Offseason moves?

so far as i can see it your team looks really well endowed in all three zones. but if you had to have some movement who would u trade for and with. and where do you guys ur greatest weakness and strengh lies in your team?

Are you hitting on us? We have a girlfriend, and I don't know that she would appreciate you talking about how well endowed we are. Let's keep this on the down-low, yeah?

so far as i can see it your team looks really well endowed in all three zones. but if you had to have some movement who would u trade for and with. and where do you guys ur greatest weakness and strengh lies in your team?
Everything depends on Giguere and to a lesser extent Selanne. If Giguere leaves I think Bryz gets the nod as starter and we bring in a Chris Mason to compete with him(I think he's a UFA). Also I would expect an upgrade on D if Giguere leaves. Nobody really knows if Selanne will keep playing.

Thing is I think we are limited in what can be traded especially out of our youth...Penner/Perry/Ryan/Getzlaf/Mitera are probably safe along with Beauchemin who is 26/27

I'm sure Burke will consider trading that first rounder if the deal is right, depending on where TB finishes.

trade #25 and #27 :sarcasm:

Obviously, penner/perry/getzalf/etc will not be going anywhere.

It'd be interresting to see a scenerio where Giguere falters in the playoffs, Byrz comes in and the duck's ride him deep into the playoffs.

Giguere is not resigned, Selanne retires, and the ducks all of a sudden have a bit of cap room to play with.

Obviously though, I want Selanne to play, and the ducks to resigen (then trade) Giguere :)

I hope we resign Giguere for a decent price (hometown discount). I think Teemu may retire if we win the Cup; if not he'll be back for another year. :handclap:

I hope we resign Giguere for a decent price (hometown discount). I think Teemu may retire if we win the Cup; if not he'll be back for another year. :handclap:

What makes the impression that Selanne might retire after the year? Is there any quote/source that mentions that. I know he might be old, but it did not stop players like Yzerman, Andreychuk, Roberts from the upper 30s.

I hope we resign Giguere for a decent price (hometown discount). I think Teemu may retire if we win the Cup; if not he'll be back for another year. :handclap:

With the way he has been playing, I'm not so sure he'd hang em up right after a Cup. He's showing absolutely zero sign that he's getting too old to play this game much longer. Plus, with another 3 or 4 years of Prongermayer and the kids, there shouldn't be any rough playoffless seasons anytime soon. Basically, I would think it would take a decline in his level of play or decline in his team's level of play before he'd truly consider retiring. But, he could have different motivations that say he wants his one Cup and then retire on top.

With the way he has been playing, I'm not so sure he'd hang em up right after a Cup. He's showing absolutely zero sign that he's getting too old to play this game much longer. Plus, with another 3 or 4 years of Prongermayer and the kids, there shouldn't be any rough playoffless seasons anytime soon. Basically, I would think it would take a decline in his level of play or decline in his team's level of play before he'd truly consider retiring. But, he could have different motivations that say he wants his one Cup and then retire on top.

I fear that the price to keep Teemu will keep going up. If Jiggy doesn't re-sign it won't be a problem but if he does... I think Burke can afford Teemu for one more year because after next year Getzlaf and Perry will need new contracts. But I think Teemu can keep playing in this league for a few more years at least. I mean, he's done even better this year than he did last year.

I can't look into the mind/heart of Teemu, but I'll give you my guesses. He seems permanently situated in OC and I think he will retire here with his family in his current house, which allows him to keep his car collection in place, etc. I think he will finish his career with the Ducks; his doubtless will be the first jersey hoisted to the rafters in Honda Center. He is the franchise player the Ducks have always wanted, and has enough good years here to be considered primarily a Duck.

Given all that, he will be here next year if he wants to. He hasn't been financially demanding in either of the last two years, based on the previous year's achievements.

What are the odds that the Ducks keep Giguere and deal Bryzgalov? I'd love for him to end up in Phoenix, but I doubt Burke would. :)

What are the odds that the Ducks keep Giguere and deal Bryzgalov? I'd love for him to end up in Phoenix, but I doubt Burke would. :)
Bryzgalov is a great guy, and I would hate to see him go but I wouldn't doubt it's possible. That being said, it would probably be hard to get a back-up goalie of Byz's calibur for the price.

but... It would be nice to have one more reason to Boo Phoenix whenever you come into town!;)

Bryzgalov is a great guy, and I would hate to see him go but I wouldn't doubt it's possible. That being said, it would probably be hard to get a back-up goalie of Byz's calibur for the price.

but... It would be nice to have one more reason to Boo Phoenix whenever you come into town!;)

I think if Jiggy resigns then Bryz will definitely be traded next year, now whether it's in the offseason or deadline I do not know. I would guess the deadline.

Are you hitting on us? We have a girlfriend, and I don't know that she would appreciate you talking about how well endowed we are. Let's keep this on the down-low, yeah?

lol dont you have a sick mind. lets keep it to hockey eh..get ur mind out of the gutter

Can I clear one thing up that was aluded (wow sp?) to earlier:

Teemu plays w/ the Ducks or no one. He loves So Cali for so many reasons.

If the Ducks do win the cup there is always the possability he retires, but he hasn't shown me any signs that he isn't willing to go 5 more seasons.

I think if Jiggy resigns then Bryz will definitely be traded next year, now whether it's in the offseason or deadline I do not know. I would guess the deadline.

How would Dallas' 1st and David LeNeveu for Ilya Bryzgalov sound from Phoenix? Maybe Burke can package up the Tampa and Dallas picks to move up and grab some one like a Sam Gagner, or a kid of his calibre.

How would Dallas' 1st and David LeNeveu for Ilya Bryzgalov sound from Phoenix? Maybe Burke can package up the Tampa and Dallas picks to move up and grab some one like a Sam Gagner, or a kid of his calibre.

do we have Dallas's first round pick?

do we have Dallas's first round pick?

He is offering Dallas's first and the goalie for Bryz.

Of course picks aren't a bad thing, but seeing as how 'prime' the duck's roster is to contend the next couple seasons, and the maturing youngsters on the squad right now, I doubt burke is going to look for anything other than non-rental NHL'ers... just like he said at the trade deadline.

Dealing away bryz puts the duck's stanley cup hopes for next year solely on the shoulders of Giguere (if he resigns). Will he be effective next year and healthy?

The duck's don't need anything bad enough right now that they need to deal away depth for 1st round picks. Quite the opposite, I would more likely see Burke package Bryz + our first rounder for a solid forward or defenseman.... but again, doing so means we're down to only one option in net on a team that will definitelly be in the playoffs and contending for the cup next year.

