “fake the shot, pull to backhand and then shove it five hole” is his favorite move in a shootout… credits his parents for having the most influence on his career because they instilled the value of hard work in him… admires his dad “because he came from nothing and now leads a pretty wealthy life”… if he could have anyone for dinner he would invite:Wayne Gretzky – “he is the greatest player ever", Tiger Woods – “he overcame so much” and Derek Lee – “he is my favorite baseball player”… favorites include: MLB The Show (video game), Eminem (rap artist), Will Ferrell (actor), The Departed (movie) and The Family Guy (TV show), Peter Forsberg (NHL player).

Statistics:
Season Team League GP G A PTS PIM
2006-07 Colorado College WCHA 30 9 17 26 18

Guys want a skilled forward...take Perron.

A hard working skilled forward...is very smart defensively with his tenacious forechecking....his quick stick often catches defenders by surprise...makes great passes....body checking aint that great and effective...plays with a lot of energy..which causes him to slow down at the end of each shifts.

Want a 2-way forward....take Backlund.

He possesses that innate ability to find seams in the defensive zone and capitalize on the opportunities that he garners from that trait. His competitiveness and his strong leadership are other traits that we love. He can score important goals to lift his team. He drives the net hard with the puck and is able to beat D with quick moves.

Want an offensive defenceman...take Ryan McDonagh.

An offensive defenceman with skills to make good rushes with the puck...has a good first step quickness and makes quick brakeout passes from his zone..a good shot from the point...is strong on the boards...his offensive style sometimes leads into risky decisions. Has the ability to dominate games, he just needs to use it every night.

Want a defensive defenceman....take Nick Petrecki.

A stay-at-home defenceman with good speed and laterall quickness. Has a strong physical presence on the ice and has the ability to make bone crushing hits. Makes hard accurate passes. Needs to improve his discipline as he is a hot head.



:p:Just keep your hands of Kevin Shattenkirk...:sarcasm::naughty::sarcasm:
The Flames want him. :)

I want to know. That's why I'm here, because I expect knowledgable, unbiased, reasonable predictions on who they'll pick and what kind of players they'll become.

Are you sure you're in the right place?

Oh yeah. My suggestion.... draft a big Canadian kid.

Oh yeah. My suggestion.... draft a big Canadian kid.
You mean Mikhnov isn't the next Mario and Parise isn't better?

Does anyone know what draft picks we have and where they came from, as well as where ours went? Did our 2nd go to Edmonton(Pronger) or Vancouver(Carlyle)? And our 3rd went to Tampa right?

I thought Carlyle was for a third, but wasn't that last year? The second went for Pronger.

I don't think Esposito has the characteristics that Anaheim looks for in a player.

That doesnt mean he wont be the best player available...if he booms then he will also have some good trade value for a player that better fits the system.

I thought I read that we had to give an extra pick for getting so far or something. Maybe the pick we had from Vish? And which 2nd did we trade for Parros? Our 6th went away for Jackman too. Man we've been flipping picks like an IHOP chef.

I realize he is not ranked to go in the first round but what do you guys think of Akim Aliu? His skill set is very much a Burke type player, He is apparently a ticking time bomb and that is why he has dropped so low in the rankings, however, Getzlaf was said to have a bad attitude and the Ducks staff worked through that very quickly. I think he could be molded into a poor mans Iginla if given the right staff.

Bill Sweatt is very underrated. Sometimes people mistake good two way players for not having much offensive upside but in this draft if you end up with a good second liner/great third liner you did ok for yourself. He just reminds me alot of Kunitz of the last two seasons but with more natural skill.

I remember the 2003 draft when everyone thought we'd take a defensemen with the first pick. Alot of people had us pegged to take Mark Stuart and instead we took Getzlaf. So basically what i'm saying is if a there is a highly rated defensemen on the board that falls the Ducks may very well take him but I would put my money on a forward, hopefully one of Sweatt, Pacriotty or Perron assuming there aren't any Blake Wheelers early..

I would be surprised to see the Ducks draft Perron. I think there will be better players still on the board at 16th.

I guess "best player available" means different things to different people. The way I read it (and the way I base my opinion for things like the HF Staff mock draft and how I look at the draft with the Ducks) is as follows: there are certain attributes and qualities that the team has consistently looked for in players for the past five years or so. Certainly this team identity has come full force since the hiring of Burke, but the scouting staff has basically been operating the same way for the past five years. They like character players, leadership types, willing to get their nose dirty, prefer Canadians and failing that North Americans usually from the OHL, the NCAA and the WHL in that order, the type of players who put it all on the line. They don't mind concerns with skating, as has been shown, that can be taught. The same goes for defensive play, although the downgrade in defensive zone coverage better mean an upgrade in overall talent. They're willing to take a gamble on players with health concerns. Two-way players are something that really catches the eyes in charge, show-casing versatility, which is always useful.

That's basically what I see as the blueprint of the majority of Anaheim's prospects, both those drafted and signed by the organization. With that said, I do believe there are some players that, although they are talented and could turn into strong players in their own right, do not fit the type of player that the Ducks consistently seem to be looking for. I think that if given a choice between a player with a lot of flash and sizzle, but maybe not the guts and drive that Anaheim prefers and a different player who might not be as talented, but shows up to play every day, nine times out of ten, the Ducks would lean towards the second guy. Of course there are always exceptions and maybe this year the Ducks will pick Esposito if he falls that far, or grab Lars Eller or whomever else, but it's a blueprint, not a definite plan. It is probably the best guess anyone has, save sitting at the table or having inside information.

No NHL team drafts by position. That's what I was trying to get at earlier when I discussed centres. Anaheim won't pick a centre simply because they think they need one in three years. Who's to say what they'll need in three years. Three years ago, the Ducks centres were Fedorov, Rucchin, McDonald, Pahlsson and Krog. In another three years time, it could be a whole different barrell. Maybe Brent or Carter will work out? Maybe there will be a big trade or a big free agent signing? The Ducks can't answer these questions by drafting to fill a position. What they will do is perhaps draft a centre if he fits what they are looking for and the scouts like him. Or maybe it will be a defenseman. Or maybe a left-winger.

It's like Kenny Rogers says "You never count your money when you're sitting at the table". You never count your prospects when you're at the draft. In three years time, Mikkelson could blow out his knee again, Mitera could bust and Niedermayer could head for early retirement, then the Ducks would be wishing they didn't pass up on a blueliner because they thought they needed a centre. The draft is a crapshoot, but by limiting the players they're choosing from other than just whether or not they'd fit into the team's plans, the team would be putting itself at a disadvantage.

Haha, centre. Crazy Canadian English.

That's what's funny about the NHL draft compared to the NBA or NFL. Those sports don't have a minor league system, and the players are older or able to come in and play almost immediately. In those leagues, you do draft for position because the player plays on your team the next season, or maybe the season after that.

But I never saw why you can't draft for position in the NHL as well. Yes you should take the best player, but how often is there clearly a better player? It's almost always that a few players are more or less equal. So then you can distinguish them by choosing the Canadian one (like we seem to do), the one who plays a position of need, or the one who chose to wear orange that day. As long as a position of need is in the group of equal value, why not pick him? And the further the draft goes, the larger the group of kids who are almost indistinguishable.

indistinguishable from an outside view

That's where the strength of the scouting staff really shows its worth. No two prospects are created equal. There's always one that the scouts will like better than another. Whether or not that decision is the right one shows how good the scouts are.

indistinguishable from an outside view

That's where the strength of the scouting staff really shows its worth. No two prospects are created equal. There's always one that the scouts will like better than another. Whether or not that decision is the right one shows how good the scouts are.

In a room full of scouts how often do they even agree on who is the BPA? You act like they have some kind of collective unified thought process. If you're talking about a top 5 pick its one thing, but at 16 or 17? The second round or even later? Come on.

Another thing, given the current economics with the cap and low free agency age I think its safe to say you will ALWAYS need another scoring line center in the pipeline.

