WC: May 7 GDT - Sweden vs. Russia

Predatore
05-07-2007, 04:17 AM
http://www.iihf.com/Hydra/Tournaments_07/output/WS/hydra.iihf.com/113/

Gozer
05-07-2007, 05:16 AM
Hopefully sweden can play with a little more intensity this game. Backlund needs to have another strong game.

Den
05-07-2007, 05:20 AM
I want us to loose this game: I would be much much more comfortable playing Slovaks rather than the Czechs.

Yabob
05-07-2007, 05:21 AM
I think it is said that Henriksson will play this game (if he is healthy).... otherwise Ersberg will play. BÅG is saving Backlund for the quarterfinal.

Den
05-07-2007, 05:28 AM
I think it is said that Henriksson will play this game (if he is healthy).

Will give the game away to his future employers :sarcasm:

Chimp
05-07-2007, 08:04 AM
Bengt-Åke Gustafsson said "We will not burn too much gunpowder in this game." Don't expect neither the Russians nor the Swedes to play with that much intensity in this meaningless game before the QF.

Ersberg will probably be in net, Henriksson seems to be sick.

LLl T O 17 O P
05-07-2007, 08:06 AM
Just have reviewed all goals in our net.
Koshechkin has made no mistakes!!!!!
Maybe his 1'st goal but there was a swiss guy who closed the vision to him.

2'nd and 3'rd were annoying ricochet from the skates of our def's!

So Great respect to our goalie Koshechkin!

GuloGulo
05-07-2007, 08:41 AM
Gustafsson's brought in Magnus Kahnberg and Mattias Mansson to complete the roster. That means no more NHL dudes. That also means that tonight's team will, with one or two swaps, be the one to complete the tournament.

cska78
05-07-2007, 09:05 AM
I dunno if Russia has any more spots to bring players, as the injuries suspensions are coming in...I mean are we gonna play with 10 forwards today???? I would ask Mozyakin to come...

Macman
05-07-2007, 09:11 AM
It's a good thing they no longer allow ties otherwise this thing could end up 0-0 as both teams try to avoid the Czechs in the quarters.

The Swedes will win 1-0 in OT or a shootout because the Russians will do what it takes to lessen their chances of leaving without a medal at home.

Kronblom
05-07-2007, 09:12 AM
Remember that Erik Ersberg and Vasiliy Koshechkin have played against each other before, they met during the Channel One Cup (http://www.swehockey.se/t2b.asp?p=345442) before christmas. Sweden won that game in Moscow after a shootout and Erik stopped all 31 russian shots.

I reckon he will have a more busier game tonight...


Short video with Frolov about the game:
http://svt.se/svt/road/Classic/shared/mediacenter/index.jsp?d=68640&a=821563

Kronblom
05-07-2007, 09:15 AM
It's a good thing they no longer allow ties otherwise this thing could end up 0-0 as both teams try to avoid the Czechs in the quarters.

The Swedes will win 1-0 in OT or a shootout because the Russians will do what it takes to lessen their chances of leaving without a medal at home.
I think Sweden will have more problem with Slovakia and their offense, the czechs seems to be an easier opponent for us - on paper.

pappa jan
05-07-2007, 09:18 AM
Does anyone know if Månsson and Kahnberg will play?! Hedström is out, or so i've heard so that would mean one of them should play. I expect russia to win this game as i don't see BÅG risking any injuries in this one. In the post-show studio-interview yesterday, BÅG was very excited to hear the final result between the Czech Republic and Canada. Had Czech lost the game, (which they did BUT in OT) Germany could've taken the last QF spot with a win over Italy?! in the last game. Now we we'll meet either Czech or Slovakia depending on the outcome in the russia game.
BÅG's apperent interest in the game indicates (to me) that he doesn't care if we'll meet the Czech or Slovakia, but would try to win the game more if Germany in QF was in the pot.

Madness
05-07-2007, 09:20 AM
The Russians won't play to lose, not in Russia!!!

hdw
05-07-2007, 09:31 AM
The Russians won't play to lose, not in Russia!!!

Noone is talking about 'play to lose'.

It's about using all players, roll the lines, don't get injuries (and no suspensions).

It's like the final game of a season when both teams are cleared for playoff and the seed doesn't really matter much.
Any sane coach in any league or tournament would try to win but with minimal impact on his team.

Yes you can argue if Cze or Svk is the easiest but the diff is minimal.

But no matter what, the real test for both teams is the next game, a single game quarter final.

Just imagine the reaction if both teams would play for their lives, Morozov getting hurt, Kenny Jönsson ejected and suspended, and both teams losing their quarters.

Heads would roll on both sides of the baltic sea.

Blame the format and/or the circumstances, but this one is a friendly.

Kronblom
05-07-2007, 09:31 AM
Latest news:

Jonathan Hedström, Kenny Jönsson and Fredrik Warg will sit out tonight's game and both Kahnberg and Månsson are expected to play. Ersberg will be in goal with Backlund as the backup.

I believe the heavy hit Kenny sustained yesterday may be the reason to why he´s scratched.


http://www.hockeyligan.se/nyheter.php?nid=11497
(in swedish)

Madness
05-07-2007, 09:57 AM
Noone is talking about 'play to lose'.

It's about using all players, roll the lines, don't get injuries (and no suspensions).

It's like the final game of a season when both teams are cleared for playoff and the seed doesn't really matter much.
Any sane coach in any league or tournament would try to win but with minimal impact on his team.

Yes you can argue if Cze or Svk is the easiest but the diff is minimal.

