WC SF: May 12th GDT - Russia vs. Finland

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Chimp
05-11-2007, 12:16 PM
The Russian bear against the Finnish terrier. While Russia are the clear favourites, they also have the biggest pressure. The crowd will carry them or boo them to pieces. However, in this game I think the crowd will be a big help for Russia.

Morozov is out due to a knee injury, which is very unfortunate for Russia. He has been their best scorer and leads the entire tournament with 8 goals. He is also a killer on penalty shots. Now it's time for guys like Ovechkin to show their Russian heart.

Finland on the other hand has to play their game and try to play physical, aggressive and with a great deal of the famous sisu, as that might be their chance to upset the Russian team on Russian soil. Lehtonen can't have a bad game and Finland have to let the Russian defensmen commit mistakes instead of their own.

http://www.iihf.com/Hydra/Tournaments_07/output/WS/hydra.iihf.com/113/

FiNsKa
05-11-2007, 12:18 PM
Nummelin out.

http://www.iltalehti.fi/kisaextra/200705116099594_ki.shtml

Finland will have to have a perfect game to beat the Russians. I predict that Russia will win this one. 5-3 final.

FiNsKa
05-11-2007, 12:20 PM
The Russian bear against the Finnish terrier. While Russia are the clear favourites, they also have the biggest pressure. The crowd will carry them or boo them to pieces. However, in this game I think the crowd will be a big help for Russia.

Morozov is out due to a knee injury, which is very unfortunate for Russia. He has been their best scorer and leads the entire tournament with 8 goals. He is also a killer on penalty shots. Now it's time for guys like Ovechkin to show their Russian heart.

Finland on the other hand has to play their game and try to play physical, aggressive and with a great deal of the famous sisu, as that might be their chance to upset the Russian team on Russian soil. Lehtonen can't have a bad game and Finland have to let the Russian defensmen commit mistakes instead of their own.

http://www.iihf.com/Hydra/Tournaments_07/output/WS/hydra.iihf.com/113/ (http://www.iihf.com/Hydra/Tournaments_07/output/WS/hydra.iihf.com/113/)

Terrier? C'mon... That's Sweden. Finland is more like a Pitbull.

Kaktus
05-11-2007, 12:25 PM
Brylin will probably play for team Russia and hopefully we will shut down Ruutu line.

Chimp
05-11-2007, 12:29 PM
Terrier? C'mon... That's Sweden. Finland is more like a Pitbull.
You mean more like this? :sarcasm:
http://www.pahrump-pets.com/dog%20butt%20face.jpg

psycho_dad
05-11-2007, 12:30 PM
Losing Nummelin is a huge problem for Finland. But at the same time, Russia lost Morozov so I guess it's fair then.

Russia has the better offense for sure, and they also have a bit better defense now that Nummelin is out. One BIG thing in favour of Finns is goaltending. Last time (5-4 russia won) Norrena sucked balls, and gave russians 4 easy goals. Lehtonen won't do that, so either Russians have to shoot better than they did in that game, or their goalie has to step up.

Biggest problem for team Finland will be the defense. At times against USA it was horrible. Against Sweden it was great. If they can do what they did against sweden, Finland has a good chance to advance. If they make mistakes like they did against USA, Russia will take this game.

Finland has been quite inconsistant in these games. If they can combine the defensive play of the sweden game and offensive play of USA game, Russia will fight for bronze on sunday.

But we shall see tomorrow. I think it's going to be an intense battle and I expect to see a lot of Jarkko Ruutu tomorrow....yapping, poking, falling, hitting...whatever it takes to drive the russians nuts and make them lose their cool.

FiNsKa
05-11-2007, 12:30 PM
You mean more like this? :sarcasm:
http://www.pahrump-pets.com/dog%20butt%20face.jpg

Yeah, that's more like it. ;)

Kaktus
05-11-2007, 12:57 PM
Losing Nummelin is a huge problem for Finland. But at the same time, Russia lost Morozov so I guess it's fair then. While you can not replace Morozov, adding Brylin will help. Hopefully Ovechkin, Kovalchuk and Malkin can step up and do some demage.
Russia has the better offense for sure, and they also have a bit better defense now that Nummelin is out. One BIG thing in favour of Finns is goaltending. Last time (5-4 russia won) Norrena sucked balls, and gave russians 4 easy goals. Lehtonen won't do that, so either Russians have to shoot better than they did in that game, or their goalie has to step up. Well, you forgetting one thing. Koshechkin played against Finland and gave up one soft goal. Koshechkin is out. Who was the goalie who shot out Czechs? Russians controlled 1st game for 40 minutes. I like our chances but I will not underestimate Finland.But we shall see tomorrow. I think it's going to be an intense battle and I expect to see a lot of Jarkko Ruutu tomorrow....yapping, poking, falling, hitting...whatever it takes to drive the russians nuts and make them lose their cool. You forgot to add taking penalties.

psycho_dad
05-11-2007, 01:07 PM
Well, you forgetting one thing. Koshechkin played against Finland and gave up one soft goal. Koshechkin is out. Who was the goalie who shot out Czechs? Russians controlled 1st game for 40 minutes.

Yes Russia controlled the first 40 minutes and finns were a bit lost. But the scoring chances werent anything special, Norrena just made them count. Lehtonen won't help you like that. Both teams have a different goalie this time, so we'll see how that goes. I think Finland will make a very boring game out of this one, defending with the whole unit and trying to press russians against the boards and keep them from the best scoring sector.

RuuhkaTukka
05-11-2007, 01:09 PM
You mean more like this? :sarcasm:
http://www.pahrump-pets.com/dog%20butt%20face.jpg

Now that is funny!

Teme-84
05-11-2007, 01:09 PM
I can't put it into words how unfortunate it is to loose Petteri Nummelin for the rest of tournament. He was, absolutely, our most important defenseman. Now he can't play and to be honest, I'm a bit worried about tomorrow.. I definitely wish everything goes well. Petteri was already second defenseman who gets injured, now there must already be some forward playing in defense.. :shakehead

psycho_dad
05-11-2007, 01:30 PM
You forgot to add taking penalties.

