WC QF: May 10th GDT - USA vs. Finland

I keep up with the GDT:s today and start the other game thread for today, since the game is bound to start in about 1 hour.

I think it'll be a very interesting game, with a United States team that has played better in WHC since a long time, according to me. Finland is Europe's own transatlantic team, so perhaps we will see a quite physical game this afternoon/day, depending on where you live.

United States has added Zach Parise from NJ Devils and Ryan Callahan from NY Rangers.

http://www.iihf.com/Hydra/Tournaments_07/output/WS/hydra.iihf.com/113/

This game will probably be streamed online, just as the Canada - Switzerland game was, if you can't watch it on TV.

Finland will go through, IMO. They will need a very good performance from Lehtonen to pull it off though.

In order to win USA Finland needs to improve the exploitation of scoring chances that has sucked so far in this tournament.

Thanks for game talk Chimp.

Team USA is hungrier that it has been for a while. Good legs; and the s(kill) is there too. ( I meant finishing touch). These guys are serious this time.

And, as you mentioned, USA added Paris and Callahan to the roster. The thing is: are they ready to play ? Both are world class players, but it might be too soon for both. Or, do they just mess up the team chemistry ?

Finland has also been coining up its roster all the way. It has been changing pretty much for all of the games. Tell me when has that been any good for the team. The answer is, of course, only if the team is Canada.

My prediction: Finland will physically dominate (after 2nd); they will control the pace of the game, trying as hard they can, but they will not score. USA will have those two necessary counter attacks they need; and will score on both.

But, that's just based to this year performances from both teams. Let the game begin.

And just to be kidding; Lehtonen will tip in the first one :)

This game will probably be streamed online, just as the Canada - Switzerland game was, if you can't watch it on TV.
For free?

I'm hoping for the U.S. but their defence has got to be a lot better than it was against Canada. It was non-existent.

For free?

You'll need sopcast but try this: http://myp2p.eu/NHL.htm

You'll need sopcast but try this: http://myp2p.eu/NHL.htm
Thanks, but my computer has had issues with sopcast in the past, so I don't think that'll work.

Anyone know of a radio feed online?

can't get the stream on tsn broadband...

The Swiss sopcast channel works and shows the game. Early PP for Finland.

Don't pass it Kallio!

Oooh what a chance for Finland! Nice skating to create the breakaway, didn't see who it was. Good save by Grahame.

The Swiss sopcast channel works and shows the game. Early PP for Finland.

Sorry, new to the sopcast thing...which channel is that? Thanks.

Oooh what a chance for Finland! Nice skating to create the breakaway, didn't see who it was. Good save by Grahame.

It was Mika Pyörälä. Piss poor execution though :shakehead

Nice two zone pass from USA, the Finnish defenseman felt he had to hook the American player (which he probably did). PP USA.

It's kind of hard to see which players who are involved in the plays, the commentator is speaking german and the picture is of course a little bit grainy. ;)

Sorry, new to the sopcast thing...which channel is that? Thanks.


If you go to that website and have Sopcast already installed you just have to click the play link. I had to download that VLC player for it to work though.

Side note, I thought Esche was on the team? When did he get taken off?

Nifty dekes by Lehtinen creates a good scoring chance on the PK for Finland. Grahame covered the lower part of the net and smothered the puck on the shot, which the Finnish player in front of the net really didn't get a lot of stick on.

USA answers with a dangerous oddman rush after the PP was over.

It's obvious both teams are playing for the win.

Panic time for Finland. Feels like we are playing the Czech's.

Chimp, I appreciate the updates :handclap:

Side note, I thought Esche was on the team? When did he get taken off?

Before the tourney started when Jason B was added; news article indicated Esche's son was sick at the time.

It's walrus time :walrus: 1-0 T.Ruutu!!

Before the tourney started when Jason B was added; news article indicated Esche's son was sick at the time.

Ah, ok. Thought he played a few games but I guess I was mistaken.

Finland scores! Tuomu Ruutu comes from nowhere and steals the puck from a battle at the left boards. He comes in with full speed and fires a wrister that Grahame perhaps should have had a piece of. USA cannot be satisfied with letting Ruutu stepping in that easily, although the opportunity didn't look that dangerous, it seemed like Grahame had full view of the shooter.

