GDT: Penguins at Devils, 12/26, 7:30 PM

David Puddy
12-26-2006, 05:59 PM
PITTSBURGH PENGUINS . . NEW JERSEY DEVILS
:pens . . at . . :devils
(15-13-6) . . . . . . . . .(19-13-3)

Continental Airlines Arena, East Rutherford, NJ, 7:30 EST
http://www.newjerseydevils.com/2005/html/tickets/images/IMG_0476.jpg

Medium|Station|Time|Broadcasters|Links
Television|FSNY2|7:00-Devils GameNight |Cangelosi, Fischler, Daneyko|FSNY2 Channel Guide (http://www.nyoverflow.com/c.html)
Television|FSNY2|7:30 |Doc Emrick & Chico Resch|
Radio|660 WFAN|7:20|Matt Loughlin & Tom Chorske|NHL Feed ('http://gameradio.nhl.com/cc/playa.php?url=http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia-live/nhl/9302/20_nhl-newjersey_game_audio_050909.asx','mp','height=320, width=400') or WFAN Feed (http://cbsplayer.streamtheworld.com/index.php?CALLSIGN=WFANAM)

STATISTICS
CATEGORY|DEVILS LEADER|#|PENGUINS LEADER|#
GOALS|Gionta, Langenbrunner|14|S. Crosby, E. Malkin |17
ASSISTS|Brian Rafalski|21|Sidney Crosby|38
POINTS|Patrik Elias|32|Sidney Crosby|55
PIM|Cam Janssen|63| Jarkko Ruutu|73
+/-|Zach Parise|+3|Sidney Crosby|+18
ATOI|Paul Martin|24:30|Sergei Gonchar|26:28


PENGUINS GOALTENDERS|GP|W|L|OTL|SO|GAA|SV%
Marc-Andre Fluery |27|14|9|4|1|3.14|89.7|
Jocelyn Thibault|24|1|4|2|0|3.24|89.9|


DEVILS GOALTENDERS|GP|W|L|OTL|SO|GAA|SV%
Martin Brodeur |33|19|12|2|4|2.21|92.0|
Scott Clemmensen |3|0|1|1|0|3.60|87.8|



SPECIAL TEAMS|Devils Success Rate|%|NHL Rank|Penguins Success Rate|%|NHL Rank
Power Play|35 for 176|19.9%|6th|34 for 211|16.1%|19th
Penalty Kill|117 for 133|88.0%|4th|156 for 198|78.8%|27th


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Sidney Crosby . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Martin Brodeur

Emmet Otter
12-26-2006, 07:08 PM
is anyone getting audio on their channel?

DevilsFan38
12-26-2006, 07:09 PM
Go Devils! :devdance:

How the hell is our power play ranked 6th? (I know we've discussed this, but it still just boggles the mind)

Brooklyndevil
12-26-2006, 07:38 PM
I won't comment on the game until the correct the dam sound on my telecast. How much is Lou paying MSG?

DevilsFan38
12-26-2006, 07:41 PM
Well, good news, Patty is playing :)

Toonces
12-26-2006, 07:44 PM
This not on TV or something? The Isles/Ranger game is on three channels for Gods sake.

mtx*
12-26-2006, 07:44 PM
Anyone got it working on Comcast?

Devilsfanatic
12-26-2006, 07:46 PM
This not on TV or something? The Isles/Ranger game is on three channels for Gods sake.

FSNY2 I'm getting it :D

Toonces
12-26-2006, 07:46 PM
I got it. 51 on Comcast, one of the TVGuide channels.

DevilsFan1973
12-26-2006, 07:46 PM
Well, good news, Patty is playing :)

Even better, White isn't.

DevilsFan38
12-26-2006, 07:59 PM
Even better, White isn't.
Are you kidding me? That means Brooks is playing.

Feed Me A Stray Cat
12-26-2006, 08:02 PM
Even better, White isn't.

Wow.

Martin looks a lot more confident.

DevilsFan1973
12-26-2006, 08:02 PM
I can't stand White. He was just atrocious at the beginning of the season. Unfortunately, I don't get to see many games, but the ones that I do see, then I'd rather not see him out there. Just my personal preference. He is overated and overpaid IMO.

Feed Me A Stray Cat
12-26-2006, 08:04 PM
I can't stand White. He was just atrocious at the beginning of the season. Unfortunately, I don't get to see many games, but the ones that I do see, then I'd rather not see him out there. Just my personal preference. He is overated and overpaid IMO.
He was bad at the beginning of the year, but has found his game over the past 20 games or so. He isn't overrated and he isn't overpaid.

NJ_Devil_Boy
12-26-2006, 08:09 PM
I have no problems with White. He's one of the few Devils who will drop the gloves and will stick up for teammates. I've bashed him in the past when he took dumb penalties, but he's been solid this year.

DevilsFan1973
12-26-2006, 08:10 PM
Just my opinion of White.

Unthinkable
12-26-2006, 08:11 PM
White's beating of Alberts was one of the best Devils moments this month.

Devilsfanatic
12-26-2006, 08:15 PM
Two 2 on 1's and the shooters were Madden and Pandolfo.......the score is 0-0 I'm not surprised.

jkrdevil
12-26-2006, 08:22 PM
What the **** was that segment in Stan. That just made me dumber.

Jamie1
12-26-2006, 08:23 PM
What the **** was that segment in Stan. That just made me dumber.



Yes, Yes it did. That was terrible about the only thing was the Brian Gionta joke but it wasn't that good.

Devilsfanatic
12-26-2006, 08:29 PM
I love you Travis.

jkrdevil
12-26-2006, 08:29 PM
Zajac! Ole, Ole, Ole!

Devs
12-26-2006, 08:39 PM
Who is playing for White?

Lukowich-Rafalski
Oduya-Martin
Brooks-Hale

EDIT: Nevermind, got it. Pandolfo will sit for tripping

Devs
12-26-2006, 08:44 PM
Doc Emerick proposing that the NHL should only allow wood sticks after Oduya breaks his on a one on two. While I normally think he's on the ball, I have no idea who would want this. He also wondered if wood sticks would be more expensive. As a hockey player, I just paid 29.95 for a SherWood 5030. I have seen them as cheap as 15.00, up to 30. SherWood 9950s can run from 20 to 40. Now, to get a comparable composite stick, I would need to pay at least 120.

Keep the composite sticks. They're lighter and allow skilled players to do more.

Devs
12-26-2006, 08:46 PM
Gomez puts an arm around Dominic Moore, and while hugs are encouraged sometimes, he will sit for 2

Feed Me A Stray Cat
12-26-2006, 08:49 PM
Martin has had a very good game so far.

Devilsfanatic
12-26-2006, 08:51 PM
Crosby wants to fight Janssen.....alright Sid, go for it.

Devs
12-26-2006, 08:51 PM
Great play by Crosby, passes over to Malone who rings one off the crossbar! I think Marty got a piece of it.

And I do hope they show a replay of Crosby going after Janssen. Good for him to stick up for his teammate.

:biglaugh: to Crosby giving Janssen a facewash

Feed Me A Stray Cat
12-26-2006, 08:54 PM
How are the Devils not on the PP? Crosby was the one who instigated the entire thing.

Devilsfanatic
12-26-2006, 08:58 PM
Fleury with his Marty impression on Rafalski.

Devs
12-26-2006, 09:02 PM
And the Devils are up 1-0 at the end of the 2nd, thanks to Travis Zajac.

Quiet GDT tonight

Devilsfanatic
12-26-2006, 09:05 PM
And the Devils are up 1-0 at the end of the 2nd, thanks to Travis Zajac.

Quiet GDT tonight

People are probably still in holiday mode.

Devs
12-26-2006, 09:10 PM
B..B.. But hockey is the holidays!