How about Manny Fernandez for um someone...

The duck's don't need anything bad enough right now that they need to deal away depth for 1st round picks. Quite the opposite, I would more likely see Burke package Bryz + our first rounder for a solid forward or defenseman.... but again, doing so means we're down to only one option in net on a team that will definitelly be in the playoffs and contending for the cup next year.


Perhaps a deal where by Derek Morris becomes a Duck and Bryzgalov and Todd Marchant(for salary cap reasons) become Coyotes? The deal could be expanded to a certain extent, but that would be the base. The money would be even, and Morris has two years left on his contract.

DMo has struggled offensively this season, but so has every single other Coyotes defenseman, as well. He's a great passer, he's good on the power-play, and he's always a physical presence. Both Wayne Gretzky and Mike Barnett have spoken multiple times about what a good presence he is in the dressing room, and that he's been a good mentor for the younger players.

I think if Bryzgalov is dealt it will be for something different than a defensemen. If, however, it is for a dman, I dont think Morris is him.

If, however, it is for a dman, I dont think Morris is him.

Why is that?

I will be pleasantly surprised if the Ducks are able to re-sign Jiggy. He is going to get some huge offers on the free agent market, that the team probably won't be able to match. Which is fine, you only have so many years in the league, so go get that cheddar while you can.

I can't think who might be available and desirable to replace him.

Why is that?

He makes 4 million a year.

Our primary need is another scoring wing and all I read is goalie and d-men talks? Wow.

Selanne won't score 90 points forever, guys.

Selanne won't score 90 points forever, guys.

Blasphemy!

He makes 4 million a year.

Marchant's cap hit is something like 2.9 million a year, Bryzgalov's is around 1.2, and I believe Morris' is 3.9. Even money, pretty much.

hey guys habs fan here...do u think the ducks will re-sign teemu during this offseason??
thx !

Our primary need is another scoring wing and all I read is goalie and d-men talks? Wow.

Selanne won't score 90 points forever, guys.

Well, Getz and Perry won't score 50 forever either ;)

But yes, a scoring winger should be high on Burke's acquisitions list. If he wants to add a defenseman in the offseason, how about Ryan and Tampa's first for Shane O'Brien?:sarcasm:

Burke will only look for a scorer if Teemu doesn't re-sign. Kunie, Mac, Getz and Perry are all under contract for next year and only Penner is a RFA. In fact, Teemu is the forward of consequence that will be a UFA and most agree he probably won't go anywhere if he doesn't retire.


But 4 UFA d-men is the most pressing issure. OD, DiPenta, Huskins and Jackman are all UFA's. Huskins and DiPenta will probably get re-signed but I'm pretty sure OD is gone unless he takes a paycut. I love the way OD has played this year but he'll probably be a step slower next year and we need a bonafide top-4 d-man. I like Huskins, especially lately but I shutter to think he may step into that role. We also don't have any rookies that can step into that role either so my bet is Burke throws some money at a UFA d-man in the 1.5-2 mil range.

Marchant's cap hit is something like 2.9 million a year, Bryzgalov's is around 1.2, and I believe Morris' is 3.9. Even money, pretty much.

I dont value Derek Morris at 4 million a year for two years over one year of Marchant and Bryzgalov. The trade doesnt help enough, and the need isnt enough to make it.

With Pronger, Niedermayer, Beauchemin, and Getzlaf at our PP points, I think the defensive help we'd be looking for would be more the stay at home type defenseman. Of course someone with offensive skills is nice, but the salary would obviously be greater. My impression of Morris is he's more of a good offensive guy with decent defense but with lapses.

Boynton seems more like the kind of defenseman we'd like, but he'd probably cost much more. I'd think we'd also want an NHL-caliber backup goalie with some experience, which I'm not sure Phoenix has, although need that could be addressed through free agency afterwards.

Getting Lupul back would be nice

Getting Lupul back would be nice

You mean after scoring roughly the same amount of points as our top defensive center? Noooo thanks.

Well not based on his stats this year obviously

Well not based on his stats this year obviously

Based on what? While he was here, all I read about him was that he was a floater...

Based on what? While he was here, all I read about him was that he was a floater...

A floater that scored 28 goals.

A floater that scored 28 goals.

With a team-worst -13, next was Rob Nieds with -5. I see that he's a sniper, but his defensive game is :rant: Btw, he's a -26 this season, worst on his team again...

A floater that scored 28 goals.

While playing zero defense and picking up stupid penalties.

Since he wants out from FLA, I would love to grap Horton but the price could be too high.

Getting Lupul back would be nice

Kunitz is far better than Lupul in terms of all around game. Put me on the hell-no list.

Since he wants out from FLA, I would love to grap Horton but the price could be too high.

I would love to have Nathan Horton too.

I would love to have Nathan Horton too.

I wonder how much it would take to pry Horton away from the Panthers. Possibly Bryz, 1st and Shannon?

I wonder how much it would take to pry Horton away from the Panthers. Possibly Bryz, 1st and Shannon?

Bryz and a 1st is probably too much.
I like Horton but he never teared up the scoresheet and has also a history of injuries.
I think with the right supporting cast he could blossom though, and that's why I would like to see him in Anaheim.

found this...what a coincidence...

Is Joffrey Lupul a couple of bad games away from going down as the absolute worst defensive player in the entire National Hockey League? If you go by the minus total that's followed him around like a two-headed monster, Lupul is, statistically, one of the game's biggest liabilities. Of all 852 players who've suited up in the NHL this season, his minus-26 ranks 847th. -- Edmonton Sun

What about Ryan Shannon? I know he's small but he's got sick skills and good speed, do you think he could play on Anaheim's top 2 lines next season? Or maybe they'll us on the third with two defensive players?

Do you think Shannon has a future has an offensive player in Anaheim, or anywhere else? How many pts do you see him getting next year?

What about Ryan Shannon? I know he's small but he's got sick skills and good speed, do you think he could play on Anaheim's top 2 lines next season? Or maybe they'll us on the third with two defensive players?

Do you think Shannon has a future has an offensive player in Anaheim, or anywhere else? How many pts do you see him getting next year?

He needs to get stronger. He does have great speed and great hands but he is absolutely ineffective in the corners and never, NEVER takes the puck to the net. He many creates scoring chances if he does a quick pivot to get around a guy.