I hope this referee knows the rules better than the last one, so I am hopefull that players will be allowed to hit clean this time.

If the refs send finnish players in the box every time a russian goes "boohoo", finland will lose.

Den
05-11-2007, 01:33 PM
Where did the terrier come from?

Den
05-11-2007, 01:35 PM
Nummelin out.

http://www.iltalehti.fi/kisaextra/200705116099594_ki.shtml
.

Why? What does it say?

Systemfel
05-11-2007, 01:38 PM
Why? What does it say?Because suffered some kind of leg injury against the U.S.

Den
05-11-2007, 01:42 PM
I'm a bit worried about tomorrow..

:handclap: :handclap:

FiNsKa
05-11-2007, 01:46 PM
Why? What does it say?

Says that xrays revealed a hairline fracture on his leg/knee. So he is out indefinitely.

Teme-84
05-11-2007, 02:01 PM
:handclap: :handclap:

:D

But if our guys make the same thing as in Torino 2006 olympics against Russia, there's no reason to be worried. I mean, in case Finland succeeds in making Russian players frustrated. But, Ville Koistinen will be a very interesting name in the roster. He's a young guy and surely will have lost of power and enthusiasm on the ice in his performance.

Chimp
05-11-2007, 03:22 PM
Where did the terrier come from?
I don't know, I guess it's a mental image I got in my head. Allow me to explain myself. First, Swedish commentator Niklas Wikegård has said, if I don't remember it wrong, that "the Finnish forecheckers are rushing around like aggressive terriers on our defensemen". Second, Finnish hockey players in the national team haven't been that overly big, but quite small. Players like Teppo Numminen, the small but skilled defenseman in Buffalo, enhances that image.

If I'm allowed to generalize, Finnish hockey players are like terriers. Fast, aggressive, physical and when they got a bite on you, it's hard to make them let go. ;)

The mental image of small Finnish hockey players isn't helped by the fact that one famous Finnish scoring line was called after the three ducklings Donald Duck takes care of, Huey, Dewey and Louie (Lehtinen - Koivu - Selänne, right?).

And oh, if you have a guy like Jarkko Ruutu on a team, which not only acts like a terrier, but barks as much as a terrier, I guess you're not that far off calling the meeting between Russia and Finland "the struggle between the bear and the terrier." ;)

Ruutu in his prime. :D Hilarious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYPWCJ_0Km0


http://www.biermacht.net/img/topidiot/ruutu.jpg = http://www.peace4pets.com/pet_images/mainAngry%20Casey.JPG? ;)

And no, if someone feels this is some kind of insult to Finnish hockey, it's not. It's respect.

Chimp
05-11-2007, 03:23 PM
Because suffered some kind of leg injury against the U.S.
Yeah, he received a hip check from a US player that hit him pretty bad over the legs.

Den
05-11-2007, 03:30 PM
I don't know

Hey, isn't that dog on the pic topped by some other animal? Looks like a little bear :naughty:

It would be also interesting to propose an explanation what makes Russian players look like a bear (well, other than the cumbersome D-men)? Huge? Slow? Keep on forgetting to score when they see honey? Ah, I got it: lazy.

Phenomenon
05-11-2007, 03:38 PM
The mental image of small Finnish hockey players isn't helped by the fact that one famous Finnish scoring line was called after the three ducklings Donald Duck takes care of, Huey, Dewey and Louie (Lehtinen - Koivu - Selänne, right?).

Wrong. The name was given before 1994 Olympics for the youngster line Lehtinen - Koivu - Peltonen and they made it famous in WHC 1995 when they were without a doubt one of most dominant trios in WHC tournaments ever and sealed the gold medals for Finland. Selanne was at the same time playing NHL regular season (because it was the lockout year).

You are right that Peltonen was later on replaced by Selanne in the Olympics and World Cup etc. and this line has been one of the best lines for example in the past two Olympic Games and international tournaments in general.

Chimp
05-11-2007, 03:39 PM
Hey, isn't that dog on the pic topped by some other animal? Looks like a little bear :naughty:

It would be also interesting to propose an explanation what makes Russian players look like a bear (well, other than the cumbersome D-men)? Huge? Slow? Keep on forgetting to score when they see honey? Ah, I got it: lazy.
Naaw, this is a Russian bear.
http://www.englishrussia.com/images/daily_photos/33.jpg
http://www.englishrussia.com/images/daily_photos/33.jpg
It's up to Ovechkin to start driving and not tagging along in the semifinal. ;)

But seriously, the mental image of the Russian bear comes from several things as well I guess. First, it's the historical and political perspective. "Don't wake the Russian bear". Leave Russia alone, or you will wake the bear and get run over. This can also be applied to sports.

Then there is basketball, handball and hockey, where there are always a bunch of huge Russian guys playing defense (mostly). Big and slow, yes, but also very strong, impossible to move and hard to shoot over/around. And if they hit you, you either wish or actually will end up dead. ;) And don't forget that bears never run out of stamina.

Phenomenon
05-11-2007, 03:41 PM
It would be also interesting to propose an explanation what makes Russian players look like a bear (well, other than the cumbersome D-men)?

I don't know about a bear lookalike, but I loved Ovechkin's performance as the Toxic Avenger.

PJM
05-11-2007, 03:49 PM
Second, Finnish hockey players in the national team haven't been that overly big, but quite small. Players like Teppo Numminen, the small but skilled defenseman in Buffalo, enhances that image.

There have been some smaller players in our national team over the years, but I would not say Teppo Numminen (185 cm / 90 kg) is one of them.

Chimp
05-11-2007, 03:53 PM
There have been some smaller players in our national team over the years, but I would not say Teppo Numminen (185 cm / 90 kg) is one of them.
Hmm, I think I mixed him up with Timonen. Or who the hell? It's one very skilled, small QB Finnish defenseman I'm thinking about. Nummelin?

Den
05-11-2007, 03:56 PM
But seriously, the mental image of the Russian bear comes from several things as well I guess

I know, I know, just pulling you leg

I always had problems with national mascots. "American eagles soars high". I used to recall that a lot whenever I would see a Midwest momy coming out of McD..ds with the rear back that was about to eclipse the Sun. "Canadian beavers" must have felled most maple trees over there which are not as widespread as you would expect.

