WC QF: May 9 GDT - Russia vs. Czech Republic

http://www.iihf.com/Hydra/Tournaments_07/output/WS/hydra.iihf.com/113/

Ah, our last game at the Championship. I hope we at least make a good impression.

Ah, our last game at the Championship. I hope we at least make a good impression.

ahhhh dont sai that we like 2 make presents in knockout rounds :biglaugh:

5-2 Russia..... hopefully victory day will make the boys play great
but i am nervous :(

Very tough game for Russia. Nobody have won on homeice since 1986. There is allot of pressure and the best of 1 games are nuts.

Reminds me of the Czech against US in Prague a few years ago.

They just showed a supercool episode about the Russian-Czech rivalry on RTR :handclap:

Looks like Larionov will be one of the commentators today :yo: :yo:

Ah, our last game at the Championship. I hope we at least make a good impression.

I have nothing against you personnaly, but I can't stand people who act like you. You know, I know and everyone else knows that you believe your team can win, and you want them to win. By saying what u said, u take up a position of celebrating hard if u win, and saying I told u so, if u loose...

Guyes put up a good fight please, on such a day u cannot loose...

Nabby is flying to Moscow :yo: :yo:

I am nervous... Czechs always played tough against us.

Let the best team win. I am hoping refs will do good job in polayoffs.

Go Russia Go!

Larik is loosing his command of Russian: "I was pleasantly surprised by by the crowd support during Rus-Swe, and I didn't expect anything else" :sarcasm:

marek won't play :(
stomach problems

I hope, we'll play a good match and win

Nabby is flying to Moscow :yo: :yo:

Is it really smart to take in players this late? I guess time will tell.

Is it really smart to take in players this late? I guess time will tell.

We don't have any depth in that department. I'll be ready take chances with Nabby if we win and Eremenko is shaky today

I don't get it, can a goalie put the net back in place by himself?

Good PK

1:0:yo: :yo: :yo: :yo: :yo:

Ole-Ole

Brylin will not play against Czechs. However, (he is ready to go and will play anywhere)
Tyutin will not play because of injury.

Nabakov should be in the net as soon as he is ready. No question about it.

Great patience by Frolov with the incredible pass. A real beauty :clap:

The game is slow. I don't get it, doesn't Russia understand that speed is the answer??

Bad idea by Czechs to take all these penalties.

Go Russia Go!

How Zina didn't score, I have no idea :shakehead

Wow this guy penalizes everybody :help:

loose= lose

loosing= losing


:handclap: :teach:

CAN ref is going crazy.. Penalizing left and right.

Nepryaev's doing fine :handclap:

Just jack up the speed!!

I don't like this: they will outshoot and outchance them severalfold, Chechmanek will keep it 1:0, then a couple of Czech counterattackes and we are irgled...

@Den:
May you give some brief comments about the game here and there e.g. scoring chance by xxx, hit by xxx, cause I have no opportunity to watch the game and the IIHF-liveticker isn't that amazing.

I don't get it, can a goalie put the net back in place by himself?

If the Czech net is off, and they attack the other way the reff should let the play go on. Don't know if its determined if a net can be put back or not, though often either a linesmen or the goalie puts it back if the play is gooing the other way.

Do we need Nabokov ? I like Eremenko :snide:

I don't like this: they will outshoot and outchance them severalfold, Chechmanek will keep it 1:0, then a couple of Czech counterattackes and we are irgled...

:biglaugh:

Irgl isn't that good, but he is a heck of a unconvential player. You never know what he is gooing to do.

I don't like this: they will outshoot and outchance them severalfold, Chechmanek will keep it 1:0, then a couple of Czech counterattackes and we are irgled... Thats how Czechs usually play... Thier game plan is to counterattack. Thats why it is important to score one more.

Hopefully Cechmanek will give up another one.

@Den:
May you give some brief comments about the game here and there e.g. scoring chance by xxx, hit by xxx, cause I have no opportunity to watch the game and the IIHF-liveticker isn't that amazing.

OK, I'll try

3-d period face off
Czechs attack, Plecanec a chance, Eremenko a save

Frolov had a chance, just shot in the goalie

Cechmanek is playing well in this one.

Some pressure by Czechs. Russia's slow

Kharitonov skating circles around the Czech net, Balastik a far off useless shot

thank you Den... I unable to watch the game as well... and really should be working instead...

Czechs play better these minutes. Some pressure again

Good for Russia that they got the first goal. It's no fun chasing a Czech lead.

Some good passing Malkin-Kovy, Malkin couldn't shoot. Eremenko a save on Hubaceck

Chechmanek a glove save on Zina

Morozov is not playing somehow

You're doing an amazing job Den.
Thanks a lot! :thumbu:

Ovy's flying out there.