1-0 Finland.

Team Finland has been very impressive today on 6 vs. 5 situations.

Finland continues to put pressure on USA. They made it look like a 2 min PP out there, with several good scoring chances on onetimers against Grahame. He held his ground though and saved USA.

Finland drew a penalty because of the pressure and will continue with a 1:30 PP with the start of the 2nd period.

1-0 to Finland after 20 minutes of play.

Guess the refs ripped US with an offside call on a breakaway after a tunrover by the Finns shortly before the goal.
Unfortunately there was no replay.

anyway

GO USA!

Thanks, but my computer has had issues with sopcast in the past, so I don't think that'll work.

Anyone know of a radio feed online?

I recommend using TVAnts and Live Tv channel works a really good, although the commentary is in Russian.

Looked like it...I didn't see anyone offsides.

Good first period from the Finns. Hopefully they continue like that and K. Lehtonen doesn't allow an easy goal.

Go ahead like that Finns!

@TS: I'm sure it was no offside. US forward coming out of zone was clearly on the blueline

US looks erratic today ...

And I hate to say that Ryan Suter maybe is the worst player out there. Checks are late, passes unfocused and no control of the game on the PP.

Regroup guys!

GO USA !!!

Damn, lots of scoring chances, but Finns can't score for toffee. Those US breakaways are bound to get through at some point. Lots of shaky play by finnish D in their own end...nothing new there.

Overall it looked like we were marginally stronger in the 1st...

A succesful dump&chase from trio Ruutu - Koivu - Kallio in the goal. The whole trio seemed to know what to do and where to go after Koivu shot the puck deep into the U.S. defensive zone.

@TS: I'm sure it was no offside. US forward coming out of zone was clearly on the blueline

Well, I didn't see the replay but if you´re coming out from the offensive zone, the blueline is considered to be part of it.

(or at least that´s what i´ve understood)

okay i think that finland wins this easily. usa got a great team, talented fast offence and they can also tackle, but they still hasnt enough world class defenders or goaltenders so they would need their best players..

offtopic:

nice goal by ruutu. he is good player: strong and skillfull

i think that usa doesnt actually has enough motivation

Wow what a short-handed beauty by Tobias Petersen :clap:

omg usa made a great goal..

Well, I didn't see the replay but if you´re coming out from the offensive zone, the blueline is considered to be part of it.


Please what?! :amazed: .. I dunno to be honest .. can somebody confirm this?

What you mean is: when you penetrate the zone the blueline is NO part of the offensive zone but when you leave it it is?

LaRose is just a short handed machine.

Wake up Mikko!!

Is Callahan playing?

it seems that mikko and tuomo plays both very well, that pity ruutu has been broken so much

No Callahan around!


Wow, they produced more icings than scoring chances on that second PP

edit: better shut up

*** sarasvuo made a goal

Yeahhh!!! Saravo 2-1 :walrus:

1-2. Pekka Saravo :amazed:

Finns played a bad powerplay, they were in danger to receive a goal, instead of scoring!

But ok 2-1 Finland, Saravo scored! They play better 5 against 5 than in PP!

is koistinen playing??????????????

omg what a fast goal : S this game makes me angry

WOW WHAT A GOAL!!!

Great pass by Suter! Great play by Arnason!

GO USA !!!

Clap-clap-clap 2-2 Incredible goal!

is koistinen playing??????????????

Nope.

When you're watching in bad quality with a foreign announcer and no red light, it's hard to tell when someone scores. I thought Lehtonen stopped it.

yeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssss

Finally 3-2 :handclap:

Lehtinen had a great chance just before it.

3-2 Finland, proceeding from a big mistake from USA goalie Graham!

Holy **** Grahame...come on.

Wow!

Congrats Mr. John Grahasek :shakehead

3-2 Finns

Though, I guess it's not all on Grahame. He bailed himself out and got back into position and the US just couldn't clear.

:walrus: 3-2 Viuhkola.

