WJC: Dec 28 GDT - Finland 6 Czech Republic 2

Predatore
12-28-2006, 02:48 AM
Game start: 16:00 local time | 10 AM ET
Liveticker: http://www.iihf.com/Hydra/Tournaments_07/output/w20/hydra.iihf.com/IIHF_Core/jsp/content/web_output/index.jsp@compId=96

cibtom
12-28-2006, 02:51 AM
I hope, Czech republic will win the game.

5:1

Kipper
12-28-2006, 03:46 AM
I sure hope finland can pull it out. Does anyone have any audio of this game? Finnish or English preferably.

hifk88
12-28-2006, 04:14 AM
I hope that Finland would win it, but i'm going to say 5-3 for Czech's.

lopper
12-28-2006, 05:14 AM
Both teams need better efforts for this game then their first games. However, i still think the Czechs are a little more talented and will win 4-2

illone84
12-28-2006, 05:16 AM
Finland is going to bounce back after an embarassing loss to a hard fighting Belarus. Rask is gonna have an amazing game as he has in the past, not like the one against Belarus.
Lindgren, Lehtonen and Komarov for the goals. :yo: :yo: :yo:

Suomi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Incarnation
12-28-2006, 05:27 AM
Hopefully Rask can carry this team on his back when needed. I also expect Joensuu and Huhtanen to step up and score some goals and throw some hits.

Let's kick some Czech ***!

Phenomenon
12-28-2006, 05:44 AM
I also expect Joensuu and Huhtanen to step up and score some goals and throw some hits.

It's about time for him to do something. He has not yet (incl. practise games) shown anything close to the expectations.

Scoring relies too much at the moment on Lehtonen-Lindgren -duo. The other forwards must stop the cringing and instead of having a mindset of "Trying my best to score" - GO AND MAKE THE GOAL.

Finland is the underdog, but I expect an aggressive presence from Finnish troops that will give us the much needed win 4-2.

Joretus
12-28-2006, 06:01 AM
Both teams need better efforts for this game then their first games. However, i still think the Czechs are a little more talented and will win 4-2

You are being too kind to Finland. Czechs are WAY more talented. Actually Finland have just couple of potential NHL'ers. And with coaching like we have...well... it won't help.

Fawkes
12-28-2006, 07:48 AM
It will be a tough match and I would be surprised if there would be a bigger than 2 goals differential at the end of the game. No doubt that the Czechs are favourites going to this game but Finland plays always better when they are underdogs. I hope that Finland will win by a goal or two. Maybe 3-2 to the Finns? And hopefully Lindgren, Lehtonen and Laakso will keep on scoring. And maybe Joensuu could actually finally do SOMETHING? On the other hand, I havent expected much from him in a long time. Talking about overhyped player...

Black Tooth Grin
12-28-2006, 09:23 AM
Any chance we can watch this? Doesn't seem to be on TSN...

Centre ice? TVU?

Jussi
12-28-2006, 09:53 AM
Considering the game isn't on Finnish tv until 7 pm Finnish time, would it be too much to ask to not put the current score on the thread title? I'd hate to be spoiled by coming here and see the score displayed on the front page.

Predatore
12-28-2006, 10:06 AM
Considering the game isn't on Finnish tv until 7 pm Finnish time, would it be too much to ask to not put the current score on the thread title? I'd hate to be spoiled by coming here and see the score displayed on the front page.

I will not add the score in the thread title, but I cannot answer for the other 10 mods/supermods that have the same 'powers' as me.

cibtom
12-28-2006, 10:20 AM
1:0 for Czechs

Vladimir Sobotka (Svoboda, Vojta)

Fawkes
12-28-2006, 10:23 AM
As cibtom already posted:

12.39 0-1 Sobotka (Svoboda, Vojta) PP

Finland has already four penalties in this period. :shakehead

Bruwinz37
12-28-2006, 10:27 AM
Sobotka scores on Rask........

I am torn.

KingKessel81
12-28-2006, 10:49 AM
Wow, 2 quick goals by Finland in the second. 2-1 now.

FiNsKa
12-28-2006, 10:51 AM
Looks like Finland woke up. Now stay the hell out of the penalty box! :madfire:

Filppula
12-28-2006, 10:52 AM
Czech Republic! :shakehead

Too much talent to be playing like this.

