Portland Pirates 06-07 Season thread

Please use this thread for all information, scores, stats, articles, comments, etc. about the Pirates, the AHL and any of our prospects at that level.

The Pirates opened training camp on Tuesday September 26th with this initial roster:

2 Jon Awe
5 Nathan Saunders
7 Michel Beausoleil
9 J.B. Bittner
10 Myles Zimmer
12 Garett Bembridge
14 Mike Erickson
15 Pierre Parenteau
16 Simon Ferguson
17 Gio Flamminio
18 Nathan Marsters
19 Dirk Southern
20 Rodney Sundquist
21 Ryan Lang
22 Brian Salcido
23 Clay Wilson
24 Sean Blanchard
29 Jarrett Robertson
32 Ryan Carter
33 Ken Scuderi
34 Brett Jaeger
44 Shane Hynes
51 Trevor Gillies

http://www.portlandpirates.com/newsarticle.asp?Id=1083

The following players have since been assigned to the Portland camp:

Assigned to Portland Pirates (AHL) Training Camp:
Colby Genoway – Right Wing
Curtis Glencross – Left Wing
Kent Huskins – Defenseman
David McKee – Goaltender
Bjorn Melin – Left Wing
Drew Miller – Left Wing
Geoff Peters – Center
Aaron Rome - Defenseman
Brett Skinner – Defenseman
Karl Stewart – Center
Michael Wall – Goaltender
Petteri Wirtanen – Center

http://www.portlandpirates.com/newsarticle.asp?Id=1081

The Pirates played their first pre-season game Friday September 29th at Lowell.

The Pirates used a very inexperienced lineup and were defeated 6-4.

goals were scored by Dirk Southern, Mike Erickson (2 goals), and Shane Hynes.

Nathan Marsters made 31 saves in the loss.

http://www.portlandpirates.com/newsarticle.asp?Id=1084

The Pirates play their second and final pre-season game on Sunday October 1st at home vs Lowell.

Opening night is Friday October 6th vs Worcester.

Here are all of the tryout players' stats. :)

Michel Beausoleil (http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid=35636)
Jon Awe (http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid=63104)
J.B. Bittner (http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid=63213) (Is he signed or not)?
Myles Zimmer (http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid=69033)
Gio Flamminio (http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid=74952)
Dirk Southern (http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid=67652)
Rodney Sundquist (http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid=74864)
Ryan Lang (http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid%5B%5D=55637)
Mike Erikson (http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid%5B%5D=61769)
Sean Blanchard (http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid=24077)
Jarrett Robertson (http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid=62844)
Pat Kavanagh (http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid=25855) (Signed to a PTO according to Wildcat. THANKS WC! :) ).

The Pirates used three different goal scorers and Mike Wall earned a shutout making 20 saves to propel the Pirates to a 3-0 win on Sunday afternoon in preseason action at the Cumberland County Civic Center.

http://www.portlandpirates.com/newsarticle.asp?Id=1088

goals:

Ryan Carter
Drew Miller
Colby Genoway

Nothing confirmed but according to Wildcat on Allducks, Konopka has left Lada. He may be back with Portland. Stay tune...

Ah, same as Bergenheim.

We lost Stewart so Konopka might still make it to team...

Might be only good for an AHL level contract at this point, anyone have updated numbers on where we are compared to the 50 contract limit?

Wouldn't he have to pass through waivers too? I thought if a player plays one game after Oct. 1st in Europe we has to pass through waivers first. Didn't that happen to Yannick Lehoux last year?

Would Konopka have to pass through waivers to sign a contract and play for Anaheim?

ed: Joe beat me to the punch.

Also happened with Vladimir Orszagh, so in other words, yes I believe he would have to clear waivers.

Does it matter that Ducks already lost Stewart to waivers? There used to be a rule about not losing more than 1 player to waivers but was there a time limit or was it limited to waiver draft?

Link (http://portlandpirates.mostvaluablenetwork.com/top-stories/is-konopka-back/)

Does it matter that Ducks already lost Stewart to waivers? There used to be a rule about not losing more than 1 player to waivers but was there a time limit or was it limited to waiver draft?

I think that was limited to the waiver draft

There is some stuff going on behind the scenes so that they can get Konopka under contract.....

As to playing in Russia and coming over...If he is in Anaheim/North America by opening night, he doesn't have to clear waivers. He could have still played in Russia up until that time.

If he played one game after that point, he would have need to clear waivers to play in North America.

So a recap on waivers for Konopka.....He doesn't have to clear waivers because he came from Russia. He would have clear waivers if he signed a contract and was sent to Portland. He doesn't have to clear waivers if the Ducks/Pirates sign him to a PTO and it doesn't effect the 50 players under contract rule.

(Get the picture because my head hurts!!):shakehead :amazed:

He will be in Portland sometime tonight and should be ready to go by Friday. It would not surprise me to see him sign a deal sometime next week and return to the Ducks.....This will mean of course Ryan Shannon is sent to Portland.....As I said on AD.

He (shannon) is on an "extended look" and will need play well over the weekend.

After that anything is possible.

Does it matter that Ducks already lost Stewart to waivers? There used to be a rule about not losing more than 1 player to waivers but was there a time limit or was it limited to waiver draft?
I think is was if you lost a player, then you could then protect another one or something like that. But as it's been said, that was when there was a draft.

Also happened with Vladimir Orszagh, so in other words, yes I believe he would have to clear waivers.
Are you sure? He's Ducks property as an RFA and with Stewart gone we can sign Konopka and still be at or under the 50 contract provision.

If Konopka is kept up instead of Shannon, does that mean that he plays wing, or does one of our centers shift to wing?

And maybe it's just me being vindictive, but I would rather have someone who was with the team the whole time working hard in training camp than someone who left for another country. I would rather keep Shannon for now, let Konopka learn whatever changes they might have made this year since he didn't learn them in training camp.

There is some stuff going on behind the scenes so that they can get Konopka under contract.....

As to playing in Russia and coming over...If he is in Anaheim/North America by opening night, he doesn't have to clear waivers. He could have still played in Russia up until that time.

If he played one game after that point, he would have need to clear waivers to play in North America.

So a recap on waivers for Konopka.....He doesn't have to clear waivers because he came from Russia. He would have clear waivers if he signed a contract and was sent to Portland. He doesn't have to clear waivers if the Ducks/Pirates sign him to a PTO and it doesn't effect the 50 players under contract rule.

(Get the picture because my head hurts!!):shakehead :amazed:

He will be in Portland sometime tonight and should be ready to go by Friday. It would not surprise me to see him sign a deal sometime next week and return to the Ducks.....This will mean of course Ryan Shannon is sent to Portland.....As I said on AD.

He (shannon) is on an "extended look" and will need play well over the weekend.

After that anything is possible.
So if Konopka is signed to a pro deal he's very likely to be in Anaheim? That's interesting considering he didn't make training camp.

If Konopka is kept up instead of Shannon, does that mean that he plays wing, or does one of our centers shift to wing?

And maybe it's just me being vindictive, but I would rather have someone who was with the team the whole time working hard in training camp than someone who left for another country. I would rather keep Shannon for now, let Konopka learn whatever changes they might have made this year since he didn't learn them in training camp.

