Scott Gomez Appreciation Thread

Cry_Wolf
04-19-2007, 11:04 AM
I can't believe all the haters of Gomer on here. I know the guy makes mistakes and we all bust him for it, but I think we are way too hard on the guy. While he did have an amazing run last year and a not so great year this year;' I don't think Gomer is capable of playing like a top 30 goal scorer.

Personally I think Gomer is our best play maker on the ice and that's what he is a play maker. He did great last night and got some chances created for EGG, along with scoring the game winner. We should all be very great full that we have someone like Gomez on our top line or the EGG line probably wouldn't be as exciting or as skilled to watch.

Gomer's speed and skill are a great asset to us; and I don't think we could find another player quite like him again.

I think there is way too much hate for him around here. I'm not creating this just because of the game-winner last night, but because I just don't understand all of this hate.

Where would we be without Gomez?

MacBeatsPang
04-19-2007, 11:12 AM
Unfortunately I had to play a game in my inline league last night and missed the OT, but I LOVED what I saw from Gomer to that point. Taking the body, lots of jump. At one point when he was mixing it up after the whistle I practically yelled at the screen -- YES, THAT'S IT, YOU'RE FIGHTING FOR YOUR LIFE!!! I'd been waiting to see that kind of fire from someone other than Zach for the whole series and last night a bunch of guys had it. And we won, even with Marty not really being Marty. Let's hope Gomer keeps that and spreads it 'round a bit more for 5, 6 and (maybe) 7.

jerseydevil
04-19-2007, 11:26 AM
Gomes showed a lot of heart last night..he was in every scrum around the net...he had a bunch of chances that he didn't bury..but he buried the most imporatnt one of the night...Gomez is one of the main catalysts for our offense and opefully he keeps bringing the same intensity for the rest of the playoffs..

thefiestygoat
04-19-2007, 11:35 AM
I am not a big fan of Gomez at all. I have been really upset with him. He did bring more intensity and came up big last night, hopefully he can get on some sort of hot streak. If he is on, then that really helps Elias and Gionta.

MoonDragn
04-19-2007, 11:37 AM
I was never impressed with Gomez that much. Yes, he has occassional flashes of brilliance, but most of the time he shoots like he can't hit the side of the barn. Yes he's a great playmaker, but sometimes you gotta just shoot the net!

MKWing26
04-19-2007, 12:02 PM
I've been ragging on him alot this year, but that play in OT was pure beauty. He had everyone fooled, probably even Gio, too.

TB Sheets
04-19-2007, 12:08 PM
I've been a Gomez fan for a while now - mosts of my posts in the Gomez threads can bear that out.

I think he's very underrated by most Devils fans. All you need to realize about him is that he's not a goal scorer, he's a setup man. If you can approach his performance with the idea that every goal we get out of him is pure gravy, it's easy to appreciate what else he brings to this team.

Keep in mind that 13 out of 18 seasons Adam Oates had 20 goals or less. But that never took away from the accolades he received for what he did best - dish the puck off to a goal scorer.

Overtime98
04-19-2007, 12:12 PM
Gomer's speed and skill are a great asset to us; and I don't think we could find another player quite like him again.



I agree 150 percent.

Whether or not he scores each night, I agree.

Gomez is going no where...

Brooklyndevil
04-19-2007, 12:22 PM
The guy had a tough year, but if this team plans to go further, we will need him and his linemates at their best. He may have saved our season last night with his goal and lets hope his confidence his sky high. I'm happy for Gomer.

Easton
04-19-2007, 12:27 PM
That was probably Gomez's best of the season last night. I have always wondered where his fiesty attitude went after his rookie season, and last night brought back some good memories.

Hirnalon
04-19-2007, 12:34 PM
When I became a Devils fan, Gomez was my favorite player after Sykora. Man i miss that dude so much!
Anyways after last year's performance it's a little bit frustrating that he scored so few goals, especially with the big money he's been earning but if he steps up, like he did yesterday, then I'll have to say, yeah, he deserves that money. Because playoffs is the most important time of the year, and this is when you have to step up, and make pretty plays, and play with 100% of your heart, not in the regular season!

