Is it because Anaheim isn't a Canadian team?

Hockey Duckie
04-22-2007, 05:37 PM
Anaheim's May is suspended for 3 games. Calgary's Langkow isn't suspended. The players they each hit had injuries that forced them not to play the next game. Odd, isn't it? I'd be ticked off if I was Brian Burke!

Article on May's hit:

The NHL suspended Ducks winger Brad May for the next three playoff games for punching Minnesota Wild defenseman Kim Johnsson in the face near the end of Game 4 in the Western Conference quarterfinal series.

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The incident took place with 1 minute 48 seconds left in the Wild's 4-1 victory. Johnsson was heading toward a skirmish involving the Ducks' Kent Huskins and Shawn Thornton and the Wild's Adam Hall. May intercepted Johnsson and swung at the defenseman after dropping his gloves. The punch left Johnsson with an unspecified head injury, one that will keep him out of the lineup, according to General Manager Doug Risebrough.

Wild officials said Johnsson remained in Minnesota after spending Tuesday night at a local hospital. It was not yet known if Johnsson would return should there be a Game 6.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/hockey/nhl/ducks/la-sp-may19apr19,1,5855998.story?coll=la-headlines-sports-nhl-ducks


Article on Langkow & Calgary's thing:

McLennan's slash was part of an undisciplined display from Calgary that included a Daymond Langkow uppercut to the face of Brett Lebda following a Lebda hip-check, along with a Jarome Iginla butt-end, leading to a late game crosscheck on Red Wings veteran Mathieu Schneider.

Lebda will not play tonight for Detroit because of an injury. Lebda is said to be suffering "headaches."

http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=205181&hubname=nhl

Kenadyan
04-22-2007, 05:41 PM
No, actually it's because the league has a vendetta against Anaheim.

Now that the Islanders are knocked out, the league will focus their attention to screwing over the Ducks. :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

:sarcasm:

And for those who don't get the joke --> :sarcasm:

lux_interior
04-22-2007, 05:48 PM
Whatever. I'm not looking to whine about May's suspension. He got suspended...he'll serve it...he'll be back. BFD.

TeMoZ
04-22-2007, 05:57 PM
It's ironic if it's true because the Ducks have the most amount of Canadians on their roster than any other team.

I think it has something to do with the media and the type of players. The NHL sees May punch someone in a scrum and say he's Brad May he does this all the time and no one will care if we suspend him. They see Langkow do something that IMO was worse and they say oh he's Daymond Langkow, he had a demon posses his body for 5 seconds so he did that and if we suspend him everyone and their mothers will hate us.

Hockey Duckie
04-22-2007, 05:57 PM
Ummm... not whining about May's suspension. I am whining at the inconsistency of the consequences or lack of it given out by the NHL. Read it again, comprehensively, and see what is "implied".

Heavy Hussar
04-22-2007, 06:02 PM
i could care less if may plays the rest of the playoffs or not

lux_interior
04-22-2007, 06:06 PM
Ummm... not whining about May's suspension. I am whining at the inconsistency of the consequences or lack of it given out by the NHL. Read it again, comprehensively, and see what is "implied".

I'd say the suspensions were fair.

theShiba
04-22-2007, 06:12 PM
No, actually it's because the league has a vendetta against Anaheim.

Now that the Islanders are knocked out, the league will focus their attention to screwing over the Ducks. :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

:sarcasm:

And for those who don't get the joke --> :sarcasm:

Are you being sarcastic?

Live in the Now
04-22-2007, 06:12 PM
May=fighter

Langkow=non-fighter

That's basically what it is.

TheJoeMan
04-22-2007, 06:14 PM
May got three game because of his past history and Johnsson's concussion problem's. I would have liked to have seen Langkow fined but maybe the league felt they fined that team enough. But who cares? What's done is done. Calgary is going to be eliminated today anyway so it really doesn't matter.

Jerky Leclerc
04-22-2007, 06:37 PM
Langkow was more reactionary IMO. He reacted to the sliding hip check which almost took out his knees.

Snap Wilson
04-22-2007, 06:42 PM
I've loved the way May has played for us, but he should have gotten ten games. Langkow should have gotten something as well, regardless of the circumstances. As long as the league hands out these joke suspensions, players are going to continue to get hurt.

lux_interior
04-22-2007, 07:03 PM
I watched the replay of Langkow's incident. I don't feel a suspension is warranted in his case...it was more of a reaction than May's punching Johnsson.

A penalty for Langkow? Yes, a 2 minute minor for roughing. A suspension? Hell no.