That and our top-6 is already lock for next year staying as is. Same for our third line. He might be a permanent fixture on the fourth line next year if he gets stronger and can contribute more. But he's got one more year to prove he's legit because Bobby Ryan will definitely be a regular by 08-09.

He needs to get stronger. He does have great speed and great hands but he is absolutely ineffective in the corners and never, NEVER takes the puck to the net. He many creates scoring chances if he does a quick pivot to get around a guy.

I've never seen Shannon do a single thing in the NHL that made think he had great hands.

I've never seen Shannon do a single thing in the NHL that made think he had great hands.

shootout attempts?

Lupul's really not been good this season it seems. Though looking at his numbers the other day, he's got a 9.5% in every season for his shooting percentage so all he needs to do is shoot more as he seems consistent on the amount of shots that go in... Heh, makes the Pronger deal better if he keeps sucking like this.

Shannon's hand seem decent. Not great, but good. But he loses the puck easily, both with body contact and with stickwork. If he works on that, strength, and getting into dirty areas he could be a good 2nd liner. And he does hustle. But he's pretty much useless to our playoff run now.

As for Lupul, for a laugh I like to look at the Edmonton board every once in awhile. They got a pretty good thread on him now.

As in interesting aside, who do you guys consider was the main piece of the Pronger trade? I think from Edmonton's side it was Lupul, being a hometown boy, but from our GM's view I bet more of the value was in Smid. I just think he'll be better when all is said and done. Although maybe they were equally important pieces...

Shannon's hand seem decent. Not great, but good.

"Decent" and "good" I can agree with. I don't think his are bad... just not great.

As in interesting aside, who do you guys consider was the main piece of the Pronger trade? I think from Edmonton's side it was Lupul, being a hometown boy, but from our GM's view I bet more of the value was in Smid.

I'll put it these terms: I was happy Lupul was part of the trade and I was pretty disappointed about Smid.

As for Lupul, for a laugh I like to look at the Edmonton board every once in awhile. They got a pretty good thread on him now.
Some of the quotes from that thread...(I've bolded some of the more descriptive words/phrases they used to sum up his season):

"Worst. Oiler. Ever."

"It takes a special kind of player to make me wish we still had Anson Carter, but damn if Joffrey isn't just that special. If useless was a mountain, he'd be the summit."

"Joffrey Lupul...Edmonton's version of Typhoid Mary."

"Lupul's season was an unmitigated catastrophe. A more disastrous season I could not have imagined for him. He's gotten steadily worse as the season wore on. He came out of the gates slowly but managed a half-decent output for the first quarter of the season. Around December, Lupul's game went A.W.O.L. and it's been a train wreck watching him muddle through the last four months. Lupul is so far behind where he was a year ago, he'll probably need another season (where he'll actually have to give a crap) to become a player worthy of taking a regular NHL shift, nevermind an offensive threat. That is light years away yet.

Right now, he's a timid, slow, lazy, disinterested, defensively bankrupt mess that doesn't bring a single redeeming hockey quality to the team.

As has been said dozens of times, players who don't produce should and usually do find another way to contribute. Lupul is a blackhole of everything useful. He makes every player on his line worse.

The worst part is we are stuck with him. And the only way it changes is if he decides to have a massive attitude change. Too much damage has been done to him as a player for us to expect anything substantial from Lupul for at least two seasons."

"Waste of space and after this year, anybody who thinks he is just going to turn it around needs to get their head out of their ass. He is that bad, beyond rebounding from this.
...
He can't even be moved to a checking role because he is even worse defensively than offensively!! Brian Burke is the best GM in the league and obviously saw the flaws. He wasn't parting with the other guys Lowe wanted."

" sure took advantage of KLowe. [B]Anytime you can trade one of the worst players in the league for one of the best players in the league your doing something right."

"Joffrey Lupul is a ****** hockey player who looks as though he's been recently castrated. His only redeeming quality is a good shot; but he can't think the game worth two *****, so he doesn't have a bloody clue how to utilize it."

Ouch!

Some of the quotes from that thread...(I've bolded some of the more descriptive words/phrases they used to sum up his season):



Ouch!

Wow... that's a lot of hate right there.

Haha, like I said.. it's worth a good laugh or two. I'm sure they don't really mean that and it's just a little bitterness... but it's certainly fun to read.

Some of the quotes from that thread...(I've bolded some of the more descriptive words/phrases they used to sum up his season):



Ouch!

THAT TRADE RUINED LUPUL. he knew he didnt want to go back home, because hed be under a microscope. He loved the lifestyle, now hes back to the same old places, the same old people. its not a putdown to edmonton, hes just a kid and wanted to live the good life. its too bad a move back home stunted him so badly.

Pronger: 13G + 46A = 59P, +28
Lupul+Smid: 18G + 19A = 37P, -42

Edmonton better draft well with our picks, otherwise this is a massive landslide in favor of Burke.

THAT TRADE RUINED LUPUL. he knew he didnt want to go back home, because hed be under a microscope. He loved the lifestyle, now hes back to the same old places, the same old people. its not a putdown to edmonton, hes just a kid and wanted to live the good life. its too bad a move back home stunted him so badly.

So lets bring him back?

I wouldn't mind seeing Paul Kariya back with the Ducks. He can provide playmaking abilities from the LW and also he is 7 out of 11 in shootouts this year.

http://jeays.net/shootout/shooters.htm

10 shootout loses is a tough pill to swallow if it decides home ice advantage.

Since he wants out from FLA, I would love to grap Horton but the price could be too high.

Speaking of...What's the price for Giggy:teach: . I assume he's UFA. this summer.

p.s. The cuz' would play much better with a return to Ana.

Lupul wasn't happy to go back there, especially after kind of growing with the team here. His play shows it. It sucks to see a guy with such talent play like he has there. It's more or less proof that he's not going to be the amazing player I thought he'd turn out to be... Even if he's unhappy, he should be playing better.

He miss the Ducks power players :naughty:

You might be intrested of bringing your old pick Janne Pesonen to Anaheim next season. I know this has been discussed here before and it could be a long shot, although theres no good reason couldnt he put up great numbers there too(Finnish league this year 22g+33a while being +22). He has great speed, very good hands, and always makes defensemen to sweat when he has the puck by challenging them good. You could get him cheap, he has a decent shot even for 2nd line scoring winger on his first season, potential even for more, and you could basically put him to minors if it turns out to be too much for him..

I dont value Derek Morris at 4 million a year for two years over one year of Marchant and Bryzgalov. The trade doesnt help enough, and the need isnt enough to make it.

