GDT: Devils at Islanders, 12/30, 7 PM

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BROADCAST INFORMATION
MEDIUM|STATION|TIME|BROADCASTERS|LINKS
Television|FSNY2|6:30-Devils GameNight |Cangelosi, Fischler, Daneyko|
Television|FSNY2|7:00 |Doc Emrick & Chico Resch|
Radio|660 WFAN|6:50|Matt Loughlin & Tom Chorske|NHL Feed ('http://gameradio.nhl.com/cc/playa.php?url=http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia-live/nhl/9302/20_nhl-newjersey_game_audio_050909.asx','mp','height=320, width=400') or WQEW Feed (http://cbsplayer.streamtheworld.com/index.php?CALLSIGN=WQEWAM)

GAMEDAY ARTICLES
ARTICLE TITLE|WRITER|NEWSPAPER
“Gomez answers call, scores twice to lead Devils (http://www.nj.com/devils/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1167456915175360.xml&coll=1)”|Rich Chere|The Star-Ledger
“Devils notes (http://www.nj.com/devils/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1167457092175360.xml&coll=1)”|Rich Chere|The Star-Ledger
“EGG line steals the spotlight (http://www.northjersey.com/page.php?qstr=eXJpcnk3ZjczN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXkxMzImZmdi ZWw3Zjd2cWVlRUV5eTcwNDczODMmeXJpcnk3ZjcxN2Y3dnFlZU VFeXk2)”|Tom Gulitti|Bergen Record
“GREAT SCOTT! GOMEZ BACK WITH DOUBLE (http://www.nypost.com/seven/12302006/sports/devils/great_scott__gomez_back_with_double_devils_mark_ev erson.htm)’”|Mark Everson |New York Post

TEAM LEADERS
LEADERS|DEVILS PLAYER|#|ISLANDERS PLAYER|#
GOALS|Brian Gionta|15|Jason Blake|21
ASSISTS|B. Rafalski, P. Elias|22|Alexi Yashin|22
POINTS|Patrik Elias|36|Jason Blake |38
PIM|Cam Janssen|65|Aaron Ashim|53
+/-|Zach Parise|+4|Radek Martinek|+15
ATOI|Paul Martin|24:36|Tom Poti|24:06


GOALTENDER STATISTICS
DEVILS GOALTENDERS|GP|W|L|OTL|SO|GAA|SV%
Martin Brodeur|35|21|12|2|5|2.17|92.2|
Scott Clemmensen |3|0|1|1|0|3.60|87.8|

ISLANDERS GOALTENDERS|GP|W|L|OTL|SO|GAA|SV%
Rick DiPietro|28|16|11|1|4|2.66|91.7|
Mike Dunham|10|3|3|2|0|2.83|91.6|


POWER PLAY & PENALTY KILL
SPECIAL TEAMS|Devils Success Rate|%|NHL Rank|Islanders Success Rate|%|NHL Rank
Power Play|36 for 186|19.4%|5th|27 for 162|16.7%|tied-19th
Penalty Kill|123 for 140|87.9%|3rd|172 for 215|80.0%|24th


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Scott Gomez . . . . . . . . . . . . Rick DiPietro

Beautiful GDT yet again!

LETS GO DEVILS!!!
:devdance: :devils :devdance:

If there is one player on another team I want the Devils to acquire it would be Jason Blake. I have nothing but the utmost respect for the way he plays the game and he is a prototypical Devil player.

Isn't it amazing how one team can own another? And the way Nolan has these guys playing this year this is gonna be our hardest game of the year so far. I remember back to the old days when we couldn't even sniff a point at the Mausoleum, of course we sucked EGGs back then, now we score with them!

Me thinks we will have to win this with our special teams, I am glad the EGG put together a very nice 5 on 5 game last night and seems that has been our weakness and the Isles' strength so far.

Go Devils!

Tonight is all going to be about the coaching. Nolan vs. Julien.

Tonight is all going to be about the coaching. Nolan vs. Julien.

Then we are screwed.

ill be at the Villanova-Temple bball game so i wont get to watch...but lets keep it rolling boys!

if it is worth anything the guy who is arguabily our best defenseman(Martinek) is injured

if it is worth anything the guy who is arguabily our best defenseman(Martinek) is injured
White may still be out for us, and the drop off from White to Brooks is probably at least equal to the drop off from Martinek to your 7th.

I have to say, injuries sure do suck.

Seems like the last few years Atlanta and the Islanders have been two very difficult teams for us to handle. The Devils would impressive me with a win tonight. It's time for this team to kick it into another gear if thay want to be taken seriously, beating up on Pittsburgh and Washington just doesn't do it for me anymore.

Head to Battle of NY Blog at http://battleofny.blogspot.com for BoNY GameDay.

Yeah... I want to see wins against some "tougher" teams. Namely: Buffalo, Atlanta, and the Islanders.

So far we've proven we can lose to them... but now we need to win.

Elias has had some good games against the Islanders in the past. I remember a 6-1 route when the EGG line was first put together. Gomez and Elias both had 5 point games, it would be nice to see a repeat tonight.

We need to score on Mr. Olympian early, get in his head.

Anyone know if Rassy is scratched again?

This game will be on Yahoo tonight. Although it doesn't show it on the schedule on the front NHL page on yahoo if you go to the score page is has the watch live link (although it's not open yet).