But no matter what, the real test for both teams is the next game, a single game quarter final.

Just imagine the reaction if both teams would play for their lives, Morozov getting hurt, Kenny Jönsson ejected and suspended, and both teams losing their quarters.

Heads would roll on both sides of the baltic sea.

Blame the format and/or the circumstances, but this one is a friendly.

Yes but in such games often individual efforts decide the outcome, and the way I see it the Russians want to win this more than the Swedes and have more "individual effort" players.

Pushkin*
05-07-2007, 10:03 AM
Slovakia is the most dangerous opponent. In a one off game i'd be more scared by Demitra Hossa Gaborik Chara than Plekanec Vyborny Olesz and both team's goalie are capable of good and bad so I don't understand those who prefer playing Slovakia?? Tonight the game is to be won so to not face Gaborik and coe and to not face Canada in the 1/2... Russia 4-1

hdw
05-07-2007, 10:17 AM
Yes but in such games often individual efforts decide the outcome, and the way I see it the Russians want to win this more than the Swedes and have more "individual effort" players.

True.

But 'individual effort' can easily become 'stupid turnover'.

I do think that Russia will win this one, but it could very well go either way.

Winner
05-07-2007, 10:38 AM
Russia should win. We stand no chance against Sweden, Russia is at least defeatable with some luck.

Madness
05-07-2007, 11:20 AM
I think the Swedish team has some kind of a winning streak against team Czech republic.

dmonk
05-07-2007, 01:18 PM
I think Slovakia is harder opponent to win this year.
This one should be a friendly game. I hope we will see some open hockey today.

Kind of the game "All stars" game we saw in Dallas.

Den
05-07-2007, 01:22 PM
Russia wasted the first PP. No desire on that one.

Den
05-07-2007, 01:23 PM
Radulov is a showman

dmonk
05-07-2007, 01:24 PM
Looked like diving to me:sarcasm:

Den
05-07-2007, 01:30 PM
Sweden 1:0. Good :yo: :yo:

Den
05-07-2007, 01:32 PM
Eremenko has to move quicker :shakehead

hdw
05-07-2007, 01:35 PM
Now we'll see if Russia can do what Finland couldn't, step up the offence while not doing defensive mistakes.

Den
05-07-2007, 01:38 PM
Now we'll see if Russia can do what Finland couldn't, step up the offence while not doing defensive mistakes.

It doesn't look like there much desire to do much at all

There was a trip on the Kovy no-goal :shakehead

Devs
05-07-2007, 01:38 PM
Should've been a goal

Chimp
05-07-2007, 01:38 PM
Yup, the Swedish commentators thought it should be a no-goal and a tripping call.

The Russians are pressuring, but open up for mistakes at behind. There have been a couple of good scoring chances for both teams.

hdw
05-07-2007, 01:38 PM
Russia robbed by the ref, in anyway you look.

Either it was a goal or it was a tripping by Strålman.

Well, well, can't call the ref homer at least :)

hdw
05-07-2007, 01:42 PM
It doesn't look like there much desire to do much at all


Nah, that's a bit mean.
The russians looks like they want something.
Looked like a pp while on 5-5 for a while.

Chimp
05-07-2007, 01:44 PM
Very nice game to watch so far.

There was the makeup call. No way that was a penalty shot.

cska78
05-07-2007, 01:46 PM
Very nice game to watch so far.


p-shot!!!

Den
05-07-2007, 01:46 PM
Penalty shoooooooot. I like it:yo:

dmonk
05-07-2007, 01:46 PM
Ahh... so nice to see how friendly russian and swedish fans to each other....
let's wait until we meet again in the final :sarcasm:

Den
05-07-2007, 01:46 PM
A marginal p-shot call .... 1:1

cska78
05-07-2007, 01:47 PM
thing of beuty

Devs
05-07-2007, 01:48 PM
GREAT shot. Why isn't he in the NHL again?

dmonk
05-07-2007, 01:48 PM
very nice goal..
but there was something...
how come Haritonov was hooked and Morozov executed penalty shot?
in NHL the player offended must do the shot

hdw
05-07-2007, 01:48 PM
Ahh... so nice to see how friendly russian and swedish fans to each other....
let's wait until we meet again in the final :sarcasm:

That's something completely different, this is a friendly :)

The penalty was incorrect, but you where robbed before so it evens out (like the man who crapped on his bicycle seat said) :)

Den
05-07-2007, 01:48 PM
Russia, tenacious

hdw
05-07-2007, 01:49 PM
GREAT shot. Why isn't he in the NHL again?

No NHL team can afford him.

dmonk
05-07-2007, 01:49 PM
GREAT shot. Why isn't he in the NHL again?

He's been paid 4mil in RSL... who would pay him that much in NHL?

It's probably time to change the avatar ;)

Den
05-07-2007, 01:49 PM
GREAT shot. Why isn't he in the NHL again?

Because you don't pay well enough

Chimp
05-07-2007, 01:52 PM
I knew Morozov would do that backhand move, it's his favourite one. If I was a Swedish goaltender coach, I would have yelled at our goalie to go all out on the glove.

I can understand why Morozov prefers that move though, he's very good at it and it's very tough to save.

And yeah, he doesn't play in NHL because no franchise would pay him $4 million I think, as he earns in RSL.

Den
05-07-2007, 01:53 PM
A double checking from behind. :teach: :teach: Ref, back to school :teach:

Kovy called Morozov "Moro" :biglaugh: :biglaugh:

dmonk
05-07-2007, 01:53 PM
looks like thanks to ref the situation on the ice isn't so friendly

Systemfel
05-07-2007, 01:53 PM
Crappiest penalty shot call ever.