I know you guys are focused on the playoffs (:p: ) and not to beat a dead horse (I just want Bryz), what if the deal were Dallas' 1st, David LeNeveu, and Dave Scatchard for Ilya Bryzgalov, Drew Miller, and Todd Marchant?

LeNeveu put of amazing numbers in college, and has been very good on one of the worst AHL teams over the last few years. He's only 23 and it seems like backing up Giguere would be a good way for him to learn in the NHL. He really does have a ton of potential, it's just that for some reason or another he and Wayne Gretzky don't seem to gel.

Scatchard had a rough year, but has shown a yo-yo trend in the past. He's due next season. Last season he was a beast for Phoenix. A real shut-down force. His size and nastiness make him seem like a Burke kind of guy to me.

I make this proposal based on the assumption that Ducks fans don't want Todd Marchant, don't think they can keep both Giggy and Bryz, and feel that a 1st rounder is relatively fair value for Bryz. If I'm wrong about any of these, I'll surely look foolish. If so, please forgive my ignorance.

I know you guys are focused on the playoffs (:p: ) and not to beat a dead horse (I just want Bryz), what if the deal were Dallas' 1st, David LeNeveu, and Dave Scatchard for Ilya Bryzgalov, Drew Miller, and Todd Marchant?



The problem is the Ducks get rid of a bad contract (Marchant) just to add another one (Scatchard).

I know you guys are focused on the playoffs (:p: ) and not to beat a dead horse (I just want Bryz), what if the deal were Dallas' 1st, David LeNeveu, and Dave Scatchard for Ilya Bryzgalov, Drew Miller, and Todd Marchant?

LeNeveu put of amazing numbers in college, and has been very good on one of the worst AHL teams over the last few years. He's only 23 and it seems like backing up Giguere would be a good way for him to learn in the NHL. He really does have a ton of potential, it's just that for some reason or another he and Wayne Gretzky don't seem to gel.

Scatchard had a rough year, but has shown a yo-yo trend in the past. He's due next season. Last season he was a beast for Phoenix. A real shut-down force. His size and nastiness make him seem like a Burke kind of guy to me.

I make this proposal based on the assumption that Ducks fans don't want Todd Marchant, don't think they can keep both Giggy and Bryz, and feel that a 1st rounder is relatively fair value for Bryz. If I'm wrong about any of these, I'll surely look foolish. If so, please forgive my ignorance.

Nothing is wrong with Marchant except for his contract. I'm hoping he would come back for less, but he really doesn't fit on the 4th line either. Hard to say what the best decision is for Marchant.

I'll put it these terms: I was happy Lupul was part of the trade and I was pretty disappointed about Smid.

The trade looks increasingly lopsided in our favor as time passes. Of course, if we don't win a Cup with Pronger, he gets seriously injured or Smid, Lupul or the #1 pick this year becomes a star, then maybe I'm wrong. But it's hard to see Lowe making that deal without Smid.

Offcourse Paul Kariya would be a exciting choice, but I think a player like Ville Peltonen could finally show off his high standard in a ducks uniform. He's a great offensive player that does well on the penalty kill aswell. If we want to get rid of Marchant, maybe Ville could provide some defensive skills aswell as some speed up front.

His contract is only 795.000 which is a very small amount for a player of his caliber. I believe he would be relatively cheap, since he's only contracted over the next season.

I heard people talking about him leaving Florida after the "boys night out" with Eddie the smurf... Which would be cool, so we can grab him. I love him personally, but what do you think?

Offcourse Paul Kariya would be a exciting choice, but I think a player like Ville Peltonen could finally show off his high standard in a ducks uniform. He's a great offensive player that does well on the penalty kill aswell. If we want to get rid of Marchant, maybe Ville could provide some defensive skills aswell as some speed up front.

His contract is only 795.000 which is a very small amount for a player of his caliber. I believe he would be relatively cheap, since he's only contracted over the next season.

I heard people talking about him leaving Florida after the "boys night out" with Eddie the smurf... Which would be cool, so we can grab him. I love him personally, but what do you think?


We'll take Giggy & larger contract you cannot afford in return:D

The problem is the Ducks get rid of a bad contract (Marchant) just to add another one (Scatchard).

What if I took Scatchard out of the deal?

To ANA:
DAL '07 1st
David LeNeveu

To PHX:
Ilya Bryzgalov
Todd Marchant

The deal buys you guys alot of salary space. I know that's valuable to contenders. That first rounder, combined with Tampa's, could move you up pretty high and get you a pretty darn good prospect. Also, I'm sure there will be some teams at the draft that are willing to move a scorer for a first rounder or two.

I'd happily include Kevyn Adams too, if you'd like him.(I'm a bigger fan of both Tjarnqvist and Gratton)

The deal buys you guys alot of salary space. I know that's valuable to contenders.

A guy that really steps in the playoffs like Marchant is pretty valuable too. He'd be making a huge difference in the faceoff circle right now and having a second defenively sound center to match up against a team like the Sharks... again huge.

All I'm trying to say is "cap space" doesn't win you games and if that's the ONLY reason for moving Marchant, I'll keep him. Of course if they need that space to keep Giguere that's a different story. But I can't see that as likely since Giguere already makes 4 million and isn't look at an enourmous raise. The extra million or so they'd need comes from trading Bryzgalov for the most part, assuming they don't take much salary back in return.

LeNeveu? If I'm the Ducks he's not a guy I target to get back in a deal and that has nothing to do with him as a player. The way I see it is you lock up Giguere for 3-4 years as the starter. Get a journeyman vet to play the content backup. Then concentrate on developing JP Levasseur and David McKee.

What I'd really want back from a Bryzgalov trade is a blue chip left wing prospect. Or maybe a center. The system is very much lacking at those posistions.

After watching Kariya this playoff and seeing how unwilling he is to help his team win, I'll say no to him. Unless he's willing to play for 1.1 million... you know, to play on a contender.

Give Jiggy whatever he wants. BTW, how much does the cap increase?. I hate to say it, but I'd gladly get rid of Marchant and give Jiggy a 2.5 mil (or higher with the extra cap space). problem is, how do we part with Marcant

BTW, this sucks too, becasue I love Marchant!

... if that's the ONLY reason for moving Marchant, I'll keep him.

Keep him, then. I only offered to take him as a favor.

LeNeveu? If I'm the Ducks he's not a guy I target to get back in a deal and that has nothing to do with him as a player. The way I see it is you lock up Giguere for 3-4 years as the starter. Get a journeyman vet to play the content backup. Then concentrate on developing JP Levasseur and David McKee.

