WC SF: May 12th GDT - Canada vs. Sweden

Hey...
"No, I don't think I've seen him. He was nothing special at the WJC."

Swedish head coach Bengt-Åke Gustafsson on Jonathan Toews.

Way to get your opposition to get pumped up for the game!

Way to get your opposition to get pumped up for the game!

Like its needed. Shane Doan makes more money alone then the entire Swedish roster combined. You might even throw in the entire staff and it wouldn't make a diffrence. We saw for several decades that amatures don't got a chance against pro's.

If Sweden can keep it from gooing double digits against I am very happy.

This game got one purpose, to give these 24 swedish amatures a opertunity to get their 15 seconds of fame, a story, of how they once played on the big scene, to tell their grandchildren.

Like David vs a swedish Goliat, who doesn't like physical stuff and will try a peaceful way, we will get eaten alive.

Like its needed. Shane Doan makes more money alone then the entire Swedish roster combined. You might even throw in the entire staff and it wouldn't make a diffrence. We saw for several decades that amatures don't got a chance against pro's.

If Sweden can keep it from gooing double digits against I am very happy.

This game got one purpose, to give these 24 swedish amatures a opertunity to get their 15 seconds of fame, a story, of how they once played on the big scene, to tell their grandchildren.

Like David vs a swedish Goliat, who doesn't like physical stuff and will try a peaceful way, we will get eaten alive.

Way to overexaggerate!

1. I seriously doubt the score will go to double digits, so prepare yourself to be very happy.
2. There aren't 24 amatures on the team, so stop with that negative attitude.
3. Canada is surely the favourits, but come on, they haven't got the all mother of godly teams ever seen.

Lets be realistic here. Canada have the clear advantage, but it's not like sweden have no chance to win.

That's my 2 öre.

Shane Doan makes more money alone then the entire Swedish roster combined.Doubt it. Doan is currently making $3.382M, while an average SEL team budget is at ~$4M.

Doubt it. Doan is currently making $3.382M, while an average SEL team budget is at ~$4M.

The Swedish team makes around 5m USD. Didn't Doan sign a new contract? ;)

If you look at the Swedish team, a ton of these guys isn't even well payed for playing in the SEL.

Way to overexaggerate!

1. I seriously doubt the score will go to double digits, so prepare yourself to be very happy.
2. There aren't 24 amatures on the team, so stop with that negative attitude.
3. Canada is surely the favourits, but come on, they haven't got the all mother of godly teams ever seen.

Lets be realistic here. Canada have the clear advantage, but it's not like sweden have no chance to win.

That's my 2 öre.

Off 600 players in the NHL, 1 of the the Swedes have made it, 2 have turned down (Jönsson x2). Allot of em have tryed and failed.

For thoose who haven't seen the swedes allot, think of the worst guy on your NHL team, or if you are a homer on the worst guy on somebody else's team, imagine that he have beaten out everyone but 3 on the Swedish team. Everyone but 3.

For Canada, almost everyone have made it, and thoose who haven't have beaten out players that have made it.

It might not reach double digits, like once in a decade, 1 out of 100 games. We are screwed.

Canada is naturally the big favorite here, but we must remember the #1 rule of international tournaments: Never, ever underestimate Sweden.

I found it pretty funny when before the championships people were like "oh look, Swedes don't have any NHL players, what are they doing".
Of course they've had a relatively easy road this far (SVK's defense & team play sucked bigtime), but I wouldn't count them out just yet, unlike some people seem to do here.

Whether Sweden loses or wins, I sure hope that they meet Finland on Sunday. We demand a rematch! ;)

Whether Sweden loses or wins, I sure hope that they meet Finland on Sunday. We demand a rematch! ;)

Nah, GO CANADA GO! :)

Canada is naturally the big favorite here, but we must remember the #1 rule of international tournaments: Never, ever underestimate Sweden.

I found it pretty funny when before the championships people were like "oh look, Swedes don't have any NHL players, what are they doing".
Of course they've had a relatively easy road this far (SVK's defense & team play sucked bigtime), but I wouldn't count them out just yet, unlike some people seem to do here.

Whether Sweden loses or wins, I sure hope that they meet Finland on Sunday. We demand a rematch! ;)
Hey, I'm all up for that. Bronze medal game Sweden/Finland and Gold medal game Canada/Russia would be great!:)

Phoenix defensive coach Ulf Samuelsson warns the Swedish team for Shane Doan. Strong on the puck, likes to play very physical and with a strong shot. Otherwise he also warns about Rick Nash, who is somewhat of a Russian player, someone who sometimes can forget his responsibilities, but can create alot of danger in the offensive zone claims Samuelsson.
http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/sport/story/0,2789,1066540,00.html

It should be a great game. Sweden has no specific stars, but a strong team that can never be underestimated. They weren't favourites to win the gold last year with the team they had, yet still they plowed through the entire tournament. Sweden has no specific scoring line, all lines have players that know how to score, but also how to play effective defense.

Canada might have the advantage on paper, but that usually doesn't matter much when these two teams play.

Who will win? I have no bloody idea. It'll be a great game though, I'm sure of that.

As a sidenote, both teams have been pretty scary in the PP effectiveness, Sweden has been better percentage wise though, having scored on 14/40 (35%), while Canada has scored on 10/43 (23%). The Swedes are also better in the PK department, killing off roughly 90% (2nd), while Canada has killed off 83%. Sweden has also the highest shooting percentage of all teams in the tournament.
http://live82.ihwc.net/english/statistics/?report=IHM113100_84_2_0.html

Hey, I'm all up for that. Bronze medal game Sweden/Finland and Gold medal game Canada/Russia would be great!:)

I think we have a deal. :thumbu:
Bronze games tend to suit us better...

Sweden didn't have too many NHLers last year too and they won it.

