Game 81 GDT: Ducks vs Stars *April 6, 2007* 5:30pm

Magic Number 2

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5:30 PM PDT
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National TV: NHL NET
Local Home: FSSW
Local Away: PRIME
TV: FSN
Radio: AM 830

at American Airlines Arena/Center
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NHL.com Preview (http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?service=page&page=Preview&gameNumber=1212&season=20062007&gameType=2)
"Any chance the Stars at had at winning the Pacific likely ended Thursday with a 2-1 overtime loss at Columbus. Stu Barnes scored for Dallas, which has lost two straight to non-playoff teams after going 10-1-1 in its previous 12 games."

Standings
Pacific|W|L|O|Pts
Anaheim|47|20|13|107
San Jose|51|26|4|106
Dallas|48|25|7|103
Los Angeles|26|41|14|66
Pheonix|30|45|5|65


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"The Ducks play at Dallas for the eighth and final time in the regular season, with a chance at the Pacific Division title. A win for the Ducks tonight would give them the first division title in team history. It would also ensure a top-three seed in the Western Conference and home ice for the first round of the playoffs."
AnaheimDucks.com Preview (http://anaheimducks.com/press/release/topstory.php?dir=200604&id=1670)

Awesome job on the GDT! :handclap:

Here's to hoping the Ducks can clinch the Pacific tonight!

Jiggy will miss tonight's game, and Saturday's also.

His newborn has a non-life-threatening medical condition.

http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/sections/sports/pros/ducks/

I had a GDT all set up, but then the connection went to crap at UC San Diego! Grrrrrrrrrrrr......... anyhow, here's some extra stuff for the game as well. Oh.. and thanks for very good GDT!


Season Series
Date | Winner | Score
Oct.15 |http://cdn.nhl.com//img/team/dal25.gif | 4-3

Dec.20 | http://cdn.nhl.com//img/team/ana25.gif |4-1

Jan.11 | http://cdn.nhl.com//img/team/ana25.gif |5-1

Jan.28 | http://cdn.nhl.com//img/team/ana25.gif |4-1

Feb.10 | http://cdn.nhl.com//img/team/dal25.gif |1-0

Feb.23 | http://cdn.nhl.com//img/team/dal25.gif |4-1

Mar.23 | http://cdn.nhl.com//img/team/ana25.gif |3-2




Team Comparison
|Anaheim |Dallas
Record: |47-20-13 (107 PTS) | 48-25-7 (103 PTS)
Conference: | 2nd | 6th

Division: | 1st |3rd

Home: | 26-6-9 |26-11-2

Away: | 21-14-4 |22-14-5

L10: |5 – 3 – 2 |6 – 2 – 2

Bryzgalov's chance to step up!

Giguere will miss the last 2 games to be with his wife and newborn baby.

Let's finish this **** tonight. Get our two points and go home!

Rob Niedermayer earns the first powerplay of the game for the Ducks.

lets go powerplay!

Can someone make me a Niedermayer 'Captain Hook' avatar?

it still seems weird to see Matti not in a King uniform.

Penner with 2 grade A scoring chances.

Penner needs to put one of those in. Lame.

Bryz in net.

Penner!

and Turco takes a dive for a penalty.

Another *** dive.

Hartigan has the right to skate through there...he didn't exactly run the goalie.

this should be 4 on 4.

give Turco unsportsmanlike conduct for that dive.

Turco 1-1/2 somersault, pike position.

They're gettin outhit. Let's see some more aggression.

works on his dive at the end of every practice.

C'mon...

Ott running around hitting anyone he can and when challenged by Thornton or May he gets to hide because of the instigator rule.

NHL needs to drop the instigator rule and clean up the game.

0-0 after first.

likes to use the title option in posts

I am still waiting for one...

If the Ducks make it through the 2nd period even... Ducks will win this game.

likes to use the title option in posts

I hadn't noticed.:sarcasm:

Nice GDT by the way.... It's been a couple games since we had a full GDT.... Thanks!!!!

I know Burke brought him in for his locker room leadership but Brad May's days of being a useful nhl player are just about over. He has a couple turnovers tonight already despite being on a lower line.