I offered Lenny because I thought Anaheim would be a good place for him to get his second chance. You've got a great defense, and a good guy to learn from in Giggy. It was just a couple of seasons ago that Lenny was our #1 prospect, and touted as our future in goal. He was given his first shot early in the year to grab the bull by the horns in the NHL. He did a decent job, but didn't blow anyone away. This, apparently, wasn't good enough for Wayne Gretzky who blasted him in the media, traded for a replacement and sent him down to the minors for the rest of the season. The majority of Coyotes fans were shocked by this as we all thought Lenny did a pretty good job for a rookie just getting his feet wet, and we were all still really high on him. Goalies take longer to develop, afterall. I guess no one told Wayne that. Anyway, it's clear that Lenny is going to get a fair shake here, but that doesn't mean he's not still a great goaltending prospect. I imagine he still has decent value, as he still has ton of potential.

What I'd really want back from a Bryzgalov trade is a blue chip left wing prospect. Or maybe a center. The system is very much lacking at those posistions.

I don't know if you can get a blue chip prospect for Bryzgalov. Biron only got a second round pick. I know Bryz is better than Biron, but the deadline is when you usually get maximum value for a player. I'd say a first round pick is pretty fair for Bryz. You can certainly draft your LW or C prospect there. You could also package the two firsts, and move up to get your LW or C.

problem is, how do we part with Marcant

To ANA:
DAL '07 1st
David LeNeveu

To PHX:
Ilya Bryzgalov
Todd Marchant


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He means, how do we replace a key PKer, face-off specialist, checking forward and playoff contributor? Marchant's contract might be a little bloated but he is an awesome player. If we make it to the conference finals, we DESPERATELY need him back.

But all this is moot because I don't think Bryz will ever get traded because I don't know if Burke will be able to re-sign Jiggy. I think JS is geared up for a great run here and he'll be the most sought after goalie on the market and I really think some team will break the bank to get him.

I offered Lenny because I thought Anaheim would be a good place for him to get his second chance.

And I just don't see it as a good fit. How poorly Gretzky handled LeNeveu doesn't change that.

I don't know if you can get a blue chip prospect for Bryzgalov.

You act like LeNeveu is one and that's what you're offering, plus a first.

You can certainly draft your LW or C prospect there. You could also package the two firsts, and move up to get your LW or C.

That's fine if I want a player 4 years away from the NHL. But if I want one just a year or two away I've got to trade for one.

And I just don't see it as a good fit. How poorly Gretzky handled LeNeveu doesn't change that.



You act like LeNeveu is one and that's what you're offering, plus a first.



That's fine if I want a player 4 years away from the NHL. But if I want one just a year or two away I've got to trade for one.

Fair enough.

I certainly do not consider LeNeveu a "blue chip" prospect. He's a throw in. I'd still take him over JP or McKee, though. Lenny is ready.

If you think that your backup is going to get you a blue chip forward prospect you are in for a rude awekening. I don't want to take away from Bryzgalov (I obviously think highley of him) but take a look at what second string goalies have returned in trade over the last 4 or 5 years. The best you will probably find is Brian Boucher for Michal Handzus. What you've got to realize about that trade is how highly thought of Boucher was at the time, and how much Handzus was pouting and begging for a trade.

He means, how do we replace a key PKer, face-off specialist, checking forward and playoff contributor? Marchant's contract might be a little bloated but he is an awesome player. If we make it to the conference finals, we DESPERATELY need him back.

Keep him. I don't really want him, anyway.

But all this is moot because I don't think Bryz will ever get traded because I don't know if Burke will be able to re-sign Jiggy. I think JS is geared up for a great run here and he'll be the most sought after goalie on the market and I really think some team will break the bank to get him.

You are Stanley Cup Contenders, you aren't going to let one of the best goalies in the business just walk away.

I would like too see Pahlsson in an Oiler's jersey? Shouldn't one of Pahlsson or Marchant be on the trading block this summer, they both are checking line centers. It would make more senses to trade Marchant because of his salary. What to Duck fans think?

I would like too see Pahlsson in an Oiler's jersey? Shouldn't one of Pahlsson or Marchant be on the trading block this summer, they both are checking line centers. It would make more senses to trade Marchant because of his salary. What to Duck fans think?
err. No.

You fail in not knowing that Påhlsson = God and that Marchant is a great play-off player. No need to trade them any time soon. You need more than three centres, no point getting rid of one.

You are Stanley Cup Contenders, you aren't going to let one of the best goalies in the business just walk away.

It's still a business and if we win the Cup and Jiggy is a big reason, he'll get 6-7 mil on the open market. The Samueli's won't pay that, especially since the organization is still very high on Bryzgalov. He'll also want a long-term deal which will also make it hard to sign him because Getzlaf, Perry and Kunitz will need new contracts after next season. Not to mention Pronger and Niedermayer are already until contract for a lot of money for a number of years after this one.

That and if Jiggy wants to go, he'll go. He is a new father and doesn't plan on retiring in Cali (as far as I know) and this is his last chance to get a huge, long-term deal. Quite frankly, the only way JS stays is if he really wants to stay here.

Then again, does Giguere want to bolt from a great team which has treated him extremely well, especially now given his family situation?

Great climate, supporting teammates & organisation (especially Samuelis who were there for him and his family during the crisis with their baby) and most likely a long-term ~5M/y deal Ducks can afford to give him.

If Jiggy really wants to go to a new team simply he gets 1-2M/y more, I really question his motives.

Is there any team that can offer him more (salary excluded)?

Then again, does Giguere want to bolt from a great team which has treated him extremely well, especially now given his family situation?

Great climate, supporting teammates & organisation (especially Samuelis who were there for him and his family during the crisis with their baby) and most likely a long-term ~5M/y deal Ducks can afford to give him.

If Jiggy really wants to go to a new team simply he gets 1-2M/y more, I really question his motives.

Is there any team that can offer him more (salary excluded)?
Maybe he might want to raise his kid back home in Canada?

Maybe he might want to raise his kid back home in Canada?

Even if he signs a 5y deal, his kid won't be even 6y old when he finishes that contract. So when the kid is old enough to go to school, he can do that. Plenty of time to raise his kid in Canada if he wants that. Until then, I really doubt he wants his wife and baby to go through a hassle like swapping teams.

Anyone know if Jiggy's wife is from Montreal or California?

Anyone know if Jiggy's wife is from Montreal or California?

They've been dating since he was a teenager, so I'm assuming she's from back there.