JDevils3
04-19-2007, 12:42 PM
I'm a big Gomer fan, but he has had a real tough season. Had a great game one, but until the OT last night he has had a bad series. Before the OT he was not good last night, so many turnovers and weak passes. I hope that great shot in OT will get Gomer and that line going. If that line produces we win this series. :handclap:

MoonDragn
04-19-2007, 12:46 PM
I would rather have sykora back than gomer. He and Elias just work well together.
I think Sykora has the build and the same skills, but the chemistry between him and Elias was just unmatched.

DEVILS ALL THE WAY
04-19-2007, 01:01 PM
I'm a big Gomer fan, but he has had a real tough season. Had a great game one, but until the OT last night he has had a bad series. Before the OT he was not good last night, so many turnovers and weak passes. I hope that great shot in OT will get Gomer and that line going. If that line produces we win this series. :handclap:

What ????

He played with passion and was feeding Elias, Gionta and the point all night long. He didn't get a assist on Gionta's goal, but he's the one that gave the puck to the point in order to get a shot from Oduya and the rebound to Gionta.

TB Sheets and myself keep on reminding people that Gomez brings alot more then just stats to his team. He's our QB when we have to bring the puck up the ice, he freeze's defenders when he has the puck and opens up the ice for the 4 other players that are there with him, he's a PURE PLAYMAKER, etc...

devils1983
04-19-2007, 01:11 PM
Gomes showed a lot of heart last night..he was in every scrum around the net...he had a bunch of chances that he didn't bury..but he buried the most imporatnt one of the night...Gomez is one of the main catalysts for our offense and opefully he keeps bringing the same intensity for the rest of the playoffs..

So he did what is always expected of him every game. The EGG line had no choice but to come out firing lastnight, infact the whole team had to bring their game up about 3 levels. Marty I'm a little concerned about. He's letting in too many soft goals this series. He needs to come up huge next game.

TaiMaiShu
04-19-2007, 01:14 PM
Gomez has struggled to find the net all year. But he brings so much to our team and losing him would put us in a lot of trouble.

jerseydevil
04-19-2007, 01:43 PM
I would rather have sykora back than gomer. He and Elias just work well together.
I think Sykora has the build and the same skills, but the chemistry between him and Elias was just unmatched.

You're insane...no GM in the league will offer Sykora 1/4 of Scotty will get...and Sykoa does not have near the same skill set as Gomez...

DevilDog
04-19-2007, 01:44 PM
I'm tough on Gomer because I know how talented he is and what he capable of, we all saw it in game 1. If the Devils are going anywhere this year the EGG line performing up to their potential is critical. Even moreso in this series because it looks like it's going to come down to who's offense can score the most.

SheDevil23
04-19-2007, 03:31 PM
it amazes me to see everyone tearing scottie gomez apart. he is one of the best players new jersey has, and yeah he makes some mistakes but who doesnt? just cause he isnt practically god like zach parise doesnt mean he isnt a good player. i think gomez is under-rated. and if he makes a mistake, its only because the rest of the team isnt pitching in and there is no chemistry. it doesnt all rest on scottie's shoulders.

Rochester22
04-19-2007, 03:46 PM
How does Petr Vrana compare to Gomez?
If we don't sign him this offseason, we might have to plug Vrana in the top line

The Omen*
04-19-2007, 03:56 PM
Whoo hoo 1 game, lets throw rose pedals at his feet. I not a Gomer hater but he's not suited to be with the Devils. I want him with a realy sniper to reach his full potential. He still needs to shoot more.

MissionHockey
04-19-2007, 04:27 PM
How does Petr Vrana compare to Gomez?
If we don't sign him this offseason, we might have to plug Vrana in the top line

We would be in a world of hurt if we did. Vrana is a nice hard working player, but at this point he hasn't been able to put up numbers at the AHL level. If thats the case he will likely never be a top 6 player.

JerryGigantic
04-19-2007, 04:27 PM
Three assists in Game One. Game winner in OT in the biggest game of the season so far. Obviously, Gomer is a huge catalyst for our team in our victories.

Substitute Peter Vrana or take Parise out of his current role (which he is performing like a superstar) and away from Zajac to play top line center (as some suggest) and we likely get swept by TB. Gomez has made the difference in the wins, along with Zach's record setting goal scoring streak on the other line. Having two real serious top lines, thereby splitting the other teams top defenders, is something we haven't had in recent memory. And is key.