Several sure chances for Russia. Radulov did all the work. Russia PP a penalty on Radulov. Chechmanek a save on Gonchar

Goal? no, no-goal. Hand play by Markov

AO on Morozov's spot

Goal? no, no-goal. Hand play by Markov No goal... For sure.

They look tired. AO's breathing heavily

Radulov is da man these minutes

Kulemin huge shot. Chechmanek seems hurt. AO is almost doubleshifted

Czechs PP. Nepryaev in the box.

Morozov back on the bench

Weak call on Nepryaev

They look tired. AO's breathing heavily
AO always look like that after a shift. He skates like crazy.
Weak call on Nepryaev
I don't know about that, I think it was a pretty obvious cross-checking. It the ref doesn't call that one, AO gets a great scoring chance because the Czech player was fouled.

Tikhonov....lol

Nothing too big happening for Czechs. Kharitonov breaking a pass on open Sykora. Good PK for Russia. PP over

Czechs seem to control the puck a little more.

Some pressure by Russia. Morozov a pass on the crease, nobody fnished. Eremenko a save on the counterattack, no rebound.

I thought it was a penalty on Morozov

Radulov, Gonchar shots

Gonchar stopped a pass on the Czech counterattack the other way

Russia PP. Smid in the box. Ak Bars on PP

Russia's not moving much on PP. Nikulin a shot. End of period. 50 more secs of PP in the 3-d

The kind of goalles game that I hate more than anything....:shakehead :shakehead :shakehead

Looks like Russians control this game. Yes Czech had some good moments but in last 40 minutes Russians look like a better team.

It would be nice to score on PP in 3rd.

Chechmanek is playing well... Damn it... Good that we already scored a goal. Czechs will have to attack and hopefully we will outplay them in the open game.

Without Chechmanek Russia would have 2-3 goal lead, but Russia is less agressive than before. If they are trying to play D more, then this strategy definitely works against Russia - there were more chances for Czechs in the 2-nd than in the 1-st

Czech style of play is infuriating.:pullhair:

Good to see that Ovi is playing well.

By the way, the Canadian commentators on IIWC Live seem to be in love with the Russian team. I don't think I have ever heard so many praises even from Russian commentators. :) Hopefully, they won't jinx us (tfu tfu tfu).

Way to go Den!

thx for the detailed ticker updates!

I can't watch the game either and the freaky pop up live ticker is a bit well .. disturbing sitting at the office with the chief always around :D

good job!

3-d period

2:0 Malkin !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees!!

Kovy a shot, a rebound, Malkin a one-handed tip into the net as he was skatinng behind the net :yo: :yo: :yo: :yo:

Kovalchuk is a team player... I do not care what anyone says about him.

@Den:
I suppose your fan-base will increase in the last period, cause I advertised your live-ticker in another board. :D

Russia two PP goals in this game

Kovalchuk is a team player... I do not care what anyone says about him.

The only people who say he is not r those who don't watch him play:)

I missed the goal. Who and how, please?

The only people who say he is not r those who don't watch him play:) He was a little selfish in the past... He did improve!!

Jeez, this Canadian ref :shakehead :shakehead :shakehead

Radulov had an unbuckled halmet - please in to the box

He was a little selfish in the past... He did improve!!

I'm not talking about his past, i am talking about the present, yet, there r some people who still say he is selfish, blah blah blah, and that's without watching him play, i think that's kinda amuzing:)

*** kind of penalty is that???

Should have updated the page before asking my question.

Russia counterattackes on the Czech PP, Schastlivy - a shot, a good chance. Chechmanek a save

Jeez, this Canadian ref :shakehead :shakehead :shakehead

Radulov had an unbuckled halmet - please in to the box
Is that a ref or the IIHF rules?

Markov a block on a god chance by Hubacek

It's the rules of course, but Radulov was out of play and was actually buckling it. So yes, it the ref :naughty:

Check this out....

Illegal or Dangerous Equipment (Equipment Infraction)

PP over

Markov hit the post.

It's the rules of course, but Radulov was out of play and was actually buckling it. So yes, it the ref :naughty:

U know my take on IIHF rules!:)

Markov - post, Kovy could not finish the rebound.

Ref is going to watch the video

It's a no goal of course

14 min to play

Yikes that was close

3?

:D Davit' xitrozhopix Chexov...

probably won't count

The puck is in the goal as the Czech D man was moving it.

:shakehead :shakehead

Such an obvious penalty - no not for this ref

The Czechs are getting nowhere right now.

Kovalchuk is a team player... I do not care what anyone says about him.