If you think that your backup is going to get you a blue chip forward prospect you are in for a rude awekening.

I'm factoring in that our backup would be your starter. The price you need to pay is a reflection of his ability not his current role on a Stanley cup contender that already has a Conn Smythe winning goalie.

I never said I had to trade Bryzgalov straight up either, but regardless I put his value in the Raycroft range who still got a blue chip return after losing his starting job to a scrub like Tim Thomas.

I know its been mentioned here before, but if Kariya would sign for less than what he was making last year we should get him. we are lacking in the LW postion. plus it would help selanne in the desicion of playing again next season even if they do win the cup. i think there is something in so cal that makes these two players play so well. if you look they both lacked on other teams. they were the best tandem in the NHL. and just think, now we have Andy Mac as center not ruch. nothing against him but Mac is faster and has more skill. what do you think???:badidea:

I know its been mentioned here before, but if Kariya would sign for less than what he was making last year we should get him. we are lacking in the LW postion.

Did you see how completely ineffective he was in the playoffs? And that cherrypicking act of his cost his team game 4 every bit as much as those major penalties by his teammates cost them a few other games.

Screw him. I hope he continues to choke with other teams for the rest of his career.

They've been dating since he was a teenager, so I'm assuming she's from back there.

I think she's from Halifax, or somewhere around there. Jiggy played for the Halifax Moose in juniors.

I'm factoring in that our backup would be your starter. The price you need to pay is a reflection of his ability not his current role on a Stanley cup contender that already has a Conn Smythe winning goalie.

I never said I had to trade Bryzgalov straight up either, but regardless I put his value in the Raycroft range who still got a blue chip return after losing his starting job to a scrub like Tim Thomas.

Biron got a 2nd. Raycroft got Rask. A late first and a solid goalie prospect seems pretty fair for Bryzgalov. We'll probably find out sooner, rather than later.

I know its been mentioned here before, but if Kariya would sign for less than what he was making last year we should get him. we are lacking in the LW postion.

I would have hoped by now that misconception would have died off. We are fine at the left wing position. Kunitz, Penner and Moen combined for 64 goals. Plus Kunitz is under contract for next year and Moen and Penner are RFA's. If anything we need a LW for the fourth line and I don't think Kariya fits that bill.

If Teemu retires we will need a RW though, assuming Bobby Ryan is still not ready for top-6 NHL minutes.

Biron got a 2nd. Raycroft got Rask. A late first and a solid goalie prospect seems pretty fair for Bryzgalov.

Or a really solid forward prospect, that would be fair too. You made your offer and no one on this board wants it.

You mean people on this board still think Giguere will be wearing a Ducks jersey next season?

I'm willing to bet my season tickets that this guy will not be back in Anaheim after this playoff run.

That and if Jiggy wants to go, he'll go. He is a new father and doesn't plan on retiring in Cali (as far as I know) and this is his last chance to get a huge, long-term deal. Quite frankly, the only way JS stays is if he really wants to stay here.

It's ironic how one can say 5 or 5.5 million for a 4 year contract (which is what
Jiggy is probably worth) is chump change. How many players make that kind of money. I think if Burke offers him a long term deal that does not break the bank JS will take it in order to remain with a team that will contend for the Cup for several more years.

A key ingredient of what he will be offered depends upon what the salary cap will be.
The Ducks, without a doubt, will have to increase their payroll after the year they had. RFA's Penner and Huskins (possibly Dipenta and Jackman, also) will get an increase as well as Moen, if he re-signs with us. We are looking at a further increase the following year for Bryz, Getz and Perry. It's true Marchant's contract will be over after next year for some savings, but we will be adding Bobby Ryan (albeit, at the minimum amount for a first year player, so no real monetary saving.

The core of this team is great and I don't think Burke will want to mess with it too much.

One thing to keep in mind if Jiggy stays in Anaheim is that he'll always be 1A or 1B... he might want to be the main man somewhere.

He might be getting tired of Carlyle's antics.... pure speculation, but legitimate reasons for leaving as any.

One thing to keep in mind if Jiggy stays in Anaheim is that he'll always be 1A or 1B... he might want to be the main man somewhere.

Well he wasn't 1A this year, he was plan 1. 56 starts to 27 I'd say there's no doubt who are number one goalie is. If he stays he'll be given a huge contract and he won't have to compete in a goaltending carosel. That and if Jiggy is re-signed, Bryz will be traded.

That would be the route I would take if Selanne retires and Jiggy re-signs for a reasonable contract.

Rumors are Tampa is exploding, and because of NTC St. Louis and Richards can't be moved... anyone willing to offer Ryan and Bryzgalov for Vinny? Heck we can even throw in a 1st or 2 for this year's draft.

That would be the route I would take if Selanne retires and Jiggy re-signs for a reasonable contract.

Rumors are Tampa is exploding, and because of NTC St. Louis and Richards can't be moved... anyone willing to offer Ryan and Bryzgalov for Vinny? Heck we can even throw in a 1st or 2 for this year's draft.

No way. First, Tampa isn't going to trade the league's leading goal scorer no matter how badly they need a goalie. Second we couldn't afford Vinny's contract and third we don't need more scoring.

But Tampa needs a goalie and if Jiggy is re-signed than a trade with Tampa could be an option. What we need in the off-season more than anything is a top-4 d-man. Doubt Tampa would be willing to part with Dan Boyle or Filip Kuba but either one of them would be a good option, though they probably make too much.

But needless to say, if Jiggy sticks around I can tell you Bryz will or at least should be shopped for a top-4 d-man.

If the Duck fans have been paying attention, then you would know that the free agents and need to be trade are huge in the Ducks minor leagues.

If the Duck fans have been paying attention, then you would know that the free agents and need to be trade are huge in the Ducks minor leagues.

What the hell is this sentence supposed to mean?:whaaa?:

. . . But needless to say, if Jiggy sticks around I can tell you Bryz will or at least should be shopped for a top-4 d-man.

This sounds like last year.

Bryz is certainly worth having for $1-million per year, with or without Jiggy. There will always be injuries, personal problems, or back-to-back games, and we hardly ran away with the Division this year. The only way he gets traded is if his value in a trade is that of a $2-3-million goalie.

That still leaves us with having to afford what we get in the trade. Selanne is a question mark, but Penner will probably get a million more than he does now.

I would like some better talent on D than DiPenta, Jackman, or Huskins, but I don't think that O'Donnell has done all that badly.