All these mascot do not really capture the national spirit.

By the way, this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_animals

states that the national animal of Finland is a bear.

Russia sucks in basketball, I don't know anything about who we are in handball, and definitely a slow huge Russian hockey D-men is not exactly the image that pops in your head when you say "Russian hockey player".

Chimp
05-11-2007, 03:58 PM
Russia sucks in basketball, I don't know anything about who we are in handball, and definitely a slow huge Russian hockey D-men is not exactly the image that pops in your head when you say "Russian hockey player".
Perhaps not, but "The Russian bear" vs. the "Finnish terrier" sounds epic enough. ;) And that bear in the taxi is awesome.

Anyway, despite all this animal talk, the games tomorrow will be awesome.

Finnswiss
05-11-2007, 05:12 PM
For me it would be a very big surprice if Finland wins, especially because Petteri Nummelin can't play, why the Finns always have bad luck:cry: ? Who else is able to give the magistral passes to his teammate like against the USA for Kallio in PP for example?

I think the final will be Russia against Sweden or Canada.

I'm afraid Russia wins but hopefully I'm again wrong as against the USA when I said that Finland lose the penalty shootout.

Berkut
05-11-2007, 10:01 PM
OK, I put 10 euros on Finland. If we lose I'll be devastated but 50 euro richer :naughty:

GO RUSSIA GO! :D

Forsberg4ever
05-12-2007, 12:18 AM
Will Evgeni Nabokov dress/start?

Teme-84
05-12-2007, 12:53 AM
Will Evgeni Nabokov dress/start?

According to the latest news I heard: No.

psycho_dad
05-12-2007, 04:35 AM
No, Nabokov never came to help the team. They decided they dont need him in this tournament.

BlackLabel
05-12-2007, 05:01 AM
Ruutu in his prime. :D Hilarious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYPWCJ_0Km0

Great vid, but I like this one better. :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7bIFkRO9oc

Boucicaut
05-12-2007, 05:45 AM
Our chances lie in the pressure that team Russia must be feeling. If we can keep them off the scoreboard for a while or -even better- get an early lead, then we have a pretty good chance. Lehtonen must show up as well. Our PP likely won't click as Nummelin can not be replaced, unfortunately.


Brain says: 6-2 Russia
Heart says 3-1 Finland

Anyways, here's hoping for a good game!

Hakkaa Päälle!

Boucicaut
05-12-2007, 05:56 AM
Hmm, I think I mixed him up with Timonen. Or who the hell? It's one very skilled, small QB Finnish defenseman I'm thinking about. Nummelin?

Both Timonen and Nummelin fit that description.

Reks
05-12-2007, 06:15 AM
Is it possible to watch this game (Russia vs. Finland) live in Internet somewhere? Maybe TSN? Thank you!

Riddarn
05-12-2007, 06:20 AM
Since I'm not rooting for any of the teams in this game: Go Refs, Go! ;)

Reks
05-12-2007, 06:34 AM
Guys! Please help! I am in the UK now and desperately want to watch this game. Any Internet broadcast? Thank you!

Systemfel
05-12-2007, 06:42 AM
Guys! Please help! I am in the UK now and desperately want to watch this game. Any Internet broadcast? Thank you!Broadcasting info (http://myp2p.eu/NHL.htm) | SopCast (http://www.sopcast.org/)

psycho_dad
05-12-2007, 06:43 AM
In Jarkko we trust!

You can't help but laugh when watching his tribute videos....what a CHARACTER!

Any team needs one, and every fan loves one in their own team....but opponents fans will never like or even understand his role. He is one of the most important players on the ice today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hwqgys1kez8

:yo:

Paxton Fettel
05-12-2007, 07:06 AM
guys, what Russian channel is gonna show this game? I think the game is not on RTR Sport anymore! Is it on channel 1?

msky
05-12-2007, 07:10 AM
Rtr

Depch
05-12-2007, 07:23 AM
markov seems injured :E

Den
05-12-2007, 07:23 AM
Blyad, Bergenheim, uebok poshel nah...

Kaizer
05-12-2007, 07:24 AM
retard

Den
05-12-2007, 07:24 AM
Is it that every Finn in this team can double as a goon?:banghead:

Jussi
05-12-2007, 07:25 AM
Markov out after a knee-knee on collision with Bergenheim. Bergenheim gets 5+20.

Lady Lynx
05-12-2007, 07:25 AM
Bergenheim... :shakehead

We certainly did NOT need this kind of start to the game.

Riddarn
05-12-2007, 07:25 AM
Ugly stuff.

Like Wall
05-12-2007, 07:25 AM
Kovalchuk, Ruutu - two foul mouthed morons

Den
05-12-2007, 07:26 AM
Markov out after a knee-knee on collision with Bergenheim. Bergenheim gets 5+20.

No, it's not a "collision"

Chimp
05-12-2007, 07:26 AM
This game will not be shown on regular TV in Sweden, which sucks really hard. I guess it's streaming for me.

Jussi
05-12-2007, 07:28 AM
Had Markov just taken the hit he might have been ok, since Bergenheim didn't stretch out his leg. But then again he didn't need to make the hit in that situation.

Jussi
05-12-2007, 07:29 AM
No, it's not a "collision"

It wasn't intentional either.

Malkin 1-0.

Den
05-12-2007, 07:30 AM
Ratinalizing goonery? Knee to knee, stretch or bend

Get it!!!!! 1:0

I want another one :yo:

Chimp
05-12-2007, 07:31 AM
Wow, what a shot by Malkin. Perfect in the top corner.

Den
05-12-2007, 07:32 AM
It wasn't intentional either.

Malkin 1-0.

The whole style calls to that. No wonder the marginal physical play turns into goonery now and then

Talentless Practise
05-12-2007, 07:32 AM
Ratinalizing goonery?

Calm down, get a grip of reality.