I'd say if Sweden will play with their average speed and in their tempo - they are favorites, if Canada will change speed of the game like Russia did (emotions, hard hits, strong forecheking or whatever) they will be favorites to win this game. In my opinion.

If you put that BÅG statement among the other quotes he got, that wasn't so bad. Sweden got bigger concerns tomorrow then Toews (Even though he is a very skilled player).

Sweden needs to play the puckpossesion game, get Canada impatient, make them cummit mistakes, and pot the chances in the powerplays. Andy Murray is a huge Swede-killer, thats why i am still very pessimistic about this game. He knows how to change a game to his favour, either by regular play, or... "physical play".

It will be a battle of the brains tomorrow, BÅG is a good match to Murray, IMO.

Canada will win quite comfortably, 4-1.

I think the game will be decided by one goal.

From what I have seen so far, Sweden is going to lose this one. Unless they come up with a totally new gear and their goalie plays like he played against Finland. Then they have a small chance, because Canada's goalies are somewhat shaky.

In other ways Canada is the most balanced team in the tournament. Good offense, good defense, decent goaltending. Sweden, although they won Finland, was the passenger in that game and the result was one of those freak accidents where a lesser team wins by a fluke goal. In the game against russia, things were normal again and they lost to a dominant team.

The lack of NHL players will show at this point, but they are already in top 4 which is quite respectable. Still, stranger things have happened....I would not be totally surprised if Sweden got into the final.

Like its needed. Shane Doan makes more money alone then the entire Swedish roster combined. You might even throw in the entire staff and it wouldn't make a diffrence. We saw for several decades that amatures don't got a chance against pro's.

If Sweden can keep it from gooing double digits against I am very happy.

This game got one purpose, to give these 24 swedish amatures a opertunity to get their 15 seconds of fame, a story, of how they once played on the big scene, to tell their grandchildren.

Like David vs a swedish Goliat, who doesn't like physical stuff and will try a peaceful way, we will get eaten alive.

Dude, you are taking it way too far, this is gonna be a close game one way or another. It definetly could go either way.

Sweden didn't have too many NHLers last year too and they won it.

Yes but that was a much better roster.

I think Swedes can win this game.

Russia won against Sweden but lets not forget... Sweden did not dress a few players. Kenny Jonsson was one of them. There was someone else I do not remember.

I do not think Canadians were really tested in this tournament yet. They won against USA and Czechs took them to OT.

Should be a good game between two good teams.

Off 600 players in the NHL, 1 of the the Swedes have made it, 2 have turned down (Jönsson x2). Allot of em have tryed and failed.

For thoose who haven't seen the swedes allot, think of the worst guy on your NHL team, or if you are a homer on the worst guy on somebody else's team, imagine that he have beaten out everyone but 3 on the Swedish team. Everyone but 3.

For Canada, almost everyone have made it, and thoose who haven't have beaten out players that have made it.

It might not reach double digits, like once in a decade, 1 out of 100 games. We are screwed.

And since when did this tournament turn into nhl hockey? Imo you are seriously underestimating sweden and overestimating canada. You make it sound like it would be the biggest upset in history if sweden should win, although it barely would be the biggest upset in this tournment.

I'm excited about this game, Canada vs Sweden, why not. The Sweden team has some great players, and two that I'm very excited to watch, Steen, and Anton Stralman. Go Canada Go, but I'm looking forward to a very entertaining game.

http://hfboards.com/imagehosting/417054644beb9baf0c.jpg (http://hfboards.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=5356)

I have changed my mind. BÅG-Stein will lead us to victory over the evil canadians! :handclap:

It might not reach double digits, like once in a decade, 1 out of 100 games. We are screwed.

Hey, they only scored 5 against Switzerland.

http://hfboards.com/imagehosting/417054644beb9baf0c.jpg (http://hfboards.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=5356)

I have changed my mind. BÅG-Stein will lead us to victory over the evil canadians! :handclap:

That's an utterly horrible photoshop job.

I wonder how you can say that a player is nothing special if you haven't seen him.. Never mind. It'll be an interesting game for sure. Hopefully not too defensive minded, like that SWE - FIN farce of a game.

I think Swedes can win this game.

Russia won against Sweden but lets not forget... Sweden did not dress a few players. Kenny Jonsson was one of them. There was someone else I do not remember.
We rested Jönsson, Hedström, Warg and Backlund (we played our 3rd goalie, since Henriksson was sick on the game day).

We all know Sweden doesn't have their best players in this tournament, but the team that has been assembled has been solid. I don't understand the attitudes from some Swedes that they'll be toast against Canada. Sure, Canada are the favorites, as they should be, but I don't think this game is going to be a blow-out. Sweden has a fair shot at advancing despite the absence of marquee names.

We all know Sweden doesn't have their best players in this tournament, but the team that has been assembled has been solid. I don't understand the attitudes from some Swedes that they'll be toast against Canada. Sure, Canada are the favorites, as they should be, but I don't think this game is going to be a blow-out. Sweden has a fair shot at advancing despite the absence of marquee names.

It's not like Canada has their best team there either.

It's not like Canada has their best team there either.

Well, to clearify the whole point.
Canada has 21 NHL players on their roster, Sweden has only 1.


As for the game, 6-2 to Canada. I think it will be a walk in the park.

Like its needed. Shane Doan makes more money alone then the entire Swedish roster combined. You might even throw in the entire staff and it wouldn't make a diffrence. We saw for several decades that amatures don't got a chance against pro's.

If Sweden can keep it from gooing double digits against I am very happy.

This game got one purpose, to give these 24 swedish amatures a opertunity to get their 15 seconds of fame, a story, of how they once played on the big scene, to tell their grandchildren.

Like David vs a swedish Goliat, who doesn't like physical stuff and will try a peaceful way, we will get eaten alive.

I think that if this was golf,you'd be accused of sand-bagging.

The coach is stupid!