GP

Brad May has been a huge disappointment.

turnoverturnoverturnover

Stars are controlling this game.

O'Donnell to the box.

I just love when the refs see two guys battling and pick one to go to the box.

:shakehead

Either throw both in the box or let them play, don't pick one of them.

wow bryz putting on a show

Kunitz and Modano....

I can't wait to see this elbowing call...

penalty on Getz

Getzlaf just a little too aggressive...could have been high stick or elbow.

Pronger delay of game...flipped it all the way down over the side glass...

long 5 on 3 for Dallas.

5 on 3 :(

Holy **** Bryz!

nice no blow on the whistle.. no one knew where the puck was
i bet if turco did that the whistle would have been blown

Bryzgalov is on his game.

refs letting Morrow do whatever he wants to the Ducks in front of the net even though his team is on the 5 on 3.

Holy moly that was a kill.

btw
Pahlsson was awesome on the PK
SELANNE!!!!

Give Bryz a Stache'

That was ****ing awesome!

GGGOOOOAaAAAAALLLLL we needed that so bad!

Selanne

1-0

sneaks the wrist shot through.

Woo hoo Selanne!!

And Selanne says "illegal stick what?"

GOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Guess they didn't want to check his stick . . .

That kill definitely swung the momentum in their favor.

OMG
they finally call a penalty

Getz is bleeding..
how did that happen??

I like hugfests.

Turco hugged Teemu

The Shark fans have their own Ducks @ Stars GDT going right now.

It's a pretty entertaining read (esp. when you get to the part where Teemu scores ;) )

If the Ducks make it through the 2nd period even... Ducks will win this game.

They made it through and better!!

*knocks on wood*

Could we possibly be seeing Bryz in net Wednesday or Thursday?

Could we possibly be seeing Bryz in net Wednesday or Thursday?
If he can come out with a win tonight and against CBJ, i would assume so
he has been playing on his head the first 2 periods and i hope he can continue it

The Sharks board has their own Ducks @ Stars GDT going right now.

They also have more viewers than both the Dallas and Anaheim GDTs combined.

Anyone watching the Dallas feed of this game on center ice? Ludwig sounded so depressed talking about the highlights during the 2nd intermission, I think he misses elbowing Teemu in the head like in the good ol days.

GP

If he can come out with a win tonight and against CBJ, i would assume so
he has been playing on his head the first 2 periods and i hope he can continue it

seriously if he plays like this in the playoffs we are unstoppable

Edit: didnt think this needed its own thread but its an interesting read, Edmonton brass releasing more on the Pronger trade

http://www.canada.com/edmontonjournal/story.html?id=92fab5f6-a0e8-43fe-bcb2-43fad1a44471&k=87141

icing on Dallas...28 seconds left.

Oh **** me.

1-1

Dallas throws it towards the net and gets a tip in.

too bad because Bryz played a great game.

have to go win the division championship in OT.

They are reviewing it...I don't think he kicked it in though.

Ah well, at least we eliminate Dallas.

Six seconds away from clinching the Pacific Division altogether.

Dallas actually has no chance at the division now because the Ducks got a point.

Oh man I thought bryz was unbeatable in this one :(

Pronger is a beast.

Why does Carlyle put his shutdown guys out when we have offensive momentum? :banghead:

lame...Shootout will decide a division championship.

Well, since we're going to lose this shootout, I guess we need some help to clinch the division now.

I bet Zubov does a little fake head bobble and tries to go top shelf!

Well, since we're going to lose this shootout, I guess we need some help to clinch the division now.

Only need to get a point from CBJ tomorrow.

Bryz save on Jokinen.

Turco save on McDonald.

Zubov...save Bryz

Bryzgalov's awesome tonight, but it won't matter if no one will score for him...

First six seconds from the Division title, now a post. **** me.

Dam
Getz lost the handle...

Please Selanne!!!!

Getzlaf...lost the puck...

Modano...no goal...

Selanne for a division championship...be a hero Teemu!

post......:(

Nagy...in off Bryz's pad...

