|
|
Brooklyndevil 10-09-2006, 11:01 AM We only played two games and he has us trading Gomez, Rafalski or Madden. I guess he wasn't paying attention the last few weeks when Lou navigated through much bigger cap issues. The Post should have this guy do double duty and cover the Yankees like Brooks covers the Mets, because than he would really have something to write about because he has to much time on his hands.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10092006/sports/devils/devils__lou_face_more_cap_issues_devils_mark_evers on.htm
crashlanding 10-09-2006, 11:21 AM He does realize that we are carrying 7 defenseman right?
dkball7 10-09-2006, 12:05 PM That was probably his worst article ever. And that's saying something.
Drewr15 10-09-2006, 12:07 PM That was probably his worst article ever. And that's saying something.
:biglaugh:
NJDevs430 10-09-2006, 12:15 PM That was probably his worst article ever. And that's saying something.Sounds like he submersed himself in the whole Lou is in a world of hurt cap-wise pool and when he came up for a gasp of air, this came out.
}:-(>
Classic Devil 10-09-2006, 12:34 PM Sounds like he submersed himself in the whole Lou is in a world of hurt cap-wise pool and when he came up for a gasp of air, this came out.
}:-(>
I think he's still submerged. In fact, I think he's starting to turn blue.
forceten 10-09-2006, 12:55 PM OR, he sends down a rookie or extra forward and recalls a D.. what? This makes no sense, where did this article even come from? He stinks.
Jared Ramsden 10-09-2006, 01:14 PM Just when you thought the cap talk was over:shakehead ...Give me a break!!!
Colin Whites Eye 10-09-2006, 01:34 PM hahaha i cannot put into words how bad this article is
first off, he doesnt even know were carrying SEVEN defenseman, not 6. then trading gomez? then bringing in brian leetch? come on larry, get real...
Brooklyndevil 10-09-2006, 01:40 PM I'm just curious to know if this knucklehead does his homework. Let's just say if Lucowhich was to get injured, couldn't the Devils use his salary of one million if he was placed on LTIR? We already have three players on LTIR, is there a limit on the amount players that can be placed there??
Drewr15 10-09-2006, 01:53 PM I'm just curious to know if this knucklehead does his homework. Let's just say if Lucowhich was to get injured, couldn't the Devils use his salary of one million if he was placed on LTIR? We already have three players on LTIR, is there a limit on the amount players that can be placed there??
No but they have to be out a like 10 or 15 days at least so it can't be like a day to day thing.
Brooklyndevil 10-09-2006, 01:58 PM No but they have to be out a like 10 or 15 days at least so it can't be like a day to day thing.
So, I guess his point is that we would have a problem with a short term injury?
Marc-E- 10-09-2006, 02:05 PM But, when the injured players will come back, are the Devils gonna be again over the cap(Matvichuk, Wiemer, etc.)? And sure Lamoriello has made good moves but, he has only to blame him for all the bad move he mades. I'm not sure but did he sign Malakhov, Mogilny and McGillis with huge contract(:amazed: )? I don't understand why everybody praise him (:bow: ) but he manages pretty well that's for sure to avoid all those contracts on the salary cap. But, again, I'm not sure why he doesn't have to pay Mogilny? It's a bit an injustice for all the others teams in the league? No (:dunno: )?
DevilsFan38 10-09-2006, 02:07 PM There's a reason I have made it my policy to not read articles in the Post...especially ones by Neverson :shakehead
Irish Blues 10-09-2006, 02:16 PM But, when the injured players will come back, are the Devils gonna be again over the cap(Matvichuk, Wiemer, etc.)?
By all accounts Wiemer is out 4-6 months and Matvichuk could be out the season ... so "when the injured players come back" could be more like "if the injured players come back".
But, again, I'm not sure why he doesn't have to pay Mogilny? It's a bit an injustice for all the others teams in the league? No (:dunno: )?
For the 6,218th time ....
-- Mogilny is still getting paid
-- Mogilny still counts against the cap
-- 50.10(d), the "long term injury exception" clause, does not contain a provision that players like Mogilny cannot be considered for long-term injury exceptions
-- Mogilny was examined by a doctor chosen by the NHL and was deemed to be unfit to play
-- The same situation is available to the other 29 teams if they're near the cap and their player who was 35 or older and signed a multi-year deal is physically incapable of playing as determined by the team and by a physician chosen by the NHL to verify the injury.
Please stop with the "but the Devils are getting special treatment" talk, because they're not. It just so happens that no one else was in the situation to find out if they could use 50.10(d) on a "35 and older" player; however, had someone else tried it, they would have gotten a favorable ruling as well.
Guttersnipe 10-09-2006, 02:20 PM I'm just curious to know if this knucklehead does his homework. Let's just say if Lucowhich was to get injured, couldn't the Devils use his salary of one million if he was placed on LTIR? We already have three players on LTIR, is there a limit on the amount players that can be placed there??
There is no limit to number of guys who can go on the LTIR, but it would have to be a severe enough injury that he would be unfit to play for at least 24 days and 10 games.