How's canada favourite to win this game? I don't get it. Sweden played better than Canada in this tournament.

People from Sweden are saying Canada will win and we have 1% chance because if they win. they'll say you guys were favs and we beat you.

STOP IT!

This is going to be a great game, GO CANADA GO!!!!!!!!!!!!! :clap:

So is the game at 8 or 9 pacific?

So is the game at 8 or 9 pacific?It's at 7 AM ET, so...

It's at 7 AM ET, so...

Well TSN says 8am, but does that include pre-game?

Well TSN says 8am, but does that include pre-game?

I think Systemfel is either talking about the Russia/Finland game or is making a miscalculation in terms of time zone. The Canada game is starting at 9 AM Pacific (this has been the usual time for the late games in this tournament).

Well, to clearify the whole point.
Canada has 21 NHL players on their roster, Sweden has only 1.


As for the game, 6-2 to Canada. I think it will be a walk in the park.

How many of those Swedish players would be playing in the NHL if they were Canadian? The majority of Sweden's players I'm sure are NHL calibre, but no NHL team is going to bring a guy over from Sweden just to be a career 3rd or 4th liner with no higher potential when they could just have a Canadian guy do the same job or give the roster spot to a young developing player.

It's not like Canada has their best team there either.

Because of depth and number of players available, Canada still have a better team(on paper).

With who or in what line has Justin Williams played.

Hey...

Wait...so he hasn't seen him, but he can comment on Toews performance? Sounds like a smart guy.

Wait...so he hasn't seen him, but he can comment on Toews performance? Sounds like a smart guy.

Smart enough to win both the Olympic and IHWC gold the same year. :sarcasm:

Anyway, i think that was his point, it's a contradictive statement.

Hey, they only scored 5 against Switzerland.

That was before the PO's.

All I am saying is that if Canada shows up, this game could end 20-0, even 30-0, they can't loose this game.

That was before the PO's.

All I am saying is that if Canada shows up, this game could end 20-0, even 30-0, they can't loose this game.

Your statements just keeps getting more and more ridiculous. In what world would this game end 20-0? I'll eat my own cat if that happens... :shakehead

I think Systemfel is either talking about the Russia/Finland game or is making a miscalculation in terms of time zone. The Canada game is starting at 9 AM Pacific (this has been the usual time for the late games in this tournament).:biglaugh: I just thought I was posting in the RUS-FIN GDT. Sorry 'bout that.

If Sweden can play defense as they did against Finland and offense as they did a Slovakia they have a chance.

If they reverse it it'll be a blowout ..

But I'm in a good mood today, 4 - 2 Sweden.

Your statements just keeps getting more and more ridiculous. In what world would this game end 20-0? I'll eat my own cat if that happens... :shakehead

So you can draw two conclusions, 1. I got the IQ of a fishstick 2. I am not entirely serious. ;)

So you can draw two conclusions, 1. I got the IQ of a fishstick 2. I am not entirely serious. ;)
Is this a multiple choice vote poll? ;)

So you can draw two conclusions, 1. I got the IQ of a fishstick 2. I am not entirely serious. ;)

Can I use a lifeline? :p:

So.. if we win this game we get the honor of losing the final against Finland, getting them their second gold the way they got their first. I'm not sure I want that to happen.

If Sweden can play defense as they did against Finland and offense as they did a Slovakia they have a chance.

If they reverse it it'll be a blowout ..

But I'm in a good mood today, 4 - 2 Sweden.

I thought sweden were decent at defending themself against Finland, and not a notch more. The amount of quality shots Finland got launched at net was vast. A red-hot Backlund was what made it a win, not a good defense.

So.. if we win this game we get the honor of losing the final against Finland, getting them their second gold the way they got their first. I'm not sure I want that to happen.

Don't be so negative!

If we go to the finals, we will win. Finland won't win against Sweden. :sarcasm:

Man, can't the game begin?

Sweden will be playing with the blue jersey today, Canada with the whites. That surely will make all the difference. :sarcasm:

Result: 1-4 for Canada
Shots: 18-42 for Canada

Might be a close game if the swedish goalie is on fire.

"Swedish secret weapon to stop the Canadian super line".

Erh?
Doan, Nash, Lombardi, 91, 99 and 135:th in NHL points this year, is a 'super line'?

Yes, they are very good hockey players, but 'super line'?
And J.Jönsson, Mårtensson, Thörnberg is a 'secret weapon'?

The same line who had exactly the same job against Hossa, Gaborik and Demitra the last game?

Medias, at least swedish media, is just pathetic in their desperate hype of the games.

But on the other hand, maybe that's better than media not writing.

This is going to be a good one.
Sweden - Canada games are my favorites.

Nash is gonna step it up.

I demand bloodshed!

Canada shall spank Sweden into submission.

I hope.

Swedish commentators said it's 5-5 between Swe and Can in WCs.

Dayum Nash.

Noooo!

TV3 has Leif effing Boork as expert, can't he stay in Gävle and just shut the eff up.

Blarp!

Anyway, Go Sweden Go!

Go Sweden!

Boorken knows hockey.

Our TV3 has hired Irbe (former goalie) as an expert to chat in between the periods

Look at the PP! Damn its great.

Boorken knows hockey.

Quite possible, but he can't comment hockey.

Is there an audio feed to this game?

mms://a846.l3156036845.c31560.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/846/31560/v0001/reflector:36845%2036845%26akcp=31560%26akserial=84 6%26
fp=v001%20-

Copy and paste into wmp.

Is there an audio feed to this game?

There is even a video feed. go to www.tsn.ca

I hope russian hockey fans won't ignore both tomorrow's games. This game lacks some audience support

There is even a video feed. go to www.tsn.ca

I tried that earlier and a message detected my internet connection was outside of Canada and that was that.

mms://a846.l3156036845.c31560.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/846/31560/v0001/reflector:36845%2036845%26akcp=31560%26akserial=84 6%26
fp=v001%20-

Copy and paste into wmp.

