Interesting Scenario ~ Need Help With Answer

The Mad Crapper
03-11-2007, 03:24 PM
Based on the Gionta & White situation, how does it work for qualifying for Injured Reserve? Is it possible that can pro-rate the time already used for their injuries?

I'm thinking that the Devils can't afford to rush Gio back. In addition, we really do need Colin White close to 100% by playoff time as well. So, my thinking is this:

If they can pro-rate and/or find a way to put White & Gionta on IR (until the playoffs) if Matvichuk is ready, have him start playing on Wednesday. If he's not ready to go...could they call up McGillis?

Same applies to Gio’s replacement…I would also call up Clarkson.

Please chime in with your thoughts on how the IR process works and/or if you agree/disagree with what I'm saying. Thanks!

crashlanding
03-11-2007, 03:31 PM
If Gionta didn't play earlier he would have qualified by now, however when he played that half a game the clock started over again. Basically, to qualify for LTIR you need to have a real injury and miss at least ten games.

AfroThunder396
03-11-2007, 03:33 PM
I'm, not sure if I'd be willing to sacrifice White and Gionta for the last 12 games, especially since were so close to winning the conference. If I was garanteed that Matvichuk would be 100% with no rust, and Clarkson was even half as good as some here make him out to be, then yes. But we have big games comming up against Pittsburgh, Buffalo and 2 against a hungry Islander team, 2 against the desperate Hurricanes, and if we want to get the conference we'll need our best players.

The Mad Crapper
03-11-2007, 03:33 PM
But if its the same injury from earlier...they don't pro-rate it? I ask because with all the days combined, its over 10 days already & he'll probably be out for another 2-3 IMO - just to be on the safe side.

The Mad Crapper
03-11-2007, 03:36 PM
I'm, not sure if I'd be willing to sacrifice White and Gionta for the last 12 games, especially since were so close to winning the conference. If I was garanteed that Matvichuk would be 100% with no rust, and Clarkson was even half as good as some here make him out to be, then yes. But we have big games comming up against Pittsburgh, Buffalo and 2 more against a hungry Islander team, and if we want to get the conference we'll need our best players.

I agree, but I also wouldn't want to rush back Gio or White & not have them at all for the playoffs.

To me, we're in the playoffs already. The conference win would be nice. But I'd rather have those players back 100% for the playoffs.

devildan
03-11-2007, 03:40 PM
But if its the same injury from earlier...they don't pro-rate it? I ask because with all the days combined, its over 10 days already & he'll probably be out for another 2-3 IMO - just to be on the safe side.

Its 10 games not days. And no, they have to be consecutivly missed. You could put them on the LTIR retroactive to their last GP a few days down the line but then we wouldnt get them back until a minimum of 10 games.

Colin Whites Eye
03-11-2007, 04:04 PM
STOP bringing up calling up mcgillis. its NOT going to happen, unless like 2-3 more of our defenseman get injured. the dude is awful

The Mad Crapper
03-11-2007, 04:15 PM
STOP bringing up calling up mcgillis. its NOT going to happen, unless like 2-3 more of our defenseman get injured. the dude is awful

Awful or not, you'd rather us burn out our D-men by playing only 5 of them for heavy minutes game in & game out?

You gotta think long term for the playoffs.

The Mad Crapper
03-11-2007, 04:16 PM
Its 10 games not days. And no, they have to be consecutivly missed. You could put them on the LTIR retroactive to their last GP a few days down the line but then we wouldnt get them back until a minimum of 10 games.

Thanks. I kinda thought they had to be consecutive.

Colin Whites Eye
03-11-2007, 05:03 PM
Awful or not, you'd rather us burn out our D-men by playing only 5 of them for heavy minutes game in & game out?

You gotta think long term for the playoffs.







its obviously not going to continue, or else lou would have done something about it

everything will fall into place, and dan mcgillis will never play another game with the devils. thats just how it is

David Puddy
03-11-2007, 05:26 PM
It's at least twenty-four (24) calendar days and ten (10) NHL Regular Season games.

crashlanding
03-11-2007, 05:32 PM
It's at least twenty-four (24) calendar days and ten (10) NHL Regular Season games.
10 games is usually 24 days in the season...

David Puddy
03-11-2007, 06:02 PM
10 games is usually 24 days in the season...It could be a little more, or it could be a little. However, 24 days is part of the requirement.

For Example, the Devils played ten games between March 2 and March 22, that's 21 calendar days.

crashlanding
03-11-2007, 06:05 PM
It could be a little more, or it could be a little. However, 24 days is part of the requirement.

For Example, the Devils played ten games between March 2 and March 22, that's 21 calendar days.
At that point though you'd have to count the days before March 2 and after March 22 that the Devils don't have a game. Assuming the player was injured in the game before March 2 and won't be activated until the game after March 22.

devilsfan30
03-11-2007, 07:39 PM
devils can afford to play without gionta with brylin/rupp taking shifts on the 1st line but they need white and can't afford to play with only 5 d-men every game.

what happened to alex brooks? is he hurt?

The Mad Crapper
03-11-2007, 08:38 PM
Brooks was injured, but should be back soon. If not this week, I would believe the next.

Which is fine with me, but I would rather get Matvichuk in for the required 1 game so that he's eligible to play in the playoffs.

Does anyone know Wiemer's health status? Is he done for this season & his career with the Devils?

sundstrom32*
03-11-2007, 09:59 PM
Awful or not, you'd rather us burn out our D-men by playing only 5 of them for heavy minutes game in & game out?

You gotta think long term for the playoffs.

I agree can't play 5 defensman too long, you risk them getting injured and burned out, bring up a pylon if they have to put something

devilsfan30
03-11-2007, 10:26 PM
I agree can't play 5 defensman too long, you risk them getting injured and burned out, bring up a pylon if they have to put something
did lou HAVE TO get rid of hale at the deadline? cause devils could have still be fine at the moment with rafalski - martin, lukowich - oduya, hale - greene

Colin Whites Eye
03-12-2007, 01:13 AM
im pretty sure we would be over the cap with hale AND greene both playing

devilsfan30
03-12-2007, 01:15 AM
hale and greene played together a few games earlier this season

Colin Whites Eye
03-12-2007, 01:29 AM
yes, but im pretty sure White (or someone) was on LTIR


greene makes 850k

devilsfan30
03-12-2007, 01:37 AM
couldn't recall anyone on LTIR except matvichuk, brooks, wiemer...

Colin Whites Eye
03-12-2007, 01:53 AM
im almost positive white was definitely on the LTIR at one point this season

devilsfan30
03-12-2007, 01:59 AM
have the devils played 1 defenseman short excluding the last 2 games?

crashlanding
03-12-2007, 12:07 PM
couldn't recall anyone on LTIR except matvichuk, brooks, wiemer...
We sent Janssen down. If we kept Hale we wouldn't have room for Greene...there's a reason why we only had 18 and 19 players dressed the last two games.

devilsfan30
03-12-2007, 02:04 PM
hmm which guy on the IR or who's out right now was preventing the devils from playing with 20?

The Mad Crapper
03-16-2007, 12:36 AM
I guess I answered my own thread from days ago with what happened tonight with Gionta going on IR.