WC QF: May 9 GDT - Sweden vs. Slovakia

Predatore
05-09-2007, 04:41 AM
http://www.iihf.com/Hydra/Tournaments_07/output/WS/hydra.iihf.com/113/

koyo
05-09-2007, 05:08 AM
Go Slovakia, go! :yo:

yarre
05-09-2007, 06:03 AM
Go Slovakia, go! :yo:

Yes, go home Slovakia, go!

Winner
05-09-2007, 06:23 AM
Yes, go home Slovakia, go!

Seconded :biglaugh:

Leon
05-09-2007, 06:36 AM
3 - 1 for SVK :teach:

STZENIT
05-09-2007, 07:18 AM
5-3 Sweden :) shud b a gud game

Art Vandelay
05-09-2007, 07:38 AM
Have a bad feeling about this one. :(

cska78
05-09-2007, 07:50 AM
Good luck, you Slovaks!

hdw
05-09-2007, 07:53 AM
2 - 0 Sweden, Backlund's third shutout.

e-e
05-09-2007, 09:24 AM
it's shpuld be interesting game...hope slovakia takes the win...

4:3 slovakia :yo: :yo:

satan 2, chara, hossa

Chimp
05-09-2007, 10:09 AM
I'm honestly not impressed by the Slovaks this far, but a QF is a QF.

Hennessy
05-09-2007, 10:36 AM
Slovakia is always one of those teams that you get a bad feeling from - even when they're doing poorly you know they have the tools to put some hurt on your team. They make me nervous. But if Sweden doesn't make boneheaded plays, they can take 'em. Especially if Slovakia comes in tonight on the bad side of the inconsistency they're known for. Heck, if both teams play as well as they're capable of, Sweden still wins.

So why do I have a feeling Slovakia wins tonight?

hdw
05-09-2007, 10:41 AM
So why do I have a feeling Slovakia wins tonight?

Hossa, Gaborik & Demitra.

Enough to give anyone nightmares.

But that said.
If Sweden can keep their cool and continue to play solid and disciplined (aka boring) hockey then Slovakia can be beaten.

Chimp
05-09-2007, 10:43 AM
Sweden has virtually no star on the team, but they're a team in the full meaning of it.

Morandi11
05-09-2007, 11:04 AM
i am on a vbookie streak, 7 in a row
i put 100 on slovakia, i think they were bluffing so far ...

12# Peter Bondra
05-09-2007, 11:18 AM
Demitra has some knee ligament problems, so he will be slower today.

Tomas Starosta is out of the tournament after a hit in the Belarus game.

debil
05-09-2007, 11:29 AM
I love playoffs. Now the world championship started indeed. Hope we'll see great match.

Even though our team is realy inconsistent and on this championship had only one good match (with czechs) I still believe them since its simply my team. If i see great effort of our team tonight I will be happy even if we loose.


Let the show begin. :yo: :yo: :yo:

Riddarn
05-09-2007, 11:44 AM
Expecting a tight, low scoring game. Sweden must avoid OT and especially penalty shootout if they want to win.

e-e
05-09-2007, 12:02 PM
good luck to you guys...:)

drop the puck...can't wait

go slovakia go!:yo:

mattihp
05-09-2007, 12:11 PM
Expecting a tight, low scoring game. Sweden must avoid OT and especially penalty shootout if they want to win.

Taking penalties wouldn't be all too clever against these guys either...

e-e
05-09-2007, 12:12 PM
Hossa, Gaborik & Demitra.

Enough to give anyone nightmares.

But that said.
If Sweden can keep their cool and continue to play solid and disciplined (aka boring) hockey then Slovakia can be beaten.

i have a feeling that it's gonna be miro satan' show tonight

Matti_A
05-09-2007, 12:17 PM
Did they say the ref is Danny Kurmann?