According to Brian Burke, the 16th overall pick is being shopped.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=210515&hubname=nhl

Burke, meanwhile, has also informed his GM counterparts that Anaheim's first-round pick, 16th overall, in the June 22 draft is available. Anaheim acquired the pick from Tampa in the Shane O'Brien deal in February.

"We put our first-round pick in play to move up or move down - probably spoke with 18 teams," said Burke. "We'd consider any scenario."

indistinguishable from an outside view

That's where the strength of the scouting staff really shows its worth. No two prospects are created equal. There's always one that the scouts will like better than another. Whether or not that decision is the right one shows how good the scouts are.
Well one scout may say "Prospect A is better than B," but I doubt the whole staff will agree. So then you do a voting thing with points, and end up with a tier of similars, as different scouts see different players as better. Although sometimes it is obvious, like Crosby>Ryan, Johnson, Brule etc.

Interesting that Burke's shopping. But it sounds like he's shopping for another pick still, not like 1st round for Tverdovsky kind of thing. Would we be better off with more picks or a better pick? We don't have much top end talent, but more picks means more chances to hit it big, especially with a deep but unspectacular draft.

Every draft, Burke seems to be shopping our picks. The guy sure likes the limelight.

its because burke knows draft picks dont win championships. cmon, seriously did you guys think burke would actually use the pick in the draft?

He probably won't trade up; if he is trading it, than I am almost certain that it will be used to garner some more picks in the 2nd round.

Of-course, he can also use it to get some immediate help if he finds out Selanne, Jiggy, and/or S. Nieds are leaving the team.

In a room full of scouts how often do they even agree on who is the BPA? You act like they have some kind of collective unified thought process. If you're talking about a top 5 pick its one thing, but at 16 or 17? The second round or even later? Come on.

Another thing, given the current economics with the cap and low free agency age I think its safe to say you will ALWAYS need another scoring line center in the pipeline.

Most teams enter with a draft list that stretches at least to the end of the second round and a smaller range of players they want at their other picks, probably a selection of 4,5,6 different players for each pick. The actual draft list is different sizes for different teams, but the first 60 picks are a safe bet.

All the fighting and arguing about player A over player B is done well ahead of time from the draft (I would assume the last of it is probably going on now) and by the time they actually make it to the day, they've got a real good idea who they're taking at each pick. I believe Alain Chainey and David McNab really have the final say, although it is worth noting that this is the first time in five years that the Ducks are entering the draft without Chuck Fletcher's help.

Is there disagreement? I don't doubt it, but again it is all handled prior to the draft. Disagreement at the draft tables is rare. No team walks in with the attitude that they'll make their picks as they go, depending on who is available and so on. Each team has a very good idea of which player they want for each pick, going into the day.

Back to the original "draft by position" point, although position is no doubt considered in the big scheme of things, I continue to maintain that it is never the be-all-end-all. Teams will not draft a centre for the sake of drafting a centre. The draft is far too much of a crapshoot to leave preferred players behind.

Last night I had a dream we traded Bryz, our 16th and our 3rd rounder to Phoenix for their 3rd overall and picked James Van Riemsdyk. This would only happen if we got Jiggy signed.

Last night I had a dream we traded Bryz, our 16th and our 3rd rounder to Phoenix for their 3rd overall and picked James Van Riemsdyk. This would only happen if we got Jiggy signed.

I had that exact dream last night but I woke up before the pick. It was like, with the 3rd overall pick, the Anaheim ducks, select...then I woke up.

Weird.

You better have been high when having that dream cause we get 100% ripped off in that.

You better have been high when having that dream cause we get 100% ripped off in that.

How? Bryz has one year left until he's UFA, and hasn't even established himself as a starter yet. So, for him, we get to upgrade for second liner/2nd-4th defenseman to a potential franchise forward.

We do not get ripped off in that deal in any way.

Does anyone know where there is a list of all of the picks for the Ducks in this Draft. I have no idea where we are picking(or with whose picks) in any round but the first.

Does anyone know where there is a list of all of the picks for the Ducks in this Draft. I have no idea where we are picking(or with whose picks) in any round but the first.

http://jasonsdailysblog.blogspot.com/2007/06/2007-nhl-draft-order.html

http://jasonsdailysblog.blogspot.com/2007/06/2007-nhl-draft-order.html

Man, we don't have many pix. And I think we better get used to that for a coupla years. And why not swap 5th rounders this year with Philly? We have the last pick in the fifth round, Philly has the 1st pick. Can't do much better than that.

Man, we don't have many pix. And I think we better get used to that for a coupla years. And why not swap 5th rounders this year with Philly? We have the last pick in the fifth round, Philly has the 1st pick. Can't do much better than that.

We've got 4 4th rounders (the 1st, 2nd, 7th, and last)! :yo::handclap:






:sarcasm:

Really though, if they continue to be contenders for a couple more years, I have no problem getting used to it.

We could continue signing college players that don't make it to the draft (Penner and McDonald). Thank God for good college scouts.

We could continue signing college players that don't make it to the draft (Penner and McDonald). Thank God for good college scouts.

You mean David McNab. The man is an effing genius when it comes to over looked college talent.

How? Bryz has one year left until he's UFA, and hasn't even established himself as a starter yet. So, for him, we get to upgrade for second liner/2nd-4th defenseman to a potential franchise forward.

We do not get ripped off in that deal in any way.

Ok a couple of things
1) On the trade market Bryz is looked at as a decent starter with the potential to become great
2) Bryz will most likely resign with any team that is willing to start him which will be the case with the Yotes
3) We need 2nd line players not franchise players, although franchise players wouldn't hurt.
4) That 3rd rounder could be a 2nd-3rd line player.
5) Van Riemsdyk will be at max as good as Bobby Ryan might be, which isn't a franchise player. He will max out at good 1st line player and could drop to great 2nd line player.

Ok a couple of things
1) On the trade market Bryz is looked at as a decent starter with the potential to become great
2) Bryz will most likely resign with any team that is willing to start him which will be the case with the Yotes
3) We need 2nd line players not franchise players, although franchise players wouldn't hurt.
4) That 3rd rounder could be a 2nd-3rd line player.
5) Van Riemsdyk will be at max as good as Bobby Ryan might be, which isn't a franchise player. He will max out at good 1st line player and could drop to great 2nd line player.

1) I would disagree, as he hasn't proven to be consistent enough to hold a starting job. Not in the NHL and even struggling at times in the AHL. At best, he's viewed as a 1B tandem guy with the potential to be a decent starter.
2) One of the things I like about Bryz is his competitiveness. That said, if he's stuck in a tandem job, I would fully expect him to test the market in search of a starter's position.
3) Again, with the draft, you're looking for needs down the road. No one can predict what this team will look like in three years.
4) There is a much much much more likely chance a first rounder will see the NHL compared to a third rounder. That's just seeing the NHL, not even going as far as saying what they will or will not be able to contribute. A first round pick is much closer to returning value (ie actually having a player lace up the skates for your team) then a third round pick.
5) I'll give you that, but also will again hammer home the idea that the first rounder is worth so much more than the third rounder. There's a reason why first round kids are drafted where they are. Sure players slip through and there are steals in the later rounds, but that's the exception, not the rule.

How? Bryz has one year left until he's UFA, and hasn't even established himself as a starter yet. So, for him, we get to upgrade for second liner/2nd-4th defenseman to a potential franchise forward.

We do not get ripped off in that deal in any way.
Meh, I'm not convinced that's worth it. With reports that this year's draft isn't so hot at top, I just don't know that it's worth the cost to upgrade to 3. It sounds like there's a better chance someone at 16 will be a first line player than someone at 3 will be a franchise player. As Bryz alone is likely worth a 2nd round pick, we might be better off just shipping him off for that.

In one of the mock drafts,I traded Bryz and the 16th to La for the 4th and 56th.What do you think about this trade?Although I know,that this won't happen in reality,I would be absolutley happy.
In addition,I traded Marchant for th 23rd pick.But i will probably move this pick for another solid young defender.