What a chance for Lehtinen initially missing the empty net on a huge mistake by Grahame, thank god they eventually scored.

This score a goal, then let one in thing that the US has going on is not a good way to win hockey games.

Wow, LaRose has the 2nd most ice time of US forwards. Odd to see.

Hahahaah 3-3 Stempniak. What an exciting and eventful game so far.

So back and forth. Nice comebacks by the US each time

this is sick.. usa plays very very very very agressive and finland just hasent good defence enough

Great game now guys!!

Pace is up!

3-3 Stempniak! Finally a good defensive play by Albert before .. how lethargic and immobile this guy looks.

What did Keith Tkachuk say:" Stempniak will be a pure scorer in this league some day!"

looks like it!

GO USA!!

PP Finns now!

Sweet! Man, I wish I could watch this.

Odd how the penalties are in English but every other graphic they show is in Swiss

yeyeyeyeyeyeye GRAHAM IS A WEIRD GOALIE

**** yeah!!! I love you Kallio!! 4-3 :walrus:

What a shot!

Damn....Nice shot though. 4-3 Finland

4-3 Finland Kallio! I hope the Finns can finally manage to keep it now at least until the end of the second period!

Are there any D-men on the ice?

DAMN!!!

what a pee wee PK by the US.

First with 3 guys in the corner with all ice open .. then everyone is watching the puck and no one cared about Kallio!

Regroup guys!

GO USA!!!

Great hockey game!

Sweet mother of God what an insane game :biglaugh:

Uh, what did Ballard do to get a misconduct?

what a wild second period :yo:

Uh, what did Ballard do to get a misconduct?

Complaining on the referees I think ...

finland needs some tough defenders like väänänen, lydman, salo

poor John Grahame...

Odd how the penalties are in English but every other graphic they show is in Swiss

yes... in Swiss :shakehead

yes... in Swiss :shakehead

Hehe, isn't it odd that all posts on this forum is in english but his is in american? :D

yes... in Swiss :shakehead

Well what is the language called then? Russia speaks Russian, Japan speaks Japanese so I wasn't sure. No need to get all high and mighty.

The Swiss language, bwaha! They speak german and french in Switzerland.

Well what is the language called then? Russia speaks Russian, Japan speaks Japanese so I wasn't sure. No need to get all high and mighty.

Swiss German, Swiss French (Romande) or Swiss Italian. Raeto-Romanian and some other minor lingos.

Either one of these teams will be killed by Russian offence, poor poor defending all around and Grahame is costing Usa this game.

Still I'm calling this 7-6 for team Usa :)

Alright then, thank you. Never having been there, I wouldn't know.

Yes I thought the same - who will ever pass this querters will surely be eliminated by the Russians.

US has to pick up the aggressive forechecking again .. Finns can't handle it!

Horrible game. With this kinda 5 on 5 dominance Finland SHOULD have a comfortable lead by now, but the D seems to panic at times and really lose their positions.

USA is really using their chances well, thanks to our crappy defensemen.

How much time is left?

How much time is left?

Still a period to play.

What a strange game. First 10 US is no-where to be found; and after that they really started the fight.

When I was thinking this game, it was "put pressure on defense, both teams have a weak spot in there".

What I got was a scoring fest. Oh, dear ...

Don't mind too much though.

Those cheerleaders look like astronauts from some cheap 50's science fiction blockbuster movie.

Those cheerleaders look like astronauts from some cheap 50's science fiction blockbuster movie.

Yeah, I thought the same :D Like some 70's glitter disco gear/cross-country skiing overalls -hybrid :help:

Yeah, I thought the same :D Like some 70's glitter disco gear/cross-country skiing overalls -hybrid :help:
I think we have ourselves a decent movie title over here. "The Russian Glitter Disco Skier Astronauts from... the... tundra."

A cool thing though is that they play the goal songs themed by which country that scores.

And why do the Swiss keep calling the Finnish team "Scandinavians"?

Our defense is so good that there was no need to put Ville Koistinen in the roster?

Lehtonen injured?

did the game slow down some? and how would the Europeans keep things straight if each of the 50 American states adopted a different language? :D

when he saw stick, he dived instantly, and us pp

Eric Johnson has some good hands! Remarkable..