Gomer's scrappiness in scrums around the net (the one where he tore the other player's helmet off was a particular favorite) was a great indicator of his intensity and how much he backs his teammates up. After the OT winner, how great was Elias' hug and all the team piling on... One of our all-time hightlights as a franchise.

His comments after the game, about Marty, about Richard Matvichuk, about his two rings and wanting to win, about controlling getting too high from the win and going back to work as soon as the team plane lands was humble and just right. Great interview from one of the faces of the franchise.

5 years/ 6 mil. per. Bank it. Gomez stays a Devil. No way Lou lets him walk, and I don't think he would want to after wins like this one.

DEVILS ALL THE WAY
04-19-2007, 05:50 PM
Whoo hoo 1 game, lets throw rose pedals at his feet. I not a Gomer hater but he's not suited to be with the Devils. I want him with a realy sniper to reach his full potential. He still needs to shoot more.

Gomez is the back bone to this offense. Whitout him setting almost every single goal scored on his line, we'd be out of this SCP in 4. Why give up Gomez, one of the best plaumakers in the NHL, if we can barelly average 2 goals per game during the regular season ??? It's like saying "let's trade away Brodeur since our goaltending is weak" ... it just plain stupid.

Lou's Koolaid
04-19-2007, 06:01 PM
Gomer is the hockey verison of a point guard with the way he can carry the puck into the attacking zone. And its a ton of fun to watch so are his interviews.
Only Gomez and Marty really seem to be the only Devils who charismatic off the ice.
Hpoe we keep just for that reason with the new building and all.

mtx*
04-19-2007, 06:33 PM
It's great that he got us an OT winner, but the reason we had to go to OT was because of one of his unforced errors that led to a TB goal amongst many other unforced errors.....not to mention his failure to score when he was all in front of the net ALONE....

This game shouldn't have gone all the way to OT, we should have won 5-2 or 6-3!

kilo41ak
04-19-2007, 06:53 PM
It's great that he got us an OT winner, but the reason we had to go to OT was because of one of his unforced errors that led to a TB goal amongst many other unforced errors.....not to mention his failure to score when he was all in front of the net ALONE....

This game shouldn't have gone all the way to OT, we should have won 5-2 or 6-3!

5-2 or 6-3 huh? yeah if Gomez makes all the shots he takes right? He's not a goal scorer he is a playmaker, so he won't make every breakaway or alone chance in front of the net, and last nights shot, not many people were gonna tuck that under the goaltender. Last time I read, it was an appreciation thread, take this somewhere else or make a Gomez hater thread. :shakehead

The Omen*
04-19-2007, 10:01 PM
Gomez is the back bone to this offense. Whitout him setting almost every single goal scored on his line, we'd be out of this SCP in 4. Why give up Gomez, one of the best plaumakers in the NHL, if we can barelly average 2 goals per game during the regular season ??? It's like saying "let's trade away Brodeur since our goaltending is weak" ... it just plain stupid.

I'm not giving up on Gomer at all. He's a pure playmaker and his talents are being wasted in Jersey. Give him a real sniper and Gomer would have insane #'s. Elias is not a sniper neither is Gionta. I hope he doesn't sign with us and goes to the caps. Would love to see him with Ovech.

I Hate Tie DOMI
04-19-2007, 11:23 PM
I'm on him because I don't think he brings it every game. He can get very lazy and just go out there and have a skate way too much in a game. If he played hard every shift or even 90% of his shifts...great. Problem is, he doesn't. He is very talented, which is why I hate when he does that because I know he is capable of more. Is he worth $5+ million, I say half the time yes, the other half no. Kinda like this series so far, showed up and played well Game 1, disappeared in Games 2 and 3 and did virtually nothing in Game 4 until he scored the goal in OT. Well see what he does in Game 5.

mtx*
04-20-2007, 12:18 AM
5-2 or 6-3 huh? yeah if Gomez makes all the shots he takes right? He's not a goal scorer he is a playmaker, so he won't make every breakaway or alone chance in front of the net, and last nights shot, not many people were gonna tuck that under the goaltender. Last time I read, it was an appreciation thread, take this somewhere else or make a Gomez hater thread. :shakehead