Jedda
12-28-2006, 10:53 AM
Now 3-1, 3 goals in around 3 mins

Filppula
12-28-2006, 10:55 AM
3-1! Pathetic. :banghead:

Jude
12-28-2006, 10:58 AM
Lehtonen is on fire! :clap: :)

Matti_A
12-28-2006, 10:59 AM
Mikko Lehtonen II is quietly having a great tournament so far. 1+1 alredy in this game, 3+1=4 pts overall.

Jedda
12-28-2006, 11:00 AM
Czech just woke up, 3-2

Filppula
12-28-2006, 11:04 AM
How's Jakub Kindl doing out there?

Fawkes
12-28-2006, 11:05 AM
Wow, after boring first period the game has turned into scoring contest. Four goals in eight minutes, nice. And Kovar replaced Pavelec on the net?!? Lets hope the game stays as intresting. 5-4 for the Finns?

Filppula
12-28-2006, 11:21 AM
Finland taking a lot of penalties. Cmon Kindl, weave your magic on the point!

FiNsKa
12-28-2006, 11:21 AM
What with the Finns and their love of the penalty box? RIDICULOUS!
:shakehead

Filppula
12-28-2006, 11:23 AM
What with the Finns and their love of the penalty box? RIDICULOUS!
:shakehead
What is the Czech's love of throwing away the advantage! 14 seconds into the PP and it's now 4-on-4. :shakehead

Matti_A
12-28-2006, 11:28 AM
What with the Finns and their love of the penalty box? RIDICULOUS!
:shakehead

And the weird thing is, Komarov has only taken one penalty in whole tournament.

Fawkes
12-28-2006, 11:38 AM
And the weird thing is, Komarov has only taken one penalty in whole tournament.Maybe he acknowledges that he´s the captain and therefore cant be sitting in the penalty box all the time.

KingKessel81
12-28-2006, 11:54 AM
Game over, 5-2 Finland.

edit: sounds a bit misleading, the game isn't officially over but 5-2 in the 3rd period should just about do it.

hifk88
12-28-2006, 11:57 AM
Wow! :amazed: 2 goals in 30 seconds.:yo:

Jude
12-28-2006, 12:01 PM
6-2 :clap:

Crazyhorse
12-28-2006, 12:13 PM
Always count on Finland in international hockey. :)

Glad you guys could pull it off.

Kirk- NEHJ
12-28-2006, 12:13 PM
Excellent way for the Finns to respond after losing to Belarus.

Huge win!

hifk88
12-28-2006, 12:14 PM
Well done lions :yo:

ranold26
12-28-2006, 12:15 PM
Lehtonen, Sobotka, Rask.............all future Bruins.:D :yo:

ladypredator
12-28-2006, 12:16 PM
Goal and assist for Teemu Laakso. That's good to see. Now if he could just stay out of the penalty box...

Still, glad to see Laakso doing well.

EDIT: Make that 2 goals. They gave him credit for the first one instead of Lehtonen. Cool.

KnuklZ
12-28-2006, 12:16 PM
6-2 :clap:

So 3 of the favorites have yet to win a game this tourney:

Sweden: 0-1-0
US: 0-1-1
Czech: 0-2-0

Savolainen
12-28-2006, 12:24 PM
Wow, I can't tell you how glad I am with this great win!

It's very important that Rask played a good game because of his bad start against Belarus!

It's also great that Lindgren, Lehtonen, Osala and Laakso scoring many points!

lilooet*
12-28-2006, 12:35 PM
Congrats to the Finns. I always root for them, even though they always kill me in pools.

Fawkes
12-28-2006, 12:36 PM
Great victory for us. To start the tournament with two losses would have been really hard. Now things look quite qood for the Finns.

EDIT. Not the best day for Pavelec. :sarcasm:

Starsdude
12-28-2006, 12:40 PM
3 Assists for Pertuu-verry nice

BlackLabel
12-28-2006, 01:30 PM
3 Assists for Pertuu-verry nice

The finnish commentator said Perttu had 4 assists.

BlackLabel
12-28-2006, 01:34 PM
Lehtonen, Sobotka, Rask.............all future Bruins.:D :yo:

Lehtonen is awesome. One of the better players on the ice today.