Yeah, that is a good point. I mean, Shannon worked hard and earned his spot on the team. Did Konopka...no he didn't at least not yet. He has to earn the spot.

Habing said that though, I trust the Duck management and Zenon was good last year.

I wish everyone the best! :)

So if Konopka is signed to a pro deal he's very likely to be in Anaheim? That's interesting considering he didn't make training camp.

At some point I would beleive.....I think they would send him down to Portland conditioning...which means he could be here for up to 14 days....but that is all speculative until the Ducks or Konopka's agent make an official announcement on his status....He is in Portland now and I expect on the ice tomorrow.

If Konopka moves up to the Ducks it would be better to release Travis Green.

Shannon has value in the new NHL. Green does not!

If Konopka moves up to the Ducks it would be better to release Travis Green.

Shannon has value in the new NHL. Green does not!
In the playoffs you need solid veterans to fill in if needed. As WC pointed out Konopka will probably go to Portland for conditioning for about 2 weeks, this gives the team time to evaluate how NHL ready is, and for Z to get in shape. If Konopka would've just signed a 2 way deal in the first place he'd ALREADY be on the team most likely and Green may never have been signed.

If Konopka moves up to the Ducks it would be better to release Travis Green.

Shannon has value in the new NHL. Green does not!

I am going to play devils advocate to that train of thought......Let's say Konopka stays in Portland and Ryan Shannon is a permanent fixture on the Ducks (which he has earned).

They waive Moen to Portland and he doesn't clear or Green gets waived and he sulks and retires or becomes a UFA.

Now what happens of Brent has an injury in Portland (He is injury prone and it is not out of the question) so he is unavailable to be recalled.

Shannon goes down with an ankle sprain and now they need to fill his slot with either Moen or Green or ever they didn't waive and now they need to recall Konopka who doesn't clear.

Remember re-entry waivers is 50% sale to the who ever puts a claim in first.

My point is the Ducks have a great deal of depth.....One that will carry them far but if you start to ship guys out because Shannon had a growth spurt and then help hits a bit of a wall or injuries arise....You then put yourself at a disadvantage.

If Konopka can play in Portland or if Shannon comes down or whatever happens...its not the end of the world because in the end an injury to somebody in Anaheim means a recall of Shannon to Anaheim.


Again, Don't ship the depth out of Anaheim but have guys sitting on there butts too.

That is what Carlyle has to figure out.

I don't think the Ducks would be waiving Green or Moen any time soon. Shannon's position on Anaheim is still contingent on him producing at the NHL level. If he doesn't produce, he may very well be ticketed back to Portland to work on his game...much the same way Penner, Getz, and Perry were given last season.

What a moron. Burke should tell Konopka to F-off and have fun in Russia.

What a moron. Burke should tell Konopka to F-off and have fun in Russia.

To Kondratiev, I say yes. However, Konopka made a bad choice. He went to Russia for the money and found out it sucks living in Russia. Portland should be glad to get him back seeing how many new players are on the team.

Konopka is indeed back with the Pirates. I just got back from the morning skate and speaking to the players and he was on the ice....he looked really good skating on the top line and I for one am happy his is here. I don't expect him to be here long.

He has signed a contract with the Ducks, terms not disclosed at this time but I'll get them.

Also, I had a really nice talk with Mr. McNabb and he explained and gave me a waivers for dummies lesson because there are so many loopholes.

Basically every player except goaltenders has to clear waivers on there 4th year of service from the date they signed an NHL contract.

Another exception would be the age at which they sign. Konopka signed at 22 so he has three year of exemption from waivers.....Somebody like Bjorn Melin who signed at 25 only have one year of exemption.

That's the key because Konopka doesn't have to clear waivers as he is technically on his 3rd year now.

Next year he would have to clear.

A player can play 20 years in the AHL/ECHL but that doesn't count until the time he signs a NHL contract.

That is why Pierre Parenteau, Shane O'Brien, Bruno St. Jacques just to name a few would have to clear waivers.

It was some really good info.

We also talked about Ryan Shannon and Karl Stewart....so many things and he pointed out one very important factor.

I really got the feeling that the Ducks will carry 22 players once they get past the opening weekend and get in to the first 5 or 6 games. If Ryan Shannon was the 23rd player on this team...He would have been sent down. The fact he stuck was a credit to his hard work in training camp, but Dustin Penner also made the team out of the training camp and he was sent to Portland and played 50+ games......plus a portion of the playoffs and they will take the same methodical approach with Shannon and all there prospects as they are able too because Shannon doesn't need waivers.

I thought that was an interesting view point by McNabb.

To Kondratiev, I say yes. However, Konopka made a bad choice. He went to Russia for the money and found out it sucks living in Russia. Portland should be glad to get him back seeing how many new players are on the team.

I am happy he is back because he is a friend of mine.....but also Portland didn't lose that many players....We lost two to Anaheim one for sure in O'Brien. Shannon is day-to-day but Portland has 14 returning players from last years team.

You can only dress 19 in the game so five new faces will be in the line-up....I can handle that in the AHL with the turnover.

As for Konopka F-ing off....I think that is a purely ignorant point of view.......Just because he is a hockey player and he didn't sign with the Ducks right away....he is perceived as a bad guy by some.

Nevermind the fact that he went to Russia to make a bigger salary.

So I can say that you are so loyal to your employer that if somebody offered you a boatload of money you would say no?

Give me a break.....:shakehead

He went to Russia....He didn't like it. He came back and now he has signed with Anaheim. He will be in Portland for a little while but I could see him in Anaheim at some point in the near future and all will be well and the ducks masses will love him when protects Selanne or scores a gritty nut-busting goal.

As for Konopka F-ing off....I think that is a purely ignorant point of view.......Just because he is a hockey player and he didn't sign with the Ducks right away....he is perceived as a bad guy by some.

Nevermind the fact that he went to Russia to make a bigger salary.

He went to Russia to "work on his skating".

I am going to play devils advocate to that train of thought......Let's say Konopka stays in Portland and Ryan Shannon is a permanent fixture on the Ducks (which he has earned).

They waive Moen to Portland and he doesn't clear or Green gets waived and he sulks and retires or becomes a UFA.

Now what happens of Brent has an injury in Portland (He is injury prone and it is not out of the question) so he is unavailable to be recalled.

Shannon goes down with an ankle sprain and now they need to fill his slot with either Moen or Green or ever they didn't waive and now they need to recall Konopka who doesn't clear.

Remember re-entry waivers is 50% sale to the who ever puts a claim in first.

My point is the Ducks have a great deal of depth.....One that will carry them far but if you start to ship guys out because Shannon had a growth spurt and then help hits a bit of a wall or injuries arise....You then put yourself at a disadvantage.

If Konopka can play in Portland or if Shannon comes down or whatever happens...its not the end of the world because in the end an injury to somebody in Anaheim means a recall of Shannon to Anaheim.


Again, Don't ship the depth out of Anaheim but have guys sitting on there butts too.

That is what Carlyle has to figure out.
I'm in 100 percent agreement, you can't assume the team will stay injury free all year. With Konopka back in the fold atleast we now have 2 guys that can be called up(and let's not forget about Parenteau) on top of having Green and Moen. If Shannon struggles Green or Konopka probably get put in the lineup.

the ducks masses will love him when protects Selanne or scores a gritty nut-busting goal.