Anyone know when White is coming back? I'm startin to miss the big guy on D.

This game will be on Yahoo tonight. Although it doesn't show it on the schedule on the front NHL page on yahoo if you go to the score page is has the watch live link (although it's not open yet).
That is awesome, I think I might even be around tonight to watch it.

Alright, im sick of losing to these guys, lets get a win, janssen, please kick someone's *** tonight, put them in their place!


i hope Whitey is back tonight, feel much more comfortable with him back there then Brooks

PP already!

2 PPs already! GEEEZ!

PP is looking good tonight... moving puck well, staying calm, keeping it in the zone.

What a weird goal.

1 - 0 Devils on the Sky-Hook by Rourke into his own net.

Fluke goal but we will take it.

Great game so far. Both sides are really workin for the win. Entertaining.

We need to score on Mr. Olympian early, get in his head.

Anyone know if Rassy is scratched again?

Was in a elevator with him today and asked him....he was like I sure hope so, you could tell he wanted to too. I felt really bad for him, he was areal nice guy but im sure it sucks to have to sit some games.

Paul Martin owes Brodeur one (1) dinner after that.

Madden has an A on his jersey with White out.

Paul Martin owes Brodeur one (1) dinner after that.

Madden has an A on his jersey with White out.

so does pando, i think madden always has one.

Paul Martin owes Brodeur one (1) dinner after that.

Madden has an A on his jersey with White out.
That play kills me because he had Zajac WIIIIDE open and a very clear passing lane...much like Gomez's pass to Elias last night.

Paul Martin owes Brodeur one (1) dinner after that.

Most disappointing to see so many defensive lapses from him.

Sad way to end the home scoreless streak for DiPietro by the call-up replacement for Martinek.

Kozlov is making me nervous.

"If I wasn't talking, I wouldn't know what to say" - Chico Resch

Most disappointing to see so many defensive lapses from him.

maybe its a good thing we didnt lock him up for so long at a high price.....Lou is all knowing

Most disappointing to see so many defensive lapses from him.

Ain't it? The thing that drives me crazy is that you know he has the tools to be much, much better than what we have seen this year.

Sad way to end the home scoreless streak for DiPietro by the call-up replacement for Martinek.

Kozlov is making me nervous.

"If I wasn't talking, I wouldn't know what to say" - Chico Resch

Kozlov pisses me off....nolan must beat him before games hes taken more shots in this game than he did his entire tenor with the Devs

Kozlov pisses me off....nolan must beat him before games hes taken more shots in this game than he did his entire tenor with the Devs


Take comfort in the fact that this is Kozlov's best period of hockey, since he scored 4 against the Rangers at MSG.

Kozlov has been hot and cold.

Kozlov has been hot and cold.

Believe me, you don't have to tell us that. :)

Believe me, you don't have to tell us that. :)


Yea, I had a feeling you guys knew all about it.

But, when he is on his game he is something special to watch.

The guy makes me crazy!!

Ain't it? The thing that drives me crazy is that you know he has the tools to be much, much better than what we have seen this year.

Yeah, we saw a totally different player in his first year and a half with the Devils then what we're seeing nightly now. His confidence just looks shot out there.

Yea, I had a feeling you guys knew all about it.

But, when he is on his game he is something special to watch.

The guy makes me crazy!!

We saw him play a game in Florida last year where he looked like - no lie - Super Mario that night, he has to be one of the most frustrating players in the NHL to watch because of the canny ability he has wasting away his great God given talent.

Yea, I had a feeling you guys knew all about it.

But, when he is on his game he is something special to watch.

The guy makes me crazy!!
The worst part is, when you see this guy stickhandle it's like watching a god. I've never seen a 6'6" guy with such hands before. He made one sweet spin move along the boards in the first that just leaves you wanting more.

Yeah, we saw a totally different player in his first year and a half with the Devils then what we're seeing nightly now. His confidence just looks shot out there.

I thought he was the best defensiveman for Team USA in the 2004 WC, where did that guy go?

It seems that Martin makes at least huge gaffe each game.

Wow... this team... ugh.

Brodeur vs the Islanders at this time...

Talk about a nightmare shift for Brooks and Hale.

We gotta start hitting here, even the 4th liners are just letting them skate all around

Talk about what a nightmare Brooks and Hale are.

Fixed for you.

Have the Devils managed a single shot in this period yet? Aside from the one Madden just took?

According to Chico, NJ is taking "the defensive approach." :shakehead

Have the Devils managed a single shot in this period yet? Aside from the one Madden took I mean?
Two shots, according to nhl.com

According to Chico, NJ is taking "the defensive approach." :shakehead

I love Chico. I think he actually believes what he says.

Marty is playin' with a horseshoe, rabbits foot and four leaf clover sticking out of his a*s!! Post saved him like 3 times already:D

Our #3 commercial is on! Only a matter of time till you know what......

Marty is playin' with a horseshoe, rabbits foot and four leaf clover sticking out of his a*s!! Post saved him like 3 times already:D




Don't forget the Leprechaun.

Out of a TV timeout, Julien puts out the 4th line with Brooks and Hale, we dodged a bullet there.

Julien = :dunce:

Julien = :dunce:

I think I am gonna make that my signature, if you don't mind!

Captain Elias jaws with Sean Hill all the way down after the icing.

PP Isles.

I don't like this display of momentum by the Islanders. A goal would be nice now that the penalty has been killed.