Perry for the tie.

GOSH DARNNIT Perry TRY FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!!

Ducks deserved better...

forced to take care of business tomorrow in Columbus.

Game shouldn't have even gone to OT. :shakehead

They can clinch w/ a point tomorrow @ Columbus.

Game shouldn't have even gone to OT. :shakehead

They can clinch w/ a point tomorrow @ Columbus.
Yea
Scott couldn't clear Morrow.. scott was a push over on that goal

good game guys, the ducks are an exciting team to watch

The outcome if this game can't be good for Bryzgalov's confidence at all...which doesn't bode well for the start of the playoffs (assuming he even gets a chance in yet). He must've been cursing up a storm after regulation and after he gave up that single goal in the shootout.

I know Burke brought him in for his locker room leadership but Brad May's days of being a useful nhl player are just about over. He has a couple turnovers tonight already despite being on a lower line.


GP

At least he didnt cost us a 2nd rounder:sarcasm:

Pretty difficult for Hartigan to accomplish anything playing with the 2 duds on the 4th line.

it would only be appropriate for you to get another shootout loss tomorrow to clinch the division. What a freakin joke the point system is.

it would only be appropriate for you to get another shootout loss tomorrow to clinch the division. What a freakin joke the point system is.

sigh :shakehead

it would only be appropriate for you to get another shootout loss tomorrow to clinch the division. What a freakin joke the point system is.

I think you might want to think that statement over!

If not for the "freakin joke" point system, the Sharks would already be division champs. Must be something to win the division and have fewer wins than the second place team huh?

it would only be appropriate for you to get another shootout loss tomorrow to clinch the division. What a freakin joke the point system is.

OK. Let me explain to you why the Ducks deserve to be ahead of you in the standings.

The Ducks are bad at the shootout. No one will disagree with me on that. But because the Ducks have taken more games to the shootout means that they remain in more games than not. They have less regulation losses than your Sharks, meaning that they don't get blown out often or lose by a considerable margin. Their ability to stay in games consistantly is why they are ahead of your team.

OK. Let me explain to you why the Ducks deserve to be ahead of you in the standings.

The Ducks are bad at the shootout. No one will disagree with me on that. But because the Ducks have taken more games to the shootout means that they remain in more games than not. They have less regulation losses than your Sharks, meaning that they don't get blown out often or lose by a considerable margin. Their ability to stay in games consistantly is why they are ahead of your team.


Reach!

The point system is a joke and SJ has poked a hole in the concept.

Crutches anyone?

Cannot ask for more drama...which makes this all fun.

Reach!

The point system is a joke and SJ has poked a hole in the concept.

Crutches anyone?

Cannot ask for more drama...which makes this all fun.

I wasn't talking to you. go away

it would only be appropriate for you to get another shootout loss tomorrow to clinch the division. What a freakin joke the point system is.
Well even if the system is the joke, the point for overtime loss has been there for like 7 seasons now. The shootout loss point is just an extension of that. And changing the points to increase regulation wins to 3 points was shot down by the GMs this year. So it's not changing any time soon.

So maybe it's your team that's a joke for not improving in 7 years so they can take advantage of the loser point. And somewhat of a joke for our team that they can't take advantage of the 2-year-ago implemented shootout.

Gosh DARNIT!
Stay away from our boards Sharks fans if you have nothing to contribute

Ducks are choking away the division. Two straight games, they give up leads.

Last year's team was better. This team is not clutch.

Ducks are choking away the division. Two straight games, they give up leads.

These two games are a perfect example of why I always feel less secure with Bryz in net. Giguere seems much better at, "slamming the door," when given a lead.

Last year's team was better. This team is not clutch.

Last year's team faded down the stretch and lost home ice in the 1st round. At least this year they're giving themselves a chance going into the last game.

I felt bad for Bryzzy. He played so well. Star of the game for the Ducks.

Movin' on to CBUS. :)

OK. Let me explain to you why the Ducks deserve to be ahead of you in the standings.