Devs
05-07-2007, 01:53 PM
No boarding call there on the Swedes?

Also, this is the first time I've really seen "European" style hockey... is this what you guys would call a normal match?

Paxton Fettel
05-07-2007, 01:53 PM
A double checking from behind. :teach: :teach: Ref, back to school :teach:


It was so obvious, I can't believe there was no call. :amazed:

Paxton Fettel
05-07-2007, 01:54 PM
No boarding call there on the Swedes?

Also, this is the first time I've really seen "European" style hockey... is this what you guys would call a normal match?

errr ... this, coming from a Devils fan? :biglaugh:

Vikke
05-07-2007, 01:54 PM
Game's much better than I expected.
:)

Riddarn
05-07-2007, 01:55 PM
Pretty nice first period. A lot more entertaining than the crapfest against Finland yesterday.

Devs
05-07-2007, 01:55 PM
He's been paid 4mil in RSL... who would pay him that much in NHL?

It's probably time to change the avatar ;)

Fair enough. Is he the best player in the RSL then?

I'll get around to the avatar... stupid playoff loses

Chimp
05-07-2007, 01:56 PM
No boarding call there on the Swedes?

Also, this is the first time I've really seen "European" style hockey... is this what you guys would call a normal match?
Naw, Morozov just got trapped between two Swedish players. ;)

Well, I guess you can call this "European style hockey", but it's a little bit more offensive than usual. Normally I think both teams would dedicate more defensively, but there are alot of offensively skilled players on the ice, so I can see why both teams have a hard time defending.

And yes, Morozov is probably the best player in RSL. I think he looks alot better now than when he played in NHL, it probably has to do with the atmosphere (the right line mates) and that he receives more ice time.

Crazyhorse
05-07-2007, 01:56 PM
Great game to watch so far, IMO.

It's nice to see Tärnström stepping up as our best d-man in the absence of K.Jönsson.

Slava Fetisov in the swedish tv-studio! :handclap:

hdw
05-07-2007, 01:56 PM
I knew Morozov would do that backhand move, it's his favourite one. If I was a Swedish goaltender coach, I would have yelled at our goalie to go all out on the glove.


We have a goalie coach? Since when? :)

But I have to say that Bengan did absolutely right when he told Ersberg to play.

If you have to chose to play your 'best' goalie to play and tell him "do your best but what ever you do, don't get hurt" versus playing your 'third' and say "here's your chance, go for it", the second is always better.

Devs
05-07-2007, 01:58 PM
errr ... this, coming from a Devils fan? :biglaugh:

It's not hockey if it's not the trap ;)

Seriously though, lots more passing, not as consistantly physical, but it seems like players go out of their way for the big hits. There was a Swede who stepped up and tried to level a Russian coming across the blue line, but ended up missing. That, and the hit against Morozov.

hdw
05-07-2007, 01:59 PM
Slava Fetisov in the swedish tv-studio! :handclap:

Of course, Sweden is playing with a single NHL player, Fetisov likes that :)

Paxton Fettel
05-07-2007, 02:01 PM
Slava Fetisov in the swedish tv-studio! :handclap:

If only he'd show up in the Russian studio ...

Chimp
05-07-2007, 02:02 PM
It's not hockey if it's not the trap ;)

Seriously though, lots more passing, not as consistantly physical, but it seems like players go out of their way for the big hits. There was a Swede who stepped up and tried to level a Russian coming across the blue line, but ended up missing. That, and the hit against Morozov.
That's the thing, the bigger ice surface makes it easier to keep the puck in the team and each and every player on the ice know how to pass the puck. You see alot more often that a skilled team keeps the puck in possession while making the line change instead of just dumping it. That's also why there are less hits, it can be a positional mistake defensively to leave your position for a big hit, more than on a small rink.

Skill is favoured over physical play when the European players practice.

Paxton Fettel
05-07-2007, 02:05 PM
Jesus, the Russian commentators are predicting a 5-0 or 6-0 Russian win in the 2nd period.

cska78
05-07-2007, 02:07 PM
Crappiest penalty shot call ever.
I dunno, it looked like he was about to break 1 on 1...Blaming the refs is like blaming the wheather, we just have to live with their blunders unfortunetly.

Vikke
05-07-2007, 02:07 PM
Jesus, the Russian commentators are predicting a 5-0 or 6-0 Russian win in the 2nd period.

Are you serious?

Chimp
05-07-2007, 02:07 PM
Jesus, the Russian commentators are predicting a 5-0 or 6-0 Russian win in the 2nd period.
A little bit more biased than their Swedish counterparts I guess. ;)

OT to all Swedes, that Beijer commercial on the Swedish TV when the guy is making the dog hatch is awesome.
Click the picture and play the left one.
http://www.beijerbygg.se/templates/BB_ByggradStart.aspx?id=216

Vikke
05-07-2007, 02:08 PM
I dunno, it looked like he was about to break 1 on 1...Blaming the refs is like blaming the wheather, we just have to live with their blunders unfortunetly.

Thing is, he took away the puck first.
Might've been a hooking just moments before that, but penalty shot? No.

Den
05-07-2007, 02:10 PM
Wow, close

hdw
05-07-2007, 02:10 PM
Jesus, the Russian commentators are predicting a 5-0 or 6-0 Russian win in the 2nd period.

Live with it.