I don't like this display of momentum by the Islanders. A goal would be nice now that the penalty has been killed.

Haven't you heard, it's our defensive approach!

Where the hell is Oduya?

does anybody else agree with me if it wasnt for the 3m's mistake last season Witt would be a Devil this season......ive been telling my father over and over, hes got awesome disapline.

EDIT: Goaltender interference call but the Devils get 2 retaliation penalties.

Dammit Luko.

Dammit Luko.

At least they did something for marty....it was alittle too late but better than not doing anything at all in my eyes.

Good game, they went over six minutes of play without a whistle.

Absolute crap. That was a slash by Witt.

Dammit Luko.
If he was sticking up for Marty, like it sounds on the radio, I have no problem with that.

Start hitting!!!!!! Let's go!!!!!

My Lord, Hale is brutal.

If he was sticking up for Marty, like it sounds on the radio, I have no problem with that.

He was. If anything, I was surprised Martin Brodeur wasn't called for chopping him with his stick.

BTW, Dowd, can we hit the net on those wide-open slap shots? Thanks.

Anyone notice that these Knick commercials have nothing to do with the current Knick team?

Hahaha... DP takes the goal out.

I just tune out the Knicks in general.

Hey DiPietro knocked the net FORWARD. I guess that's 2 minutes for delay of game?

PP Update: OOOOH, how did those rebounds not go in?! Devils end the second with a of flurry shots on net.

Anyone notice that these Knick commercials have nothing to do with the current Knick team?

I dont think the knicks know who the knicks are.....the might as well just show knick classics for a year until thomas is fired

He was. If anything, I was surprised Martin Brodeur wasn't called for chopping him with his stick.

BTW, Dowd, can we hit the net on those wide-open slap shots? Thanks.
Marty did get called for a rough, but not a slash.

does anybody else agree with me if it wasnt for the 3m's mistake last season Witt would be a Devil this season......ive been telling my father over and over, hes got awesome disapline.
Funny because Witt's lack of discipline is his biggest problem.

Nice delay of game Dip.

How did Gio not put that in?

Funny because Witt's lack of discipline is his biggest problem.

Nice delay of game Dip.

How did Gio not put that in?


Witt hasn't shown a problem with discipline as an Islander, could put up an argue that Witt is the Isles best defenseman.

Hated the guy, but now that he is an Islander, I love him!!

This has been an awesome game so far, it's a shame that the only goal was a total fluke :shakehead

Cannot wait for the 3rd!!

Hahaha, I was laughing my *** off when DP toppled over his own net. He scrambeled to get in front of his net so I don't think it was intentional.

Witt hasn't shown a problem with discipline as an Islander, could put up an argue that Witt is the Isles best defenseman.

Hated the guy, but now that he is an Islander, I love him!!

This has been an awesome game so far, it's a shame that the only goal was a total fluke :shakehead

Cannot wait for the 3rd!!

Yeah, Witt has been a revelation for you guys, great pick up.

Hahaha, I was laughing my *** off when DP toppled over his own net. He scrambeled to get in front of his net so I don't think it was intentional.


he's got a big butt!! :biglaugh: :biglaugh:

Pretty good period. Isles were definately the stronger team for a couple good stretches. The EGG line needs to be less fancy with their passing.

Witt hasn't shown a problem with discipline as an Islander, could put up an argue that Witt is the Isles best defenseman.
Last year he was "Mr. 2-minute minor" for the Caps.

Ugh... how can any self-respecting Devils woman-fan ever date an Islander? The child would have hooves!

Interesting strategy to have the Captain serve Brodeur's penalty.

:biglaugh: :D he's got a big butt!! :biglaugh: :biglaugh:

Ugh... how can any self-respecting Devils woman-fan ever date an Islander? The child would have hooves!


huh?

huh?

They showed two fans, a dude and a chick sitting together and totally looking ackward (while wearin opposing jerseys)... like: "ugh, i forgot he/she was an islanders/devs fan"

They showed two fans, a dude and a chick sitting together and totally looking ackward (while wearin opposing jerseys)... like: "ugh, i forgot he/she was an islanders/devs fan"

gotcha

Witt has come a long ways from how careless he was with the Capitals. He used to be an incredible liability penalty-wise.

This has been an exciting 1-0 game so far, not as exciting as 0-0 game if not for the muffed goal.

I remember the 0-0 game against Hasek, that will never happen again.

So much more to hockey than pretty goals.

Brodeur with a save on Viktor Kozlov, who was hooked on his way to take that shot. Rafalski will sit for 2 minutes.

This has been an exciting 1-0 game so far, not as exciting as 0-0 game if not for the muffed goal.

I remember the 0-0 game against Hasek, that will never happen again.

So much more to hockey than pretty goals.

The Devils? EXCITING? The hell you say...

:sarcasm:

Can the Devils just score for fricks sake!

Good job by Langs getting back on that play after Rafalski fell down.

Its incredible how all the goal scorers on this team always pick different nights to collectively get on the scoreboard.

DiPietro has played really well tonight, maybe this game will end 1-0? In any case, the Devils need to keep up the pressure and have a player set up in the slot. Gionta was unlucky to not have a better shot in the slot just now.

We need to move the puck and shoot faster... or deflect one in.