Chief Jokinen
12-28-2006, 01:36 PM
Enormous win by finland. Perttu really showed his magic and Laakso will IMO be top-3 d-man of tournament if takes less penalties in future games. But really, really fine game. Tuukka played also really well.

illone84
12-28-2006, 01:41 PM
Amazing game, I havent seen the finnish junior team with this good offense for a long time, maybe since 1998 when they won gold.
Last year and the year before their offense looked pretty weak and only because of rask did they really beat the swedes and earn a bronze.
Very good comeback after losing to Belarus, ,LOL.

I think Finland will earn the first place in their group.

The Lehtonen, Lindgren and Osala line is hot! look out for them!
Size and Skill!! :yo: :yo: :yo: :yo: :yo: :yo: :yo:

Raimo Sillanpää
12-28-2006, 01:49 PM
excellent game by pikku-leijonat, great pick to move Osala to the first line. He continues to impress me.

Oskar will be our teams mvp.

Raimo Sillanpää
12-28-2006, 02:02 PM
:handclap: :handclap: :bow: :yo: :yo: :clap: :clap:

*smilies courtesy of the wife who felt this thread needed colour and was happy with the win*

Fawkes
12-28-2006, 02:20 PM
excellent game by pikku-leijonat, great pick to move Osala to the first line. He continues to impress me.Yes, good move by Tolvanen to promote Osala to the first line. Osala was Finlands best player today. Also Lehtonen played pretty good today. Rask was solid, didnt do anything magical but made same good saves in third period and was calm. That´s exactly we need from him. Lindgren was ok, Laakso was our best d-men and even Joensuu did something (one roughing penalty :) ). Altough Finland did play quite well, we must remember that Czechs played really poorly. I dont remember seeing the red team play so badly many times. Pavelec wasnt concentrating at all and he was pulled of after 3 goals. But the skaters werent much better. Nothing from Voracek, Hanzal or the others. They have to improve a lot if they want to get something out of this tournament.

edd1e
12-28-2006, 03:01 PM
This is just great! too bad i missed the game because of work. I hope Joensuu could start to produce points too.

Incarnation
12-28-2006, 03:29 PM
Quick review:

1st line did some serious damage out there and will do in the future too. This line's forwards almost fit to classical roles: Osala (does the dirty work) - Lindgren (the playmaker) - Lehtonen (the goalscorer).
4th line played also very well.
I'm happy to see that this team can make some goals after all.

But the numbers don't tell it all. Czechs had their moments and I think Finland should be relieved that Czechs got only 2 goals. Czechs were unfortunate, lucky for our team.

Did anyone else notice how good player Komarov is? He scored nice goal, I didn't see him lose any faceoffs (stats, anyone?) and made some nice play.
Can you imagine that this is the guy that was so bad on season 04-05 that he had trouble to get any ice time on Ässät A-junior team?
(OFFTOPIC: Anyway, I'm so ******* pissed off because of his decision to move to Pelicans from Ässät. He has played all season in 4th line in Pelicans but in Ässät he would have had a spot in 2nd or 3rd line.
Maybe it was better this way, because with this act he showed that he has no gratitude for the team that made him who he is now.)

Joretus
12-28-2006, 03:51 PM
Maybe it was better this way, because with this act he showed that he has no gratitude for the team that made him who he is now.)

Hold your horses a bit. You mean guy who joined to your precious team at age of 17 and played whopping 2 seasons with your team was product of Ässät? Only reason him being so good is Ässät&Pori?

Incarnation
12-28-2006, 04:11 PM
Hold your horses a bit. You mean guy who joined to your precious team at age of 17 and played whopping 2 seasons with your team was product of Ässät? Only reason him being so good is Ässät&Pori?
MORE OFFTOPIC: I'm aware that he didn't play his whole junior career in Ässät but I was surprised that this organisation and team that gave him a massive chance did mean nothing to him. Pelicans coach Aravirta seduced him to Pelicans, that's for sure.

No hard feelings Leo. We don't need players with no heart for the team in Ässät.

HOJ
12-28-2006, 04:38 PM
It was a pretty good game for Team Finland, especially first line was playing well. I also liked the way finnish players sacrificed and blocked shots in the defensive zone.

