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Niedermayer21 04-19-2007, 01:50 AM Zach Parise :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :handclap: :handclap: :handclap: :handclap:
BTW, not to toot my own horn, but if you look through my posts, I wanted us to draft Parise the year he was eligible. I wanted us to draft him over all the other prospects that were available. Basically, if we had the first pick, I would have selected Zach. If I could find my post, I would leave a link to it.
But hey, I am just glad the Islanders took Robert Nilsson ahead of us so that we could take Parise. God bless Mike Milbury. ;)
Now let's win the damn series!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Later...:yo:
banana phone 04-19-2007, 01:55 AM my post in another Parise praise thread. :)
Parise has "it." Whatever "it" is is debateable, but it is something all the top stars all have. Call it hockey IQ, or a head for the game, but he flat out knows hockey and it shows. Always makes the right play, always in the correct position (so many of his goals appear to be tap ins like Crosby because they know where the puck is GOING to be before it gets there).
fIREnIcE 04-19-2007, 01:57 AM Zach Parise :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :handclap: :handclap: :handclap: :handclap:
God bless Mike Milbury. ;)
:bow:
Meth Elvis 04-19-2007, 02:15 AM This is a thread i can get behind!
Devils Mike 04-19-2007, 07:31 AM Currently has the most goals in the playoffs. Haven't seen a Devils player do that in a while. :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:
basketcase78 04-19-2007, 08:13 AM All hail the Zach Attack. I remember jumping up and down in 03 when Lou moved up to draft him.
fortheloveof666 04-19-2007, 08:48 AM While I don't pay attention to prospects much...I remember in 03 hearing about this "Parise kid" and just how serious of a player he was, and he was going to shock the world. Well, I can admit I was a complete skeptic...but wow, how wrong that all was.
Last year he was solid, but definitely still feeling out the big league...this year, he just took it by the balls and ran with it. If this kid keeps it up, he may very well be a 50 goal scorer, because he has it; the skill, the aggressive play, and the ability to make plays happen. I really hope this is just the beginning.
:bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:
Brooklyndevil 04-19-2007, 09:16 AM He has a lot of Crosby in him. He has that great determination and in my opinion is already a leader on this team. If I'm not mistaken, he not only leads the team in goals, but in hits as well. Just got to love this kid.
Overtime98 04-19-2007, 09:31 AM Currently has the most goals in the playoffs. Haven't seen a Devils player do that in a while. :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:
Langenbrunner in 03.
parise is awesome, he works hard and has a nact for finding the puck....He will only get better.... I said a few months ago, Parise should get 5 year deal worth 4.5 million a year. He deserves every penny.Sign him up Lou.
JRZ DVLS 04-19-2007, 10:23 AM Zajac is having a similar freshman campaign that Zach did. I can't wait to see these two next Year.
I dont think i can say anymore about Zach that hasn't already been said!
TB Sheets 04-19-2007, 10:32 AM I was going to start a similar thread today, simply because I just want to gush about this kid.
Sure, he's playing hot right now and you can't expect a 1.5 goals-per-game pace to continue, but I still feel that we are currently witnessing a player take a step up from "NHL star" to "NHL superstar". He has a blindingly bright future from what I can see. Crosby will be the dominant player for the next 20 years, but I wouldn't be surprised to see Parise become the Yzerman or Sakic to that era's Gretzky and Lemieux. You know, the "best of the rest" type of player. Not in terms of style of play (Yzerman and Sakic are/were better actual playmakers), but in the way he will be able to dominate a game like Yzerman or Sakic could (and Sakic hasn't really lost a whole lot of that judging by this season).
Even when he isn't scoring he is a threat out there. When's the last time you saw him screw up out on the ice? And when's the last time you saw a Devils game where Parise didn't at least have a great chance to score?
If my daughter was older I'd want her to marry him - mainly because then I'd probably get free tickets. ;)
OK, I got all of that out of my system.