Thank you.

I tried that earlier and a message detected my internet connection was outside of Canada and that was that.

Well, Gozer gave us a link which works fine

mms://a846.l3156036845.c31560.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/846/31560/v0001/reflector:36845%2036845%26akcp=31560%26akserial=84 6%26

Both teams doing a good job defensively.

Well, Gozer gave us a link which works fine

mms://a846.l3156036845.c31560.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/846/31560/v0001/reflector:36845%2036845%26akcp=31560%26akserial=84 6%26

Got it. It's working perfectly.

SCOOOOOOOOOOOORES :clap:

Cammalleri!

Nice.

the game seems to be so quiet without viewers

Toews!
2-0

Good goal, but it's looking a bit odd.

The physical game is almost totally absent.

But good hockey.

SCOOOOOOOOOOORES :clap:

WOW what a goal.

2-0 CANADA :)

Toews :clap:

2:0 CAN :amazed:

Jordan Staal with his first point of the championships.

Sweet goal.

Toews 1 Backstrom 0

Great will and arrogancy from Toews. That is the way how goals are made.

YEEEEEEEAH :clap: GO CANADA!

Oh boy. I hope this doesn't turn into a blowout.

Impressed with the strength Toews showed on that goal.

At least we see a lots of goals :D

Hahaha, finally another team gets penalized for being strong.

Oh boy. I hope this doesn't turn into a blowout.

After what SWE did to Latvia... :rant:

PP again :yo:

Thats NOT a penalty!

Stralman "Phanufed" Phanuef :yo:

Toews>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bäckström

Toews>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bäckström

x10

Blackhawks are lucky. 3rd pick in the draft.

Toews>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bäckström

A bit hard to compare those two. Backstrom is a playmaker and Toews is a scorer. Feels like comparing Thornton and St Louis. Both are good players but they have different strengths

I know the score but I have to say that I like the way Strålman plays, esp on the pp.

The Jönsson bros are what they are, but Strålman has been very good.

x10

Blackhawks are lucky. 3rd pick in the draft.

Another Crosby style kid. Where is Ruutu to teach them a lesson? ;)

what is Stralman's sweater number?

Think its 4


b000000 ..... 3-0

Eric Stall!

3-0

beauty goal by Staal :clap:

Staal 3:0 like ***?

Toews is looking great. Definitely playing better than J. Staal.

What a pretty goal by Eric Staal. Great display.

ERIC STAAL YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH :handclap: :handclap:

A bit hard to compare those two. Backstrom is a playmaker and Toews is a scorer. Feels like comparing Thornton and St Louis. Both are good players but they have different strengths

When one player has impressed throughout the tournament and one has not, the comparison is easy to make.

Staal 3-0.

Question: Am I crazy or did there used to be a rule in international hockey that you couldn't win faceoffs with your feet?

Think its 4


b000000 ..... 3-0

yes Stralman is #4

Sweden, I demand sme honour? Please, shed some blood!

Hockey Canada has to start fostering skill because our players simply don't have what it takes :teach:

:sarcasm:

A bit hard to compare those two. Backstrom is a playmaker and Toews is a scorer. Feels like comparing Thornton and St Louis. Both are good players but they have different strengths

Not really i'd say Toews has a better scoring touch than Backstrom but Toews is still mainly a set up guy. 5 of Toews' 7 points so far have been assists. Also most of his points in the NCAA this year were assists.

Thats a beauty for a save. Cmon Sweden, make this game interesting.


PP TIME! :handclap:

Nice save by Ward.

It'd be nice if Sweden joined Canada in the rink and played Hockey in the remaining periods.

Swedes get a PP to start the 2nd.

The Swedes have looked so passive in the first. That's gonna have to change if they want to make a game out of this. Hopefully Canada doesn't sit back now. The situation is dangerous, a healthy lead for Canada going to the intermission, Swedish PP coming up. Complacency could creep in for Canada. hopefully that doesn't happen though.

How to beat Sweden: Play like Sweden, but use better players. :)

Good Canadian boy Eric Staal with a good Canadian goal. That's how you play the game, I think the Swedes ought to hire more Canadians and learn how to play Canadian hockey.

:sarcasm:

This remainds me a games against countries like Denmark & Norway :D

Not really i'd say Toews has a better scoring touch than Backstrom but Toews is still mainly a set up guy. 5 of Toews' 7 points so far have been assists.

You might be right, i just got that feeling that Toews is a scorer more of a playmaker

I am really impressed with this team Canada. Solid in all areas combined with some creativity and finishing skill. Don't think we stand a chance in the final, sadly.

I am really impressed with this team Canada. Solid in all areas combined with some creativity and finishing skill. Don't think we stand a chance in the final, sadly.

Actually, Finland winning may improve Canada's chances if they make it that far. Coming into this tournament I wasn't all that pleased with the roster, it didn't look strong and it could have been a lot stronger, but man have they proved me wrong. Good display so far boys.

Toews !!!

Could the 'hawks finally get out of the gutter?

Question: Am I crazy or did there used to be a rule in international hockey that you couldn't win faceoffs with your feet?

Definitely used to be. Is it no more?

Thats a beauty for a save. Cmon Sweden, make this game interesting.


PP TIME! :handclap:

It looks like it looks but haven't given this one up yet.

They've turned games around before.

At least it's quite good hockey.

Toews !!!

Could the 'hawks finally get out of the gutter?

If they actually get him signed, sign a 1st/borderline 1st line centre and Ruutu carries over his form for Finland they will have a chance.

Interesting note:

After Canadas head-coach complained about the, obvious?, puck-out penalty - sweden has been awarded a couple of really weak penalties... :help:

This could get ugly, or even uglier ;), though, as both Backlund and our defense have played, ehrm, as themselves :(

Eric Stål, funny how the best Scandinavian on the ice plays for CANADA!!!!