I'm glad Bykov came around and invited him. This team would not be nearly as good w/o/ Kovy.:yo:

Radulov - tenacious. Atyushev - holding and into the box

12.5 mins to play

Czech PP

Good PK so far

Schastlivy, Markov, Frolov - all cleared the puck at some point

End of PP

Loos like AO is on ZZM line

Nikulin skated the length and was putting the puck into the net behind Chechmanek - post. That was a sure chance

Czech are loosing it at this point

3:0 Radulov !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

hahahahahahahah...go, go, go

This game is over. The Czechs don't stand a chance.

:yo:

sounds like the czechs are doomed ...

.. considering there's no bias! :D

Darn good team this year from Russia ... no doubt

A long long attack for Russia, several chances. Chechmanek was out of the net at some point. And then Radulov finished

2-nd goal for Radulov

Looks like a game at this point and a total Russian dominance

HAHAHAHA .. Kovalchuk is playing D.

7 minutes to play

Radulov was one of the best this game

Russian net off the posts

Wow, what a crappy game by Czechs. Cechmanek is done.

Now Vyborny moves it off the posts again

Nice pass by Mr.referee on Radulov's goal!

In retrospect, Bykov was right about leaving Kovalev, Yashin, etc. off the team. These guys are hungry and having fun.:yo:

Wow, what a crappy game by Czechs. Cechmanek is done.

Crappy 3-d period, but you can't say crappy game

Zaripov misses empty net. :shakehead

Morozov in the box. Czech PP

4 mins to go. Eremenko a string of good saves. Schastlivy got a stick in the face. Why is this not a penalty??? A no, it is ... Zidlicky 2 mins in the box

Wow, what a crappy game by Czechs. Cechmanek is done. What do you mean Cechmanek is done. I though he played very well in 1st and 2nd.. Russians o-sive game is very strong. In this game they improved d-sive game and PK.

4 on 4

Cajanek - 10 mins in the box. Discipline

Malkin - a breakaway and one heeeeeeeeeeeelllll of a goalllllllllllll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

what Mlakin just did to Czech players was disgusting. He should be suspended for the rest of his life

Now that's a world class goal. Not classy of him to taunt the Czech bench though, that's just stupid of him.

Put Chechmanek down, around the net and into the empty corner
4:0 :yo: :yo: :yo:

la la la la la la la..

Karma... Czech did that to us a few times.. Our turn.

Schastlivy went down like he's been shot again.....somewhere Ruutu's laughing:biglaugh:

What a goal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now that's a world class goal. Not classy of him to taunt the Czech bench though, that's just stupid of him.

Didn't see that, to busy typing ...

what Mlakin just did to Czech players was disgusting. He should be suspended for the rest of his life lol...

Wow, always liked Malkin. Didn't know he was such a disgusting pice of shee-it.

Didn't belive my eyes. Can't belive someone pulls that of at this level. Completly unbeliveable.

4.5 mins to go

Czechs fell apart in the 4-th, but periods 1 and 2 were fine

Well that wasn't too much taunting and more like he mixed up the benches

That's just stupid, there wasn't much at all .What are you talking about ??

What a goal by Malkin. Didn't like the taunting part, but it could be blamed on immaturity. Anyway, that was pure class.

Yeah, I hear he's color blind.

Oh Malkin Malkin what did you do...not classy act at all...

So, what did he do?

Czech PP 5 on 3

Good PK so far

Well that wasn't too much taunting and more like he mixed up the benches
Well, he might have been confused because he was so aroused, but it certainly didn't look good on TV. ;) Players have been cheapshoted for less than that.

You don't taunt the other team when you have a big lead. You just don't.

Oh, please, the guy gets up from his knees. Begans to scream sees it's the other bench, turns away after a moment

So, what did he do?

Taunted the Czech bench as he skated by............obviously something he learned in Pittsburgh:p:

2 mins to go

Russia's attacking

Zaripov - tripping and into the box

a triumphant grin is not taunting, jebus. calm down, people.

The only question left is whether it will be "zip" for Czechs with these string of PPs at the end

Oh, please, the guy gets up from his knees. Begans to scream sees it's the other bench, turns away after a moment
You're always responsible for your own actions. If it was a mistake, it was a clumpsy one.

it's typical of russians...

A fight, kind of Mihalik-Emelin. Emelin is not pressing prudently

10 secs

You're always responsible for your own actions. If it was a mistake, it was a clumpsy one.

Yeah, but there was a sea of indignation here

All my money on Czech Republic for winning this game. :sarcasm:

OK, over

Eremenko - shutout :yo: :yo: :yo:

Thank you Team, Happy V-Day to all!!!

День Победы это хорошо, а двойной День Победы ишо лучше!!!

Although Malkin should be the best player this game, he won't be given it obviously

On a side note, Markov's shot is nasty. He could have scored twice today.