PP US!!

one of the last chances ... lets go boys!

Hutch with the sick blast

Sigh.....4-4 Insanely beutiful shot by Hutchinson. The US of A has scored some icredible goals in this game.

Scooooooooreees!!!!! 4-4

great pass by Aranson ... Hutch ties it!!!

I would have loved to see him that way on a more constant basis in Nashville ...

GO USA!

Sweet! Now let's get another one...

Is Jack Johnson playing? I haven't seen him all game

Nummelin injured, looks bad :cry:

Yeah he looked to be in some pain there. Probably the knee.

:shakehead
really bad luck for Finland, Nummelin out and if they have to play overtime, they lose for sure. I don't remember that Finland won a game in overtime!

Is Jack Johnson playing? I haven't seen him all game

No hasn't played a minute I think.

Eric with some ice time when the US were trailing.

And Pothier nearly costed the leade with that crappy pass from the corner to the slot.

Uuuuhh Stempniak nearly put them away! What a chance

-99 against Sweden. OT Win.

Over Time

Yeah, I've seen Erik out a bit but no Jack.

OT time

What are the OT/SO rules in the world championships?

Woah! Way too good scoring chance for USA with 12 seconds left for Finnish fans to sit calmly in their couches.

A shoot-out would be sweet.

Then again, it's never good to see a team lose the chance to play for a medal that way, but whatever.

4 vs 4 sudden death

-99 against Sweden. OT Win.

That was the big exception which only confirmes the rule, unfortunately!

Woah! Way too good scoring chance for USA with 12 seconds left for Finnish fans to sit calmly in their couches.

With Kari in net I'm sitting calmly as a hindu cow.

4 vs 4 sudden death
For how long?

What are the OT/SO rules in the world championships?
10 min OT 4 on 4 and then shootout I think. They should raise it to one period though I think.

More than that and the teams will be seriously hampered in the semifinal though.

The Diving Cole's show gets Usa PP goal. Entertaining but not too good game. Grahame should make one more blunder so Finns could win this one.

The Eurovision Song Contest has been cancelled due to the Hockey game going overtime.

Thanks guys :)

US had better score in those 10 minutes, because with Grahame in net I don't like their chances in a SO.

Give me USA :yo: :yo:

The Eurovision Song Contest has been cancelled due to the Hockey game going overtime.
I knew hockey had a good influence on society. ;)

Parise with a great scoring chance, I almost thought it was in.

Give me USA :yo: :yo:

Why? I don't think that USA is easier to play for Russia than Finland.

Parise hits the post.

What a game. I'd love to see a SWE-USA final, so hopefully the Finns don't show up in OT.

Why? I don't think that USA is easier to play for Russia than Finland.

I just want USA

Man bench Matt Greene .. this guys isn't winning battles right now can't skate :rant:

GO USA!

Canada can take either of these teams. We just need one of them to take out Russia.

Lehtinen sucks.

Why? I don't think that USA is easier to play for Russia than Finland.
Because Russia is one of those teams that Finland play at 150% capacity against no matter what. Sweden and Russia.
What a game. I'd love to see a SWE-USA final, so hopefully the Finns don't show up in OT.
And how are they going to get passed the Russian machine?

Go Finns! i got back from the work meetings just in time!!

For how long?

http://live82.ihwc.net/english/rules/

Because Russia is one of those teams that Finland play at 150% capacity against no matter what. Sweden and Russia.

That's an exageration. Sometimes they do sometims they don't.

usa is looking for shootout

That's an exageration. Sometimes they do sometims they don't.
I would at least say mostly they do. But of course, a little bit of exaggeration doesn't hurt. ;)

I want the strongest opposition for Russia. To be the best you have to beat the best.

I want the strongest opposition for Russia. To be the best you have to beat the best.

The best are not here. And these two teams are about the same.

This not only smells like, but reeks of a shootout.

Shootout it is.

Go **** yourself Vinneborg...

The best are not here. And these two teams are about the same.

I presume he was talking about the best teams AT the tournament.