Actually, Finland winning may improve Canada's chances if they make it that far.

I'm Finnish ;)

When one player has impressed throughout the tournament and one has not, the comparison is easy to make.

Staal 3-0.

Toews play with established NHLers, Bäckström plays with one thirdlinde NHL grinder, and by SEL measurement, - good player in Hedström.

Canada will win this easily. This time, the "NHL" wins big time, regardless of Nyströms homerism.

Anyway, a very boring game, hockey without a crowd is like eating steak without ketchup.

Looks like i won't need to clean Avenyn this year. ;)

Thats a beauty for a save. Cmon Sweden, make this game interesting.


PP TIME! :handclap:

Nah, how about Canada score a few more goals? ;)

Actually, Finland winning may improve Canada's chances if they make it that far. Coming into this tournament I wasn't all that pleased with the roster, it didn't look strong and it could have been a lot stronger, but man have they proved me wrong. Good display so far boys.

same here. in the roster thread from the pre tournament, i said something along the lines of "disgusting roster". im surprised, they're growing well and coming to together nicely.

Who is the third player on the J. Staal - Toews line?

Who is the third player on the J. Staal - Toews line?

Eric Staal?

Definitely used to be. Is it no more?

Well I saw a faceoff this game where both Sweden and Canada were scrambling for the puck with their feet, and I believe I've seen it happen in earlier Canada games as well.

I guess I should look it up on the iihf site.

Backlund is getting seriously exposed. The 1st goal is nothing to talk about, bad PK if anything. Nobody getting in the lane.

Though on Towes goal he have to get his pad along the ice. Like 85% of the goals are scored along the ice, you have to take that away, especially there when Towes got no chance to get the puck up. Doesn't look so bad, but its extremely bad.

Backlund also managed to basically not cover anything in the net on Staal's goal. How about not making the move liked 20 feet before Staal got to the net? You can never make the first move in a situation like that. Staal scored 99 out of 100 times on a breakaway when Backlund plays like that. He could easily have deked him too when he is down on the knees that far out.

Defenitly two costly rookie misstakes.

Overall a big problem for Sweden have been that the players who are supposed to transport the puck up ice aren't dooing it good enough, often getting caught on the attacking blueline.

I don't think its over though, we are bound to get some PP's after three phantom calls for Canada. Need to have some luck though.

At the same time, I don't care all that much about this game, as long as the winner beats the Finns tomorrow... :D

Question: Am I crazy or did there used to be a rule in international hockey that you couldn't win faceoffs with your feet?

Not crazy, you can't use your feet, unless the puck is touched first.

Eric Staal?

No he's playing with Cammalleri and Williams i think. They said the Toews - J. Staal was the 4th line so maybe it's Chimera.

Toews interviews well, seems like a classy kid.

The lines as far as I can tell are:

Nash - Lombardi - Doan
Williams - Staal - Cammaleri
McClement - Mayers - Chimera
J. Staal - Toews - Armstrong

And the first goal was by Williams, not Cammalleri. He tipped it in.

Who is the third player on the J. Staal - Toews line?

Armstrong.

Hmm, now tsn has the goal by Cammalleri. Replays showed Williams tipped it in. The commentators thought so too. Guess we'll just have to wait and see what stands.

Yeah they just said that Armstrong is the other guy on the J. Staal - Toews line.

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Hmm, now tsn has the goal by Cammalleri. Replays showed Williams tipped it in. The commentators thought so too. Guess we'll just have to wait and see what stands.

Pretty sure the graphic during the game came up as Williams' goal but maybe i am going crazy.

Ola I think you're a bit unfair to Backlund. The Canadian team is just better on all positions, and it shows. Our only hope to win this game was for Canada to play over agressive and let us dominate the game positionally. Andy Murray is too smart to let that happen.

Eric Stål, funny how the best Scandinavian on the ice plays for CANADA!!!!

Is he really?
Staal could just as well be german/dutch in origin.

Anyone who actually knows?

Is he really?
Staal could just as well be german/dutch in origin.

Anyone who actually knows?

I'm pretty sure I read it's Danish. Or maaaybe Dutch. :)

SWE should teach those kids a lesson or two. Although you lack NHL players, I still believe you can pull it off

If any1 here is familiar with these three: Sweden, hockey and luck... all those three seem to combine very often. Thus, a 3-0 lead for Canada, might not be enough. Swedes will outluck any team, any time. Just look at yesterday's ANA-DET, the swedish luck factor won it... and we Finns if any, know what is this Swedish luck. ;p

Canada seems damn strong. I was hoping Sweden would've lured and lucked their way out of this pair, dreamfinal for me. ;)

The luck factor showed itself!!

edit: And the luck factor really exists. It really does, with a couple of exceptions.

Davidsson 1:3 Finally!!!

If any1 here is familiar with these three: Sweden, hockey and luck... all those three seem to combine very often. Thus, a 3-0 lead for Canada, might not be enough. Swedes will outluck any team, any time. Just look at yesterday's ANA-DET, the swedish luck factor won it... and we Finns if any, know what is this Swedish luck. ;p

Canada seems damn strong. I was hoping Sweden would've lured and lucked their way out of this pair, dreamfinal for me. ;)

Nah, the luck part only shows up when playing Finland, for some reason.

Like being down 1 - 5 in a WC semi ...

If any1 here is familiar with these three: Sweden, hockey and luck... all those three seem to combine very often. Thus, a 3-0 lead for Canada, might not be enough. Swedes will outluck any team, any time. Just look at yesterday's ANA-DET, the swedish luck factor won it... and we Finns if any, know what is this Swedish luck. ;p

Canada seems damn strong. I was hoping Sweden would've lured and lucked their way out of this pair, dreamfinal for me. ;)

And what happens?

hahaha 3-1

What a fluke. :biglaugh:

Dammit! C'mon Canada hang on and score some more goals!