Jussi
05-12-2007, 07:34 AM
Ratinalizing goonery? Knee to knee, stretch or bend



Goonery? From Bergenheim? Yeah, right. He just got carried away, made a reckless tackle with unfortunate results.

Den
05-12-2007, 07:35 AM
Why would I come down? Reality is that our leading D-man may be out.

Like Wall
05-12-2007, 07:35 AM
Holy diver!!! You're the star of the masquerade

Den
05-12-2007, 07:36 AM
Goonery? From Bergenheim? Yeah, right. He just got carried away, made a reckless tackle with unfortunate results.


Why are still offering an explanation?

Gustavsson
05-12-2007, 07:36 AM
Holy crap, Russians are diving like crazy. This is pathetic. Stay on your ****ing feet.

ranold26
05-12-2007, 07:36 AM
You have to be kidding... :biglaugh:

Paxton Fettel
05-12-2007, 07:36 AM
this is the dirtiest finnish team I've ever seen.

Colorado Avalanche
05-12-2007, 07:37 AM
This is like watching bold and beautiful

BEAUTIFUL GOAL!

Kaizer
05-12-2007, 07:37 AM
wooo... another "collision" from behind

Jussi
05-12-2007, 07:37 AM
Why are still offering an explanation?

Because I see bad intentional knee hits before and this not one.

Hentunen 1-1 short-handed!!!

Talentless Practise
05-12-2007, 07:37 AM
Why would I come down?
Because you are so emotional right now you are not making any sense. A knee-on-knee hit is something that unfortunately happens from time to time in hockey. Goonery is something altogether different.

Chimp
05-12-2007, 07:37 AM
Finland plays exactly like I expected them to, very physical and almost borderline aggressive. They can't draw penalties though.

Wow! Great speed effort by Hentunen!

Depch
05-12-2007, 07:38 AM
1-1!!!! SHG!! hentuneen

mikkoz
05-12-2007, 07:38 AM
Hentunen 1-1

ranold26
05-12-2007, 07:38 AM
Yessssssssssssssssssssss!:yo:

Gustavsson
05-12-2007, 07:38 AM
Yes, 1-1.

Lady Lynx
05-12-2007, 07:38 AM
Hentunen!!!! :handclap: :yo: :handclap: :yo:

Den
05-12-2007, 07:39 AM
Because you are so emotional right now you are not making any sense. A knee-on-knee hit is something that unfortunately happens from time to time in hockey. Goonery is something altogether different.

What sense, you took out our best D-man. What sense do you need?

Kyri
05-12-2007, 07:39 AM
Hentuneeeeen!! :yo: hehe

Depch
05-12-2007, 07:40 AM
whoa, nice play by malkin

brownman*
05-12-2007, 07:41 AM
Yay, more bad news for Russian/Hab fans :shakehead

Shoot me in the mouth for God's sake

Chimp
05-12-2007, 07:42 AM
Malkin is playing like he's possessed. He wants the gold.

Talentless Practise
05-12-2007, 07:42 AM
What sense, you took out our best D-man. What sense do you need?

I did? Thanks for proving my point.

psycho_dad
05-12-2007, 07:42 AM
What sense, you took out our best D-man. What sense do you need?


Sense of seeing behind the result of play. The intention wasnt there, but unfortunately it still happened. Bergenheim just tried to drop the guy with a good open ice hit but knees collided.

Like Wall
05-12-2007, 07:42 AM
Peltonen is a tricky fox

Jussi
05-12-2007, 07:42 AM
Yay, more bad news for Russian/Hab fans :shakehead

Shoot me in the mouth for God's sake

Gun, anyone? :D

YesYesYall
05-12-2007, 07:43 AM
I like the Finnish resilience. Their PK is astounding.

CUBErt
05-12-2007, 07:43 AM
What sense, you took out our best D-man. What sense do you need?
It was an accident. Unfortunately these things happen in hockey and Bergenheim got tossed out for his action, so quit crying about it already.

Flaymin
05-12-2007, 07:44 AM
Oh my god, Russians got a penalty? Vinneborg found his whistle?

Jussi
05-12-2007, 07:44 AM
Sense of seeing behind the result of play. The intention wasnt there, but unfortunately it still happened. Bergenheim just tried to drop the guy with a good open ice hit but knees collided.

Yeah, that's the danger with open ice hits, if you try to avoid there's a risk of a knee-on-knee collision.

Flaymin
05-12-2007, 07:47 AM
Very nice hit from Tuomo Ruutu!

mikkoz
05-12-2007, 07:47 AM
What hit!! Go Tuomo!

Jussi
05-12-2007, 07:47 AM
Wow, what a hit by Ruutu!

psycho_dad
05-12-2007, 07:47 AM
Tuomo Ruutu!!! What a hit!:handclap:

Den
05-12-2007, 07:47 AM
"Seeing behind the result of the play", "proving my point". What the hell does it mean? I'd like to see your sense if Lehtonen or something was taken out

Kyri
05-12-2007, 07:48 AM
Best hit of this tournament!! Wow!

Chimp
05-12-2007, 07:48 AM
Lol at the German commentator... "an Aeroflot pilot" on that Ruutu hit.

Talentless Practise
05-12-2007, 07:49 AM
"Seeing behind the result of the play", "proving my point". What the hell does it mean? I'd like to see your sense if Lehtonen or something was taken out

:nopity:

Jussi
05-12-2007, 07:50 AM
"Seeing behind the result of the play", "proving my point". What the hell does it mean? I'd like to see your sense if Lehtonen or something was taken out

Well since Lehtonen is a goalie and you can't hit goalies, that is a poor comparison.

Flaymin
05-12-2007, 07:51 AM
"Seeing behind the result of the play", "proving my point". What the hell does it mean? I'd like to see your sense if Lehtonen or something was taken out

Are you seriously saying that our "goon" Bergenheim intentionally took your defenseman out? Accidents happen and this time with very unfortunate results.

Den
05-12-2007, 07:51 AM
Well since Lehtonen is a goalie and you can't hit goalies, that is a poor comparison.

Any other key man of Team Finland of your choice.

Talentless Practise
05-12-2007, 07:53 AM
Any other key man of Team Finland of your choice.