DevilDog 04-19-2007, 10:33 AM ZACH PA-RI-SE
*clap* *clap* *clap-clap-clap*
ZACH PA-RI-SE
*clap* *clap* *clap-clap-clap*
He deserves an A next year.
Cry_Wolf 04-19-2007, 11:09 AM Parise was amazing last night. Crashing the net the chances he got. Shooting whenever possible. Getting into the scraps at the end of the play. He just continues to show why he an amazing player.
Zach Parise > overrated Sidney Crosby
Muttley 04-19-2007, 11:14 AM Zach Parise > overrated Sidney Crosby
wow, :amazed: Perhaps in these first 4 games but let's be careful and not get ahead of ourselves here.
Besides, Crosby has 3 goals & 2 assists against a very good team.
MacBeatsPang 04-19-2007, 11:15 AM He has a lot of Crosby in him. He has that great determination and in my opinion is already a leader on this team. If I'm not mistaken, he not only leads the team in goals, but in hits as well. Just got to love this kid.
What makes him so special is that in his second year he is setting the tone for the entire team. Obviously none of us really know what's going on inside the locker room, but judging from what happens on the ice, it looks like Parise is fast becoming the team's de facto captain.
fightingbooya 04-19-2007, 11:17 AM the thing that impresses me the most is not the points, because i saw him at shattuck and at UND and new that was coming, but the fact that he is now leadin the team in hits as well, not bad for a guy who is only 5'10'' huh. Sidenote, another pure goal scorer to sign after next season from New Jersey's second farm team (UND) is Ryan Duncan. Won the hobey this year, will have a great shot winnin it next year and was second in the country in goals scored(undrafted). All hail parise though!
MacBeatsPang 04-19-2007, 11:21 AM wow, :amazed: Perhaps in these first 4 games but let's be careful and not get ahead of ourselves here.
Besides, Crosby has 3 goals & 2 assists against a very good team.
As much as I'm jazzed about Zach, this is a no-brainer. Crosby is better. If you're judging performance vs. reputation, then it's Parise in a walk, but not on pure talent/performance.
MoonDragn 04-19-2007, 11:25 AM I predict a 50 goal season for Parise sometime in the next few years. He's got so much talent. I also think Clarkson is gonna be another big star for us.
AllStarMe 04-19-2007, 11:31 AM I remember at the beginning of the season talking about haw Parise was going to break out and everything to all my hockey fan friends (who aren't Devils fans) and they looked at me like I was crazy. I am glad he proved me right.
thefiestygoat 04-19-2007, 11:33 AM Parise is the man! He reminds me of Jeter, he just has this leadership and winning ability about him. Its not learned, its just something that is there.
MoonDragn 04-19-2007, 11:35 AM As much as I'm jazzed about Zach, this is a no-brainer. Crosby is better. If you're judging performance vs. reputation, then it's Parise in a walk, but not on pure talent/performance.
I dunno, I saw Crosby play against Ottawa and he just isn't impressing me much. I admit I haven't followed him as much this year so I am biased.
Crosby seem like the charge ahead no matter what type of person, while Zach knows how to move, set up and play with the team.
Brooklyndevil 04-19-2007, 12:02 PM I dunno, I saw Crosby play against Ottawa and he just isn't impressing me much. I admit I haven't followed him as much this year so I am biased.
Crosby seem like the charge ahead no matter what type of person, while Zach knows how to move, set up and play with the team.
I truly love the way Zach plays the game, but Sid the kid he's not. But being Parise is pretty darn good.
MKWing26 04-19-2007, 12:08 PM this is Parise's coming out party. I really want the Devils to move on because I think Zach is going to step it up even more as the playoffs continue along, he's really going to get his name out there if he keeps going like this.
MissionHockey 04-19-2007, 12:59 PM I dunno, I saw Crosby play against Ottawa and he just isn't impressing me much. I admit I haven't followed him as much this year so I am biased.
Crosby seem like the charge ahead no matter what type of person, while Zach knows how to move, set up and play with the team.
I guess Crosby doubling Zach's offensive output means nothing.