If so I feel bad for both teams already :shakehead

Cush
05-09-2007, 12:17 PM
PP Slovakia

Hennessy
05-09-2007, 12:18 PM
Ugh.

e-e
05-09-2007, 12:18 PM
0:1 slovakia!!!!!!!!!

go slovakia go!

e-e
05-09-2007, 12:19 PM
yes baby...that what we needed!!!

e-e
05-09-2007, 12:19 PM
hossa made it 1:0 :handclap:

koyo
05-09-2007, 12:21 PM
powerplay Slovakia! Score another one!

e-e
05-09-2007, 12:21 PM
another powerplay for slovakia

Hennessy
05-09-2007, 12:27 PM
There we go.

koyo
05-09-2007, 12:27 PM
What a chance Gaborik had at the end of the powerplay

1:1 Sweden tied. :(

e-e
05-09-2007, 12:28 PM
1:1 .. :o(

koyo
05-09-2007, 12:29 PM
Richard Kapus!!!! 2:1 Slovakia

Hennessy
05-09-2007, 12:29 PM
If this keeps up it will be 8-8 to start the 3rd.

e-e
05-09-2007, 12:29 PM
2:1 slovakia...there u go!!!:yo:

Systemfel
05-09-2007, 12:29 PM
Backlund lets in a softie. :shakehead I told everyone the Swedish defensemen were way too weak, they can't handle the big skill guys.

Matti_A
05-09-2007, 12:30 PM
Damn it Backlund, why the hell didn't you let in those kind of softies against Finland :rant:

dmonk
05-09-2007, 12:32 PM
Trying to watch this game via sopcast and VLC...
Does anyone know why can't i get VLC to show picture? I hear sound and picture is frozen.
Easy fix i don't know of?:help:

koyo
05-09-2007, 12:34 PM
Slovakia is playing pretty well at this point. I hope they keep up the good play.

Hennessy
05-09-2007, 12:35 PM
Those are some of the worst cheerleading outfits I have ever seen.

Chimp
05-09-2007, 12:37 PM
Really not satisfied with the Swedish defense so far. Both goals were defensive breakdowns, too easy for the Slovaks.

PatTraverse
05-09-2007, 12:41 PM
Out of topic but...That guy Marek Uram must be Handzus's lost older brother.

e-e
05-09-2007, 12:41 PM
is it fast hockey...entertaining? cant watch

koyo
05-09-2007, 12:42 PM
Out of topic but...That guy Marek Uram must be Handzus's lost older brother.

:D

e-e
05-09-2007, 12:43 PM
Out of topic but...That guy Marek Uram must be Handzus's lost older brother.

u mean slovak aragorn? :D

e-e
05-09-2007, 12:45 PM
shots are 15:8 for sweden :amazed:

PatTraverse
05-09-2007, 12:46 PM
shots are 15:8 for sweden :amazed:
Sweden is dominating and buzzing inside Slovakia's zone it should be 1-1 but Backlund let in that softie.

Chimp
05-09-2007, 12:49 PM
Sweden is dominating and buzzing inside Slovakia's zone it should be 1-1 but Backlund let in that softie.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure he wants that one back. Quite harmless shot really that a goalie saves 19/20 times.

If this continues in the 2nd period, Sweden is bound to score the equalizer.

Riddarn
05-09-2007, 12:51 PM
Things are not looking any good.

Hennessy
05-09-2007, 12:53 PM
Things are not looking any good.

Huh? Sweden is down by one due to a soft goal, has dominated the play and has almost twice as many shots. Yeah, they're down a goal, so you can't be too happy, but you make it sound like the gods are doomed and the end is death.

debil
05-09-2007, 12:53 PM
Sweden is dominating and buzzing inside Slovakia's zone it should be 1-1 but Backlund let in that softie.

These are just main characteristics of our hockey. Defensively withou any system, it is a mess what our players produce in our own zone. Offensively quite OK and very productive. Particularly gaborik is the best forward on the championship.

If Slovakia keeps producing such a poor defense Sweden will have really great chances to win this match.

Dala
05-09-2007, 12:54 PM
His first shift after a boneheaded positional play, I screamed out loud: "bench him", guess who? ~4 shifts later he was -2 :rant:

"but he can skate" - yeah, johan fransson can skate too...

debil
05-09-2007, 12:55 PM
Huh? Sweden is down by one due to a soft goal, has dominated the play and has almost twice as many shot. Yeah, they're down a goal, so you can't be too happy, but you make it sound like the gods are doomed and the end is death.

There many many teams who are regularly outshooted and are still successful.