Penalty shooting, that's not good for Finland!:shakehead

I want the strongest opposition for Russia. To be the best you have to beat the best.
Thats just stupid. We already lost Morozov.

The best are not here. And these two teams are about the same.

Let's start with these guys and go from there, if that's ok with you.

No confidence in Grahame in a shootout.

First time ever i wanted Berg to shoot... Did the ref lose his whistle for the OT or what?

Nummelin, Koivu, J.Ruutu...some of the best shootout-artists in the world.

No excuses, team Finland must win.

No confidence in Grahame in a shootout.
Me neither :cry:

Is it going to a SO now?

Thats just stupid. We already lost Morozov.

Why is this stupid? You want to prefer to play the easiest opponents on the way to the top?

First time ever i wanted Berg to shoot... Did the ref lose his whistle for the OT or what?
Seems like he swallowed it, yeah. It seems he didn't want a PP to decide the outcome of the game.

who's shooting?

Jarko Ruutu had some great shootout moves for Pittsburgh this year

Nummelin, Koivu, J.Ruutu...some of the best shootout-artists in the world.

No excuses, team Finland must win.

But unfortunately the Finns tend to suck if it's count!

Why is this stupid? You want to prefer to play the easiest opponents on the way to the top? You damn straight.

Is Kessel going to be shooting for USA? He was money in the shootout for Boston this year.

Holy crap, they do a shootout in the World Championship? This is nuts!

Who's shooting?

Parise was good for the Devils this year.

Im a porponent for shootouts in the NHL playoffs as well

it doesnt get anymore exciting than this

Holy crap, they do a shootout in the World Championship? This is nuts!

I like how NAmericans always have these little revelations about international hockey.

Peltonen misses the net! He had Grahame out of the picture.

Kessel came to close to Lehtonen and missed by far.

Nummelin misses the net.

Lehtinen saves on Stempniak.

Mikko Koivu missed the net, or Grahame got a piece of it.

Lehtonen with a glove save on.. number 9?

Is it a 3 round shootout like the nhl or 5 round??

Is it a 3 round shootout like the nhl or 5 round??
3 (thanks, whoever posted the rules!)

I hate not being able to watch this. If anyone can provide play-by-play I would be much obliged. In international hockey, they use 5 shooters and not three, right?

Well I just have tons of friends in the US .. but this a heartbreaker even for me.

all 3 shooters idn't score

Well I just have tons of friends in the US .. but this a heartbreaker even for me.

all 3 shooters idn't score

Who shot?

Well I just have tons of friends in the US .. but this a heartbreaker even for me.

all 3 shooters idn't score

US out?

Peltonen misses the net! He had Grahame out of the picture.

Kessel came to close to Lehtonen and missed by far.

Nummelin misses the net.

Lehtinen saves on Stempniak.

Mikko Koivu missed the net, or Grahame got a piece of it.

Lehtonen with a glove save on.. number 9?
9 is Parise.

I think the US should win, they put a higher % of shots on net ;)

Sudden death

Parise fumbled with the puck on the sudden death shootout, Finland can win the game here. Grahame saves on Ruutu.

Lehtonen saves on Kessel.

Jeree lehtinen!

****!!!!!

So FInland it is! It will be a great semifinal!

Lehtinen sucks.

I jinxed it hahahahahahah!!! :walrus:

Yeah, Jere Lehtinen shot Finland the semifinal. I'm happy that I was wrong this time!

Jere Lehtinen scores. Finland advances to the semifinal.

Parise and Kessel certainly didn't look like money in the shootout, quite weak penalty shots if you ask me.

****ing hell. Choose some new shooters.

Well, poop. Oh well.

Why in the hell did Parise get to shoot twice?

Well, I wanted USA, but it does not matter that much :handclap:

Congratz Finland! :handclap:

Lehtinen the only one who put it into the net.

Bummer, why does the US always have to suck in international hockey?!

so did the GWG. You can in IIHF.

Lehtinen sucks.

Wanna take that back?

Hurray!

Damn. How many shooters ended up going?

Phew...

Great matchups for the semifinals. The same teams like last year, with the exeption of Russia being there instead of the Czechs. Should be really interesting.