MoonDragn 04-19-2007, 01:02 PM I guess Crosby doubling Zach's offensive output means nothing.
He's on a team basically full of rookies. While Zach is on a team traditionally known for reserved play and defense. I think Julien was holding him back all year. I think he would have had a even better sSeason if he wasn't so restricted.
Sidney only had 5 more goals this season than Parise, Sidney had more assists, but thats cause he had partners that could sink the goals. I think Zach could have done the same paired with Elias and Gionta or Gomez.
Muttley 04-19-2007, 01:08 PM As much as I'm jazzed about Zach, this is a no-brainer. Crosby is better. If you're judging performance vs. reputation, then it's Parise in a walk, but not on pure talent/performance.
I agree. I didn't suggest he was better than Crosby (if that's what you meant)
AfroThunder396 04-19-2007, 02:45 PM Parise is one of those great hockey players that just knows what he's doing. Everythign he does seems like he's working on instinct. He's one of those guys that plays a good, clean game and earns the respect of everyone. I know several Ranger fans who hate the Devils to death, but drool every time he makes a great play. Every single play he makes is the right play, simply because of the effort he makes.
I see shades of Joe Sakic, Steve Yzerman, Doug Gilmour, and Brendan Shanahan in him.
dkball7 04-19-2007, 02:49 PM He's on a team basically full of rookies. While Zach is on a team traditionally known for reserved play and defense. I think Julien was holding him back all year. I think he would have had a even better sSeason if he wasn't so restricted.
Sidney only had 5 more goals this season than Parise, Sidney had more assists, but thats cause he had partners that could sink the goals. I think Zach could have done the same paired with Elias and Gionta or Gomez.
No he couldn't have.
Darius Dangleaitis 04-19-2007, 02:53 PM No he couldn't have.
Yeah no way. Zach's ceiling is probably 90 points.
Edit: P.S. I hope he proves me wrong.
devs4L 04-19-2007, 03:30 PM For all the Crosby - Parise comparisons, Crosby may double Parise's production every year, but for my money I'll take the guy who will carry my team in the playoffs, and so far Parise in my opinion has been the best player out of anyone in the playoffs. For those that saw last nights game, the kid put the team on his back and wouldn't be denied. Even when Pratt, and O'Brien were getting in his face he wasn't backing down. Last night was one of the most dominating performances I've ever seen in the playoffs, and def. the most by a 22 year old. He even leads us in hits.
In another thread on hf before the series started I said "after the 2007 playoffs, Parise becomes even more of a steal". So far he's proving me, and many others right.
Niedermayer21 04-19-2007, 04:11 PM Zach is proving that he is a money player by producing in the playoffs.
When I first saw him play, he reminded me of Paul Kariya when Kariya was at Maine.
But Zach is more physical and can play center and wing. Don't forget that he won the MVP of the WJC a few years ago.
BTW, if Pittsburgh wanted Zach and offered me Crosby, I think I would take that deal. Obviously, that is no knock on Zach.
If Edmonton wanted Kirk Muller in 1985 and offered us Gretzky, it wouldn't exactly have been an insult to Muller. Funny, but Muller's Canadiens beat Wayne's Kings in 1993 for the Cup. So maybe we should just keep Zach and let the Pens keep Sid The Kid. ;)
BTW, I have a friend who is an Islanders fan who curses Milbury to this day for not drafting Zach and taking Robert Nilsson instead.
God bless Mike Milbury!!! :D
MoonDragn 04-19-2007, 04:25 PM Can you imagine Gretzky as a NJ devil? After what he said? That would have been halarious. Seriously, I would not trade Zach for Crosby. As good as Crosby is now, I feel he's a one shot wonder. I predict that he's only gonna have a couple of good seasons and then just flop in his career, never winning a cup.
Kind of a shame, just like Alex Ovechkin, stuck on his crappy team.
MissionHockey 04-19-2007, 04:29 PM I am no longer participating in this thread after hearing all the trash that was said.