Dala
05-09-2007, 12:55 PM
Huh? Sweden is down by one due to a soft goal, has dominated the play and has almost twice as many shot. Yeah, they're down a goal, so you can't be too happy, but you make it sound like the gods are doomed and the end is death.

Backlund has realized he's not Lundqvist :sarcasm:

koyo
05-09-2007, 12:56 PM
Of course Sweden is dominating now. Nothing else I expected. But we have guys who can easily break away. It shall be interesting to watch the rest of the game.

yarre
05-09-2007, 12:56 PM
His first shift after a boneheaded positional play, I screamed out loud: "bench him", guess who? ~4 shifts later he was -2 :rant:

"but he can skate" - yeah, johan fransson can skate too...

Enström? Because I have not been fond of him this tournament and this game is really highlighting it!

FiNsKa
05-09-2007, 12:57 PM
Damn it Backlund, why the hell didn't you let in those kind of softies against Finland :rant:

Maybe Backlund has a chicken bone stuck in his throat....;)

debil
05-09-2007, 12:58 PM
Of course Sweden is dominating now. Nothing else I expected. But we have guys who can easily break away. It shall be interesting to watch the rest of the game.

Of course it will be interesting since its quarterfinal. Who cares how nice we play?

Riddarn
05-09-2007, 12:59 PM
Huh? Sweden is down by one due to a soft goal, has dominated the play and has almost twice as many shots. Yeah, they're down a goal, so you can't be too happy, but you make it sound like the gods are doomed and the end is death.

We might be ahead in terms of shots, but the Slovaks have the edge in quality scoring chances. You're right about Backlund, it was a very soft goal. None of our NHL goalies would have let that one in.

debil
05-09-2007, 01:02 PM
We might be ahead in terms of shots, but the Slovaks have the edge in quality scoring chances. You're right about Backlund, it was a very soft goal. None of our NHL goalies would have let that one in.

Actually it was not such a soft goal.

koyo
05-09-2007, 01:05 PM
Very much deserved goal for Sweden... :rant:

PatTraverse
05-09-2007, 01:05 PM
It was bound to happen the way Sweden has just been owning Slovakia's zone.

cska78
05-09-2007, 01:06 PM
Go Slovaks!!!! I hope u take them out!

debil
05-09-2007, 01:07 PM
Our defensive skills are embarassing. :handclap:

PatTraverse
05-09-2007, 01:12 PM
Krizan keeping his guys in the game.

yarre
05-09-2007, 01:13 PM
I love Thörnberg, I hope though that no NHL-teams wants to try him.

Chimp
05-09-2007, 01:13 PM
Sweet! Sweden has turned the game around.

Matti_A
05-09-2007, 01:13 PM
Team Slovakia's defence makes baby jesus cry.

PatTraverse
05-09-2007, 01:15 PM
Well at least Marek "Cherry Picker" Uram won't be able to do his trick.

psycho_dad
05-09-2007, 01:16 PM
Team Slovakia's defence makes baby jesus cry.

Yeah why didnt we get these guys :cry:

Den
05-09-2007, 01:16 PM
I am really impressed with the Swedish ability to do this without the NHLers :handclap: :handclap: :handclap:

Chileiceman
05-09-2007, 01:17 PM
That 3rd swedish goal looked to me like number 20 ran the goalie.

psycho_dad
05-09-2007, 01:18 PM
That 3rd swedish goal looked to me like number 20 ran the goalie.

Yeah he did but the defenseman pushed him at the last minute, so no goalie interference since he was pushed in. Stupid move, but for some reason you can see a lot of that these days.

Garl
05-09-2007, 01:23 PM
Stralman just saved Sweden.

yarre
05-09-2007, 01:24 PM
Seriously, why is Enström allowed to play? He is a mess in his own zone.

Hennessy
05-09-2007, 01:26 PM
Oops.

Cush
05-09-2007, 01:26 PM
4 - 2 Sweden

koyo
05-09-2007, 01:36 PM
Slovaks play way too slow. Very static.:rant:

Riddarn
05-09-2007, 01:39 PM
Nice, much better 2nd period. Better keep the skating up for the third though. :)

Crazyhorse
05-09-2007, 01:41 PM
Very nice game by Sweden so far. I still believe that the slovaks will get through, but i am impressed by the grit and determination the swedish _team_ are showing. If we manage to go through, BÅG deserves alot of credit.