Who would you draft with this 4th pick?

I know it's off topic,but I would like some backfeed.thanks.

Wow, those are some steals.

Anyway, I'd definetely go with Alzner with the 4th, unless one of the big three fall. I think we could really use another decent defenseman, and he's the best of this draft. Or, Sam Gagner wouldn't hurt, either.

23rd, I would try and get Blum. He'd be a steal at that point. Or maybe someone like Gilles or Sutter if they fall.

Wow, those are some steals.

Anyway, I'd definetely go with Alzner with the 4th, unless one of the big three fall. I think we could really use another decent defenseman, and he's the best of this draft. Or, Sam Gagner wouldn't hurt, either.

23rd, I would try and get Blum. He'd be a steal at that point. Or maybe someone like Gilles or Sutter if they fall.

Gillies will go in the 2nd round.

Wow, those are some steals.

Anyway, I'd definetely go with Alzner with the 4th, unless one of the big three fall. I think we could really use another decent defenseman, and he's the best of this draft. Or, Sam Gagner wouldn't hurt, either.

23rd, I would try and get Blum. He'd be a steal at that point. Or maybe someone like Gilles or Sutter if they fall.

Thanks four your feedback.

Who are the big three for you?I ecpect JVR and Voracek at 4 and I would realy like to get one of them,as i don't see any high end talent next to ryan in our offensive prospect pool.
At this point I'm looking to trade the 23rd for a young talented defender which should improve our blueline and who will be there for many years.But let's wait and see.But if I still have the pick,I will probably go with BPA.

Gillies will go in the 2nd round.

I have my doubts. Gilles is going to be one of the better checkers out there some day, and, especially after seeing the dominance of our third line, I see him being a valued commodity.

Thanks four your feedback.

Who are the big three for you?I ecpect JVR and Voracek at 4 and I would realy like to get one of them,as i don't see any high end talent next to ryan in our offensive prospect pool.
At this point I'm looking to trade the 23rd for a young talented defender which should improve our blueline and who will be there for many years.But let's wait and see.But if I still have the pick,I will probably go with BPA.

Turris, JVR and Kane, probably in that order. I actually think they'll go in that order as well. I think the Kings should take Alzner but something tells me Lombardi will take a forward.

I don't want Burke to trade Bryz for a high pick because I don't know if any of those guys will end of being real impact platers. I'd rather Burkie deal Bryz for a top-4 d-man of a team that desperately needs a goalie.

I only saw Gillies once live last year on the road vs. the Giants. I thought he was the best player on the ice most of the game and was shocked when he scored and it was announced that was his first goal of the year.

Turris, JVR and Kane, probably in that order. I actually think they'll go in that order as well. I think the Kings should take Alzner but something tells me Lombardi will take a forward.

I don't want Burke to trade Bryz for a high pick because I don't know if any of those guys will end of being real impact platers. I'd rather Burkie deal Bryz for a top-4 d-man of a team that desperately needs a goalie.

With the quantities of netminders on the market, it would be hard to get a top 4 Dman for Bryz. Nonetheless, I think we need to trade Bryz for some value if Jiggy does re-sign. You got to give him a chance to prove himself as a #1 and it won't be with Anaheim as long as Jiggy is here. I'm fine with Hiller as our backup. Lets package Bryz and the 16th for a top pick.

1) I would disagree, as he hasn't proven to be consistent enough to hold a starting job. Not in the NHL and even struggling at times in the AHL. At best, he's viewed as a 1B tandem guy with the potential to be a decent starter.
2) One of the things I like about Bryz is his competitiveness. That said, if he's stuck in a tandem job, I would fully expect him to test the market in search of a starter's position.
3) Again, with the draft, you're looking for needs down the road. No one can predict what this team will look like in three years.
4) There is a much much much more likely chance a first rounder will see the NHL compared to a third rounder. That's just seeing the NHL, not even going as far as saying what they will or will not be able to contribute. A first round pick is much closer to returning value (ie actually having a player lace up the skates for your team) then a third round pick.
5) I'll give you that, but also will again hammer home the idea that the first rounder is worth so much more than the third rounder. There's a reason why first round kids are drafted where they are. Sure players slip through and there are steals in the later rounds, but that's the exception, not the rule.

1) We'll have to agree to disagree here. Look at who is on the trade market. None of them are sure-fire starters. You could say Manny Fernandez is, but I've never thought of him as talented enough and he's backed up Roloson before. Toskala is pretty much the same as Bryzgalov except he was actually playing half the games at one point in the season and wasn't doing well with the workload. Bryz on the other handled sparing use as well as Toskala handled his heavy use.
2) Right but no team will be using him in a tandem....you look at Phoenix: he would be the starter...you look at Tampa Bay: that's more complicated because they will have already traded one of their goalies if they're looking at Bryz....Toronto: would be the starter there too.
3) Agree
4) Agree
5) Agree
I think Bryz would be equivalent to a top 10 pick in this years draft+16th alone should get the 3rd overall. That wouldn't be a bad deal, but then I would be looking for one of Turris, Kane, Van Riemsdyk or Cherepanov(NO!) lol.

Here are all of our draft selections: From this thread:

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?p=9544613#post9544613

1st Round

16. Anaheim (from T.B.)

3rd Round

62. Philadelphia (optional to NYI/ANA) Read conditions for 62 and 63

63. Phoenix (optional to NYI/ANA) Read conditions for 62 and 63

91. Anaheim (optional to COL/T.B.)

4th Round

92. Anaheim (from PHI)

93. Anaheim (from PHX)

98. Anaheim (from CBJ)

121. Anaheim

5th Round

122. Philadelphia See Conditions

151. Anaheim

7th Round

211. Anaheim (optional to CBJ)

Conditions

Picks 62 and 63 - Philadelphia will transfer a 3rd-round pick in 2007 (its own, pick 62, or Phoenix’s, pick 63) to NY Islanders, at NY Islanders’ option. Phoenix will transfer a 3rd-round pick in 2007 (its own, pick 63, or Philadelphia's, pick 62) or its 3rd-round pick in 2008 to Anaheim, at Anaheim's option.

Picks 75 and 91 - Anaheim will transfer a 3rd-round pick in 2007 (its own, pick 91, or Colorado's, pick 75) to Tampa Bay, at Tampa Bay's option.

Pick 122 - The Ducks can exchange their 5th-round pick with Philidelphia's as part of the Fedoruk trade.

Pick 211 - Anaheim will transfer to Columbus its 7th round pick in either the 2007 or 2008 Entry Draft, at Anaheim's option.

EDIT: We could have a third rounder from the Bruins as well. We got one from them in the Cheesy trade.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/hockey/nhl/2006-11-13-notebook_x.htm
The Ducks also acquired a third-round choice in either the 2007 or 2008 NHL entry draft from the Boston Bruins in exchange for left wing Stanislav Chistov.

Maybe the Bruins opted to give the Ducks the pick for the '08 draft? :dunno:

And Btw, I just found that that that Phoenix 4th rounder we got is from the Mike LeClerc trade. Man, that goes pretty far back.

Gillies wouldn't shock me, though i'm sure plenty of people on HFboards would say it's a bad pick which has been pretty standard for about 4 years now since i've been here. Gillies has traits that the Ducks appear to covet, players develop at different rates. At the same time I can see the Ducks trading down and getting some more picks.

EDIT: We could have a third rounder from the Bruins as well. We got one from them in the Cheesy trade.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/hockey/nhl/2006-11-13-notebook_x.htm


Maybe the Bruins opted to give the Ducks the pick for the '08 draft? :dunno:



Hmmm....

I'm guessing that Boston sent Anaheim the Phoenix 3rd round pick that they acquired in the Boynton/Mara deal. The conditions of the pick are exactly the same in the pick Phoenix sent Boston.

Hmmm....