OMG, the gentleman next to mr tikhonov was wearing a very heavy jacket :amazed:

Olesz, Eremenko - best players

it's typical of russians...

Its not typical of russians. Maybe it was his nerves getting a bit out of hand...

OMG, the gentleman next to mr tikhonov was wearing a very heavy jacket :amazed:
That thing must be bulletproof.

And this little fight at the ending. Obviously Czechs wanted to revenge on Malkin

Since this is the last game for the Czechs, their 3 best players will be chosen now.

Its not typical of russians. Maybe it was his nerves getting a bit out of hand...


And yet it is...Remember all the junior chempionships? Remember all the interviews...

OMG, the gentleman next to mr tikhonov was wearing a very heavy jacket :amazed:

If that guy turns in his jacket at a resturant, the waitor better have a wheelbarrow... :biglaugh:

And they are Zidlicky, Vyborny and Chechmanek

And yet it is...Remember all the junior chempionships? Remember all the interviews...

If seen Russians play hockey for over 15 years, now, how many times must that be done to make it typical? A handful of times by a handful of players doesn't make it typical.

Great game by the Russians. Good luck in the future. Obviously I am cheering for Sweden, but if we won't win it, it would be great for the game if Russia wins this WCH. They need a success.

Wow, Morozov seems to know the lyrics of the Russian anthem, and so does AO :naughty: :naughty:

And Malkin doesn't

Heh... What a game. Czech are a strong team but what a win..

So far Russians answered all questions.

Heh... What a game. Czech are a strong team but what a win..

So far Russians answered all questions.

I'd say it's more like Czechs fell apart in the 4-th

If seen Russians play hockey for over 15 years, now, how many times must that be done to make it typical? A handful of times by a handful of players doesn't make it typical.

Great game by the Russians. Good luck in the future. Obviously I am cheering for Sweden, but if we won't win it, it would be great for the game if Russia wins this WCH. They need a success.

I've been watching it for 20 years, my friend (Russian Hockey that is)...And yes it's only typical in the past years since Kovalhuck's arrivals to the junior team, AO, Malkin, Radulov, Zubov (forward who played for Salavat this year) and others. All those stupid interviews, how they are always better than the opponent and such...Only started like 4-5 years ago...

I'd say it's more like Czechs fell apart in the 4-th In the 4th? 4th what? You mean 3rd?

I've been watching it for 20 years, my friend (Russian Hockey that is)...And yes it's only typical in the past years since Kovalhuck's arrivals to the junior team, AO, Malkin, Radulov, Zubov (forward who played for Salavat this year) and others. All those stupid interviews, how they are always better than the opponent and such...Only started like 4-5 years ago...
all that dearly cost them many games against Canada, especially on U-21 level.

Awesome win! WOW!

On a side note, props to TSN for showing the Russian national anthemn. Seriously, they did a great job on this game.

Vsekh s pobedoj! :handclap:

In the 4th? 4th what? You mean 3rd?

He was thinking Basketball:)

Congrats with two great Victories on this Day!

3-d allright

Wow, always liked Malkin. Didn't know he was such a disgusting pice of shee-it.

Didn't belive my eyes. Can't belive someone pulls that of at this level. Completly unbeliveable.

Great goals but he deserved to get his ass kicked for that stunt. He'll grow up some day...I hope.

Great goals but he deserved to get his ass kicked for that stunt. He'll grow up some day...I hope.

Jeez, we scored four goals, dominated the game, reached the semis, and people keep talking (already for 2-3 pages) about some little taunt that Malkin made!

Means Czech lost 4 in a row ... wooosh ... that didn't even manage the Germans :naughty:

Congrats to Russia...

I know this must get annoying but...

Any thoughts on the play of

Andrei Markov and Alexei Emelin thus far in this tournament

judging by stats it's seems Markov is playing very well.

and people keep talking (already for 2-3 pages) about some little taunt that Malkin made!
yeah and surprise,surprise they are all from sweden :D :sarcasm:

Damn, really curious as to what it was he did now. Youtube please :D

Damn, really curious as to what it was he did now. Youtube please :D


This is a canadian thing, they always make big deal out of things like that. Malkin scored a beauty, when skating towards the bench he just turned his head and gave half second look at the czechs. I can't believe we are still discussing it. That's why Canadian hockey is such a borefest.

Congrats to Russia...

I know this must get annoying but...

Any thoughts on the play of

Andrei Markov and Alexei Emelin thus far in this tournament

judging by stats it's seems Markov is playing very well.
Markov played amazing! 1 goal, hit the post once, blocked few shots, great on the PK, great on D in general. Neutralized most of Czech attacks when on the ice. Just superb all around play.

