Gomez

What are the chances that Gomez hits the UFA market? Will Lou get him resigned? What's your take? How much money will he get?

I think he would be a perfect fit for the Phoenix Coyotes and if he does hit UFA the Yotes will go all out to sign him.

i think he will definetely test the market. i think there is zero chance that pheonix gets him.

I would say 55% chance of him staying. I know he was leaning towards staying ealier so that 55% is just a guess. But If he does test the UFA market he will most likely sign with a contender.

If the additional cap space is true, I think that increases our chances of keeping him, plus I really think he enjoys playing here.

I would say 55% chance of him staying. I know he was leaning towards staying ealier so that 55% is just a guess. But If he does test the UFA market he will most likely sign with a contender.

The stability and success of Devils org. will be tough to leave, Gomez seems to really like his teammates and everyone likes winning. The chances of Gomez staying are even higher if Lou is willing to give Gomez no trade/movement clause like he did Elias. The Rangers offered Elias more money, but Sather is dead set against NTCs.

i think the opposite. i think he has always felt that he is underpaid and will leave this time around.

I think he is going to stay. He loves playing here, and wants to play in the new building. In all seriousness, I know there are teams dumb enough to cough up 6-7 mil, like the flyers (unless they sign 4zberg) Lou would love to keep him, but knows he wont be able to match with our cap situation.

I think he is going to stay. He loves playing here, and wants to play in the new building.




That's true too I forgot about that. I know his dad has been showing off the arena video to some people. I think he's going to stay too but anything can happen. He's supposed to have a golf tournament up here in I think June and I guess a bunch of the team is coming up.

I have the same feeling with him as I did with Niedermayer. I hope I am wrong. Of course, what the hell do I know about what he wants to do with his life?

He wants to play for a contender.

No offense, but if he leaves the Devils I don't think it would be for the 'Yotes. And I think there's a pretty decent chance that he stays here in Jersey.

i still stand by the jaded deal. i feel he goes to a CA team. he has lots of family there.

No offense, but if he leaves the Devils I don't think it would be for the 'Yotes. And I think there's a pretty decent chance that he stays here in Jersey.
I see Gomez as a big-city kid so I don't seeing going to a place like Phoenix either. I think he would also like to stay in the country as well.

I see Gomez as a big-city kid so I don't seeing going to a place like Phoenix either. I think he would also like to stay in the country as well.

Phoenix is the 5 or 6 biggest city in the Country. I also think Gomez would be a huge hit with our huge hispanic community. He would rival Doan as the face of the franchise. Also, the Yotes are building quite a nice young core of prospects and young NHL'ers, it won't be too long until we are a legitimtate playoff team, especially if we add a guy like Gomez. That said, I'm sure Phoenix would have to overpay to convince him to come here.

Phoenix is the 5 or 6 biggest city in the Country. I also think Gomez would be a huge hit with our huge hispanic community. He would rival Doan as the face of the franchise. Also, the Yotes are building quite a nice young core of prospects and young NHL'ers, it won't be too long until we are a legitimtate playoff team, especially if we add a guy like Gomez. That said, I'm sure Phoenix would have to overpay to convince him to come here.
Maybe in terms of population but I'm talking about the overall reputation like by the media and such.

Phoenix is the 5 or 6 biggest city in the Country. I also think Gomez would be a huge hit with our huge hispanic community. He would rival Doan as the face of the franchise. Also, the Yotes are building quite a nice young core of prospects and young NHL'ers, it won't be too long until we are a legitimtate playoff team, especially if we add a guy like Gomez. That said, I'm sure Phoenix would have to overpay to convince him to come here.

let throw a little logic in there.... you dont think the hispanic population in the new york city metro area is enough? pheonix is a bigger draw for him?

and why would the coyotes trade a similar player in nagy away (8g 33a) yet splurge for gomez (10g 33a)? seriously, why?

let throw a little logic in there.... you dont think the hispanic population in the new york city metro area is enough? pheonix is a bigger draw for him?

and why would the coyotes trade a similar player in nagy away (8g 33a) yet splurge for gomez (10g 33a)? seriously, why?

I'm not talking just hispanic population here, I'm talking lifestyle, community, geography, everything. Yes, Phoenix, AZ would be a much bigger draw for him Hispanic community wise, he could easily turn into the cities biggest sports icon.