When you're all alone in front of the net, you should score. When you're all alone in front of the net 3 TIMES (Brylin, Gomez, Parise), you should score at least 1/3 :shakehead :shakehead :shakehead. It doesn't matter if you're Domi, Gretzky, or whoever. ALL PLAYERS were goal scorers before they enter the NHL. And you don't especially get paid 5mil+ to miss point blank easy freebie goals like that. Tanguay, Crosby, and other similar " playmakers " would bury those insane chances without a doubt. And I'm not " hating " on no one, I just think you're celebrating too early. Sure, Gomez scored a much needed OT winner, but he didn't exactly play a picture perfect game. He deserves credit, but too much credit is given. This thread is useless when we still have 2-3 games of hockey left in the series. SAVE THE APPRECIATION WHEN WE WIN THE CUP!

Jamie1
04-20-2007, 12:59 AM
When you're all alone in front of the net, you should score. When you're all alone in front of the net 3 TIMES (Brylin, Gomez, Parise), you should score at least 1/3 :shakehead :shakehead :shakehead.


Then where is the hate for those other players?.

JerryGigantic
04-20-2007, 01:40 AM
Then where is the hate for those other players?.

Kind of like Arod in New York, the more money you make, the higher the expectations. And also with the big pile of money comes a sudden lack of sympathy from fans. Sarge is a loyal, lunchpail guy, nearing the end of his NHL career. Zach is the new wonderboy, blossoming before our eyes. Whereas Gomer is the "overpaid" #1 center who has been underperforming all season long. The hate is a natural thing that really, in all actuality, has very little to do with Scott Gomez the person. Would be basically the same for anybody in similar circumstances.

Scotty is pretty beloved, actually. If he continues to succeed in the playoffs and pulls off a few more game winners, this appreciation thread will get a whole lot longer.

Malouds
04-20-2007, 01:43 AM
Kind of like Arod in New York, the more money you make, the higher the expectations. And also with the big pile of money comes a sudden lack of sympathy from fans. Sarge is a loyal, lunchpail guy, nearing the end of his NHL career. Zach is the new wonderboy, blossoming before our eyes. Whereas Gomer is the "overpaid" #1 center who has been underperforming all season long. The hate is a natural thing that really, in all actuality, has very little to do with Scott Gomez the person. Would be basically the same for anybody in similar circumstances.

Let's hope Gomer scores like A-Rod is hitting home runs (so far;) ).

Jamie1
04-20-2007, 01:47 AM
The hate is a natural thing that really, in all actuality, has very little to do with Scott Gomez the person. Would be basically the same for anybody in similar circumstances.



Oh I know but when you see it all year everywhere it gets a little sickening. Even Elias and gionta didn't have good years there's not too much you can do except hope they can come out of the funk they are in. I thought Scott played a ok game. The first Devils goal I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) Gomez went in the zone by himself and got the puck and passed it to rafalski. He was also really chippy which I think the last time he was like that was his rookie season. I'd like to see him get three points a game but that's not going to happen every game especially in the playoffs.

Jason MacIsaac
04-20-2007, 02:16 AM
Vrana's skill set is not at the level of Gomez, Vrana is much weaker on the puck, isn't as fast or agile. He stickhandles better then Gomez, he works harder then Gomez, he is a team player..Gomez is a top playmaker in the league. Vrana is actually pretty good at setting up plays.

The reason why I feel Vrana is not dominating is he doesn't have the strength. He has the skills to be putting up a PPG in the AHL. Some weight training in the offseason will help.

JerryGigantic
04-20-2007, 03:21 AM
Oh I know but when you see it all year everywhere it gets a little sickening. Even Elias and gionta didn't have good years there's not too much you can do except hope they can come out of the funk they are in. I thought Scott played a ok game. The first Devils goal I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) Gomez went in the zone by himself and got the puck and passed it to rafalski. He was also really chippy which I think the last time he was like that was his rookie season. I'd like to see him get three points a game but that's not going to happen every game especially in the playoffs.

I thought Scotty had a great game...and loved the chippiness. The moment everyone on the team, starting with Elias, mobbed him after the OT goal was just wonderful. And his comments after the game were pretty much perfect. He comes across as pretty unflappable and seems to really care about his teammates. I, for one, sure hope he stays a New Jersey Devil for life.

Jamie1
04-20-2007, 03:26 AM
and loved the chippiness.

Yeah if anything I hope he keeps that up.