Zambonidriver², you just saved Sweden's honour

Hah, lucky, lucky goal. Totally undeserved.

Sweden, hockey and luck...
I'm so in love with myself, so I had to quote myself. Really, nothing new on Sweden's 1st goal for me. Un*nbelieveable. :shakehead

What about Canada's first goal bouncing off of William's thigh? :P

Nah, the luck part only shows up when playing Finland, for some reason.

Like being down 1 - 5 in a WC semi ...

And stand corroded.

Obviously it also applies when Finland is already cleared for the upcoming final.

Nah, the luck part only shows up when playing Finland, for some reason.

Like being down 1 - 5 in a WC semi ...
You should know the rules, don't you make things up. Any 5-6 loss to Sweden in WHC semi's, haven't happened. As well as my memory serves me. :sarcasm:

Oh and, below the belt. Dude, come on.

What is it with you Swedes lately? Try scoring some proper goals instead of these fluke ones (Detroit's Swedes las night, Finland game last Sunday and now this). :rant:

Are these refs gonna call ANYTHING against the Swedes?

Even if Canada is trying to draw penalties, they are all legitimate.

Sweden hasn't done anything to be penalized for in this period.

Sweden doesn't win any pucks against the boards. That's where we usually makes dangerous plays. It really seems that Andy Murray really have researched Sweden. 12hrs of footage I heard he wached.

Unnecessary penalty by SWE

What is it with you Swedes lately? Try scoring some proper goals instead of these fluke ones (Detroit's Swedes las night, Finland game last Sunday and now this). :rant:

And Nylander's hat trick on Lethonen? :)

Any goals are good as long as we win.

I'm pretty sure I read it's Danish. Or maaaybe Dutch. :)

The city that he is from, Thunder Bay, was mostly settled by Finns and Italians, but also quite a few Danes, Norwegians and Swedes. Thunder Bay is only 45min from Minnesota, which is where a great number of Swedes emmigrated to in the 1900's. The Germans and Dutch mostly settled in Southern Ontario, which is very far from Thunder Bay.

It's hard to say from just a name, but I'd say almost for sure he's a Scandy, plus he does look like a man of steel, wouldn't you say!

4:1 Swedish tactical mistake = arrogance

Canada > Jönsson's...

Justice has been served. :naughty:

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SCOOOOOOOOOOORES :handclap: :handclap: :handclap:

And that is why you never get too fancy on a 3 on 2 when you are killing a penalty.

4:1

Feces, now I'm getting worried.

it's gonna be Finland vs Canada :D

Zambonidriver², open your mouth about Swedish factor of luck, and Swedes will score again

It's hard to say from just a name, but I'd say almost for sure he's a Scandy, plus he does look like a man of steel, wouldn't you say!

So he's a dane? :)

Zambonidriver², open your mouth about Swedish factor of luck, and Swedes will score again
I've tried my best. Also we're having some good conversations about history of hockey (concentrating on The Swedish Luck Factor), via PM's... but is my best enough? :naughty:

Great cycle by Canada.

I've tried my best. Also we're having some good conversations about history of hockey (concentrating on The Swedish Luck Factor), via PM's... but is my best enough? :naughty:

It has to be public, if you want it to come true :teach:

So far, very huge mistakes by Swedish team. Good game by CAN

it's gonna be Finland vs Canada :D

Which means that Finland has a good chance to get another gold :)

Some of the Swedish D doesn't measure up.
But I remain impressed by Strålman (or Rayman maybe :)).

I'd love to see him with Toronto next season.

Which means that Finland has a good chance to get another gold :)

Some of the Swedish D doesn't measure up.
But I remain impressed by Strålman (or Rayman maybe :)).

I'd love to see him with Toronto next season.

Finland:1
Canada:7

Book it.

Finland:1
Canada:7

Book it.

I don't think so.
They reserve that kind of collapses for games against Sweden.

2-3 Finland.

Strålman is the only swedish player showing up so far.

Enström is brutal, he makes hard passes to his teammates, and often finds himself lost. Johansson is to sloppy and arrogant with the passes aswell.

This was expected, however. The only good coming out of this is that the "SEL- equivalent-with-the-NHL"-fanatics finally get silenced.

Finland is a better team then Sweden, but there is no way Canada won't win that final, IMO.

Hopefully they can fight for their honor in the third, getting some goals.

Finland:1
Canada:23

Book it.

Fixed

It looks like the Canadians are not even interested in scoring sometimes, like that long shift with Doan and Nash where they just kept the puck in the swedish zone as long as they wanted. They know that they will win this game, and win comfortable, as long as they play a decent game the rest of the way.

Seriously, what is Enström doing on the roster? In the SEL, he often shines, but i understand why now...

In SEL he is playing with the best defensive d-man in Timander, which allows him to go on his private little ventures. If he doesn't pull his act together, there is not a snowballs chance in hell he makes it to the NHL.

So he's a dane? :)

Dane, Swede, Norwegian, they're all the same aren't they!

The only good coming out of this is that the "SEL- equivalent-with-the-NHL"-fanatics finally get silenced.



I agree. It will hopefully shut them up good, for a while. Until next year of course, when they creep out of their dens and start up the same idiotic argument all over again.

You really like snowballs in warm places....

And I think Enström har been the worst player in Tre Kronor this WC. Mistakes, mistakes and more mistakes all over all the time in all games. There's some good, but not that much.

Mr Kanadensisk: Is Canadian and American the same?
Same difference.

so when will Finland/Canada be on?

Åkerman makes terrible decisions with the puck in his own and the neutral zone. Offensively he's okay.

so when will Finland/Canada be on?

Tommorow at 20:15 Moscow time so that's 5:15 GMT and 12:15 EST i think.

You really like snowballs in warm places....