Refuse
05-09-2007, 01:43 PM
Very nice game by Sweden so far. I still believe that the slovaks will get through, but i am impressed by the grit and determination the swedish _team_ are showing. If we manage to go through, BÅG deserves alot of credit.
You really think the slovaks can turn this game around? The way theyve been playing this could end up being a route. Their only hope is for the swedes to slow down and stop putting on that pressure in their own zone. Slovakia looks lost on defense.

Cush
05-09-2007, 01:49 PM
looks like the took away Backstrom's assist on the 4th goal

Crazyhorse
05-09-2007, 01:49 PM
You really think the slovaks can turn this game around? The way theyve been playing this could end up being a route. Their only hope is for the swedes to slow down and stop putting on that pressure in their own zone. Slovakia looks lost on defense.

Well, all i can say is, that i am humble to the end.

Ever heard of reversed psychology? ;)

Crazyhorse
05-09-2007, 01:50 PM
looks like the took away Backstrom's assist on the 4th goal

Yeah, he definitely should have another assist, on that goal.

Chimp
05-09-2007, 01:50 PM
looks like the took away Backstrom's assist on the 4th goal
A shame, that was a really nice pass to Steen.

Hedström has been really good, Enström not so good.

Hennessy
05-09-2007, 01:52 PM
Bah.

Chimp
05-09-2007, 01:53 PM
My god what a sloppy mess in our own zone. :shakehead

4-3. Exactly what we shouldn't have been doing.

Gozer
05-09-2007, 01:55 PM
Now that was terrible defending...

It's going to be a tough third period.

Matti_A
05-09-2007, 01:55 PM
Radio with the goal.

Borschevsky
05-09-2007, 02:02 PM
beauty by Martensson

PJM
05-09-2007, 02:02 PM
5-3 Mårtensson.

Chimp
05-09-2007, 02:03 PM
5-3! Mårtensson thought he was Gaborik out there. ;) Crappy line change by Slovakia.

Both teams have been pretty good at making the other team pay for defensive mistakes.

Chileiceman
05-09-2007, 02:04 PM
What an unbelivably awful line change

Borschevsky
05-09-2007, 02:07 PM
10 min misconduct to Gaborik :amazed:

Chimp
05-09-2007, 02:07 PM
5 on 3 for Sweden and Gaborik received a 10 min penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct.

Chimp
05-09-2007, 02:09 PM
6-3 on the 5 on 3. Pretty soft goal on Krizan.

Haha, wth is this? 6-4.

Matti_A
05-09-2007, 02:12 PM
Cucumber 4-6

Gozer
05-09-2007, 02:13 PM
I've gotten so used to results like 2-1 the past couple of weeks that it feels strange seing lots of goals in a playoff game ;)

dmonk
05-09-2007, 02:17 PM
I've gotten so used to results like 2-1 the past couple of weeks that it feels strange seing lots of goals in a playoff game ;)

Haven't seen any of the Team Russia games, have you? :sarcasm:

Gozer
05-09-2007, 02:21 PM
Haven't seen any of the Team Russia games, have you? :sarcasm:

Nope.

yarre
05-09-2007, 02:22 PM
Bäckström has really stepped it up this game IMO, delivered some real nice passes, not only the ones they have scored on but created more chances because of his passes.

Chimp
05-09-2007, 02:24 PM
Demitra joins Gaborik on the whining bench. ;) 10 min misconduct for him as well and 2 min for checking from behind.

TK79
05-09-2007, 02:24 PM
Slovakia just may be playing the worst defensive game in recent World Championship playoff history. They look horrible out there.

Chimp
05-09-2007, 02:26 PM
Haha, Mårtensson shot the camera with the 7-4 EN goal. ;)

11 goals in a QF, amazing. I don't know what the Slovak players whined on him for, I think the Swiss ref was pretty solid. He missed a little here and there, but all penalties were by the book.