At least, that's when tornaments were. Also, this is my scheduled time to complain about the Knicks commericials.

Craig Billington with the first faceoff? No Sean Burke? Kevin Todd? :sarcasm:

DevilsFan38
12-26-2006, 09:18 PM
And the Devils are up 1-0 at the end of the 2nd, thanks to Travis Zajac.

Quiet GDT tonight
I'm at my aunt and uncle's in Florida till the 1st, so I'm a bit less active than usual (this does NOT mean it's time to wreak havoc ;) ).

Devs
12-26-2006, 09:20 PM
I'm at my aunt and uncle's in Florida till the 1st, so I'm a bit less active than usual (this does NOT mean it's time to wreak havoc ;) ).

It'd be like a little Christmas present!

Madden lines up against Crosby as the third period is underway.

EDIT: Madden takes an unsportsman-like and will sit for two.

Devilsfanatic
12-26-2006, 09:20 PM
I'm at my aunt and uncle's in Florida till the 1st, so I'm a bit less active than usual (this does NOT mean it's time to wreak havoc ;) ).

Too late, I already ate Lou is God's chocolate covered squirrel.

Devs
12-26-2006, 09:24 PM
MARTY! Huge saves!

Feed Me A Stray Cat
12-26-2006, 09:25 PM
Terrific PK by Martin. He's having a great game. Good to see him getting out of this funk.

Devs
12-26-2006, 09:27 PM
Rafalski with the biggest hit of the game... on Parise :banghead:

Parise went straight to the bench after, hope he's ok.

Devs
12-26-2006, 09:32 PM
Brooks Orpik will sit for 2. In other news, Parise and Rafalski are back in action.

feerlessleadr
12-26-2006, 09:34 PM
score anyone?

still 1- zip?

how are we playing out there

Devs
12-26-2006, 09:37 PM
Elias makes his way very slowly after being kicked in the face.

Now Lukowich is down on the ice after hurting his knee in a collision with Armstrong.

Devilsfanatic
12-26-2006, 09:37 PM
Dropping like flies, Lukowich might be done for awhile. could free up enough CS for Matvichuk.

Devs
12-26-2006, 09:38 PM
score anyone?

still 1- zip?

how are we playing out there

Still 1-0 Devils, Zajac with the goal. 10:26 left in the 3rd, and the Devils are playing decently.

Devils powerplay as Armstrong will sit for hooking Lukowich

TB Sheets
12-26-2006, 09:39 PM
Stupidest friggin' thing: I live in Lancaster, PA, which is about 90 minutes from Philadelphia, but is SIX HOURS from Pittsburgh. But some genius who supposedly figured out fan areas declared Lancaster County a blackout area for the Penguins. So every Devils-Pens game on Center Ice is blacked out for me.

Here's the stupid part: there aren't any local Pens broadcasts for me to watch instead of the Center Ice feed (part of what blackouts are supposed to do is force the TV viewer to watch the local broadcast instead of the national feed). I get local broadcasts of both Flyers and Capitals (2.5 hours south of me) games, though those Center Ice games aren't blacked out for me.

</threadjack>

Devs
12-26-2006, 09:41 PM
Hm, Lukowich is back and playing his shift. I guess Julien didn't want Brooks out there too long.

EDIT: Elias is back as well now

feerlessleadr
12-26-2006, 09:41 PM
Still 1-0 Devils, Zajac with the goal. 10:26 left in the 3rd, and the Devils are playing decently.

Devils powerplay as Armstrong will sit for hooking Lukowich

thanks for the update

Devs
12-26-2006, 09:44 PM
Gionta on a two on one with Gomez, takes a blast... wide.

5:06 left in the third now.

Devs
12-26-2006, 09:47 PM
Pandolfo! 2-0!

Madden shovels it in front, and Brylin takes the shot. Save Fluery, rebound Pandolfo on the side of the net. A good goal for the Madden line. Three and a quarter left now.

Killiecrankie*
12-26-2006, 09:47 PM
I respect the devils but...I wish we werent in a division with you guys, ur the ablsolute most boring team in the league. How do you put up with these snooze fest game in and game out. Got to respect you, dont hate your fans but I really cant stand watching these games.

Feed Me A Stray Cat
12-26-2006, 09:49 PM
Got to respect you, dont hate your fans but I really cant stand watching these games.

No one cares.

Lukowich has had a good game.

Devs
12-26-2006, 09:51 PM
...and Lukowich lucks out when he deflects a Crosby pass and beats Brodeur, only to ring it off the crossbar. Marty covers up after the Penguins recover and rush the zone again. About two minutes left now, and with a TV timeout, the Madden line gets some rest. They'll be out for the majority of the game.

mtx*
12-26-2006, 09:51 PM
I respect the devils but...I wish we werent in a division with you guys, ur the ablsolute most boring team in the league. How do you put up with these snooze fest game in and game out. Got to respect you, dont hate your fans but I really cant stand watching these games.

And what's so good about Pittsburgh?

Devs
12-26-2006, 09:52 PM
Gionta! 3-0!

Elias with a great pass on a two on one, and Gio roofs it over Fluery's glove on the backhand.

Less than 2 minutes left. Gionta also records his 100th career goal.

EDIT: Devils will be on the PSE&G POWERPLAY for the rest of the game as a Penguin takes a penalty

TB Sheets
12-26-2006, 09:52 PM
I respect the devils but...I wish we werent in a division with you guys, ur the ablsolute most boring team in the league. How do you put up with these snooze fest game in and game out. Got to respect you, dont hate your fans but I really cant stand watching these games.

What a nice thing to say. :shakehead

I seriously hope the Penguins leave Pittsburgh, by the way. :dunce:

mtx*
12-26-2006, 09:53 PM
And now we're firing on all cylinders. So much for this game being "boring".

Killiecrankie*
12-26-2006, 09:53 PM
And what's so good about Pittsburgh?

even if we lose we are sooo much more entertaining. I guess you guys win and im not starting stuff because i have no emotion in nj games cause I cant get into it. You have no forcheck, you play 1-4, its just terrible watching you and I hate having to watch 4 games live. MArty is my favorite goalie though(he gave me his stick a couple years ago)

Tao Jones
12-26-2006, 09:53 PM
I respect the devils but...I wish we werent in a division with you guys, ur the ablsolute most boring team in the league. How do you put up with these snooze fest game in and game out. Got to respect you, dont hate your fans but I really cant stand watching these games.

Funny, I was just about to post how boring the Pens play has been tonight.

There's an EGG goal just for you.:)

Feed Me A Stray Cat
12-26-2006, 09:54 PM
even if we lose we are sooo much more entertaining. I guess you guys win and im not starting stuff because i have no emotion in nj games cause I cant get into it. You have no forcheck, you play 1-4, its just terrible watching you and I hate having to watch 4 games live. MArty is my favorite goalie though(he gave me his stick a couple years ago)

Devils > Penguins

Devilsfanatic
12-26-2006, 09:55 PM
SHUTOUT #85!!! Atta boy Marty, this is a sweet way to come back, poor Staal, he's going to cry by the looks of it.

Big McLargehuge
12-26-2006, 09:55 PM
And now we're firing on all cylinders. So much for this game being "boring".

I fell asleep about 4 times during this game...one fast break make not an entertaining product.


I can't wait until we're out of this division, I can't stand watching this dreck eight times a year.




I have all the respect in the world for the Devils but this is ridiculous.