:handclap: :yo: zenon IS grit.

I still dont think Shannon is going to be sent down anytime soon.

Watch that third line of he, Marchant and Penner kick a whole bunch of *** and surprises a lot of teams.

I'm withholding judgement on Shannon until he plays some real games. I hope he does well but won't lose sleep if he gets sent down.

Bjorn Melin (1) from ZENON KONOPKA

Game delayed w/ 1:19 left due to glass issue in the corner.

Bjorn Melin (1) from ZENON KONOPKA

Game delayed w/ 1:19 left due to glass issue in the corner.

Great, now why did he leave Russia. Was he too slow, or did he not enjoy the lifestyle?
Anybody know the real reason? Seems like he bailed out pretty darn early.:(

Tim Brent, his first, from Pierre Parenteau & Clay Wilson.

Jordan Smith is in the radio booth tonight:)

Great, now why did he leave Russia. Was he too slow, or did he not enjoy the lifestyle?
Anybody know the real reason? Seems like he bailed out pretty darn early.:(

I just did an interview with him today...I am working on feature..

There are several reasons why left and why he went to Russia in the first place.

Tim Brent, his first, from Pierre Parenteau & Clay Wilson.

Jordan Smith is in the radio booth tonight:)

Hey Clay Wilson! Go kid

Hey everyone,
my Portland preview went up last night
http://hockeysfuture.com/article.php?sid=9127&mode=threaded&order=0

GJ Kevin! :clap: Good read! :)

I noticed Wirtanen didn't play last night. Was he a healthy scratch or is he injured?

Review of season/home opener:

http://sports.mainetoday.com/pirates/stories/061007pirates.html

Article on Zenon's return:

http://sports.mainetoday.com/pirates/stories/061007konopka.html

Note: Leighton left last night w/ a cramp/dehydration.

He went back to Finland. Too many Swedes in North America, apparently.

He went back to Finland. Too many Swedes in North America, apparently.

As in Helsinki, Sweden?

Eh?

Eh?

Did you ever watch Die Hard? You would get the joke.

I noticed Wirtanen didn't play last night. Was he a healthy scratch or is he injured?
Wirtanen is indeed in Portland----he's wearing # 26

The Ducks signed center Zenon Konopka to a two-year, two-way contract that would pay him $500,000 if he plays in the NHL and $75,000 in the American Hockey League. He'll be sent to the Ducks' affiliate in Portland, Maine.

Konopka, 25, played four games with Togliatti Lada of the Russian Super League. Last season, he had four goals and seven points in 23 games with the Ducks and 18 goals and 44 points with Portland.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-ducks8oct08,1,6880087.story?coll=la-headlines-sports

The Pirates beat the peebee's 7-2 Saturday night

Drew Miller led the way with a short handed goal and 3 assists
Tim Brent had 2 goals
Ryan Carter had a goal and a fight
Zenon Konopka had a goal
Brian Salcido had a goal
Pierre Parenteau had 2 assists
Colby Genoway had 2 assists
Huskins, St.Jacques, Skinner, and Wislon each had an assist
Shawn Thornton had a goal and a fight

Looks like its going to be another dominating season from the Pirates.

So Konopka's detour likely did nothing but cost him an NHL roster spot that eventually went to Shannon? Dude needs a new agent.

If Shannon doesn't start producing he could be shipped to Pirates pretty quickly.

And then Z could get his chance. I'd much rather see Z play than either Chistov or Green.

What is the difference between Moen and Z? Both are physical, but Z more offensiv?

What is the difference between Moen and Z? Both are physical, but Z more offensiv?

Moen is a better fighter (bigger and stronger) but Z is probably better in all other areas.

Purely IMHO of course.

Moen is a better fighter (bigger and stronger) but Z is probably better in all other areas.

Purely IMHO of course.

Moen really does look a fair bit quicker this year though. It's only two games, but he looks vastly improved over last year.

I don't think Konopka gets the call if Shannon goes down to the AHL though ... he's probably got to wait for Chistov to get his shot as well. And he'll also have to make sure he's outplaying Brent with Portland, or he might not be the first callup at forward. Hey, sports is a tough business.

If Shannon doesn't start producing he could be shipped to Pirates pretty quickly.

And then Z could get his chance. I'd much rather see Z play than either Chistov or Green.
Chistov came to Anaheim to play for less money. Konopka went to russia for more money, I'd say Chistov gets the chance first.

Konopka is now the 15/16th forward with Brent.

Shannon is likely to be in Portland with in the next week or so.....Chistov would be in Portland now, but the Ducks are very worried if they send him down he will be claimed.

They don't wanted to lose him, but they don't want him sitting for long periods of time either......Being Shannon is the only who doesn't need waivers right now....It is expected they let him play this weekend and now they will re-evaluate him today or even tomorrow and I look for Chistov to take his spot on Monday against St. Louis.

Shannon is likely to be in Portland with in the next week or so.....Chistov would be in Portland now, but the Ducks are very worried if they send him down he will be claimed.

They don't wanted to lose him, but they don't want him sitting for long periods of time either......Being Shannon is the only who doesn't need waivers right now....It is expected they let him play this weekend and now they will re-evaluate him today or even tomorrow and I look for Chistov to take his spot on Monday against St. Louis.

He hasnt really done much so i hope this happens

Pick one - (Chistov / Shannon) or Konopka is an apples - oranges comparison and a decision that would be made on a different criteria or need. If Chistov takes Shannon's spot it could be on an economic or performance basis for a second /third line winger spot. Taking Konopka (a C or LW) at the moment to replace one of them seems to be a head scratcher.

Agreed.

While Cheesy has done absolutley nothing to impress me in camp or preseason, I'll pretend he's kept in the lineup over Shannon for purposes of this exercise. ;)

Hypothetical situation: Shanny and Z are in Portland and the Ducks have an injury. If it's Fridge, Moen, or even Marchie that gets injured - I'd rather call up Z. But if it's Corey, Getz, Mac....then Shanny should get the call.

Shannon is likely to be in Portland with in the next week or so.....Chistov would be in Portland now, but the Ducks are very worried if they send him down he will be claimed.

They don't wanted to lose him, but they don't want him sitting for long periods of time either......Being Shannon is the only who doesn't need waivers right now....It is expected they let him play this weekend and now they will re-evaluate him today or even tomorrow and I look for Chistov to take his spot on Monday against St. Louis.

Hope your right. Shannon doesn't look like an NHLer...yet.

Hope your right. Shannon doesn't look like an NHLer...yet.

I dont agree with that at all. He looks fine out there...he doesnt look like he doesnt belong at all. He hasnt put up a point in 2 games...I can name half the team that have done the same. I can see him working hard and skating...what the hell else can you ask for?

All this talk about making him sit so he can "think about things". What does that even mean? What is there to think about? He is putting in the work...the results dont just come when you want them, this isnt a magic show. The points will come when they come.

Edit: Im not nearly as upset as the writing notes...tone is tough to write.

I dont agree with that at all. He looks fine out there...he doesnt look like he doesnt belong at all. He hasnt put up a point in 2 games...I can name half the team that have done the same. I can see him working hard and skating...what the hell else can you ask for?

All this talk about making him sit so he can "think about things". What does that even mean? What is there to think about? He is putting in the work...the results dont just come when you want them, this isnt a magic show. The points will come when they come.