Media (and federations) want every game to be huge do or die "now it's time to get even!", "now we'll show 'em!","we will rock you!" yada yada yada.

They make money on the intrest on the games.

Fact is that it isn't.
Bengan again hit the swedish headlines with "we shouldn't blow all we have against Russia, there's a more important game coming up".

And Fetisov in the swedish studio said "I'd guess that the intensity will go down in the second, there's bigger games coming up later on".

Systemfel
05-07-2007, 02:11 PM
A diving call on Russia, finally.

Den
05-07-2007, 02:12 PM
A little bit more biased than their Swedish counterparts I guess. ;)

OT to all Swedes, that Beijer commercial on the Swedish TV when the guy is making the dog hatch is awesome.
Click the picture and play the left one.
http://www.beijerbygg.se/templates/BB_ByggradStart.aspx?id=216

Ahh, please, and obvious quip. The first commentator asked a stupid question what's the 2-nd period scoreline, got an obviously humorous answer.

Wow, Morozov goes to the box :amazed:

Chimp
05-07-2007, 02:12 PM
Close shot in the post there. The Swedes are obviously having as a game plan to throw in guys in net, trying to screen, redirect and grabbing rebounds. I like it. Alot.

Oh crap, defensive breakdown. Inexcusable to leave a Russian totally alone in front of the net.

Den
05-07-2007, 02:14 PM
Nice :yo: :yo:

And for the love of God look at the scorer :amazed:

Like Wall
05-07-2007, 02:15 PM
It's time to even the score up, huh, Swedes?

Den
05-07-2007, 02:15 PM
This 4 on 4 looked like a Russian PP

Den
05-07-2007, 02:17 PM
Kulemin doesn't know when to shoot :shakehead

hdw
05-07-2007, 02:17 PM
Close shot in the post there. The Swedes are obviously having as a game plan to throw in guys in net, trying to screen, redirect and grabbing rebounds. I like it. Alot.

Well obviously.
Russia rules the offensive play, but they are more human in their D and goaltending.

Now we'll see what happens with the game, 2-1 russia.

On a sidenote.

For my Swedish ears and lousy TV background audio it sounds like the audience is shouting "Lat-Vi-A", but a qualified guess is that they aren't :)

Paxton Fettel
05-07-2007, 02:20 PM
I want a big brawl! :D

Like Wall
05-07-2007, 02:20 PM
For my Swedish ears and lousy TV background audio it sounds like the audience is shouting "Lat-Vi-A", but a qualified guess is that they aren't :)

I know, you miss us much. But for some miraculous reason we will be playing in Canada!
Oh, Canada!

hdw
05-07-2007, 02:20 PM
Erh?
What's happening? Someone looking for an NHL contract?

Fighting, in a game like this?

dmonk
05-07-2007, 02:22 PM
The ref is from Canada.... He keeps reminding players they need to fight there are NHL scouts watching from the seats. :sarcasm:

Jokerit Wasp
05-07-2007, 02:24 PM
Crappiest penalty shot call ever.
Agree 100%. Wasnt even a penalty, never mind a PS.

hdw
05-07-2007, 02:25 PM
Fighting, in a game like this?

Ok, "applying of gloved hand in opponents face area", shouldn't call it fighting.

ThirdEye
05-07-2007, 02:26 PM
What the hell happened there with Malkin

Jokerit Wasp
05-07-2007, 02:27 PM
good call on the Malkin offside...

What has Russia got against Hornqvist?!

Kaizer
05-07-2007, 02:27 PM
Kovalchuk is retarded.. no realy, I have to say this.

Den
05-07-2007, 02:27 PM
Agree 100%. Wasnt even a penalty, never mind a PS.

Didn't even happen. :sarcasm:

Den
05-07-2007, 02:28 PM
What the hell Mansson wants?

Paxton Fettel
05-07-2007, 02:29 PM
I want a fight!!!

PS. Ilya is an idiot.

Chimp
05-07-2007, 02:29 PM
Oh come on, stupid crowd. Don't throw stuff on the ice, it's so stupid it's not even funny.

Now that's crap. That should be a 5 on 3 for Sweden.

Den
05-07-2007, 02:30 PM
Oh come on, stupid crowd. Don't throw stuff on the ice, it's so stupid it's not even funny.

Tha looked like the goalie bottle

Jeez this is turning into a boxing match :biglaugh: :biglaugh:

Paxton Fettel
05-07-2007, 02:30 PM
Meat!!! Bones!!! Blooood!

hdw
05-07-2007, 02:30 PM
Kovalchuk is retarded.. no realy, I have to say this.

Don't be so sure, there's a lot of 'posturing' going on.

But we can always hope that the Russian players will cave in to the audience and do silly things.

Erh, or rather more silly things.

Systemfel
05-07-2007, 02:31 PM
Some cowardly play by the Russians, eh?

dmonk
05-07-2007, 02:31 PM
and we were predicting a friendly game

What did Kovalchuk do? I had to step out and didn't see the moment/

Jussi
05-07-2007, 02:31 PM
What the hell happened there with Malkin

He went offside.

Kaizer
05-07-2007, 02:32 PM
Don't be so sure, there's a lot of 'posturing' going on.


I understand this but there is only one "power forward after the whistle" in both teams so far.

ThirdEye
05-07-2007, 02:32 PM
He went offside.

Yeh, got it after they showed the replay. Pretty obvious too

Den
05-07-2007, 02:32 PM
Some cowardly play by the Russians, eh?

Eh?