And I think Enström har been the worst player in Tre Kronor this WC. Mistakes, mistakes and more mistakes all over all the time in all games. There's some good, but not that much.

Nice to see that i am not alone in that regard. I think most swedish posters here agree that he clearly have been the worst swedish player throughout the tournament, especially when you consider the amount of ice time he gets. I guess you could make a case for Kahnberg, Mårtensson and Emwall aswell.

so guess most finns are happy with this result

FiNAL sunday:

20:15 - Russian
19:15 - Finnish
18:15 - Swedish
17:15 - British

Mr Kanadensisk: Is Canadian and American the same?


Well yes, but we're on top!;)

Brain fart by B-Å.G to not bring Tellan

I don't understand where Sweden's energy as gone? They are slow and without confidence. This is so far the worst game in this tournament for Sweden, with the Denmark game coming in second place.
They should play like they did against the Russians.

Lombardi is so freaking fast.

Backlund cost Sweden 2 goals.

Dane, Swede, Norwegian, they're all the same aren't they!

Erh no.
Danes are a bunch of hippies who's left no impression on history, except for Saxons, Normandy and the modern UK.

Norwegians are some wierd comedians who's left no impressions on history except for Iceland, Greenland, Ireland, western UK and assorted islands in the atlantic.

Swedes are a bunch of boring bureaucrats and ombudsmen whose only impression on history is founding Russia.

Sweden doesn't have good goalies in this WC. Some good games against lesser countries doesn't make them Gold worthy. Backlund has been overrated this week.

Tommy Salo needed :D

Tommy Salo needed :D

He's busy with Kungälv's preseason practice :)

Booring!

Nice save by Backlund

Sweden has to pick it up if they want to make this any closer.

EDIT: Penalty to Sweden

Booring!

Yep, this game is dead.

Luckily it's the ESC tonigth, at least we can beat Finland in Hartwall Arena in something.

Not mentioning the non-existant 6-5 loss.

I haven't been more dissapointed in Team Sweden ever. I terrible terrible game this one. They play like they have had games 3 days in a row. They wouldn't beat Germany like this.

Idiotic by BÅG to not make quick changes. The play has looked exactly the same since the first period.

Damn Williams, watch that stick

Idiotic by BÅG to not make quick changes. The play has looked exactly the same since the first period.

Canada is 'home team', I'm not ready to hang Gus just yet.

Yep, this game is dead.

Luckily it's the ESC tonigth, at least we can beat Finland in Hartwall Arena in something.

Not mentioning the non-existant 6-5 loss.

Hehe, im laughing my ass off, if that aint happen :biglaugh: Maybe this is ours day ;)

Sorry to bother you guys, but is Kenny Johansson (sp?) playing, i swear i heard his name??

My wishlist for the remainder of this game: A real, bonafied swedish goal scoring opportunity. Something that makes Ward work a bit.

I haven't been more dissapointed in Team Sweden ever. I terrible terrible game this one. They play like they have had games 3 days in a row. They wouldn't beat Germany like this.

They wouldn`t have beaten Germany any way.

Erh no.
Danes are a bunch of hippies who's left no impression on history, except for Saxons, Normandy and the modern UK.

Norwegians are some wierd comedians who's left no impressions on history except for Iceland, Greenland, Ireland, western UK and assorted islands in the atlantic.

Swedes are a bunch of boring bureaucrats and ombudsmen whose only impression on history is founding Russia.

Didn't the Swedes also popularize naked bungy jumping?

Another Stupid Penalty For 4:00 Minutes. You Cant Do This Against Finland Guys

Yep, this game is dead.

Luckily it's the ESC tonigth, at least we can beat Finland in Hartwall Arena in something.

Not mentioning the non-existant 6-5 loss.

I'm not a fan of Eurovision though

Sorry to bother you guys, but is Kenny Johansson (sp?) playing, i swear i heard his name??

Jönsson, and he is, and playing well.
But as always, you won't see him.

A common effect of a solid stay-at-home D.

Result: 1-4 for Canada
Shots: 18-42 for Canada

Might be a close game if the swedish goalie is on fire.

Lets see if my guess becomes true.

Another Stupid Penalty For 4:00 Minutes. You Cant Do This Against Finland Guys

Yeah exactly, they better watch those!

Canada's sticks have been in the way during the entire game.

Sweden pressng when 3 min left to play. That's the spirit... NOT

Strålman has been the best Swedish D-man during this tourney. By far, I'd say. Kenny is close, but the rest is waaaaay behind.

Going For Gold tomorrow, OH CANADA!!!!!!!!! :handclap: :yo:

Strålman, K.Jönsson, and Hörnqvist where the best swedish players in this tournament, IMO.

Neither BÅG or our players wanted to win this game vs Canada. Our coachingstaff didn't even try to make changes, pull the goalie, nothing. They didn't even try. This was a shameful effort from the swedish team.

Canada deserves all the credit, it was a long time ago i last saw this kind of one-sided affair. It will be a huge surprise if they don't win the final, IMO.

Strålman has been the best Swedish D-man during this tourney. By far, I'd say. Kenny is close, but the rest is waaaaay behind.

I agree. The people that said that this team largely lacked quality defenders, good goaltending and intensive forwards were 100% right.

Congrats Canada, well deserved. I haven't seen a swedish team this badly outplayed since the Czechs won 6-1 in the World Cup.

Worst Game I have ever seen Sweden play. Counting the Euro Hockey Tour games where the player quality is even lower. Sweden didn't even try. BÅG did nothing. Disgrace.

Canada, go for gold!

I'm not a fan of Eurovision though

No, that **** blows.

Canada, go for gold!

No way.
Finnish arses are our's and our's alone to kick.

Go Suomi Go.

Let the championship rest in peace on the other side of the baltic sea.

I read in a swedish newspaper that swedes already reserved a marketplace for celebrations. Will there be a huge 4th place celebration?