Let's see, Gomez is a #1 Center who has put up 2 70pt seasons and 1 80pt season, not to mention a 30 goal season. He has also played in 75 plus games in every NHL season he has played in.

Nagy has not done any of the above.

i would love to see gomez on the habs...he's a great playmaker

I'm not talking just hispanic population here, I'm talking lifestyle, community, geography, everything. Yes, Phoenix, AZ would be a much bigger draw for him Hispanic community wise, he could easily turn into the cities biggest sports icon.



I do know Gretzky tried to get him atleast once maybe twice. I also know he is interested in trying to being him in and that they are friends but Scott wants to go to a contender Phoenix might be one day but it's not right now. Scott doesn't care about playing in a pace that has alot of mexicans it would be good for that team just for marketing purposes but that's not a big thing for him.

I do know Gretzky tried to get him atleast once maybe twice. I also know he is interested in trying to being him in and that they are friends but Scott wants to go to a contender Phoenix might be one day but it's not right now. Scott doesn't care about playing in a pace that has alot of mexicans it would be good for that team just for marketing purposes but that's not a big thing for him.

With a guy like Gomez phoenix could become a contender sooner rather than later. And yes, the marketing of Gomez to the area would help the team, but it could also really help Gomez, I'm telling you he could own the town, and get a lot out of it himself.

The Yotes lack a quality sniper. Gomez needs a good sniper to maximize his skills.

I'm hijacking the thread.



Scott does some commercials for GCI which is a cable,phone and probably a few other things company. I'm going to try and get all of them I think there are 3 or so.



http://www.livevideo.com/video/landing/AC832C1B4BF547479EEB535409BE94A6/scott-gomez-gci-commercial.aspx?m_tkc=981579

Gomer should get the same as Elias, as a sign of respect and to keep the good chemistry on the top line. That's plenty of money. 5 years/30 million gets it done, almost regardless of other offers -- even $7mil offers, IMO.

:biglaugh: Oh man, that's hilarious. Gomez trying to be so smooth with his buzz cut.

:biglaugh: Oh man, that's hilarious. Gomez trying to be so smooth with his buzz cut.




Yeah that's still a bad haircut. If I get the other commercials they made him look like he has a blackeye and he's on a hockey bench.

:biglaugh: Oh man, that's hilarious. Gomez trying to be so smooth with his buzz cut.

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As much as I hate to say this, I don't see Gomez in a Devils uniform next season.

As much as I hate to say this, I don't see Gomez in a Devils uniform next season.

It was hard to disagree with you on this. Accept now we know the Cap will be $50 million next season. So the possibility exists he fits in the budget of NJ and is resigned.

Scott Gomez is not making a great case this season that he is worth $5 million (what he makes now through arbitration award) and what he might be seeking next season ($6 mill or more)

He is worthless this season when he does not have the puck.
The team went 8-1-1 without him.
He has only 10 goals after a 30 plus goal season last year and he just bearly leads the team in assists in fron of Rafalski.
He has looked very lathargic this season at times.

Make no mistake, he is an exceptional player and our top line center. There is no way he will be traded this season meaning either we lose him to free agency or re-sign him. But if he wants $6 million next season after taking the team to arbitration Lou will not give him that barring that he does not explode or have a huge post season.

woah I didn't realize the 50 million cap was official. Awesome. I think we do have a good shot at resigning him then. But I think his salary should drop to 4.

Phoenix is the 5 or 6 biggest city in the Country. I also think Gomez would be a huge hit with our huge hispanic community. He would rival Doan as the face of the franchise. Also, the Yotes are building quite a nice young core of prospects and young NHL'ers, it won't be too long until we are a legitimtate playoff team, especially if we add a guy like Gomez. That said, I'm sure Phoenix would have to overpay to convince him to come here.


there is no way phoenix is the 5 or 6 biggest city in the country. not to mention he would never leave a contender for a team that might not even exist a few years down the line.

woah I didn't realize the 50 million cap was official. Awesome. I think we do have a good shot at resigning him then. But I think his salary should drop to 4.


are you mad fer it ?

woah I didn't realize the 50 million cap was official. Awesome. I think we do have a good shot at resigning him then. But I think his salary should drop to 4.