Chimp
05-07-2007, 02:33 PM
As a side parenthesis, wth is Jörgen Jönsson doing on the PP? He has been ice cold offensively and couldn't hit the side of a barn right now.

The ref is losing the control of this game, he can't handle it.

Paxton Fettel
05-07-2007, 02:33 PM
Morozov with a blocked shot!!!

WOW!!

Just WOOOOOOOOOW! :clap:

Systemfel
05-07-2007, 02:34 PM
Eh?Jumping guys from behind, cross checking players who are down. :dunno:

Den
05-07-2007, 02:34 PM
Kahnberg=Kovy

1:1 as far as idiotic penalties

Paxton Fettel
05-07-2007, 02:34 PM
LOL @ Proshkin!

Kaizer
05-07-2007, 02:34 PM
Some cowardly play by the Russians, eh?

Did you mean Khanberg when you said Russians ? :D

Den
05-07-2007, 02:35 PM
Jumping guys from behind, cross checking players who are down. :dunno:

Diving, showboating, being girlies, being commies :sarcasm:

Systemfel
05-07-2007, 02:36 PM
Did you mean Khanberg when you said Russians ? :DDon't know, maybe he's just paying back.

Den
05-07-2007, 02:36 PM
Morozov :shakehead :shakehead

hdw
05-07-2007, 02:36 PM
Ripping the helmet of a player, lieing on the ice, after the whistle, is an accident? Oh well :)

I would have understood this in a non-important game against Canada, to state their point. But Russia?

There's a lot of things to fear about this Russian team, but the physical edge isn't exactly one of them.

Now, please Bengan Boys, stay cool, no injuries, no suspensions.

Den
05-07-2007, 02:37 PM
I don't like it. They will have a whole team brawl and will be DQed as in the WJC

Den
05-07-2007, 02:39 PM
Somebody is sour

Kaizer
05-07-2007, 02:39 PM
Don't know, maybe he's just paying back.

Yeah, to Radulov and Zaripov who are the russians biggest pests :sarcasm:

hdw
05-07-2007, 02:39 PM
Diving, showboating, being girlies, being commies :sarcasm:

Diving, check.
Showboating, check.
Girlies, check.
Being commies, what?

Hey!
We are the commies, erh socialists.
Erh, to late, our goverment is lead by "the new workers' party", aka conservatives.

Systemfel
05-07-2007, 02:40 PM
Yeah, to Radulov and Zaripov who are the russians biggest pests :sarcasm:Maybe they're all the same to him. ;)

Matti_A
05-07-2007, 02:41 PM
And yes, Morozov is probably the best player in RSL. I think he looks alot better now than when he played in NHL, it probably has to do with the atmosphere (the right line mates) and that he receives more ice time.

If memory serves me Morozov was very impressive in the nhl. He used to be a dependable point-getter for my fantasy team.

He played on the first line in Pittsburgh too I think, wasn't it called the KLM-line with him and Kovalev and Lemieux. :huh:

Den
05-07-2007, 02:41 PM
Girlies, check

Girlies-Real Men 2:1

hdw
05-07-2007, 02:42 PM
Girlies-Real Men 2:1

Touché :)

Kaizer
05-07-2007, 02:42 PM
Girlies-Real Men 2:1

Good thing they didn't invite all-mighty trio to play against girlies. I would be scared ;)

Dawit49
05-07-2007, 02:42 PM
Bäckström has zero balance

Dawit49
05-07-2007, 02:43 PM
Noooooooooooooooooo 2-2!!!

Chimp
05-07-2007, 02:43 PM
Girlies-Real Men 2:1
You just jinxed the Russian team. ;)

Steen shows some pure Swedish skills, haha.

Paxton Fettel
05-07-2007, 02:44 PM
lol what a goal!!!

Den
05-07-2007, 02:44 PM
Crappy goal.

The Real Men didn't seem too excited about evening up

hdw
05-07-2007, 02:44 PM
Bäckström has zero balance

Jinx number 2. :)

Cush
05-07-2007, 02:44 PM
nice pass by Backstrom

Den
05-07-2007, 02:45 PM
You just jinxed the Russian team. ;)

I wish I had this power. Gimme Svk!!!

ThirdEye
05-07-2007, 02:46 PM
Crappy goal.

The Real Men didn't seem too excited about evening up

haha, I didn't even know it was a goal until like a minute after. That was a weak

Den
05-07-2007, 02:46 PM
Radulov should have shot :shakehead

hdw
05-07-2007, 02:47 PM
Crappy goal.

The Real Men didn't seem too excited about evening up

And the girlie russian looked like he was trying to figure out his own gender :)

But agreed, crappy goal.

Like Wall
05-07-2007, 02:47 PM
The hockey starts with the 3rd per.

Paxton Fettel
05-07-2007, 02:48 PM
nice game overall. intense.

Dawit49
05-07-2007, 02:50 PM
Jinx number 2. :)

haha shut up. Got 200 on Russia :cry:

hdw
05-07-2007, 02:52 PM
nice game overall. intense.

Could it be that since it isn't do or die that both teams actually play in a way that they wouldn't if this was a (quarter/semi) final?

It looks like it's more about sending a message to the other team than really bothering about tactical dispositions.

Like "don't get hurt, don't get suspended", but otherwise give 'em hell.

I'm surprised, I had expected a much more laidback game.

Crazyhorse
05-07-2007, 02:52 PM
Good game, considering there isn't much at stake. I believe that both teams really wan't to win this game, they are both putting up a solid effort.

I where just about to go on a rant about Bäckström, but he kept me silent with that pass.