Good job Canada, see you in the final tomorrow. I just hope Finland wins, or my wife (canadian) will rub it in too much :naughty:

No way.
Finnish arses are our's and our's alone to kick.

Go Suomi Go.

Let the championship rest in peace on the other side of the baltic sea.

Well tomorrow the Finnish arses will be ours to kick, sorry! At least I hope we kick their arses lol.

I read in a swedish newspaper that swedes already reserved a marketplace for celebrations. Will there be a huge 4th place celebration?

Good job Canada, see you in the final tomorrow. I just hope Finland wins, or my wife (canadian) will rub it in too much :naughty:

I hope she does get to rub it in lol. :naughty: :p:

GO CANADA GO!

(not tomorrow :p: )

I read in a swedish newspaper that swedes already reserved a marketplace for celebrations. Will there be a huge 4th place celebration?


They had to.

You can't take over a major official place in downtown stockholm without some previous planning.

A bronze is still possible

And hey, the national soccer team had a big celebration of a bronze in -94.

GO CANADA GO!

(not tomorrow :p: )

Yes tomorrow :p: ;)

What a boring game. Sweden showed no heart at all.

I read in a swedish newspaper that swedes already reserved a marketplace for celebrations. Will there be a huge 4th place celebration?

:D

Gnah.

Canada had their issues with Shane Doan.

Can we please have a captian that speak swedish?
Kenny is a wonderful hockeyplayer but his accent is horrible.

Worst possible scanian combined with 10 years in NA.

Congrats Canada, well deserved. I haven't seen a swedish team this badly outplayed since the Czechs won 6-1 in the World Cup.

Agreed. They didn't stand a chance in this game. The difference would be that we had a lot more skilled players back then. :)

Yes tomorrow :p: ;)

Nope, 3-0 for Finland, Lehtonen 55 saves :yo:

Wow, I guess everything Bengt-Åke Gustafsson touches doesn't turn into gold after all.

Wow, I guess everything Bengt-Åke Gustafsson touches doesn't turn into gold after all.

Well, at times, he isn't touching anything at all. :shakehead

Well, at times, he isn't touching anything at all. :shakehead

Rumours from a friend of the family who works at a hotel that hosts the swedish team say that they are one of the few teams who have requested full TV rights, including adult tv, so maybe he will be goldmember? :) J/K

Rumours from a friend of the family who works at a hotel that hosts the swedish team say that they are one of the few teams who have requested full TV rights, including adult tv, so maybe he will be goldmember? :) J/K

Just a little touch of home.

NY cable is nothing compared to Swedish standard feed.

Yes, one snap up from standard feed and you've got hard core sex, after midnight at least.

But of course, no voilence.
Bare breasts, check, erected penises, check, copulation, check, blood spatter, no way.

I have to say that I'm quite proud to be swedish in that situation.

Killing people is regarded as worse than creating new ones.

Canada did everything right, Sweden did everything wrong. We had to repair our bad defensive mistakes from the previous games and we didn't. Canada outclassed Sweden in every aspect of the game, the Swedes didn't even skate.

Enström should have been a healthy scratch four games ago and it shows Jörgen Jönsson has had a bad season in SEL, he has plain out sucked in the offensive zone. Backlund still played solid in the net though.

Alot of criticism to the Swedish coaching staff, they didn't lift a finger to change the game. They never scratched the bad players and never went down to 3 lines. Perhaps because we didn't have any top lines? The biggest mistake though was not pulling our goalie on the 4 minute PP to play 6 on 4. For crying out loud, what is there to lose with 5 minutes left and down 3 goals? BÅ had already given up.

I'm very disappointed by the Swedish players not wanting to show up. The commentators talked about the empty stadium with about zero people in the crowd, but it was the same for the Canadians.

Have to give Canada credit though for making the Swedish team look so bad. And also, I think I've never seen a Canadian team play as European-like hockey like they did.

Canada didn't everything right, Sweden did everything wrong. We had to repair our bad defensive mistakes from the previous games and we didn't. Canada outclassed Sweden in every aspect of the games, the Swedes didn't even skate.

Enström should have been a healthy scratch four games ago and it shows Jörgen Jönsson has had a bad season in SEL, he has plain out sucked in the offensive zone. Backlund still played solid in the net though.

Alot of criticism to the Swedish coaching staff, they didn't lift a finger to change the game. They never scratched the bad players and never went down to 3 lines. Perhaps because we didn't have any top lines? The biggest mistake though was not pulling our goalie on the 4 minute PP to play 6 on 4. For crying out loud, what is there to lose with 5 minutes left and down 3 goals? BÅ had already given up.

I'm very disappointed by the Swedish players not wanting to show up. The commentators talked about the empty stadium with about zero people in the crowd, but it was the same for the Canadians.

Have to give Canada credit though for making the Swedish team look so bad. And also, I think I've never seen a Canadian team play as European-like hockey like they did.

Good summary.

But I'd still call Anton Strålman (and Kenny) as good players.

If Toronto wants to drop him into AHL they are nuts.

He'll steal Kronners' Norrises.

And also, I think I've never seen a Canadian team play as European-like hockey like they did.

Get used to it.

There isn't any room in the NHL for slow-skating neanderthals anymore.

Even grinders like Lombardi, Mayers and Co. can skate like the wind.

It's good to see as a Canadian.

Get used to it.

There isn't any room in the NHL for slow-skating neanderthals anymore.

Even grinders like Lombardi, Mayers and Co. can skate like the wind.

It's good to see as a Canadian.i choked on my coke... no one has ever mistaken Lombardi for a grinder before

A bit hard to compare those two. Backstrom is a playmaker and Toews is a scorer. Feels like comparing Thornton and St Louis. Both are good players but they have different strengths
Toews is an excellent playmaker, didn't you see him at the WJC?