No way. First, Tampa isn't going to trade the league's leading goal scorer no matter how badly they need a goalie. Second we couldn't afford Vinny's contract and third we don't need more scoring.

But Tampa needs a goalie and if Jiggy is re-signed than a trade with Tampa could be an option. What we need in the off-season more than anything is a top-4 d-man. Doubt Tampa would be willing to part with Dan Boyle or Filip Kuba but either one of them would be a good option, though they probably make too much.

But needless to say, if Jiggy sticks around I can tell you Bryz will or at least should be shopped for a top-4 d-man.

Its not about goalie, its about salary cap relief. They've tried winning with their money tied up in 3 forwards and it isn't working. Richards, Boyle, and St. Louis have NTC, so trading them will be difficult for Tampa.

Its not about goalie, its about salary cap relief. They've tried winning with their money tied up in 3 forwards and it isn't working. Richards, Boyle, and St. Louis have NTC, so trading them will be difficult for Tampa.

Yeah but trading your best player just because of money won't help the situation either. Frankly I think Tampa is screwed if they can't get Richards to earn his keep. What they need is to do is improve their team from within. Problem is they have one of the worst player developements in the league. But who cares? That's Tampa's problem. If we have to trade our goalie somewhere it should be to a team that can give us something we need.

This sounds like last year.

Bryz is certainly worth having for $1-million per year, with or without Jiggy. There will always be injuries, personal problems, or back-to-back games, and we hardly ran away with the Division this year. The only way he gets traded is if his value in a trade is that of a $2-3-million goalie.

That still leaves us with having to afford what we get in the trade. Selanne is a question mark, but Penner will probably get a million more than he does now.

I would like some better talent on D than DiPenta, Jackman, or Huskins, but I don't think that O'Donnell has done all that badly.

Yes but last year Jiggy wasn't an impending free-agent. If Jiggy gets re-signed it'll be to a large, long-term deal assuring him he'll be our #1 goalie for years to come. Bryz is a FA after next season and if Jiggy stays he'll go at that point, no doubt about it. So we should get something for him before that happens. Can we afford the both of them even if Jiggy signs a big deal? Yeah, especially if Teemu retires. But to lose a talent like Bryzgalov for nothing especially when there are a lot of teams looking to improve their goaltending this off-season isn't smart.

Bottom line, we won't have both of them next season I can almost guarantee you that.

What´s the status of Vitaly Vishnevski? It would be nice to have him back.

Also, is Kondratiev expected to be back next season?

What´s the status of Vitaly Vishnevski? It would be nice to have him back.

Also, is Kondratiev expected to be back next season?

I would be surprised to see Kondratiev back. He can probably make more money in the RSL than Anaheim would be willing to give him in the NHL at this point. It's similar to Chistov, where he'd pretty much need a one-way contract to entice him to come over. I guess it really depends if the Ducks think they need him. He did have a strong year in the RSL, with 20 points in 51 games. Like I said, I would be surprised to see him, but anything can happen.

Vishnevski was supposed to solidify the Predators blue line after a deadline deal with the Thrashers. He went from being a 15-20 minute man in Atlanta to an 8-12 man in Nashville and fell out of favour with the coach. Allegedly, the Preds weren't happy with his conditioning. He's going to be a UFA, made 1.5 million or so last year. Might be an interesting gamble.

i can't remember when or where i read this, but it said that Kariya was a name that was talked about during off season moves..???
can anyone confirm?

i can't remember when or where i read this, but it said that Kariya was a name that was talked about during off season moves..???
can anyone confirm?
That's in the catagory of top line LW that we've still not gotten from the last off season...

Well, I think the team needs another big LW w/ a physical presence and a scoring RW-er to solidify some depth and roll 4 lines. Jackman should replace DiPenta.

I think everything will center around if jiggy resigns and for how much. That will tell us what we can do.

I don't know about selanne... he could retire or he could come back, I'm assuming he's coming back but u never know... I think plan b would be go after someone. Anyone know what teams have a lot of money to spend in the offseason? I'd love to go after Drury but not if tha sking price is 6+ million...

Overall I think the team is fine, we just need better depth players. Thornton is fine as 13/14th forward, not a 10, 11... when healthy, I see our lines like:

Kunitz, McDonald, Selanne
____, Getzlaf, Perry
Moen, Pahlson, Niedermayer
Penner, Marchant, _____

I'd like to see us go after 2 forwards that can play. Thats unlikely, but we can dream...

Our defense is more of a concern, we can't keep playing niedermayer, pronger, and beachemein 30+ minutes... they will break down. Odonnel & Jackman are both UFAs... Huskins might be too...

I've like what I've seen from everyone except Dipenta, who should be a 7th defenseman at best.

I'd really like to keep Odonnel, and get another top 4 guy. We could then pair Huskins with whoever is left, and play each pairing 15-25 minutes. For example:

Niedermayer, Odonnel/new D (let Niedermayer create, odonnel focus on defense)
Pronger, Huskins (Pronger is dirt slow and huskins has speed to join rush)
Beachemein, New D/Oddonel

7th: jackman (again a dream to have that luxury)...

Vishnevski was supposed to solidify the Predators blue line after a deadline deal with the Thrashers. He went from being a 15-20 minute man in Atlanta to an 8-12 man in Nashville and fell out of favour with the coach. Allegedly, the Preds weren't happy with his conditioning. He's going to be a UFA, made 1.5 million or so last year. Might be an interesting gamble.

Pass. He could never crack the top 4 here. Atlanta ditched him after less than a season. The Preds are already tired of him.

Vitali Vishnevski just isn't a good defenseman, I don't care how many guys he hits.

Besides, there isn't a Euro any where near the Anaheim blueline. I think Burke likes it that way.

I think everything will center around if jiggy resigns and for how much. That will tell us what we can do.

I don't know about selanne... he could retire or he could come back, I'm assuming he's coming back but u never know... I think plan b would be go after someone. Anyone know what teams have a lot of money to spend in the offseason? I'd love to go after Drury but not if tha sking price is 6+ million...

Overall I think the team is fine, we just need better depth players. Thornton is fine as 13/14th forward, not a 10, 11... when healthy, I see our lines like:

Kunitz, McDonald, Selanne
____, Getzlaf, Perry
Moen, Pahlson, Niedermayer
Penner, Marchant, _____

I'd like to see us go after 2 forwards that can play. Thats unlikely, but we can dream...

Our defense is more of a concern, we can't keep playing niedermayer, pronger, and beachemein 30+ minutes... they will break down. Odonnel & Jackman are both UFAs... Huskins might be too...