Emelin on the other hand sucked, everytime he had the puckin our zone I was afraid a turnover would result in a goal. In other games I didn't notice him much.

Any thoughts on who's better for us USA or Fin??

Could someone post the russians goals?
Thanks in advance

Is Morozov injured?

Jeez, we scored four goals, dominated the game, reached the semis, and people keep talking (already for 2-3 pages) about some little taunt that Malkin made!

Nope, not a big deal (overall) I agree but jeez, are we allowed to comment on it? Jeez, do you think you would've reacted if it was a Czheck who did it? Jeez, jeez, jeez. :sarcasm:

Wow, always liked Malkin. Didn't know he was such a disgusting pice of shee-it.

Didn't belive my eyes. Can't belive someone pulls that of at this level. Completly unbeliveable.


You obviously haven't watched the Czechs much in recent years, especially against Canada. What goes around comes around.

Good game by the Russians. They looked awesome, especially defensively which really surprised me. There's a lot of passion on that team, something that's been lacking a lot recently. It was great to hear the anthem, too, and see the fans' obvious pride. As long as we don't hear it again....

Is Morozov injured?


He appeared to hurt his knee in the second, left the game for 10 minutes, but came back. He didn't seem to take a regular shift after that, though.

Any videos of the Malkin goal and taunting?

1-0, Markov
http://www.sendspace.com/file/mptzd6
2-0, Malkin
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ywg0hl
3-0, Radulov
http://www.sendspace.com/file/39h4rx
4-0, Malkin
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ls0jim

The goal was a thing of beauty. The taunting i'd discount based on the fact Malkin is still a kid and will mature as time goes by.

Please someone post the goal on YouTube. please....:help:

woohoo!!!

I was at work, so I didn't jinx Russia's chances this time! :D

4-0! I can't wait to see the game.

I think having a real first line helps to this team Russia. Every time ZZM line was on the ice the Czechs had to back up. Even though they did not score this time I do believe they are a huge reason why this team plays so good. I just want togive some props to Proshkin. I know I heard a lot of bad things about this guy but I thought he was great.
What is up with Ovechkin? He has become so predictable? What is up with him losing the puck every second time he has the puck. He looks great as a checker though.

Could someone upload those videos of Malkin goal to youtube and provide links to?
:help:

Could someone upload those videos of Malkin goal to youtube and provide links to?
:help:

Here you go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcKw95u8U3Y

Here you go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcKw95u8U3Y
After a goal like that I would be looking at Czech bench for over 5 minutes.

With replays:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoEYZWABnYA

What is up with Ovechkin? He has become so predictable? What is up with him losing the puck every second time he has the puck. He looks great as a checker though.
He's on a cold streak. Happens to every athlete in every sport, just as you can be on fire and everything works somethimes.

Thank you! :handclap:

Just got back from the game. I was at the game with a friend of mine and we had excellent seats so we could see all game very good and I have few thoughts after all:
- Chechmanek is not a goalie - it's a joke.. he gave just a ton of rebounds in situations when I couldn't even imagine..
- Team Russia played extremely well on their own side, almost mistake free. Last time we played that good at our own half - it was a game against Canada in Turin.
- Ovechkin is looking more and more Kovalchuk-like :(
- Eremenko was solid. He had few good saves in the 3rd but I must admit that our defence played realy well.
- Malkin was flashy and dangerous every time he got the puck.
- Emelin is crease cleaning machine 2nd game in a row. He tries to level oposing player almost every time at the slot and he does success.
- Frolov was the best player on the ice, Imo. Yes, Malkin looked good but he was kind of flashy at times while Frolov looked dominant and impossible to beat every time on he was on the ice, I don't remember a bad shift, turnover, giveaway or bad decision from him ... Always calm and excellent decisions.. he creates just so much room for his partners and does a lot of dirty work.
- The friend of mine was great and I did enjoy time we spent togehter :D

IMO, Cechmanek played well. Without him, they lose even more.

- Ovechkin is looking more and more Kovalchuk-like :(

I wish! Cause Kovalchuk is playing great! Ovechkin is not working right. Russian machine is out of synch or something...;)

- Ovechkin is looking more and more Kovalchuk-like :(


totally agree ! He is like Kovalchuk 2 year ago :shakehead But ilya looks def. better for now. He learned a lot :handclap:

I am an anti-Kovalchuk fan but I must admit, I was surprisingly impressed with him and take my words back not wanting him on team Russia.

As for Ovechkin - he needs to rediscover himself. After two years in NHL playing on a crappy team it made him do things constantly which you wouldn't be doing on a great team. He is not a selfish player but he does look like one right now, his passing game is reduced to zero. Perhaps he should spend a year in Russia again to find his game again, like Jagr did when he played for Avangard.

