Chris Simon Gets 22 Games

How does Janssen get 3 for a hit which, legal or not, is part of hockey, but this guy gets 22 games for assaulting a guy in a way that simply does not belong in sports, period?

What an absolute disgrace.

Like it or not, the resulting injury and the caliber of player that was injured does play a factor in the suspension decision.

I don't have much of a problem with either to be honest.

I do. Assaulting a guy with a stick isn't throwing a body check, or an elbow. It's blatantly using a weapon to injure someone.

I honestly think he shouldn't be allowed to play in the league again, especially with his priors.

I don't have much of a problem with either to be honest.

Agree.

Personally, I feel 22 games is not enough. I'd say throw guys who do that out of the NHL for a year.

Should put rumor in the topic title now since it is unconfirmed.

I got it from TSN. Unless they jumped the gun

edit: Now they changed it and said its still undecided. but they did have a story that said 22 games. 15 for the season and 7 playoff

Hollweg hits Simon from behind into the boards, typical Hollweg, Simon whacks him in the face with his stick. As long as the NHL tries to remove fighting from the game this stuff will continue. I would rather Simon just dropped his gloves and asked Hollweg to go. And in a perfect world Hollweg would have accepted, taken a good beating, and both players would have sat for 5. But players of that ilk won't go and the refs protect them so the offended player takes a more dangerous measure. In my opinion the swing looked worse than it was. He hit him with the shaft of the stick, close to the hands, not the heel like that when Mcsorley hit Brashear. Anything more than 10 games is too much.

Hollweg hits Simon from behind into the boards, typical Hollweg, Simon whacks him in the face with his stick. As long as the NHL tries to remove fighting from the game this stuff will continue. I would rather Simon just dropped his gloves and asked Hollweg to go. And in a perfect world Hollweg would have accepted, taken a good beating, and both players would have sat for 5. But players of that ilk won't go and the refs protect them so the offended player takes a more dangerous measure. In my opinion the swing looked worse than it was. He hit him with the shaft of the stick, close to the hands, not the heel like that when Mcsorley hit Brashear. Anything more than 10 games is too much.

Come on.. There's no way you can defend Simon in this case.. Even as much as i hate Hollweg and the Rangers, if Hollweg hit the guy in the throat who would have know how severe it would have been..

I'm all for fighting and physical play but swinging a stick to a guys face has no place in this sport

http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=199575&hubname=nhl

IDK where you heard 22 games from, TSN hasn't heard a thing and they're usually one of the first people to hear anything about hockey because they're Canadian.

Simon's actions are no way professional like in the NHL.
It was totally uncalled for.
It was like he had intentions to kill. :rant:

http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=199575&hubname=nhl

IDK where you heard 22 games from, TSN hasn't heard a thing and they're usually one of the first people to hear anything about hockey because they're Canadian.

It was on there earlier. They've since taken it down, but it was up earlier this morning because I wouldn't have posted otherwise.

It was on there earlier. They've since taken it down, but it was up earlier this morning because I wouldn't have posted otherwise.

I'll take your word on it. Probably a rumor they posted then tooked it down. We'll probably hear an "official" story by Monday.

Yeah, I wouldn't have reacted if I didn't think it was official. A friend IMed me and had said he read that on the ticker on ESPN News. So I checked ESPN and there was nothing, went to TSN and right on the front page it said SIMON GETS 22 GAMES in big Maple Leaf blue print.

The article was small and generic so i figured it was useless to C&P it or post the link because it basically just said the games, and then a short summary of the incident.

Oh well, I'm glad its not true, I hope its a lot more severe.

How does Janssen get 3 for a hit which, legal or not, is part of hockey, but this guy gets 22 games for assaulting a guy in a way that simply does not belong in sports, period?

What an absolute disgrace.
I'm not sure how you can really compare the two. One is a body check that happened at an unnessecary or inappropriate time. The other was a blatant slash to the head. They are two completely different incidents that happened under two very different circumstances. You can't really say 'Well if Janssen got 3 then Simon should get XX games.' These are about as two uncomparable circumstances as you can get.

By the way, I feel Simon should get AT LEAST the remainder of the season and playoffs PLUS +30 games next season. This sort of of behavior is COMPLETELY unnacceptable in any sport. I wish Bettman and the NHL would have enough balls to stand up and get this sort of thing out of the game.

I don't understand how everything anyone says by putting two things together becomes an actual comparison. Especially when I blatantly state the contrasting situations. I understand this is a message board of very strong opinions but christ its ridiculous how quick people are to jump into arguing.

