WC: May 2 GDT - Canada vs. Slovakia

http://live82.ihwc.net/english/scores/

Good Luck to Slovaks, gonna be a hard one, Russians are with you for this one:)

I predict 5:2 Canada though :(

4:2 slovakia...

btw: halak in the net

I'm glad to see Dion Phaneuf at the tournament. I think we're gonna see alot of shots and some big hits. I'm interested to see how Phaneuf can handle this big ice surface.

Jamal Mayers has done a good job. He made two big goals against Germany and has +2.

And then there are Gaborik, Demitra, Satan and all the other happy fellows.... interesting game indeed.

slovakia will win 5:2

The way Canada is playing right now... Slovaks can pull it off. 3:2 Slovaks

GO CANADA GO!!!!!!!!!!!!! :clap:

Let's go Canada! Not feeling this game though.

Underway

Game on.

Slovak powerplay.

1-0 already.

UGH :shakehead :rant:

ANOTHER penalty? And who is it against?

EDIT: Canadian Powerplay And We SCOOOOOOOOOORE :clap:

1-1!!

tied at 1!

Why is canada playing in black jerseys??

Where i can see the match?

do toho! do toho! Slovaks, Slovaks:)

That was an amazing move by Toews.

Toews has been amazing so far. An assist on Murphy's goal and he completely undressed a Slovak defenceman to go in on goal.

That was an amazing move by Toews.

Sure was!

is it good hockey so far? i'm at work :o(

Go Leafs Go! Get me some vCash! :)

is it good hockey so far? i'm at work :o(

Not bad. Canada has had a stronger start than in their previous two games. Pretty even so far.

shots 10:6 canada

go slovakia go! :yo:

Here on-line:

http://www.myp2p.eu/NHL.htm

Here on-line:

http://www.myp2p.eu/NHL.htm

Hmm, stream doesn't seem to work for some reason. Am I the only one?

Weird game now. Canada is controlling the game now territorially and the Slovaks are sitting back. It's like they're waiting for power plays and quick counter attacks.

Canada power play coming up.

Canadian powerplay coming up!

That powerplay is nullified... Cam going to the box.

Dammit, powerplay over.

Toews has looked really good so far in this game. He's NHL ready, no question.

He's faster then I thought.

That was an amazing move by Toews.

Highlight of the game so far.

Toews has looked really good so far in this game. He's NHL ready, no question.

He's faster then I thought.

+1. It seems as though he has gotten much better legs since the WJC.

End of 1st

+1. It seems as though he has gotten much better legs since the WJC.

He's been Canada's best player so far.

1-1 after one. A good period for Canada but they squandered some good chances by not getting shots off. The Staal brothers have to start doing something and the same for Cammallari. There isn't enough offensive talent on this team for those guys to stay quiet.

Hmm, stream doesn't seem to work for some reason. Am I the only one?

Me too

2nd underway

2-1!

MAYERS :clap:

Mayers. 2-1 Canada. Nice feed from behind the net by Chimera. One-timer from slot.

is this on radio anywhere?

it's time to wake up...hopefuly slovaks will play some offence

2-1 Canada.

Darn it, penalty.

Wow, HUGE dive there.

Canada's dominating five-on-five. If they can just stay out of the box...

OMG that stupid over the glass penalty, GREAT!

Crap. Canada two-men short for putting the puck over the glass.

Go Slovakia go!

KILLED :clap:

How the hell did Williams miss that! Wide open net from one foot away.

OMG... how did Williams miss that?

Rick Nash... pass the damn puck.

Nash misses great chance. Canada has got to start burying these.

Powerplay!

Hossa with a penalty. Canada going to the PP.

Wow, they made a correct call, I'm impressed.

So this looks like Mayers' coming out party, he's been great so far.

I hope Toews gets some PP time.

SCOOOOOOOOOOORES :clap:

3-1!!!!!! Brewer!

3-1

Toews is ****ing awesome.

Beautiful pass by toews.

3-1 CANNNNNNADA

3-1 Canada. What a sweet pass from Toews to Brewer.

What a pass by Toews to set up Brewer. :amazed:

Wow, what a pass from Toews.

It's nice to see him (Toews), playing his best hockey against Canada's best opponent. Playing great against NHLers.

wooow only 9 shots for slovakia...so far....:(

Wow... Rick Nash on another 2 on 1 and he doesn't pass. Again.

how's halak playing?

3-2.

Boooooooooooooooooo

how's halak playing?

Hasn't been good, hasn't been bad. Very "meh."

3-2.

yes baby!! :yo: :yo:

who scored?

yes baby!! :yo: :yo:

Not :shakehead

Bad giveaway by Brewer. Roloson is looking really shaky in net. (can't really be blamed on that last one though)

4-2!!

SCOOOOOOOOOORES :clap:

Nash 4-2

For those of us not in Canada or a country that is showing it on the TV

is there radio coverage for the game

So how's Phaneuf looking?

Nash 4-2

Hamhuis

4 goals on 19 shots...:(

not good

Wow... Rick Nash on another 2 on 1 and he doesn't pass. Again.

Pass wasn't available, he made the right choice.

4-3.

So how's Phaneuf looking?

Phaneuf looks pretty good, a little tired looking maybe after the long flight yesterday. The whole Canadian D looks great Phaneuf/Brewer/Hamhuis/Jackman/Commodore/Schultz/Murphy have all looked very solid and have scored 3 goals.
That's not including Brewer's bonehead attempt to beat 2 Slovak forecheckers when he was the last man back, which led to Hossa's goal

Pull Roloson.

UGH DAMN SLOVAKS SCORED :rant: :rant: :rant:

4-3.

you are the messenger i like :D

Pass wasn't available, he made the right choice.

It was available. Watch again.

Pull Roloson.

Blaming the goalie for a breakaway goal...

:shakehead

you are the messenger i like :D

:rolleyes:

:rolleyes:

you don't like me....do ya?:sarcasm:

Blaming the goalie for a breakaway goal...

:shakehead

There were three goals scored. :shakehead

It was available. Watch again.

I did, it wasn't, sorry. PVR ftw. Chara had his body completely in the way, and with Doan being RH, there was no way unless he tried a massive flip pass.

you don't like me....do ya?:sarcasm:

Frustrated, I want Canada to win lol.

There were three goals scored. :shakehead

You expect a shutout by canada in every game?

Hossa's goal was brewers fault mostly too.

I did, it wasn't, sorry. PVR ftw.

It was. Especially with NHL calibre players involved.. it's called creativity.

Frustrated, I want Canada to win lol.

i cheer for canada...well unless the play slovaks:)

It was. Especially with NHL calibre players involved.. it's called creativity.

Sorry bro, no way no how. Maybe you should be the one to watch it again? 3 foot arial sacuer pass? Yeah, that'll work...

Wow, that is some bad hockey hair on the Slovak that scored the third goal.

You expect a shutout by canada in every game?

Hossa's goal was brewers fault mostly too.

No, I just think Roloson has been playing poorly. He was a beached whale on Hossa's. Too slow across his crease on Jurcina's. Then the shot that should've been stopped on the breakaway but went off his arm and in.

Sorry bro, no way no how. Maybe you should be the one to watch it again? 3 foot arial sacuer pass? Yeah, that'll work...

On a 2-on-1, when the defensive player commits himself to the pass (ie, laying on the ice in an attempt to block the potential pass), it is common practice to slow down and get the puck to your partner.

If the pass is still unavailable, then you shoot.

I thought this was basic knowledge.

I'm glad to see Dion Phaneuf at the tournament. I think we're gonna see alot of shots and some big hits. I'm interested to see how Phaneuf can handle this big ice surface.

Jamal Mayers has done a good job. He made two big goals against Germany and has +2.



Pretty good game so far.

Phaneuf made one mistake on big surface. Uram scored from that mistake. Mayers scored goal again and Canada has been really strong on scoring changes.

Radek Uram seems like a decent player. He's got alot of skill and great hairstyle.

No, I just think Roloson has been playing poorly. He was a beached whale on Hossa's. Too slow across his crease on Jurcina's. Then the shot that should've been stopped on the breakaway but went off his arm and in.

You're more than welcome to have your own opinion, even if it's wrong.

On a 2-on-1, when the defensive player commits himself to the pass (ie, laying on the ice in an attempt to block the potential pass), it is common practice to slow down and get the puck to your partner.

If the pass is still unavailable, then you shoot.

I thought this was basic knowledge.

Haha. You don't know what your talking about. If he had slowed down, the backchecker would've caught up. Also, Chara has an insanely long stick, slowing down would've made him vulnerable to a sweeping poke.

hey guys, just got in.

How's Halak playing? (assuming he is)

On a 2-on-1, when the defensive player commits himself to the pass (ie, laying on the ice in an attempt to block the potential pass), it is common practice to slow down and get the puck to your partner.

If the pass is still unavailable, then you shoot.

I thought this was basic knowledge.

So it's common place to try to pass when the passing lane is blocked instead of taking a shot when you've only got the goalie in front of you?

/Noted.

You're more than welcome to have your own opinion, even if it's wrong.

As are you. Roloson's play can be faulted on all three.

i cheer for canada...well unless the play slovaks:)

Okay cool. Sorry I apologize for the rolling eyes smiley lol.

No, I just think Roloson has been playing poorly. He was a beached whale on Hossa's. Too slow across his crease on Jurcina's. Then the shot that should've been stopped on the breakaway but went off his arm and in.

Roloson can only be faulted on the first goal of the game. He just wasn't in position for that shot, even if there was a screen in front.

He read the Hossa play perfectly and did what any seasoned goaltender would do. However, his defense let him down. Brewer was the cause of that goal.

The breakaway goal? You are seriously blaming Roloson for that?

So it's common place to try to pass when the passing lane is blocked instead of taking a shot when you've only got the goalie in front of you?

/Noted.

I'm sure Andy Murray reamed out his #1 goal scorer for selfishly taking that wide open shot, lol.

You're more than welcome to have your own opinion, even if it's wrong.

Fantastic game great crowd it's looking good for the medal round. Way better than those awefuly boring 2-1 nhl playoffs dumping-trapping game. Usa-Czech Finland-Russia yesterday and now this game that's some real good hockey

Haha. You don't know what your talking about. If he had slowed down, the backchecker would've caught up. Also, Chara has an insanely long stick, slowing down would've made him vulnerable to a sweeping poke.

Alright, I suppose Hockey Canada is wrong, as they've stressed this point I'm trying to make in the "AAA" development camp last year. Not to mention the two "Junior A" coaches I've played for as well.

So it's common place to try to pass when the passing lane is blocked instead of taking a shot when you've only got the goalie in front of you?

/Noted.

It's called creativity. Especially with a player of Nash's calibre.

The breakaway goal? You are seriously blaming Roloson for that?

Watch the shot again, it should've been stopped but glanced off his arm and in. The shot was far from perfect and would be stopped by NHL goaltenders the majority of the time.

While the 2nd goal was the least his fault of the 3, I feel he needlessly commited much too early.

But hey, the commentators blamed Brewer and you guys agree, I happen to make my own judgements. While Brewer is also at fault, the goalie still had a chance to make a save, which he did not.

Alright, I suppose Hockey Canada is wrong, as they've stressed this point I'm trying to make in the "AAA" development camp last year. Not to mention the two "Junior A" coaches I've played for as well.

It's called creativity. Especially with a player of Nash's calibre.

Not every 2-on-1 can be played the same way. There are many factors, while I agree with you in principle, please note that the defender was Zdeno Chara, do you play against him very often?

Third is just about to get underway. Excess water on the ice though and they're waiting for it to dry up.

3rd underway

What A Stop

What a save by Roloson!

Wow.

What a ****ing terrible play by Roloson.

goal. Wow.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :rant:

Ughhh

We can still win this. Go canada.

goal. Wow.

Darn Slovaks :rant:

guys I just got in like 10 minutes ago.

Can somebody please tell me how Halak has been?

No offense to Oilers fans, but Roloson really sucks. Maybe I'm just used to watching Luongo, but Roloson gives up way too many iffy goals.

I'd start Mason next game. Not a huge Ward fan and I liked Mason alot this year, I think he is better than Vokoun.

guys I just got in like 10 minutes ago.

Can somebody please tell me how Halak has been?

Not great, not horrible. Just okay.

Roloson should change his name to Hoover :naughty:

No offense to Oilers fans, but Roloson really sucks. Maybe I'm just used to watching Luongo, but Roloson gives up way too many iffy goals.

2 of the 4 goals against have been of the iffy nature. Not very impressive.

No offense to Oilers fans, but Roloson really sucks. Maybe I'm just used to watching Luongo, but Roloson gives up way too many iffy goals.

I'll never understand why people say "No offense" then say something they know to be insulting.

It's like, "No offense canuck fans, but you're about to get owned in the second round, your team sucks, and you guys are just plain losers"

Seriously though, *** was that rollie :(

Wow, IIHF strikes again. Pathetic.

lol "crosscheck"

Wow... Doan gets a cross checking penalty and he never even used his stick. What a terrible call. This officiating is brutal.

HORRIBLE CALL :rant:

missed last goal....is it stell 4:4?

missed last goal....is it stell 4:4?

http://live82.ihwc.net/english/scores/

Here you go.

As I said earlier, I am impressed when they get a call correct.

lol "crosscheck"

Yeah. Irrelevant whether its crosscheck or interference of checking from behind, though. Same 2 minute penalty.

Can a linseman call a minor penalty?

http://live82.ihwc.net/english/scores/

Here you go.

thanks...but HFBoards is faster that ihwc.net

Can a linseman call a minor penalty?

If against Canada, yes.

Yeah. Irrelevant whether its crosscheck or interference of checking from behind, though. Same 2 minute penalty.

Um, the player was skating backwards and Doan was skating forward. They both collided. No ****ing penalty, even in your biased eyes.

anyone need a better reason than that penalty as to why North Americans don't take this tournament seriously?

Classic IIHF call, has to happen at least once a game. Just totally blown call where the refs clearly never saw what happened.

If against Canada, yes.

thats the rule?

Yeah. Irrelevant whether its crosscheck or interference of checking from behind, though. Same 2 minute penalty.

How about, both players collided and this BS penalty is a ****ing joke?

Maybe even a penalty to the pansy for trying to draw a call by acting as if he'd been shot.

Um, the player was skating backwards and Doan was skating forward. They both collided. No ****ing penalty, even in your biased eyes.

Nope. the Slovak was standing. And seeing as i'm a fan of neither team, the bias isn't in my eyes.

thats the rule?

That's they way it's been for a long time, whether it's the official rule, I am uncertain of.

The call on Doan was pretty standard in IIHF. I thought it was borderline if it's a penalty or not. It was definietly not a cross-check at least. Not that bad of a call though.

Powerplay, must get the lead back!

Nope. the Slovak was standing. And seeing as i'm a fan of neither team, the bias isn't in my eyes.

Ignored.

Nope. the Slovak was standing. And seeing as i'm a fan of neither team, the bias isn't in my eyes.

How many times do I have to say this in this thread: watch the play again. The Slovak was skating backwards and skated right into Doan.

Nope. the Slovak was standing. And seeing as i'm a fan of neither team, the bias isn't in my eyes.


Being unbiased doesn't mean you know what you're talking about.

Scooooooooores

goooooooooooooooooal

rick nash!

5-4!

Goal Canada! Rick Nash with the tip.

Nice recovery by Roloson. Almost another goal for the Slovaks.

This Uram guy is quite the cherry picker.

did they credit Nash with that goal? He clearly tipped it.

anyone need a better reason than that penalty as to why North Americans don't take this tournament seriously?

Classic IIHF call, has to happen at least once a game. Just totally blown call where the refs clearly never saw what happened.

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=373634
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=375571

:naughty:

The call on Doan was pretty standard in IIHF. I thought it was borderline if it's a penalty or not. It was definietly not a cross-check at least. Not that bad of a call though.

You could just as easily argue that it was interference penalty on Kapus. Doan was trying to get back into the play, Kapus backed into him and impeded his progress up the ice. The fact that he didn't mean to do it is irrelevent.

Nash has been a monster in this tournament so far. I don't think his star has faded, as some people have thought. He had an off-year that was plagued by injuries and he transformed his game under Hitchcock; he also became a much better playmaker (even from watching this tournament you can tell that his playmaking ability is much better than it was when he won the Richard). Next year I think he'll be back to form.

No call, ridiculous gimme a break!

Staal grabbed with both hands and taken to the ground. No call. Lol.

The Slovak was skating backwards and skated right into Doan.
Ok, let's assume he was sliding backwards. Does that make it ok to hit him in the back?

Nash has been a monster in this tournament so far. I don't think his star has faded, as some people have thought. He had an off-year that was plagued by injuries and he transformed his game under Hitchcock; he also became a much better playmaker (even from watching this tournament you can tell that his playmaking ability is much better than it was when he won the Richard). Next year I think he'll be back to form.

Agreed.

This Uram guy is quite the cherry picker.

:biglaugh: :biglaugh: I noticed the same thing.

I'll never understand why people say "No offense" then say something they know to be insulting.

It's like, "No offense canuck fans, but you're about to get owned in the second round, your team sucks, and you guys are just plain losers"

Seriously though, *** was that rollie :(

Haha, well I'm just stating my opinion and that opinion is completely independent of any feelings towards the Oilers or their fans. Roloson has not been impressive at all in this tournament so far.

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=373634
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=375571

:naughty:


It's a little different when you have referees calling things that they saw and thought was a penalty, that is their opinion. But, when you have a ref calling a penalty like that where his call indicates that he never saw, that's a problem.

Refereeing is subjectove for sure, buit it would be nice to know that the refs ould not be making calls on plays that they didn't even see. And, like I said, it happens, pretty much every game. A totally unexplained call based on no evidence or conceivable logic.

how much time left?

It's a little different when you have referees calling things that they saw and thought was a penalty, that is their opinion. But, when you have a ref calling a penalty like that where his call indicates that he never saw, that's a problem.