Everson's general point is correct, albeit obvious. The Devils don't have the cap room to allow them to put guys on the regular IR and call up replacements. I don't get why he thinks Gomez, Ralfalski or Madden would be the first to go if the injuries pile up. Dumping Brylin is the most obvious choice, Lou could then call up Clarkson and another player.
I am curious to see what happens when Matvichuk is ready to go...
Feed Me A Stray Cat 10-09-2006, 02:50 PM There is no limit to number of guys who can go on the LTIR, but it would have to be a severe enough injury that he would be unfit to play for at least 24 days and 10 games.
Everson's general point is correct, albeit obvious. The Devils don't have the cap room to allow them to put guys on the regular IR and call up replacements. I don't get why he thinks Gomez, Ralfalski or Madden would be the first to go if the injuries pile up. Dumping Brylin is the most obvious choice, Lou could then call up Clarkson and another player.
I am curious to see what happens when Matvichuk is ready to go...
When/if Matvichuk is back he can be traded. I'm sure there would be a taker for his ~$650k price tag. Or we could just keep him and deal Lukowich or Brylin. Same with Wiemer.
I don't understand why people think this is such a big deal. If the going gets tough, Brylin, and possibly Lukowich can be dealt. That would open up roughly $1.5M in cap space, which is what a lot of teams are going with. Neither would be death blows to the team.
Devilsfanatic 10-09-2006, 03:04 PM Don't talk about Brylin being dealt......otherwise we may owe him more apologies :sarcasm:
Anyways, read Jim Kelley's article on the situation at sportsnet.ca
Guttersnipe 10-09-2006, 03:35 PM When/if Matvichuk is back he can be traded. I'm sure there would be a taker for his ~$650k price tag. Or we could just keep him and deal Lukowich or Brylin. Same with Wiemer.
Matvichuk would be hard to trade, he's coming off of back surgery and has another year left on his contract. Considering Lou's almost pathological need to add depth defensemen at the trade deadline, I think Brylin will be traded to make room for Matvichuk. A lot can happen in three months, so who knows...
It sounds like Wiemer will miss the whole season.
devsfan8 10-09-2006, 03:35 PM The funniest part I found of the article is when he discussed Madden and his $3.9 million salary. Everyone and their mothers know that his cap hit is only $2.9 million.
JerryGigantic 10-09-2006, 03:37 PM Don't talk about Brylin being dealt......otherwise we may owe him more apologies :sarcasm:
Anyways, read Jim Kelley's article on the situation at sportsnet.ca
Great, utterly conclusive article on the cap mess. Thanks, fanatic.
Here is a link, for ease of others reading same...
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/columnist.jsp?content=20061009_115256_4548
JerryGigantic 10-09-2006, 03:44 PM Matvichuk would be hard to trade, he's coming off of back surgery and has another year left on his contract. Considering Lou's almost pathological need to add depth defensemen at the trade deadline, I think Brylin will be traded to make room for Matvichuk. A lot can happen in three months, so who knows...
It sounds like Wiemer will miss the whole season.
I'm not so sure. Even with the back surgery, if he comes back healthy his salary is a relative bargain, especially considering what comparable players got this off-season, and that second year might be seen as a good thing... A solid player for undermarket, locked for another year. I actually think that is why Lou would want to KEEP him. Not because his trade value was low, but rather his actual value is high (if the surgery is successful and he recovers back to an NHL level.)
Drewr15 10-09-2006, 03:45 PM Don't talk about Brylin being dealt......otherwise we may owe him more apologies :sarcasm:
Anyways, read Jim Kelley's article on the situation at sportsnet.ca
Great article...should be stickied for all those who don't understand or think it was a conspiracy
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/columnist.jsp?content=20061009_115256_4548
NYR94 10-09-2006, 04:05 PM I don't even follow the Devils on a day-to-day basis and I found glaring errors in that article. The Post actually pays this guy? :biglaugh:
JimEIV 10-09-2006, 04:08 PM That was probably his worst article ever. And that's saying something.
It was almost like a HF post
JerryGigantic 10-09-2006, 04:28 PM It was almost like a HF post
Only more retarded.
Devilsfanatic 10-09-2006, 04:30 PM Only more retarded.
and that's saying something.
GentlemanOfLeisure 10-09-2006, 06:03 PM he has nothing else to write about.
Ronnie Bass 10-09-2006, 07:59 PM You know as much as we rip the Post at least they cover us with a beat reporter - if you call him that - when we won opening night the next day the only mention of it in the Daily News was is the sports roundup section taken from the AP.
Drewr15 10-09-2006, 11:05 PM You know as much as we rip the Post at least they cover us with a beat reporter - if you call him that - when we won opening night the next day the only mention of it in the Daily News was is the sports roundup section taken from the AP.
I stopped reading the Daily News after the Devils won the cup in '95 and they didn't even put us on the back cover. Never bothered with that paper ever again.
Marc-E- 10-10-2006, 06:43 AM By all accounts Wiemer is out 4-6 months and Matvichuk could be out the season ... so "when the injured players come back" could be more like "if the injured players come back".