.- Frolov was the best player on the ice, Imo. Yes, Malkin looked good but he was kind of flashy at times while Frolov looked dominant and impossible to beat every time on he was on the ice, I don't remember a bad shift, turnover, giveaway or bad decision from him ... Always calm and excellent decisions.. he creates just so much room for his partners and does a lot of dirty work.

Yay! I haven't really been keeping a tab on the Kings players in the WCs, but it's good to hear that Fro is getting the job done. Thanks. :)

Any thoughts on who's better for us USA or Fin??

USA, I'm afraid of strong trap tactical Finland! If we play like today I don't think USA would be much of a problem. Well, Finland wouldn't either but still... Actually I don't care, so far it looks great!

:yo: :yo: :handclap:

I am an anti-Kovalchuk fan but I must admit, I was surprisingly impressed with him and take my words back not wanting him on team Russia.

Yes, I am too and this year I was surprised by his play (except game vs. Sweden ;) ) and he looks OK for me and there is no offence to Kovalchuk in previous post but I couldn't describe this other way :)

Kaizer,
А скоко билеты стоят?

To all anti-Kovalchuck posters (former or current): what is wrong with u? How could u say he sucks without even watching him play for the Thrashers this season?!?!?! Oh, I know how, u've seen him who knows when and then u've read Krikunov's comments!:) Kovalchuk is one of the best players in the world, period! One of the best players on team Russia at this WC. Without him team Russia is a different team. Please, spare me posts about AK Bars line. Today I saw everything i needed to see: when "the real WC" began they did not do anything! And they played against the Czechs who (let's face it) did not have a very good team at this turnament. Bottom line, when push came to shove NHLers showed all of u why they r who they r!

To all anti-Kovalchuck posters (former or current): what is wrong with u? How could u say he sucks without even watching him play for the Thrashers this season?!?!?!!

Well, most fans can't care less about how Kovy is doing in Atalnta. Its his performance for NT that will eclipse anything else.

Please, spare me posts about AK Bars line. Today I saw everything i needed to see: when "the real WC" began they did not do anything! And they played against the Czechs who (let's face it) did not have a very good team at this turnament. Bottom line, when push came to shove NHLers showed all of u why they r who they r!

Ehh, this is a rather hasty one-game generalization. Like me saying all Russian NHLers are total crap cause they cowerdly folded in front of the Finns in the OG SF. :sarcasm:

If I had to choose between Kovalchuk and ZZM line I definitely chose ZZM line. Their improtance to this team is huge. While I did say that I was impressed with Kovalchuk meaning that his overall contrbution was great it was ZZM line that dictated the flow for the game. Every time Czechs would start pushing there was ZZM line taking the puck back and created a khaos in the Czech zone. It is not coincidence that Czech started playing much better in the second period when Morozov was out with minor injury.

Well, most fans can't care less about how Kovy is doing in Atalnta. Its his performance for NT that will eclipse anything else.

I understand that, what i was saying: How can people judge a player they don't watch?

Ehh, this is a rather hasty one-game generalization. Like me saying all Russian NHLers are total crap cause they cowerdly folded in front of the Finns in the OG SF. :sarcasm:
Maybe, but this is the ONLY game so far that actually meant something!:)

If I had to choose between Kovalchuk and ZZM line I definitely chose ZZM line. Their improtance to this team is huge. While I did say that I was impressed with Kovalchuk meaning that his overall contrbution was great it was ZZM line that dictated the flow for the game. Every time Czechs would start pushing there was ZZM line taking the puck back and created a khaos in the Czech zone. It is not coincidence that Czech started playing much better in the second period when Morozov was out with minor injury.

No comment.

Today I saw everything i needed to see: when "the real WC" began they did not do anything!
Ha-ha-ha :biglaugh: Stats of "the best player in the world" in "the real WC" games

U20 2001 PO 3 games - 0 points
OG 2002 PO 3 - 0
WC 2003 2nd stage 3 - 1
WC 2003 PO 1 - 0
WC 2004 2nd stage 3 - 0
WCup 2004 3 - 0
WCup 2004 PO 1 - 1
RSL 2005 PO 4 - 1
ET final 2 - 2 :amazed:
WC 2005 2nd stage 3 - 4 :amazed:
WC 2005 3 - 0
OG 2006 PO 3 - 0

Eh ?

what is wrong with u? How could u say he sucks without even watching him play for the Thrashers this season?!?!?! r!
What's wrong with me ? I don't care about Atlanta at all. He could win Hart, Art, Lester, Vezina there at the same season- I realy don't care. I care about National Tema where Kovlachuk played bad.


One of the best players on team Russia at this WC.
Who ?