I'm guessing that Boston sent Anaheim the Phoenix 3rd round pick that they acquired in the Boynton/Mara deal. The conditions of the pick are exactly the same in the pick Phoenix sent Boston.

yes this is the exact pick we are getting from boston that was originally from pheonix.

Gillies wouldn't shock me, though i'm sure plenty of people on HFboards would say it's a bad pick which has been pretty standard for about 4 years now since i've been here. Gillies has traits that the Ducks appear to covet, players develop at different rates. At the same time I can see the Ducks trading down and getting some more picks.

I wouldn't be surprised if they went with him either. I was reading The Hockey News and under his "NHL translation," it simply says, "character player." It's obvious that Burke is really big on character as a determinant in terms of who plays on his roster but I worry about Gillies's offensive upside. It seems like scouts aren't really sure where to rank him--some think he'll go in the top 15, some think he'll fall to round 2. I keep reading scouting reports about how he can hit and "fly, but he never does anything" and his puck skill are described as average. I'd rather Burke draft someone like Pacioretty w/ the 16th (if it's not traded away and Pacioretty hasn't been picked yet). No doubt Gillies will be that type of player that adds intangibles to any lineup in the future, that are crucial to having success though.

I wouldn't be surprised if they went with him either. I was reading The Hockey News and under his "NHL translation," it simply says, "character player." It's obvious that Burke is really big on character as a determinant in terms of who plays on his roster but I worry about Gillies's offensive upside. It seems like scouts aren't really sure where to rank him--some think he'll go in the top 15, some think he'll fall to round 2. I keep reading scouting reports about how he can hit and "fly, but he never does anything" and his puck skill are described as average. I'd rather Burke draft someone like Pacioretty w/ the 16th (if it's not traded away and Pacioretty hasn't been picked yet). No doubt Gillies will be that type of player that adds intangibles to any lineup in the future, that are crucial to having success though.
Opinions vary on him that's for sure one person will say he's seen him dominate another will say that he didn't impress them but that could probably be said for many players in this draft.

Am I the only one who see the need of another scoring forward instead of a top-4 d-man?

If Giggy resign I would trade Bryz and a third rounder for a solid left wing and keep our first rounder, Nick Petrecky is the type of player who could work for Anaheim.

Am I the only one who see the need of another scoring forward instead of a top-4 d-man?

If Giggy resign I would trade Bryz and a third rounder for a solid left wing and keep our first rounder, Nick Petrecky is the type of player who could work for Anaheim.

Nope, I think we need a forward as well. Though we don't need a left winger for our roster right now but a talented kid would be nice for the future.

Am I the only one who see the need of another scoring forward instead of a top-4 d-man?

If Giggy resign I would trade Bryz and a third rounder for a solid left wing and keep our first rounder, Nick Petrecky is the type of player who could work for Anaheim.
Depends remember in 2003 most people thought it was a lock we would take a defensemen, instead we took Getzlaf with 19 then trade for another first and take another forward, Perry. If the BPA is a dman I have to think the Ducks would take whoever that is, though I am with you on wanting an offensive forward.

Rally, I admit I was a bit out of topic. Some people threw some trade offers (including picks) and I wrote mine as well.

As for the draft I agree with you, BPA is the only way to select a player. About Anaheim needs for the next year, I think we need another scoring threat.

For anyone who wants to check it out or comment, I've wrote my latest blog entry about who I would choose (top 3 options) if I were the Ducks here:

http://www.anaheimducks.info/blogs/2007-entry-draft-who-would-i-pick/

Thanks :)

In TSN's mock draft, the Ducks took Thomas Hickey. Not sure I like him being chosen over Petrecki...

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?fid=11054&hubname=

Id still rather have Hamill.

Id still rather have Hamill.

So would I if they take a forward (as well as either of Pacioretty or Sweatt, as I previously mentioned). And I really couldn't see him lasting until 22 like in the mock draft. I generally like the forwards in this draft more than the defensemen, though so many of the prospects appear to be exremely close in talent/potential based on scouting reports. If they do opt to take a dman though, I hope they get Petrecki or Shattenkirk if either are still available over Hickey.

Id still rather have Hamill.

Yeah. I would be pissed if we passed over Hammil. I see the kid being an awesome second-line center in the future.

Then again, I was pissed when we passed over Thelen, Schremp and Tukonen for Smid, and when we passed over Johnson and Kopitar for Ryan, and when we passed over Sanguinetti for Mitera.

Hmm, not sure how well these'll work out, but, so far, Smid seems like a great pick.

Hammil, Hamill. Whatever.

Hammil, Hamill. Whatever.

I'm not even sure how it's spelled. And, frankly, I could care less. As long as they spell it right on the back of his Ducks sweater on Friday, that would be all fine and dandy with me.

haha, I have a feeling we wont be picking 16.

The ESPN Mock Draft has us taking Mayorav. Yeah right. The day Burke takes a Russian with consistency problems in the first round is the day I have dubya over for a bbq.

If we don't get Hamill, I want Couture. I am actually still undecisive about who I want over the other one.

If we don't get Hamill, I want Couture. I am actually still undecisive about who I want over the other one.

I'd be surprised to see Couture available on draft day.

My wishlist for the 16th pick of this following draft.

1. Alexei Cherepanov. Hope the lack of a Russian Transfer Agreement will turn off a lot of teams so we can select him.

2. Nick Petrecki. Whats not to like, he has all the physical tools to be very special.

3. Colton Gillies. Yeah, a big winger who can lay the body with some offensive upside.

In all, this is a very exciting draft. i have read its kind of a crapshoot after the first 3 picks. I hate to believe it, but i think its sort of true. Of the three mentioned, they have a chance to be gone before or GM get his pick.

A good majority of the mock drafts have us picking Nick Petrecki. He sounds like a Burke type of player. :)

I'd be surprised to see Couture available on draft day.

I would've been before, but, I've seen him slip a bit lately. I doubt he falls to #16, but, if he did, that would be amazing.

I also wouldn't mind trading up for a guy like him. If it was expensive, then definetely not, but, if we could trade up to #10 or so, and didn't have to give up a whole lot, that'd be cool.

Ok, we were right. We do have a pick in the third round. :D

Considering our draft cupboard was pretty bare after the Pronger trade, I think we ended up pretty well in regards to how many picks we have.

http://anaheimducks.com/press/release/topstory.php?dir=200604&id=1755

Round Overall Selection
1............................................. 16 (From T.B.)
2............................................. No Selection
3............................................. 63 (From PHX)
4............................................. 92 (From PHI)
4............................................. 93 (From PHX)
4............................................. 98 (From CBJ)
4............................................. 121
5............................................. 151
6............................................. No Selection
7............................................. 211 (Optional to CBJ)


Burke sure likes his 4th rounders! :yo: :D

This draft is pretty exciting. There's a number of players that I have a good feeling about. Last year, there wasn't really much that I was excited about where we were picking. Mitera certainly didn't have much hype. This year there's Gillies, Petrecki, Pacioretty, Sweatt, Blum, MacLean (we need more Irish names), some drafts have McDonagh down there (that'd be great with McDonald), Couture might drop.

I wonder if it might be a good risk to trade our 3rd and say 2 4ths to get a second round pick. There's some decent depth, we might get a good prospect who's dropped down to the 2nd round.

Any news on new unis? Might they be released for the draft? Or are we sticking with the same design, just in the new cut? We did win the cup with this design.

I still have a feeling we will trade down especially if Burke wants Gillies and thinks he'll drop...he has alot of the traits we've been drafting recently and for his size already skates well. This draft is supposed to be unpredictable so trading the first for maybe two other top 40 or so picks may not be a bad thing if what McKenzie says is true and how some teams will have players in the top 10 that others don't even have in the first round.

Any news on new unis? Might they be released for the draft? Or are we sticking with the same design, just in the new cut? We did win the cup with this design.

A bit out off topic, but I hope we don't change the jersey design too much. What I really want is a shoulder patch.