TheRealRazor
05-09-2007, 02:28 PM
Frig, I was hoping Slovakia would pull one out of the hat. If Canada wins, they face Sweden. :(

Vikke
05-09-2007, 02:29 PM
So far I've not believed in team Sweden. Now I do. :)

yarre
05-09-2007, 02:29 PM
Frig, I was hoping Slovakia would pull one out of the hat. If Canada wins, they face Sweden. :(

I hope you aren't afraid of Sweden, we have one NHL-player and let in 4 goals in this game, nothing to be afraid of.

Ciccarelli
05-09-2007, 02:31 PM
Looks like we're about to have a Finland - Sweden pronze match :)

Riddarn
05-09-2007, 02:31 PM
Bäckström has really stepped it up this game IMO, delivered some real nice passes, not only the ones they have scored on but created more chances because of his passes.

I agree. Looking more like the Bäckström before christmas now.

Good win. Ridiculous amount of goals scored for a quarter final though. With two tactically skilled teams I thought it would be low scoring.. :)

Chimp
05-09-2007, 02:32 PM
I hope you aren't afraid of Sweden, we have one NHL-player and let in 4 goals in this game, nothing to be afraid of.
Yeah, we really have to step up a notch defensively if we want to win more games. Way too many defensive lapses tonight. As for only having Steen from NHL, it doesn't matter that much, we have skilled players who know how to play the game.

I expect Canada to beat Switzerland, so it'll be an interesting game against Canada. Switzerland can upset if Canada underrestimates them though.

yarre
05-09-2007, 02:34 PM
Yeah, we really have to step up a notch defensively if we want to win more games. Way too many defensive lapses tonight.

Yeah no *****, I thought Sweden looked good defensily against Russia but this game wasn't so great, alot of misunderstandings by the defensemen (like the 6-4 goal, 3 players looking at them coming in and nobody stepping up to stop the shooter), some give-ways, we are lucky that we scored so many goals. We really dominated the game in the second though, really impressed by how the forwards played.

TheRealRazor
05-09-2007, 02:35 PM
I hope you aren't afraid of Sweden, we have one NHL-player and let in 4 goals in this game, nothing to be afraid of.

Not afraid, but I'd rather have Slovakia than Sweden any day.

Dala
05-09-2007, 02:36 PM
Emwall + J. Jönsson :yo:

Best defensiv forwards in a long while, can't hit a barn though :biglaugh:

They who blame emwall for one of the goals where he was the one in front of the goal should direct their anger elsewhere, I'm not pointing my finger at anyone, especially not you wallin ;)

Devilswede
05-09-2007, 02:38 PM
Sweden deserves a lot of credit. We have one NHL player, and that's Alexander Steen. Now we're probably facing Canada, but I don't it will be so easy for Canada as some believe.

I believe Sweden will win. You can never count them out.

Crazyhorse
05-09-2007, 02:38 PM
If somebody had told me two weeks ago that we would be facing Canada in a Seminfinal, with this roster, i would laugh my ass off.

Anyway, ive underestimated this swedish team, big time. We are a _team_ we dont' rely on anybody particular to score, but the problem is, Canada does neither. It will be a very, very intensive game.

I gotta give credit to BÅG. I whine at him every tournament, but he allways shut me up in the end. :teach:

Dala
05-09-2007, 02:41 PM
If somebody had told me two weeks ago that we would be facing Canada in a Seminfinal, with this roster, i would laugh my ass off.

I *am* laughing my ass off :teach:

BÅG probably have approximately 3/4 of Skåne in his pants though (Swedish joke) :biglaugh:

DrCrane
05-09-2007, 02:43 PM
Don't know what to say about this game. It was chaos out there. :D

Agreed that it was the best game from Bäckström so far in the tourney but I'm still not completely satisfied with his game. He still lack speed and his physical side can improve a lot. But he's still young and he's got plenty of hockey in him, no doubt about that. Besides, it's not his fault he's been so hyped.

Gozer
05-09-2007, 02:47 PM
If somebody had told me two weeks ago that we would be facing Canada in a Seminfinal, with this roster, i would laugh my ass off.

Anyway, ive underestimated this swedish team, big time. We are a _team_ we dont' rely on anybody particular to score, but the problem is, Canada does neither. It will be a very, very intensive game.