His salary is not going to drop, especially for a pending UFA. The best we can hope for is that he doesn't command a high raise.

there is no way phoenix is the 5 or 6 biggest city in the country. not to mention he would never leave a contender for a team that might not even exist a few years down the line.
Phoenix is home to 1,461,575 residents,making it the sixth-largest city in the United States
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix%2C_Arizona

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix%2C_Arizona

shocking, thats sad they can not support their team with that many people.

shocking, thats sad they can not support their team with that many people.

:amazed: wow, please don't tell me you're a Devils fan AND making fun of another team's fan support.

:amazed: wow, please don't tell me you're a Devils fan AND making fun of another team's fan support.


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Seriously, I don't think Gomez can do anything other than make a breakout. His skills to skate the puck from coast to coast is about the only thing he is good for. Most of his passes are way off or are turnovers especially on the powerplay. If he wants anything more than $5 a year he can definitely have the boot.

:biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:


Seriously, I don't think Gomez can do anything other than make a breakout. His skills to skate the puck from coast to coast is about the only thing he is good for. Most of his passes are way off or are turnovers especially on the powerplay. If he wants anything more than $5 a year he can definitely have the boot.

seriously??...he is making 5million this season, the cap is going up 6 million dollars and you think he isnt going to want a raise:eek: i think the starting point for his new contract will be 6million per and probably end up 6.75 or 7...everyone needs to stop being surprised with the contracts players sign

anyway i think if he doesnt get a contract from NJD then he goes to the west coast. as much as i would want to see him a flyer i dont think there is a chance in hell he would sign with anyone in the devils division.

His salary is not going to drop, especially for a pending UFA. The best we can hope for is that he doesn't command a high raise.

yeah I know, but it SHOULD drop with the numbers he is putting up...or...NOT putting up, in his case.

Can you see him getting more than 30 million over five years?

shocking, thats sad they can not support their team with that many people.

That wikipedia is outdated. Since that last census Phoenix has passed Philly and is now the fifth largest city in the United States.

He better not leave. We don't have anyone on our team that can take his place. We have a guy in the NCAA but he is at least a few years away from signing with us.

We will deeply miss his end to end rushes, and speed through the neutral zone.

I think Gomez is probably going to stay. It look like the Cap is going to go to about the 48 million range. That will give the team plently of money to resign the players (I doubt collectively they all get a 4 million dollar raise). I think only Martin and Hale may be arbitration elegible (I could be wrong) so I think the team will be fine with money.

If Gomez does leave I can't see him going to Phoenix, maybe San Jose or Vancouver which are closer to Alaska and are both contenders.

I think Gomez is probably going to stay. It look like the Cap is going to go to about the 48 million range. That will give the team plently of money to resign the players (I doubt collectively they all get a 4 million dollar raise). I think only Martin and Hale may be arbitration elegible (I could be wrong) so I think the team will be fine with money.

If Gomez does leave I can't see him going to Phoenix, maybe San Jose or Vancouver which are closer to Alaska and are both contenders.
You're forgetting that Parise is coming off his entry level contract, he'll be compensated quite well I believe.

You're forgetting that Parise is coming off his entry level contract, he'll be compensated quite well I believe.

Hopefully 2 million or less

The point is that Gomez has not done anything that warrants 6 million per season.
The only way that he deserves that is if he has a monster playoffs and the Devils win the stanley cup.


A fair deal is 7 years-38.5 million= 5.5 million per season

I think Gomez is probably going to stay. It look like the Cap is going to go to about the 48 million range. That will give the team plently of money to resign the players (I doubt collectively they all get a 4 million dollar raise). I think only Martin and Hale may be arbitration elegible (I could be wrong) so I think the team will be fine with money.

If Gomez does leave I can't see him going to Phoenix, maybe San Jose or Vancouver which are closer to Alaska and are both contenders.

Don't tell Everson that.

Haven't you people heard, he's going to Philly. If you go to their thread, you'll read how he's already slotted into their lineup. I actually read where one person has him on the team for 4.5 million. How you like that? He gives the hometown break to Philadelphia.

Seriously, I can see Lou offer him no more then 5.5 million, because Lou rather keep the home grown talent and I hope Gomez and his dad accept it and be grateful.

That wikipedia is outdated. Since that last census Phoenix has passed Philly and is now the fifth largest city in the United States.