The Ducks are bad at the shootout. No one will disagree with me on that. But because the Ducks have taken more games to the shootout means that they remain in more games than not. They have less regulation losses than your Sharks, meaning that they don't get blown out often or lose by a considerable margin. Their ability to stay in games consistantly is why they are ahead of your team.

Or maybe it just reflects your teams ability to choke away leads smart guy. :teach:

Or maybe it just reflects your teams ability to choke away leads smart guy. :teach:

that doesnt even make sense

Or maybe it just reflects your teams ability to choke away leads smart guy. :teach:

The Sharks' motto is 'losing in regulation is better than losing in overtime'. That statement pretty much sums up the brains of the bunch.

The Sharks' motto is 'losing in regulation is better than losing in overtime'. That statement pretty much sums up the brains of the bunch.

first of all, i come in peace.

second, i think the main point is that due to the shootout, anaheim is in 1st place. without the shootout, anaheim is in 2nd. that is the main argument some of the sharks fans are trying to make in response to the anaheim announcers and some fans saying how glad they are the playoffs aren't decided by the shootout when the regular season very well could be decided by this way.

first of all, i come in peace.

second, i think the main point is that due to the shootout, anaheim is in 1st place. without the shootout, anaheim is in 2nd. that is the main argument some of the sharks fans are trying to make in response to the anaheim announcers and some fans saying how glad they are the playoffs aren't decided by the shootout when the regular season very well could be decided by this way.

That is a ridiculous statement. You are saying that because Anaheim hasnt lost as many games as the Sharks they should be in 2nd place. What if Anaheim WINS the games in OT? Or are you counting them as the same as regulation losses, which is stupid in itself? You are rewarding a SJ team that has lost more games by more goals because.....why?


I dont understand how this bias works.


This is the situation in a nutshell: Anaheim loses games in a breakaway competion, SJ loses games in regular hockey. You think SJ should benifit. You are wrong.

These two games are a perfect example of why I always feel less secure with Bryz in net. Giguere seems much better at, "slamming the door," when given a lead.

I agree. Tonight's loss wasn't his fault, at all, but it ALWAYS seems to happen to him.


Last year's team faded down the stretch and lost home ice in the 1st round. At least this year they're giving themselves a chance going into the last game.

Whichever. It's happening.

That is a ridiculous statement. You are saying that because Anaheim hasnt lost as many games as the Sharks they should be in 2nd place. What if Anaheim WINS the games in OT? Or are you counting them as the same as regulation losses, which is stupid in itself? You are rewarding a SJ team that has lost more games by more goals because.....why?


I dont understand how this bias works.


This is the situation in a nutshell: Anaheim loses games in a breakaway competion, SJ loses games in regular hockey. You think SJ should benifit. You are wrong.

The Ducks are not ahead of the Sharks because of losing in the shooutout, just two seasons ago, those would all be ties. What has the Ducks ahead of the Sharks are the 2 extra shootout wins the Ducks have than the Sharks. Take the two extra points away from the Sharks, and the 4 extra away from the Ducks for their wins, and this whole division race is finished.

You have more to owe to the shootout than you think.

Ducks are choking away the division. Two straight games, they give up leads.

Last year's team was better. This team is not clutch.

While they've given up leads, that's far from "unclutch". For every time they've done this, they've came back from being down and sent things to a shootout. Also. don't forget how this team lost the last couple games down the stretch(and a chance at 4th place) to fall to 6th. Last year's team was no more clutch than this one. Luckily, and thankfully enough, though, the shootout doesn't exist come playoff time, and this is a pretty good overtime team.

As for Sharks fans thinking their team should be atop the Pacific, let's take a look at the standings, shall we. I see that the Ducks have 108 points, and the Sharks have 106. So, in conclusion, the Ducks are currently atop the Pacific division, and, as long as they either record at least a point tomorrow, or the Sharks don't win, it will remain that way. Is the point system flawed? No, not really. The shoot-out was put in place to make games more exciting, and to give some closure to them(ties suck). The NHL thinks teams should be rewarded for that, and, accordingly, they are.