Without him team Russia is a different team.
I agree here

This tournament, he doesn't look bad at all and dominant at times and I hope he will find his game in future

First of all,
Lets see how the best player in the world performed before ..

U20 2001 PO 3 games - 0 points
OG 2002 PO 3 - 0
WC 2003 2nd stage 3 - 1
WC 2003 PO 1 - 0
WC 2004 2nd stage 3 - 0
WCup 2004 3 - 0
WCup 2004 PO 1 - 1
RSL 2005 PO 4 - 1
ET final 2 - 2 :amazed:
WC 2005 2nd stage 3 - 4 :amazed:
WC 2005 3 - 0
OG 2006 PO 3 - 0

Eh ?

Second, It's about me but I don't care about Atlanta at all. He could win Hart, Art, Lester, Vezina there at the same season- I realy don't care. Yes, I care only about Colorado Avanche in NHL and for some reason I'm big time and die hard Team Russia fan but I don't care about nationality of a player for Colorado Avalnche.

Third, You are welcome. There are only few

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This tournament, he doesn't look bad at all and dominant at times and I hope he will find his game in future

Did u read my post? I've said THIS season. Who cares about 2002, 03, 04...? He improved a lot since then. As for finding his game, I think it's pretty safe to say that he found it a while ago.

Did u read my post? I've said THIS season. Who cares about 2002, 03, 04...? He improved a lot since then
Yes, I read and Yes, I do care about my favorite team and not about Atlanta Trashers.


As for finding his game, I think it's pretty safe to say that he found it a while ago.
Is it safe to describe this as "power forward after the whistle" or "big time fighter against 5'10 and below" ?

He improved a lot since then
A lot ? He improved just a bit..He just started to use his teammates a bit more ... For example, swedes were intercepting his cross ice passes time after time since 1st period and he still tried use this in the 3rd period and how many useless penalties did he take after the whistle ? ... It was good old Kovy :( But, yes he did improve and overall I am starting to like his game except useless penalties

Maybe, but this is the ONLY game so far that actually meant something!:)

But the 2002 OG SF also meant something. So did the 2006 OG bronze game. And surely the 2000 WC was meaningful :sarcasm:

Anybody who is claiming superiority of the Russian NHLers through the argument "they perform when it matters unlike RSLers" is really really on thin ice.

But the 2002 OG SF also meant something. So did the 2006 OG bronze game. And surely the 2000 WC was meaningful :sarcasm:

Anybody who is claiming superiority of the Russian NHLers through the argument "they perform when it matters unlike RSLers" is really really on thin ice.
I am talking about him this year only:) he improved, u know, when u 24 u can be better than when u were 20-22:)
U know as well as I know if Russia would send a team w/out NHLers to the Olympics, they would get destroyed there:)

Yes, I read and Yes, I do care about my favorite team and not about Atlanta Trashers.


Is it safe to describe this as "power forward after the whistle" or "big time fighter against 5'10 and below" ?


A lot ? He improved just a bit..He just started to use his teammates a bit more ... For example, swedes were intercepting his cross ice passes time after time since 1st period and he still tried use this in the 3rd period and how many useless penalties did he take after the whistle ? ... It was good old Kovy :( But, yes he did improve and overall I am starting to like his game except useless penalties

Am i sitting here and screaming "Lets go Thrashers"?!?!?! All I am saying is: before u judge a player, at least watch how he performs! If u can;t get this then i can;t help u!

I am talking about him this year only:) he improved, u know, when u 24 u can be better than when u were 20-22:)
U know as well as I know if Russia would send a team w/out NHLers to the Olympics, they would get destroyed there:)

Well, I am not talking about Kovy at all. I am talking about "NHLers vs RSLers". You could have said " NHLers are more skillful", or "they are more physical". But you chose to say "they perform better when it matters" :amazed:

Am i sitting here and screaming "Lets go Thrashers"?!?!?! All I am saying is: before u judge a player, at least watch how he performs! If u can;t get this then i can;t help u!

Ok, this year. I've watched few playoff games. What did happen except fight vs. Avery ? I watched game vs. Finland - yes, assist to Gonchar was nice. OK. Game vs. Sweden ? Lame penalty for roughing and nothing more. Game vs. Czech Republic ? except lucky assist to Malkin's goal which was lucky itself I failed to see something good. 3 games vs. good opponents and 1nice assist + 1 lucky assist ... woohoo.. I'm in love ... add there no physical play, not good defence, can't play pk, take dumb penalties ... Yeah, definitely the best player in the world this season.

totally agree ! He is like Kovalchuk 2 year ago :shakehead But ilya looks def. better for now. He learned a lot :handclap:

I've defenitly changed opinion on Kovalchuk. He have grown up.