Nummelin was taken out in the USA game with a borderline hipcheck.

Wisent
05-12-2007, 07:53 AM
Hey, isn't that dog on the pic topped by some other animal? Looks like a little bear :naughty:

It would be also interesting to propose an explanation what makes Russian players look like a bear (well, other than the cumbersome D-men)? Huge? Slow? Keep on forgetting to score when they see honey? Ah, I got it: lazy.

It is the memory of Ragulin.

CUBErt
05-12-2007, 07:54 AM
Any other key man of Team Finland of your choice.
News Flash: Nummelin was "taken out" against the US. I don't recall very many Finnish fans whining about that hit (although there were some).

psycho_dad
05-12-2007, 07:54 AM
"Seeing behind the result of the play", "proving my point". What the hell does it mean? I'd like to see your sense if Lehtonen or something was taken out

Seeing behind the result....as in not judging the situation by your emotions because of what happened to Markov, but seeing it as just an unfortunate, unlucky situation where one player tried to give a big open ice hit and one tried to dodge it and got injured because knees collided. It was not intentional, Bergenheim did not try to extend his leg but Markov tried at the last second to avoid the hit.

This is hockey, its a contact sport and sometimes accidents happen and people get injured. I dont know what kind of hockey they play in russian league, but judging by your reactions, there is not a whole lot of hitting.

Vikke
05-12-2007, 07:55 AM
Lol at the German commentator... "an Aeroflot pilot" on that Ruutu hit.

Hah, yeah. I laughed at that one.

Den
05-12-2007, 07:55 AM
Are you seriously saying that our "goon" Bergenheim intentionally took your defenseman out? Accidents happen and this time with very unfortunate results.

Really don't care intentionally or not. He knows what this can lead to, and chose to do that. 100% of blame.

Phenomenon
05-12-2007, 07:56 AM
Bergenheim´s tackle was a bit late and on the edge of the rule book. 5+20 was the right decision, although there was no strecthing or anything and not even Father Josif could claim that an intentional kneeing.

For some reason Russian players have adopted the same style that Italian football players are famous: a 5 minutes death after every physical contact. Losers. Put some rocks into your pockets, so the weight will keep you on your feet. :shakehead

mikkoz
05-12-2007, 07:56 AM
Why are they talking Russia here?

Paxton Fettel
05-12-2007, 07:57 AM
Finnish strategy is working > Markov is taken out, Ovechkin takes his spot on the PP, and makes a lethal mistake at that spot that leads to the goal.

Systemfel
05-12-2007, 07:57 AM
Very nice hit from Tuomo Ruutu!
What hit!! Go Tuomo!
Wow, what a hit by Ruutu!
Tuomo Ruutu!!! What a hit!:handclap:Agreed, but that would have been a penalty had the receiver been injured.

I actually have to defend my avatar guy a bit here. Sure, it was a low hit, but Bergenheim got his left knee away from Markov and hit him with the hip.

mikkoz
05-12-2007, 07:58 AM
Bergenheim´s tackle was a bit late No it wasn´t, Markov didn´t want to take the hit.

CUBErt
05-12-2007, 07:58 AM
Really don't care intentionally or not. He knows what this can lead to, and chose to do that. 100% of blame.
...and Bergenheim got tossed out because of the hit. So, once again, quit whining and move on.

illone84
05-12-2007, 07:59 AM
The hit was unfortunate but these things happen.

Riddarn
05-12-2007, 08:00 AM
Finland playing a much better team game so far. Eremenko looks pretty weak.

I hope the Russians can use their advantages in skill, speed and creativity a bit more in the rest of the game. If not, Finland will probably win this thing by the odd goal or so.

psycho_dad
05-12-2007, 08:01 AM
Really don't care intentionally or not. He knows what this can lead to, and chose to do that. 100% of blame.

What does it lead to? You know full well that team russia is packed with skilled players and thats their way to dominate. If they try to get physical, you know exactly which one of these two teams wins that game.

Phenomenon
05-12-2007, 08:03 AM
A very good debut period from Ville Koistinen. No mistakes and every pass found its way to the right address. Maybe we could try him in the PP instead of Söderholm or Saravo?

Den
05-12-2007, 08:04 AM
...and Bergenheim got tossed out because of the hit. So, once again, quit whining and move on.

Markov out=Bergenheim 5+20. Nope, ney.

Den
05-12-2007, 08:05 AM
No it wasn´t, Markov didn´t want to take the hit.

:biglaugh:

Wisent
05-12-2007, 08:06 AM
Go Kiss Cam go!!

Jussi
05-12-2007, 08:06 AM
A very good debut period from Ville Koistinen. No mistakes and every pass found its way to the right address. Maybe we could try him in the PP instead of Söderholm or Saravo?

I hope so, Söderholm sucked on the PP (having said that, he'll probably score soon).

CUBErt
05-12-2007, 08:08 AM
Morkov out=Bergenheim 5+20. Nope, ney.
Yes, these things happen in hockey. Unfortunate accident and Bergenheim payed the full price by being thrown out. I fail to understand what else you want. I guess you're just setting up the explanations for a Finland win? C'mon buddy, have a little more faith in your team than that!

Phenomenon
05-12-2007, 08:09 AM
Good luck that Ruutu's tackle did not throw Zinojev over the boards due, because it would have been 5+20 for trashing.:sarcasm:

Depch
05-12-2007, 08:10 AM
good save lehtonen :handclap:

DayWalk3r
05-12-2007, 08:12 AM
For those who need a English stream.

mms://a846.l3156036845.c31560.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/846/31560/v0001/reflector:36845%2036845%26akcp=31560%26akserial=84 6%26fp=v001% <- Just paste this link in your browser (Internet Explorer) or just open up with WMP.

Den
05-12-2007, 08:13 AM
This is not the D that we had two days before

Talentless Practise
05-12-2007, 08:13 AM
Russians=dirty goons:shakehead

Like Wall
05-12-2007, 08:14 AM
3 backstabs from Rus, one from Fin

Den
05-12-2007, 08:15 AM
For those who need a English stream.

mms://a846.l3156036845.c31560.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/846/31560/v0001/reflector:36845%2036845%26akcp=31560%26akserial=84 6%26fp=v001% <- Just paste this link in your browser (Internet Explorer) or just open up with WMP.