FissionFire
04-22-2007, 07:08 PM
Langkow wasn't going to get suspended for an elimination game. He's the Flames 2nd best forward. May is a marginal 4th liner. That's like saying you should suspend Andy MacDonald if you are facing an elimination game for that exact same thing. Skill players and stars aren't going to get suspended in the playoffs until it's completely over-the-top blatant, which Langkow wasn't. Maybe the NHL should suspend Pronger next time he cross-checks someone from behind to clear the crease after a whistle right? Same thing as suspending Langkow. You don't make a series-altering suspension unless there isn't a choice.

Snap Wilson
04-22-2007, 07:08 PM
I watched the replay of Langkow's incident. I don't feel a suspension is warranted in his case...it was more of a reaction than May's punching Johnsson.

A penalty for Langkow? Yes, a 2 minute minor for roughing. A suspension? Hell no.

Dude, he grabbed the guy by the head while he was on all fours and gave him a solid uppercut. I think the league should discourage that sort of thing. Sure, he was angry for the low bridge but that's no excuse. The game is dangerous enough without that crap.

Snap Wilson
04-22-2007, 07:10 PM
Langkow wasn't going to get suspended for an elimination game. He's the Flames 2nd best forward. May is a marginal 4th liner. That's like saying you should suspend Andy MacDonald if you are facing an elimination game for that exact same thing.

If McDonald did something like that, he should.

Skill players and stars aren't going to get suspended in the playoffs until it's completely over-the-top blatant, which Langkow wasn't.

I can't see what would make it any more blatant.

Maybe the NHL should suspend Pronger next time he cross-checks someone from behind to clear the crease after a whistle right?

If he cross-checked them in the head, sure.

lux_interior
04-22-2007, 07:15 PM
Dude, he grabbed the guy by the head while he was on all fours and gave him a solid uppercut. I think the league should discourage that sort of thing. Sure, he was angry for the low bridge but that's no excuse. The game is dangerous enough without that crap.

It's hockey. I don't think it was a suspendable offense.

bodybreak
04-22-2007, 07:20 PM
The NHL favouring a Canadian team? It's about time! Sadly, I don't think these incidents are major enough to count as favouritism. Anaheim's still gonna roll over everyone, in the West anyway. I hope Detroit doesn't make it out of the first round, but we'll see.

190Octane
04-22-2007, 07:20 PM
It was more of a facewash than an upper cut, there's a difference between what Langkow did and what May did.

GPickus
04-22-2007, 08:00 PM
The suspensions in the NHL have always been crazily inconsistent, but I don't think the league has ever favored one team above the others. Something I never liked about the nhl was that the more attention a dirty play got in the American mainstream media, the longer the suspension tended to be. One thing the NHL has been consistent on though is that players with a history of dirty hits/punches and general goonery (May, Chris Simon, the now retired Bryan Marchment) tend to get longer suspensions because they are repeat offenders.

Randall Graves*
04-22-2007, 08:14 PM
Johnsson didn't even get a concussion, sounds more like he got a black eye but May's past history played into the decision. I don't think May is any better than Shawn Thornton anyways..the difference is veteran experiance, but Thornton is faster.

Spankatola Jamnuts
04-22-2007, 08:30 PM
I don't think what Langkow did was really all that bad. He took a lot off of that punch and Lebda's reaction was more fear than anything IMO.

May didn't sucker Johnsson but he coldcocked him really for no reason, and then ragdolled him around the ice for a while. May's was much worse and 3 games is probably light.

tiz
04-22-2007, 08:39 PM
Langkow was a retaliation, May was an unprovoked punch... One is worse than the other.

Sojourn
04-22-2007, 08:49 PM
Langkow was a retaliation, May was an unprovoked punch... One is worse than the other.

Truth. The two incidents were very different.

Snap Wilson
04-22-2007, 10:26 PM
I don't know if Langkow took something off that punch, but Lebda's concussion seems to suggest otherwise, unless you believe that Detroit is just f'ing around and deciding not to play a defenseman in a Game 6 that they would rather have out there. I agree that it didn't look that severe on camera, but just because it didn't look that way doesn't mean it wasn't, and if a player is showing physical repercussions from it, than you can't assume it wasn't.

I'm also not saying that May and Langkow merited the same punishment. There are degrees to these things. He should have gotten something, though.

Spankatola Jamnuts
04-22-2007, 11:00 PM
I don't know if Langkow took something off that punch, but Lebda's concussion seems to suggest otherwise, unless you believe that Detroit is just f'ing around and deciding not to play a defenseman in a Game 6 that they would rather have out there. I agree that it didn't look that severe on camera, but just because it didn't look that way doesn't mean it wasn't, and if a player is showing physical repercussions from it, than you can't assume it wasn't.

Lebda bent his knee badly on the hit and went off the ice not putting any weight on it. It would not surprise me to find that Lebda's injury is to his knee and not his head.

