WC: May 4 GDT - Russia vs. Italy

http://www.iihf.com/Hydra/Tournaments_07/output/WS/hydra.iihf.com/113/

Do you know any russian web site with info (in english) about Championship ?? :help:

I fear it's Russia 10 - Italy 1.
If team Russia has the right attitube this can be a real blowout. I like team Italy and I liked the way they played against Latvia, but to be honest there's no way Italy can survive from this avalanche.

some points for Morozov please

some points for Morozov please

If their line keeps their level up, I think Morozov will get 2-4 points.

I think we should just win this game with as minimum of an effort as possible...

Now it's all about smarts, as there are about 7 teams left who can beat each other on any given day.

Hopefully this and next games Malkin and Ovechkin will find some chemistry.. I'd like to see one d-man replacement.

Go Russia Go!

Hopefully this and next games Malkin and Ovechkin will find some chemistry.. I'd like to see one d-man replacement.

Go Russia Go!

Yes, I wish Detroit is out and we get D. Markov

Yes, I wish Detroit is out and we get D. Markov Dude whats with you and D.Markov? He is a good player and everything but Volchenkov is much better d-man at this point, not to mention Zubov who once again said no to team Russia.

Dude whats with you and D.Markov? He is a good player and everything but Volchenkov is much better d-man at this point, not to mention Zubov who once again said no to team Russia.
Zuvob's hurt (probably for real this time), Ottawa is not going anywhere, they gonna take care of the Devils and advance, Detroit is tied 2:2 with Sharks, so Markov is the only hope to fortify our D

I'm not so sure Volchenkov is better, as he ha has no offensive game and outlet pass, Markov has both.

Zuvob's hurt (probably for real this time), Ottawa is not going anywhere, they gonna take care of the Devils and advance, Detroit is tied 2:2 with Sharks, so Markov is the only hope to fortify our D

I'm not so sure Volchenkov is better, as he ha has no offensive game and outlet pass, Markov has both. Markov has problems on D, once in a while he has a brain cramp unlike Volchenkov. Russia, probably one of the best offensive teams in this tournament.

This should be a massacre if team Russia shows up at all.

12-2 Russia.

Zuvob's hurt (probably for real this time), Ottawa is not going anywhere, they gonna take care of the Devils and advance, Detroit is tied 2:2 with Sharks, so Markov is the only hope to fortify our D

I'm not so sure Volchenkov is better, as he ha has no offensive game and outlet pass, Markov has both.
I'd preffer to see Nabokov, Go Wings Go!!! :)

Can someone tell me why IIHF has so many teams at WC? I mean why would anyone care about a game like Russia-Denmark or something like that. Why not just have 10 teams max, split them in 2 groups, let them play1 round robin, have 3 teams advance from each group, 1st place teams have 1 By, then have smifinals and finals best of 3. I think it would be much better than watching games like Russia-Italy.

Can someone tell me why IIHF has so many teams at WC? I mean why would anyone care about a game like Russia-Denmark or something like that. Why not just have 10 teams max, split them in 2 groups, let them play1 round robin, have 3 teams advance from each group, 1st place teams have 1 By, then have smifinals and finals best of 3. I think it would be much better than watching games like Russia-Italy.

PR, trying to make hockey popular in as many countries as possible

Can someone tell me why IIHF has so many teams at WC? I mean why would anyone care about a game like Russia-Denmark or something like that. Why not just have 10 teams max, split them in 2 groups, let them play1 round robin, have 3 teams advance from each group, 1st place teams have 1 By, then have smifinals and finals best of 3. I think it would be much better than watching games like Russia-Italy.

How can you say this. You haven't even seen this thriller yet ;)

PR, trying to make hockey popular in as many countries as possible I do not think losing 9:1 will make it popular. Who wants to see that, you know?

Anyway, hopefully Italians ate a lot of pasta and can compete.

Go Russia Go!

I do not think losing 9:1 will make it popular. Who wants to see that, you know?
Anyway, hopefully Italians ate a lot of pasta and can compete.

Go Russia Go!

Thank you, that's exactly my point.