There are so many 5'6 guys in the AHL and other leagues who can skate well...I want to see something more from this kid.

You either believe in that philosophy as a coach or you don't. If you don't think sitting and watching for a game is productive, that's your opinion.

I dont agree with that at all. He looks fine out there...he doesnt look like he doesnt belong at all. He hasnt put up a point in 2 games...I can name half the team that have done the same. I can see him working hard and skating...what the hell else can you ask for?

All this talk about making him sit so he can "think about things". What does that even mean? What is there to think about? He is putting in the work...the results dont just come when you want them, this isnt a magic show. The points will come when they come.

Edit: Im not nearly as upset as the writing notes...tone is tough to write.

Well if he's not scoring he better be doing other things to impress which he's not and the Ducks have Chistov waiting who imo has 10x the talent Shannon has and will actually get his nose dirty if he's not scoring

Well if he's not scoring he better be doing other things to impress which he's not and the Ducks have Chistov waiting who imo has 10x the talent Shannon has and will actually get his nose dirty if he's not scoring

I agree except for the "10x more talent". Cheesy is talented, but not that talented. But he is considerably heavier than Shannon can handle himself in the corners which is how the Marchant-Penner line operates. I really want to see Cheesy prove his worth and wouldn't mind seeing Shannon totally tear up the AHL this season.

Well if he's not scoring he better be doing other things to impress which he's not and the Ducks have Chistov waiting who imo has 10x the talent Shannon has and will actually get his nose dirty if he's not scoring

Good God, Cheesy must be the most overrated player in Ducks history. 10x the talent? The guy was mediocre in his rookie season, and sucked in the AHL.

If he has 10x the talent he is hiding it very well!:sarcasm:

Good God, Cheesy must be the most overrated player in Ducks history. 10x the talent? The guy was mediocre in his rookie season, and sucked in the AHL.

If he has 10x the talent he is hiding it very well!:sarcasm:

There's a lot of reasons why he played bad in the AHL. None of them have anything to do with talent or lack thereof.

There's a lot of reasons why he played bad in the AHL. None of them have anything to do with talent or lack thereof.

Come on, its time we stopped give Stan Chistov excuses for sucking, unless he turns his game around soon, which would shock even his most fanatical followers he is a major bust.

Good God, Cheesy must be the most overrated player in Ducks history. 10x the talent? The guy was mediocre in his rookie season, and sucked in the AHL.

If he has 10x the talent he is hiding it very well!:sarcasm:

Chistov has more natural talent than most of the players in the Ducks lineup right now...he just doesn't use it.

Chistov has more natural talent than most of the players in the Ducks lineup right now...he just doesn't use it.

He has good stick-handling skills and skates well. That's it. He doesn't have great speed, a great shot or defensive skills really. In my mind, he's limited in what he can really do.

Send him our way...we'll take the scoring. :help:

Just a heads up on an interesting read on Gillies...

http://sports.mainetoday.com/pirates/stories/061011hockeybeat.html

For you kids playing at home:
McKee's gone to Augusta, Marsters has returned to Portland and Saunders has been sent to Augusta.

BTW Thornton is the C...Brent and Huskins wearing the A's.

And right now that P's are tied up tonight in Wor and heading to OT.

:arr: WIN IN THE SO!!! :yo: :yo: :yo:

LETS GO PIRATES!!! :) :yo: ARG!!! :handclap:

I'm feeling AllDucks here with all those smileys...

http://sports.mainetoday.com/pirates/stories/061015pirates.html

Any see that Gillies -Olson scrap?I heard Olson had to be helped off the ice?

This past weekend was a four point weekend for the Pirates!!!! They spoiled the Sharks home openner with a five to four shootout win. How sweet was the revenge. The game last night against the Monarchs was a nail biter all the way. Again it the team rallied and held on to win. my only complaint was Mike Wall's wandering around outside the crease. It tends to cost him.:eek:

The P's are 3-0-1 on the season and are at the top of the Atlantic with 7 pts. Not a bad start at all.

This past weekend was a four point weekend for the Pirates!!!! They spoiled the Sharks home openner with a five to four shootout win. How sweet was the revenge. The game last night against the Monarchs was a nail biter all the way. Again it the team rallied and held on to win. my only complaint was Mike Wall's wandering around outside the crease. It tends to cost him.:eek:

Welcome to the boards Piratesfan!!! :) :) Hope you have fun here!!! :) :yo:

Based on play so far, who do you Pirates fans think could be the first call-up? any particular surprises for you? I know they've only played a couple of home games though so maybe there's not enough to make a judgement on.

Based on play so far, who do you Pirates fans think could be the first call-up? any particular surprises for you? I know they've only played a couple of home games though so maybe there's not enough to make a judgement on.

Well I would say Brent or Konopka.....They are right there....both have contributed and been important part of the team early on.

10/17/2006 Garett Bembridge (RW) Portland DEL Reassigned by Anaheim (NHL) to Augusta (ECHL)

10/17/2006 Pat Kavanagh (RW) Portland DEL Released from PTO


Bembridge being sent to Augusta...I am not overly surprised...He will get some playing time and he will be back with the Pirates at some point I am sure.


Kavanagh being released........I am very surprised....He played a lot and the Pirates were very happy with him is play over the weekend....I haven't spoken to Kevin yet but I am kind of hoping that he was signed to an SPC and that is why he was released from the PTO.

This brings the Pirates down to 13 forwards which is little bit better manageable now.

Also to add to the days roster moves.

Nathan Marsters (G) demoted/reassigned to the Laredo Bucks of the CHL.

He had been recalled (on paper) to Portland but has been reassigned/loaned whatever the term you want to use to a team on the Mexican border.....It will be a culture shock I am sure from Portland, ME.


I wish him well and hope to see him again someday.

Also to add to the days roster moves.

Nathan Marsters (G) demoted/reassigned to the Laredo Bucks of the CHL.

He had been recalled (on paper) to Portland but has been reassigned/loaned whatever the term you want to use to a team on the Mexican border.....It will be a culture shock I am sure from Portland, ME.


I wish him well and hope to see him again someday.
Wow that's gotta be a blow for Marsters being demoted all the way to the CHL..Seems like the Anaheim/Pirates system just has alot of mediocre goalies right now.

How are Drew Miller and Bjorn Melin playing? I see Melin has 3 goals, how's he adjusting to the NA game?

Wow that's gotta be a blow for Marsters being demoted all the way to the CHL..Seems like the Anaheim/Pirates system just has alot of mediocre goalies right now.

How are Drew Miller and Bjorn Melin playing? I see Melin has 3 goals, how's he adjusting to the NA game?

Drew Miller has fit nicely in with Brent and Parenteau and he looks pretty good out there......He is solid on D and has soft hands to thread the needle on those tough cross ice passes.....He has a nice one-time shot as well.

Melin needed very little time to adjust to the NA game....He's a crash and bang type player and easily goes to the front of the net....He also has wheels and is very fluid on the ice.

I have never seen this before but he has the ability to skate full speed going forward and while still taking full strides and change directions instantly......His mastery over skating is quiet remarkable.

He just a mastery over skating that is a quiet remarkable.