Witt has come a long ways from how careless he was with the Capitals. He used to be an incredible liability penalty-wise.

been whatching him all year he def draws more than he takes.....if it was a problem its a thing of the past

We need to move the puck and shoot faster... or deflect one in.

Well the Devils have out shot the Isles 10-4 so far this period, so they aren't going back into a defensive mode, you gotta like that man.

Why no penalty on Dipetro for grabbing Gionta there? That's blatent holding.

Excellent backchecking by Alexei Yashin on Jay Pandolfo.

Yeah, I thought I would never write that sentence either.

Devils are still pushing, which is good. Keep chopping!

Marty looking so good tonight.

The Devils are working amazingly hard tonight... they need to score... PLEASE!

What has happend to Miro Satan's offensive game this season?

The Devils are now outshooting the Islanders 30-24.

I think both totals would be higher if the passing and puck possessions was slicker, there's been a lot of turnovers/broken plays by both teams.

The Devils are now outshooting the Islanders 30-24.

I think both totals would be higher if the passing and puck possessions was slicker, there's been a lot of turnovers/broken plays by both teams.

Plus both goalies are amazing tonight and on their game.

Why no penalty on Dipetro for grabbing Gionta there? That's blatent holding.
I think he was going for embellishing the contact after Gionta was pushed in. Definite bearhug.

Islanders commercials are painful to watch...

Paul Martin with a great play to stop that 2 on 1!

GOMEZ HITS THE POST!

The Devils have got the momentum.

That was a great play by Martin. Satan used to score at will when he was with the Sabres from that location.

Martin just might have earned his paycheck for this game from that great play.

Christ!!! Dp With A Steal!!! Grrrr!

Elias almost had a highlight reel goal after Brodeur came up real big. Crazy end to this period.

A whole lot of ruckus in front of Brodeur, but no goals for the Isles!

What a save by DiPietro on Elias' backhand!

This game just got even more wide-open!

Devils PP.

Penalty to the Islanders with a little less than 2 minutes to play! Way to go Islanders!

Satan will sit 2 minutes for tripping Oduya!

What a game.

damn......martin just let satan walk by thank god for the penalty we needed a line change bad.

sorry isle fans but well take it:yo:

The Devils nearly get something on the PP!

NOW THEY DO!

ELIAS gets the empty net goal!!! (And trucks an Islander in the process)

Patty puts it away with the empty netter. Almost a playoff like intensity from both teams. Good game to watch.

Elias Finally Gets The Goal!!!! Empty-netter!!! The Devils Win!!!

Brawl Brawl Brawl!!!!

And now we got a rumble between...Chris Campoli and SARGE~!

Sarge is still standing...OK, he didn't do so well, but he didn't get knocked out or anything.

6th shutout for the year for Marty
86th shutout of Marty's career
Snapped a 5 game losing streak agains the Islanders
The Devils end 2006 on a high note, 2-0.

GO DEVILS!

Brylin in a fight... whoa.

Devils finally beat the Isles! And Marty gets a shutout! :D

Brodeur was amused by it. There goes Sergei's shot at the lady byng.

We'll that was an interesting game. Definately a goalie duel... too bad for that defenseman. Some great chances in this game and solid goaltending from both sides.

Great game tonight. It had everything flow, hits, and great goal tending by both sides. The difference ended up being a fluky goal.There need to be more games like this.

Question: is this the 1st time we got an empty netter this season? It always seems like we miss those!

WHAT A WAY TO END THE YEAR!!! WOOOT!!!

Now lets bring it hard to those Rags on Tuesday!!!

Question: is this the 1st time we got an empty netter this season? It always seems like we miss those!
I think so. Brodeur and DiPietro deserve to share the #1 star. It's a shame this game was decided on a flukey goal.

LOL, I wish I'd seen the fight, that's probably the first time Sarge has ever dropped the gloves. Though it doesn't sound like Cam's job is in danger.

Looks like the Rangers are going to end their winless streak against Washington.

LOL, I wish I'd seen the fight, that's probably the first time Sarge has ever dropped the gloves. Though it doesn't sound like Cam's job is in danger.

I think he almost did it against Boston a bit back.

Brylin in a fight... whoa.
You know it's a crazy game when you see Sarge gettin' into a fight.

Finally, an empty-netter. Elias was so damn tired he struggled to get that puck into the net.

I don't understand why the refs didn't call a holding penalty when DP bear-hugged Gionta.

I can't believe no one's told DP to quit playing the puck 'cause he makes idiotic decisions.

I can't believe no one's told DP to quit playing the puck 'cause he makes idiotic decisions.

Turco got burned not too long ago playing the puck behind his net.

Tough loss for the Isles.

Poti went up high on the Captain's empty-netter.

Brylin got stuck with his jersey over his head. Campoli may need to study our roster, unless Sarge called him out.

Deb Kaufmann interviewed Elias he said the game was entertaining and exciting for the fans and good for rivalry. She said they will face each other 3 more time in the Isles next 8.

Martin has been averaging 26 minutes without White.

Rick DiPietro played a great game in goal tonight, but Marty's better!* 86th career shutout and 467th career win. That puts him 83 wins behind Roy and 17 shutouts behind Sawchuk.

Such a nice block by Paul Martin on that weird play late in the game. The team as a whole looked great in the 3rd Period after a sluggish 2nd.

* the Nassau guys chose DiPietro as the 2nd star, and Brodeur as 3rd. Bogus, I call!
And now we got a rumble between...Chris Campoli and SARGE~!