How can you say this. You haven't even seen this thriller yet ;)

:biglaugh:

yes and no. Are you saying for example that it's better that Russia doesn't make it to football world Cup at all, over making it to the World Cup, getting out of the group and then loosing to Brazil let's say 3:0? I take the latter any time...

yes and no. Are you saying for example that it's better that Russia doesn't make it to football world Cup at all, over making it to the World Cup, getting out of the group and then loosing to Brazil let's say 3:0? I take the latter any time...
that's not exactly the same thing. FIFA World Cup is held every 4 years. In order to get there you have to play Qualifying games, i am sure u r fully aware of that. And with all due respect to Brazil, I think the gap between Russia and Brazil in soccer is smaller that a gap between Russia and Denmark in hockey. Cameroun gave Argentina all they could handle in 1994, remember?:) France in 2002 got their butts kicked as well by bunch of "nobodies". To summarize it all: Russia in soccer has a chance of beating Brazil ( a very small one, but it's still a chance ) where in hockey, teams like Denmark, Ukraine, etc have no chance at all to even be somewhat competetive against teams like Russia, Canada, etc.
P.S. Did u think Ukraine will make top 8 teams at the last FIFA world cup?

RTR Sport isn't showing the game. I can't get any spocast channel to work either.

Anyone have a link? Please :help:

RTR Sport isn't showing the game. I can't get any spocast channel to work either.

Anyone have a link? Please :help:

try this:
http://livetv.ru/eventinfo/2421/

try this:
http://livetv.ru/eventinfo/2421/ OK I clicked it.. and nothing.

try this:
http://livetv.ru/eventinfo/2421/

that's what I was trying but there's only baseball and NFL europe :cry:

OK I clicked it.. and nothing.

Do u have sopcast or tvu installed on your machine?

that's what I was trying but there's only baseball and NFL europe :cry:

Oh, well, that's the only one i know off.

Do u have sopcast or tvu installed on your machine?

whats the right channel on tvu player?

that's what I was trying but there's only baseball and NFL europe :cry:
it will be delayed...idiocy

that's not exactly the same thing. FIFA World Cup is held every 4 years. In order to get there you have to play Qualifying games, i am sure u r fully aware of that. And with all due respect to Brazil, I think the gap between Russia and Brazil in soccer is smaller that a gap between Russia and Denmark in hockey. Cameroun gave Argentina all they could handle in 1994, remember?:) France in 2002 got their butts kicked as well by bunch of "nobodies". To summarize it all: Russia in soccer has a chance of beating Brazil ( a very small one, but it's still a chance ) where in hockey, teams like Denmark, Ukraine, etc have no chance at all to even be somewhat competetive against teams like Russia, Canada, etc.
P.S. Did u think Ukraine will make top 8 teams at the last FIFA world cup?


I c, u like to argue every single point made, but u didnt get or understand the scenario I am trying to describe. It is not about Russia having a chance or not, it is about an exact same thing happening. There are fans in this countries they want to see their team play the best and learn and get better. From the top 7 prespective u might as well just have 7 teams in the tournament.

whats the story on the game? Still 0:0, team Russia had 5:3PP

I've just spent 3,50 euros to watch the game on IHWC.net, but of course, it's not working ...

first time ever a video doesn't work on my pc

I'm gonna kill somebody

RTR-Sports will show this game with 1 hour delay because of Basketball playoffs.

Russians had lots of good situations but just couldn't finish a goal. Italians are working hard and have lots of good luck. Perhaps Russians should play more as a team and less as talented individuals.

It's telling that the (mostly) Russian audience was booing after the end of the period...

Interesting to see how long it takes till Russians make their first goal. :)

FRom what I hear... Italians had only one attack that was stopped by Nikulin. They almost had 3:1 break away but d-man made a good play to prevent it.

In goal for Russia is Eremenko.

Malkin had 3-4 good chances.
Bikov messed with lines putting Radulov Ovechkin and Sachstlivy together.
Kovalchuk playing pass again which gave a good pass to Malkin. Good sign.
Most 90% of 1st period was in Italy zone. Russians missed a lot of chances.

Italians are very lucky at this point.