TB Sheets
12-26-2006, 09:56 PM
even if we lose we are sooo much more entertaining. I guess you guys win and im not starting stuff because i have no emotion in nj games cause I cant get into it. You have no forcheck, you play 1-4, its just terrible watching you and I hate having to watch 4 games live. MArty is my favorite goalie though(he gave me his stick a couple years ago)

Don't buy into the anti-Devils press. The Devils have plenty of forecheck, and when fans of other teams say a game is boring, most Devils fans disagree. Why? Because, while the game may be boring for the other team when they are stifled, the Devils usually have a counterattack going and get plenty of offensive chances. But all of the action is usually one-sided and seems boring to the other team's fans.

Devs
12-26-2006, 09:56 PM
Stupid move Jordan Staal. You don't slew foot Martin Brodeur with 3 seconds left in the game. Jamie Langenbrunner goes after him in the corner.

borrachon
12-26-2006, 09:56 PM
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=28265


I would be bored if my team didn't score too.

Feed Me A Stray Cat
12-26-2006, 09:56 PM
I fell asleep about 4 times during this game...one fast break make not an entertaining product.


I can't wait until we're out of this division, I can't stand watching this dreck eight times a year.




I have all the respect in the world for the Devils but this is ridiculous.

Pens fans, so bitter.

Killiecrankie*
12-26-2006, 09:57 PM
Devils > Penguins

obviously I never said that geez. Pittsburgh is a team based on the rush, back and forth hockey the devils will beat us until we get another good dman and a few good wingers and experience.

NANDOAL
12-26-2006, 09:57 PM
I hope Marty gets run over by a car! God you guys are ****in' boring...Play hockey you *******!

Devilsfanatic
12-26-2006, 09:57 PM
I fell asleep about 4 times during this game...one fast break make not an entertaining product.


I can't wait until we're out of this division, I can't stand watching this dreck eight times a year.




I have all the respect in the world for the Devils but this is ridiculous.

Well, we can't wait till you guys are gone either. I don't want to play Malkin and Crosby 8 times a year either. Go to Winnipeg.

Devilsfanatic
12-26-2006, 09:58 PM
I hope Marty gets run over by a car! God you guys are ****in' boring...Play hockey you *******!

I hope you get run over by a boat.

NANDOAL
12-26-2006, 09:59 PM
I hope you get run over by a boat.


A boat? Ok cool..:dunno:

Killiecrankie*
12-26-2006, 09:59 PM
Don't buy into the anti-Devils press. The Devils have plenty of forecheck, and when fans of other teams say a game is boring, most Devils fans disagree. Why? Because, while the game may be boring for the other team when they are stifled, the Devils usually have a counterattack going and get plenty of offensive chances. But all of the action is usually one-sided and seems boring to the other team's fans.

Um you didnt forcheck at all tonight, you know the pens rush would beat you so you played trap trap trap and just capitilized on our turnovers. Typical devils win, good job, enjoy. I just hate having to spend 150$ a ticket for 4 games a year of this crap. I hate this schedule.

Brooklyndevil
12-26-2006, 10:00 PM
Pretty good all-around game by the Devils. Not many break downs at all.

Brooklyndevil
12-26-2006, 10:02 PM
Pens fans, so bitter.


Maybe not for long. Kansas City here they come.

Devs
12-26-2006, 10:02 PM
even if we lose we are sooo much more entertaining. I guess you guys win and im not starting stuff because i have no emotion in nj games cause I cant get into it. You have no forcheck, you play 1-4, its just terrible watching you and I hate having to watch 4 games live. MArty is my favorite goalie though(he gave me his stick a couple years ago)

A 1-4? Have you actually been watching the game? The Devils have been playing either a 2-1-2 or a 1-2-2.

Talk about exciting all you want, but in the end, its the wins that matter. I don't care how "boring" fans of other teams may view the Devils. All I need to point to is the three Stanley Cup banners hanging at Continental, and in the end, that's all that matters. Tell me, was the Gionta goal "boring"? Elias drawing Gonchar and threading a pass between Gonchar's stick and skate to Gionta's tape, and Gio lifting it over your goalie? Or how about Crosby, Malkin, and Malone all being stopped by Brodeur while he's swimming around in the crease?

The Penguins "exciting" brand of hockey scored zero goals tonight, and leave the arena with a loss. How is that better than winning? Some people may feel that the Penguins play a prettier game, and that's fine. We, as Devils fans, expect wins, no matter how pretty they are. That's where the Devils' success comes from. Sorry if you find it boring.

haakon84
12-26-2006, 10:02 PM
I fell asleep about 4 times during this game...one fast break make not an entertaining product.


I can't wait until we're out of this division, I can't stand watching this dreck eight times a year.




I have all the respect in the world for the Devils but this is ridiculous.

Hey buddy don't cry because the Madden line did their job and stopped your ONE line. Roll 4 lines and make this game entertaining next time. Suckers.

mtx*
12-26-2006, 10:03 PM
even if we lose we are sooo much more entertaining. I guess you guys win and im not starting stuff because i have no emotion in nj games cause I cant get into it. You have no forcheck, you play 1-4, its just terrible watching you and I hate having to watch 4 games live. MArty is my favorite goalie though(he gave me his stick a couple years ago)

Tell that to the millions that watch soccer LOL.

And about "no forecheck", Janssen > Orpik LOL!

dkball7
12-26-2006, 10:04 PM
Um you didnt forcheck at all tonight, you know the pens rush would beat you so you played trap trap trap and just capitilized on our turnovers. Typical devils win, good job, enjoy. I just hate having to spend 150$ a ticket for 4 games a year of this crap. I hate this schedule.

Wow I used to feel bad for what Pens fans have to go through with their whole relocation business, but after seeing some of these comments, I'm starting to care less where your team ends up.

Feed Me A Stray Cat
12-26-2006, 10:05 PM
Wow I used to feel bad for what Pens fans have to go through with their whole relocation business, but after seeing some of these comments, I'm starting to care less where your team ends up.

^^^Pretty much.

Killiecrankie*
12-26-2006, 10:05 PM
A 1-4? Have you actually been watching the game? The Devils have been playing either a 2-1-2 or a 1-2-2.

Talk about exciting all you want, but in the end, its the wins that matter. I don't care how "boring" fans of other teams may view the Devils. All I need to point to is the three Stanley Cup banners hanging at Continental, and in the end, that's all that matters. Tell me, was the Gionta goal "boring"? Elias drawing Gonchar and threading a pass between Gonchar's stick and skate to Gionta's tape, and Gio lifting it over your goalie?

The Penguins "exciting" brand of hockey scored zero goals tonight, and leave the arena with a loss. How is that better than winning? Some people may feel that the Penguins play a prettier game, and that's fine. We, as Devils fans, expect wins, no matter how pretty they are. That's where the Devils' success comes from. Sorry if you find it boring.

sorry, im used to scoring titles, mvp's, goals of the year, run and gun. You can have the three banners if you have to win it this way. Please this is terrible and Ive hated watching NJ for 14 years. You and Florida used to be the worst. And you were playing 1-4 in this game and you were not forchecking at all. all and all a pretty terrible game to watch, the devils were flauless yes, boring as hell also.

jkrdevil
12-26-2006, 10:05 PM
Um you didnt forcheck at all tonight, you know the pens rush would beat you so you played trap trap trap and just capitilized on our turnovers. Typical devils win, good job, enjoy. I just hate having to spend 150$ a ticket for 4 games a year of this crap. I hate this schedule.

Well don't worry next year you won't have to pay 150 to go to the games.

Anyways, sloppy game by both teams but that would be expected coming off a holiday break.

Killiecrankie*
12-26-2006, 10:06 PM
Wow I used to feel bad for what Pens fans have to go through with their whole relocation business, but after seeing some of these comments, I'm starting to care less where your team ends up.

Ive always defended NJ against the attendence zealots that attack us, I am just making a hockey observation, nothing against the fans period. Im not even bitter about the loss i hardly watched.