Crosby a one shot wonder?? If Pittsburgh offered Crosby for Parise you MIGHT take the deal? Do you guys ever listen to yourselves speak??
You guys defn have something special with this kid.
MacBeatsPang 04-19-2007, 05:18 PM I agree. I didn't suggest he was better than Crosby (if that's what you meant)
No, I was agreeing with you.
MacBeatsPang 04-19-2007, 05:21 PM He's one of those guys that plays a good, clean game and earns the respect of everyone.
I see shades of Joe Sakic, Steve Yzerman, Doug Gilmour, and Brendan Shanahan in him.
Yes, and decidedly unlike a certain #4 on a certain sun belt team that soon will be eliminated from the tournament...
TaiMaiShu 04-19-2007, 05:30 PM I give my apprecition to Dave Conte and Lou.
Trade#5 04-19-2007, 05:32 PM what's his contract situation? I'd give him a DiPi contract.. hahaha
Richer's Ghost 04-19-2007, 05:41 PM Zach Pa-reeh-zay is THE MAN! His line should get the first unit PP duty so long as his stick is H-O-T on fire! :clap:
But hey, I am just glad the Islanders took Robert Nilsson ahead of us so that we could take Parise. God bless Mike Milbury. ;)
If it weren't for Ryan Smyth, I'd be crying right now.
Honestly, that choice was inexplicable on draft day.
Enjoy Parise, he's gonna be your next star.
fullmetal2405 04-19-2007, 08:59 PM Enjoy Parise, he's gonna be your next star.
We will ^_^
And I second the "give him a Dipi contract" thing too.
Meth Elvis 04-19-2007, 09:08 PM I love Parise and everything he brings to game but some of you guys need to shake your head when you guys compare him to Crosby. Zach is good and may turn into a superstar but Crosby is already a superstar. Its like how u know when Zach is on the ice he has a chance to do something special, well it about twice as likely that Crosby will do something special.
Dont get me wrong I'd love for Parise to one day be considered as good or better than Crosby but im not going to hold my breath waiting for that and instead I'll just appreciate him what what he is- a kid with a huge heart with a world class skill set.
UND has been fortunate to have some pretty good players over the years, but I've never seen another Sioux player who was so intent upon mastering skills in all phases of the game. As good as his offensive skills were at the NCAA level, his ability to muck it out along the boards stood out as much as anything. Zach will use his brain, his instinct, and his body to maximize every bit of potential he has. Travis seems to be working well with him too.
frankiedue 04-19-2007, 11:33 PM when we did the devils elimination game, everyone flamed me for wanting to keep parise in the game over elias
Staalwart 04-19-2007, 11:57 PM You guys have one hell of a player. Hes got great skills and his work ethic on the ice is second to no one, and I'm sure he has a similar one off. I was praying the Rangers took him with their pick, but took Jessiman instead:shakehead. Enjoy him, you guys are lucky to have a young player like him.
Devilsfanatic 04-20-2007, 12:01 AM DF deserves more appreciation, and his thread was shut down. We aren't allowed a thread for ego maniacal people anymore? For shaaaaaaaame.
On topic: I LOVE PARISE no homo
DoctorDoak 04-20-2007, 02:48 AM I just wanted to add to this thread - Parise's been dynamite in what little I've caught of the Devils, both in the regular and post-season this year. I don't know about point scoring awards, but I could see him winning a Conn Smythe for you guys someday - and to me, that's the greatest honour in hockey aside from the SC itself.
JerryGigantic 04-20-2007, 03:38 AM Don't know how this thread morphed into comparing Zach to Sidney Crosby... Which is inherently unfair and OT for an "appreciation" thread... But one of them is no longer in the playoffs... And it ain't Zach Attack. (Also, one of them whines less.)
Jason MacIsaac 04-20-2007, 06:25 AM Can you imagine Gretzky as a NJ devil? After what he said? That would have been halarious. Seriously, I would not trade Zach for Crosby. As good as Crosby is now, I feel he's a one shot wonder. I predict that he's only gonna have a couple of good seasons and then just flop in his career, never winning a cup.