I've just spent 3,50 euros to watch the game on IHWC.net, but of course, it's not working ...

first time ever a video doesn't work on my pc

I'm gonna kill somebody


Are you sure you didn't pay for different game? Maybe you will have a chance to see another game?

so far Italy has generated more chances than Russia in the second period:amazed:

Frolov all alone in front of the net... Goalie with a huge save...

Are you sure you didn't pay for different game? Maybe you will have a chance to see another game?

no, I chose the right game

but they just gave me a refund, so I don't care

but that's weird, because the preview video worked fine ... not the game

Italy with 2 shots on goal so far.

Russians can not finish.. Bouncing puck. Shots dirrected right into Italian goalie logo.

Russian PP coming up...

PP for Russians. ZMZ line is on the ice.

I love this game.




:D

I love this game.




:D

Me too, after those two blatant dives by Malkin and Kovalchuk, I am SO rooting for Italy.


EDIT: OOOHH...Italy so close on breakaway!

(fixed the other divers name, sorry Ovy)

Bad luck continues for team Russia. This time broken sticks.


EDIT: Italy almost scored but Russian goalie with a good save.

Me too, after those two blatant dives by Malkin and Ovechkin, I am SO rooting for Italy.


EDIT: OOOHH...Italy so close on breakaway!

Ovechkin dives?? lol :help:

Me too, after those two blatant dives by Malkin and Ovechkin, I am SO rooting for Italy.


EDIT: OOOHH...Italy so close on breakaway!


God i would love the Italians to win this. ****! Lucky goal. :(

Goal 1-0 Kovy

Ovechkin dives?? lol :help:

Sorry my bad, I meant Kovalchuk.

PP for Italy

5 on 3 Italy.

God i would love the Italians to win this. ****! Lucky goal. :( Lucky goal? Pizdec... check out shots on goal.. Then talk about luck. Seriously. Some people.. :huh:

5 on 3 for Italy:shakehead

keep the updates coming.


CMON GENO!!

Lucky goal? Pizdec... check out shots on goal.. Then talk about luck. Seriously. Some people.. :huh:

Yeah i know it was a good one, i was just in a foul mood when posting that. Didnt mean to be an ass.

Italian 5 on 3 looks more like 5 on 4
not even a shot on goal in 90 secs of 5 on 3

Italian 5 on 3 looks more like 5 on 4 Hopefully this is our only game where we can not score.

5:3 is over.. Playing 5 on 5 now.

that's not exactly the same thing. FIFA World Cup is held every 4 years. In order to get there you have to play Qualifying games, i am sure u r fully aware of that. And with all due respect to Brazil, I think the gap between Russia and Brazil in soccer is smaller that a gap between Russia and Denmark in hockey. Cameroun gave Argentina all they could handle in 1994, remember?:) France in 2002 got their butts kicked as well by bunch of "nobodies". To summarize it all: Russia in soccer has a chance of beating Brazil ( a very small one, but it's still a chance ) where in hockey, teams like Denmark, Ukraine, etc have no chance at all to even be somewhat competetive against teams like Russia, Canada, etc.
P.S. Did u think Ukraine will make top 8 teams at the last FIFA world cup?

Who advanced to semi-finals from Sweden - Belarus match-up in Salt Lake City olympics? Or who won the game Germany vs Czech Republic yesterday?

Yeah, i know, there are only few examples of this so it isnt really comparable. But there are always 2 strong teams and 2 weak teams in the starting groups, meaning the 2 weaker teams will battle it out in a game which will be interesting for the fans and will promote the hockey in their respective countries. Atleast a bit. And especially if they can give hard time for the 2 top teams.

end of 2nd period

I think Bikov is changing lines too damn much...

This is a good game.. Not as close as many may think..

Italy with 6 shots on goal 2 of them were chances in 2 periods.

PP for Russia... The game is getting pretty boring

Kovalchuk missed the net with a good chance. :(

5 on 3 for Russia for about 10 secs... 10 min misconduct for Italy for boarding

4 on 4

5 on 3 for Russia for about a minute... 10 min misconduct for Italy for boarding Elbowing?