Thanks, much better traffic quality. But delayed

psycho_dad
05-12-2007, 08:16 AM
This ref is afraid to call all the hits from behind that russia is doing all the time. Quite weak performance by him so far.

Wisent
05-12-2007, 08:16 AM
Russia plays excellent on the PK

Jussi
05-12-2007, 08:18 AM
Russia plays excellent on the PK

Rather we play crappy PP. Why the hell aren't Koistinen and Kontiola on the ice? :shakehead

Den
05-12-2007, 08:18 AM
Who has too many men on the ice, I didn't get it?

Like Wall
05-12-2007, 08:18 AM
For those who need a English stream.

mms://a846.l3156036845.c31560.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/846/31560/v0001/reflector:36845%2036845%26akcp=31560%26akserial=84 6%26fp=v001% <- Just paste this link in your browser (Internet Explorer) or just open up with WMP.

wow, superb quality. Is it Canadian? Which website?

Wisent
05-12-2007, 08:19 AM
For those who need a English stream.

mms://a846.l3156036845.c31560.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/846/31560/v0001/reflector:36845%2036845%26akcp=31560%26akserial=84 6%26fp=v001% <- Just paste this link in your browser (Internet Explorer) or just open up with WMP.

THX, much better quality than the one on DSF. Unfortunately there is something wrong with my satellite dish so I have to stream.

mikkoz
05-12-2007, 08:19 AM
What, erkka showed some emotions, the ref must of made a mistake.

Phenomenon
05-12-2007, 08:19 AM
A very questionable Too many men call from Vinneborg.

daikan
05-12-2007, 08:20 AM
For those who need a English stream.

mms://a846.l3156036845.c31560.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/846/31560/v0001/reflector:36845%2036845%26akcp=31560%26akserial=84 6%26fp=v001% <- Just paste this link in your browser (Internet Explorer) or just open up with WMP.

Awesome! Will you have one for the Sweden game too? :innocent:

runkle
05-12-2007, 08:20 AM
For those who need a English stream.

mms://a846.l3156036845.c31560.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/846/31560/v0001/reflector:36845%2036845%26akcp=31560%26akserial=84 6%26fp=v001% <- Just paste this link in your browser (Internet Explorer) or just open up with WMP.


Nice! thanks DayWalk3r

Phenomenon
05-12-2007, 08:20 AM
Rather we play crappy PP. Why the hell aren't Koistinen and Kontiola on the ice? :shakehead

Koistinen was on the 1st PP.

CUBErt
05-12-2007, 08:21 AM
Markov is back. The time for excuses is over.

Jussi
05-12-2007, 08:21 AM
So much for Markov being out...

Depch
05-12-2007, 08:21 AM
markov is back

Like Wall
05-12-2007, 08:21 AM
Markov is back. So all whining off

Den
05-12-2007, 08:21 AM
Weak PP so far

Phenomenon
05-12-2007, 08:21 AM
Markov is on the ice, so not so bad price for Bergenheim's tackle.

Jussi
05-12-2007, 08:22 AM
Koistinen was on the 1st PP.

Ok, I must have missed that.

Railman
05-12-2007, 08:23 AM
Markov is on the ice, so not so bad price for Bergenheim's tackle.

We'll see. Players who come back on the ice after being injured and look fine sometimes can't play the next few days (or sometimes weeks or even months).

Paxton Fettel
05-12-2007, 08:24 AM
this Russian team has the worst PK ever.

Den
05-12-2007, 08:24 AM
Yey :handclap: :handclap:

Out of a sudden Bergenheim's a saint

Wow, Lehtonen keeps it

Pablo
05-12-2007, 08:25 AM
Markov out=Bergenheim 5+20. Nope, ney.
Markov out for 15 minutes = Bergenheim out 5 (+ 20) + GOAL. Happy now?

Den
05-12-2007, 08:25 AM
this Russian team has the worst PK ever.

Why? It was OK. PP could be better

Phenomenon
05-12-2007, 08:25 AM
Ruutu-Koivu-Kallio seems to be hard to stop for Russians. T.Ruutu is the powerhouse of this tournament and shows the same signs of his potential that we saw in Finland before his years of injuries.

Den
05-12-2007, 08:26 AM
We are taking too many penalties

Like Wall
05-12-2007, 08:27 AM
Ville and his toothless smile

Jussi
05-12-2007, 08:27 AM
this Russian team has the worst PK ever.

Our worst PP ever counters that nicely.

psycho_dad
05-12-2007, 08:28 AM
That penalty on T.Ruutu was RIDICULOUS. He did not even touch the player who lost his balance. NICE CALL :rant:

Den
05-12-2007, 08:28 AM
Brylin :handclap: :handclap:

Jude
05-12-2007, 08:28 AM
We are taking too many penalties

The refree is horrible, just like in the last match. :handclap:

Phenomenon
05-12-2007, 08:28 AM
We are taking too many penalties

You are faking too often to get the opponent a penalty.

mikkoz
05-12-2007, 08:29 AM
The ref is giving easy penalties, so in the 3rd period there will be non.

Den
05-12-2007, 08:29 AM
Russia's passive

Den
05-12-2007, 08:31 AM
You are faking too often to get the opponent a penalty.

"Get a sense of reality", "see behind the result of the play"

Talentless Practise
05-12-2007, 08:32 AM
"Get a sense of reality", "see behind the result of the play"

Ignored.

Phenomenon
05-12-2007, 08:32 AM
"Get a sense of reality", "see behind the result of the play"

Look at Kharitonov.

Jussi
05-12-2007, 08:32 AM
What an idiotic set of plays by Kharitonov. Tries to dive to get a penalty for Finland, fails, then takes a stupid retaliatory penalty. :biglaugh:

Flaymin
05-12-2007, 08:34 AM
Lol, Russkies are even worse than Italian football players:handclap: :handclap:

100mph slapshot
05-12-2007, 08:35 AM
Kharitonov is a puke.