DevilsFan38
04-20-2007, 08:21 AM
I loved this quote in today's papers (http://www.nj.com/devils/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/117704329864950.xml&coll=1&thispage=2) from Gomez (he's talking about the flight back from Anaheim after losing game 6 in '03).

That's the longest flight of my life, the longest flight in history. I read a whole book about George Washington's love affair with Martha. I had to let go of that game somehow and it wasn't easy.
LOL, I can't believe he read a book about GW on the flight back.

MoonDragn
04-20-2007, 09:40 AM
I'm on him because I don't think he brings it every game. He can get very lazy and just go out there and have a skate way too much in a game. If he played hard every shift or even 90% of his shifts...great. Problem is, he doesn't. He is very talented, which is why I hate when he does that because I know he is capable of more. Is he worth $5+ million, I say half the time yes, the other half no. Kinda like this series so far, showed up and played well Game 1, disappeared in Games 2 and 3 and did virtually nothing in Game 4 until he scored the goal in OT. Well see what he does in Game 5.

Thats exactly it. He's lazy. He's not really using his talents, I wonder how much he even practices. Its not his skills, its his attitude. If he showed more enthusiasm, it would do wonders for the team.

TB Sheets
04-20-2007, 11:21 AM
Also keep in mind that Gomez does turn over the puck in the offensive zone a decent amount precisely because he sees the ice so well. A lot of Gomez's best passes are the ones he threads through a defenseman's legs and/or just a inch over their stick, finding a teammate all alone in some uncovered hole waiting to pop it in. When you make plays like that it just stands to reason that a few of those passes will be giveaways. But watch those giveaways and see who he was trying to pass to - and then imagine if the pass had been completed how good a play it would have been.

devils1983
04-20-2007, 11:48 AM
The Leafs board is already talking about FA signings for the summer. One person posted that they Leafs could sign Gomez for $4.5 a year since he didn't have a great season this past year.

Overtime98
04-23-2007, 09:40 AM
Gomez has been awesome lately... He has stepped up his play.

Gomez is going no where.

MoonDragn
04-23-2007, 10:30 AM
Yeah he's looking better in the playoffs, maybe Lou really put the scare in him. When he's working hard like this, it is a joy to watch him play. I wonder if Juliens was holding him back. Another thing I've noticed, before the playoffs, Gionta and Elias were both not smiling much, especially at Gomez. Now they are smiling again, maybe there was something going on behind the scenes.

Jamie1
04-24-2007, 07:14 PM
http://www.livevideo.com/video/3160DABD029144AD9683CB82BE70984F/scott-gomez-gci-commercial-2.aspx



I just uploaded that. He has a few commercials. I know it's hard to hear but you should be find once you turn up your speakers. Other than buying a tv tuner I'm not sure of a better way.

Randal Graves
04-24-2007, 07:19 PM
http://www.livevideo.com/video/3160DABD029144AD9683CB82BE70984F/scott-gomez-gci-commercial-2.aspx



I just uploaded that. He has a few commercials. I know it's hard to hear but you should be find once you turn up your speakers. Other than buying a tv tuner I'm not sure of a better way.

If anyone knows about long distance, it's a guy who carries it coast to coast on every shift.

Jamie1
04-24-2007, 07:20 PM
If anyone knows about long distance, it's a guy who carries it coast to coast on every shift.



Could you hear the sound allright?.

Randal Graves
04-24-2007, 07:22 PM
Could you hear the sound and stuff allright?.

Honestly, no. But that's not because of your rip, its because i'm at work and I don't have headphones. ;)

That's what kept me from making some joke about him scoring with the lady at the end of the ad, for all I know it could have been his grandmother.

Jamie1
04-24-2007, 07:28 PM
Honestly, no. But that's not because of your rip, its because i'm at work and I don't have headphones. ;)

That's what kept me from making some joke about him scoring with the lady at the end of the ad, for all I know it could have been his grandmother.



Oh ok I just wanted to make sure somebody could hear what's he saying. It's not the greatest but I can make it out but that could be because I heard it on tv. They need to put me in the next commercial.