Phoenix proper is the 6th largest city, but the Phoenix area is the 14th largest metro area. City population numbers can be a little misleading, for example San Diego is the 8th largest city in the US, but it's considered a "small market" sportswise because it only the 17th largest metro area.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_metropolitan_statistical_are as_by_population

I apologize for the boring geography post.

Phoenix proper is the 6th largest city, but the Phoenix area is the 14th largest metro area. City population numbers can be a little misleading, for example San Diego is the 8th largest city in the US, but it's considered a "small market" sportswise because it only the 17th largest metro area.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_metropolitan_statistical_are as_by_population

I apologize for the boring geography post.

The areas around Phoenix are booming at an incredible rate. Some of those areas above the Phoenix area on that list are standing still (Detroit, DC, Philly). I don't believe it will be too long before the list of areas surrounding Phoenix is exanded and our Metropolitan area shoots right up that list. Anyway, Phoenix is obviously not a small sports market with the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, MLS, ECHL, NLL, WNBA, and the PAC10.

Gomez will stay and if he wants more money then he should fire his agent which probably gets 8-10% of the contract

Gomez will stay and if he wants more money then he should fire his agent which probably gets 8-10% of the contract

His agent is his father.

The areas around Phoenix are booming at an incredible rate. Some of those areas above the Phoenix area on that list are standing still (Detroit, DC, Philly). I don't believe it will be too long before the list of areas surrounding Phoenix is exanded and our Metropolitan area shoots right up that list. Anyway, Phoenix is obviously not a small sports market with the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, MLS, ECHL, NLL, WNBA, and the PAC10.

I was just pointing out that even if Phoenix is now the 5th largest city, the Philly metro area still has around two million more people. Don't get me wrong, I don't think Phoenix metro area is small market, 3.9 million is plenty big, and Coyotes would make a lot $ if they could start making the playoffs with any regularity.

His agent is his father.

He should still fire the guy.

i think he'll stay with the devils he really seems to like the area and likes the team but hopefully he isn't to thick skulled to realize his best chance for more cups is with the devils and will resign here for 5.5mil - 6 mil

His agent is his father.

He should still fire the guy.

"Sure you are my agent and everything, but I don´t want you to be my father anymore"

Seriously, I think there´s a fair chance that we can afford to keep Gomer for another few years. Of course that´s not going to happen if he set´s his price tag above six million dollars per year. As much as I´d like to see Gomer wearing the Devs´red, he´s replaceable, though.

I think Gomez is going for a longer (and bigger) deal, because now it´s a good time to get better salaries cos the cap is likely to grow for next season. In the future it is not certain at all that the cap will go up like it has grown the past two seasons. At some point the growth will settle down and maybe go back a bit. IMO the cap will eventually be around 52-54 mil and settle up between those numbers.

People questioning Gomez's desire to stay in NJ:

"But I can tell you this: I'd never want to see them[NY Rags] win the Stanley Cup. I'd take any other team over them."

http://www.nj.com/devils/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1171949954140890.xml&coll=1

"The main thing I see is the closeness on this team," Gomez said yesterday as most veterans skipped an optional skate at Continental Airlines Arena. "That's maybe the most underrated part of a championship team. Some people were shocked when the '95 team came back the other day and the way guys reacted to seeing Randy McKay and the others. But that was a tight unit and so is this team."

"Everyone here is on the same page," Gomez said. "That reminds me of the two Cup teams I played on. Guys want everyone to succeed. (Richard) Matvichuk hasn't played a game, but he's a big part of this team. Erik Rasmussen is important in the locker room.

"It helps when you go on the ice. You care about the other guys. The guys who've won want those who don't have a ring to get one."

http://www.nj.com/devils/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1170914272273010.xml&coll=1

Lou ABSOLUTELY has to resign Gomez to a 5.5M$/6M$ - 7 year contract. If we can have our top 6 forwards locked up long term with our checking line, who isn't going anywere, I think we'll be set. Just imagine having this lineup for the next 3 to 4 years...

Elias - Gomez - Gionta
Parise - Zajac - Langenbrunner (Bergfors in 2 years)
Pandolfo - Madden - Brylin (Langenbrunner in 2 years)
Rupp - Bergfors (Brylin in 2 years) - Janssen (hopefully Tallackson in 2 years)

That looks like a ****ING solid lineup I.M.O. :eek:

I agree, we really need to keep him.

Every time he takes the puck from behind our net, I always expect that we will get a shot on goal on that rush.