Depch
05-12-2007, 08:35 AM
lol, that rusky jump :D

psycho_dad
05-12-2007, 08:35 AM
Look at that DIVING. Kharitonov should have gotten a penalty for that.

Someone needs to tell that ref, that diving is also a reason for penalty.

Like Wall
05-12-2007, 08:36 AM
Holy diver, you're the star of the masquerade!

Talentless Practise
05-12-2007, 08:36 AM
Kharitonov, you are ****ing pathetic.:p:

mikkoz
05-12-2007, 08:36 AM
Its Tomi"the bad"Kallio :)

Garl
05-12-2007, 08:36 AM
What a dive!:shakehead

Phenomenon
05-12-2007, 08:36 AM
Kharitonov tries get a 10 dive record for the game. What a bunch of pathetic losers...

Jude
05-12-2007, 08:36 AM
There must be something wrong with the russians skates, they are falling all the time :D

daikan
05-12-2007, 08:36 AM
Wow, what a dive! That was Prorok-esque!

CUBErt
05-12-2007, 08:37 AM
Man, Russia is diving all over the place. What a bunch of shemales.

Chimp
05-12-2007, 08:37 AM
Just have to agree that Kharitonov is a gutless bum. Twice he has dived big time this period. If the refs would call a diving penalty and a diving penalty only, Kharitonov could deserve one.

mattihp
05-12-2007, 08:37 AM
what's the score? O_o

Like Wall
05-12-2007, 08:38 AM
Reminds me of last champ's Czech team.

Flaymin
05-12-2007, 08:38 AM
1-1 after 2 periods

JVR
05-12-2007, 08:38 AM
What a rediculous dive that was.

I'm going with Finland now!

Suomi! :yo:

Den
05-12-2007, 08:39 AM
Looks like time for a moderator

Kyri
05-12-2007, 08:39 AM
What a bunch of fairys! :shakehead

Phenomenon
05-12-2007, 08:39 AM
Finland against the National Theatre of Moscow

psycho_dad
05-12-2007, 08:40 AM
Totally gutless playing by russians. That kind of puke hockey is a horrible to watch. How can anyone stand behind a team that is completely afraid of contact, and tries to abuse the rules constantly by theatrics.

Thats FOOTBALL, not hockey.

Phenomenon
05-12-2007, 08:40 AM
Looks like time for a moderator

Looks like a time for diving penalties.

mattihp
05-12-2007, 08:40 AM
Kari "Vanilla Ice" Lehtonen in net.

So damn calm :O

Muscle Bob
05-12-2007, 08:40 AM
Ебальники завалили :)

psycho_dad
05-12-2007, 08:41 AM
Looks like time for a moderator

Can you honestly say that your guys have been honorable? If so, what on earth are you watching?

If this is the hockey you love, please keep that hockey in russia. You seem to have a problem with all forms of physical contact, but you love the diving and theatrics.

mattihp
05-12-2007, 08:42 AM
More english in this thread, please.

Chimp
05-12-2007, 08:42 AM
Come on, you can't generalize the whole Russian team because Kharitonov has decided to take teatrics lessons?

Railman
05-12-2007, 08:42 AM
More english in this thread, please.

Pourquoi? Les messages sont presque tous en anglais.

Moins d'anglais dans ce sujet s'il vous plaît.

Muscle Bob
05-12-2007, 08:44 AM
More english in this thread, please.
Тебе сразу нахуй дружок.

Как же меня заебали эти тупые мрази... Как хочется посмотреть их нытьё если наши победят..

psycho_dad
05-12-2007, 08:45 AM
Come on, you can't generalize the whole Russian team because Kharitonov has decided to take teatrics lessons?

He hasn't been the only one unfortunately. It's refs weakness that they are allowed to do that though.

Den
05-12-2007, 08:45 AM
Russky is a slur.

Moderator?

Like Wall
05-12-2007, 08:46 AM
Russians better brace yourselves, if you want that gold!

mikkoz
05-12-2007, 08:46 AM
Min mamma heter Matti Puoskari!

Finnish Flasher
05-12-2007, 08:48 AM
The russian team falls if the ref is watching and finnish stick is within 1 meter of any russian player

Phenomenon
05-12-2007, 08:48 AM
Let's end the neighbour's theater in the last period with more physical play.

Koistinen :yo: :yo: :yo: :yo:

psycho_dad
05-12-2007, 08:49 AM
Russky is a slur.

Moderator?

You are waiting for someone to throw you out or what?

What a surprise, a russian looking at the referee, begging :biglaugh:

Chimp
05-12-2007, 08:50 AM
Now we are getting somewhere... the aggressive playoff emotions. Ah, the atmosphere. ;)

Phenomenon
05-12-2007, 08:51 AM
Russian tactics: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swan_Lake

Den
05-12-2007, 08:51 AM
You are waiting for someone to throw you out or what?

What a surprise, a russian looking at the referee, begging :biglaugh:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russkis#R

mattihp
05-12-2007, 08:52 AM
technically, finn is also a racial slur, as it derives from the latin's fenni, which more or less means vagrant.

Den
05-12-2007, 08:53 AM
technically, finn is also a racial slur, as it derives from the latin's fenni, which more or less means vagrant.

technically, my grandmother would be a grandfather if she had a penis

Like Wall
05-12-2007, 08:55 AM
I'm expecting overtime. I love this slaughter

CUBErt
05-12-2007, 08:55 AM
Come on, you can't generalize the whole Russian team because Kharitonov has decided to take teatrics lessons?
Of course not. I'm just playing around, as are most others, I'm sure. I love AO, Frolov, Malkin and others, but a few of these guys are really pretty disgraceful. The sad thing is, I don't remember seeing this kind of stuff from Russia for quite a while.

Besides, it's not like Finland doesn't have Jarkko Ruutu to keep things even remotely close in this regard.

Garl
05-12-2007, 08:57 AM
Ебальники завалили :)

Once again, if you are so right, why not post in english? Or your posts are so stupid that you are too ashamed to post them in english?

