WC: May 6 GDT - Czech Republic vs. Canada

http://www.iihf.com/Hydra/Tournaments_07/output/WS/hydra.iihf.com/113/

On behalf of Hockey-Germany:

GO CANADA GO!

I want to see Germany in the Quaterfinals.. i not sure who will win it though...maybe 4-3 canada;)

5-1 Canada.

Let's get this over with.

I wonder if it will be a second outstanding upset for Czech Republic after the U18 relegation 1 month ago.

It would be a awful season for them if it's happen like this way.

I hope we win this game, because we need to win

i want to see our defnse shore up it's game today.

that's what i'll be looking for.

the potential to win this tournament should lie in our defense core,but they have to come together.

Today's a good day to start getting it together for the medal round.

I predict a 10-9 final for the Canadians

Go Canada!
Win in regulation!

If the czechs lose, and Germany wins against belarus, germany is in the quarterfinals, right?
Can't find the tiebreaker on the iihf side.

It's kind of weird that Canada has been undefeated, but I won't complain.

Anyone know where I can find pictures from the tournament?

GO CANADA GO!!!!!!!! :clap:

It's kind of weird that Canada has been undefeated, but I won't complain.

Anyone know where I can find pictures from the tournament?
Google "IIHF Russia World 2007" - select images

Underway!

Where do the game coming on german tv?
On dsf the show stupid car crap. :madfire:

Don't tell me I can nowhere see canada - czechs

Darn, Canada penalty.

Canada kills the penalty

Dammit, crossbar!

Ugh, another Canadian penalty.

What's new? Team Canada's been shorthanded the entire tournament.

What's new? Team Canada's been shorthanded the entire tournament.

No kidding and yet another Canadian penalty.

1-0 Czechs. I'm not worried, Canada always comes back later on.

Why can't Canada ever score the first goal :(

The Czechs should be penalized for having too many men on the ice, because it's obvious that the guy in stripes is against Canada. They have been all tournament long.

Is this game available online? Sopcast? anything else?

Is this game available online? Sopcast? anything else?

yes. check NHL3 channel

This is brutal. If this game were being called the same for both teams, we'd have had at least five powerplays by now.

yes. check NHL3 channel

Does it have associated channel No? I don't have NHL3 in the default list after i installed sopcast on my PC

EDIT. never mind i am a moron! i found it. :)

2nd period underway

Someone needs to ttake the whistle away, that's the second of third time I've heard it. Nice break, though.

ROFL

The czechs left the puck cause a whistle sounded, canada shoots it into the net.

YAY :clap:

what! how can that be a goal? That person in the stand should get thrown out of the building.

ROFL

The czechs left the puck cause a whistle sounded, canada shoots it into the net.

That was absolute ********, if I was a czech player I would be pissed, even at home I thought the ref blew his wistle, it sure sounded that way.

who would have thought it would be a stupid idea for people to whistle from the stands at the play?

haha, Such a load! That was a distinct whistle, poor Czechs... lousy of fans to do that.

and finally an interference call.

Think maybe the fans give up on the whistling after costing the Czech team the lead?

n/m

Good Lord these refs can only see one colour. :rant:

That's a horrible call.

Lol refs.

At least try to not make it so obvious.

What a pile of crap.

Sweet call on Roloson. :sarcasm:

Officating like we are seeing this morning is one of the major reasons why this tournament has always been a second rate tournament.

Guess it is the only way the European teams have a shot...

n/m

Officating like we are seeing this morning is one of the major reasons why this tournament has always been a second rate tournament.

Guess it is the only way the European teams have a shot...
Good thing that the officiating in the Stanley Cup play-offs has been top notch and not subject to criticism this season... oh wait:shakehead

Another bad call, what else? :rant:

Good thing that the officiating in the Stanley Cup play-offs has been top notch and not subject to criticism this season... oh wait:shakehead

Not even remotely close to the garbage we see every year in international tournaments.

I dont think much of NHL officials, but all you have to do to realize that they are indeed the best in the world is to watch a tournament like this.