I gotta give credit to BÅG. I whine at him every tournament, but he allways shut me up in the end. :teach:

If Sweden win this tournament, i promise i will clean Avenyn with a tooth brush.

You better have that tooth brush ready! :D ;)

Canada(probably) will be a tough game though. But you never know.

Crazyhorse
05-09-2007, 02:48 PM
Bäckström stepped it up today, yeah.

I agree he could get faster, guess that Ovechkin will teach him something about that. ;)

Anyway, i am very happy about this team. They have already exceeded my expectations, everything from this point is a bonus. Canada will be looking for revenge for last years semifinal, but it will be a close game, no doubt.

Crazyhorse
05-09-2007, 02:49 PM
You better have that tooth brush ready! :D ;)

Canada(probably) will be a tough game though. But you never know.

Damn, didn't think anyone would remember that statement. ;)

12# Peter Bondra
05-09-2007, 03:06 PM
Haha, Mårtensson shot the camera with the 7-4 EN goal. ;)

11 goals in a QF, amazing. I don't know what the Slovak players whined on him for, I think the Swiss ref was pretty solid. He missed a little here and there, but all penalties were by the book.
It was due to 2 things:
a) The goal on 2-3 shouldnt have counted as Jurcina didnt interfeer with the Swedish player that for him to crash into the goalie. He didnt change the path the player was going.I was watching on the Czech broadcast and they said that it shouldnt have been a goal.
b) When Jurcina got 2 for cross-checking, Steen slashed Krizan on the hand and no penalty was called while on the other side Gaborik's goal was disallowed (which was a right call) but from Gaborik's point of view, I can see why he was so upset.

Crazyhorse
05-09-2007, 03:07 PM
It was due to 2 things:
a) The goal on 2-3 shouldnt have counted as Jurcina didnt interfeer with the Swedish player that for him to crash into the goalie. He didnt change the path the player was going.I was watching on the Czech broadcast and they said that it shouldnt have been a goal.
b) When Jurcina got 2 for cross-checking, Steen slashed Krizan on the hand and no penalty was called while on the other side Gaborik's goal was disallowed (which was a right call) but from Gaborik's point of view, I can see why he was so upset.

Conclusion?

The ref handed Sweden the game. :sarcasm:

12# Peter Bondra
05-09-2007, 03:08 PM
I agree. Looking more like the Bäckström before christmas now.

Good win. Ridiculous amount of goals scored for a quarter final though. With two tactically skilled teams I thought it would be low scoring.. :)
We are a tactically skilled team? :D

We really need to get a good tactical coach. BAG ate up the Hossa line by using Jorgen Jonsson against them ALL the time. Our coaches dont know what line matching is.

12# Peter Bondra
05-09-2007, 03:08 PM
Conclusion?

The ref handed Sweden the game. :sarcasm:
Im not saying that, the Swedes deserved to win but who knows what happens if the goal on 2-3 didnt count.

e-e
05-09-2007, 03:09 PM
havn't seen the game....but congrats to semifinal :handclap:

Crazyhorse
05-09-2007, 03:10 PM
Im not saying that, the Swedes deserved to win but who knows what happens if the goal on 2-3 didnt count.

There surely was some questionable calls, i am not debating that.

Anyway, a guy like Visnovsky would have made wonders for this Slovak team(he was playing in Gothenburg, right?), i guess they where lacking discipline and mobility on the D to win this game.

12# Peter Bondra
05-09-2007, 03:13 PM
There surely was some questionable calls, i am not debating that.

Anyway, a guy like Visnovsky would have made wonders for this Slovak team(he was playing in Gothenburg, right?), i guess they where lacking discipline and mobility on the D to win this game.
He was.

A team like Germany would have beat us today with our D coverage.

Also, a D of:
Chara-Podhradsky
Strbak-Jurcina
Granak-Harant
Stehlik

wont win any championships. Chara played real well but Jurcina again lacked hockey sense and Strbak and Starosta were solid but the other 3 were bad.

Crazyhorse
05-09-2007, 03:14 PM
He was.

A team like Germany would have beat us today with our D coverage.

Also, a D of:
Chara-Podhradsky
Strbak-Jurcina
Granak-Harant
Stehlik

wont win any championships. Chara played real well but Jurcina again lacked hockey sense and Strbak and Starosta were solid but the other 3 were bad.