Also, you can't just go out and say that the Ducks wouldn't be ahead by more. If there wasn't a shoot-out, they'd likely play less conservative in overtime(I've seen them do this quite a bit), and maybe would have an extra overtime win or two. You can't just say they'd only have 104 points without the shootout. You never know what might've happened if all those games under different circumstances.

Also, you can't just go out and say that the Ducks wouldn't be ahead by more. If there wasn't a shoot-out, they'd likely play less conservative in overtime(I've seen them do this quite a bit), and maybe would have an extra overtime win or two. You can't just say they'd only have 104 points without the shootout. You never know what might've happened if all those games under different circumstances.

I assume this portion is in response to my post, if not, I apologize.

The simple fact that there is a shootout to end games is why it sucks. The game is ice hockey, not the shootout league. You said it yourself, the Ducks intentionally play more conservatively 4-on-4, in order to get to the shootout. That right there defeats the purpose of the OT. By making it 4-on-4, it's supposed to open up the game, not encourage teams to play 5 minutes of shut down hockey.

Besides, it can easily be said the Ducks would have 104 points without the shootout wins, those are unspinable numbers. Ducks have 108 pts with 4 shootout wins. Sharks have 106 pts with 2 shootout wins. If we go back two seasons, when each team would get a point after the 5 minute OT period, the teams would be tied with 104 pts. Seems to me there's a bit more that the Ducks have to thank the shootout for than is being admitted.

Fact is though, the point system is what it is, and the Ducks are ahead, but when teams (not just Anaheim, several other teams around the league as well) benefit seemingly unfairly from the addition of the shootout, and the equal point structure for wins in the shootout and losses comparable to OT (real hockey), it looks like a bit of a joke. The Sharks have 51 wins this year, a guaranteed minimum of 3 more wins than the division leading Ducks, that's just not right. The wrong things are being rewarded.

Maybe the Sharks should have beaten Anaheim then instead. If you want to blame a team for being behind, blame your own.

Maybe the Sharks should have beaten Anaheim then instead. If you want to blame a team for being behind, blame your own.

I'm not sure you're reading my post, because I'm not blaming anyone. I'm simply responding to the statement that the shootout has not helped the Ducks attain a higher spot in the division. Call me a traditionalist, but it seems a bit counter-intuitive that an overtime LOSS could clinch the Ducks their first division.

I assume this portion is in response to my post, if not, I apologize.

The simple fact that there is a shootout to end games is why it sucks. The game is ice hockey, not the shootout league. You said it yourself, the Ducks intentionally play more conservatively 4-on-4, in order to get to the shootout. That right there defeats the purpose of the OT. By making it 4-on-4, it's supposed to open up the game, not encourage teams to play 5 minutes of shut down hockey.

Besides, it can easily be said the Ducks would have 104 points without the shootout wins, those are unspinable numbers. Ducks have 108 pts with 4 shootout wins. Sharks have 106 pts with 2 shootout wins. If we go back two seasons, when each team would get a point after the 5 minute OT period, the teams would be tied with 104 pts. Seems to me there's a bit more that the Ducks have to thank the shootout for than is being admitted.

Fact is though, the point system is what it is, and the Ducks are ahead, but when teams (not just Anaheim, several other teams around the league as well) benefit seemingly unfairly from the addition of the shootout, and the equal point structure for wins in the shootout and losses comparable to OT (real hockey), it looks like a bit of a joke. The Sharks have 51 wins this year, a guaranteed minimum of 3 more wins than the division leading Ducks, that's just not right. The wrong things are being rewarded.


Dustin Penner cares little for your distress.

Just lock it... it's a lost cause. ***, one SJ/Anaheim argument ends, another ensues. And on a Ducks/Stars GDT!!! Take this to the Lounge or something. Ugh.

Dustin Penner cares little for your distress.

A quacking player on the Ducks, what a fit. I don't have screen capture of it, but Mr. Quacker there was shown (at least on the Dallas broadcast) as having his head buried in his hands as the shootout approached.



See, I can make totally unrelated pointless jabs too. It's a fun way to argue, if you're 10.