Why in the hell did Parise get to shoot twice?

One player can do all of them. Kovalenko once scored all 3 in the EHT

Why in the hell did Parise get to shoot twice?

IIHF rules... Once you go through the round of 3, anyone can shoot at any time. (Toews at the WJC anyone?)

Or is it anyone can shoot at any time... even in the fist 3 shooters... ahh hell I give up!

What the frick? Not a single U.S. player could score in the shoot-out? I thought Parise, Kessel, etc. were really good in that department.

Oh, well. Have fun getting shelled by Russia, Finland.

Bummer, why does the US always have to suck in international hockey?!

We had a decent tourney.

One player can do all of them. Kovalenko once scored all 3 in the EHT

wasn't that Morozov?

One player can do all of them. Kovalenko once scored all 3 in the EHT

But why did he get to try again after he failed? How come it was USA-FIN-USA-USA-FIN

Kari "the stoat" Lehtonen = God for one day. :bow:

IIHF rules... Once you go through the round of 3, anyone can shoot at any time. (Toews at the WJC anyone?)

I basicly was Towes VS JJ.

And just in time for Eurovision. Um...yay?

That had to have been the most exciting international hockey game I've seen in a very long time. Excellent job by both teams and the shootout ending ramped it up a notch. Just too bad, I was hoping Phil Kessel would be America's hero.

congrats Finland! :yo:

Well I guess its time to start supporting Pittsburgh Penguins and not the USA

I hope Ruutu, Malkin, Gonchar, Staal, and Armstrong play well the rest of the way

wasn't that Morozov?

Don't know about that. I remember Kovalenko did that several years ago.

Bummer, why does the US always have to suck in international hockey?!

ehm, there is no national hockey for Team USA. So if they suck in international hockey, they suck period.
USA hasn't been in the top 5-6 for 10 years, this is no surprise. I didn't think they would make it to a shootout. USA is a good team, but not better than Russia, Sweden, Canda, Finland. The 4 teams in the semis, and the ones that everyone should have expected to be there. I sure did.

Damn. How many shooters ended up going?
5th round I think. 2nd of sudden death shootout.

Who shot?

Kessel, Stempniak and Parise

Bummer, why does the US always have to suck in international hockey?!

IMO quite young Team USA played very well overall compared to many previous tournaments. This was a tight game and there was nothing to be ashamed of.

5th round I think. 2nd of sudden death shootout.
Thanks. Who was the last shooter for the US? (Kessel, Stempniak, Parise, Parise, ?)

ehm, there is no national hockey for Team USA. So if they suck in international hockey, they suck period.

Well, "international" means IIHF in this context obviously. USA didn't suck in Canada (woops, World) Cup.

We had a decent tourney.
I just want them to win it. Its been a while and I think of decent as at least placing with one of the medals, with successful meaning the gold medal.

Effing classless organizers playing the Estonian natonal anthem eventhough they have been told to change it! :madfire:

The USA is preparing for the next olympics! this team was far to young to expect gold here but in a couple years look out!

Thanks. Who was the last shooter for the US? (Kessel, Stempniak, Parise, Parise, ?)

Kessel

Holy crap, they do a shootout in the World Championship? This is nuts!

Was there ever not a shoot out in the WC?

en, That was -96, when Team USA was a really good team, if not the best at the time, complete, tactical and smart. They have some qualities today, but they just aren't better than the best teams.

Thanks. Who was the last shooter for the US? (Kessel, Stempniak, Parise, Parise, ?)
All the penalties:

1. Peltonen misses the net! He had Grahame out of the picture. Kessel came to close to Lehtonen and missed by far.

2. Nummelin misses the net. Lehtonen saves on Stempniak.

3. Mikko Koivu missed the net, or Grahame got a piece of it. Lehtonen with a glove save on Parise.

Sudden death shootout:

1. Parise fumbled with the puck on the sudden death shootout, Finland can win the game here. Grahame saves on Ruutu.

2. Lehtonen saves on Kessel. Jere Lehtinen scores. Finland advances to the semifinal.

The USA is preparing for the next olympics! this team was far to young to expect gold here but in a couple years look out! Look out for what? Please....