Can we have a mix of him and Bobby Ryan? :dunce:

How has Ryan Carter been playing? Is there any chance of him getting called up as early as this season?

I think that Nathan Marsters and Mike Wall should of been the goalies in Portland!!!
Michael Leighton Should have gone bye-bye. Leighton is an old man who likes to wander out of his net. He came out of the net and the Sharks scored. The was wavied off because it was offsides. Good thing or Leighton would have been booed off the ice.

I think that Nathan Marsters and Mike Wall should of been the goalies in Portland!!!
Michael Leighton Should have gone bye-bye. Leighton is an old man who likes to wander out of his net. He came out of the net and the Sharks scored. The was wavied off because it was offsides. Good thing or Leighton would have been booed off the ice.

This was a much safer play than people believe. There were at least 2 Sharks deep in the zone, and Leighton made absolutely sure to clear that puck past the blue line - KNOWING that before the Sharks could shoot those other two players would have to clear the zone, giving him PLENTY of time to get back in the crease. This play only looked like a mistake because the Worcester player just shot the puck directly at the net, not even waiting for his teammates to clear the zone.

The mistake was made by the Worcester player, not Leighton.

I think that Nathan Marsters and Mike Wall should of been the goalies in Portland!!!
Michael Leighton Should have gone bye-bye. Leighton is an old man who likes to wander out of his net. He came out of the net and the Sharks scored. The was wavied off because it was offsides. Good thing or Leighton would have been booed off the ice.

He's younger than Marsters and Ilya Bryzgalov, he's only 25. Last I checked the AHL was a professional hockey league, not a junior league. If Marsters was good enough he'd be on the team, plain and simple. Leighton is an NHL-caliber goalie who happens to be the odd-man out in Anaheim. Portland should be thankful that they have him on the team rather than a couple of rookies.

He's younger than Marsters and Ilya Bryzgalov, he's only 25. Last I checked the AHL was a professional hockey league, not a junior league. If Marsters was good enough he'd be on the team, plain and simple. Leighton is an NHL-caliber goalie who happens to be the odd-man out in Anaheim. Portland should be thankful that they have him on the team rather than a couple of rookies.


I would watch the Portland should be thankful crap....We aren't a bunch of three year olds who need to be hand fed.

I don't agree with piratefan on Leighton but I think the reason why Marsters isn't in Portland is because of several reason.

I said this last earlier.....Marsters won 23 games last season, regardless of talent on the ice and still had to stop the puck.

For whatever reason, he wasn't given the number one position last year and the Ducks signed Dieter Kochan, who was hurt forcing Marster to play and then the Ducks bring Hurme.

Marsters wasn't going to make this team this year regardless......he was bound to Augusta at least....I am surprised it was Wall who stayed. I thought it would have been McKee.

Leighton is a good goaltender who likes to play the puck...That can be a positive and it does have its drawbacks but I think they are minimized.

I would watch the Portland should be thankful crap....We aren't a bunch of three year olds who need to be hand fed.


Easy there bro, no one is insinuating that.

how many So Cal fans have ever heard of Portland, Maine there STATIC:sarcasm:

how many So Cal fans have ever heard of Portland, Maine there STATIC:sarcasm:

huh?

how many So Cal fans have ever heard of Portland, Maine there STATIC:sarcasm:
Have you ever thought about phrasing things in a way that people would understand what you're saying?

Have you ever thought about phrasing things in a way that people would understand what you're saying?

Since when did u become the # 1 criticizer eh:sarcasm:

Hey hey, we are all allies here. The other teams are the enemy. :) Portland/Anaheim forever! :yo:

Since when did u become the # 1 criticizer eh:sarcasm:
Since Febuary 2003

Since when did u become the # 1 criticizer eh:sarcasm:
Beg pardon?

Hey hey, we are all allies here. The other teams are the enemy. :) Portland/Anaheim forever! :yo:

I think we need to start a running count of how many smileys DucksforCup uses.

Maybe CHRDANHUTCH could count them in Klingon.

Shawn Thornton was named captain of the Pirates!:yo:

here is said article mentioned in previous post:

http://sports.mainetoday.com/pirates/stories/061018hockeybeat.html

Also Augusta press release states that Garett Bembridge has assigned from Portland in time for the Lynx' season to commence this weekend.

I think that the Ducks Higher Ups should have given Marsters another chance!!!! He got shafted from the get go last season and he still embraced the fans. Leighton has been all that warm with the fans. Part of the pirates charm is the fact that they are available to the fans. By the way, if Leighton is such a good goalie, why didn't he stay with the Sabers?

I think that the Ducks Higher Ups should have given Marsters another chance!!!! He got shafted from the get go last season and he still embraced the fans. Leighton has been all that warm with the fans. Part of the pirates charm is the fact that they are available to the fans. By the way, if Leighton is such a good goalie, why didn't he stay with the Sabers?

Because they already had three NHL goalies on there roster. One too many if you ask me. The way the Ducks look at it, Marsters probably never sees the NHL, at least not in a Ducks jersey. So they giving someone like, whom may also never see the NHL but is younger, the chance to grow more in the AHL. I'm sorry if Portland fans really like the guy but this organization is in the business of winning and aren't here to cater to favorite players.

I'd like to ask Piratesfan this:

Of the following choices which would you rather see happen:

a) Washington stays here and Anaheim lands in Hershey knowing WSH had already packed up their equipment 2 years ago---WHICH if u say u wanted Marsters here had the decision been made not to let Washington leave----Marsters may have been in Hershey.

b) the Pirates face the exact scenario that faced our market a dozen years before Washington came to town---that Cincinnati was forced to make, not by choice.

Had Leighton been available last year, Nathan Marsters wouldn't have even been given the opportunity in Portland despite bringing in Kochan and Hurme late last season.

IMHO, you have been spoiled by the success the Capitals have had in drafting and playing Goalies here in Portland beginning w/ Dafoe & Kolzig and ending w/ Maxime Ouellet.

I would watch the Portland should be thankful crap....We aren't a bunch of three year olds who need to be hand fed.


I still think of the AHL as a little brother to the NHL though. Sometimes when mom and dad are feeling generous they get some great stuff (ie: 1st round pick, etc) but most of the time they get big brother's clothes they grew out of (ie: Aaron Gavey) and the little brother wears them until they fall apart (ie: retire). They usually become his favorite clothes in the process (ie: fan favorites) though they aren't that stylish (ie: good) anymore. The big brother is still in charge though and if he wants the clothes back he can take em.

I'm pretty drunk and it's 1:40pm.

I wish I was pretty drunk right now.

I wish I was pretty drunk right now.

It's like 2 hours later...we're past pretty.

I'd like to ask Piratesfan this:

Of the following choices which would you rather see happen:

a) Washington stays here and Anaheim lands in Hershey knowing WSH had already packed up their equipment 2 years ago---WHICH if u say u wanted Marsters here had the decision been made not to let Washington leave----Marsters may have been in Hershey.

b) the Pirates face the exact scenario that faced our market a dozen years before Washington came to town---that Cincinnati was forced to make, not by choice.

Had Leighton been available last year, Nathan Marsters wouldn't have even been given the opportunity in Portland despite bringing in Kochan and Hurme late last season.

IMHO, you have been spoiled by the success the Capitals have had in drafting and playing Goalies here in Portland beginning w/ Dafoe & Kolzig and ending w/ Maxime Ouellet.