Thanks refs :rant: :rant: :rant:

Another bad call, what else? :rant:
Elbow extended, put behind a player's head and driven into the boards - a penalty in any league.

oh yeah pleky scores!!!

Can't help but laugh, and at Williams, too.

LOL. PLEKS! :D

This is just disgusting officiating. Every Czech goal has been a gift on ridiculous calls much like this last so called elbow.

the Czech just scored. -__-

Elbow extended, put behind a player's head and driven into the boards - a penalty in any league.

So called elbow.

Pleks is wearing his canadiens turtle-neck under his equipment.

What's up with Williams?
He gets a lot of penalty minutes in every game.
That's not the way he playes for Canes...
Has he decided to become a tough guy in the team roster?

Oh God No

This is just disgusting officiating. Every Czech goal has been a gift on ridiculous calls much like this last so called elbow.

Welcome to IIHF hockey, same **** every game. And we wonder why players don't bother to go.

NO GOAL :clap:

So called elbow.
Under IIHF rules there is a choice of penalties for what Willliams did:

520 - BOARDING
a) A player who bodychecks, elbows, charges or trips an opponent in such a manner that it causes the opponent to be thrown violently into the boards, shall be assessed at the discretion of the referee, a:
- Minor penalty (2’)
or
- Major penalty + Automatic Game Misconduct penalty (5’+GM)
or
- Match penalty (MP)
OR
526 - ELBOWING
a) A player who uses his elbow to foul an opponent shall be assessed a:
- Minor penalty (2’)or
- Major penalty + Automatic Game Misconduct penalty (5’+GM)
or
- Match penalty (MP)
OR
523 - CHECKING FROM BEHIND
a) A player who runs, jumps, charges or hits in any manner an opponent from behind
shall be assessed, at the discretion of the Referee, a
- Minor penalty + Automatic Misconduct penalty (2’+10’)
OR
540 – Checking to the Head and Neck Area.
a) A player who directs a check or blow, with any part of his body, to the head and neck area of an opposing player or ”drives” or ”forces” the head of an opposing player into the protective glass on boards, shall be assessed at the discretion of the Referee a:
- Minor penalty + Automatic Misconduct penalty (2’+10’)
or
- Major penalty + Automatic Game Misconduct penalty (5’+GM)
or
- Match Penalty (MP)
b) A player who injures an opponent as result of checking to the Head and Neck Area
shall be assessed, a
- Match Penalty (MP)

Unlike the NHL rule it does NOT require the elbow actually be extended (as it was here). Under IIHF rules any blow with an elbow can be penalized as can any hit to the head - so no Scott Stevens type hits.

Them's the rules.

What's up with Williams?
He gets a lot of penalty minutes in every game.
That's not the way he playes for Canes...
Has he decided to become a tough guy in the team roster?
Different rules, hits that are okay in the NHL can be penalized under IIHF rules. However the elbow would have been a penalty under NHL rules as well.

See my post above for the text of the rules.

Elbow extended, put behind a player's head and driven into the boards - a penalty in any league.

It was a forearm Wet. I've watched it multiple times and just double checked once again. All forearm.

It was a forearm Wet. I've watched it multiple times and just double checked once again. All forearm.
So have I and it was an elbow.

It could have also been called a hit to the head neck area or checking from behind but those penalties would have also entailed a 10 minute misconduct as well. Williams got away lightly.

Different rules, hits that are okay in the NHL can be penalized under IIHF rules. However the elbow would have been a penalty under NHL rules as well.

See my post above for the text of the rules.

I understand the rules but this is 5th game they play and Williams keeps getting stupid penalties. Correct me if i am wrong that he is the most penalized player in Canadian roster.
I don't see Staal brothers getting a lot of penalty minutes, somehow they figured out how to play IIHF hockey.

Olesz scores, but NO GOAL??? ***

Olesz scores, but NO GOAL??? ***

Inconclusive. No camera angles show the puck in the net. I thought it went in too but if the officials call no call, they have to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt WITH video evidence that it was a goal.

Olesz scores, but NO GOAL??? ***it wasnt a conclusive goal

chehi do toho!