For the 6,218th time ....
-- Mogilny is still getting paid
-- Mogilny still counts against the cap
-- 50.10(d), the "long term injury exception" clause, does not contain a provision that players like Mogilny cannot be considered for long-term injury exceptions
-- Mogilny was examined by a doctor chosen by the NHL and was deemed to be unfit to play
-- The same situation is available to the other 29 teams if they're near the cap and their player who was 35 or older and signed a multi-year deal is physically incapable of playing as determined by the team and by a physician chosen by the NHL to verify the injury.
Please stop with the "but the Devils are getting special treatment" talk, because they're not. It just so happens that no one else was in the situation to find out if they could use 50.10(d) on a "35 and older" player; however, had someone else tried it, they would have gotten a favorable ruling as well.
I'm sorry mate I was wondering about the situation. I wasn't saying the Devils are getting a special treatment. I just felt that was weird then suddenly by a Miracle that Mogilny (who played all year long in NJ & Albany) now is unable to play.
Verbeek12 10-10-2006, 08:48 AM Give Neverson a break. He has to keep up with his cross town rival the Daily Snooze, especially after their wonderful "Torre has been fired" scoop that worked out so well for them over the weekend(maybe we can start a rumor on here that Gomer has been dealt and those no brain Bozos at ESPN can run with it).Seriously for any decent Devs news in the area I turn to either the Star Ledger or the Record, their writers are more old fashioned ie-they actually get their info by talking to people in the orginization as opposed to Neverson's style of shaking his Magic 8 Ball and making the rest up...
JimEIV 10-10-2006, 09:02 AM The Whole problem is he writes an entire article based on "What If" someone gets hurt and/or isn't performing........Which byself is a fair question, but he goes right into trading stars as the solutions with no alternative. Lazy at best scumy at worst.
He never mentions the stable of:
Pihlman, Ryznar, Tallackson, Bergfors, Clarkson, Stephen Gionta, Greene, Grant Marshall (Is still in the picture), Papineau could be a replacement player, .
Who are cheap servicable or better players.
That article is more than shameful its lazy, uninformed, and intentionally subversive.
JLHockeyKnight 10-10-2006, 09:46 AM "Others possible scenarios seem less likely. Brian Rafalski's $4.2 million salary might make room for two strong defensemen. One of them may include Brian Leetch. But Rafalski has been an ice-time leader, already this season."
Wait, wait. Ok, so I know the Flyers are rumored to be looking at Leetch, he's no where NHL ready cause he hasn't played in a while. But dumping Rafalski for two strong defensemen? Like Leetch now compares to Rafalski? I'm sorry but Leetch now doesn't compare yet. Even at his current level, Leetch would be good for the Flyers because we're desperate for defense. You're D is fine.
Old Leetch is way better than Rafalski though. Can't deny that.
Irish Blues 10-10-2006, 10:01 AM I just felt that was weird then suddenly by a Miracle that Mogilny (who played all year long in NJ & Albany) now is unable to play.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/news_story/?ID=179712&hubname=nhl-devils
An independent medical evaluation has determined that Alexander Mogilny's chronic hip condition makes him physically unfit to play and the team will be able to designate him as a Long-Term Injury.
...
And since his condition is chronic and degenerative, Mogilny will not play a game in the NHL this season and the Devils will get the cap relief they've so desperately needed.
Kind of like how Al MacInnis got caught in the eye by a high stick in 2001, but it took a little over 2 years for the vision in his eye to deteriorate to the point that he could no longer play hockey without surgery (which he didn't want to undergo and would have required a 6-12 month recovery if successful). It wasn't an immediate injury - over time, the injury got worse, affecting his ability to play and finally it got to the point that he couldn't.
The same thing happened with Mogilny ... and an independent doctor retained by the NHL agreed.
JimEIV 10-10-2006, 10:12 AM Old Leetch is way better than Rafalski though. Can't deny that.
I'll deny it. I go as far to say that Rafalski is significantly better than Leetch especially defensively and has been for the last 5 years. No question.
JerryGigantic 10-10-2006, 10:19 AM Old Leetch is way better than Rafalski though. Can't deny that.
You mean YOUNG Leetch, I presume. And although not undeniable, probably correct.
TB Sheets 10-10-2006, 01:31 PM I love his supposed reasoning process, though: If the Devils have a short-term injury, they will have cap problems, and the only way out of the cap problems is to trade away their #1 center to free up $5 million.
:shakehead
Verbeek12 10-10-2006, 03:02 PM I love his supposed reasoning process, though: If the Devils have a short-term injury, they will have cap problems, and the only way out of the cap problems is to trade away their #1 center to free up $5 million.
:shakehead
I know I guess according to this fool we need to clear 4-5 mill off the cap to make room for a 7th D-man(that we already have)
borrachon 10-10-2006, 06:09 PM Jesus. Darren Dreger, a TSN "insider" was just on OTR and speculated that the Devils still might move one of Gomez/Madden/Raf/Brylin...he even mentioned the Gomez to Calgary rumour. :shakehead :deadhorse
|
|