I've like what I've seen from everyone except Dipenta, who should be a 7th defenseman at best.

I'd really like to keep Odonnel, and get another top 4 guy. We could then pair Huskins with whoever is left, and play each pairing 15-25 minutes. For example:

Niedermayer, Odonnel/new D (let Niedermayer create, odonnel focus on defense)
Pronger, Huskins (Pronger is dirt slow and huskins has speed to join rush)
Beachemein, New D/Oddonel

7th: jackman (again a dream to have that luxury)...

Penner has proven to be a top-6 forward and that line might end up being our top line next year. With our third line already shored up for the next two years (that's if the report that Moen has been re-signed is true) all we need to worry about as forwards go is depth players, particularly at center, and replacing Teemu if he retires. My gut tells me he has at least one more year in him, won or lose.

The d-line is a big concern though. OD, Husky, Joey and Jackman are all UFA's. I'd like OD to re-sign but he'll have to take less money. Husky has earned his contract for next year as far as I'm concerned and may even sneak into our top-4 next year. Only one of Jackman and DiPenta is staying with either and I'd rather have Jackman. Our 7th spot should be for a rookie battling for a spot, possibly Rome, Skinner or Wilson.

Also, Pronger slow as dirt? He might not have blazing speed or anything but he gets around the ice just fine. You rarely see anyone just blow right past him.

Kunitz, McDonald, Selanne
____, Getzlaf, Perry
Moen, Pahlson, Niedermayer
Penner, Marchant, _____


Penner on the 4th line? Um, no. I see absolutely no reason to break up PPG.

I would like to see them go out and get two new fourth line wingers though. A better version of Parros and a better version of Thornton. Maybe keep May as the latter. Two guys that can be had as UFA's for 1 to 1.5 million together.

Our defense is more of a concern, we can't keep playing niedermayer, pronger, and beachemein 30+ minutes... they will break down. Odonnel & Jackman are both UFAs... Huskins might be too...

Huskins is RFA as far as I know. The only way I'd keep O'Donnell is as the 5th guy and that assumes they go out and get a better option at #4. His age is a concern for me.

Penner on the 4th line? Um, no. I see absolutely no reason to break up PPG.

I would like to see them go out and get two new fourth line wingers though. A better version of Parros and a better version of Thornton. Maybe keep May as the latter. Two guys that can be had as UFA's for 1 to 1.5 million together.



Huskins is RFA as far as I know. The only way I'd keep O'Donnell is as the 5th guy and that assumes they go out and get a better option at #4. His age is a concern for me.

Why does it matter? All lines gets pretty much the same amount of icetime. And about Vishnevski, he maybe can´t crack our top 4, but our top 6 he can for sure... Vishnevski has been underrestimated by the Preds for sure, pretty good skater for his playingstyle and his open ice hits are probably the best in the league, Nashville did just never see the good in him.

Huskins is RFA as far as I know. The only way I'd keep O'Donnell is as the 5th guy and that assumes they go out and get a better option at #4. His age is a concern for me.

I believe Huskins is a Group VI free agent, or at least that's what a couple different sites have said. Regardless I think he'll be re-signed anyways.

Why does it matter? All lines gets pretty much the same amount of icetime.

What is eaiser to find, another really good winger to player with Getzlaf and Perry or a decent fourth line guy since we already have Penner. It just a matter of being practical.

I would be perfectly happy with a fourth line that can play a solid 10 minutes per night. That has worked in this league for a long time. And that was before you had to worry about a salary cap.

And about Vishnevski, he maybe can´t crack our top 4, but our top 6 he can for sure... Vishnevski has been underrestimated by the Preds for sure, pretty good skater for his playingstyle and his open ice hits are probably the best in the league, Nashville did just never see the good in him.

I prefer Beauchemin's controlled hitting with a purpose any day. I love the way that guy can destroy someone occassionally and for the rest of the time just play really, really solid defense. That's how you should hit.

"Best in the league" types don't wear four different sweaters in the span of 14 months.

I believe Huskins is a Group VI free agent, or at least that's what a couple different sites have said.

Could be. The Hockey News draft preview lists him as one of the Ducks RFAs, I'm no more sure about it than that.

I'd like to see Jeffrey Hamilton in a Ducks jersey, he had a pretty good year in Blackhawks this season. Has great speed, a pretty good shot and is very very cheap. He earned 0.475 million this year and is a UFA next season. He's pretty small, but could maybe speed up the Getzlaf/Perry line or maybe bring some skill to the Marchant-line. Maybe not the first guy you think off, but I think he could rise one level with players like Getzlaf. Maybe lacking in consistency, but could definetly get a career-boost with a move to Anaheim.

I've seen some highlights on this guy, and watched him in a few games. Do someone else have an opinion on this guy? Maybe someone who've watched him more than I did. Cause from what I've seen, this guy seems awsome.

We need more depth on the bottom lines. If Selanne retires and Jiggy leaves then we have to go and sign a top 6 RW, and probably a defensemen and a backup for Bryz.

ideally Selanne can come back and give us one more great year and Jiggy will take 5 mill or less, I don't see us signing him if he wants more.

The thing is, Carlyle likes to go with at least one enforcer... And Marchant needs a scorer on his side. So if Penner is playing with Getz and Perry, the best solution would be to pick up a thirdliner who can score... It´s times like this you wish Friesen was still here.

Im thinking:

Kunitz - McDonald - Selänne
Penner - Getzlaf - Perry
Speedy scorer with defensive skills - Marchant - enforcer who can make 20+ points
Moen - Påhlsson - R. Niedermayer
(Parros, Thornton, Shannon, Ryan)

S. Niedermayer - Beauchemin
Pronger - O'Donnell
Vishnevski - Huskins
(DiPenta, Rome, Skinner, Wilson)

Giguere
Bryzgalov
(Hiller, Caron)

It´s times like this you wish Friesen was still here.


God damn it, now I have one more person on Hfboards I need to kill.

God damn it, now I have one more person on Hfboards I need to kill.

I didn´t mention him on my "fantasy roster" right? so please show mercy ;)

But still if he would come back (which he wont) he would come cheaper this time, and only for defensive purposes.

Anyhow, one guy I´d like is Matt Pettinger. Don´t think he´s that speedy tough, but a guy who´s a good physical player and strong along the boards and capable of making 30+ points on a third line. Could be a good fit for Marchant, don´t know his contract status tough.

Marchant is under contract thru 2009, if that's who you were wondering about.

EDIT: Pettinger is also under contract thru 2009.