A bit out off topic, but I hope we don't change the jersey design too much. What I really want is a shoulder patch.

I think we'll see the web-foot D a little more prominent. The Ducks used that a lot during the playoffs.

I'm not really liking what I'm seeing in recent mock drafts as we draw closer(1 day away!!!!) to the draft....I see Petrecki, Hamill, Backlund, Eller all being off the board once we get to our pick. Personally, if I'm Burke, then I'm trading down. Why? Because he'll end up picking one of Colton Gillies, Max Pacioretty, Jonathan Blum, Brett Maclean, Brandon Sutter, or Bill Sweatt....one of those guys will still be around in 5-6 picks after us. Also, none of those guys amaze me....what everyone forgets about sweatt is that in addition to people questioning his hands, scoring, etc....he severed tendons in his arm in a freak accident this year.....:(

I think we need selanne twin brother or someone like sammy Pahlsson

None of the finnish players this year are any good....and we already got the next sammy: petteri wirtanen.

Altough I'm from Sweden I've never heard about this guy before. But after been reading about him and seeing the video beneath I like him alot.

The player Im talking about is Mario Kempe, he was awarded for being the fastest skater of the QMJHL this past season. And omg this guy can skate!

Here's a vid from youtube showing some of his highlights this season:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBOMnZjW7RQ&mode=related&search=

Other than his skating abilities he's got great technique (they call him "magic stick") and has a good shot. He might also bring some leadership, as I see he wears an A. Other things I like is that despite his playing style he doesn't seem afraid at all crushing the net.

Stats from hockeydb:
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid=96398

Kempe is projected to go in round 3-5, and as the Ducks have several number of picks in round 3 and 4 I don't there will be a big problem to pick him if we want to.

In TSN's mock draft, the Ducks took Thomas Hickey. Not sure I like him being chosen over Petrecki...

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?fid=11054&hubname=

The Kings pulled out the problem picking him at 4# LOL!

Are there any younger, swarthier George Parroses out there?

The Karl Alzner having Snoop Dogg's Parros-stache as a good luck charm was pretty funny.

Good thing Chiarelli congratulated us, the "Anaheim Mighty Ducks."

Hey, it looks the Ducks are going to have a steal with their selection.

At 13th Esposito and Cherepanov are still available. So is Petrecky and many many others I have my eyes on.

Damn, I was kind of hoping McDonagh would have dropped and Montreal would have taken Esposito.

Damn, I was kind of hoping McDonagh would have dropped and Montreal would have taken Esposito.

WTH? I would take Espo any day of the week.

Eller went next. We have at least a chance on Petrecky if Chere and Espo go out next. :D

Edit: Shattenkirk 14th. Wowwww!!!

But I feel we're gonna go out of the board again this year, no Espo or Chere for us. I would kill myself if we end up with Gillies.

What if Cherepanov is still there? Would the Ducks pick him and then later on dangle him for a trade or keep him if he pans out? Since the Ducks didn't really have a 1st round pick... it would be a long term planning with Cherepanov.

Well, at least one of the two will be available when we get up, assuming we didn't do something with our pick.

Ducks are now in position to steal Esposito or Cherepanov...I have the feeling Burke will find another Mitera instead. :(

i really want them to keep their pick no trades esposito or Cherepanov would make my day

I'm betting on Gillies...

How do you pass on a talent like Cherepanov though?

Cherepanov, Espo and Petrecky are all available.

I don't see Burke going after a russian (but he would be very smart to go after the BPA) but Esposito could be a great pick for us.

I just have a bad feeling about Esposito. Cherepanov wouldn't be bad. But big and Canadian still makes Petrecki or Gillies likely.

trade:

Anaheim trades the 16th pick to Minnesota

for 19 and 42nd picks

Trade. Down for Gillies?

I had a feeling we were going to trade down.

16# to Minny for 19# and 42#.

I love Burke.

I like that trade...gets the Ducks a 2nd rounder...and still probably get the player they want at 19th (Gillies?).

man i'll take it but to think if we had those two

burke is good

Trade! Duck's 16th for Wild's 19 and 42 (2nd round pick... 12th). Petricki, Cherepanov, and Espo could still be there! Ha! Picked up a 2nd rounder.

42 is Minnesota's Thelen compensation right? Pretty nice haul for only moving down 3.

I hope for a player with a bigger offensive upside than Gillies.

Gillies is out. Thank you Minny.

Burke is a genius!

Minnesota takes Gillies.

if Burke was set on Gillies he would have taken him right there...

Esposito???

42 is Minnesota's Thelen compensation right? Pretty nice haul for only moving down 3.

yes, very nice trade by Burke.

So Burke must have known Minnesota would have picked Gillies and wanted someone else right? Of course he could have been picked by NY or Calgary, but you HAVE to ensure that your pick doesn't get taken by the team you trade with right? Not that I care if we had Gillies or not, but it's just an academic question.

I guess his target was really Gillies and expected Espo and Cherepanov to be picked.

Oh well, it gets intriguing, gotta love it!

I wonder if Burke is considering selecting Cherepanov, then driving him and Bryzgalov to the airport. :sarcasm:

Chere is out, as expected. Steal by the Rags.

Russian goes to the Rangers.

hope the ducks get esposito:)

Nice muscle shirt on Cherepanov. Ha.

Doug MacLean sounds SO bitter about Zherdev.

Calgary trades 18th pick to St. Louis for 24th and 70th picks.

St. Louis wants Esposito I imagine...

See compare Calgary 18 for 24+70something to our 16 for 19+42. Now THAT's value.

Although this trade may screw up us getting whoever we wanted.

Blues take Ian Cole...

Ducks want a D-man they should take Petrecki...they want a forward take Esposito.

The other teams just want the Ducks to take Esposito.

Nick Petrecki anyone??

Blues take Ian Cole...

Ducks want a D-man they should take Petrecki...they want a forward take Esposito.

Win-win situation.

But I fear another trade or an off-the-board pick.

Please Esposito Please!

Burke on his way to the stage this time...

i really would love them to take esposito

Logan MacMillan

center

Logan WHO?

Logan Mcwho? Wow, could we have traded down more?

of course Burke goes after a two-way forward with an edge when there is a top pairing d-man and scoring line center available.

Off the board pick as expected

Logan Mcwho? Wow, could we have traded down more?

exactly, should have moved back into the mid 20s...added another 2nd or 3rd rounder.

Cool enough for me..im from pei too,Logan Macmillan is a great hockey player

From Cup's draft guide:
39. Logan Macmillan

Position: Center
Shoots: Left
Date of Birth: May 7, 1989
Height: 6’-1”
Weight: 172 LBS
06-07 League: QMJHL
06-07 Team: Halifax
Stats: 68 GP 20 G 35 A 55 PTS
Strengths: Exceptional vision and playmaking ability to go with his good overall defensive responsible game. He works hard and is willing to pay the price to help his team. He is not afraid to drive the net or play in high traffic areas. MacMillan is a very poised prospect and doesn’t panic with the puck. He has leadership abilities and could develop into captain material down the line. He possesses good size and is still growing.
Weakness: Skating and overall foot speed need to be worked on as Logan is just an adequate skater and to be a good defensive player in the NHL, he will need to be faster on his skates. Another area is his strength. He could spend the off season in a gym. Needs to work on his shot as it is not very hard, but that should develop with some upper body strength.
NHL Potential: Third line defensive forward with some offensive potential.
Boom or Bust Potential: Med Risk, Med Reward. His determination and defensive abilities say he will play pro hockey, in what role is yet to be determined.
Extra Note: Logan has had a great playoff posting 20 points in 12 games including 9 goals for Halifax. It will be interesting to see if he can carry that performance through next season and be a top scorer in the QMJHL.