TB Sheets
12-26-2006, 10:06 PM
Um you didnt forcheck at all tonight, you know the pens rush would beat you so you played trap trap trap and just capitilized on our turnovers.

No forecheck? None at all?

Hyperbole doesn't make me inclined to accept your opinion.

Killiecrankie*
12-26-2006, 10:07 PM
Well don't worry next year you won't have to pay 150 to go to the games.

Anyways, sloppy game by both teams but that would be expected coming off a holiday break.

Especially the pens, NJ was perfectly sharp in the d-zone and taking away passing lanes. Your offense didnt start flowing until the 3rd but you have a better d system then the pens.

haakon84
12-26-2006, 10:08 PM
I guess you forgot how abysmal you guys have been in the past and how the only reason you're exciting is because you were so bad. But I'll take consistency, wins, and a rock-solid on ice product over sloppy management and hoping to strike the lottery every year. Thats just me though. Act like the Penguins in Pittsburgh and take a hike.

mtx*
12-26-2006, 10:08 PM
sorry, im used to scoring titles, mvp's, goals of the year, run and gun. You can have the three banners if you have to win it this way. Please this is terrible and Ive hated watching NJ for 14 years. You and Florida used to be the worst. And you were playing 1-4 in this game and you were not forchecking at all. all and all a pretty terrible game to watch, the devils were flauless yes, boring as hell also.

And I'm use to watching top scorers and MVPs get S H U T D O W N.

Killiecrankie*
12-26-2006, 10:09 PM
And I'm use to watching top scorers and MVPs get S H U T D O W N.

and thats my whole point:shakehead

Jamie1
12-26-2006, 10:09 PM
sorry, im used to scoring titles, mvp's, goals of the year, run and gun. You can have the three banners if you have to win it this way. Please this is terrible and Ive hated watching NJ for 14 years. You and Florida used to be the worst. And you were playing 1-4 in this game and you were not forchecking at all. all and all a pretty terrible game to watch, the devils were flauless yes, boring as hell also.



You do realize that in I believe '99 or '00 we were the highest scoring team in the league don't you?.

Tao Jones
12-26-2006, 10:09 PM
Jordan Staal is on the "List".

Classless way to congratulate Marty passing Glenn Hall in SO.:shakehead

Pens may have talent but Crosby and Co. showed their lack of maturity tonight.

Hope Crosby keeps putting himself in the box facing off with the likes of Janssen.

Crosby in the penalty box = boring for the new NHL.


Way to go all around team effort from all 4 lines and the White-less D, as it should be for a Brodeur milestone.

Killiecrankie*
12-26-2006, 10:10 PM
You do realize that in I believe '99 or '00 we were the highest scoring team in the league don't you?.

2001, the year you beat us in the cf. That was a dynasty devils team that was perfectly loaded.

Devs
12-26-2006, 10:10 PM
sorry, im used to scoring titles, mvp's, goals of the year, run and gun. You can have the three banners if you have to win it this way. Please this is terrible and Ive hated watching NJ for 14 years. You and Florida used to be the worst. And you were playing 1-4 in this game and you were not forchecking at all. all and all a pretty terrible game to watch, the devils were flauless yes, boring as hell also.

Do you even know what a 1-4 is? If the Devils were playing a 1-4, how did Elias and Gionta get loose for the third goal? How did the Madden line come down 3 on 3 for the second goal? And yes, I'll take championship celebrations over "mvp's, goals of the year, run and gun".

You can't watch that brand of hockey when that team has to schedule tee times in early April.

As an aside, I wish we wouldn't take potshots at the possibility of Penguins moving to where ever. Let's just deal with this one game

Ronnie Bass
12-26-2006, 10:11 PM
sorry, im used to scoring titles, mvp's, goals of the year, run and gun. You can have the three banners if you have to win it this way. Please this is terrible and Ive hated watching NJ for 14 years. You and Florida used to be the worst. And you were playing 1-4 in this game and you were not forchecking at all. all and all a pretty terrible game to watch, the devils were flauless yes, boring as hell also.

Look man, you guys were the ones who were boring tonight, don't blame us.

Jamie1
12-26-2006, 10:12 PM
Look man, you guys were the ones who were boring tonight, don't blame us.



It's easier. We can be the lightning rod of hate.

Killiecrankie*
12-26-2006, 10:12 PM
Look man, you guys were the ones who were boring tonight, don't blame us.

I agree, but come on you guys helped the issue:sarcasm:

Jamie1
12-26-2006, 10:13 PM
I agree, but come on you guys helped the issue:sarcasm:


One of our defensemen could have said hey crosby just go right past me and have a nice shot on goal.

Muttley
12-26-2006, 10:14 PM
wow, Pens fans are behaving like NYR & Flyer fans (and sometimes Leafs) tonight. I've never seen/heard Penn fans like this. I guess it's a little of the stress from fear of losing your team to another city.

Killiecrankie*
12-26-2006, 10:14 PM
One of our defensemen could have said hey crosby just go right past me and have a nice shot on goal.

or how about two defensemen and Malkin:D

mtx*
12-26-2006, 10:16 PM
and thats my whole point:shakehead

Maybe Brodeur should pull a Fleury and score on his own net.

THAT WOULD BE SO ENTERTAINING.

Jamie1
12-26-2006, 10:16 PM
or how about two defensemen and Malkin:D


Sure why not our entire line should have just stayed at the bench.

Killiecrankie*
12-26-2006, 10:16 PM
well good luck the rest of the way this season, im out. And believe me I respect NJ and dont hate you guys like PHI, NYR, NYI but I really dont liek the way you play. Us sorta like the steelers of the NFL, and Id rather watch the Colts..

Ronnie Bass
12-26-2006, 10:18 PM
I agree, but come on you guys helped the issue:sarcasm:

Yeah, by playing to win, excuse us for our ignorance.

Devs
12-26-2006, 10:18 PM
or how about two defensemen and Malkin:D

One great play, sure. The way how the past few years have turned out though, he'll get to shoot for a hole in one with Ovechkin in April.

haakon84
12-26-2006, 10:19 PM
well good luck the rest of the way this season, im out. And believe me I respect NJ and dont hate you guys like PHI, NYR, NYI but I really dont liek the way you play. Us sorta like the steelers of the NFL, and Id rather watch the Colts..

It's cool, some people prefer Fast Food over a well cooked Filet Mignon. I just happen to prefer the latter.

Tao Jones
12-26-2006, 10:20 PM
Not as entertaining as a closed door lottery drawing for sid the kid...dwelling in the basement for #1 draft picks...a Pittsburgh tradition.

Killiecrankie*
12-26-2006, 10:20 PM
Yeah, by playing to win, excuse us for our ignorance.

one last thing, ive you guys were a press the gas pedal team you would have won 5 or 6-1. Thats not what im saying, its just your machine like quality that is boring. PEace

Muttley
12-26-2006, 10:20 PM
sorry, im used to scoring titles, mvp's, goals of the year, run and gun. You can have the three banners if you have to win it this way. Please this is terrible and Ive hated watching NJ for 14 years. You and Florida used to be the worst. And you were playing 1-4 in this game and you were not forchecking at all. all and all a pretty terrible game to watch, the devils were flauless yes, boring as hell also.

ROTFLMAO!!! Well, you do realize that the only reason this happens is because of inept Pens management (22 years ago & now) that creates teams that finish last, and in turn, the Pens collect many #1, #2 and other high draft picks. That's nothing to be proud of.

Muttley
12-26-2006, 10:21 PM
Not as entertaining as a closed door lottery drawing for sid the kid...dwelling in the basement for #1 draft picks...a Pittsburgh tradition.

Yes, or #1 for Fluery, #2 for Malkin, etc. etc.