I just made a 100% honest effort to slowly read this post and try to comprehend it. I now have a cross between a migraine and an ice cream headache.

It's like 2 hours later...we're past pretty.

Even better.

Luckily for me I'm having a party tomorrow night and have 13 bottles of vodka sitting in my living room ready to be cracked open so I'll be plenty intoxicated in due time.

Even better.

Luckily for me I'm having a party tomorrow night and have 13 bottles of vodka sitting in my living room ready to be cracked open so I'll be plenty intoxicated in due time.

crack party?

Hey remember that shoooooout goal Zubov had against the Ducks awhile back...where he went backhand and roofed it from like a centimeter away. If I could do that I would sooooooo play hockey...like it wouldn't even be a question man

Portland defeated Binghamtom 5-3 today, Mike Wall was in net and had 16 saves

Clay Wilson had a goal, 2 assists and was a +3
Bjorn Melin scored his 5th goal of the season
Shawn Thornton had a goal and an assist, he was even
Kent Huskins 2 assists and a -1
Zenon Konopka had 2 assists and was a +3
Drew Miller and Ryan Carter each had goals

Stats through 7 games:
Zenon Konopka 1 G 7 A +7
Shawn Thornton 4 G 3 A +2
Drew Miller 2 G 5 A +2
Colby Genoway 1 G 6 A +6
Tim Brent 4 G 2 A +2 +6
Ryan Carter 3 G 3 A +6
Pierre Parenteau 1 G 5 A +6
Bjorn Melin 5 G 0 A +8
Clay Wilson 1 G 4 A +3

Rest of the stats are here http://portlandpirates.com/teamstats/

Interesting note, The Ducks and Pirates both have yet to lose in regulation.

Awesome news that the Pirates are just cruising along. That is 6 wins in a row now for the :arr: .

Good news about Melin in regards to his five goals. Looks like he has adapted. :D

Thornton and Brent have picked up where they left off in Anaheim and Miller is looking good. Pretty much the whole team is. :D

Positive news EVERYWHERE! :yo:

Anyword on the Gillies/Purinton scraps?

BTV

i JUST DON'T understand anything u post either what is your point except to be overly critical of certain posters on this board, besides the ? WAS NOT POSED to u

Yeah, it's a mystery.

BTV

i JUST DON'T understand anything u post either what is your point except to be overly critical of certain posters on this board, besides the ? WAS NOT POSED to u

Who are you talking to?

Yeah, it's a mystery.

Yeah, it's a mystery.

:biglaugh:


Good to see Melin and Brent producing.

Anyword on the Gillies/Purinton scraps?

First fight, Purinton got in a couple of quick punches, but Gillies turned it around and got a clear knockdown victory. Second bout was a quick wrestling match with no winner. Gillies both times motioned for Purinton to remove the helmet and visor, which Purinton never did until after the second fight was over.

Who are you talking to?
If u would know OR LEARN how to read a simple post before you opened your BIG mouth, BTV, u would've known the answer TO THAT

If u would know OR LEARN how to read a simple post before you opened your BIG mouth, BTV, u would've known the answer TO THAT

Um, I didn't ask that question. Not sure why you're directing this comment at me.

First fight, Purinton got in a couple of quick punches, but Gillies turned it around and got a clear knockdown victory. Second bout was a quick wrestling match with no winner. Gillies both times motioned for Purinton to remove the helmet and visor, which Purinton never did until after the second fight was over.
Thanks for the info.

Just adding my 2 cents a little late on the Marsters-Wall-Leighton discussion...

First off Leighton hands down IMO. You can’t over look the importance of a vet goalie with a young team. Portland doesn’t have the firepower it had last season and will need the solid leadership from the nets.

Now I'd take Marsters over Wall. Wall’s save % still hovers about 25 points lower then it should and IMO Wall is good for a bad goal (or two) every night. And for comparison sake Wall's S% is .872 while Leighton is .894 with nearly identical mins.

If the P's want to get anywhere this season they need a vet in nets for the late season push and playoff run. Neither Marsters nor Wall have demonstrated that they have the skill (or confidence) to carry a playoff team. Marsters was solid last season but a 3+ GAA in 06 should demonstrate that he was bolstered by playing behind a very high scoring team. Frankly the P's don't have that luxury this season. If Wall can keep the GAA sub 3 then the pos goes to him. Granted I don’t like his S% but if Portland’s D can keep the rubber off him then I’m ok with the 2.86 GAA for a backup.

Portland lost tonight 7-4, the one positive was Pierre Parenteau who had a hat trick, Brent had 2 assists.

good and bad news from portland

good: Chistov scored a goal and apparently was good all night

bad: they lost and that cheapshot artist Kasparitis may have destroyed Tim Brents knee, per WC on allducks

Brent had an x-ray on his knee, however, he has fluid on knee and extreme swelling.....he's out for a while if not the season.

They hope to do an MRI later this week.

The Pirates will be seeking supplementary action from the AHL.

So Kasparitis isn't good enough to play in the NHL and wreck established players' knees, so he's in the AHL wrecking the knees of other teams' prospects? That's great. Although very possibly a smart war of attrition by the Rangers management.

Poor Brent. I had high hopes for him.

If this injury negatively impacts his career... it means we would have wasted 2 draft picks on him, a 2nd and a 3rd. Combined with the 2nd we lost on Jordan Smith and I'd say we have awfully bad luck with injuries and 2nd round picks. Maybe Burke's on to something...

I hope Kasparaitis sticks around until rematch, I expect Pirates to call up few goons from ECHL and deliver some payback.

Brent had an x-ray on his knee, however, he has fluid on knee and extreme swelling.....he's out for a while if not the season.

They hope to do an MRI later this week.

The Pirates will be seeking supplementary action from the AHL.

Man, Brent can't catch a break. Just when he was catching on, he just has to get injured. :madfire: GL Timmy! YOU CAN DO IT! :yo: :yo:

The Portland Press Herald call it a "serious contusion in his left thigh"
http://sports.mainetoday.com/pirates/stories/061103piratesadv.html

maybe the injury isn't as bad as originally thought...

Cam Neely?? hah, hopefully he makes a full recovery soon.

The Portland Press Herald call it a "serious contusion in his left thigh"
http://sports.mainetoday.com/pirates/stories/061103piratesadv.html

maybe the injury isn't as bad as originally thought...


No,

Dineen still stated it was bad and he was out for a while.

What was interesting how he referred to the left thigh, but yet it was the top of the kneecap about 6 inches up the thigh so I think it is a little of both...He is still going for an MRI and surgery is a possibility.

In the end, it sucks.

Don't think that Tim Brent is going to be down and out. I am sure that Coach Dineen will find a way to keep him involved with the team as he did last season. Tim is a great motivator in the locker room and a big favorite with the fans. Hartford must be feeling pretty proud right now.They had their goon hurt Tim for the second season in a row. I can't wait tell the Pack come to Portland. GO PIRATES!!!!!!

Shootout win for the P's tonight.