Oh, and by the way, Pronger eats babies, that's why he was traded from Edmonton. They couldn't have him eating all of their future fan base. Get him out while you still can.

Just lock it... it's a lost cause. ***, one SJ/Anaheim argument ends, another ensues. And on a Ducks/Stars GDT!!! Take this to the Lounge or something. Ugh.
No kidding. Morons multiply exponentially at playoff time in San Jose.

It's a fun way to argue, if you're 10.

Wouldn't know. I wasn't arguing.

A quacking player on the Ducks, what a fit. I don't have screen capture of it, but Mr. Quacker there was shown (at least on the Dallas broadcast) as having his head buried in his hands as the shootout approached.



See, I can make totally unrelated pointless jabs too. It's a fun way to argue, if you're 10.








Oh, and by the way, Pronger eats babies, that's why he was traded from Edmonton. They couldn't have him eating all of their future fan base. Get him out while you still can.


typical Bay area elitist attitiude

typical Bay area elitist attitiude

Ouch? Little bit of sarcasm and the mood turns sour?

Personally, I am embarassed at all the Sharks trolls who have come over and said unnecessarily sour things to you guys. I've been a Sharks fan since they entered the league, and I'm proud of the knowledgeable group that fills our building each game, so yes, maybe I'm a bit elitist in the respect that I take offense to being compared to know nothing fans, which, unfortunately, around playoff time, come out of the woodwork everywhere, San Jose included.

Please don't confuse my antics as trying to troll you guys, I'm a guest to your boards and would like to be accepted here. A couple weeks ago, the Ducks seemingly had the division wrapped up, and now it's coming down to the final weekend of the season, so a few of us are a bit overexuberant.

Good luck to you, and may we put California on the forefront of the hockey map in about 5 weeks when we produce one of the best WCF's in league history.

I hated the shootout to begin with, I hate it more because my team sucks at it.

This was a tough game to lose we had chances to put it away, we played a textbook 3rd period, Dallas just got a lucky bounce. How come we never use Scott Niedermayer in the shootout? Andy sucks at them.

Tomorrow will be tough without Giguere and Bryz going b2b, I only see a few players at the top of their games for us right now, our top 2 lines need to be alot better

tivo'd the game and after the game was tied i just fast forwarded to the end. that game was gay. "look what happens when we try to play defense for a whole period"... Bryz was SOOO good until 6 seconds left. :help: :shakehead

The Western Conference standings under the "old" rules (two points for a win, one point for a tie, no shootouts):

1. Detroit: 47-24-10, 104
2. San Jose: 49-28-4, 102
3. Vancouver: 43-28-9, 95
4. Anaheim: 43-24-14, 100
5. Nashville: 44-26-11, 99
6. Dallas: 40-28-13, 93
7. Minnesota: 37-27-17, 91
8. Calgary: 40-32-88, 88
9. Colorado: 38-33-9, 85

The real impact these rule changes have had is in the East. Under the old system, Carolina would be leading the Southeast.

As far as the Ducks clutchitude, we were all bemoaning their collapse down the stretch last year, when it meant the difference between facing Calgary vs. a Vokoun-less Nashville.

It really doesn't matter, as long as we're in, healthy and well-rested. A division title would be a nice banner to hang up there, but that's all it is at this point.

And, of course, the #2 seed is the kiss of death. It's lost to the #7 seed more often than not since the current playoff format started. And Minnesota does look frisky.

And, of course, the #2 seed is the kiss of death. It's lost to the #7 seed more often than not since the current playoff format started. And Minnesota does look frisky.

Yeah I remember hearing about that there was a record number of seasons where the number 2 team from at least one conference kept gettin the boot from the first round by a number 7 seed

:doh:

Is someone else going to start a new GDT or should I?

Is someone else going to start a new GDT or should I?

I'm makin' one right now. :_)

For anyone else, you should check out The Road to the Pacific (http://anaheimducks.com/press/release/topstory.php?dir=200604&id=1673). It is really interesting with pictures and sound bites.
http://anaheimducks.com/images/200704/2002.f.jpg

ok we got another big game today.

locked.