Killiecrankie*
12-26-2006, 10:22 PM
ROTFLMAO!!! Well, you do realize that the only reason this happens is because of inept Pens management (22 years ago & now) that creates teams that finish last, and in turn, the Pens collect many #1, #2 and other high draft picks. That's nothing to be proud of.

rather hit rock bottom and then dominate then just sludge along like the blues for 25 years. ...this conversation is more entertaining then the actual game:biglaugh:

TB Sheets
12-26-2006, 10:25 PM
As an aside, I wish we wouldn't take potshots at the possibility of Penguins moving to where ever. Let's just deal with this one game

Actually, personally, I DO hope the Penguins move. #1, all the Pens-Devils games are blacked out for me (see my earlier post), and I hate being in their division for two reasons:

1) I think it's kinda dumb to have the 5th team in the division be the Penguins when they are a 7 hour drive away from your next furthest competitor (Flyers). The Capitals are only 2 hours past Philly and should be the 5th Atlantic Division team.

2) I think the Penguins are on the rise like they were in the Lemieux-Jagr-Barrasso-Coffey-etc. days of the early 90's, and I don't want to be in the same CONFERENCE, no less the same division as a team that will probably be THE power to beat and odds-on favorite to represent the conference in the Finals every year.

But that's just me. <shrug>

Muttley
12-26-2006, 10:25 PM
rather hit rock bottom and then dominate then just sludge along like the blues for 25 years. ...this conversation is more entertaining then the actual game:biglaugh:

Dominate? When? Going on like 13 years ago? Where you even alive back then?

Devils forechecked more than usual tonight btw.

Devils played the "1-4"? Huh? Please explain.

This is a riot!

jkrdevil
12-26-2006, 10:27 PM
one last thing, ive you guys were a press the gas pedal team you would have won 5 or 6-1. Thats not what im saying, its just your machine like quality that is boring. PEace

You obviously don't watch the Devils problem. The Devils offensive problems are not the "trap" it's partly because they think they are better than what they are. Tonight I couldn't count the number of times the Devils tried to set up a pretty goal by passing through multiple number of Penguins sticks and ended up not getting a scoring chance on an odd man rush. The result usually ends up the play being broken up by the defense and you don't get the big save made by the goalie call by the announcer that makes the game seem more exciting. It's either the defense breaking it up of a wide shot that doesn't even come close, again you get the same result. It's not the trap it's the inability to put turnovers from the trap away.

BumFortyOne
12-26-2006, 10:28 PM
Hey buddy don't cry because the Madden line did their job and stopped your ONE line. Roll 4 lines and make this game entertaining next time. Suckers.

Well the Penguins did try to roll four lines in case you didn't notice. Crosby and Malkin played on separate lines the whole game including the power play, other than one shift at the end of the game. They really just don't have any forward depth to try to spread out the only two guys capable of consistantly scoring. You can't imagine how frustrating it is to watch our beer league coach not play our two stars together, not even on the power play!

Anyway, I would have to agree that the game was boring from our end but as long as you guys enjoy winning that way then by all means. Gionta's goal was very nice but other than that play and maybe the one shift when the game started to get physical there was no excitement for me watching this game.

Congrats on the win.

Chico Resch
12-26-2006, 10:30 PM
sorry, im used to scoring titles, mvp's, goals of the year, run and gun. You can have the three banners if you have to win it this way. Please this is terrible and Ive hated watching NJ for 14 years. You and Florida used to be the worst. And you were playing 1-4 in this game and you were not forchecking at all. all and all a pretty terrible game to watch, the devils were flauless yes, boring as hell also.

The 1-4? Listen son, its the 1-2-2, if your gonna bash the play, then please, call it by the proper name.

Devs
12-26-2006, 10:31 PM
Actually, personally, I DO hope the Penguins move. #1, all the Pens-Devils games are blacked out for me (see my earlier post), and I hate being in their division for two reasons:

1) I think it's kinda dumb to have the 5th team in the division be the Penguins when they are a 7 hour drive away from your next furthest competitor (Flyers). The Capitals are only 2 hours past Philly and should be the 5th Atlantic Division team.

2) I think the Penguins are on the rise like they were in the Lemieux-Jagr-Barrasso-Coffey-etc. days of the early 90's, and I don't want to be in the same CONFERENCE, no less the same division as a team that will probably be THE power to beat and odds-on favorite to represent the conference in the Finals every year.

But that's just me. <shrug>


I like the idea of moving the Pens to the Northeast (Adams?) division, just so we don't have to play them, but with a rich history, I think it would hurt the league overall if hockey lost it's presense in the burgh

Muttley
12-26-2006, 10:32 PM
Well the Penguins did try to roll four lines in case you didn't notice. Crosby and Malkin played on separate lines the whole game including the power play, other than one shift at the end of the game. They really just don't have any forward depth to try to spread out the only two guys capable of consistantly scoring. You can't imagine how frustrating it is to watch our beer league coach not play our two stars together, not even on the power play!

Anyway, I would have to agree that the game was boring from our end but as long as you guys enjoy winning that way then by all means. Gionta's goal was very nice but other than that play and maybe the one shift when the game started to get physical there was no excitement for me watching this game.

Congrats on the win.

I know you've been brainwashed and this idea has been beaten into your head, but please explain further what this means and how you equate that to what happened tonight.

Muttley
12-26-2006, 10:37 PM
The 1-4? Listen son, its the 1-2-2, if your gonna bash the play, then please, call it by the proper name.

I thought both teams played the 1-2-2 well tonight, all though the Pens had a couple of breakdowns that led to two 2-on-1's, a couple of odd man rushes. I thought the Pens outplayed us in the 1st & 2nd, but we pressed & went for the win in the 3rd.

BumFortyOne
12-26-2006, 10:40 PM
All I mean is that a trap is an effective but to me a boring style of play to watch. Your team has it perfected and you consistantly win season in and out. I just don't enjoy watching games played like this because they tend to be slower and less exciting than more wide-open, less disciplined games. In summary, most people, myself included, equate a faster pace to more exciting. That's it. The Devils won, and they will continue to win games this way. I'm glad that you guys get to watch a team that is so good season in and out.

BumFortyOne
12-26-2006, 10:42 PM
I thought both teams played the 1-2-2 well tonight, all though the Pens had a couple of breakdowns that led to two 2-on-1's, a couple of odd man rushes. I thought the Pens outplayed us in the 1st & 2nd, but we pressed & went for the win in the 3rd.

It did look to me like the Pens played a 1-2-2 as well. What a terrible game plan for a team that has virtually no reliable defenseman and that only score off the rush. And Crosby and Malkin were not played together, what a surprise. :shakehead

Jamie1
12-26-2006, 10:44 PM
I thought both teams played the 1-2-2 well tonight.



The hell you say.

Muttley
12-26-2006, 10:45 PM
All I mean is that a trap is an effective but to me a boring style of play to watch. Your team has it perfected and you consistantly win season in and out. I just don't enjoy watching games played like this because they tend to be slower and less exciting than more wide-open, less disciplined games. In summary, most people, myself included, equate a faster pace to more exciting. That's it. The Devils won, and they will continue to win games this way. I'm glad that you guys get to watch a team that is so good season in and out.


Perfected the trap? Perhaps it's effective forechecking leading to turnovers and excellent backchecking in the neutral zone coupled with exceptional goaltending. Don't assume it's the trap because you've been brainwashed in believing that.

More wide open games? Where? It's never been wide open the last season and a half. The only change is more penalties resulting in more power plays. How is that wide open?

Muttley
12-26-2006, 10:49 PM
It did look to me like the Pens played a 1-2-2 as well. What a terrible game plan for a team that has virtually no reliable defenseman and that only score off the rush. And Crosby and Malkin were not played together, what a surprise. :shakehead

I thought Crosby & Malkin were neutralized in front of the net and were kept out of the slot, and pushed safely to the outside. That's good coverage. Crosby did get through several times but wasn't able to get a shot off.