X-Sharkie:
60. C Logan MacMillan, 6-2 195 7-5-1989, Halifax Mooseheads QMJHL, 68 gp – 20 g – 35 a – 55 points - -5 – 59 pims.
++ Mature two-way game, hockey sense, character
+ Hands and passing ability
- Questionable top end offensive upside.

One of the late risers of the draft, MacMillan had a slow start to the season but came a live and dominated late in the season all the way through the playoffs where on some nights he was even better than his line mate Jakub Voracek. Very safe pick, MacMillan will definitely play in the NHL but will mostly likely bounce between the 2nd and 3rd lines while never touching the top line. Offensively he’s a decent skater despite his heavy feet and is always in position to finish the play or create one through his impressive vision and passing skills. Hands and skating are fine but neither is great. Should be a tremendous asset to the penalty kill and is will bring exceptional character and leadership qualities to the team that drafts him.

The Ducks seem really happy with this pick. I trust our scouting department. :)

Pittsburgh steals Esposito with the 20th pick...

interesting where he will fit in there in a few years at Center with Crosby and Malkin Centering the scoring lines.

Like Pittsburgh really needs another scoring center.

I'm fine with MacMillan, it sounds like a solid pick, I just wonder why we didn't try to get him with our 42nd or trade further back. Especially picking a guy with skating concerns, we're good at fixing those.

Like Pittsburgh really needs another scoring center.

I'm fine with MacMillan, it sounds like a solid pick, I just wonder why we didn't try to get him with our 42nd or trade further back. Especially picking a guy with skating concerns, we're good at fixing those.
I think it's great that the Pens have another top rated player for the draft on their side. They're on the East lol. Gah, it kills me that he'll be on the forth line for them...

Sounds like a Rob Niedermayer player.

It seems Burke doesn't like risky picks. It's like "If you don't work your butts off you're not gonna be a part of this organization".

I trust him, but Petrecky was a better target even for what he likes.

What are they talking about? This first round pick was going to Edmonton no matter what. It's 08 that Edmonton got from us for going to the SCF.

The Ducks seem really happy with this pick. I trust our scouting department. :)

I look at this as a "Corey Perry" pick. That and from all reports, he got better as the year went on as opposed to stalling. Aside from just reports, I really don't know much about him.

His wiki page is just being made, any one got a pic of him?

Perry had a great offensive upside, this guy has scored 55 points in the QMJHL...

Perry had a great offensive upside, this guy has scored 55 points in the QMJHL...
He also had 20 points in 12 games in the play-offs.

He stepped up as did Rob Nieds :D

We're lucky with 19# picks and I trust our scouts.

Welcome Anaheim Logan! :handclap.:

Perry had a great offensive upside, this guy has scored 55 points in the QMJHL...
55 points is low, but 38 in the last 36 games does hold some promise. Swan, who I think the team is pretty high on, has 54 points in 61 games, and he's a year older.

Backlund thinks Prospal is the best player in the NHL... hockey sense problems!

Backlund thinks Prospal is the best player in the NHL... hockey sense problems!
lol, I can see there being problems with this one!

Logan MacMillan (http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=318093)

This guy sounds great to me. A Ducks kind of player.

Nick Petrecki is taking a fall...wonder why?

Nick Petrecki is taking a fall...wonder why?

They are talking about him now...hockey sense might be a weakness...

Ha, SJ traded to the 41st pick, one before us.

I think that Burke did really good getting the 42nd overall. He still got the player he wanted and we got a 2nd rounder. :)

Ha he, well there goes Petrecki to San Jose.

San Jose trades up to get Petrecki.

Nick Petrecki is taking a fall...wonder why?
Not anymore.

Wait, guys are Rounds 2-7 on the morrow?

Wait, guys are Rounds 2-7 on the morrow?
Better be, I need to go to bed soon, it's 03h11 right now and I need to get up in the morning...

Wait, guys are Rounds 2-7 on the morrow?

Yep, they start at 7 am tomorrow. I'm going to attempt to get up in time so I can see the rest of the draft picks but I haven't been so good at rising early as of late.

Yep, they start at 7 am tomorrow. I'm going to attempt to get up in time so I can see the rest of the draft picks but I haven't been so good at rising early as of late.

No TV or stream though right? Thank ya for answering my questions. :)

Looks like I will be constantly refreshing NHL.COM... :D ...or sleeping in. :help:

No TV or stream though right? Thank ya for answering my questions. :)

Looks like I will be constantly refreshing NHL.COM... :D ...or sleeping in. :help:

I think they're supposed to stream the rest on NHL network. I'll try it tomorrow if I'm up.

After the draft's completely over, I won't be able to wait until July 1st. :yo:

I look at this as a "Corey Perry" pick. That and from all reports, he got better as the year went on as opposed to stalling. Aside from just reports, I really don't know much about him.

After reading all the reports, I thought exactly the same thing. He sounds a lot like a Corey Perry player. One thing to note about MacMillan is he is only about to turn 18.

So who's available for 42 that we may be interested in? Sweatt? Cohen? Tyrell? A goalie?

Logan Mac is going to be a stud mark my words....they kid had almost two ppg in the playoffs...is on the rise...will be our #2 center.

Reflecting back on our original 16th pick, does anyone know if we even interviewed Cherepanov? I got the impression we wouldn't like Esposito because he had work ethic issues, but the main negative thing I've seen about Cherepanov is he doesn't play much defense. I wonder if he was never interviewed because he was projected to be much higher, and then we didn't keep the 16th and pick him because we didn't have an interview.

Here is some audio from Logan and an article about him from Anaheimducks.com . Sounds like a quality player. :)

http://anaheimducks.com/press/release/topstory.php?dir=200604&id=1760

BTW, I think that NHL.COM is streaming NHL Network's feed of Rounds 2-7. I could be wrong, but I just wanted to let you all know. :)

Ah man, another disappointment.

Reflecting back on our original 16th pick, does anyone know if we even interviewed Cherepanov? I got the impression we wouldn't like Esposito because he had work ethic issues, but the main negative thing I've seen about Cherepanov is he doesn't play much defense. I wonder if he was never interviewed because he was projected to be much higher, and then we didn't keep the 16th and pick him because we didn't have an interview.

The Ducks... or rather Burke would NEVER have drafted a Russian. It's not that they didn't interview him... it's just that he didn't want him. Although, I think if Bryan Murray were in charge, then he would have taken a flyer on Alexei.

I kinda wanted Alexei, but knew that Burke would never go that route. Here's the reasoning behind that... Teemu. The Ducks will need a sniping scorer! Alexei could play exactly like Teemu and if the reports are that Alexei has scored more than Ovechkin, etc, around the same age, then DAmn! Take a shot!

::: raising shoulders ::: I thought it would be great to have that change of pace game. The Andy-Teemu line is speed with skill. All of the other lines aren't on the same level with Andy-Teemu.

The same feeling I got two years ago when the Ducks drafted Bobby Ryan instead of Jack Johnson is how I kinda feel about not picking Alexei. I hope the scouts prove me wrong.

So who's available for 42 that we may be interested in? Sweatt? Cohen? Tyrell? A goalie?

I made a list about a week ago of some skaters that have caught my eye when reading about them in THN, media guide, TSN, and other sources for player profiles and added in players now that they have the 2nd rounder.

For forwards:

-Billy Sweatt (LW)--very determined, great skater and extremely fast. I doubt he'll be around by the 42nd but I'd love for him to become part of the organization.

-Brett MacLean (LW)--aggressive, high energy power forward but, like Sweatt, I wouldn't be surprised if he was already gone by the 42nd.

-Dana Tyrell (C/RW)--said to be a very competitive, outstanding leader with incredible work ethic, and despite his smaller stature (5-10, 185), fights through checks/wins battles for the puck, etc., out of the WHL

-Olivier Fortier (C)--speedy energy player, effective on the pk, very hard worker, out of the QMJHL

-Nick Spalling (C)--willing to battle through traffic, good at making plays in front of the net, excels on faceoffs and on the pk.