Sarge is still standing...OK, he didn't do so well, but he didn't get knocked out or anything.You have to respect the fact that Sarge stood up for himself. These teams meet next week in New Jersey, so Cam Janssen finish things with Campoli.

Who wants to guess before someone who didn't see the game just looks at the score and then go on the nhl board on here and complain about low scoring boring games and use this one as an example?

Turco got burned not too long ago playing the puck behind his net.
Yeah, him and DP are the worst. They're way too flashy and they don't really help the team even when they do play the puck right.

That was my kind of hockey right there, Marty was brilliant, but so was DP, I think rick is finally coming into his own this season, it suits that they won on the flukey goal.

Let's just hope the league doesn't step in and be dicks and give Sarge and Campoli suspensions.

Great game by Mr "I hope we can still get a 2nd rounder for him," Paul Martin.

Who wants to guess before someone who didn't see the game just looks at the score and then go on the nhl board on here and complain about low scoring boring games and use this one as an example?

Yeah, because a 7-5 game is so much more exciting then a close playoff-like game & goalie duel. :shakehead

Great game, great win, and keep getting those shutouts Marty!! I love you! (in a totally non-gay way)

Wow, that was a fantastic game, although I would have like different outcome.

I gotta admit I am pissed that Isles lost it on such a flukie goal, but what are ya gonna do?


An awesome goaltenders duel, glad to see The Rick go save for save with Broduer.


DiPietro just wanted to give Gionta some love when he "hugged" him in the crease :sarcasm: , I don't understand the non-call on that, the refs made up for it on that Satan trip, looked like the Devil (was it Oduya??) embelished it a bit, but it's a long season and those calls even out in the end.

Great game, cannot wait for the next one!

Kristie

Great game by Mr "I hope we can still get a 2nd rounder for him," Paul Martin.

Haha he must read HF. A lot of us were just a little loony for a while about Martin. Sure he makes 2 million dollars but he leads the team in ice time and I think he is very good defensively. I don't know how people get the idea that he isn't.

Who wants to guess before someone who didn't see the game just looks at the score and then go on the nhl board on here and complain about low scoring boring games and use this one as an example?
Yeah, that's crazy. Hopefully, they'll look at the bottom of the game stats to find fighting majors to Sarge and Campolli.

I like the way Lukowich has been playing lately. He's stepped it up since White went down.

Great game by Mr "I hope we can still get a 2nd rounder for him," Paul Martin.

Trading him would be such a big mistake, I agree his play has been sub-par but I'm confident he will snap out of it.

* the Nassau guys chose DiPietro as the 2nd star, and Brodeur as 3rd. Bogus, I call!


NHL.com scoresheet has Rafalski as the #3 star...and the #1 star.

Haha he must read HF. A lot of us were just a little loony for a while about Martin. Sure he makes 2 million dollars but he leads the team in ice time and I think he is very good defensively. I don't know how people get the idea that he isn't.

I have been a big fan of Martin from the day we drafted him and have always followed him closely and his play from his rookie year in 2004 is night and day from what we have seen this year, the criticism of his play this year is valid but no way should that translate to moving him.

I have said before that one of the biggest mistakes most teams make is trading away young players because they are struggling and one of the reasons the Devils have always been able to play at a elite level is that they have always been patient with their younger players.

NHL.com scoresheet has Rafalski as the #3 star...and the #1 star.
Yeah, well, Yahoo has Rafalski as the number one and third star. :sarcasm:

I have been a big fan of Martin from the day we drafted him and have always followed him closely and his play from his rookie year in 2004 is night and day from what we have seen this year, the criticism of his play this year is valid but no way should that translate to moving him.

I have said before that one of the biggest mistakes most teams make is trading away young players because they are struggling and one of the reasons the Devils have always been able to play at a elite level is that they have always been patient with their younger players.

I feel pretty dumb here to be honest. The reason for this is because I just don't see what the big problem with Martin is, and subsequently why Hale gets so much praise around here. A lot of posters here make it seem like Martin is a horrible defenseman. Yeah he makes some mistakes and yes he hasn't been as good offensively as he was last year. BIG DEAL!!! Every player is going to hit their bad spots at times. Did we throw a 38 year old Scott Stevens under the bus because he was exposed at times by Erik Cole in the 01-02 playoffs? Of course not! Martin is a great defenseman defensively, and will continue to develop his offensive game. Hopefully he's a guy who is here to stay. Hale on the other hand some people here are in love with. Wow a guy who plays 9 minutes per night and hasn't done anything of note physically, offensively, or even defensively. Yeah he has good tools and can potentially become a good dman but right now he's basically a nothing #6 dman. However he is praised but 24 minute Martin is worth a 3rd rounder. Very strange...

It just kills me watching Martin's shots always being blocked from the point or seeing him shoot wide of the net so frequently. He got caught pinching tonight early in the game where Brodeur had to bail him out and seems to really struggle with putting 4 or 5 really solid shifts in a row together for a guy getting these kinds of minutes. I don't know if I'd say he had a great game per se, but he definately made up for his 1st period gaffe with the stellar block. Fans just want him to return to the form where no one is questioning his confidence with the puck imo.

I have been a big fan of Martin from the day we drafted him and have always followed him closely and his play from his rookie year in 2004 is night and day from what we have seen this year, the criticism of his play this year is valid but no way should that translate to moving him.