I've defenitly changed opinion on Kovalchuk. He have grown up.


He looks better this year, than ever before. While Krikunov does have a big mouth, I still believe him, over a spoiled super star. Like someone said before, I don't care how good he's for the Thrashers, I care how good he is playing for Team Russia, and he's been very marginal to bad, except for this year, when he looks decent. Calling him a best player of the tournament is a far reach.

Now, let's see who our opponent will be in the semis. I tend to think that US would be more convinient for us, but both teams are great, so let's just wait and see.

Now, let's see who our opponent will be in the semis. I tend to think that US would be more convinient for us, but both teams are great, so let's just wait and see.

Malkin vs. Stastny would be nice. I'm all for it.

Well, Nabokov is out. Perhaps it is for the better in term that it will not create any controversy. Eremenko clearly deserved the win and it would be strange if he did not play the semifinal.

Well, Nabokov is out. Perhaps it is for the better in term that it will not create any controversy. Eremenko clearly deserved the win and it would be strange if he did not play the semifinal.

"The unforseen family circumstances" must be his wife telling him "hell no you are flying to Moscow to watch the game from the stands! Take care of you daughter here!"

I am not sure who I am more (un)comfortable with: Eremenko all the way, or jetlagged Nabby coming into this team :shakehead

Rabiner in SE:

В мае 95-го, за пять дней до 50-летнего юбилея Победы, тоже в четвертьфинале чемпионата мира, играли наши и чехи. Мой дед, яростный болельщик, ветеран Сталинграда и Курской дуги, посмотрел по телевизору как сборная России безлико проиграла - 0:2. А потом лег на кровать и умер. Это могло быть трагическим совпадением - но кто поручится, что его сердце не выдержало именно под воздействием отрицательных хоккейных эмоций?

Wow :shakehead

Nope, not a big deal (overall) I agree but jeez, are we allowed to comment on it? Jeez, do you think you would've reacted if it was a Czheck who did it? Jeez, jeez, jeez. :sarcasm:

You surely use "jeez: a lot :) .

It things were reversed, I would be more worried about how we lost 0:4 rather than about the taunt.

So how is markov play?

He is so quiet but effective with the habs and I was wondering if it was the same with team Russia!

So how is markov play?

He is so quiet but effective with the habs and I was wondering if it was the same with team Russia!

He is effective but not quiet! He scores, assists, defends... :handclap:

He is effective but not quiet! He scores, assists, defends... :handclap:

with quiet I was refering more to shy !
nice to hear that he's doing good. I'm also wondering if he's more vocal with the russian media than with the one in montreal.

with quiet I was refering more to shy !
nice to hear that he's doing good. I'm also wondering if he's more vocal with the russian media than with the one in montreal.
Well he's got an A on his sweater. I don't know if that speaks of anything though. But I couldn't care less, since Markov is probably the most important player on this team. He's unreplaceable.

I really hope Markov signs with the Capitals as a ufa; he and Ovechkin would be a deadly combination on the power play all year long; in fact for years ahead.

I really hope Markov signs with the Capitals as a ufa; he and Ovechkin would be a deadly combination on the power play all year long; in fact for years ahead.

If Markov wants to get Stanley Cup under his belt he won't sing with Caps... In fact Ovechkin will run away from that team as soon as he can.

You surely use "jeez: a lot :) .

It things were reversed, I would be more worried about how we lost 0:4 rather than about the taunt.

Sure, but you'd still react to that incident. I'm quite sure of that. :D

That being said, the whole thing is soon forgotten.

No Nabokov :yo:

Yes Markov is that much better than people in the NHL believe him to be. Was his last name not markov, but let's say Lattendresse...his poster would be on ever street of province Quebeck, and NHL would proclaim him the next Bobby Orr or something and he'd be playing 30 minutes a game. Since his last name is what it is, he's just considered solid, and his fame and minutes are taken by Sourray (woops another francophon) and such...IMHO

Markov should do what Perezhogin did, run from that team as fast as he possibly can and take Kovy+Sammy with him.

I can not wait to play USA..

ZMZ line is doing great.
Malkin/Kovalchuk/Frolov doing a lot better.

Bikov must get Ovechkin going and hopefully we will see Brylin next game.

I do not think USA will be able to stop Russian forwards, too young.

USA will have some problems with Finland who will fight for their lifes today.

I do not think USA will be able to stop Russian forwards, too young.

I'll bid one buck for the lion hide; and two bucks for the eagle feathers. You still a seller ? :biglaugh:

Withdrawn. I just noticed that the games are not played yet.

his fame and minutes are taken by Sourray (woops another francophon) and such...IMHO

Souray isn't a Francophone. He's Métis, an aboriginal Canadian group, and he was born in Alberta.