GDT: Hurricanes at Devils, 3/17, 1:00 PM

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BROADCAST INFORMATION
MEDIUM| STATION|TIME|BROADCASTERS| LINKS
Television|FSNY|12:30 - Devils GameNight| Cangialosi, Fischler, Daneyko|
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GAMEDAY ARTICLES
ARTICLE TITLE| WRITER|NEWSPAPER
"Kid call-ups impressive for Devils (http://www.nj.com/devils/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1174109143320940.xml&coll=1)"|Rich Chere|http://www.corestreet.com/img/press/starledger.gif
"Brodeur remains constant for Devs (http://www.northjersey.com/page.php?qstr=eXJpcnk3ZjczN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXkxMzMmZmdi ZWw3Zjd2cWVlRUV5eTcwOTQzODgmeXJpcnk3ZjcxN2Y3dnFlZU VFeXk2)"|Tom Gulitti| http://www.northjersey.com/img/record_logo_sm.gif
"BATTERED DEVS BATTLE THROUGH PAIN (http://www.nypost.com/seven/03172007/sports/devils/battered_devs_battle_through_pain_devils_mark_ever son.htm)"|Mark Everson|http://www.bates.edu/images/BPIN_logos/New%20York%20Post.gif
"Hart of the Matter (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20070317.HOCKEYMAIN17_ART_2105/TPStory/Sports)"| Tim Wharnsby| http://cdn.idc.com/images/getFileImages/IDC_P12622/globeandmail06_logo120.jpg



TEAM LEADERS
LEADERS|DEVILS PLAYER|#|HURRICANES PLAYER|#
GOALS|Zach Parise|28|Justin Williams|33
ASSISTS|Scott Gomez|45|Rod Brind’Amour|51
POINTS|Patrik Elias|65|Ray Whitney|75
PIM|Cam Janssen|98|Mike Commodore|96
+/-|Scott Gomez|+10|Rod Brind’Amour|+12
ATOI|Brian Rafalski|25:50|Rod Brind’Amour|23:26



GOALTENDER STATISTICS
HURRICANES GOALTENDERS|GP|W| L|OTL|SO|GAA|SV%
Cam Ward |53|27|17|6|2|2.81|90.1|
John Grahame |23|8|12|2|0|2.76|90.3|
Craig Kowalski|0|0|0|0|0|--|--


DEVILS GOALTENDERS|GP|W| L|OTL|SO|GAA|SV%
Martin Brodeur|67|42|19|7|12|2.14|92.4|
Scott Clemmensen |4|1|1|1|0|3.14|88.9|



SPECIAL TEAMS
SPECIAL TEAM|DEVILS SUCCESS RATE| l l l l % |NHL Rank|HURRICANES SUCCESS RATE| l l l l % |NHL Rank
Power Play|57 for 327|17.4%|16th|58 for 393|14.8%|26th
Penalty Kill|203 for 238|85.3%|3rd|300 for 355|84.5%|9th


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BAH!

I just made a post about the game time being changed.

Is Elias back in?

Is this game going to be on Sopcast? My flight from DC to Florida this morning got cancelled (despite the fact no snow or ice is on the ground here and the plane was coming from Ohio and that flight took place). So I will be able to watch while trying to contact US AIrways for what is now going on 5 straight hours.

Carolina is going to be seeking some points tonight. They're desperate. Let's hope our wounded team can put up a fight and get those 2 points themselves in regulation!

LETS GO DEVILS!!!

11 games left. It was this time last year that we began our 11 game (15 including playoffs) winning streak. Let's get that going again today!

I predict a 3-1 victory by The Devils.

GO DEVILS GO!

I don't know, to beat Caroline in back to back when they're so desperate for points will be very tough to do. Especially, with our home record of late. However, with no help from either Montreal or Tampa last night, this is a another big game for us as well. And to me, it's more important to win our division than the conference. Go Devils.

Carolina is going to be seeking some points tonight. They're desperate. Let's hope our wounded team can put up a fight and get those 2 points themselves in regulation!

LETS GO DEVILS!!!

i am with you 2 points in regulation for the Devils, hopefully another SO for Marty as well

Play the same game they did last game against carolina and everything will fall into place. NJ was very accountable and disciplined and for the first time in awhile really made the opposing team pay for its mistakes by being patient. If marty is a wall, its a no-brainer. Carolina is going to be very desperate and this game will be no easy task. All that being said NJ- 57 Car- 2 ;)

Wow we're 13-1-2 on the road since X-mas?

Beastly.

does anyone know if this game is broadcast on the internet?

And....our home woes continue.

Anyone know the lineup's?

Anyone know the lineup's?

NHL.com's super stats (http://www.nhl.com/scores/htmlreports/20062007/ES021069.HTM).

Penalllty on us

from what I saw, what a horrible call. Especially considering the things they let go up until this point. Quite a few trips then they call interference because Rass takes the body in a tight cluster of guys.

Jesus christ how many times has the puck squibbed past Brodeur

Andy Greene and Paul Martin are auditioning for goaltender. They each stopped a puck on the goal line as it was trickling in.

Looks like Wallin is learning the lesson for not being very good at throwing a body check..

I'll take that.

from what I saw, what a horrible call. Especially considering the things they let go up until this point. Quite a few trips then they call interference because Rass takes the body in a tight cluster of guys.
It was a three on two and they kind of had a formation like this
X O
______O
X O

Real tight and the trailer had the puck and was shooting. Rasmussen came in late and knocked down the bottom 'O' and you can't do that.

Also, what a ******* Williams is. You see him purposely trying to use his skate to pull Brodeurs pad out.

Man getting up to listen to these afternoon games are killer...3 shots??? C'mon guys, let's go!

The Devils only have 3 shots so far.

edit: doh! not in time.

It was a three on two and they kind of had a formation like this
X O
______O
X O

Real tight and the trailer had the puck and was shooting. Rasmussen came in late and knocked down the bottom 'O' and you can't do that.

My point was inconsistent officiating. They let blatant stuff go, then call that.

Man getting up to listen to these afternoon games are killer...3 shots??? C'mon guys, let's go!

Afternoon games just don't appear to be our forte :dunno:

What are you guys talking about? They have 40 minutes of hockey left with a ton of energy. They may not have scored, but they certainly sapped the energy from the Canes' through good hitting and robbing them of goals.

2nd period, they will come out and crush them.

4 shots on goal the whole period, scary

couldn't watch the first. had to do some stuff. I hope the second and third are good though. Both Elias and Madden are still out right?

from what I saw, what a horrible call. Especially considering the things they let go up until this point. Quite a few trips then they call interference because Rass takes the body in a tight cluster of guys.