I have said before that one of the biggest mistakes most teams make is trading away young players because they are struggling and one of the reasons the Devils have always been able to play at a elite level is that they have always been patient with their younger players.

I have been one of Martin's biggest critics (duh) but I have never once said he should be traded. He was very good last year but there has been a considerable drop-off in his decision making, mainly this year. He seems tentative and soft, especially while manning the point in the offensive zone. I know he will break out of it and I am sure he is more frustrated by his play than we are.

I must give him his due for that excellent pass-block on the 2 on 1. I hope that signals a chnage in his play :cheers:

NHL.com scoresheet has Rafalski as the #3 star...and the #1 star.Yes. That page auto-refreshes, so I don't know if I originally saw Brodeur third or saw Rafalski and DiPietro and didn't look closely at after being shocked not seeing Brodeur as 1st star. It doens't matter though. I like Brodeur getting the great statistics to help his chances at winning another Vezina, but the team winning is much more important.

Martin just creates nothing in the offensive zone. A perfect example was a clean win on a faceoff to him and he wraps it around behind the net to nobody. I saw the Sharks coaches rip Vlasic (an 18 year old rookie) a new one for doing that. He also never shoots when there's a Devil anywhere near the net. He also had at least three brutal giveaways that we were lucky didn't cost us.

I don't think he's lost forever, but don't try and tell me he had a good game tonight. He had one great play and that was it.

I feel pretty dumb here to be honest. The reason for this is because I just don't see what the big problem with Martin is, and subsequently why Hale gets so much praise around here. A lot of posters here make it seem like Martin is a horrible defenseman. Yeah he makes some mistakes and yes he hasn't been as good offensively as he was last year. BIG DEAL!!! Every player is going to hit their bad spots at times. Did we throw a 38 year old Scott Stevens under the bus because he was exposed at times by Erik Cole in the 01-02 playoffs? Of course not! Martin is a great defenseman defensively, and will continue to develop his offensive game. Hopefully he's a guy who is here to stay. Hale on the other hand some people here are in love with. Wow a guy who plays 9 minutes per night and hasn't done anything of note physically, offensively, or even defensively. Yeah he has good tools and can potentially become a good dman but right now he's basically a nothing #6 dman. However he is praised but 24 minute Martin is worth a 3rd rounder. Very strange...

Your answer: From whom more is given, more is expected.

Although I agree with you about Hale. He has been positively awful lately, especially tonight.

For me its disappointing not seeing David Hale get more of an opportunity to establish himself with the team under Claude Julien. How exactly does a player make his presence known and get a feel for a game when you get less then six minutes of ice time over 3 periods? Few players can do this in this day and age. Alexander Radulov is one of them, but he's getting PP minutes with some big time linemates and well he's a forward to boot. I don't know if David Hale gets unnecessary praise on this site on the whole. IMO, he's the one player with solid potential who seems to be getting the least amount of time to prove himself and improve himself rightly or wrongly. As an aside, lets not lose sight of the fact that Paul Martin's leading the team pretty convincingly with the worst plus/minus. Thats not so good on a team that prides itself on strong defensive play. Never has been.

For me its disappointing not seeing David Hale get more of an opportunity to establish himself with the team under Claude Julien. How exactly does a player make his presence known and get a feel for a game when you get less then six minutes of ice time over 3 periods? Few players can do this in this day and age. Alexander Radulov is one of them, but he's getting PP minutes with some big time linemates and well he's a forward to boot. I don't know if David Hale gets unnecessary praise on this site on the whole. IMO, he's the one player with solid potential who seems to be getting the least amount of time to prove himself and improve himself rightly or wrongly.
I was shocked that he only played six minutes, because I felt every second he was out there.

Witt hasn't shown a problem with discipline as an Islander, could put up an argue that Witt is the Isles best defenseman.

Hated the guy, but now that he is an Islander, I love him!!
This has been an awesome game so far, it's a shame that the only goal was a total fluke :shakehead

Cannot wait for the 3rd!!

I wish we had him!

I feel pretty dumb here to be honest. The reason for this is because I just don't see what the big problem with Martin is, and subsequently why Hale gets so much praise around here. A lot of posters here make it seem like Martin is a horrible defenseman. Yeah he makes some mistakes and yes he hasn't been as good offensively as he was last year. BIG DEAL!!! Every player is going to hit their bad spots at times. Did we throw a 38 year old Scott Stevens under the bus because he was exposed at times by Erik Cole in the 01-02 playoffs? Of course not! Martin is a great defenseman defensively, and will continue to develop his offensive game. Hopefully he's a guy who is here to stay. Hale on the other hand some people here are in love with. Wow a guy who plays 9 minutes per night and hasn't done anything of note physically, offensively, or even defensively. Yeah he has good tools and can potentially become a good dman but right now he's basically a nothing #6 dman. However he is praised but 24 minute Martin is worth a 3rd rounder. Very strange...

I think the reason why people give Hale a break over Martin is that talent wise they aren't on the same level.

I have really no complaints about Martin's defensive play, it has been pretty solid for the most part minus the gaffes he has been giving up late, but I am telling you as someone who watched Martin play every minute in the 2004 World Cup - against the worlds best players - he was exceptional, he and Rafalski as a tandem were not on the ice for even one goal even strength and were both Team USA's best defensive men and I thought personally that Martin was one of the best defensivemen in the tournament.