Like Wall
05-12-2007, 08:58 AM
Once again, if you are so right, why not post in english? Or your posts are so stupid that you are too ashamed to post them in english?

Trust me, you don't want to know the english translation of that

Phenomenon
05-12-2007, 08:58 AM
Koistinen should have been playing the whole tournament. Excellent skating and vision.

GuloGulo
05-12-2007, 08:58 AM
technically, finn is also a racial slur, as it derives from the latin's fenni, which more or less means vagrant.

Eh? That's grasping for straws, dude.

Garl
05-12-2007, 08:59 AM
Trust me, you don't want to know the english translation of that

Well I know the translation, but his opponents doesn't.;)

Jussi
05-12-2007, 09:00 AM
Ебальники завалили :)

Mutsis on!

Systemfel
05-12-2007, 09:00 AM
technically, finn is also a racial slur, as it derives from the latin's fenni, which more or less means vagrant.So what is the proper name for a Finish person? A Finlandian?

mattihp
05-12-2007, 09:01 AM
Eh? That's grasping for straws, dude.

Finn is not a good word, no matter how you put it. In swedish it's also a word for acne.

Like Wall
05-12-2007, 09:01 AM
Well I know the translation, but his opponents doesn't.;)

Lol, then lets keep it that way. he he he

Den
05-12-2007, 09:02 AM
Well I know the translation, but his opponents doesn't.;)


"God give me the ability to punch ppl in the nose through TCP/IP" ;)

Den
05-12-2007, 09:03 AM
So what is the proper name for a Finish person? A Finlandian?

I vote for Finnsky

mattihp
05-12-2007, 09:03 AM
So what is the proper name for a Finish person? A Finlandian?

I for one want to see an internationalized version of Suomalainen :P And calling the country Suomi.

Talentless Practise
05-12-2007, 09:03 AM
So what is the proper name for a Finish person? A Finlandian?

"Sir" will do just fine, thank you;)

Den
05-12-2007, 09:03 AM
Too many men?

Phenomenon
05-12-2007, 09:04 AM
Another Too many players on ice penalty!?

Who is running the bench!? Wake up!!!!!

Chimp
05-12-2007, 09:04 AM
So what is the proper name for a Finish person? A Finlandian?
A Koskenkorvian? ;)

Den
05-12-2007, 09:05 AM
Too passive :shakehead

Like Wall
05-12-2007, 09:05 AM
I for one want to see an internationalized version of Suomalainen :P And calling the country Suomi.

in Latvia we say Soms :) Happy?

Crazyhorse
05-12-2007, 09:05 AM
A Koskenkorvian? ;)

That was underneath the belt. :sarcasm:

PsychoDad
05-12-2007, 09:07 AM
technically, finn is also a racial slur, as it derives from the latin's fenni, which more or less means vagrant.

Damn, why dont you sue Finnair for racial issues, dude?

mattihp
05-12-2007, 09:07 AM
in Latvia we say Soms :) Happy?
I know you do ^^

and my name is almost hair in Latvian >_<

I can't remember which word is drunk and which one is swine of

Tschuka
Tsuka

Though ^^
(miss-spelled of course)

Like Wall
05-12-2007, 09:07 AM
Ovechkin quite passive this year. almost 10 min in game's 3rd per. I really expect overtime

Jude
05-12-2007, 09:08 AM
A Koskenkorvian? ;)

I vote this :handclap:

mattihp
05-12-2007, 09:08 AM
Damn, why dont you sue Finnair for racial issues, dude?

I wonder why there's no GipsyAir and such :sarcasm:

Nah, my point is really that I don't quite believe anyone saying the "R Word" (XD) is meaning to be offensive.

Like Wall
05-12-2007, 09:09 AM
I know you do ^^

and my name is almost hair in Latvian >_<

I can't remember which word is drunk and which one is swine of

Tschuka
Tsuka

Though ^^
(miss-spelled of course)



Tsuka sounds like cūka, which is pig

Den
05-12-2007, 09:09 AM
I for one want to see an internationalized version of Suomalainen :P And calling the country Suomi.

"Doitcher", "Kvartvelians", "Castellians"...

mattihp
05-12-2007, 09:10 AM
I am very glad that Russians don't keep the PP simple, as that would get them a goal in a second.

Den
05-12-2007, 09:10 AM
Jeez, are we gonna put something behind this goalie?

Phenomenon
05-12-2007, 09:12 AM
Lehtonen is like a wall.

Like Wall
05-12-2007, 09:13 AM
Lehtonen is like a wall.


No, the only wall is me and Arturs Irbe (our former goalie)

mattihp
05-12-2007, 09:13 AM
Frolov looks like he does my trick in basketball when going by a defender, turning his back to him, with his smooth skating, that could get dangerous.

PsychoDad
05-12-2007, 09:13 AM
I wonder why there's no GipsyAir and such :sarcasm:

Nah, my point is really that I don't quite believe anyone saying the "R Word" (XD) is meaning to be offensive.

Well, its the intention, ya know. If someone in the states says "russki" to a russian, its mostly meant in a deragotive way.

Phenomenon
05-12-2007, 09:13 AM
A dive again. This time Zinojev.

Den
05-12-2007, 09:13 AM
AO has to step in....

Den
05-12-2007, 09:14 AM
A dive again. This time Zinojev.

Finnair :sarcasm:

mattihp
05-12-2007, 09:15 AM
That just plain looked silly.

Ola
05-12-2007, 09:15 AM
For christ sake Russia, beat the finns, how hard can it be? :amazed:

I do not want to play the Finns in the finals if we beat Canada.

Or the Finns can't win it. The OG and WCH would be meaningless for us.

Den
05-12-2007, 09:15 AM
Not much happenning now :shakehead

Den
05-12-2007, 09:16 AM
Lehtonen, how about the Swedish style present :naughty:

Like Wall
05-12-2007, 09:16 AM
Lehtonen is AWESOME today!

Den
05-12-2007, 09:16 AM
How was that not in, Frolov :shakehead

Den
05-12-2007, 09:18 AM
Bad PP so far :shakehead