BumFortyOne
12-26-2006, 10:56 PM
I thought Crosby & Malkin were neutralized in front of the net and were kept out of the slot, and pushed safely to the outside. That's good coverage. Crosby did get through several times but wasn't able to get a shot off.

Yes, the Madden line was extremely effective at shutting down Crosby and Madden is without a doubt one of the best shutdown centers in the league. The most frustrating thing to watch though is to watch Crosby and Malkin not playing together where if they were they would have a chance to have a few good rushes and score rather than get shutdown every time in the neutral zone. Great game by the Madden line.

Cry_Wolf
12-26-2006, 10:59 PM
Great win by the Devils. Loved seeing Marty getting sole possession of 3rd place among the best goaltenders for his shutouts. I guess it's nice to call another team boring when your over-rated Sid the Kid doesn't get much done.

Great goal by Gionta on an awesome pass by Elias. It was a little disappointing seeing Pando go to the box, but the Devils played effectively. There were some good breakaway chances there. Got a little scare when Elias got cut, but glad he was fine as well as Lukowich. BTW, awesome game by the Madden line as well as for Janssen getting some great hits. Martin had a good game as well. Also congrats to Gionta for his 100th career goal.

Just a question, what happened to White? I joined in watching the game late in the first period and didn't get to hear what happened to him. Anyone know?

sundstrom32*
12-26-2006, 11:02 PM
good win but Julien did not do a good job with the ice time

you cannot have 2 defensman in the lineup with less than 7 minutes each of ice time.

that is pure insanity,it worked out tonight.

we get one injury on defense and he has got two dmen close to 30 minutes



I will say this now after a decent win.............. I dont like julien, this team is going nowhere with him behind the bench

I have said after losses which looks like whining so i will say after a shutout

Julien will take this team nowhere.

DevilsFan38
12-26-2006, 11:03 PM
I came back, and instead of reading five pages of interesting discussion on the game I had to read through pages of petty bickering. Seriously guys, I know you're all more intelligent than that.

As scary as Pittsburgh is going to be soon (Crosby and Malkin and Fleury, oh my!) I'd hate to see the Penguins leave Pittsburgh - it's a great sports city with a great fanbase.

Great night tonight. The Devils get a shutout, and I kicked my dad's, brother's, and uncle's ***** at Risk (muahahaha, their mistake was letting this chick play with the guys :D ). World domination, here I come!

sundstrom32*
12-26-2006, 11:06 PM
Perfected the trap? Perhaps it's effective forechecking leading to turnovers and excellent backchecking in the neutral zone coupled with exceptional goaltending. Don't assume it's the trap because you've been brainwashed in believing that.

More wide open games? Where? It's never been wide open the last season and a half. The only change is more penalties resulting in more power plays. How is that wide open?

a trap doesn't make boring hockey. if you equate low scoring with boredom than watch basketball.

what is making hockey boring is that there is no toughness in the game anymore. guys run a goalie and he gets a love tap. guys stand in front and nothing, i realize this because of the rules.

I like open hockey with no hooking and interference as well, but bettman is taking the fun out of it. will we ever see I guy get worked over in the corners again , like stevens used to do?

I will at least give crosby that..he brings a little physical play. although if stevens and dano etc were still in the league he wouldnt go near the net.

sundstrom32*
12-26-2006, 11:12 PM
Perfected the trap? Perhaps it's effective forechecking leading to turnovers and excellent backchecking in the neutral zone coupled with exceptional goaltending. Don't assume it's the trap because you've been brainwashed in believing that.

More wide open games? Where? It's never been wide open the last season and a half. The only change is more penalties resulting in more power plays. How is that wide open?


well let me correct you, the devils do nothing close to what is called "forechecking"

they play a 1-2-2 in the worst way, dont deny it. its how they play, dont get me wrong i dont mind but its a 1-2-2 all the way

the devils 3rd forward is where most other teams defensman are in the offensive zone.

personally i think its an awful system and julien is the most defensive minded of all teh coached the devils have had

I dont think they can beat the upper teams playing this system, it requires perfection in positioning and your goalie to be solid as a rock every night.

tonight they played it well and it paid off but i am not at all sold on this team or the system they play.

David Puddy
12-26-2006, 11:13 PM
I thoroughly enjoyed tonight's patented 3-0 Devils victory. Brodeur made some really exciting saves. Also, any student of the game would appreciate John Madden’s play. It was like the old days when he would shutdown Mario “Ace” Lemieux back around the turn of the century.

Jamie1
12-26-2006, 11:34 PM
Just a question, what happened to White? I joined in watching the game late in the first period and didn't get to hear what happened to him. Anyone know?



Don't remember who it was but on tv somebody said groin injury.

nni
12-26-2006, 11:53 PM
who dropped all of the sour grapes in here?

i was at the game, and there was a forecheck. i have come to understand that "trap" is a word used by people who don't understand the meaning of the word "trap."

i thought it was dumb for crosby to go after jansen for several reasons, one he got called for it, and was lucky to get a matching from cam. but also the kid never gets hit, if he is going to start chipping in like that i feel it is going to change and people are going to start taking runs at him.

it was a good game, decent chances on both sides, what people dont understand is that this is probably the first time i can remember that the devils have two legit scoring threats. think this is boring now, go back to the days when you hoped an aging richer would score. we now have two scoring lines, and shutdown defensive line and a line of slammers.

the devils are sound defensively and pens fans should be bored, their team is severely lacking in defense and live and die by high scoring games. the wont get that vs the devs.

oh well. good win, good game.

DevFan-RU-
12-26-2006, 11:59 PM
I came back, and instead of reading five pages of interesting discussion on the game I had to read through pages of petty bickering. Seriously guys, I know you're all more intelligent than that.

As scary as Pittsburgh is going to be soon (Crosby and Malkin and Fleury, oh my!) I'd hate to see the Penguins leave Pittsburgh - it's a great sports city with a great fanbase.

Great night tonight. The Devils get a shutout, and I kicked my dad's, brother's, and uncle's ***** at Risk (muahahaha, their mistake was letting this chick play with the guys :D ). World domination, here I come!

I love Risk. Always gotta grab the USA and be a pain in the butt there.

Aside from this... who cares what other teams think of our style of play. We keep winning with it... so why not?

Lastly, Julien needs to prove his worth against a tough team like Buffalo and Atlanta. Once he wins against those teams, then he may be a proper head coach.

Devs
12-27-2006, 12:10 AM
you cannot have 2 defensman in the lineup with less than 7 minutes each of ice time.

The less Alex Brooks plays, the better.


Great night tonight. The Devils get a shutout, and I kicked my dad's, brother's, and uncle's ***** at Risk (muahahaha, their mistake was letting this chick play with the guys :D ). World domination, here I come!

South America is the key, as long as they can't invade you from Oceania.

flyersfan97
12-27-2006, 12:14 AM
Actually, personally, I DO hope the Penguins move. #1, all the Pens-Devils games are blacked out for me (see my earlier post), and I hate being in their division for two reasons:

1) I think it's kinda dumb to have the 5th team in the division be the Penguins when they are a 7 hour drive away from your next furthest competitor (Flyers). The Capitals are only 2 hours past Philly and should be the 5th Atlantic Division team.

2) I think the Penguins are on the rise like they were in the Lemieux-Jagr-Barrasso-Coffey-etc. days of the early 90's, and I don't want to be in the same CONFERENCE, no less the same division as a team that will probably be THE power to beat and odds-on favorite to represent the conference in the Finals every year.