Great team effort tonight too. Everyone seemed to contribute!

http://stats.theahl.com/stats/game-summary.php?game_id=1002352

Bruno St. Jacques injured tonight in the first period....looks to be a severe left knee injury, they don't know the extent until the swelling goes down but Dineen was more subdued then he was about Brent's injury


Oh BTW, Pirates lost 2-0

Injury update from Wildcat's column on Skate the Plank:
Tim Brent injury is less severe than first thought, he suffered a low thigh contusion and is currently listed day-to-day. He could begin skating next week and be back in a week-to-ten days.
http://portlandpirates.mostvaluablenetwork.com/game-recaps/228/#more-228

Leighton is 9 for 9 in shootout shots (2-0 record). Bring him up to be our shootout goalie! :sarcasm:

Injury update from Wildcat's column on Skate the Plank:

http://portlandpirates.mostvaluablenetwork.com/game-recaps/228/#more-228

Also to add to because the story is a few days old. Brent has what was called a severe "charlie horse"....He hasn't begun to skate yet, but is doing some off-ice stuff.

St. Jacques injury is still a mystery. We know it is his left knee, but to what the extent of the injury is - is still unknown. I was told he dodged a bullet so that has to mean something good.

Also to add to because the story is a few days old. Brent has what was called a severe "charlie horse"....He hasn't begun to skate yet, but is doing some off-ice stuff.

St. Jacques injury is still a mystery. We know it is his left knee, but to what the extent of the injury is - is still unknown. I was told he dodged a bullet so that has to mean something good.

Didn't Bill Guerin have to have surgery on one of those?

Garrett Bembridge and Nathan Saunders have been recalled from the Augusta Lynx by the Portland Pirates.

Both will be here in time for Friday's game.

Tim Brent has begun skating and it looks like he might be back in about two weeks or hopefully sooner. He was only on the ice for ten minutes, because Coach Dineen doesn't want to rush up back. I can't wait to have Tim back in the line up!!!:D

Tonight was a really good effort by the Pirates. This reminded me a lot of Friday night in Providence - a real nail biter.

Bemmer's goal was sick...if anybody saw Doug Gilmour's goal in the 1993 Western Conference Finals against the Los Angeles Kings...It was almost identical.

It was funny...I asked him about that after the game and he said, "It wasn't because of talent, but because I fell." :D A real klutz!! :lol:

Gillies really had his lunch handed to him. He was still looking for his dentures after the game. I've never seen him get that beat in the AHL.

Rome really turned a corner with a point on the last five goals (1G, 4A).

Pirates Stone - “Wall” Monarchs

Portland, ME - The Portland Pirates stopped the top power play squad in the AHL by using a stingy defense as they held on for a 2-1 victory over the Manchester Monarchs in front of 5,061 at the Cumberland County Civic Center on Sunday afternoon.

Read More @ STP (http://portlandpirates.mostvaluablenetwork.com/general/pirates-stone-wall-monarchs/#more-242)

Thanks for the update WC! :)

So, what do you think of Wall after this game... ;) :D

A few tempers flared tonight at the Providence/Portland game....

273 penalty minutes
13 fights (I think I counted right)
10 players tossed
PRO coach tossed
PRO left with a completely empty bench for the last few seconds of the game (asst. coach and trainer were the only ones left)

EDIT:
Pirates won 4-1

POR 11:10 P. Parenteau (8) C. Glencross, I. Moran
POR 12:39 P. Wirtanen (3) B. St. Jacques
PRO 13:43 P. Pelletier (7) K. Versteeg, M. Lashoff PP
POR 14:47 B. Salcido (3) C. Genoway, Z. Konopka
POR 3:41 T. Brent (6) A. Rome, I. Moran PP

You didn't say who won.

Portland won, 4-1.

1 - PRO Glenn, 4:46 - Interference , 2 min (PP)
1 - POR Carter, 8:31 - Hooking , 2 min (PP)
1 - POR Rome, 12:56 - Charging , 2 min (PP)
1 - PRO Pelletier, 17:46 - Holding , 2 min (PP)
2 - PRO Krejci, 2:10 - Hooking , 2 min (PP)
2 - PRO Lashoff, 6:51 - Cross-checking , 2 min (PP)
2 - PRO Reich, 10:38 - Fighting , 5 min
2 - POR Rome, 10:38 - Fighting , 5 min
2 - PRO Curry, 18:53 - Holding , 2 min (PP)
3 - PRO Reich, 0:05 - Fighting , 5 min
3 - POR Konopka, 0:05 - Fighting , 5 min
3 - PRO Thompson, 2:52 - Fighting , 5 min
3 - POR Glencross, 2:52 - Fighting , 5 min
3 - POR Moran, 8:08 - Hooking , 2 min (PP)
3 - PRO Reich, 10:38 - Fighting , 5 min
3 - PRO Reich, 10:38 - Game misconduct - Third major (20.4), 10 min
3 - POR Thornton, 10:38 - Fighting , 5 min
3 - PRO Brookbank, 10:52 - Fighting , 5 min
3 - PRO Brookbank, 10:52 - Game misconduct - Secondary altercation (47.6), 10 min
3 - PRO Curry, 10:52 - Fighting , 5 min
3 - PRO Curry, 10:52 - Game misconduct - Secondary altercation (47.6), 10 min
3 - PRO Glenn, 10:52 - Fighting , 5 min
3 - PRO Glenn, 10:52 - Game misconduct - Secondary altercation (47.6), 10 min
3 - PRO Packard, 10:52 - Instigating , 2 min
3 - PRO Packard, 10:52 - Fighting , 5 min (PP)
3 - PRO Packard, 10:52 - Misconduct - Instigating (47.10), 10 min
3 - PRO Rabbit, 10:52 - Fighting , 5 min
3 - PRO Rabbit, 10:52 - Game misconduct - Secondary altercation (47.6), 10 min
3 - POR Glencross, 10:52 - Fighting , 5 min
3 - POR Glencross, 10:52 - Game misconduct - Secondary altercation (47.6), 10 min
3 - POR Konopka, 10:52 - Fighting , 5 min
3 - POR Konopka, 10:52 - Game misconduct - Secondary altercation (47.6), 10 min
3 - POR Leighton, 10:52 - Leaving the crease , 2 min
3 - POR Parenteau, 10:52 - Fighting , 5 min
3 - POR Parenteau, 10:52 - Game misconduct - Secondary altercation (47.6), 10 min
3 - POR Salcido, 10:52 - Fighting , 5 min
3 - POR Salcido, 10:52 - Game misconduct - Secondary altercation (47.6), 10 min
3 - PRO Pelletier, 14:53 - Fighting , 5 min
3 - POR Brent, 14:53 - Fighting , 5 min
3 - POR St. Jacques, 15:50 - Slashing , 2 min (PP)
3 - POR Rome, 16:27 - Roughing , 2 min (PP)
3 - PRO Kalus, 19:06 - Instigating , 2 min
3 - PRO Kalus, 19:06 - Fighting , 5 min
3 - PRO Kalus, 19:06 - Game misconduct - Instigator (last 5 min.) (47.11), 10 min
3 - POR Miller, 19:06 - Fighting , 5 min
3 - PRO Leach, 19:14 - Fighting , 5 min
3 - PRO Zinger, 19:14 - Fighting , 5 min
3 - POR Ferguson, 19:14 - Fighting , 5 min
3 - POR Thornton, 19:14 - Fighting , 5 min
3 - PRO Served By Thompson, 19:49 - Bench minor - Unsportsmanlike conduct , 2 min (PP)
3 - PRO Served By Thompson, 19:49 - Game misconduct - Obscenity (40.5 (ii)), 10 min

Konopka, Parenteau, Salcido, and Glenncross accounted for 70 of the Pirates' PIMs.