What happened to Lintner? I always recall him as a stud, atleast when playing for the national side.

12# Peter Bondra
05-09-2007, 03:20 PM
What happened to Lintner? I always recall him as a stud, atleast when playing for the national side.
Was injured and wasnt even called last season. Maybe he retired from the national team, I dont know.

I liked him. Sure more than Richard 'I want a NHL contract but give giveaways like its Christmas' Stehlik.

debil
05-09-2007, 03:38 PM
Chara played real well but Jurcina again lacked hockey sense and Strbak and Starosta were solid but the other 3 were bad.

What? Did I watch the same game? Chara was terrible. Slow, non-physicall, bad positioning, just skating slowly here and there and stretching out his large stick.

Riddarn
05-09-2007, 03:42 PM
We are a tactically skilled team? :D

We really need to get a good tactical coach. BAG ate up the Hossa line by using Jorgen Jonsson against them ALL the time. Our coaches dont know what line matching is.

Czech and Slovak trained players are usually very well schooled in tactics and usually play a tight system with fast counter attacks.
Maybe the Slovak team do need a more modern coach to take advantage of that though.

johnny_rudeboy
05-09-2007, 03:46 PM
Im not saying that, the Swedes deserved to win but who knows what happens if the goal on 2-3 didnt count.



There where a slovak in the goal area for the 1-2 goal, should not have counted...

pappa jan
05-09-2007, 03:49 PM
It was due to 2 things:
a) The goal on 2-3 shouldnt have counted as Jurcina didnt interfeer with the Swedish player that for him to crash into the goalie. He didnt change the path the player was going.I was watching on the Czech broadcast and they said that it shouldnt have been a goal.
b) When Jurcina got 2 for cross-checking, Steen slashed Krizan on the hand and no penalty was called while on the other side Gaborik's goal was disallowed (which was a right call) but from Gaborik's point of view, I can see why he was so upset.How can you say that the 3-2 goal shouldn't have been a goal?! He was crosschecked into Krizan. To blame the loss on the referee is just atrocious. Sweden clearly outplayed Slovakia in the second half of the first period, the whole second period, and outside of the first 6 minutes of the third, had full control of the game.

hdw
05-09-2007, 03:50 PM
What? Did I watch the same game? Chara was terrible. Slow, non-physicall, bad positioning, just skating slowly here and there and stretching out his large stick.

I'm not sure that it was just Chara's own fault, the swedish players said before the game that they had to get the Slovak D's to move as much as possible, since that's what they're worst at.

Or to quote J.Jönsson (Chara's ex-Captain in Färjestad)."always get him move, start, stop and change direction, it takes a lot of effort turn that big frame around".

Which was exactly what they did.

Chimp
05-09-2007, 03:54 PM
Slovakia had at an average weight the biggest defenders in the entire tournament and Sweden did their best to try to make that a disadvantage.

12# Peter Bondra
05-09-2007, 03:58 PM
What? Did I watch the same game? Chara was terrible. Slow, non-physicall, bad positioning, just skating slowly here and there and stretching out his large stick.
Well, when your defensive partner is chasing the opponents and the whole D system is a mess, he had to basically defend 2 players at a time.

Unlike many others, I wasnt afraid when Chara had the puck as I knew he wouldnt make any big mistakes (like Harant or Stehlik did).

12# Peter Bondra
05-09-2007, 03:59 PM
Czech and Slovak trained players are usually very well schooled in tactics and usually play a tight system with fast counter attacks.
Maybe the Slovak team do need a more modern coach to take advantage of that though.
We sure do. We always recycle the same coaches on the national squad.

Could we get BAG from you for the next WC's? :D

12# Peter Bondra
05-09-2007, 04:00 PM
How can you say that the 3-2 goal shouldn't have been a goal?! He was crosschecked into Krizan. To blame the loss on the referee is just atrocious. Sweden clearly outplayed Slovakia in the second half of the first period, the whole second period, and outside of the first 6 minutes of the third, had full control of the game.
Did you even read my 2nd post after that? I didnt say Sweden didnt deserve to win but that call could have gone either way.