All I was saying was what Janssen did was a result of a hockey play, whereas what Simon did was outright assault. Both were suspend-able offenses, right? So in that sense they are comparable. And with how greatly they were different in both severity I felt 22 games was (and would be if it were the case) far too minor.

So put away the guns and get off your high horse, your first paragraph was completely unnecessary. And the latter part, I absolutely do agree with.

I don't understand how everything anyone says by putting two things together becomes an actual comparison. Especially when I blatantly state the contrasting situations. I understand this is a message board of very strong opinions but christ its ridiculous how quick people are to jump into arguing.

All I was saying was what Janssen did was a result of a hockey play, whereas what Simon did was outright assault. Both were suspend-able offenses, right? So in that sense they are comparable. And with how greatly they were different in both severity I felt 22 games was (and would be if it were the case) far too minor.

So put away the guns and get off your high horse, your first paragraph was completely unnecessary. And the latter part, I absolutely do agree with.
Woah, calm down there. I wasn't trying to insult you. I was just stating that they were two very different situtions. I 100% agree, 22 games is no where near enough for Simon. But I don't think you can compare the two suspensions because they were so difference.

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by 'get off your high horse', but being combative isn't going to help your cause. I stated my opinion, you stated yours. I wasn't arguing like you stated, I was explaining why I didn't agree. I didn't insult you or flame you, so whats deal?

I'm not going to argue semantics with you but in saying what you did you insinuated I was comparing the situations when I was just using the two to exemplify my thoughts of what I thought to have been a mere 22 game suspension.

I very succinctly said that they were different, and exactly why they were different, but why one is 3 games which seemed excessive to me, and the other 22 when one was undoubtedly a blatant attempt to injure.

It's the way you came off, and still are. I believe, to say the least, you're completely misconstruing what I said and turning it into your point when its not relevant.

I don't see how you think I'm actually comparing them as situations as much as I was saying the number of games involved certainly were not reflective of the actions which were punished.

I just think in that case 15 + the equivalent to a full 7 game playoff series is ridiculous when Cam gets 3 games for a check. (to reiterate again) This is a guy that did something some might consider criminal, and if the Islanders manage to pull if off he'd still be eligible to play in a late-series or the Stanley Cup finals if they made it. Thats the principle which pissed me off.

Cams actions were questionable, this guys were borderline criminal. Hopefully you see what I mean now. I don't think they're the same, which is why I even said that. Also I'm not trying to argue just explain what I meant originally, and by that post as well.

Also, TSN took down the article, maybe the Toronto media got their hands on this one too, since its "THEIR" sport. :sarcasm:

I don't see how you think I'm actually comparing them as situations as much as I was saying the number of games involved certainly were not reflective of the actions which were punished.

I just think in that case 15 + the equivalent to a full 7 game playoff series is ridiculous when Cam gets 3 games for a check. (to reiterate again) This is a guy that did something some might consider criminal, and if the Islanders manage to pull if off he'd still be eligible to play in a late-series or the Stanley Cup finals if they made it. Thats the principle which pissed me off.

Cams actions were questionable, this guys were borderline criminal. Hopefully you see what I mean now. I don't think they're the same, which is why I even said that. Also I'm not trying to argue just explain what I meant originally, and by that post as well.
Ok, I thought you were trying to say 'Janssen got 3 games so Simon should get XX'. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Anyways, I think we can both agree that Simon should not see any more games this year and should miss significant time next year.

yeah it's all good, and I absolutely agree.

But like it was said above, because of who it was and what happened before it they might not frown upon it as much as we all believe they should. It's not right, but its possible they might see it that way.

Jiri Bicek... In no way am I defending Simons' hit on Hollweg. My point was that the NHL in it's rush to eliminate fighting will foster an environment where players will commit vicious and dangerous acts, like the hits from behind into the boards and the forearm shivers to the head, and go relatively unpunished (see the Pens Armstrongs' hit on Lukowich). In the old NHL the players policed themselves. Now you can hit and hide. Quite frankly I'm suprised more of this stuff hasn't happened. And if you really wan't to injure someone, spear them. To me that's the worst thing you can do.

It's officially the remainder of the regular season and all of the playoffs, with a minimum of ten game requirement. Should the Islanders not play in ten games in the playoffs, Simon will makeup the difference at the start of the 2007-08 regular season.

Here's a link to NHL.com's article (http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?articleid=290330&page=NewsPage&service=page).

One interesting thing that came out of the result of that game is the fact the Devils clinched the Tri-State area regular season unofficial championship. The Islanders can only reach 20 Points in their four remaining games against the Devils and Rangers, which is one less than the Devils have earned.

TEAM|PTS|GR
Devils|21|2
Islanders|12|4
Rangers|12|2