But that's just me. <shrug>


Huge difference is that this Pens team, unlike those of the early 90's, will have to eventually contend with a serious cap issue. If their GM manages to keep Crosby, Malkin, Staal, Fleury and stay competitive---then he has my vote of GM of the century.

DevFan-RU-
12-27-2006, 12:26 AM
South America is the key, as long as they can't invade you from Oceania.

Pshh, you know you cant invade from Oceania!

http://codewalkers.com/contests/risk/risk.gif

borrachon
12-27-2006, 12:29 AM
...as long as you guys enjoy winning...

Um, yeah. The first overall pick is not the ultimate goal for some teams.

Devilsfanatic
12-27-2006, 12:33 AM
Um, yeah. The first overall pick is not the ultimate goal for some teams.

It's my dream.

Devs
12-27-2006, 01:15 AM
Pshh, you know you cant invade from Oceania!

http://codewalkers.com/contests/risk/risk.gif

I've played versions where you can! Completly throws the strategy off.

DevFan-RU-
12-27-2006, 01:22 AM
Bah! Then it aint a true game of Risk! :p

PensFan27
12-27-2006, 02:22 AM
i thought it was dumb for crosby to go after jansen for several reasons, one he got called for it, and was lucky to get a matching from cam. but also the kid never gets hit, if he is going to start chipping in like that i feel it is going to change and people are going to start taking runs at him.

Just so you know, TONS of players take shots at him almost every game. Hes gotten punched in the pace during gameplay more times then iv seen any other player, he just happens to be strong and throw off checkers...And he also did that move to get himself and the team fired up. Didnt work too well against your D, but most of the times he gets fired up hes pretty much unstopable.

Unthinkable
12-27-2006, 03:51 AM
Seems David Hale would be better served with actual ice time in Lowell then what he's getting in New Jersey. No reason to believe Julien is going to change things in the short term or long term at this point. Even with injuries he gets very few minutes on a nightly basis. I do feel he can benefit the Devils provided he gets the opportunity to actually get involved in games more then a couple odd shifts every period. Development-wise, he's treading water in this kind of hold pattern. It just sucks.

JimEIV
12-27-2006, 04:52 AM
I'm really loving Zajac...Watching this kid it is so easy to forget he is a rookie.

Would like to see use his shot more...He has a real shot that isn't being used enough right now, but I am sure it will come with time and confidence.


I think this maybe future Captain Material.

JerryGigantic
12-27-2006, 05:18 AM
Just so you know, TONS of players take shots at him almost every game. Hes gotten punched in the pace during gameplay more times then iv seen any other player, he just happens to be strong and throw off checkers...And he also did that move to get himself and the team fired up. Didnt work too well against your D, but most of the times he gets fired up hes pretty much unstopable.

Janssen LET "the Kid(tm)" hit him. Cam pulled his arms off to his sides, defenseless on purpose, and was looking right at the ref the whole time Crosby attacked him, allowing the hopped up youngster to draw a penalty (as Cammy does so well...) If Janssen had fought back, in the slightest, Syd the Kid would have been pummeled mercilessly (which that whiny little ***** deserves one of these days...)

"The Next One" had a horrible game -- errant passes galore allowing odd man rushes the other way, no real scoring chances, no emotional control, little on-ice leadership. Madden, Pando and Lukowich stifled him all night long. Malkin was invisible. Staal looked like a little baby. Some of the best young players in the entire league reduced to impotent little children. Pens fans shouldn't have found it boring, they should have found it EMBARRASSING. If MAF didn't stand on his head this would have been a BLOW OUT.

About our D, Brad Lukowich played his best game of the season. He logged tons of ice time and was not only hitting, which he enjoys, but played the best positional hockey I've ever seen him play -- getting his stick on everything, not getting deked out of his jock (as Malkin had done to him in the past -- including that end to end, highlight reel goal Luko served up to him on a silver platter the first time we saw him...)

And Madden was the Mad Dog of old -- playing one of his strongest games of the season (if not THE strongest). This was TEAM DEFENSE as it supposed to be played -- everyone responsible, forwards backchecking, players covering for each other and showing tremendous poise. Outstanding PK work from everyone. Another solid Marty performance (especially "swimming" on the ice swallowing up rebounds...)

Yeah, it is a "boring" game if your team can't find a way to put a single puck in the net. But a great game for us. Nothing to be ashamed of on our end, and quite a bit of room for improvement on the other side.

Feel bad about the Pens not getting their new stadium, though, especially considering how much excitement OUR glorious new digs are generating among our fanbase. All the Pittsburgh politicians holding it back really don't realize what they are missing and what it would do for citywide morale. A core of young potential superstars like they have comes around once or twice in the entire history of a franchise (if ever). The time to put down roots is now, with this group (as Godawful as they played tonight aside...)

ClaudeLemieux4HOF
12-27-2006, 05:20 AM
what i didnt realize is that zajac is 6'2 205, give him till hes old enough to drink legally in the states, where he starts pushing 220, maybe tack on another inch, and theres that large scoring center we keep saying we should trade for

ps
you have to take over austrialia 1st (south america 2nd), fortify the one way to get in and start reaping in the extra armies baby

DevilsFan38
12-27-2006, 08:56 AM
Seems David Hale would be better served with actual ice time in Lowell then what he's getting in New Jersey. No reason to believe Julien is going to change things in the short term or long term at this point. Even with injuries he gets very few minutes on a nightly basis. I do feel he can benefit the Devils provided he gets the opportunity to actually get involved in games more then a couple odd shifts every period. Development-wise, he's treading water in this kind of hold pattern. It just sucks.
I don't understand why his minutes have dropped - wasn't he playing more earlier this year? I don't get to see most of the Devils games and so I can't see first hand what he looks like, but from what you guys are all saying he hasn't looked bad. But I don't see the point in sending him to Lowell, he's been there and done that already, and I think he's proved he deserves to stay in the NHL. I agree with you on the holding pattern - what's the point?

LOL, I didn't realize Risk was such a popular game! I started from the Americas and conquered eastward into Europe while the guys were all squabbling over Asia (I don't understand why, Asia is too big and hard to hold). It was my first time playing it, so I was rather pleased with the results :D

jerseydevil
12-27-2006, 09:45 AM
well let me correct you, the devils do nothing close to what is called "forechecking"

they play a 1-2-2 in the worst way, dont deny it. its how they play, dont get me wrong i dont mind but its a 1-2-2 all the way

the devils 3rd forward is where most other teams defensman are in the offensive zone.

personally i think its an awful system and julien is the most defensive minded of all teh coached the devils have had

I dont think they can beat the upper teams playing this system, it requires perfection in positioning and your goalie to be solid as a rock every night.

tonight they played it well and it paid off but i am not at all sold on this team or the system they play.

Another win for us....and another whiny fan.

Muttley
12-27-2006, 10:07 AM
Another win for us....and another whiny fan.

lol, I thought we were forechecking more than usual last night, especially as the game progressed. We even caught Fleury behind his net too.

Drewr15
12-27-2006, 10:37 AM
About our D, Brad Lukowich played his best game of the season. He logged tons of ice time and was not only hitting, which he enjoys, but played the best positional hockey I've ever seen him play -- getting his stick on everything, not getting deked out of his jock (as Malkin had done to him in the past -- including that end to end, highlight reel goal Luko served up to him on a silver platter the first time we saw him...)



Dead on about Luko. I for one had giving him a lot of **** at the beginning of the year but his play has been getting better and better and last night he was fantastic!
I don't think Hale's ice time is normally as low as it was last night but because he was paired with Brooks they got the short end of the ice time. Normally him and Luko get out there more than that on the third pair.