Elbowing?

did not look like it... just a regular boarding call - face to the boards from behind

Quite a pathetic game from whta I hear :help:

Quite a pathetic game from whta I hear :help:
I can't believe I skipped work for this:cry:

Spending 50 minutes attacking and still one goal...

Frolov 2-0
Frolov and Kovy going 2 on 1. Frolov with the puck. Passes it to Kovalchuk, he one-times it back to Frolov, who puts it into empty net. Good play, I like.:handclap:

Frolov 2-0
Frolov and Kovy going 2 on 1. Frolov with the puck. Passes it to Kovalchuk, he one-times it back to Frolov, who puts it into empty net. Good play, I like.:handclap:
Can't break that line, they're playing good.
Something has to be done with AO, he is wasted so far.

Italy - time-out :biglaugh: :biglaugh:

Italian goalie is injuried. Unknown cause. He has been a star in this game. Decided to stay in goal.

Lets go Muzzati!

How can you go 0 for 8 on PP against Italy:shakehead

Muzzatti is down again with 19 secs to go... Play is stopped.

This is a comedy... The goalie on the ice, Gonchar does not shoot

Yeeeeey... 1 for 9:help: Morozov 3-0

We are better than Finns :banana: :banana: we are better than Finns :sarcasm:

The only good thing about the game is that Morozov and Zaripov got a point each :biglaugh:

Italian players save their honour.

Chapeau for Jason Muzzatti.

Jason Muzzatti, you're my idol. :handclap:

Great game by Muzzati. The Russians guys looked like they had alot of fun today and were all smiles. Nice to see. Also nice to see respect at the end by Gonchar by not shooting while Muzzati was down.

How about: Russia-Italy 3:0. We shall not specify the name of the particular sports event :yo:

While I generally disagree booing by the audience, I have to say that the russian audience was pretty justified this time.. How could the panel award Strazzabosco as the best Italian player on the ice is beyond me.

Ovechkin definetly needs another center.

While I generally disagree booing by the audience, I have to say that the russian audience was pretty justified this time.. How could the panel award Strazzabosco as the best Italian player on the ice is beyond me.

No clue. I was pissed, so were all the Russians in the stands it seems.

Ovechkin definetly needs another center.

i agree, his play in late has dissapointed me along with Malkin, and Backstrom.

Ovechkin definetly needs another center.

You definitely have one specific agenda on this board :naughty:

who does russia play next?

Italian goalie is the man.. I do not know who he is but he played very well. I think he pulled groin in the end was fighting it off.. Stayed on the ice..

Good to see that Gonchar did not shot the puck.


who does russia play next?
SUI

Yeah def seemed like a groin injury. Tough guy.

Despite not scoring much, Russia was just playing keep-away pond hockey in the third. Nothing against Italy but that was painful to watch.

Either way, if Russia gives this effort against any capable team they're gonna get killed.

Ovechkin is wasted in this tournament. He doesn't have good center and I also believe Bykov made mistake with Semin. It was plain stupid to discipline one of the best forward the way he did.
Having Semin and Ovy on the same line would make a huge difference.

Having Semin and Ovy on the same line would make a huge difference.

Having Malkin, Frolov and Kovalchuk on the same line doesn't make ANY difference so far ...

Schastlivy blows. If Bykov wanted him so much why not move him to wing? Apart from Malkin and Zinoviev there's no creativity at the center position at all......and Ovechkins being wasted.

Having Malkin, Frolov and Kovalchuk on the same line doesn't make ANY difference so far ...
Are you nutts? It's the best line by far. Not counting ZZM.

one has to realize that Bykov is incompetent

in fact, if you watch all those powerplays, especially towards the end of the game, you can clearly see that the coach didn't make any adjustments in the positionning of his forwards on the PP

all I saw, is 5 players on the perimeter passing the puck, along the boards, and that's all.

I mean, anyone who understands hockey can see that the Russian powerplay is struggling big time against a large box. so anyone would understand that you have to put someone in the middle, like a forward at the top of the crease maybe.

but no, Bykov sticks to his plan.

he's got Malkin and Kovalchuk and Frolov circling around fruitlessly, and apparently, he likes it.

that was PATHETIC. and this word isn't strong enough.

and Ovechkins being wasted.

total waste.

just put him with Malkin, and keep Frolov with Kovalchuk.