My complaints about him is not that he has been a bad defensivemen but that he should be much better than what we are seeing.

Who wants to guess before someone who didn't see the game just looks at the score and then go on the nhl board on here and complain about low scoring boring games and use this one as an example?

You know it.

Also: "Marty gets another easy shutout because he only faces 15 shots per game"

I have been a big fan of Martin from the day we drafted him and have always followed him closely and his play from his rookie year in 2004 is night and day from what we have seen this year, the criticism of his play this year is valid but no way should that translate to moving him.

I have said before that one of the biggest mistakes most teams make is trading away young players because they are struggling and one of the reasons the Devils have always been able to play at a elite level is that they have always been patient with their younger players.

You mean like Mike Milbury did for a 10 year period?

Yes. That page auto-refreshes, so I don't know if I originally saw Brodeur third or saw Rafalski and DiPietro and didn't look closely at after being shocked not seeing Brodeur as 1st star. It doens't matter though. I like Brodeur getting the great statistics to help his chances at winning another Vezina, but the team winning is much more important.

It still has Rafalski as #1 & #3 star. Weird.

In case it wasn't mentioned, Brodeur was indeed named the first star of the game...2 was DiPietro, and 3 was Rafalski (I think).

You mean like Mike Milbury did for a 10 year period?

Case in point if there ever was one.

Wow, Dipietro should have stopped trying to be like Marty to play the puck behind his own net. He got caught a little too much. Martin definitely made a great block on that two-on-one chance by the Islanders. Great game by Marty, he was definitely sharp tonight and the post helped him it out as well. Great 3rd period by the Devils. Can't wait to see these two teams again next week.

In case it wasn't mentioned, Brodeur was indeed named the first star of the game...2 was DiPietro, and 3 was Rafalski (I think).Thanks Isles4ever11, and good luck to your team, especially when they play the Rangers.

That's the order I would have picked them. Rafalski played well defensively, so he deserved the 3rd star even without his unusual goal.

It still has Rafalski as #1 & #3 star. Weird.ESPN.com also has Rafalski as 1st and 3rd.

Thanks Isles4ever11, and good luck to your team, especially when they play the Rangers.

That's the order I would have picked them. Rafalski played well defensively, so he deserved the 3rd star even without his unusual goal.

ESPN.com also has Rafalski as 1st and 3rd.

Either someone really loves Rafalski or it's a misprint that gets copied everywhere and moves on down the line

Thanks Isles4ever11, and good luck to your team, especially when they play the Rangers.

Thanks, you too..well, sort-of. ;)

Gotta give credit where credit is due, Devs played well tonight..and boy is that trap frustrating.

Here's to a good rivalry. :)

For me its disappointing not seeing David Hale get more of an opportunity to establish himself with the team under Claude Julien. How exactly does a player make his presence known and get a feel for a game when you get less then six minutes of ice time over 3 periods? Few players can do this in this day and age. Alexander Radulov is one of them, but he's getting PP minutes with some big time linemates and well he's a forward to boot. I don't know if David Hale gets unnecessary praise on this site on the whole. IMO, he's the one player with solid potential who seems to be getting the least amount of time to prove himself and improve himself rightly or wrongly. As an aside, lets not lose sight of the fact that Paul Martin's leading the team pretty convincingly with the worst plus/minus. Thats not so good on a team that prides itself on strong defensive play. Never has been.

That's because he's a liability with more ice time. Turnover machine in his own zone.

Thanks, you too..well, sort-of. ;)

Gotta give credit where credit is due, Devs played well tonight..and boy is that trap frustrating.

Here's to a good rivalry. :)

Yes, and we all share a mutual hate for the NYR.

Did you see that Isles fan holding up an Isles, "Rangers suc*" jersey at the Devils as they were comming off the ice? Hilarious!

I think the reason why people give Hale a break over Martin is that talent wise they aren't on the same level.

I have really no complaints about Martin's defensive play, it has been pretty solid for the most part minus the gaffes he has been giving up late, but I am telling you as someone who watched Martin play every minute in the 2004 World Cup - against the worlds best players - he was exceptional, he and Rafalski as a tandem were not on the ice for even one goal even strength and were both Team USA's best defensive men and I thought personally that Martin was one of the best defensivemen in the tournament.

My complaints about him is not that he has been a bad defensivemen but that he should be much better than what we are seeing.

Ron Wilson was spot on with his newfound praise and adoration for Paul Martin in that tournament. I think you sum things up really well above. Much better then I did.

Yes, and we all share a mutual hate for the NYR.

Did you see that Isles fan holding up an Isles, "Rangers suc*" jersey at the Devils as they were comming off the ice? Hilarious!

The guy with the gold hair? Just assuming it's him, never saw anyone else with it.

That is pretty funny though.

The guy with the gold hair? Just assuming it's him, never saw anyone else with it.

That is pretty funny though.

I think so. He was right up along the glass in the 1st row where the Devils enter the tunnel. It was a riot.

I think so. He was right up along the glass in the 1st row where the Devils enter the tunnel. It was a riot.