Alex Killorn (C)—aggressive, great puck handler, throws big hits to create turnovers, quick shot release, out of the OHL

Zack Torquato (C)—energetic, versatile two-way forward, has a nice wrist shot, good passer, out of the OHL

Luca Caputi (LW)—big power forward, great work ethic, strong fore-checker, crashes the net, out of the OHL

Matt Lahey (RW)—good skater, strong physical presence, goes to net hard, out of the OHL


As for defensemen...

T.J. Brennan--skilled passer, strong skater w/ a hard shot, active stick and patient on the point, out of the QMJHL

John Negrin--excels in one on one situations, speed allows him to join the rush to create scoring chances, anticipates play well, out of the WHL

Colby Cohen—offensive d-man, nice passer, sees the ice well, out of the USHL

Eric Doyle--a big, stay at home d-man who finishes his checks, strong skater, also out of the WHL

Ted Ruth-- strong one on one, quick to get to pucks in corners, hard hitting stay at home d-man out of the USDP

Well, day one over and what can I say. Surprising pick but IMO a very good one although you have to look twice to love this it. I mean, who here had Logan on the list? He is definitely a Burke type of player and i thought before the draft that our selection will be a player who has a. great work ethic and b. who stepped up in the playoffs. Well, tataaaaaaaaaa Logan is exactly that kind of player and now after reading the interviews with him and the reports on him I have to say brilliant work. It is even more interesting that he played together with Swan and maybe in a few years we will see them on one line again.

Whats up now. I love the trade of Burke and I really dream of Sweatt taken at 42. But the really interesting thing will be what happens to Bryz. I thought that a trade will happen yesterday but Bryz stayed. The Panthers and Toronto both have their goalie now, so who can be interested in Bryz? Maybe the Preds? Phoenix? I don't know, I just think that the Predators can be an interesting partner for the trade. They can throw in Klein or Franson and/or draft pics.

It will be an interesting second day and I just can say, I'm happy with the first but I want to see huge Burke magic on the second!

Super off the board...he only played 10 games or so, injury riddled season...very talented though...but im shocked.

How did Los Angeles get Anaheim's second-round pick? Was that the one we sent to Edmonton?

Also, how did we get that third-rounder from Phoenix?

Our pick went to Vancouver and then to LA if I remember right.

Ducks take: (Third round selection)

ANA
(from PHX) MAXIME MACENAUER 1/4/1989 Laval, PQ
5' 11.25" 188 QMJHL ROUYN-NORANDA C L

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid=89541

Seems really off the board...going to trust the scouts on this one. :)

Yeah, the past 3 players they've taken don't even have profiles in the draft media guide.

Are there any German goaltenders in the league? I can't think of any right now.

San Jose is hiding all of them in their system until they can trade them of for some high picks ;)

Man, I'm tired, but I am here. :biglaugh:

Go Ducks! :yo:

Man, I'm tired, but I am here. :biglaugh:

Go Ducks! :yo:

Lol, same. I got up at 5 because I couldn't go back to sleep but at least I won't miss anything now. :D

Brennan and Maclean have been picked so far.

Dang it, I couldn't tell who the Ducks picked lol.

EDIT: It is Eric Tangradi. He didn't have a great regular season, but he had a monster playoff. http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid=96610

http://mckeenshockey.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=683968
McKeen's: Describe the type of game you play. What are your strengths? Weaknesses?
Tangradi: I play a very aggressive crash-and-bang game that consists of constant battling for position. The strengths of my game are my playmaking along with good puckhandling skills. My weaknesses would be my quickness and explosion.

McKeen's: Which NHL player do you model your game after and why?
Tangradi: I model my game off former Philadelphia Flyer Keith Primeau because he is a big guy with good hands and vision for the game.

Here's his profile from the Draft Meda Guide (it doesn't have a scouting report):

ERIC TANGRADI
Belleville • OHL
6'3", 207 lbs. Center, shoots left
Born: February 10, 1989 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Final Ranking: 93 • Mid-Term Ranking: 187 • North American Skater

Personal Profile: Nickname is Tanger… wears #25 because it was the number that Keith Primeau wore in Philadelphia… patterns his game after his favorite player, Keith Primeau because of his hard work, physical play and complete skill set… his pre-game ritual includes laying in a cold tub before the game for 10 minutes and listening to the same two songs… most memorable hockey game played: 2007 playoff game against Ottawa – “I played my best game of the year and scored the overtime winner”… most memorable hockey game watched: 2000 Eastern Conference semi-final game between the Pittsburgh Penguins and
the Philadelphia Flyers with Keith Premeau’s overtime goal coming at 92:01 of overtime – “the heart and character that those players showed was very inspiring. That was the moment I knew I wanted to succeed in hockey and it fueled my desire”… names his father as having the most influence on his career – “he was always there for me and he helped me believe that I could reach my goals”… if he could invite any three people to dinner they would be: George Washington, Abraham Lincoln and George Bush – “I am very interested in politics and would enjoy discussing matters of their time along with today’s society”… favorites include: Philadelphia Flyers (NHL team), Jeremy Roenick and Keith Primeau (NHL players), “fake shot backhand” (shootout move), Madden 2007 (video game), Denzel Washington (actor), The Bone Collector (movie), The O.C. and Entourage (TV shows).

Statistics
Season Team League GP G A PTS PIM
2006-07 Belleville OHL 65 5 15 20 32

Eric Tangradi's also got a MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/tangradi (http://www.myspace.com/tangradi)
I don't remember seeing his name anywhere for prospects or anything. What kind of player are we expecting out of him?

From http://hockeysfuture.com/prospects/eric_tangradi:
Prospect Grade: 0.0
:help:??

Ducks take: (Third round selection)

ANA
(from PHX) MAXIME MACENAUER 1/4/1989 Laval, PQ
5' 11.25" 188 QMJHL ROUYN-NORANDA C L

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid=89541

Seems really off the board...going to trust the scouts on this one. :)

From http://hockeysfuture.com/prospects/eric_tangradi:
Prospect Grade: 0.0
:help:??

We don't do grades and ranking until after they're drafted usually.

nm, Detroit just grabbed him (Torquato).

How did Los Angeles get Anaheim's second-round pick? Was that the one we sent to Edmonton?

Also, how did we get that third-rounder from Phoenix?

How did Los Angeles get Anaheim's second-round pick? Was that the one we sent to Edmonton?

Also, how did we get that third-rounder from Phoenix?

Caryle pick went to Vancouver...then to LA in the Cloutier trade.

We got the Coyote's pick from Boston, who acquired it from the Yotes in the Boynton trade. (We got it in the Cheesy trade). :)

Our last two picks in the 4th round.

Justin Vaive

http://www.redlinejunior.com/html/sam_evalcamp.html

Edges good. Work ethic solid. Straight-ahead skating and acceleration needs work; lack of speed evident here, but he should get better in this area as he fills out and acquires better leg strength. He's all arms and legs right now, but has huge frame to fill out. Not overly smart on the ice; lacking creativity.

Steven Kampfer

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid=81013

Caryle pick went to Vancouver...then to LA in the Cloutier trade.

We got the Coyote's pick from Boston, who acquired it from the Yotes in the Boynton trade. (We got it in the Cheesy trade). :)

I'm amazed you can keep track of all this. Well done.

Next pick in the 4th round. A German goaltender. Yes, I am surprised as all of you are.

SEBASTIAN STEFANISZIN 7/22/1987
DE 6' 0" 190 GERMANY EISBAREN BERLIN G L

Next pick in the 4th round. A German goaltender. Yes, I am surprised as all of you are.

SEBASTIAN STEFANISZIN 7/22/1987
DE 6' 0" 190 GERMANY EISBAREN BERLIN G L

Are there any German goaltenders in the league? I can't think of any right now.

Caryle pick went to Vancouver...then to LA in the Cloutier trade.

We got the Coyote's pick from Boston, who acquired it from the Yotes in the Boynton trade. (We got it in the Cheesy trade). :)
Damn you've either got a crazy memory or found a good website.