I understand the rules but this is 5th game they play and Williams keeps getting stupid penalties. Correct me if i am wrong that he is the most penalized player in Canadian roster.
I don't see Staal brothers getting a lot of penalty minutes, somehow they figured out how to play IIHF hockey.
He needs to refer to the US Marines' credo - AIAO - Adapt, Improvise and Overcome.

Anybody tell me how Olesz has played so far?

So have I and it was an elbow.

It could have also been called a hit to the head neck area or checking from behind but those penalties would have also entailed a 10 minute misconduct as well. Williams got away lightly.

You are incorrect Wet. It was not an elbow. Watch it again, it is obvious, and I fail to see how an intelligent poster such as yourself could miss it. Are you just basing your opinion on seeing it once, or have you actually gone back and double checked it as you claim?

However it could have been called a hit to the head yes. But it wasn't, nor should it have been.

Sure sure, call a penalty to Canada at the start of the 3rd!

Maybe they should just get too-toos and see who can skate the best.. this is just brutal

You are incorrect Wet. It was not an elbow. Watch it again, it is obvious, and I fail to see how an intelligent poster such as yourself could miss it. Are you just basing your opinion on seeing it once, or have you actually gone back and double checked it as you claim?

However it could have been called a hit to the head yes. But it wasn't, nor should it have been.
Yes I watched it yet again, it was an elbow. YMMV.

I agree with the call by the official. It was brain cramp (yet again) by Williams.

Didn't take long for yet another crap call

actually it reminds me of womens hockey.. is this what hockey is like in europe?

SCOOOOOOOOOORES :clap: 2-2!

yeeeaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

SCORES STALLY 2-2:yo:

actually it reminds me of womens hockey.. is this what hockey is like in europe?

Yes......doesn't it suck when you have to win with skill and not goonery.:shakehead

Pfft, no goal, Staal elbowed the goalie in the head. Sorry Wet, couldn't resist. :D

actually it reminds me of womens hockey.. is this what hockey is like in europe?

Unfortunately yes. European hockey is ***** hockey.

One more to go, Canada!

Eric Staal!!!! Great job...

Yes......doesn't it suck when you have to win with skill and not goonery.:shakehead

I believe the word you are looking for is physicality. This isn't soccer.

Yes......doesn't it suck when you have to win with skill and not goonery.:shakehead

hockey is a physical sport.. There was nothing wrong with that hit by Doan.

I was almost expecting Canada to get a penalty for shooting the puck at the goalie's head

This tournament reminds me of how much a whiner Cechmanek is. Yes the puck hit him in the mask but like Dave Reid said, the puck cleared the zone.

As I write this, he gets nailed in the head again. This time there's a whistle.

You just can't explain some Europeans that hitting is part of a hockey game. :sarcasm:

It was a forearm Wet. I've watched it multiple times and just double checked once again. All forearm.
Theoretically, Kovalev's hit on Tucker was a forearm, still called as an elbow. ;)

Another Canadian Penalty

8th Czech PP now.

Somewhere, Pierre McGuire is screaming "TWO MINUTES FOR BEING STRONG" at a television set...

Wow, Dave Reid and Randorf are absolutely TERRIBLE. I can't stand commentators who show their bias so strongly, even if it is an International game. Yes, we know you're cheering for Canada, but is it really necessary to criticize every call that goes the Czech's way?

As I'm typing this Reid has just confused Cechmanek with Nittymaki. What a joke.

I ****in Hate Pleky Now

damnit :rant:

Go ref go!

DAMN CZECHS :rant:

This tournament reminds me of how much a whiner Cechmanek is. Yes the puck hit him in the mask but like Dave Reid said, the puck cleared the zone.

As I write this, he gets nailed in the head again. This time there's a whistle.

What does the puck clearing the zone have to do with it? He can't take the mask off to readjust a strap while play is continuing.

What does the puck clearing the zone have to do with it? He can't take the mask off to readjust a strap while play is continuing.

Did that shot send a strap flying?

This tournament reminds me of how much a whiner Cechmanek is. Yes the puck hit him in the mask but like Dave Reid said, the puck cleared the zone.