Faktisti*
05-09-2007, 04:43 PM
omg i cant beleave that sverige won with those players. against finland they had only good luck.

Ola
05-09-2007, 05:03 PM
Also, a D of:
Chara-Podhradsky
Strbak-Jurcina
Granak-Harant
Stehlik

wont win any championships. Chara played real well but Jurcina again lacked hockey sense and Strbak and Starosta were solid but the other 3 were bad.

Sweden didn't have a single NHL player on the blueline! ;)

Seriously though, with the crackdown on hooks and holds, and no-redline, I am 125% sure that the best way to play hockey is to hold on to the puck as much as possible. Defense is best offense. You can't play like the Slovaks did, or like Calgary or Atlanta does in the NHL to name a few, not against a team that plays a puck poession style.

You must hold on to the puck when you got it, its too hard to defend, and too easy to attack. The Slovaks gives the puck away allot, wants the other team to have the puck so they can make a misstake so that the Slovaks can counter attack.

Players like Marian Gaborik, Hossa and Demitra dissapeared while Torgny freakin Mårtensson looked like a mix of Pavel Bure and Wayne Gretzky. Martin Törnberg wouldn't score 25 pts in the AHL, yet he plays a awsome game tonight.

Sweden played pretty well against Russia too. Look at our roster.

The Slovak D's aren't good, but thats defenitly not the issue. Its all about the style, the tactic. The Rangers play almost the same puckpoession style as Sweden, they outshoot the other team more then 80% of the time for the last quater of the season, before gooing up against Buffalo they had lost like 3 games in the last 30 in regulation.

Puckpoession is defenitly the name of the game these days. Remember that Sweden got a really sheitty roster to say the least.

pappa jan
05-09-2007, 05:29 PM
Did you even read my 2nd post after that? I didnt say Sweden didnt deserve to win but that call could have gone either way.Yeah i read it, but you still brought up the disputed call, which at least looks like you partly blame the loss on the refs, which would be totally wrong.

But it seems we agree that the better team won, and that's all that really matters.

pappa jan
05-09-2007, 05:38 PM
Remember that Sweden got a really sheitty roster to say the least.What's so ****** about Emvall, Åkerman, Warg, Månsson, Thörnberg, Khanberg, Sandström, etc.:)

Seriously though, it really like you said, that the puck-possesion style that the swedes use, really benefits from the new level of ruling. Mårtensson, Davidsson and Wallin can all dangle the puck at will sometimes it seems, even though they're marginal "NHLers" at best. The collective beat its parts 1000-fold on this team, and i'm not a bit surprised. The winning atmosphere that BÅG has brought to this team is just amazing. These days im never worried about what team is put on the ice, you know that they will eventually win, or as in the game against russia, put in a good effort.

Krm500
05-09-2007, 07:45 PM
If it's all about puck possesion (hogging) Kahnberg should be out there all game long :D

Ola
05-09-2007, 08:33 PM
What's so ****** about Emvall, Åkerman, Warg, Månsson, Thörnberg, Khanberg, Sandström, etc.:)

Seriously though, it really like you said, that the puck-possesion style that the swedes use, really benefits from the new level of ruling. Mårtensson, Davidsson and Wallin can all dangle the puck at will sometimes it seems, even though they're marginal "NHLers" at best. The collective beat its parts 1000-fold on this team, and i'm not a bit surprised. The winning atmosphere that BÅG has brought to this team is just amazing. These days im never worried about what team is put on the ice, you know that they will eventually win, or as in the game against russia, put in a good effort.

Yeah, though I wouldn't want to see this team play a good team that plays like us, would be ugly. ;)

We also got players on all lines too who are really good defensivly, we don't got any speed, size and strength, but we are good defensivly among our forwards, defenitly world-class.

Chimp
05-09-2007, 09:52 PM
What can get Sweden further in this tournament is the PP, it's been surprisingly effective so far.

AkageNoKeri
05-10-2007, 05:52 AM
I can't help but wonder what Per Svartvadet and Niklas Sundström would have done for this team. I suspect Sweden would be much better defensively atleast.


And dammit, why won't BÅG use Wernblom in PP!?! He always gets the puck in the net, somewhow.