Rask was still a bit shaky, his puck control wasn't as good as it usually is and therefor he gave lots of rebounds. But his movement is absolutely amazing, the way he uses his skates and pads to move around the crease...it's a joy to watch. It's good that he got his confidense back and I'm sure we see the good old Tuukka in the against Switzerland.

Phenomenon
12-28-2006, 05:00 PM
Great game after a horrible performance against Belarussia. Lindgren was a true king with excellent overall play, but also beeing great on penalty killing. Osala showed that his place in the first line is justified. Lehtonen is also in a good pace and hopefully this line carries Finland further.

Other players worth a mention were Laakso, Sandell (great battle wins and passes), Lahti and Komarov, who has the attitude to go for the goal. Too bad that Joensuu is not giving any support and it is really worrying me that we have no 2nd PP. Maybe it is time for Sandell for a bigger role?

Rask made a couple of great saves after the first goal made from a close distance, but still easily. Stopping the breakaway just a seconds before the end of 1st round was one of the key moments of the game.

Seppänen is the other one who worries me. He truly reminds of Niinimaa, who is known for his otherwise solid game including a couple of hasards.

The commentators of the game also said that refereeing was more strict than in some other games. Finland got penalties again for normal tackles, so I wish the line is defined as soon as possible in order to every team to adopt is as it will be in the games to follow.

Matti_A
12-28-2006, 05:31 PM
Amazing game, I havent seen the finnish junior team with this good offense for a long time, maybe since 1998 when they won gold.
Last year and the year before their offense looked pretty weak and only because of rask did they really beat the swedes and earn a bronze.
Very good comeback after losing to Belarus, ,LOL.

I think Finland will earn the first place in their group.

The Lehtonen, Lindgren and Osala line is hot! look out for them!
Size and Skill!! :yo: :yo: :yo: :yo: :yo: :yo: :yo:

Let's not forget 2003. What an amazing team we had. I'll go out on a limb and say it was the best team Finland at the WJC's ever.

Here is a list of the nhlers from that team:

RUUTU, Tuomo
JOKINEN, Jussi
BERGENHEIM, Sean
PITKÄNEN, Joni
MÄKI, Tomi
TIMONEN, Jussi
FILPPULA, Valtteri
LEHTONEN, Kari

Ruutu and Jokinen were absolute monsters offensively that tournament. It's amazing we only won bronze with the team we had.

Sampe
12-28-2006, 05:55 PM
Let's not forget 2003. What an amazing team we had. I'll go out on a limb and say it was the best team Finland at the WJC's ever.

Here is a list of the nhlers from that team:

RUUTU, Tuomo
JOKINEN, Jussi
BERGENHEIM, Sean
PITKÄNEN, Joni
MÄKI, Tomi
TIMONEN, Jussi
FILPPULA, Valtteri
LEHTONEN, Kari

Ruutu and Jokinen were absolute monsters offensively that tournament. It's amazing we only won bronze with the team we had.

Not to mention that Mikko Koivu was sidelined due to an injury. Yeah, that '83 age group was (and is) something else. And the 84's were also very good of course. Sweden's golden generation achieved great things for them, hopefully Finland's can do the same.

Phenomenon
12-28-2006, 06:06 PM
A bronze for 2003 team was a disappointment compared to last year, when we were not among any favorites. This year we could have had a great tournament, but I still doubt the ability of the coaching. Urama could have been good, but Tolvanen - not really. Pajuoja would have known this agegroup better than anyone else and had shown skills to get the best out of youngsters, but I think he was out of the question after getting the no 1 coach post in Ässät.

illone84
12-28-2006, 08:02 PM
Let's not forget 2003. What an amazing team we had. I'll go out on a limb and say it was the best team Finland at the WJC's ever.

Here is a list of the nhlers from that team:

RUUTU, Tuomo
JOKINEN, Jussi
BERGENHEIM, Sean
PITKÄNEN, Joni
MÄKI, Tomi
TIMONEN, Jussi
FILPPULA, Valtteri
LEHTONEN, Kari

Ruutu and Jokinen were absolute monsters offensively that tournament. It's amazing we only won bronze with the team we had.



I would say so too, but we only got bronze. does anyone know the list of players from the 1998 team? Lehtonen had a few week games that year though against Can and Rus.

Matti_A
12-28-2006, 08:27 PM
I would say so too, but we only got bronze. does anyone know the list of players from the 1998 team? Lehtonen had a few week games that year though against Can and Rus.