As I write this, he gets nailed in the head again. This time there's a whistle.
No worse than the guy at the other end of the ice. He drives me nuts.

stupid penalties.... :shakehead
Canada is handing victory to Chechz

man this ref is terrible...at least he is consistantly terrible

Wow, Dave Reid and Randorf are absolutely TERRIBLE. I can't stand commentators who show their bias so strongly, even if it is an International game. Yes, we know you're cheering for Canada, but is it really necessary to criticize every call that goes the Czech's way?

As I'm typing this Reid has just confused Cechmanek with Nittymaki. What a joke.

Ignored.

stupid penalties.... :shakehead
Canada is handing victory to Chechz

You spelled "ref" wrong.

No worse than the guy at the other end of the ice. He drives me nuts.

Agreed 100%.

What does the puck clearing the zone have to do with it? He can't take the mask off to readjust a strap while play is continuing.
234 - GOALKEEPERS HELMET AND FACE MASK
a) All goalkeepers must wear a face mask with a hockey helmet, or a goalkeepers full
face head protector, which meet approved international standards.
a) Goalkeepers face masks must be constructed in such a way that a puck may not get through it.

b ) Should the helmet and /or face mask come off while play is in progress ,the Referee shall stop play.

c ) Should a hard shot hit the goalkeeper’s face mask while play is in progress ,the Referee shall stop play.

The question is whether or not the shot hitting the mask was "hard". If so Canada caught a break.

Roloson does suck, that's for sure.

Did that shot send a strap flying?

Cechmanek clearly looked at the ref after the shot hit him in the mask as if he was looking for a whistle. According to IIHF rules the ref needs to stop the play, I'm pretty sure there isn't a stipulation that a "strap needs to be sent flying."

The question is whether or not the shot hitting the mask was "hard". If so Canada caught a break.

I do agree that play should have been stopped. All I'm saying is that it had nothing to do with the goal. Had Staal scored immidiately after Cechmanek gets hit in the head, then yes, I'd say we caught a break.

The call wasn't made, the goalie needs to re-focus.

Theoretically, Kovalev's hit on Tucker was a forearm, still called as an elbow. ;)
In the NHL if you extend the elbow and hit with a forearm, it is usually called an elbow.

Cechmanek clearly looked at the ref after the shot hit him in the mask as if he was looking for a whistle. According to IIHF rules the ref needs to stop the play, I'm pretty sure there isn't a stipulation that a "strap needs to be sent flying."

Its nice to see some of this idiot ref's blown calls going our way.

As far as the third Czech goal goes, Albert needs to stop coughing up bad rebounds.

It's rather interesting to see how similar Chechmanek and Albert are in their whining and their terrible rebound control.

SCOOOOOOOORES :clap:

:handclap: :handclap: :handclap: :handclap:

3-3

Doan from Lombardi

Tie game. Canadian penalty coming up I'm sure.

Yes 3-3

Cechmanek clearly looked at the ref after the shot hit him in the mask as if he was looking for a whistle. According to IIHF rules the ref needs to stop the play, I'm pretty sure there isn't a stipulation that a "strap needs to be sent flying."

As I said, I'm aware of the rule and agree with you to extent.

Tie game.. wonder how long before another PP to the Czechs

Tie game again... Just let the Czech's get their much needed point.

Canada continues to persevere despite much adversity. Gotta love it!

Tie game again... Just let the Czech's get their much needed point.

Why?? Just kill them and let them go home :teach:

Hockey Germany would really much appreciate a Canadian win. :D

Canada continues to persevere despite much adversity. Gotta love it!
Or perhaps more to the point:

Canada continues to persevere despite much stupidity by certain players. Gotta wonder!

You abandon the cause of the NHLPA in the favour of the officials union, Wetcoaster?

Or perhaps more to the point:

Canada continues to persevere despite much stupidity by certain players. Gotta wonder!

Disagreed.

Why?? Just kill them and let them go home :teach:
Habs fan that I am wants Pleks to go far. haha :)


Did Randorf or the other guy just say the Czechs need more than one point? All afternoon they kept saying one... :rant:

How long to go?

Canada continues to persevere despite much adversity. Gotta love it!