We are at the point in the season where the officials make the calls they want to make, not the ones that actually happen.

couldn't watch the first. had to do some stuff. I hope the second and third are good though. Both Elias and Madden are still out right?

correct

not a horrible period. good hitting, marty is scaring me by letting the softies trickle through. ras continues to be horrible with receiving passes.

4 shots on goal the whole period, scary

They spent more time setting the mood of the 2nd and 3rd. Frankly, if they ain't shooting, they better be hitting. Which they all were.

We are at the point in the season where the officials make the calls they want to make, not the ones that actually happen.

right but be consistent. You have to wonder if the officiating gets that way for a reason. Because great, it was interference, but why let Carolina go on a few calls and then call that?

Like I said above, be consistent.

not a horrible period. good hitting, marty is scaring me by letting the softies trickle through. ras continues to be horrible with receiving passes.

You know something, Ras is the only guy in our lineup who I really don't see as a true Devil. If I had to make a list of every Devils player I could think of in 15 seconds, his name would probably not even come to my mind. I'd like to see him replaced with someone who can at least score 10 goals a season.

right but be consistent. You have to wonder if the officiating gets that way for a reason. Because great, it was interference, but why let Carolina go on a few calls and then call that?

Like I said above, be consistent.

Because they didn't want to call a penalty on Carolina. They wanted to make a call on New Jersey.

Because they didn't want to call a penalty on Carolina. They wanted to make a call on New Jersey.

Again, my point. heh

Great.

I think our defense missed snack time.

Forget this game.

Wow... we are getting ransacked.

3 goals against, no offense by NJ, sloppy D...oh **** this is the Pittsburgh game!!!! :cry:

Forget this game.

Yup.

This team looks like **** at home.

Yup.

This team looks like **** at home.

Maybe we should just not aim for home-ice.

I love how they are just going to blame the loss on the ice again like the Pittsburgh game. 5 straight losses at home. nice work guys. I'm turning this **** off. Oh and Colin, way to shoot DIRECTLY into his pads.

At least there's plenty of time to salvage something. Not necessarily overtime, I mean a goal or something.

Carolina is running plays from the 122 Playbook.

crap.

Yay for 100 minutes without a goal at home.

I love how they are just going to blame the loss on the ice again like the Pittsburgh game. 5 straight losses at home. nice work guys. I'm turning this **** off. Oh and Colin, way to shoot DIRECTLY into his pads.

Fine. Turn it off and walk away.

All it takes is a few bounces going our way. One goal to start it all up again. And they can bounce back.

Yeah, that's the dagger.

Another deflection beats Martin Brodeur clearly.

4-0.

Just get a goal, Devils. PLEASE just a goal.

Fine. Turn it off and walk away.

All it takes is a few bounces going our way. One goal to start it all up again. And they can bounce back.

It's not like the Devils usually try before the last 2 minutes anyways.

Fine. Turn it off and walk away.

All it takes is a few bounces going our way. One goal to start it all up again. And they can bounce back.

Yeah but its not going to happen. Everytime this happens I think to myself "Hey, maybe they will come back in the third like that game against Toronto"......it never happens. And we are missing 2 leading offensive players. And our best checking center.

A review makes the goal official. The Devils take a timeout.

If the Devils don't come out with some fire; just put Clemmensen in.

UPDATE: NO! Clemmensen will go in for Brodeur! Wow.

What can I say? Just another hard-luck game for us.

And Marty is out.

Honestly, I hope we end up in the worst position possible in the conference. For two reasons. One, they don't deserve to be where they are the way they have been playing. And two, I can't wait to get rid of some of these guys. Julien, Gomez among the top of the list.

Well this ruined my day :doh: :surrender :banghead: I hope they are being booed mercilessly.

This sucks for Marty... it must feel like Game 1 all over again against Carolina...

This is pathetic......do you not want the division or the conference?! Where is the intensity?!?!?!

Well this ruined my day :doh: :surrender :banghead: I hope they are being booed mercilessly.

The crowd is trying to be as supportive as they can.

No joke.

This sucks for Marty... it must feel like Game 1 all over again against Carolina...

Yeah I do feel bad for Marty. But you could see Julien say "What do you want to do Marty?" So he gave him a choice.

What can I say? Just another hard-luck game for us.

Hard luck game my ass...the team didn't show up today.

This game certainly is over...at least marty gets a break now and perhaps does not need to have another game off except perhaps for the last game of the season, but with our injuries, last day of season, there still may be a lot on the line

C'mon guys, we were hoping for a little help across the river... 4-0? The one time a year I actually am rooting for the Devils and this is what happens?

Hard luck game my ass...the team didn't show up today.

Nor at the Pens game, nor at the Bruins game, nor at the Caps game....

Damn that's a good cycle of crappy home games.

This is pathetic......do you not want the division or the conference?! Where is the intensity?!?!?!

Because they are spoiled. They make the playoffs every year. They never worry about not making the playoffs or people catching them. They obviously haven't looked at the standings.

My prediction:

1. Sabres
2. Pens
3. Atlanta
4. Sens
5. Devils

Clarkson Scores!!!

Clarkson 4-1!

Clarkson I love you!!!

David Clarkson scores!!!! His first NHL goal and a lifeline for the Devils!

4-1!

Hard luck game my ass...the team didn't show up today.

they haven't shown up for about 7 of the last 10.

Wow...it's amazing whaat a little EFFORT can do.

Congrats to Clarkson on his 1st goal.

Quit with the *****ing people. Seriously.

Let's hope this goal stirs something up.

Clarkson making a case for not being sent down....at least some effort....finally....That s all i am asking for, they will not win, but they can show some effort...that s why they re paid big bucks

Let's not get our hopes up here.

But congrats Clarkson.

The crowd went nuts when they announcer announced the goal

The crowd is trying to be as supportive as they can.

No joke.


Weird I'm not watching it but it just sounds like they are playing really, really bad.

ehh, we will see, maybe we can salvage something

ehh, we will see, maybe we can salvage something

To do that, we definitely need at least one more this period. And can't allow anymore in the game.

A little bit of Matvichuk all night long..........can we or no??

Penalty on us oh yes

A little bit of Matvichuk all night long..........can we or no??

what?

Seriously what is it with Brad and Carolina? Does he get paid by them as well?!

Lukowich will take the call.

Matvichuk? A guy who isn't fast, who hasn't played all season long, on defense would help NJ here how?

2 minute minor.

what?

You know, like Mambo #5....sheesh where have you been

Lukowich will take the call.

Matvichuk? A guy who isn't fast, who hasn't played all season long, on defense would help NJ here how?

You're a fool, he was a great defensman for us last year, and his presence would be huge, may as well activate him now to get him ready for the playoffs. That's why I want to activate him.

I'm a fool? Do we not forget how "well" he did after the lockout in the first three months of last season? He was called Matvisuck for a reason. I can't understand how anyone can expect him to reach his form in second half of 2006 right away he's been sitting all season long.

Larry Robinson will be interviewed in the second intermission. That should be interesting, I'd like to know how he's doing. Well, obviously he's well enough to give an interview.

ahhhh so close Brylin!!!

I'm a fool? Do we not forget how "well" he did after the lockout in the first three months of last season? He was called Matvisuck for a reason. I can't compare his form in second half of 2006 to what could be since he's been sitting all season long.

Larry Robinson will be interviewed in the second intermission. That should be interesting, I'd like to know how he's doing. Well, obviously he's well enough to give an interview.

veteran leadership is never to be under estimated.....5-1 now

You know, like Mambo #5....sheesh where have you been

:biglaugh: :biglaugh: that's what I thought. but the "can we or no" threw me off.


bye Devils.

Chad LaRose beats Clemmensen shortside and it's 5-1 Carolina.

It's looking real grim at this point.

REGARDING MATVICHUK: Matvichuk provided leadership? Really?

and he wonders why he doesn't play

How has Gomez looked today?

I thought he looked great Thursday

I don't care what anyone says, this is where Gionta thrived.

I know I have been all negative today. But it seems that every game is just ruining Marty's chance of the Hart.

How has Gomez looked today?

I thought he looked great Thursday

he's had some good moments. Showing a ton of energy. Isn't standing out too much though.

This PP is HUGE. If we don't score here, our chance of winning goes to 0%. Right now it is at 5%

It's just one game. Let's not get it twisted.

Jay Pandolfo draws a penalty call. A good power play to close the second may help things for NJ.

UPDATE: Period over and Clarkson is fighting a Cane. Oh, if only Rafalski got control of that pass, we could have seen this ended 5-2...

oo Clarkson on the PP? nice


you suck Rafalski

at least I can place online bets..haha the game is faster than the bets...I knew the canes scored and bet 10 bucks....when my bet was accepted, the goal was announced there hahahaha

Let Them Fight You Stupid Refs

1 PM starts FTL. :)

Is anyone really surprised though? Devils have been playing players short/roster short for a while (burnout). The were badly outplayed and lucky to win vs the 'Canes last time. Unlike the Devils, the 'Canes are still trying to secure a playoff spot.

Raffy, you gotta bury those. Oh well, 1+ minute PP to start the 3rd.

oh well maybe not. well we may lose that atlantic if we don't get healthy. what would suck is that we would play ottawa and lose. ottawa, tampa and atlanta are the only teams that frighten me in the east.

It's just one game. Let's not get it twisted.


Don't forget Pittsburgh. You know the people who vote on the Hart will be tough on Marty too, just because its Marty and they expect him to have a perfect game all the time.

1 PM starts FTL. :)

Is anyone really surprised though? Devils have been playing players short/roster short for a while (burnout). The were badly outplayed and lucky to win vs the 'Canes last time. Unlike the Devils, the 'Canes are still trying to secure a playoff spot.

Yeah the Madden Elias Gionta injury combo is really catching up with us. When Madden and Elias come back, WE should send down Pelley and keep Clarkson up. Have him play with Elias and Gomez.

Alex Tanguay seems to be an exact replica of Gomez, only makes less bonehead passes and doesn't try to move like Neon Deion. What's his status, is he available any time soon?

5-1!?? I'm glad I stopped watching at 2-0.
Was Clarkson's goal nice?

Well, this game is done, lets hope no one else pulls their groin.

Injuries + Marty not being as invincible as the beginning of the season = Mediocre Devils

Eh, don't worry guys, we go on the road for 3 after this.

Eh, don't worry guys, we go on the road for 3 after this.

3 wins baby

5-1!?? I'm glad I stopped watching at 2-0.
Was Clarkson's goal nice?

Well, this game is done, lets hope no one else pulls their groin.

Except replace watch with listen. You could kind of get that feeling right from the get go that this game wasn't going to go their way. It is disapointing for sure, but like someone else said, I think playing with the short roster for a handful of games, combined with all the injuries to key players lately, your bound to have games like this. The division title is no sure thing right now, but at least we aren't in a position where we are fighting for our playoff lives like the Hurricanes. We've got some key guys out right now and have to fight through it. I think going on the road for a few games is a good thing.

sidney slumped, his team kept winning. marty slumps, its 4-0.

who deserves the hart?
;)

Eh, don't worry guys, we go on the road for 3 after this.

It's funny....it's like the exact opposite for the Flames. Seriously. haha:biglaugh:

sidney slumped, his team kept winning. marty slumps, its 4-0.

who deserves the hart?
;)

:biglaugh: :biglaugh: good point

3 road wins in a row. won the last 4 out of 5 road games. 4 home losses in a row. soon to be 5. a road trip couldn't have came at a better time.

I feel bad for whoever went to the game. Did they have a pregame ceremony? They didn't show it...

I feel bad for whoever went to the game. Did they have a pregame ceremony? They didn't show it...

yeah Stevens dropped the puck

Stevens, Daneyko, and Albelin were at the ceremony.

Commodore and Clarkson are serving coincidental minors.

The Devils aren't quitting, throwing pucks at Grahame. Which is what they need to do...

Great backcheck by Brylin

Eh, don't worry guys, we go on the road for 3 after this.

Wow... when did going on the road become a good thing? I remember the reverse was true earlier in the season.

lets get one here. just because.

Devils have lost exactly 3 road games since Christmas, only one in regulation (to Florida)

Devils nearly get lucky there. David Tanabe did a bad thing, so the Devils are on the power play again.

well we're putting on the pressure.

3 wins baby

Hopefully 3 shutouts too! Marty's stats are plummeting.

I am really getting sick of the trap at times. They get way too passive.

wait. what, ref?

Langenbrunner hits LaRose, but the ref sees an elbow so he'll sit 2 for elbowing (though the elbow hit the glass and not LaRose).

Sigh.

hopes of the jennings trophy are basically crushed now.

this is awesome

Scott Walker pours on the misery just before the power play.

6-1 Canes.

great system we have here

So much for that 11 game win streak.

I would say well maybe this will light a fire under them but we all know that's true as we lost to Boston I believe it was the last time we lost big.

Can I complain now? or will i get ridiculed by all you guys? 5 in a row at home lets go back to the 1990's to find that stat

I think Julien will be fired before the season is out, his system is not working, only through the brilliant play of broduer do we have 96pts

He lost his team in the toronto game and they do not respect him anymore. hiding janssen in that game is when our current slump began, the team has not been the same since

this crap with no forechecking and the defensman never helping the offensive guys out is a recipe for failure in playoffs. on top of that teams so easily are able to bring the puck through the neutral zone and keep constant pressure on our defense and goalie

if you all don't see it...you are blind, I love the devils so am not against them but i am calling a spade a spade, we are in a downward spiral and things need to change before playoffs:help:

Every game we play like crap all we hear is "It's only 1 game" or we have only lost 3 out of 4 or some other BS. This yeam has been playing like **** for well over a month. There have been signs of good play at intermittent times and some very exceptional individual performances which has saved our bacon, but now we are seeing the fruits of our poor play. The last 5 home games have been an unmitigated disaster and it seems this team can only focus on the road.

The blame for that is the coach. He is so freaking inflexible that this team never comes out of the trap. He needs to roll with the games and adjust accordingly and he is very poor at it. That may very well be our poison pill in the playoffs.

Can I complain now? or will i get ridiculed by all you guys? 5 in a row at home lets go back to the 1990's to find that stat

I think Julien will be fired before the season is out, his system is not working, only through the brilliant play of broduer do we have 96pts

He lost his team in the toronto game and they do not respect him anymore. hiding janssen in that game is when our current slump began, the team has not been the same since

this crap with no forechecking and the defensman never helping the offensive guys out is a recipe for failure in playoffs. on top of that teams so easily are able to bring the puck through the neutral zone and keep constant pressure on our defense and goalie

if you all don't see it...you are blind, I love the devils so am not against them but i am calling a spade a spade, we are in a downward spiral and things need to change before playoffs:help:

Habs fans warned us when he was hired that this would happen.

They gave Niedermayer's number to a rookie?

I am really getting sick of the trap at times. They get way too passive.

to me it puts too much empasis on defensive zone coverage as teams are easily barrelling through our neutral zone and getting puck in deep and then keeping a sustained forecheck on

if we were getting lots of odd man rushed i could live with it, but i can't remember our last 2 on 1

all kidding aside? Is Pat Burns available to coach?

Langenbrunner was thrown out of the game apparantly.

Oh, complain all you want - IT WILL CHANGE NOTHING SINCE NOTHING ON A MESSAGE BOARD CAN AFFECT HOW A HOCKEY TEAM PLAYS.

Especially about a coach who isn't on the ice and taking stupid calls and playing flatter than a board.

They gave Niedermayer's number to a rookie?

when was Niedermayer's number retired?

They gave Niedermayer's number to a rookie?

Barry "Bust" Tallackson wore it as well.

So much for that 11 game win streak.

Without Elias, Madden, Gionta. A Rassmussen who can't receive a pass. A Defense which has no confidence now. And now Brodeur with no confidence.

We will be hitting (if we haven't) our lowest low soon enough.

Those of you surprised by all this really need to know that the writing was on the wall for this loss and many soon to follow.

Don't worry, things will get better soon enough boys. :)

Langenbrunner was thrown out of the game apparantly.

Oh, complain all you want - IT WILL CHANGE NOTHING SINCE NOTHING ON A MESSAGE BOARD CAN AFFECT HOW A HOCKEY TEAM PLAYS.

Especially about a coach who isn't on the ice and taking stupid calls and playing flatter than a board.

why was he thrown out?

7-1

Tim Gleason scores on a 2 man advantage: 7-1.

Damn Claude Julien for not going out on the ice and doing something himself.

Without Elias, Madden, Gionta. A Rassmussen who can't receive a pass. A Defense which has no confidence now. And now Brodeur with no confidence.

We will be hitting (if we haven't) our lowest low soon enough.

Those of you surprised by all this really need to know that the writing was on the wall for this loss and many soon to follow.

Don't worry, things will get better soon enough boys. :)

mind expaining how they will get better?

Without Elias, Madden, Gionta. A Rassmussen who can't receive a pass. A Defense which has no confidence now. And now Brodeur with no confidence.

We will be hitting (if we haven't) our lowest low soon enough.

Those of you surprised by all this really need to know that the writing was on the wall for this loss and many soon to follow.

Don't worry, things will get better soon enough boys. :)

lets hope so

A little sad that Clarkson has been the best player on the ice today.

Perhaps this has been mentioned...but Rasmussen on the top line? Any one else seem to notice that Mike Rupp seemed to have some kind of chemistry when he was with Gomez and Elias? But thats me...

Travis Zajac scores and no celebration because...well...you know.

7-2.

Tim Gleason scores on a 2 man advantage: 7-1.

Damn Claude Julien for not going out on the ice and doing something himself.

maybe if he let his team forecheck the other team wouldn't have time to score 7 goals

so if you don't think its the coach then u must think we have a talent problem

mind expaining how they will get better?



Luckily with time we will get a few players back?

Oduya is fighting and is really laying into Adams here. Adams is now fighting and he knocks Oduya down.

All of you wanting Johnny Oduya to fight, there you are. Are you happy now?

About time for Oduya to fight.

when was Niedermayer's number retired?

Just thought it was interesting.

Can I complain now? or will i get ridiculed by all you guys? 5 in a row at home lets go back to the 1990's to find that stat

I think Julien will be fired before the season is out, his system is not working, only through the brilliant play of broduer do we have 96pts

He lost his team in the toronto game and they do not respect him anymore. hiding janssen in that game is when our current slump began, the team has not been the same since

this crap with no forechecking and the defensman never helping the offensive guys out is a recipe for failure in playoffs. on top of that teams so easily are able to bring the puck through the neutral zone and keep constant pressure on our defense and goalie

if you all don't see it...you are blind, I love the devils so am not against them but i am calling a spade a spade, we are in a downward spiral and things need to change before playoffs:help:

You think this is all Julien's fault? I mean seriously?

Claude Julien is a great coach and is doing his best. But a coach can only do so much. When the team fielded on the ice is missing key components, then everyone will suffer.

The Devils win as a team, and lose as one.

Good for Johnny. More than held his own with some nice shots.

Langenbrunner was thrown out of the game apparantly.

Oh, complain all you want - IT WILL CHANGE NOTHING SINCE NOTHING ON A MESSAGE BOARD CAN AFFECT HOW A HOCKEY TEAM PLAYS.

Especially about a coach who isn't on the ice and taking stupid calls and playing flatter than a board.

I think that you should PM Buffaloed or Lou Is God and tell them to shut the board down then. :sarcasm:

Of course the players and coaches and Lou don't read this nonsense. We are only fans and as fans we have a right to complain knowing nothing will come of it. We also don't need to be fighting with each other.

Absolutely, loved to see it. and now Janssen went after Walker, but they didn't fight.

maybe if he let his team forecheck the other team wouldn't have time to score 7 goals

so if you don't think its the coach then u must think we have a talent problem

You're wrong. I think it's a lack of passion and committment. From the start, the Devils came out flat and didn't challenge. Carolina got a couple breaks (Ladd's leg screened Marty on goal #1, goal #2 was a deflection) and the Devils didn't respond at all.

Talent nor coaching fixes confidence in the middle of a game.

We have a Cam Janssen....not doing anything. Well, this game is getting uglier.

And RU is right; this is just a bump in the road. It sucks now, but like the 5-4 loss to Pittsburgh, will it mean all that much a few weeks later? Probably not.

Luckily with time we will get a few players back?

no guarantee though. Gionta is going to be out until the playoffs. Do we have any idea how long Madden and Elias are out for?

**** I missed the fight. I was watching the Ohio State game. ****

maybe if he let his team forecheck the other team wouldn't have time to score 7 goals

so if you don't think its the coach then u must think we have a talent problem

You sit there in the shadows just waiting, and waiting, and as soon as the team hits a wall, you pick on your targets.

Whether its Julien being coach, Elias being captain, etc. All you do is complain, and its annoying.

I dunno about you guys... even though this team is losing, this game is still possibly the most exciting and entertaining for me to watch as of late.

GO DEVILS!

I love this. The Devils are getting angry and fed up. This is what they need. They need some FIRE in the organization. This is what they have been missing for many games. And its about damned time.

good a little passion, oduya can throw the fists sorry we have not seen more of that

You're wrong. I think it's a lack of passion and committment. From the start, the Devils came out flat and didn't challenge. Carolina got a couple breaks (Ladd's leg screened Marty on goal #1, goal #2 was a deflection) and the Devils didn't respond at all.

Talent nor coaching fixes confidence in the middle of a game.

We have a Cam Janssen....not doing anything. Well, this game is getting uglier.

And RU is right; this is just a bump in the road. It sucks now, but like the 5-4 loss to Pittsburgh, will it mean all that much a few weeks later? Probably not.

RU and you are WRONG. This is not a bump in the road. I could live with the 5-4 loss, at least they came back.

Wash, Tor, Bos, Pit, Today-----How can they all be bumps in the road? In every game they folded like a cheap suit or never showed up. Of course it will happen sometimes but 5 times in 3 weeks in not acceptable to me and it shouldn't be to you either. We are very proud fans of a very proud organization and the on-ice product frankly sucks right now and it is getting worse. When will it end????

At this point in the season, it's either Marty is freaking awesome or we lose.

Are they gonna have trouble getting up for Toronto on Tuesday????? The better not because those animals want blood.

I love this. The Devils are getting angry and fed up. This is what they need. They need some FIRE in the organization. This is what they have been missing for many games. And its about damned time.




That's about the only good thing to come out of the game then. I don't think on either of the other blowouts they showed that.

Devils will get a 4 minute power play which should take us to the end of this game.

A goal...please?

You sit there in the shadows just waiting, and waiting, and as soon as the team hits a wall, you pick on your targets.

Whether its Julien being coach, Elias being captain, etc. All you do is complain, and its annoying.

I dunno about you guys... even though this team is losing, this game is still possibly the most exciting and entertaining for me to watch as of late.

GO DEVILS!

not complaining, talking about hockey.........I see why the team is struggling give my opinion as to why. instead of an intelligent counter you just tell me to shut up.

if you think youi know hockey then tell me why youi think the team is struggling, I disagree with juliens coaching style, doesn't mean i dont' like the team

i have been to more game than u ever will be to and have spen over $100,000 in my lifetime on season tickets, so talk hockey and stop just telling me to zip it

I have so much more respect for Oduya now. I love when guys that don't normally fight (or even hit for that matter) get into fights. I love you Johnny.

Big scrum up front by Grahame holds on!

Carolina holds a Devil; so the Devils will get a 5-on-3 for a bit.

RU and you are WRONG. This is not a bump in the road. I could live with the 5-4 loss, at least they came back.

Wash, Tor, Bos, Pit, Today-----How can they all be bumps in the road? In every game they folded like a cheap suit or never showed up. Of course it will happen sometimes but 5 times in 3 weeks in not acceptable to me and it shouldn't be to you either. We are very proud fans of a very proud organization and the on-ice product frankly sucks right now and it is getting worse. When will it end????

At this point in the season, it's either Marty is freaking awesome or we lose.

Are they gonna have trouble getting up for Toronto on Tuesday????? The better not because those animals want blood.

exactly right you are. nobosy comlains about losing a game that would be foolish. bad bounces missed opportunities, great goaltending by the opposition that stuff happens throughout the course of a season. This team has problems right now and i don't think they are going to just dust it off, we can't make any trades so what's next? It's alwayst the coach in pro sports

not complaining, talking about hockey.........I see why the team is struggling give my opinion as to why. instead of an intelligent counter you just tell me to shut up.

if you think youi know hockey then tell me why youi think the team is struggling, I disagree with juliens coaching style, doesn't mean i dont' like the team

i have been to more game than u ever will be to and have spen over $100,000 in my lifetime on season tickets, so talk hockey and stop just telling me to zip it

and how do you know for a fact that the problem is Julien? maybe we don't have the talent to win games consistently when we are missing some players.

Here we go only 5 more goals.:teach:

They gave Niedermayer's number to a rookie?

barry tallackson wore it earlier this year too

These games suck. I'm not happy. But I've seen the Devils enough to know that the ship gets righted fairly quickly.

They gave Niedermayer's number to a rookie?

Who the hell is Niedermayer? :sarcasm:

Chico brought up a good point. I think they should keep Pelley and Clarkson for the Toronto game. The Leafs are just going to head hunt Elias and Madden if they come back. So keep Pelley and Clarkson out there so they can fight if they need to. And score a goal or two, like Clarkson showed today.

and how do you know for a fact that the problem is Julien? maybe we don't have the talent to win games consistently when we are missing some players.

I don't for sure, but I think we do have the talent and a great goalie.

elias/gomez gionta/parise and the best checking line in hockey, in my opinion there is enought talent

the way julien coaches puts no pressure on other teams, and since we can't upgrade talent at this point you have to look at the coach,

I guess this late in the season you have to roll with him; but this is not a gritty team, so it was good to see a little fire out there at the end today

Chico brought up a good point. I think they should keep Pelley and Clarkson for the Toronto game. The Leafs are just going to head hunt Elias and Madden if they come back. So keep Pelley and Clarkson out there so they can fight if they need to. And score a goal or two, like Clarkson showed today.

this team needs more toughness at forward so i am all for that move

not complaining, talking about hockey.........I see why the team is struggling give my opinion as to why. instead of an intelligent counter you just tell me to shut up.

if you think youi know hockey then tell me why youi think the team is struggling, I disagree with juliens coaching style, doesn't mean i dont' like the team

i have been to more game than u ever will be to and have spen over $100,000 in my lifetime on season tickets, so talk hockey and stop just telling me to zip it

Julien's coaching style is consistent with how the Devils have always played. Defense first. Get the lead and hold the lead.

Why is the team doing badly?

Because they're injured, burnt out, and are lacking some serious heart. They busted their ass all season, and have now hit some quicksand. Because they keep struggling and keep sinking. And now they are facing teams who are hungry for points. Desperate.

You blame Julien? His system and coaching style got us to 2nd in the conference. And to me, that is proof of how good of a coach he is. I mean what do you want from him?

Your not the first to come on here and start badmouthing individuals on this team. And thats one thing I can't stand is blaming individuals. Teams win and lose as a single entity. Its not Julien's fault the team is losing. His system is restricting them. They know what they have to do out there.

And I apologize for telling you to zip it. But I have been defending the coaching of this team for an entire season now. People always want a new coach, but then who would fill in eh? Who? How many coaches does this team need to go through? 3 a season? 2?

Oduya fought?!
Someone youtube it!

I vote for no afternoon games ever again! Change those two games at the end of the season to 7:30, please Lou!

Chico brought up a good point. I think they should keep Pelley and Clarkson for the Toronto game. The Leafs are just going to head hunt Elias and Madden if they come back. So keep Pelley and Clarkson out there so they can fight if they need to. And score a goal or two, like Clarkson showed today.

i dont think anything is going to happen against the leafs, maybe a fight between janssen and tucker thats bout it, because toronto is still fighting for a playoff spot. They wont do something stupid to miss the playoffs.

Julien's coaching style is consistent with how the Devils have always played. Defense first. Get the lead and hold the lead.

Why is the team doing badly?

Because they're injured, burnt out, and are lacking some serious heart. They busted their ass all season, and have now hit some quicksand. Because they keep struggling and keep sinking. And now they are facing teams who are hungry for points. Desperate.

You blame Julien? His system and coaching style got us to 2nd in the conference. And to me, that is proof of how good of a coach he is. I mean what do you want from him?

Your not the first to come on here and start badmouthing individuals on this team. And thats one thing I can't stand is blaming individuals. Teams win and lose as a single entity. Its not Julien's fault the team is losing. His system is restricting them. They know what they have to do out there.

And I apologize for telling you to zip it. But I have been defending the coaching of this team for an entire season now. People always want a new coach, but then who would fill in eh? Who? How many coaches does this team need to go through? 3 a season? 2?
It's not Julien's fault as a coach. It's Elias' as a Captain. Duh. ;)

i dont think anything is going to happen against the leafs, maybe a fight between janssen and tucker thats bout it, because toronto is still fighting for a playoff spot. They wont do something stupid to miss the playoffs.

Tucker would. Or Belak. They don't need those guys to win games.

No, it's all Janssen's fault.:sarcasm:

Julien's coaching style is consistent with how the Devils have always played. Defense first. Get the lead and hold the lead.

Why is the team doing badly?

Because they're injured, burnt out, and are lacking some serious heart. They busted their ass all season, and have now hit some quicksand. Because they keep struggling and keep sinking. And now they are facing teams who are hungry for points. Desperate.

You blame Julien? His system and coaching style got us to 2nd in the conference. And to me, that is proof of how good of a coach he is. I mean what do you want from him?

Your not the first to come on here and start badmouthing individuals on this team. And thats one thing I can't stand is blaming individuals. Teams win and lose as a single entity. Its not Julien's fault the team is losing. His system is restricting them. They know what they have to do out there.

And I apologize for telling you to zip it. But I have been defending the coaching of this team for an entire season now. People always want a new coach, but then who would fill in eh? Who? How many coaches does this team need to go through? 3 a season? 2?


I disagree, the devils have always had defense first mentality but his system is the extreme version where there is literally no forecheck, and don't forget we used to have better defensman that would challenge opposing forwards enteringour zone. so to say this is how the devils have always played it, is something i don't agree

maybe this loss is rock bottom and they will come around. If they come out against toronto flat then you know there are problems.

No, it's all Janssen's fault.:sarcasm:

its all your fault

tucker is an idiot, so you never know.

jv squad is now 1-1.

gotta say all things considered whatever happens in the post season, i am happy with devs this year. they have been clutch and really exciting. assuming elias, gomer [if he is back], and gionta had off years and can bounce back, then this team has a bright future.

I disagree, the devils have always had defense first mentality but his system is the extreme version where there is literally no forecheck, and don't forget we used to have better defensman that would challenge opposing forwards enteringour zone. so to say this is how the devils have always played it, is something i don't agree

maybe this loss is rock bottom and they will come around. If they come out against toronto flat then you know there are problems.

But then how do you explain our current place in the standings? Some fluke?

I am kind of hoping Gomez leaves. I do like him though. I am about 51/49 in favor of having him stay.

I disagree, the devils have always had defense first mentality but his system is the extreme version where there is literally no forecheck, and don't forget we used to have better defensman that would challenge opposing forwards enteringour zone. so to say this is how the devils have always played it, is something i don't agree

maybe this loss is rock bottom and they will come around. If they come out against toronto flat then you know there are problems.

Yeah if we lose that game the season is over.

I am kind of hoping Gomez leaves. I do like him though. I am about 51/49 in favor of having him stay.

Gomez is suffering without his line mates. He needs those guys badly.

But then how do you explain our current place in the standings? Some fluke?

no not a fluke, but a system that may work well during the regular season, but when teams are playing a more aggressive and intense style it seems to expose the weaknesses of our team more,,

and broduer was beyond great the first 60 games. so maybe i am wrong we will see but i think against playoff caliber intense hockey we will suffer, and the playoffs are all that matter

Gomez is suffering without his line mates. He needs those guys badly.

Yeah definitely. But he was with them for a good part of the season and he was still struggling. I guess I am just disappointed because this season is awful compared to what he did last season. He does set up a ton of our goals though. And he is the best neutral zone skater and puck handler we will ever have.

Yeah if we lose that game the season is over.

i take you are being sarcastic, but if you just lose at home 7-2 and then come out flat in the next came against a rival, you got issues. if you disagree with that you need to watch more hockey

one of my good friends was at the game today. Poor guy.

Yeah definitely. But he was with them for a good part of the season and he was still struggling. I guess I am just disappointed because this season is awful compared to what he did last season. He does set up a ton of our goals though. And he is the best neutral zone skater and puck handler we will ever have.

i think they should have used rupp on his wing instead of rasmussen in the meantime

i take you are being sarcastic, but if you just lose at home 7-2 and then come out flat in the next came against a rival, you got issues. if you disagree with that you need to watch more hockey

no I wasn't being sarcastic at all actually haha. A little exaggerated though. With a loss on Tuesday, we will definitely not win the division.

I am kind of hoping Gomez leaves. I do like him though. I am about 51/49 in favor of having him stay.

gomez is important to this team i wonder if has what it takes to lead a team though

i think they should have used rupp on his wing instead of rasmussen in the meantime

Yeah. Rupp created so many more chances. But Gomer Elias and Rass did well against the Canes on THursday

Yeah definitely. But he was with them for a good part of the season and he was still struggling. I guess I am just disappointed because this season is awful compared to what he did last season. He does set up a ton of our goals though. And he is the best neutral zone skater and puck handler we will ever have.

I beg to differ:D
See my sig

no not a fluke, but a system that may work well during the regular season, but when teams are playing a more aggressive and intense style it seems to expose the weaknesses of our team more,,

and broduer was beyond great the first 60 games. so maybe i am wrong we will see but i think against playoff caliber intense hockey we will suffer, and the playoffs are all that matter

I thought the game we played against Buffalo truely showed how the team would fare in playoffs.

But you're right. These games have a bit of a playoff quality to them. But right now its also hard to simply say: "the coach and his system are to blame!"

Especially when we have the injuries and lack of confidence we do now.

no I wasn't being sarcastic at all actually haha. A little exaggerated though. With a loss on Tuesday, we will definitely not win the division.


not even worried about that(division etc.) but you worry more about the mental state of the team going into playoffs

I beg to differ:D
See my sig

you don't have a sig.

you guys whine so much.

this season we have been witness to one of the greatest goaltending performances of all time, we have seen young stars on both D and O perform beyond our expectations, we have seen a team that historically can't erase a goal deficit do it in dramatic fashion many times, and yet some of you want the coach fired, the captain demoted and our best passer/stickhandler gone.

i am so happy none of you have a say in the team because you are freaking clueless!

I think they play better in front of large crowds. Like in Buffalo, I was at the game and it was so loud all the time and they played great. Maybe the lackluster CAA crowds are finally getting to them.

I thought the game we played against Buffalo truely showed how the team would fare in playoffs.

But you're right. These games have a bit of a playoff quality to them. But right now its also hard to simply say: "the coach and his system are to blame!"

Especially when we have the injuries and lack of confidence we do now.

yeah the buff game was good but there is no garuntee of health in the playoffs either.

believe me i want to be completely wrong and i hope they wake up and i lose all credibility.

These games suck. I'm not happy. But I've seen the Devils enough to know that the ship gets righted fairly quickly.

I agree. These games do suck. But they happen, and with an undermanned team, it's even more likely to happen. If this was a fully healthy team, I'd most defintely be upset. It was a poor effort for sure, but they will be fine once the healthy bodies start coming back.

I think they play better in front of large crowds. Like in Buffalo, I was at the game and it was so loud all the time and they played great. Maybe the lackluster CAA crowds are finally getting to them.

no there was actually a decent sized crowd at caa today although not loud because the game was lacking early

I just got home from my daughter's Tae Kwon Do tournament and what crap do I see....a 7-2 loss to the 'Canes. Someone please tell me that the Devils actually put up an effort?!?!?! By the official scoresheet on NHL.com...it didn't look like it.

Looked like Langenbrunner blew a gasket in the third.

I agree. These games do suck. But they happen, and with an undermanned team, it's even more likely to happen. If this was a fully healthy team, I'd most defintely be upset. It was a poor effort for sure, but they will be fine once the healthy bodies start coming back.

problem is its becoming somewhat of a pattern, not jsut one or two games

you guys whine so much.

this season we have been witness to one of the greatest goaltending performances of all time, we have seen young stars on both D and O perform beyond our expectations, we have seen a team that historically can't erase a goal deficit do it in dramatic fashion many times, and yet some of you want the coach fired, the captain demoted and our best passer/stickhandler gone.

i am so happy none of you have a say in the team because you are freaking clueless!

well, part of my reason for having our best passer/stickhandler gone is that he doesn't even seem like he wants to be here. I like guys that want to be on the team. They don't care just about the money. For example, Gionta. He turned down some big numbers last summer to wait for Lou to be able to offer him a contract. I like loyalty I guess.

and I am not trying to whine, I am actually happy about the loss.

I just got home from my daughter's Tae Kwon Do tournament and what crap do I see....a 7-2 loss to the 'Canes. Someone please tell me that the Devils actually put up an effort?!?!?! By the official scoresheet on NHL.com...it didn't look like it.

Looked like Langenbrunner blew a gasket in the third.

Yeah does anybody know what exactly Jamie did? I love the fact that he did though! :yo:

Looked like Langenbrunner blew a gasket in the third.
ya wut happen with Langs i saw Gomez getting a hooking penalty, i changed the station when i put the game back on we were killing a 5 on 3. What did Langs do?

yeah the buff game was good but there is no garuntee of health in the playoffs either.

believe me i want to be completely wrong and i hope they wake up and i lose all credibility.

Like I've been saying for the last week, I'm glad this is happening now instead of actually in playoffs... Think of it as Murphy's Law practice. :)

Again, apologies I snapped before. But sometimes it gets a bit tiring to hear the same arguments over and over again. Especially ones against our coaches. Because I kinda want Julien to stay for awhile, and maybe have some consistency in our coaching.

you don't have a sig.

I beg to differ:D
See my Avatar;)

gomez hasn't wanted to here for years now.

im not singling you out, after every loss the doomsdayers start complaining.

Like I've been saying for the last week, I'm glad this is happening now instead of actually in playoffs... Think of it as Murphy's Law practice. :)

Again, apologies I snapped before. But sometimes it gets a bit tiring to hear the same arguments over and over again. Especially ones against our coaches. Because I kinda want Julien to stay for awhile, and maybe have some consistency in our coaching.

no problem, yeah I never thought a little slump right before the playoffs is a bad thing. but they need to snap out of it soon. maybe a nice 7-2 loss at home will do the trick

gomez hasn't wanted to here for years now.

im not singling you out, after every loss the doomsdayers start complaining.

I dunno about that... But he said he wanted to go all the way with the team this year. We'll see. I like the guy though.

gomez hasn't wanted to here for years now.

im not singling you out, after every loss the doomsdayers start complaining.

that is why i am unique I was complaining after the win against carolina, you have to at least give me respect for that

gomez had been unhappy with his contract for years.

no problem, yeah I never thought a little slump right before the playoffs is a bad thing. but they need to snap out of it soon. maybe a nice 7-2 loss at home will do the trick

It also doesn't help that 30% of our goal production is out of the lineup (Elias, Gionta and Madden).

i don't know, they surprised me this year, the future looks bright.

It also doesn't help that 30% of our goal production is out of the lineup (Elias, Gionta and Madden).

elias/madden have missed 2 games

elias/madden have missed 2 games

Maybe I should have worded it that 30% of the teams total goal production is out of the lineup. Need to get those 3 guys back soonest.

Maybe I should have worded it that 30% of the teams total goal production is out of the lineup. Need to get those 3 guys back soonest.

of course that helps but this recent slump started long before they were injured

2nd period of toronto game to be exact.

at least we did not help the rangers cause today:handclap:

does anyone else think valerie plame is hot?

Once again, I am not worried? I'm not a doom and gloom type, i've watched this team through the years when them winning four in a month was huge news, a rough ride through a week doesn't phase me in the least. This team will pull it out, they will win the Divison.

I guess I'm not bi-polar enough to be a Devils fan.

Maybe Gionta is a bigger part of this team then some thought.

of course that helps but this recent slump started long before they were injured

2nd period of toronto game to be exact.

True...but having those guys out of the lineup doesn't help matters. Some of the new/young guys are going to have to grow up fast and step up. It's time for the new guys to take advantage of this opportunity and show the team and fans what they got.

This loss is over....water under the bridge now. Time to look ahead towards the next game and re-group.

:-) right you are...Rangers suck....


We need our guys back asap....I think that the play of last game and today showed one thing: The only real weakness this team has is, that everyone needs to be healthy and in good shape...If this is the case, Devils will compete...If one single piece of the puzzle misses... Goodbye :-(

Good to see that Jamie smashed his stick....I think we will see at least 150 percent of effort against the toronto maple blows......remember when we lost last time 8 1 against the sens....after that we went on a tear too :-) of course we won´t do that wiht our key guys out of the lineup...

Crap...I'm going to be stuck with that crappy Leafs feed for Tuesday night. Have to here Cowan and Neale whine everytime a Devils player hits a Leaf.

I don't for sure, but I think we do have the talent and a great goalie.

elias/gomez gionta/parise and the best checking line in hockey, in my opinion there is enought talent

the way julien coaches puts no pressure on other teams, and since we can't upgrade talent at this point you have to look at the coach,

I guess this late in the season you have to roll with him; but this is not a gritty team, so it was good to see a little fire out there at the end today


They couldn't score and lost in the first round with Burns coaching in 04, they couldn't score and lost in the second round with Lou coaching last season and they are likely to finish last in the conference in scoring this season, it's not the coaching. They have a total of 35 goals from all of the centers and a total of 17 goals from the defense. The team is too small and lacking in goal scoring down the middle. They aren't likely to get beyond the second round until they add a physical goal scorer to the top six forwards and a defenseman with a big point shot.

They couldn't score and lost in the first round with Burns coaching in 04, they couldn't score and lost in the second round with Lou coaching last season and they are likely to finish last in the conference in scoring this season, it's not the coaching. They have a total of 35 goals from all of the centers and a total of 17 goals from the defense. The team is too small and lacking in goal scoring down the middle. They aren't likely to get beyond the second round until they add a physical goal scorer to the top six forwards and a defenseman with a big point shot.

What about 03?

we lost and staal had 0g 0a even +/-...:shakehead :shakehead :shakehead :shakehead :shakehead :shakehead

They couldn't score and lost in the first round with Burns coaching in 04, they couldn't score and lost in the second round with Lou coaching last season and they are likely to finish last in the conference in scoring this season, it's not the coaching. They have a total of 35 goals from all of the centers and a total of 17 goals from the defense. The team is too small and lacking in goal scoring down the middle. They aren't likely to get beyond the second round until they add a physical goal scorer to the top six forwards and a defenseman with a big point shot.

Yes but its hard to score when the defensman do not attemp to keep any pucks in the offensive zone, hence it's seems its always 2 on 4 in the offensive zone makes it tough for guys to rack up pts.

but basically we are agreeing here, i just want to point out why they don't score

does anyone else think valerie plame is hot?

Yes.:naughty:

Maybe Gionta is a bigger part of this team then some thought.

he's a huge part. can't wait until he is healthy

gomez had been unhappy with his contract for years.



That's not true. The first time he went to arbitration I think it was he was happy with what he got and this time he was happy because it was over what Lou was offering.

you don't go to arbitration because you are happy with the teams offers.

you don't go to arbitration because you are happy with the teams offers.

That wasn't his point. He said he was happy because he got what he wanted in arbitration. It also isn't smart to play like this when you want to get a big contract in free agency. Therefor I doubt his contract has anything to do with his play.

I'm not going to go into a doom and gloom mode and I'm not as worried about scoring. However, what does worry me is the ease teams skate through our neutral zone and the amount of time they spend in our offensive zone cycling, while we chase.

And are we still playing a trapping game? Because whatever system we're using is not working real well.

I also agree that Julien must allow the defense to get more involved in the teams offense or we'll be in trouble.

And sorry Doc, but what a poor excuse using yesterday's storm for the poor attendance. I was out early this morning and it wasn't bad at all. The Devils can't get out of that building soon enough. There's no energy at all in that place, it's one big tomb. I was even embarrassed by today's crowd, I mean come on now, a Saturday afternoon game for crying out loud. Every other arena that I see on television seems to be full except for ours.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=befv8RNCHf4

Not today's fight. But an old Oduya vs. Horcoff fight.

you don't go to arbitration because you are happy with the teams offers.



Yeah once the contract ended Scott had better stats so he wanted more money. When his contract was awarded he was happy with it. But since he had better stats he wanted more. I don't remember what Lou offered it might be in the Gomez arbitration thread but he was happy with what he got because it was more than Lou was offering and I think he only offered a one year deal (not 100% sure on that I don't remember). I don't know why he doesn't have the same stats as last year it could be Juliens style (I'm not blaming Julien) or last year was a fluke but I don't think it was minus his goal total because the goals were a fluke.

I was out for most of the day, and when I come back we lose 7-2? What the hell happened? Did we just not show up? Or did Marty have a bad game? And apparently, Langenbrunner flipped his lid in the third, whats the deal with him?

Anyways, good to see Clarkson with a goal and an assist.

I was out for most of the day, and when I come back we lose 7-2? What the hell happened? Did we just not show up? Or did Marty have a bad game?



Both. They probably celebrated St. Patricks Day a little early. If they did it wouldn't be the first time they got too confident.