Kovy was definetly best player tonight. It was nice to see how he was fighting for his country. He forechecked, he passed, he wanted to win. Your topline was really disappointing. We all saw see how they were just figureskating there and they didn't have any will to play. To be honest I agree with them. This kind of games doesnt really get anyone going. Totally boring to watch little ones fight against windmills.

one has to realize that Bykov is incompetent

in fact, if you watch all those powerplays, especially towards the end of the game, you can clearly see that the coach didn't make any adjustments in the positionning of his forwards on the PP

all I saw, is 5 players on the perimeter passing the puck, along the boards, and that's all.

I mean, anyone who understands hockey can see that the Russian powerplay is struggling big time against a large box. so anyone would understand that you have to put someone in the middle, like a forward at the top of the crease maybe.

but no, Bykov sticks to his plan.

he's got Malkin and Kovalchuk and Frolov circling around fruitlessly, and apparently, he likes it.

that was PATHETIC. and this word isn't strong enough.

Reminds me of a Krikunov coached team.:biglaugh:

Schastlivy blows. If Bykov wanted him so much why not move him to wing? Apart from Malkin and Zinoviev there's no creativity at the center position at all......and Ovechkins being wasted.

No way. I mean, Malkin and AO blow way more than he does right now. He has been the clutch for the whole year, and played well outside of this game.

total waste.

just put him with Malkin, and keep Frolov with Kovalchuk.

What diff would that make? :shakehead Kovy is a better player as of now and should be used with a POTENTIALLY better cenre.

AO needs Kai :cry: :cry: Or another non-nepryaev....

I would reserve from giving it up to Bykov untill the end of the tourney. Yes, the PP sucked today. But it didn't in the previous games. Bykov is not stupid not to understand what a common poster understands here, so we'll see next time.

He actually got it: "We wanted to pass neatly and put it in the empty net. When there's a stronger opponent there will be no other solution then just to shoot"

Reminds me of a Krikunov coached team.:biglaugh:

exactly my thought towards the end of the game! all the Russian coaches are doing this, they can't evolve

the only 2 guys that I trust in Russian hockey are Fetisov and Larionov

Russia needs a Canadian coach or something, at least once

I trust in Russian hockey are Fetisov

And how did that end up?

..................

exactly my thought towards the end of the game! all the Russian coaches are doing this, they can't evolve

the only 2 guys that I trust in Russian hockey are Fetisov and Larionov

Russia needs a Canadian coach or something, at least once

I hope it won't happen in my lifettime, unless his name is Scotty Bowman

Wait till the tournament is over, then bash the coach!:rant:

As for Muzatti, if I'm not mistaken he was a #3 goaly for the Flames some 8 or so years ago, and he's Canadien Italien I think...Played for Italy last Olympics and looked pretty good as well.

exactly my thought towards the end of the game! all the Russian coaches are doing this, they can't evolve

the only 2 guys that I trust in Russian hockey are Fetisov and Larionov

Russia needs a Canadian coach or something, at least once

Bykov has done very well so far with both the national team and CSKA. Maybe we should wait a bit before making any judgements about his competance?

And we definitely don't need any foreigners to tell us how to play hockey. It is not football, where we kind of suck..:shakehead We have been winning before and we need to find our winning ways by ourselves.

I disagree about PP of Russian team. They had very strong PP until this game.
They played this game to get those 3 points not to score 6+ goals again. Main goal was to win and to avoid injuries.
I suspect we will see similar game against SUI. For as long as team can regroup when playing with stronger opponent i see no reasons to worry and complain about Bykov style.
The only mistake Bykov made so far the way i see it was kicking Semin out of the team. I saw Semin many times this year. In fact i saw every game Caps played against Canes here in Carolina. Alex Semin is a superior pack handler and it was extremely stupid not to let him play.

Hm. The PP was 45% before Italian game. It is not as bad, as it is described.