Kind of a shame, just like Alex Ovechkin, stuck on his crappy team.
Your off the ball then...Crosby is more dynamic, stronger and better in every facit of the game. Crosby has the same hussel as Parise.
åboriginal 04-20-2007, 06:37 AM Zach Parise > overrated Sidney Crosby
i love zach as much as the next dev fan, but i gotta disagree here. crosby may not be that respected in these parts, but the kids insane. now hes not a fav of mine, but i gotta give the credit to him simply cuz hes amazing.
Devilsfanatic 04-20-2007, 07:51 AM Gotta love the homers who think Parise's better.
Crosby >>> Parise
Brooklyndevil 04-20-2007, 09:29 AM I have so much respect for Crosby and consider him to already be a superstar. I don't see where many have posted that Zach is better. However, I have said that Zach has some Crosby in him and to compare a 22-year-old in Parise to the 19-year-old Crosby is a complement to Sid the kid. Like I said before, Zach isn't Crosby, but being Parise ain't bad either.
Muttley 04-20-2007, 09:39 AM I would not trade Zach for Crosby.
If we actually did trade Zach for Crosby, not only would that go down as the most lopsided trade in history, but it would singlehandedly solve most or if not all of our offensive problems for the next say.....15 years.
MoonDragn 04-20-2007, 09:44 AM You really think so? Mr wonder lost to the senators. I saw that last game, it wasn't pretty. He showed no fight at all. Considering it was a do or die game, I didn't see any effort from him at all.
Then again, he just had 4 senators on him at all times. I guess they kept him down.
I know my opinion is biased, but I really think Zach is really talented.
Muttley 04-20-2007, 09:46 AM You really think so? Mr wonder lost to the senators. I saw that last game, it wasn't pretty. He showed no fight at all. Considering it was a do or die game, I didn't see any effort from him at all.
You sure you're not talking about Malkin?
3 goals & 2 assists to lead the team: Crosby had a fine post season debut against one of best teams in the NHL.
MoonDragn 04-20-2007, 09:51 AM You sure you're not talking about Malkin?
3 goals & 2 assists to lead the team: Crosby had a fine post season debut against one of best teams in the NHL.
Well, I don't disagree that Crosby has alot of talent, but I think he's overrated. I expected the Penguins to do alot better against the Senators. I was quite disappointed.
DevFan-RU- 04-20-2007, 09:53 AM Go Parise Go!
Muttley 04-20-2007, 10:03 AM Well, I don't disagree that Crosby has alot of talent, but I think he's overrated. I expected the Penguins to do alot better against the Senators. I was quite disappointed.
Overrated??? He had 120 points and the Art Ross Trophy in just his 2nd season and he's still only 19 years old. He'll probably get the Hart Trophy too, although that should be Brodeur's.
MoonDragn 04-20-2007, 10:18 AM Yeah but most of those 120 points were due to that 84 assists. If he didn't have those other guys on his team, do you think he would have had that many assists?
I'm more impressed by guys with 50+ points than assists. I've seen Ovechkin play and i've seen Crosby play. Ovechkin looks better.
Richer's Ghost 04-20-2007, 10:22 AM A good article from USA hockey on Zach telling alot about his character and drive... needless to say - I think he'll be a Devil for a LONG long time.
http://www.usahockeymagazine.com/story.php?left_nav=0405&article=zachAttack&right_nav=normal
Muttley 04-20-2007, 10:27 AM Yeah but most of those 120 points were due to that 84 assists. If he didn't have those other guys on his team, do you think he would have had that many assists?
I'm more impressed by guys with 50+ points than assists. I've seen Ovechkin play and i've seen Crosby play. Ovechkin looks better.
84 assists are an insane amount and is up there with the all-time greats and current superstars of today.
Yes, 1 Ovechkin highlight goal is more exciting than 4 Crosby assists.
MoonDragn 04-20-2007, 10:31 AM Ok Mutley, you're right. I bow to your greater infinite wisdom.