Riddarn
05-07-2007, 02:54 PM
Pretty darn entertaining stuff, for a meaningless game like this. Nice intensity, some emotion and some nice plays as well. Lets hope the third is as good.

dmonk
05-07-2007, 02:57 PM
Sweden will win the game in 3-rd period. I think

hdw
05-07-2007, 03:08 PM
Pretty darn entertaining stuff, for a meaningless game like this. Nice intensity, some emotion and some nice plays as well. Lets hope the third is as good.

Pretty wierd.
There was almost fights on the ice.

Or at least gloved fists hitting the opponents' visors, but in a game like this?

I can almost hear the coaches shouting "heel boy!" to the players, while they are starting to invent new extensions to Swedish and Russian.

One would wonder, when they're exchanging vacation memories on the ice, are they speaking english or are they expecting their opponent to understand russian/swedish?

And the ref appears to be french canadian, so they can speak english :)

Den
05-07-2007, 03:08 PM
Ersberg not so shoddy.

Nepryaev - weakest link:thumbd:

Den
05-07-2007, 03:10 PM
Our defense is too passive on PK

Paxton Fettel
05-07-2007, 03:11 PM
I'm impressed with Sweden's positionning and passing.

And Russia's defense ... horribly sucks.

Den
05-07-2007, 03:11 PM
Malkin is coming of age this game :yo:

Den
05-07-2007, 03:12 PM
And Russia's defense ... horribly sucks.

Who cares! Watch the cheerleaders!

hdw
05-07-2007, 03:13 PM
Our defense is too passive on PK

You have a defense? :)

Must be a national secret.

In post soviet russia, defense defends you :)

Den
05-07-2007, 03:14 PM
You have a defense? :)

Must be a national secret.

In post soviet russia, defense defends you :)

It's drying up, your humor

Den
05-07-2007, 03:17 PM
Well, they always have cheerleaders in the RSL. There's actually a special platrform for that in most RSL arenas

No Nordic gender equality, sorry :sarcasm:

Weide
05-07-2007, 03:19 PM
No Nordic gender equality, sorry :sarcasm:

No nordic quality on the girls either. :naughty:

Den
05-07-2007, 03:20 PM
Malkin comes off age :yo: :yo:

Like Wall
05-07-2007, 03:20 PM
what now? 3:2

Den
05-07-2007, 03:22 PM
No nordic quality on the girls either. :naughty:

Swedish girs rule :handclap: Many of them really catch my eye here in Stockholm. :handclap: Most surprise me by speaking Russian though

Den
05-07-2007, 03:23 PM
Common, Real Man !! I want Svk !

Kaktus
05-07-2007, 03:23 PM
About time Malkin scored.....
Damn it. Too bad Ovechkin is resting today.

hdw
05-07-2007, 03:24 PM
Swedish girs rule :handclap: Many of them really catch my eye here in Stockholm. :handclap: Most surprise me by speaking Russian though

I'd say the same with beautiful girls in London, but they all appear the be Danish :)

Chimp
05-07-2007, 03:24 PM
I would favour Russia wins than going to OT.

Den
05-07-2007, 03:26 PM
Eremenko was out of position at some point.

Den
05-07-2007, 03:27 PM
Proshkin idiot, don't touch the ref!!!!

Paxton Fettel
05-07-2007, 03:27 PM
Vitaly "Hannibal" Proshkin!

Paxton Fettel
05-07-2007, 03:28 PM
Sweden WILL score

hdw
05-07-2007, 03:29 PM
Hmm, 'punching' eachother is one thing.

But removing the helmet from the linesmen?

Wierd game, no matter how it ends.

cska78
05-07-2007, 03:30 PM
Swedish girs rule :handclap: Many of them really catch my eye here in Stockholm. :handclap: Most surprise me by speaking Russian though

classy!!!!

Den
05-07-2007, 03:31 PM
Morzov +1 on Davidson :handclap:

hdw
05-07-2007, 03:33 PM
Not deserved obviously.

But a classy goal :)

Den
05-07-2007, 03:33 PM
I tend to agree with the stupid Tavtvtvttv...ladze that they have to keep ZZM by all possible means :handclap:

Paxton Fettel
05-07-2007, 03:34 PM
Sorry Swedes, I jinxed you.

Chimp
05-07-2007, 03:34 PM
Quite crappy defensive play, but credit to Morozov for showing goal instinct.

Russia on to Czech Republic and Sweden will face Slovakia. Both got the team they didn't want to face. ;)

Buya89
05-07-2007, 03:34 PM
Zinovjev can pass eh!!
:handclap:

Den
05-07-2007, 03:35 PM
Eremnko may be stealing #1 for himself

Kaizer
05-07-2007, 03:36 PM
Was real man shot in the leg or what ?

Den
05-07-2007, 03:36 PM
Both got the team they didn't want to face. ;)=no championship for Sweden this year :sarcasm:

Paxton Fettel
05-07-2007, 03:36 PM
I tend to agree with the stupid Tavtvtvttv...ladze that they have to keep ZZM by all possible means :handclap:

The Russian parliament will pass a law that will force them to stay together! :teach:

Kaktus
05-07-2007, 03:37 PM
I rather play Slovaks... I hate playing Czechs...

Chimp
05-07-2007, 03:38 PM
=no championship for Sweden this year :sarcasm:
I don't think we exactly have a gold medal team this year, we have only one NHL player (Steen), but I still wouldn't count us out. We always have a strong team.