I also was giving our second power play unit alot of **** but lately they've started scoring too. I thought Zajac was hitting a bit of a wall but last night he played a very solid game. So basically who should I ***** about next to get their game going? Martin? :D

Devilsfanatic
12-27-2006, 10:40 AM
LOL, I didn't realize Risk was such a popular game! I started from the Americas and conquered eastward into Europe while the guys were all squabbling over Asia (I don't understand why, Asia is too big and hard to hold). It was my first time playing it, so I was rather pleased with the results :D

You're all nerds.

jerseydevil
12-27-2006, 10:43 AM
lol, I thought we were forechecking more than usual last night, especially as the game progressed. We even caught Fleury behind his net too.

True...and just remember the cardinal rules of being a Devils fan..

A. Any time we kick the crap out of another team ..the word "boring" will immediately be thrown in our face. It does not matter if we win 6-1 or 3-0...it's is the Devils fault that the other team could not generate offense or get the puck by Brodeur. And even though we scored 6 times..they were all "boring goals".

I love the Devils..they generate so much hatred.

phillypensfan
12-27-2006, 10:47 AM
I wouldn't call winning the game last night kicking the crap out of the Pens. I actually found the game to be anything other than boring, but that's just me.

DevFan-RU-
12-27-2006, 11:00 AM
Was anyone here at the game? I was, section 102, row 13. Good seats, and the place was pretty packed! 16,000 sumtin showed up.

Muttley
12-27-2006, 11:02 AM
I wouldn't call winning the game last night kicking the crap out of the Pens. I actually found the game to be anything other than boring, but that's just me.

lol, the Mike Lange saying in your signature.

If the Pens should indeed move, I hope any new owner is smart enough to take this broadcasting treasure with them.

phillypensfan
12-27-2006, 11:03 AM
lol, the Mike Lange saying in your signature.

If the Pens should indeed move, I hope any new owner is smart enough to take this broadcasting treasure with them.

Yeah, I thought it was pretty funny when he said that about Niittymaki on the radio side. Lange should have been kept on the tv side, at least he knew what was going on in the games.

Muttley
12-27-2006, 11:11 AM
Yeah, I thought it was pretty funny when he said that about Niittymaki on the radio side. Lange should have been kept on the tv side, at least he knew what was going on in the games.

Yeah, my favortie was always: He beat (name of goaltender) like a rented mule!!!

HBK27
12-27-2006, 11:11 AM
Was anyone here at the game? I was, section 102, row 13. Good seats, and the place was pretty packed! 16,000 sumtin showed up.

I was at the game last night - a bit late because I forgot I had tickets. I signed up for the 6 game pack this year, and with all the traveling for the holidays and stuff it slipped my mind that last night's game was part of the package. Fortunately, I remembered just as I was flipping on the game on the TV and was able to get to the arena around the end of the first period. Sucked that even rolling in to the arena around 8:00 I had to park at Giants stadium (instead of them opening up some of the reserved spots near the arena). Luckily I was able to see all the goals.

There was a good crowd on hand last night, though this should probably be expected around the holidays with people coming back to the arena from college or wherever and younger kids being able to go to a game on a weeknight b/c of no school tomorrow. Hopefully it's a sign of things to come as attendance usually picks up after the new year (especially when the season is over for the Giants & Jets...though hopefully that's still a few weeks away).

I did like the thing they did during one of the commercial breaks where they'd go back and forth between showing a Pens fan and Devils fan on the screen, getting the fans to go back and forth between booing and cheering. Was good to have a different in-game bit. I was also glad to hear that they tweaked the Ole goal song a bit to remove the ackward edit the other version had in it and just stick to the Ole part - I'm still not a fan of the song, but it's at least a bit better now.

flyersfan97
12-27-2006, 11:14 AM
Um, yeah. The first overall pick is not the ultimate goal for some teams.

LOL...then again, some of us have to change our goal from season to season. ;)

phillypensfan
12-27-2006, 11:37 AM
Yeah, my favortie was always: He beat (name of goaltender) like a rented mule!!!

Just out of curiousity, when Sid went after Janssen, did you see him crosscheck him at all? There's someone on the main board who seems to think that Sid crosschecked him twice. Just wanted an opinion since you watched the game as well.

Drewr15
12-27-2006, 11:43 AM
Just out of curiousity, when Sid went after Janssen, did you see him crosscheck him at all? There's someone on the main board who seems to think that Sid crosschecked him twice. Just wanted an opinion since you watched the game as well.

It looked to me like he came in high with his hands but not a cross check but I must admit I flipped to the Islander Ranger game after the first replay so I don't know for sure.

Captain Lou
12-27-2006, 12:51 PM
I did like the thing they did during one of the commercial breaks where they'd go back and forth between showing a Pens fan and Devils fan on the screen, getting the fans to go back and forth between booing and cheering. Was good to have a different in-game bit. I was also glad to hear that they tweaked the Ole goal song a bit to remove the ackward edit the other version had in it and just stick to the Ole part - I'm still not a fan of the song, but it's at least a bit better now.

I really liked that NJ/Pitt cheer/boo thing, it was very clever. Probably the most clever thing they've ever done there. It reminded me of a Devil/NYI game at the Mausoleum I went to. They did the Kiss Cam (remember that???) and at the end they put two Devils on the screen. I must admit, I thought it was funny, if not a bit campy.

As for the game, Zajac/Parise are going to make Gomez expendable. I have a man-crush on both of them. Also, I know I've been a major anti-Martin person, and I don't want to rail on the guy, but he is the softest player ever. He shies away from any intimidating situation and he is so conservative, it gets him into trouble. He did make a couple of nice plays last night, but I really want him to toughen up and become more decisive.

Also, Marty is God (but we already knew that)!

dkball7
12-27-2006, 01:05 PM
I really liked that NJ/Pitt cheer/boo thing, it was very clever. Probably the most clever thing they've ever done there. It reminded me of a Devil/NYI game at the Mausoleum I went to. They did the Kiss Cam (remember that???) and at the end they put two Devils on the screen. I must admit, I thought it was funny, if not a bit campy.

I think I was there for that kiss cam thing. If I remember correctly they showed Hale and Rafalski. The whole place cracked up.

HBK27
12-27-2006, 01:41 PM
Another thing I noticed at the game last night was that the music was worse than usual. I know that the Devils are honoring past teams at different games this season and last night they honored the '89-'90 team (I believe) - were they also playing music from that year as well? During stoppages they played Motley Crue, Poison and even some Bobby Brown...

I was thankful that "Who Let the Dogs Out" wasn't played though...and I apologize to anyone in advance that will have that song stuck in their head all day as a result of reading this post.

jerseydevil
12-27-2006, 01:45 PM
Another thing I noticed at the game last night was that the music was worse than usual. I know that the Devils are honoring past teams at different games this season and last night they honored the '89-'90 team (I believe) - were they also playing music from that year as well? During stoppages they played Motley Crue, Poison and even some Bobby Brown...

I was thankful that "Who Let the Dogs Out" wasn't played though...and I apologize to anyone in advance that will have that song stuck in their head all day as a result of reading this post.

Yes..they do that at every home game..the music is from that year....

nni
12-27-2006, 01:46 PM
yeah the music from 1990 was terrible.

catching up, yeah the dev/pen thing was funny, i was sitting in section 113 (handicap, still on crutches).

i watch a lot of pens games and nobody takes runs at sidney, except for hatcher last year. and he isn't that strong or physical, malkin would fit that bill much better.

ZYanksRule
12-27-2006, 03:03 PM
It'd be like a little Christmas present!

Madden lines up against Crosby as the third period is underway.

EDIT: Madden takes an unsportsman-like and will sit for two.

What did Madden to to get the UC penalty?

JerryGigantic
12-27-2006, 03:29 PM
What did Madden to to get the UC penalty?

I believe some heavy profanity laced jawing to the refs. All they showed on replay was him yakking...