Muttley 04-20-2007, 10:34 AM Ok Mutley, you're right. I bow to your greater infinite wisdom.
It's just called a difference of opinion. :sarcasm:
TB Sheets 04-20-2007, 10:53 AM As much as I don't like the kid, Crosby's the real deal and, barring a Lindros-like injury-plagued career, will finish amongst Lemieux and Gretzky as one of the best to have ever played the game.
Parise has the ability and talent and work ethic to be a first ballot Hall of Famer at the end of his (hopefully long) career, and (like I said in my earlier post) will be one of the "best of the rest" players in an era that will be dominated by a true hockey prodigy (Crosby).
åboriginal 04-20-2007, 10:58 AM apples and oranges
both are diff style players with diff aproaches, stregths and weaknesses. both are dynamic players that id trade almost any dev for to get one. personally i prefer ovechkin since hes the kind of player that keeps u on the edge of u seat, but in the devs system, hed be tied back. crosby would be a great devil. hes a complete package, but more in the devils type of player. like mutt said, a player like him would solve the devs probs for the next 15, i gotta agree. too bad we dont have either. i wont lose sleep tho. the parise and zajac show will be starting next october and im more than happy with that:yo:
Brooklyndevil 04-20-2007, 12:12 PM You sure you're not talking about Malkin?
3 goals & 2 assists to lead the team: Crosby had a fine post season debut against one of best teams in the NHL.
Yea, Malkin. I slightly better version of Victor Kozlov.
MissionHockey 04-20-2007, 12:13 PM Overrated??? He had 120 points and the Art Ross Trophy in just his 2nd season and he's still only 19 years old. He'll probably get the Hart Trophy too, although that should be Brodeur's.
No it should be Crosby's. The Penguins record was horrible when he doesn't score (something like 2-30-3 I'm not sure). He is the team, and an over the hill Recchi, a talented but sometimes stupid Malkin, and an 18 year old rookie are the other main pieces to the team besides him. If Crosby doesn't play the way he did the Penguins don't even sniff a playoff spot. Plus Crosby is constantly being pitted against the other team's top checkers. As much as I love Zach, especially this postseason, he rarely gets the same attention that Elias, Gomez and Gionta get.
Its unfair to compare Parise to a phenom. Parise is truly a tremendous player in his own right, and it seems like soon he will take Elias' spot as the team's top forward. He's just not there yet.
åboriginal 04-20-2007, 03:02 PM No it should be Crosby's. The Penguins record was horrible when he doesn't score (something like 2-30-3 I'm not sure). He is the team, and an over the hill Recchi, a talented but sometimes stupid Malkin, and an 18 year old rookie are the other main pieces to the team besides him. If Crosby doesn't play the way he did the Penguins don't even sniff a playoff spot. Plus Crosby is constantly being pitted against the other team's top checkers. As much as I love Zach, especially this postseason, he rarely gets the same attention that Elias, Gomez and Gionta get.
Its unfair to compare Parise to a phenom. Parise is truly a tremendous player in his own right, and it seems like soon he will take Elias' spot as the team's top forward. He's just not there yet.
great point, never really thought about that. it should def change next season tho.
Chico Resch 04-20-2007, 11:04 PM This is the way I see it
Crosby: Potential to be a Gretzky or a #66.
Zach: Potenital to be a Sakic or Yzerman.
DraftSpecialist 04-20-2007, 11:07 PM This is the way I see it
Crosby: Potential to be a Gretzky or a #66.
Zach: Potenital to be a Sakic or Yzerman.
This is the way I see it.
You cant see.
Crosby clearly shows the potential to be Gretzky worthy, however Parise being that of Sakic or Yzerman is a joke.
dkball7 04-20-2007, 11:10 PM It's just called a difference of opinion. :sarcasm:
No it's not. It's called you're right and he's wrong.
Rochester22 04-20-2007, 11:11 PM This is the way I see it.
You cant see.
Crosby clearly shows the potential to be Gretzky worthy, however Parise being that of Sakic or Yzerman is a joke.