The NHL lists the pre-draft pick movement here:http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=319927.

Are there any German goaltenders in the league? I can't think of any right now.
Kolzig? Greiss of SJ might be next year.

edit: N/M, Kolzig is South Africa. German sounding name though.

Damn you've either got a crazy memory or found a good website.

The NHL lists the pre-draft pick movement here:.

I remembered the Cloutier one...I admit to looking up the 3rd round thing a couple of weeks ago. :D

Kolzig? Greiss of SJ might be next year.

edit: N/M, Kolzig is South Africa. German sounding name though.

He plays for Team Germany during the Olympics though. :)

Are there any German goaltenders in the league? I can't think of any right now.

mhm, somehow my post vanished...

anyway:
San Jose is hiding all the Germans in their system, they just drafted Timo Pielmeier, who was Stefaniszin's backup in the world juniors. That makes three German goalies for them. Anaheim broke San Jose's streak of drafting all available German goaltenders ;)

Kölzig has nothing to do with South Africa, he was born there, but that's it. Similar story as Robyn Regehr, who was born in Brazil, but doesn't have any connections to the country.

MATTIAS MODIG 4/1/1987 LULEA, SWEDEN SE 6' 0" 163 SWEDEN LULEA G L

Ducks draft another goaltender...this time a Swede. :)

So why does NHL.com say our 5th round pick belongs to Phi?

I believe that is incorrect. The 151st pick could be our last pick. (It will be with CBUS decides to take our 7th rounder). Of-course, unless we trade up... :D

Ha... the NHL announcer "the camera is showing the big board in the 5th round. And if you don't recognize some of those names, don't feel bad. We're researching those names ourselves."

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid=80964

Our last pick, BRETT MORRISON 7/25/1987 Sydney, NS
5' 10" 178 QMJHL PEI C L

Smallish center, but has good numbers. :)

BRETT MORRISON 7/25/1987 Sydney, NS 5' 10" 178 QMJHL PEI C L

Solid pick, although hes an 87...wins about 68% of his faceoffs, nifty player, not a blazing skater though...the pattern continues lol

We can send all of these "not solid" skaters out to Travis Moen's farm for the offseason to do whatever he did.

Morrison sounds like center depth for Portland.

Looks like our MO this year is to get left-shooting centers and players from the Q. Only 1 Dman, and 2 European goalies.

Our first 6 draft picks now have Wikipedia pages, anyone else want to now add content to them? I've got to get something to eat..

I'd love for the Ducks to get Torquato if they end up w/ a 7th rounder and he's still available. I'm shocked he hasn't been drafted yet.

Edit: nm, Detroit just grabbed him. How do all of the other teams pass on players like him and the Wings get him late in the 6th round? They've always been good at finding these late gems.

So, to recap:

1st Round

19-Logan MacMillan

2nd Round

42-Eric Tangradi

3rd Round

63-Maxime Macenauer

4th Round

92-Justin Vaive

93-Steven Kampfer

98-Sebastian Stefaniszin

121-Mattias Modig

5th Round

151-Brett Morrison

!:yo:!

!:yo:!
This guy's going to be a star. :D



But really, I had never heard of the last 6 players they took and know close to nothing about Tangradi. I was really hoping for at least one of the players I listed yesterday but Burke either passed on them or other teams picked them before he had the chance to draft them.

I'm not happy about all our selections but I trust our scouts.

Duck's blogger Adam Brady expecting a trade announcement very soon...

Well, that's it from the Draft. As I mentioned before, stay tuned for another trade announcement. Find it on the home page and find further blogging in Ducks blog. Thanks for tuning in, all three of you!

Sounds minor, but it could be Bryzgalov.

But really, I had never heard of the last 6 players they took and know close to nothing about Tangradi.

It's the team's prerogative to pick whoever they feel will be the best players, but I think the penalty for picking off-the-board selections should be that the team has to provide snippets of its scouting report, as there's no information about pretty much ANYONE they picked today.

Sounds minor, but it could be Bryzgalov.

Well, it turned out to be Ryan Shannon.

This guy's going to be a star. :D



But really, I had never heard of the last 6 players they took and know close to nothing about Tangradi. I was really hoping for at least one of the players I listed yesterday but Burke either passed on them or other teams picked them before he had the chance to draft them.Well im a bulls ticket holder so I see Tangradi play every game. He is a big guy who can get a little grity but one knock on him is using that frame. He had average year offensively in the season, but absolutely exploded in the playoffs. He showed a great nose for the net, and also showed fantastic finishing ability. Reminds me of Penner a little.

Ha I'm reading the Ducks draft blog now, and it's kind of funny. Actually, it's more likely sometimes mildly humorous and often failing miserably. Kind of like me!

Here's a good one: 5:46 p.m.

The Colorado Avalanche take defenseman Kevin Shattenkirk of Greenwich, Connecticut, who played for the U.S. National Under-18 team last year. His name sounds like a mixture of Captain Kirk and William Shatner, the guy who played Captain Kirk. Interesting.

See, these are the things you write when you've never seen someone play. Bet you're not hearing this garbage on Versus!

Of course he forgot to mention that no one's hearing that garbage on Versus because no one gets Versus.

Ducks seemed to go for late risers, atleast for our first two picks. I really wanted Bill Sweatt.

Ducks seemed to go for late risers, atleast for our first two picks. I really wanted Bill Sweatt.

You can definately see some philosophies in terms of how they seem to try to maximixe value. Pick guys that have talent but didn't play much (often through injury), eg Swan, Macenauer, JPL. Pick guys where skating is a question, but they have good size and work ethics, eg Ryan, MacMillan. Pick guys who finished strong, like MacMillan, Tangradi, Bolt. Take an older guy late, such as Morrison, Salcido, Wirtanen. Pick a raw character guy going to college for the extra years of development, as in Mitera, Bailey, Vaive, Kampfer. And last but not least, pick a goaltender with a crazy name so other teams won't pick him, a la Stefaniszin, Modig, Levasseur, Bouthillette, and Bryzgalov.

BTW, here's a little blurb on Kampfer from x-sharkie:
74. D Steven Kampfer, 5-11 200, 9-24-1989, Michigan NCAA 35 gp – 1 g – 3 a – 4 points.
++ Poise, vision, hockey sense
+ Skill
- Does nothing special.

Plays a mature two-way game that goes unnoticed by the untrained eye but he’s the type of reliable defenseman that the more you see of him the more you like. He’s mobile with exceptional lateral mobility and a strong stride heading forward. He sees the ice well and distributes the puck crisply. Possesses underrated skill that shines through every so often, and it is something that should be on display more next season with increased ice time. His defensive positioning is impressive and he can skate with anyone making him a formidable one-on-one defender. He’s not a big guy, but is sturdy on his feet and can land the odd nice open-ice body check. Steven is a smart player with superb two-way awareness. While he’s not a first-round prospect he definitely deserves to be drafted before the mid-rounds.

Vaive, per Cup's guide:
Justin Vaive, RW, U.S. National U-18
Justin has great bloodlines as his father Rick was a scoring power forward in the NHL for 13 years. Justin has more grit and jam than the elder Vaive did and his hands are coming along as well. The biggest knocks on Justin are his slow feet and that his hands are not great but I think he will improve his skating over the next couple of seasons and as long as you don’t expect another Rick Vaive to be developed then you could have a decent third/fourth line checker on your hands after a few years at Miami University, worth a late round selection in my opinion.

Also our first two picks had good playoffs so i'm sure that was a factor as well.

We can send all of these "not solid" skaters out to Travis Moen's farm for the offseason to do whatever he did.

I think that is an excellent idea seriously someone should teel the ducks that. Of all of the picks Justin Vaive is the one who I would like to see play.

We can send all of these "not solid" skaters out to Travis Moen's farm for the offseason to do whatever he did.

For some reason, I picture Moen on inline skates, pulling a plow.