Yep. That's the guy. Funny stuff right there...actually saw him at the Garden once, I believe. Definitely was not as "outrageous" as he is at the Coliseum. :biglaugh:

Wow, Dipietro should have stopped trying to be like Marty to play the puck behind his own net. He got caught a little too much. Martin definitely made a great block on that two-on-one chance by the Islanders. Great game by Marty, he was definitely sharp tonight and the post helped him it out as well. Great 3rd period by the Devils. Can't wait to see these two teams again next week.
3 on 1, someone was trailing.

^ Oops, my mistake.

I just finished watching the game on TiVo, and I must say I'm happily surprised. What with the combination of playing the Islanders and it being the last game of the calendar year (the Devils record is horrible in those games) I FULLY expected a loss.

I'll take the two points and be happy. :)

I also just finished watching the game on my DVR. The Devils impressed me tonight. Great goaltending by both keepers. I just hope the next time they meet Janssen challenges Campoli. Going after Sarge is pretty weak.

uhhh, this is campoli's first fight(i think) in the nhl. I doubt he just decided to pick the smallest guy he could find. Hell, campoli probably doesnt even break 200lbs!


oh, great game from you guys. Pretty even, brodeur didnt look as solid as he usually does tho, especially late in the 1st. REALLY ****** way to lose a game, on a goal that nobody actually shot, but still, thats hockey. Looking forward to the next 6 games.

I just finished watching the game on TiVo, and I must say I'm happily surprised. What with the combination of playing the Islanders and it being the last game of the calendar year (the Devils record is horrible in those games) I FULLY expected a loss.

I'll take the two points and be happy. :)

To be honest most times when we play the Isles I expect us to lose but I had a feeling we would pull this one out tonight, mostly because I sensed that the Devils had enough of the Isles domination and plus the last game these two teams played we got whipped by them 5-2 and I knew that would be on their minds as well and you throw that on top of the fact we have been playing Devils hockey the way we are use to seeing I thought we had a good shot of getting out of there with a win.

uhhh, this is campoli's first fight(i think) in the nhl. I doubt he just decided to pick the smallest guy he could find. Hell, campoli probably doesnt even break 200lbs!


oh, great game from you guys. Pretty even, brodeur didnt look as solid as he usually does tho, especially late in the 1st. REALLY ****** way to lose a game, on a goal that nobody actually shot, but still, thats hockey. Looking forward to the next 6 games.

Brodeur may not have been as "solid as usual" but he did still come out of it with a shutout.

I'll take it.

I wish we had him!

same here..he would solve most our problems on d.... damn vlad

Great game by Mr "I hope we can still get a 2nd rounder for him," Paul Martin.

Paul Martin is leading the entire team in ice time and is our least penalized player (with only 6 minutes of penalties -- tied with Pando.) And has picked up 6 assists over the last few games. He is certainly doing more things right than some of the folks on this board are seeing. Yes, he seems more tentative than ever and sometimes acts if the puck is radioactive. And hasn't been hitting the net. But his play has been very responsible and solid considering how many shifts he takes night in and night out. Hale isn't a fraction the player Martin is -- and that is reflected pretty clearly in their minutes. Let's see what the second half of the season has in store for Martin, along with Gomer and the rest of the EGG, before we write anyone's entire season off...

I have to give props to DiPietro giving Marty the game puck.

With this game (and Nabakov's less than steller performance) Marty moves into sole posession of 1st place in shutouts, 2nd in the league in GAA (behind Hasek, whose seen close to 400 shots less than Brodeur) and 3rd place in save percentage, as well as narrowing giggys win lead to 1. Wow.

I have to give props to DiPietro giving Marty the game puck.

After the final horn, DiPietro passed the puck down to Brodeur, and the goalies waved to each other.

"That was a great gesture," Brodeur said. "He's a nice kid. I've talked to him before, and he's a good guy and a good goalie."

http://www.nj.com/sportsflash/devils/index.ssf?/base/sports-4/1167533367314170.xml&storylist=njdevils&thispage=2


Very classy.

uhhh, this is campoli's first fight(i think) in the nhl. I doubt he just decided to pick the smallest guy he could find. Hell, campoli probably doesnt even break 200lbs!


oh, great game from you guys. Pretty even, brodeur didnt look as solid as he usually does tho, especially late in the 1st. REALLY ****** way to lose a game, on a goal that nobody actually shot, but still, thats hockey. Looking forward to the next 6 games.


Sorry, but I also found it weak to keep throwing punches at Brylin while his jersey covered his head and I don't know how big Campoli is, but he sure looked bigger than Brylin.

Sorry, but I also found it weak to keep throwing punches at Brylin while his jersey covered his head and I don't know how big Campoli is, but he sure looked bigger than Brylin.

Hey man it sjust a notch under Brylins belt Im sure now he can do everything except play goalie.....he came out ok, Camploi(not that I even think the fight was wrong but when the refs stepped in you stop throwing) will get his.....we all do sooner or later.....Another reason to love Sarge:clap:

With this game (and Nabakov's less than steller performance) Marty moves into sole posession of 1st place in shutouts, 2nd in the league in GAA (behind Hasek, whose seen close to 400 shots less than Brodeur) and 3rd place in save percentage, as well as narrowing giggys win lead to 1. Wow.


Midseason MVP!

Sorry, but I also found it weak to keep throwing punches at Brylin while his jersey covered his head and I don't know how big Campoli is, but he sure looked bigger than Brylin.

I just re-watched the fight and Campoli kept throwing as the refs held down Brylin.....fight ok taking advantage hell get his next matchup. Once again Sarge koudos.