He said potential, I have watched Zach alot more than you, and it is NOT out of the question that he can average 40 goals a year for a long time.
MoonDragn 04-21-2007, 01:51 AM He said potential, I have watched Zach alot more than you, and it is NOT out of the question that he can average 40 goals a year for a long time.
Heck 40 goals? I predict him breaking 50 goals in 2 years. I'm serious, this kid is GOOD. He won a gold medal at the world juniors ice hockey championships in finland in 2004. Not only that, he was the top scorer and the event's MVP.
DevilBesideYou 04-21-2007, 02:00 AM Zach is better (looking) than Crosby.
Obviously, Crosby is special and the posterboy of the NHL, but Zach is fantastic in his own way and I'm more than content with the thought of him being a Devil for years to come.
Colin Whites Eye 04-21-2007, 02:12 AM when his skate broke tonight, i was laughing so hard haha he had to hop to the bench
classic
Muttley 04-21-2007, 02:25 AM No it's not. It's called you're right and he's wrong.
Yes it is. It's called phony altruism.
Your reply that is. :sarcasm:
Rochester22 04-25-2007, 02:43 PM Nice tele-conference with Lou and Zach http://www.kuklaskorner.com/index.php/hockey/comments/lamoriello_parise/
The quote by Lou about Zach which i find interesting
"This is a skilled player who competes both offensively and defensively and hounds the puck as well as anybody I’ve ever seen."
Mighty fine praise.
fluffernutter mf 04-25-2007, 05:14 PM i love zach as much as the next dev fan, but i gotta disagree here. crosby may not be that respected in these parts, but the kids insane. now hes not a fav of mine, but i gotta give the credit to him simply cuz hes amazing.
I hate Crosby as much as or maybe even more than any fan of any other team, but he does have skill, and for that, I respect him. But I do think Zach really is the more talented of the 2. Like several others have mentioned, Crosby only had those 120 points because he has guys on the team who can get the job done. The same can be said for Gomez. I'm not trying to say anything bad about them, but neither would be able to put up as many points if they didn't have others who can put the puck in. Zach is one of those guys who can get the job done, and if he's with a Crosby or a Gomer, then watch out, but if you put a Gomer with a Crosby, you won't get too much out of it.
haner74 04-25-2007, 07:07 PM I am a much bigger fan of Zach then Sid, but you can't compare the talent level between the two. Sid is amazing to watch and the wingers don't make him better, he makes everyone around him better. It doesn't matter who is on his line, they will score points. Here's to Zach's progression in the NHL and hopefully a top 10 forward in the future.
Jason MacIsaac 04-25-2007, 09:50 PM This thread is a joke...Crosby got his assists because of his linemates? Recchi still has a job in the league because of Crosby and whatever other rookie bum you stick on his wing will certainly get goals only cause of Crosby.
He is the best player the league has seen since Gretzky and Lemiuex, he has that vision that only those two in NHL history had...as good a playmaker Forsberg ever was he didn't have that vision.
Muttley...it isn't a difference of opinion. It is simply you are right and moonman is wrong. Crosby is untradable anyway.
Ovechkin is not as good as Crosby, it isn't even close. Ovechkin is dangerous...Crosby is dangerous and makes his linemates even more dangerous.
Vilela 04-26-2007, 10:37 PM How can you compare both players????
With that said, Parise does have a bright future. He has all the tool to be an elite forward. The only thing that bothers me is that he doesn't use his physical play -- He needs to enforce that. Be a Grinder, Plus against Fisher, He will have a tough time in this series.
DevilsFan38 04-27-2007, 07:37 AM How can you compare both players????
With that said, Parise does have a bright future. He has all the tool to be an elite forward. The only thing that bothers me is that he doesn't use his physical play -- He needs to enforce that. Be a Grinder, Plus against Fisher, He will have a tough time in this series.
Um, what? If you watched the game last night, you'd see that he was throwing his body around plenty. Early on last season this might have been true, but this year he has gotten a lot stronger and been very good along the boards and in the forecheck.