As for the Russian team, it is very strong offensively, but seems to have some weaknesses defensively.

cska78
05-07-2007, 03:39 PM
o'k, Chehmanek must show his true self against us!

Dawit49
05-07-2007, 03:39 PM
$$$

Den
05-07-2007, 03:40 PM
I don't think we exactly have a gold medal team this year, we have only one NHL player, but I still wouldn't count us out. We always have a strong team.

Kudos to Sweden for keeping up with Russia and defeating the NHL-laiden Finnland :handclap:

Kaizer
05-07-2007, 03:40 PM
I don't think we exactly have a gold medal team this year, we have only one NHL player (Steen), but I still wouldn't count us out. We always have a strong team.

Actually, I think Slovakia is good team for Sweden if they can shutdown one line and I think they can.

cska78
05-07-2007, 03:40 PM
I rather play Slovaks... I hate playing Czechs...

playing chehs is like running in the sand...

Good Victory, congrats brothers!

Chehs here we come

Den
05-07-2007, 03:40 PM
I hate Czechs :shakehead :shakehead

hdw
05-07-2007, 03:41 PM
Congrats Russia.

That win was deserved.

But I have to say that it was a much better game then I could ever wish for.

Den
05-07-2007, 03:42 PM
Anybody else thinks Eremenko is a lock # 1 for the medal round?

cska78
05-07-2007, 03:42 PM
well, there are no bad teams left, so it really doesn't matter whom you play, everyone's tough, even the Swiss...

cska78
05-07-2007, 03:42 PM
real hockey starts now!

Den
05-07-2007, 03:43 PM
even the Swiss...

I have to be realistic :)

Chimp
05-07-2007, 03:43 PM
Congrats Russia.

That win was deserved.

But I have to say that it was a much better game then I could ever wish for.
Agreed, I thought this game would be pretty boring, but it was entertaining to say the least. I guess it helped Russia had a fanatical crowd that didn't allow them to lay off and the Swedes felt they had to keep up.

Paxton Fettel
05-07-2007, 03:43 PM
But I have to say that it was a much better game then I could ever wish for.

Great game, indeed. Once again, I'm very impressed with Sweden's puck movement, and defense.

Den
05-07-2007, 03:44 PM
I am surprised they didn't change the flag to the red banner either :shakehead

Paxton Fettel
05-07-2007, 03:44 PM
I don't know the lyrics to the Russian anthem, so I'm singing the Soviet anthem ... the part about Stalin is the best!

Riddarn
05-07-2007, 03:44 PM
Good game. The Russians deserved to win, but I think both teams played pretty well.

I like what Månsson adds in form of physical play and power, I hope he gets another chance. Kahnberg on the other hand can sit the rest of the tournament. Maybe Bremberg should sit too.. :(

Den
05-07-2007, 03:44 PM
Stupid Tv...dze is jinxing us :shakehead

Paxton Fettel
05-07-2007, 03:45 PM
After today's game, I think it's fair to say that Proshkin is the Russian Brashear! :D

Paxton Fettel
05-07-2007, 03:45 PM
Stupid Tv...dze is jinxing us :shakehead

Totally :naughty:

hdw
05-07-2007, 03:45 PM
Anybody else thinks Eremenko is a lock # 1 for the medal round?

Nope.
He and the D's are the worrying points for the Russian team.

Now we are hitting the single game playoffs, now things are getting tough.

And Russia is this year's 'heaven or hell' team. Can very well go all the way, in style, or crash badly in the 1/4.

hdw
05-07-2007, 03:48 PM
I don't know the lyrics to the Russian anthem, so I'm singing the Soviet anthem ... the part about Stalin is the best!

Tsk tsk, if you're born in the 60's it's the 'hockey song', the one that was always played at the end of international tournaments.

Den
05-07-2007, 03:48 PM
Nope.


Well, the other option is less encouraging

Den
05-07-2007, 03:49 PM
I don't know the lyrics to the Russian anthem, so I'm singing the Soviet anthem ... the part about Stalin is the best!

You must be real old, man. That was changed liked 55 years ago

Crazyhorse
05-07-2007, 03:50 PM
Russia deserved to win this game. Sweden had to many giveaways in the third period, and that will never help you against anyone, especially the russians.

I am still happy about the overall swedish performance though. A bunch of SELers kept pace with a very skillfull russian team.

I still think it will be difficult to knock out Slovakia, but i wouldn't count the chickens yet.

Vladiator
05-07-2007, 03:53 PM
Eremenko is the best we have now. He didn't make any big mistakes today; no soft goals. Unless Nabokov can come (and assuming he ain't too tired or jet-legged), Eremenko should be our No 1 goalie..

Pushkin*
05-07-2007, 03:53 PM
Russia 4 Czech 2
Slovakia 3 Sweden 2
Canada 5 Swiss 0
Finland 3 Usa 1

anyone agrees?

Riddarn
05-07-2007, 03:55 PM
I still think it will be difficult to knock out Slovakia, but i wouldn't count the chickens yet.

I don't know about that. They don't look that strong. But you can never know, as always with Czech/Slovak teams. They are tricky.

Vladiator
05-07-2007, 03:56 PM
I liked the pressure from Russian players in the last 5 mins before the penalty kill. Sweden could not control the puck or get set up in the zone... Would be nice if Russia could pressure like this for 60 mins.