We had a sweet team in 98 as well.
Here is the cream of that years crop:

Olli Jokinen
Eero Somervuori
Niko Kapanen
Niklas Hagman
Toni Dahlman
Mika Noronen
Niklas Bäckström

The amazing thing about the 98 WJC's was team Canadas "performance".
Get this, they finished 8th overall behind flippin Kazakhstan. KAZAKHSTAN!!:eek: , a team Finland beat 14-1!!:eek:

And when you look at the roster of team Canada it makes the whole thing even more baffling.

These players among others lost 6-3 against Kazakhstan :shakehead :

Alex Tanguay
Vincent Lecavalier
Matt Cooke
Eric Brewer
Jean-Pierre Dumont
Cory Sarich
Roberto Luongo!!

To their credit the Kazaks had Nik Antropov in their lineup :teach:

You gotta wonder what the Canadian boys were up to, I have my suspicions :cheers:

PanthersRule96
12-28-2006, 11:38 PM
If anyone saw the Czech-Fin game, did Frolik do anything at all or not? Thank you.

Chief Jokinen
12-29-2006, 03:44 AM
If anyone saw the Czech-Fin game, did Frolik do anything at all or not? Thank you.

Well, Frolink looked very secure with the puck and he made couple of really good passes in PP. Still im bit dissapointed becouse, I expected more flashy plays from him. He got knocked from puck quite easily too..

Fawkes
12-29-2006, 12:14 PM
If anyone saw the Czech-Fin game, did Frolik do anything at all or not? Thank you.I think he was one of the better players of Team Czech. Made some nice passes and showed his stickhandling but otherwise I didnt really notice him. But then again the whole Czech Team played quite badly.

The commentators of the game also said Who was the other commentator btw? The other was Juusela but who was the "expert"?

statistics
12-29-2006, 12:37 PM
Let's not forget 2003. What an amazing team we had. I'll go out on a limb and say it was the best team Finland at the WJC's ever.

Here is a list of the nhlers from that team:

RUUTU, Tuomo
JOKINEN, Jussi
BERGENHEIM, Sean
PITKÄNEN, Joni
MÄKI, Tomi
TIMONEN, Jussi
FILPPULA, Valtteri
LEHTONEN, Kari


Finland 1993 WJC Roster:

NHL players:

Saku Koivu
Jere Lehtinen
Kimmo Timonen
Sami Kapanen
Ville Peltonen
Antti Laaksonen
Tuomas Grönman
Tom Koivisto
Sami Helenius

Other good players:

Kimmo Rintanen
Pasi Saarela
Kalle Sahlstedt
Janne Grönvall

Phenomenon
12-29-2006, 01:17 PM
Who was the other commentator btw? The other was Juusela but who was the "expert"?

Juha Pajuoja, who can be called expert after beeing the former coach of the best players of 1987 age group in Ilves A-juniors and also having coaching experience of Joensuu and Huhtanen from this season before getting fired.

Fawkes
12-29-2006, 02:04 PM
Juha Pajuoja, who can be called expert after beeing the former coach of the best players of 1987 age group in Ilves A-juniors and also having coaching experience of Joensuu and Huhtanen from this season before getting fired.Ok thanks. His voice didnt sound familiar and now I know the reason. Usually the expert has been someone like P.Sihvonen or V.Nieminen so I didnt recognise the voice. Pajuoja it is then. And no doubt he knows a lot of those players personally so a good choice by YLE. Juusela not so good choice.

Joretus
12-29-2006, 02:33 PM
Finland 1993 WJC Roster:

NHL players:

Saku Koivu
Jere Lehtinen
Kimmo Timonen
Sami Kapanen
Ville Peltonen
Antti Laaksonen
Tuomas Grönman
Tom Koivisto
Sami Helenius

Other good players:

Kimmo Rintanen
Pasi Saarela
Kalle Sahlstedt
Janne Grönvall

I think -68's were better and they won championship as well.

statistics
12-29-2006, 02:40 PM
I think -68's were better and they won championship as well.

1986 U18 European Champions (born 1968)

NHL players:

Teppo Numminen
Janne Ojanen

Other good players:

Pekka Tirkkonen
Jukka Seppo