Adversity? Canada got a free goal.:teach:

Jackets fan here. I was jus wondering how Nash, Chimera and Klesla are looking. I saw that Vyborny has a couple of assists, so he must be playin well. I know Nash didn't play the thrid period in the last game. Does he look hurt or sick or anything. Much appreciated!

Adversity? Canada got a free goal.:teach:

What?? only free goals have come to the Czechs on bad calls

What?? only free goals have come to the Czechs on bad calls

Agreed!

Adversity? Canada got a free goal.:teach:

Ignored.

Just make the 4-3 canada!
How many minutes are left?

where's the roughing call there for that Czech goonery?

OT

OT
I hate canada right now :rant:

where's the roughing call there for that Czech goonery?

Wow, Dave Reid is just incensed that Barinka didn't get a penalty. He's wearing his homer glasses proudly.

:shakehead :shakehead :shakehead :cry:

CANADA WINS CANADA WINS :clap: :clap:

CANADA WINS CANADA WINS :clap: :clap:

Doesn't interest anyone!

Czechs should send that ref a box of champagne for extending their tournament.

Nice win for Canada. No offense to the Czechs, but the Canadian's were simply the better team. I'd really like to see Nash carry his play from this tournament next year and regain his form as a dominant scorer.

Doesn't interest anyone!

Maybe not you since you're German and your team was knocked out because of OT, but it interests me and the rest of the Canadians!

CANADA WINS CANADA WINS :clap: :clap:

Great...

Annoying whining by TSN about officiating. I thought te ref did a great job but because some fans are clueless they will believe whatever TSN tells them as a guy on the previous page.

Czechs should send that ref a box of champagne for extending their tournament.

Ignored;)

Great...

Hey don't take it out on me that your team was kocked out. I'm sorry they were by the way, but I'm happy that Canada got the extra point, even in OT.

Yes......doesn't it suck when you have to win with skill and not goonery.:shakehead

yes......now I agree with you :yo:

The same crap like in the wc Juniors.
Somebody don't won't to a small hockey country to have some success.
The czechs just had to be in the quarterfinals, so there will be a way they reach the quarterfinals...

Annoying whining by TSN about officiating. I thought te ref did a great job but because some fans are clueless they will believe whatever TSN tells them as a guy on the previous page.

:biglaugh:

They weren't tough enough on him.

:biglaugh:

They weren't tough enough on him.

Yep, usually they whine more.

Good on them for beating the Czechs and the refs. I guess it's just too barbaric to play hockey the real way.

Good on them for beating the Czechs and the refs. I guess it's just too barbaric to play hockey the real way.
Different rules - AIAO.

First and second period we were better, but in third period we were very tired. And Canada were today happier team, first goal gratis, then Olezs' "no" goal (similar situation like in Salt Lake 2002, that time nobody didn't know too, where was the puck). Congrats Canada to win, great third period and OT...

Czech fans: always gracious in defeat!

This sucks...

Adversity? Canada got a free goal.:teach:
Go ahead, might as well blame Canada for the fake whistle.

By the way, FAC33 :yo: and FAC63 :thumbu:.

Yes......doesn't it suck when you have to win with skill and not goonery.:shakehead

Yes, it does, because it takes a bit longer. But what can you do. :biglaugh:

Good on them for beating the Czechs and the refs. I guess it's just too barbaric to play hockey the real way.

Sure :shakehead If you don't like the rules, go home and don't bother.

It's kinda amusing. 1-1 goal was total disgrace, it shouldn't be valid. For all those who whine about the refs, I'd like to see what you would do in similar situation.

wow
talk about whining....

This game was rigged from the beginning.

:cry:

;)

23 seconds. Canada could have given some effort.

Hey don't take it out on me that your team was kocked out. I'm sorry they were by the way, but I'm happy that Canada got the extra point, even in OT.

Didn't had anything to do with you. Just general frustration ;). First the Canadians rob our points in the Preliminary Round, then they score 24 secs to late. :pullhair:

Quick question... what happened with Chechmanek in overtime? I heard that he didn't come out for OT because he was "tired." Is that true?