Easton
04-24-2007, 07:36 PM
http://www.livevideo.com/video/3160DABD029144AD9683CB82BE70984F/scott-gomez-gci-commercial-2.aspx



I just uploaded that. He has a few commercials. I know it's hard to hear but you should be find once you turn up your speakers. Other than buying a tv tuner I'm not sure of a better way.
Gomez will be a hockey star turned comedian when he retires.

kilo41ak
04-24-2007, 08:48 PM
When you're all alone in front of the net, you should score. When you're all alone in front of the net 3 TIMES (Brylin, Gomez, Parise), you should score at least 1/3 :shakehead :shakehead :shakehead. It doesn't matter if you're Domi, Gretzky, or whoever. ALL PLAYERS were goal scorers before they enter the NHL. And you don't especially get paid 5mil+ to miss point blank easy freebie goals like that. Tanguay, Crosby, and other similar " playmakers " would bury those insane chances without a doubt. And I'm not " hating " on no one, I just think you're celebrating too early. Sure, Gomez scored a much needed OT winner, but he didn't exactly play a picture perfect game. He deserves credit, but too much credit is given. This thread is useless when we still have 2-3 games of hockey left in the series. SAVE THE APPRECIATION WHEN WE WIN THE CUP!

It wasn't a freebie, watch it agian. And you come on to an "appreciation" thread and sing nothing but a negative tune, that is hating my friend. State that the thread is useless until they win the Cup, not rag on his abilites or lack there of, according to you. I think scoring 60 points on a team where your 6-7 million dollar hero scored 69 (lead team), is pretty damn good. He didn't play a picture perfect game? What do you expect of him? A picture perfect game? Good luck finding a player who plays one. Might i add that he lead the team in Plus-Minus and still does in the Playoffs, also leads all scorers in the playoffs and in assists. Gomez has always been a playmaker from when he played on the Alaska All-Stars Midget-AAA team. He was in juniors and in major Juniors, he is in the NHL. Your argument that he gets too much credit holds no water with the stats he has put up and the room he creates for other players, move on.

fluffernutter mf
04-24-2007, 08:59 PM
Oh I know but when you see it all year everywhere it gets a little sickening. Even Elias and gionta didn't have good years there's not too much you can do except hope they can come out of the funk they are in. I thought Scott played a ok game. The first Devils goal I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) Gomez went in the zone by himself and got the puck and passed it to rafalski. He was also really chippy which I think the last time he was like that was his rookie season. I'd like to see him get three points a game but that's not going to happen every game especially in the playoffs.

In Gionta's defense, he missed about 1/4 of the season. If he had played those 20 games, he could have easily had another 10 goals. And in the whole EGG line's defense, the whole line was together for only about 1/4 of the season, so that probably a big part of it.

furti
04-25-2007, 06:48 AM
New Jersey will win the cup and Gomer will get the Conn Smythe...:handclap:


The salary cap will probably be raised next october so we'll have plenty of room under the cap.
So theoritically there is a good chance that both Raffy and Gomez will resign at the end of the season. Only question is, does Scotty really want to stay an NJ Devil, or does he want to test the FA market? Is it a new challenge, bigger numbers on his bank account, some more rings or just more points beside his name? I think a little bit of everything.
On the other side of the coin, does Lou want him to stay? I'm more than sure, that Lou is counting on him. So what to do now? Lou wants Gomez to be the number one playmaking center on this team, the anchorman of this offense, so he will give Gomez everything he wants.

-More bucks - arranged.
-More offensive style of play - probably arranged, especially if Johnny Mac gets the job.
-More rings - arranged

I'm confident, Gomez will stay, otherwise I will be really sad since he is my favorite player.

RangerBoy
04-25-2007, 07:16 AM
Scott Gomez of the New Jersey Devils is having a great audition for the NHL's free agent market this summer. His Game 4 OT winner is being lauded as "the goal" which propelled the Devils to the series win over the Tampa Bay Lightning.

Gomez can become an unrestricted free agent and will be looking to cash in. He earned $5 million this season and will likely fetch $6.5 million in the open market, which may be too rich for penny-pinching Devils GM Lou Lamoriello.

There is not shortage of teams looking for scoring.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/columnist.jsp?content=20070424_135715_5880

Cha-ching

MoonDragn
04-25-2007, 09:44 AM
question is, who can replace him? I don't think Lou really has that big of a choice of players to chose from. Most of the other UFAs out there are only as good as gomez, there really isn't anyone that stands out.