I'm too lazy to search a threads about Koharski or McGough, honestly ;)

Refereeing is subjectove for sure, buit it would be nice to know that the refs ould not be making calls on plays that they didn't even see. And, like I said, it happens, pretty much every game. A totally unexplained call based on no evidence or conceivable logic.
He talked with linceman a bit, I remember this moment very good.. Sopcast's stream had some troubles just before this moment.

I'm too lazy to search a threads about Koharski or McGough, honestly ;)

Reffing is bad in the NHL from time to time, yes. It is bad in the IIHF every single game. Big difference.

2 and a half mins left.

4 mins left...

6 mins left?

2 minutes

2 and a half mins left.

Yeah, watching it on Sopcast, so I guess I'm lagging a bit.

1 and a half left.

Goalie pulled. Time out Slovakia. 68 secs left.

Thanks a lot.

Oh God, hold on Canada!

Thanks a lot.

Say what?

19 seconds left. Faceoff in Canada end.

Timeout Canada.

Reffing is bad in the NHL from time to time, yes. It is bad in the IIHF every single game. Big difference.

I'm not saying you are wrong, but if you read the gdts for nhl games, you get the impression that nhl referees are equally bad.

I'm not saying you are wrong, but if you read the gdts for nhl games, you get the impression that nhl referees are equally bad.

Whining of missed calls or calls not going your way is what makes most of the banter in every gdt.

I'm not saying you are wrong, but if you read the gdts for nhl games, you get the impression that nhl referees are equally bad.

Homers.

May be a bit late here, but why did the refs stop play? Too many guys in Roloson's crease? huh? what kind of rule is that?

Game Over. 5-4 Canada.

Canada wins! I wasn't expecting that.

WOOOOOOOOO CANADA WINS :clap:

May be a bit late here, but why did the refs stop play? Too many guys in Roloson's crease? huh? what kind of rule is that?

Slovak caught him with his stick.

congrats

Yeahhh!!! Big save by Roloson to save the game!

GO CANADA WOOT!!

I'm too lazy to search a threads about Koharski or McGough, honestly ;)


He talked with linceman a bit, I remember this moment very good.. Sopcast's stream had some troubles just before this moment.

So that means there were two guys that "saw" the play and together could not even come up with a call thaqt made any sense at all based on what happened.

It's pretty hard to crosscheck someone when you have one hand on your strick the whole play, but that escaped those two guys. So you gotta think that either they didn't see the play, or they don't know what a crosscheck is. Both are pretty worrisome.

Why did Canada has home ice advantage (Im assuming as the McClement line was always out there against the Demitra line)?

Points why we lost:
a) Our PK was horrendous. It was 3/4 but the one we killed off was the one cut by Cammalleri's penalty.
b) The Demitra line is trying to play WAY too cute. The Kapus line may not play nicely but they did score 2 goals.
c) Halak was shaky. The Mayers goal could have been saved and on the Williams wrap around he was totally nowhere.
d) Why the coach didnt try to get Hossa away from the good checking line of Chimera-McClement-Mayers is beyond me.

Canada won as they were better but the Demitra line must stop playing like its an exhibition. :(

Slovak caught him with his stick.
It was stopped cause Hossa was in the crease.

I want to see the highlights...:yo:
In your opinion Toews is ready to the NHL?

I want to see the highlights...:yo:
In your opinio Toews is ready to the NHL?
Shortly: Yes.

it was really good game tonight

CBJ fan here, Whats everyones opinion on Nash and Chimera? Im really glad to see Jason Chimera out there for Canada. Lots of heart, Grit and some skill!

some pictures from the game here (http://www1.hokej.sk/spravy/index.php?clanok=48394)

In your opinion Toews is ready to the NHL?

He looks like a great one, just a winner.

CBJ fan here, Whats everyones opinion on Nash and Chimera? Im really glad to see Jason Chimera out there for Canada. Lots of heart, Grit and some skill!

Nash has been unstopable going to the net, he hasn't potted many goals but he has been a force that nobody has contained yet. Hopefully the tip goal at the end there will give him some confidence and help him find the mesh, but otherwise he's been great. The strangest part, one more than one occasion he the first forward back on the odd man rush against, he swiveled his head and found the extra man and covered him, something I have never seen from Nash.

The strangest part, one more than one occasion he the first forward back on the odd man rush against, he swiveled his head and found the extra man and covered him, something I have never seen from Nash.

I think it is safe to say "Thank you Ken Hitchcock." for this part. For all the Nash haters, I wouldn't be surprised if next season is a bit of a coming out party for Nash.