Why no Cole? I have to question that.

very true

they are rebuilding!! and have thier sites set on olympic gold

Thanks very much for the info guys, not being able to watch stinks.

Effing classless organizers playing the Estonian natonal anthem eventhough they have been told to change it! :madfire:

:handclap: Well, welcome to the experience that we've been having all along. ;)

But, yes, rather ignorant to say the least

The USA is preparing for the next olympics! this team was far to young to expect gold here but in a couple years look out!

The same can be said about Sweden, where 11 of the players never played in the WC:s before, and there are many young players, going off the the NHL this year or in a couple of years. BÅG wants them to be fully ready for the Olympics in three years, as that is the last year he will lead Team Sweden.

[QUOTE=AkageNoKeri;9239789]ehm, there is no national hockey for Team USA. So if they suck in international hockey, they suck period.
QUOTE]


Classy.

:\ Maybe they should have used Jack Johnson in the shootouts...

Look out for what? Please....


Id be skeptical after watching the hockey team you have over there in Philly :shakehead

I think most of the penalty shots were pretty weak. If there is one rule in shootout, go for the quick wrist shot in a corner (preferably top corner) instead of deking. Deking is only for guys like Morozov and Kovalev.

Mario66: I never said that they suck.

Id be skeptical after watching the hockey team you have over there in Philly :shakehead What does Philly have to do with anything.... USA will be a threat in Olympics? Yeah... that would be the day.

What does Philly have to do with anything.... USA will be a threat in Olympics? Yeah... that would be the day.

Why not? With all young talent...

What does Philly have to do with anything.... USA will be a threat in Olympics? Yeah... that would be the day.

We did just Silver in 02. Canada most not be a threat them either.

We did just Silver in 02. Canada most not be a threat them either. WOW... A silver... lol..

While Canada produced Crosby and Staal, Russia gave Malkin and Ovechkin..

What did USA came up with.. Parise? lol

Why not? With all young talent...
What talent? I mean there are some good players.. but thats about it. Not enough to be a "THREAT" in Olympics.

Zjajajaja. Nice work team Finland, a well earned victory. Russia shouldn't be that big of a problem for team Finland IMO. Finland vs. Canada final! That'll be worth the awaiting!

WOW... A silver... lol..

While Canada produced Crosby and Staal, Russia gave Malkin and Ovechkin..

What did USA came up with.. Parise? lol

Lot of good it did them the recent tournaments...

Usa has some good young players they will surely be better than their 8th place finish they had in Torino come Vancouver... And since usa hockey is always better on North American ice they might have a chance to make the semis. By the way Team Canada 2007 is better than the team they sent to Torino don't you think??? Maybe not as many good individuals bu a way better team. Swiss 2 Canada 0 in Torino Swiss Canada 5 in Moscow and it was the same swiss team...

I think most of the penalty shots were pretty weak. If there is one rule in shootout, go for the quick wrist shot in a corner (preferably top corner) instead of deking. Deking is only for guys like Morozov and Kovalev.

Ya not for the weak SO guys like Nummelin or M.Koivu

By the way Team Canada 2007 is better than the team they sent to Torino don't you think??? Maybe not as many good individuals bu a way better team. Swiss 2 Canada 0 in Torino Swiss Canada 5 in Moscow and it was the same swiss team...

How could you say that, Martin Plüss didn't play for Switzerland. :sarcasm:

Lot of good it did them the recent tournaments...
Recent? Ok. Considering Malkin, Ovechkin, Semin, Radulov are all under 22 years old. While veteran Kovalchuk is 23. Hmmmm... yup. No future there.

How could you say that, Martin Plüss didn't play for Switzerland. :sarcasm:

Neither did the goalie, who literally stood on his had back then:)

Since 2005 it's Czech Sweden Sweden who have won...Since about 10 years the #1 nation in Hockey= Czech Republic ... If you go for the U20 it's all about Canada and Russia... But if you take the last 3 olympics with "all the stars" without the home ice advantage and home refs well Russia is the only team who went to each 1/2. In 2002 it was the usa ref who did them in and last year was Malkin-Frolov-Korolyuk out and a great Finnish Team. That injury to Morozov is devastating. Really time for some players to play like they can

WOW... A silver... lol..