Pepper
04-23-2007, 12:29 AM
Langkow's punch wasn't that hard, you can't suspend every player that throws a gloved punch because every scrum would result 2-3 suspensions.

banana phone
04-23-2007, 12:33 AM
Langkow's punch wasn't that hard, you can't suspend every player that throws a gloved punch because every scrum would result 2-3 suspensions.

maybe so, but the fact he grabbed his head and held it there to punch makes it worse.

Snap Wilson
04-23-2007, 12:52 AM
Lebda bent his knee badly on the hit and went off the ice not putting any weight on it. It would not surprise me to find that Lebda's injury is to his knee and not his head.

That's speculation. Detroit is saying it's symptomic of a concussion. Is there a point to them lying about it? Especially since they didn't do anything about Langkow, anyway. You know, if he's actually hurt, then it's "lower body injury" or whatever.

Langkow's punch wasn't that hard, you can't suspend every player that throws a gloved punch because every scrum would result 2-3 suspensions.

You don't know how hard it was any more than I do. The only evidence we have, anecdotal or otherwise, is that it did some damage. And having the glove on doesn't do anything. You hold somebody's head like that and pop them, you'll hurt them with or without gloves.

Heavy Hussar
04-23-2007, 02:01 AM
oh BTW the ducks are more canadian than any team in canada ;)

Hockey Duckie
04-23-2007, 02:10 AM
That's speculation. Detroit is saying it's symptomic of a concussion. Is there a point to them lying about it? Especially since they didn't do anything about Langkow, anyway. You know, if he's actually hurt, then it's "lower body injury" or whatever.


Defenseman Brett Lebda will not play Sunday after he suffered a concussion from being punched in the face by Daymond Langkow.
- http://tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?fid=10460&hubname=

Pepper
04-23-2007, 11:16 AM
You don't know how hard it was any more than I do. The only evidence we have, anecdotal or otherwise, is that it did some damage. And having the glove on doesn't do anything. You hold somebody's head like that and pop them, you'll hurt them with or without gloves.

I saw the punch, it wasn't that hard. Gaborik's punch and Beauchemin was about as hard. Was Gaborik suspended?

Hockey Duckie
04-23-2007, 10:24 PM
I saw the punch, it wasn't that hard. Gaborik's punch and Beauchemin was about as hard. Was Gaborik suspended?

Did Beauch not play the next game due to concussion like symptoms due to a punch?

lux_interior
04-23-2007, 10:32 PM
Yeah but Beauchemin is a man.

Spankatola Jamnuts
04-24-2007, 12:59 AM
That's speculation. Detroit is saying it's symptomic of a concussion. Is there a point to them lying about it?

I dunno. But I think they are.

brianp
04-25-2007, 12:16 AM
Because Brian May's a buddy of Bert's...

The Dion#3
04-25-2007, 10:30 AM
I dont think their is a bias towards U.S. franchise, at least I hope not. May is a repeat offender, Langkow is not. If you look closely Langkow opens his hand, it was more like a stiff "Stinky Face" which is slang for rubbing your sweaty palms into a players face. I have no doubt that Lebda's injury is to his lower half and not his head. That's all part of the gamesmanship of the playoff's, listing injuries as something else. I have never seen a clear picture of the May punch, so I cant comment on the severity of it. With that being said Go Ducks, my favourite player outside of a Flames uniform is Ryan Getzlaf and I am Anaheim heavy in my pools. I believe in the talent of your team and obviously witnessed it first hand last playoff's.

trbr86
04-25-2007, 11:01 AM
Any suspension May gets is going to be longer due to his track record. This guy has had a lot of questionable incidents prior to, and the fact that he blindsided a player after being involved in the whole Moore-Bertuzzi debacle... well, you'd think he he'd know better.

It's certainly not a bias against a US franchise.

puck_08
04-25-2007, 12:24 PM
Defenseman Brett Lebda will not play Sunday after he suffered a concussion from being punched in the face by Daymond Langkow.
- http://tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?fid=10460&hubname=

Has been updated to:
The Wings may also have to start the series without Brett Lebda; he is nursing a sore right ankle and had to borrow a crutch from fellow defenceman Niklas Kronwall (out with a displaced sacrum) to bear some of the weight. Until Lebda can play again, the Wings will rely on Kyle Quincey.

Did that happen from a punch in the face? No.

The Dion#3
04-25-2007, 12:35 PM
The NHL has full access to medical records when it comes to possible suspensions. They decided not to suspend Langkow, whether this decision has anything to do with a concussion or non-concussion I don't know, you decide. Why are we hijacking the Anaheim board anyway on this? Sorry all, you have bigger fish to fry, as in Orca Whales big! :yo: