The Ultimate Ducks v. Oilers Game Thread

Game On tonight. And please, do NOT mention a certain you know who. I think we are all tired of talking about a player who doesn't even play for us. Everything else is fair game.

I think Jiggy is in net tonight but not sure.

5 pm pst KCAL 9

4-1 Oilers.

Carney,Ozolinsh,Niedermayer still out??

Yep. And Jiggy in net. Recipe for disaster.

4-1 Oilers.

The Oilers allowing only one goal? It'll be amazing if they allow only one power play goal. 4-3 for the Oil, with 2 PP goals from the Ducks.

well here's the thing..
Oilers PK sucks...so i hope this allows us to practice our PP and get some goals on net...
i'll be at the game in the nose bleed seats...

well here's the thing..
Oilers PK sucks...so i hope this allows us to practice our PP and get some goals on net...
i'll be at the game in the nose bleed seats...

The probablility that the Ducks will work hard enough to draw lots of penalties is very low.

If they don't quadruple their effort tonight, it's going to be ugly.

well i dont know how the ducks do on consecutive games but this one is at home and i wanna say a win but i said that last night going into sj and not even close...lets hope for the best and they come out strong

The probablility that the Ducks will work hard enough to draw lots of penalties is very low.

If they don't quadruple their effort tonight, it's going to be ugly.
They played badly last night?aside from the late stupid penalties they played very well...Nabakov stopped many good scoring opps I don't know which game you watched last night.

The probablility that the Ducks will work hard enough to draw lots of penalties is very low.

If they don't quadruple their effort tonight, it's going to be ugly.
We're bound to take stupid penalties thus giving the Ducks the PP... you set up on the oilers, you score. I'm not sure who's in net tonight for the oil, but if it's Salo and you guys get a few PP's, you'll win.

I predict 3-2 anaheim.

Any word on any ducks or Oilers that may be out of the line-up with the "flu".

They played badly last night?aside from the late stupid penalties they played very well...Nabakov stopped many good scoring opps I don't know which game you watched last night.

Yes they did play bad.
Nabokov was ok...but I really didn't think the Ducks created enough good scoring chances. The Lupul to Federov pass and a Lupul rebound shot was about it for really good chances. Maybe Chistov's shot...but then again he has zero goals so I dont know if thats a good scoring chance.

Ducks have to work harder to create scoring chances.

Popovic has been called up today, maybe we will see him in his first NHL game. He could get the nod over ward or if sauer is injured.

Andy Mac taps in an easy goal off a weird bounce. He went to the net and got reward, albeit a flukish goal, but good things happen when you go to the net. Maybe some of the other guys will realize this and follow his lead.

Edit: Burnett gets his first NHL point, good for him.

Feds and Rooch in the box for a 5 on 3 for more than a minute and half this could be ugly.

Ducks kill it off. Giggy made some good saves there when they were needed, a very good kill without our top 2 defensive forwards.

Dad changes channel, Oilers score while hes watching ESPN, bad karma caused by my dad. :mad:

Edit: I seem to be the only one watching the game. :dunno:

Horcoff scores with a kicking motion this shouldnt count. IMO.

Its questionable cause it hit off Salei but the goal is waived off, a break for us.

Horcoff scores with a kicking motion this shouldnt count. IMO.

It pains me to say it, but it should be a goal, he didn't kick it directly into the net. It went off other players

It pains me to say it, but it should be a goal, he didn't kick it directly into the net. It went off other players


Yeah I see it hit off Salei, didnt see it in live action, a break for us.

Ducks survived the 1st period, Oilers have quite a lead in shots but thats due to the PPs, Giguere has looked pretty good this period.

Chimera rockets one by Giggy. 2-1 Oil. This team needs to wake up and play with some desperation.

Sykora one times a Fedorov pass past Conkin on the PP to begin the 3rd to tie it at 2.

Free M*** C*****! Viva la Revolucion! (Sorry, Jerky)

Holmqvist has earned some more time with the big club. I'd send Johnson down before I sent him back.

It pains me to say it, but it should be a goal, he didn't kick it directly into the net. It went off other players

Actually, according to the Oilers radio announcers, rule 70b states that a puck that goes into the net by a kicking motion and deflecting off a player, goalkeeper or official is not a goal. So I hate to say it, but it was a good call.

Well, that sucked.

3-2..... :mad:

3-2..... :mad:

Havelid a -3 that game.

Yup, this team just isn't coming together for whatever reason. It's not a skill problem, and unlike Babcock I don't even think it's an effort problem. Things simply aren't clicking.

They're good enough to just keep hovering around .500 the rest of the year, but I see no reason to think they'll be going on a tear at any point.

well i just got abck from the game.. Jiggy sucks.. both teams looked tired..
Fedorov and Sykora were the only guys playing...
we lucked out on 2 other goals that were disallowed..
BURNETTS REALLY SUCKS!~! 2 opportunities to get 2 goals and couldn't produce.. my friends were making fun of him... saying that Babcock/Murray need to hire real hockey players... 'nuff said...

Yup, this team just isn't coming together for whatever reason. It's not a skill problem, and unlike Babcock I don't even think it's an effort problem. Things simply aren't clicking.

They're good enough to just keep hovering around .500 the rest of the year, but I see no reason to think they'll be going on a tear at any point.

At this point, I'm watching games without any expectations, enjoying the good stuff when it comes. Maybe that's why I'm more encouraged by the last two games despite the losses. We've played some dominant hockey for stretches at a time, looking more comfortable at a faster game pace, which is something I haven't seen a lot of this year.

The team needs to just keep plugging, keep working on the problems they have, tweak the roster where it needs to be tweaked, hopefully finish with a record good enough to make the playoffs and (again) hopefully have everything clicking by then. The odds aren't good, but it's still possible.

Havelid you just earned another healthy scratch.

Burnett first NHL Point. :joker:

Burnett does what he is supposed to do and plays up to his ability...I'm not complaining about him...Havelid though is playing far below his own ability...I dont know whats wrong with him...

Burnett:

4.11 icetime, 0+1, +/- 0, 2 SOG and no penalties.

More points than all other forwards except Fedorov, Andy Mac and Sykora.

More shots on goal than Rucchin, Prospal, Johnson, Krog, Lupul, Pahlsson, Ward

So he had couple of scoring chances and didn't get goals, so what?

Very good game from Burnett but not surprisingly he will still get blasted here.

I'll complain that he missed a wide open net in a crucial situation. I'll complain because 99% of the players in the NHL would have converted that. I'll complain that this entire team is unbearable.

I'll complain that he missed a wide open net in a crucial situation. I'll complain because 99% of the players in the NHL would have converted that. I'll complain that this entire team is unbearable.
exactly... while at the game he also missed a clear pass to him that he swung at the air.. if he would have connected it would have gone in. my friend that came with me, oiler fans, were laughing and making fun of him...
well hopefully we get the next couple of wins to bring us back in the race..

At this point, I'm watching games without any expectations, enjoying the good stuff when it comes. Maybe that's why I'm more encouraged by the last two games despite the losses. We've played some dominant hockey for stretches at a time, looking more comfortable at a faster game pace, which is something I haven't seen a lot of this year.

The team needs to just keep plugging, keep working on the problems they have, tweak the roster where it needs to be tweaked, hopefully finish with a record good enough to make the playoffs and (again) hopefully have everything clicking by then. The odds aren't good, but it's still possible.
Why would you be encouraged by a team that could dominate but chooses not to? This team is embarassing.

Why would you be encouraged by a team that could dominate but chooses not to? This team is embarassing.

Saying that they "choose not to" is misleading, unless you're actually spending time in the Duck dressing room. I don't have any doubts that they want to win. Something obviously isn't working, but I don't think it's desire. I think they're just not finding that groove enough where everyone is on the same page. Even with Simpson and Ward back there, there were moments where the passing was crisp and we were hitting players in stride, entering the offensive zone with speed and putting the other team on their heels. We're just not doing it often enough.

I hope the Comrie deal is either happening soon or else is off, so we can get to work making changes that we need to make. The longer we wait, the deeper a hole we dig for ourselves.

Burnett does what he is supposed to do

The last 3 games against 2 of the "premier enforcers" in the West and not a single fight. Makes me wonder, yet again, why we need this guy. Yeah I know, Ward would have a cracked head by now... there's no way he could take the punishment Burnett does.

Oh wait, I just noticed Laraque was a healthy scratch so make that no fights against Parker. I guess he was too busy scoring a goal to fight.


and plays up to his ability...

That's the point... he has NO ability.

Havelid you just earned another healthy scratch.


Not with all the injuries we have back there.

Saying that they "choose not to" is misleading, unless you're actually spending time in the Duck dressing room. I don't have any doubts that they want to win. Something obviously isn't working, but I don't think it's desire. I think they're just not finding that groove enough where everyone is on the same page.

Oh. You'd rather the problem be a cliche that they could work through? We get amongst the fewest power plays in the league because (poor officiating notwithstanding) no one has to take a penalty to stop our attack. We don't go to the front of the net, if the easy play isn't there then we don't make a play.

Our guys are frustrated, which is the exact wrong attitude. Frustrated means you're annoyed at how difficult a thing is, meaning you wish the price wasn't so high, meaning they're not willing to do the things that need to be done. They haven't accepted it. Every once in a while they do. Then we dominate as a team with our talent should. Otherwise they look pretty, but they're ineffective. That's a crime. The coach and the captain aren't motivating anybody to play their best, and on the flip side, 7-figure paychecks should make motivation much easier. I don't have any fun watching the team this year. I don't care if they never win as long as they try, if they act like they want it. They'd be something I could be proud of. These guys...they offend me with how they loaf, and their pseudo-contrite quotes about all the screwups in the paper the next day. That just adds to the "just trying to look good" persona.

The problem isn't a cliche. 30 games is a long time to synchronize your efforts as a group. Unless the effort, individually and as a group, is inconsistent and subpar.

Another Ducks game, another Ducks loss. :shakehead

I don't profess to have answers but last night's game was extremely difficult to watch...it seemed every time I was about to get my hopes up for a nice opportunity, a pass went off a skate or flipped over a stick, or someone skated in offsides...etc...the 2-1 with Andy Mac and Feds should have been a goal...the Burnett open net should have been a goal...and there were other offsides and puck jumping over the stick opportunities that had a decent chance to be converted...this team is excrucuatingly painful to watch right now

I don't profess to have answers but last night's game was extremely difficult to watch...it seemed every time I was about to get my hopes up for a nice opportunity, a pass went off a skate or flipped over a stick, or someone skated in offsides...etc...the 2-1 with Andy Mac and Feds should have been a goal...the Burnett open net should have been a goal...and there were other offsides and puck jumping over the stick opportunities that had a decent chance to be converted...this team is excrucuatingly painful to watch right now
well i wouldn't say painful, but last night they had a lot of chances were they got called for offsides... i 100% agree on that.. they would have an oddman rush and the whistle would blow.. everyone at the pond would boo the refs...
both teams looked exhausted...

Jiggy sucks

I didnt think Giguere played that bad actually. The 2nd goal he could have stopped but on the other 2 his defense didnt do a good job. He held us in for most of the game and our guys couldnt take advantage of it.

i cant watch the games on tv but watching the highlights during the intermission of the hawks/stars game..that goal that was behind the net of gigger was kinda like what happened there...he should of had the slap shot..3-2 game isnt a bad game for giggy but its not a win and he needs to get a win to get something going...

Oh. You'd rather the problem be a cliche that they could work through?

Read my post again. That's TWO cliches, my fine Booger-y friend. And yes, I'd rather have it be a problem with chemistry than a problem with desire. Mostly for aesthetic reasons, but also because I think chemistry is more likely to get fixed than desire.

We get amongst the fewest power plays in the league because (poor officiating notwithstanding) no one has to take a penalty to stop our attack. We don't go to the front of the net, if the easy play isn't there then we don't make a play.

True, and I think I've been saying "crash the net" all year long.

Our guys are frustrated, which is the exact wrong attitude. Frustrated means you're annoyed at how difficult a thing is, meaning you wish the price wasn't so high, meaning they're not willing to do the things that need to be done.

I'll buy that to some extent. I'm not sure the guys can help being frustrated, though. It's one thing to say it's the wrong attitude, but after umpteen games where nothing has been working, it's very easy to get down.

They have crashed and banged for periods at a time only to get robbed by the goalie. The second game against San Jose was a prime example of that. That has to be frustrating as well.

But damned few players on this team are natural net-crashers, which is part of the problem. It's not their game, and asking them to adjust and make it part of their game is easier said than done.

The problem isn't a cliche. 30 games is a long time to synchronize your efforts as a group. Unless the effort, individually and as a group, is inconsistent and subpar.

Thirty games isn't THAT long. There have been teams that look great one year, inexplicably crash the next and then resume their good play the year after.

I agree that the effort is inconsistent, and I've been saying that for a while as well. It occurs to me now though that our talent can't consistently succeed without supreme effort night after night, something that damned few teams are capable of.

I didnt think Giguere played that bad actually. The 2nd goal he could have stopped but on the other 2 his defense didnt do a good job. He held us in for most of the game and our guys couldnt take advantage of it.
the 3rd shot he clearly could have stopped as well.. plus we lucked out that 2 goals were dismissed..

The Oilers made Jigger look pretty silly on that first goal (the behind the net job). He was so out of position on that one, it's not even funny.

Not with all the injuries we have back there.

agreed but with a break until friday I'm hoping Ozolinsh and Carney will be healthy for Colorado...and Havelid can have his well earned healthy scratch.

The last 3 games against 2 of the "premier enforcers" in the West and not a single fight. Makes me wonder, yet again, why we need this guy. Yeah I know, Ward would have a cracked head by now... there's no way he could take the punishment Burnett does.

Oh wait, I just noticed Laraque was a healthy scratch so make that no fights against Parker. I guess he was too busy scoring a goal to fight.




That's the point... he has NO ability.

He doesn't have to fight Parker if Parker doesn't want to fight either. I can't explain why they didn't fight. He is there to cancel out Parker...and as long as Parker didn't go around throwing big or dirty hits on us then Burnett did his job.

I dont disagree about his ability, thats why I never get angry about Burnett. But when a talented player like Havelid plays like crap for at least 10 straight games then I get angry.