While Canada produced Crosby and Staal, Russia gave Malkin and Ovechkin..

What did USA came up with.. Parise? lol


What talent? I mean there are some good players.. but thats about it. Not enough to be a "THREAT" in Olympics.


I hear ya but you gotta have faith brutha!!!

there are some good up and coming U.S. players that have been drafted high dont count them out years befor the olympics are even here!

and I gotta kick Philly while they are down! :D

Recent? Ok. Considering Malkin, Ovechkin, Semin, Radulov are all under 22 years old. While veteran Kovalchuk is 23. Hmmmm... yup. No future there.

hi didn't say there is no future, did he? And yes, team USA has few very talented young players: Stastny, Kessel, Parise, and few others.

Stop it with the trash talking folks, this is supposed to be a discussion of the Finland-USA game.

Yeah all those top 10 picks mean nothing...and its all about goals too.
DiPetro, EJ, JJ mean nothing.

hi didn't say there is no future, did he? And yes, team USA has few very talented young players: Stastny, Kessel, Parise, and few others. Well I do not think Kessel and Parise are top of the line talent. I do agree that Stastny is a star.

Those are good youngsters but not SUPERSTARS... They don't have any Crosby Ovechkin Malkin Phaneuf on D... Must have a Canada-Russia final this year in Moscow and then next year in Quebec City...Have to bring back the rivalry's intensity again building up to Ottawa 2009 and Vancouver 2010

hockey is a team game big name individual players cant always get it done!

im out later fellas

congrats Finland! give em hell next round!

What talent? I mean there are some good players.. but thats about it. Not enough to be a "THREAT" in Olympics.

That's stubborn. Kessel, the Johnsons and Stastny may be no Crosby, but this is certainly more young talent than anybody else has outside of Canada and Russia. Of course a threat.

Usa has some good young players they will surely be better than their 8th place finish they had in Torino come Vancouver... And since usa hockey is always better on North American ice they might have a chance to make the semis. By the way Team Canada 2007 is better than the team they sent to Torino don't you think??? Maybe not as many good individuals bu a way better team. Swiss 2 Canada 0 in Torino Swiss Canada 5 in Moscow and it was the same swiss team...

Swiss were better prepared that year and had excellent goaltending. Aebischer and Gerber were both in the zone right then.

There's lots of top 5 picks overral who never turn into stars... Do I need to remind you of some... EJ will be good maybe really good but not JJ . Anyway Usa at best will be blown out in the 1/2 in 2010. Now you have two great 1/2 on saturday in what is really good hockey long time no see. Well since Torino we havn't seen that good hockey.

Great game! Great Win! Hyva Lehtonen! :teach:

Now for Eurovision in Helsinki!! :handclap:

I was using the Swiss as an example if you want more Team Canada 2006 was SHUTOUT for 3 of their last 4 games !!!!!!!!!!! 11 of their last 12 periods !!!!!!!!!! This team Canada version 2007 is really interesting Decent Goaltending that's never the problem very good D better than the likes of foote blake mccabe for big ice and very good units chemistry up front except for Colby A. he is terrible. I predict easily that team Canada 2010 will have 1/3 of team Canada 2007.

That's stubborn. Kessel, the Johnsons and Stastny may be no Crosby, but this is certainly more young talent than anybody else has outside of Canada and Russia. Of course a threat.

It's a lot of young talent, but there are few strong veterans to guide them. They've postponed their generational shift to a point where they'll have a bunch of entering their prime guys (this crop of young dudes) and no (experienced) winning veterans to support them.

Recent? Ok. Considering Malkin, Ovechkin, Semin, Radulov are all under 22 years old. While veteran Kovalchuk is 23. Hmmmm... yup. No future there.

Russia have been deep at forwards throughout the whole 90s and continue to have it now.

I never said there wasn't any future there, but the names really isn't that impressive if you can't prove that they can play a team game, which hockey is all about.