Rochester22 05-07-2007, 11:30 PM bumping this thread because Zach was our best forward this year.
Can't wait to watch him grow next year:handclap:
Chico Resch 05-08-2007, 04:36 AM Zach will score 40 next season!
Overtime98 05-08-2007, 10:31 AM Parise is great but where was he in the 2nd round. We couldve used his goals then.
zp1109 05-08-2007, 01:59 PM My 1st post and a Hockey convert here. Got converted by Zach Parise's charm! ;)
Zach was a streaky scorer in the regular season. And he showed that again in the playoffs. But you gotta give Ottawa credit for limiting the points from the PZL line.
With the character he had shown this year, I have no doubt he'll be better next year and try to be more consistent. He's just 22 and lots more years to come barring any serious injuries, he'll score more goals and hopefully more Stanley Cups for the Devils.
MissionHockey 05-08-2007, 02:01 PM Zach will score 40 next season!
If Zach plays between Gionta and Elias I can see between 70-80 points for him.
Systemfel 05-08-2007, 02:46 PM Parise added to Team USA (http://www.usahockey.com/servlets/followLink?asit_id=2FF4786FE98A2476E0440003BA5FE00 9)
Cool.
DevilBesideYou 05-08-2007, 03:01 PM Parise added to Team USA (http://www.usahockey.com/servlets/followLink?asit_id=2FF4786FE98A2476E0440003BA5FE00 9)
Cool.
Good stuff.
fluffernutter mf 05-08-2007, 03:16 PM Parise is great but where was he in the 2nd round. We couldve used his goals then.
He was on the bench while the Madden line was out there letting everyone score.
Pariseisgod* 05-08-2007, 06:22 PM He was on the bench while the Madden line was out there letting everyone score.
exactly!!!
AfroThunder396 05-08-2007, 08:50 PM I love this section Zach's Wikipedia article:
His offensive prowess has carried the team throughout the season and into the second round of the 2007 playoffs. He has become an obsession for many teenage girls because of his striking good looks and is often bombarded by them.
Wikipedia says it, it's obviously true.
MissionHockey 05-08-2007, 08:59 PM I love this section Zach's Wikipedia article:
Wikipedia says it, it's obviously true.
Matt Damon
http://washington.uwc.edu/depts/compsci/girlscout/Janel/Janel/Matt%20Damon.jpg
Zach Parise
http://booboo.phpwebhosting.com/~usahockey/articles/0405/images/parise_spread1.jpg
Separated at birth?
fluffernutter mf 05-08-2007, 09:06 PM Matt Damon
http://washington.uwc.edu/depts/compsci/girlscout/Janel/Janel/Matt%20Damon.jpg
Zach Parise
http://booboo.phpwebhosting.com/~usahockey/articles/0405/images/parise_spread1.jpg
Separated at birth?
Nope. I think Zach is more attractive ;)
zp1109 05-08-2007, 10:27 PM Nope. I think Zach is more attractive ;)
In some angles yes... But Zach is definitely more attractive and has this charm that Mat Damon hasn't. That's why I got into watching Hockey because of ZP! :D
Devilsfanatic 05-08-2007, 10:31 PM This thread is a joke...Crosby got his assists because of his linemates? Recchi still has a job in the league because of Crosby and whatever other rookie bum you stick on his wing will certainly get goals only cause of Crosby.
He is the best player the league has seen since Gretzky and Lemiuex, he has that vision that only those two in NHL history had...as good a playmaker Forsberg ever was he didn't have that vision.
Muttley...it isn't a difference of opinion. It is simply you are right and moonman is wrong. Crosby is untradable anyway.
Ovechkin is not as good as Crosby, it isn't even close. Ovechkin is dangerous...Crosby is dangerous and makes his linemates even more dangerous.
Exactly, Sid is the absolute best player in the league. I hate when biased fans do stuff like this. I've heard Spezza is better than Lecavalier but this trumps that easily.
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