Muscle Bob
05-07-2007, 03:56 PM
Alexandr Sergeevich, you should better write a new poem ! :dunce:

Paxton Fettel
05-07-2007, 03:59 PM
omg the Russian commentator doesn't know what a GWG is. lol

he said Malkin scored the GWG

Paxton Fettel
05-07-2007, 04:00 PM
You must be real old, man. That was changed liked 55 years ago

26
:help:

Paxton Fettel
05-07-2007, 04:01 PM
Russia 4 Czech 2


Jinxed

Muscle Bob
05-07-2007, 04:03 PM
omg the Russian commentator doesn't know what a GWG is. lol

he said Malkin scored the GWG
What's wrong ? Malkin really scored game winning goal.

Siberian
05-07-2007, 04:05 PM
What's wrong ? Malkin really scored game winning goal.


Well, this Paxton guy is strange.

hdw
05-07-2007, 04:07 PM
I don't know the lyrics to the Russian anthem, so I'm singing the Soviet anthem ... the part about Stalin is the best!

You must be real old, man. That was changed liked 55 years ago

Please have patience.

The sad fact is that many swedes is can't remember any russian/soviet leaders between Uncle Joe and Gorby/Jeltsin and now the great judoka.

Sad, but a fact :/

Paxton Fettel
05-07-2007, 04:20 PM
What's wrong ? Malkin really scored game winning goal.

I slept only 5 hours last night. That explains why I can't remember who scored the 3rd and 4th goals. :help:

Kaktus
05-07-2007, 04:24 PM
I would love to play USA instead of Czechs...

USA, their D and goalie. Big W for Russia

Madness
05-07-2007, 04:30 PM
I kind of predicted a good game and it was a good game indeed, especially by the Russians.

Malkin was the best player on the ice.

Hörnqvist is amazing.

dmonk
05-07-2007, 04:36 PM
I would love to play USA instead of Czechs...

USA, their D and goalie. Big W for Russia

Nah, don't want to see them to play each other. I wouldn't know who to root for. Team Russia who's blood line i share or for good ole John Grahame who I've seen so much this year at RBC center.

Den
05-07-2007, 05:09 PM
Please have patience.

The sad fact is that many swedes is can't remember any russian/soviet leaders between Uncle Joe and Gorby/Jeltsin and now the great judoka.

Sad, but a fact :/

Well, Paxton is not a Swede obviously

hdw
05-07-2007, 05:35 PM
Well, Paxton is not a Swede obviously

Ok, non-russian then :)

Once there was uncle Joe, now there's Putin, most people outside the former Soviet hasn't understood what happened, nor what is happening today.

Sad, yes. Natural, yes.

Den
05-07-2007, 06:04 PM
Ok, non-russian then :)

I think he is Russian actually. Hey, Paxton? He seems to understand what the Russian commentators were speaking about.


Once there was uncle Joe, now there's Putin, most people outside the former Soviet hasn't understood what happened, nor what is happening today.
Sad, yes. Natural, yes.

Don't know. Talked to two of my Swedish friends today, they seem to follow the events better than me.

Cerebral
05-07-2007, 06:42 PM
How did Grebeshkov look today?

Den
05-07-2007, 07:36 PM
Brylin and Tyutin are coming :yo: :yo:

Simagin
05-07-2007, 07:44 PM
Brylin and Tyutin are coming :yo: :yo:

It's not sure yet.

Berkut
05-07-2007, 09:12 PM
Brylin and Tyutin are coming :yo: :yo:
Are you sure? Where did you get that from? That would help alot.

Den
05-07-2007, 09:27 PM
Are you sure? Where did you get that from? That would help alot.

Bykov on gazeta.ru and sport-express.ru

Slick Nick
05-08-2007, 02:06 AM
I'm a bit stressed about next game... we kinda tend to screw up on these..

Kaktus
05-08-2007, 09:47 AM
Brylin & Tyutin would help our D... Exactly what Russia needs.

They said something about Nabokov as well....

Brylin and Tyutin is about 80%.

cska78
05-08-2007, 09:58 AM
How's Tyutin gonna help our D? Another offensive D-man...

Brylin I like, he plays hard, good for PK

Kaktus
05-08-2007, 10:08 AM
How's Tyutin gonna help our D? Another offensive D-man...

Brylin I like, he plays hard, good for PK

Tyutin is both. He is pretty good on D.. Better then what we have right now.

Brylin is super on D.

CSKA
05-08-2007, 11:03 AM
Brylin is super on D.


yeah i think Brylin is along with Malkin the best two-way center we have right now :teach:

Berkut
05-08-2007, 03:27 PM
How's Tyutin gonna help our D? Another offensive D-man...

Brylin I like, he plays hard, good for PK
Tyutin never was an offensive D...he had what 20 something points this season? He's very good on D.

koyo
05-08-2007, 03:39 PM
Tyutin is not coming. He is not let go by his team.

Kaktus
05-08-2007, 05:36 PM
Tyutin is not coming. He is not let go by his team.
Link?

Tyutin might be too injured to play... and link was provided for that.. What is this... not let go by his team crap..

YesYesYall
05-08-2007, 06:10 PM
I managed to watch this game. It was insane how Russia controlled the play from the start and didn't relent.

koyo
05-08-2007, 06:56 PM
I found it on a Czech server (www.hokej.cz). It said that the Rangers didn't let him play after the medical check up.

Link?

Tyutin might be too injured to play... and link was provided for that.. What is this... not let go by his team crap..

cska78
05-08-2007, 11:06 PM
Yes, it looks like he got some knee injury...

Chimp
05-09-2007, 10:21 AM
Yup, Tyutin has a sore knee. Too bad he couldn't play, he would be exactly what Russia need, a strong defenseman. He's been great for Rangers this season.