You didn't say who won.
Oops! Sorry 'bout that!

Fixed it. ;)

PRO and POR...at least its easy to read.

Yep, gotta love the "dsylexia games" :rolleyes:

Wow, look like some fun stuff in that game. There's enough extracurriculars that if the game were a student, it'd get accepted at Harvard. Tim Brent and PA Parenteau fighting? They're like skinny guys and they fought?

Looks like a nice all-skater brawl at 10:52.

Someone got kicked out for the third fighting major? How often do you see that? I can only recall ever seeing that once.

And the best part is the last penalty... obscenity. Man the Bruins coach must have been ticked off.

Wow, look like some fun stuff in that game. There's enough extracurriculars that if the game were a student, it'd get accepted at Harvard. Tim Brent and PA Parenteau fighting? They're like skinny guys and they fought?

Looks like a nice all-skater brawl at 10:52.

Someone got kicked out for the third fighting major? How often do you see that? I can only recall ever seeing that once.

And the best part is the last penalty... obscenity. Man the Bruins coach must have been ticked off.
:biglaugh:

Miller and Salsa, too....I'm guessing those kids didn't have a lot of fighting in college. ;)

I think Reich had just given up and figured it was better to go out fighting - literally.

The all out brawl was REALLY hard to follow on the radio! They started like dominoes and I only caught a couple of the matchups. Leighton even came out and tried to break up some guys (or some the radio announcer said, I think Leighton's got 2 fights in his resume).

The Bruins coach was SCREAMING at the ref, and since there was an empty bench in front of him he could get a lot closer.

Aeryn, was the game televised? I'd love to see a clip.

Thank god we have coaches like Carlyle and Dineen.

Only on B2 that I know of (and I have a moral objection to B2 so I was listening to the Providence radio feed).

Sometimes a clip makes "Coach's Corner" with Dino the following week. If I see something, I'll let you know.

Wow, look like some fun stuff in that game. There's enough extracurriculars that if the game were a student, it'd get accepted at Harvard. Tim Brent and PA Parenteau fighting? They're like skinny guys and they fought?

Looks like a nice all-skater brawl at 10:52.



Actually Brent isn't new to fighting. He is the type to fight 4 or 5 times a season.

Parenteau is a non-fighter though.

Actually Brent isn't new to fighting. He is the type to fight 4 or 5 times a season.

Parenteau is a non-fighter though.

Parenteau and Salcido got their majors and misconducts for receiving and being on the ice when the meelee started. Parenteau and Wacey Rabbit danced for two or three spins, no blows. Salcido had Curry (4-5 inches taller and out weighs him by 50lbs) pull his shirt over his head and use him like a cat toy. Leighton got his 2 min for leaving the crease by standing beside Salcido making sure that Curry didn't really numb him while the refs were busy with Konopka-Brookbank and Glencross-Glenn was going on. Curry didn't abuse Salcido too badly and really didn't seem real interested in fighting anyone, but had to because everyone else was paired up. IT was pretty funny that neither of the alleged tough guys for the pb's wanted anything to do with Glencross.

Brent's fight was a non-event flurry with Pelltier that lasted about ten seconds.

Parenteau and Salcido got their majors and misconducts for receiving and being on the ice when the meelee started. Parenteau and Wacey Rabbit danced for two or three spins, no blows. Salcido had Curry (4-5 inches taller and out weighs him by 50lbs) pull his shirt over his head and use him like a cat toy. Leighton got his 2 min for leaving the crease by standing beside Salcido making sure that Curry didn't really numb him while the refs were busy with Konopka-Brookbank and Glencross-Glenn was going on. Curry didn't abuse Salcido too badly and really didn't seem real interested in fighting anyone, but had to because everyone else was paired up. IT was pretty funny that neither of the alleged tough guys for the pb's wanted anything to do with Glencross.

Brent's fight was a non-event flurry with Pelltier that lasted about ten seconds.
probably because I don't remember anyone that hits as hard as Curtis does.

I'd be sending some reports to Chiarelli in BOSTON about Providence's alleged incidents on Saturday----I don't think Boston brass would be very pleased to hear about how their affiliate conducts business----161 PIM----no wonder Portland had no life on Sunday in Manchester.

Salcido had Curry (4-5 inches taller and out weighs him by 50lbs) pull his shirt over his head and use him like a cat toy.



:biglaugh: So true...

OCR reporting Leighton is recalled and has to clear waivers... :help:

OCR reporting Leighton is recalled and has to clear waivers... :help:

Not sure where else to put it, but to temper that:
TSN/LA Times reports that Giguere is 99% sure he'll play on Tuesday and Bryzgalov could be back by the weekend.
You have to assume, you'll soon see a few of these guys heading back east.
The Pirates don't play again until Saturday.

What was the point of calling up Wall and McKee if we were just going to expose Leighton to waivers regardless?

Did the Pirates being idle mean that much to them?

Not sure where else to put it, but to temper that:
TSN/LA Times reports that Giguere is 99% sure he'll play on Tuesday and Bryzgalov could be back by the weekend.
You have to assume, you'll soon see a few of these guys heading back east.
The Pirates don't play again until Saturday.

I had actually posted elsewhere over the weekend that I hope Burke doesn't push the panick button and call up Leighton.

I know I posted it in the other thread but here is the link and the comment:

http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/sports/pros/ducks/abox/article_1366598.php

The Ducks had wanted to recall 42-game NHL veteran Michael Leighton from Portland, but first had to subject him to waivers. Leighton is due to clear waivers at 9 a.m. today, but will be lost if another NHL team claims him. The Phoenix Coyotes, who rank last in the league with a 3.81 team goals-against average, appear most likely to do so.

And there goes Leighton, to the Preds...

Apparently on re-entry waivers, so the Ducks are on the hook for half the salary.

http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=186163&hubname=

EDIT: This might be early speculation, but Nathan Marsters might want to start looking for an apartment in the Portland area.

OCR reporting Leighton is recalled and has to clear waivers... :help:

Claimed by Nashville. Thanks for helping us in our time of need. He will be returned as soon as Vokoun is back healthy and ready to go.

http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=186163&hubname=nhl

P.S. As a former AHL fan myself (Hartford), I know how difficult it is to lose someone as vital as a goalie on NHL waivers. I really hope that you guys are not too adversely affected by this and that not only does it present an opportunity for Leighton, but also for any of the goalies that will take his place in Portland.

And there goes Leighton, to the Preds...

Apparently on re-entry waivers, so the Ducks are on the hook for half the salary.
Doh! Forgot about that....he's making minimum, right?

Claimed by Nashville. Thanks for helping us in our time of need. He will be returned as soon as Vokoun is back healthy and ready to go.

http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=186163&hubname=nhl

P.S. As a former AHL fan myself (Hartford), I know how difficult it is to lose someone as vital as a goalie on NHL waivers. I really hope that you guys are not too adversely affected by this and that not only does it present an opportunity for Leighton, but also for any of the goalies that will take his place in Portland.
Promise? ;)

Does SLake's magnanimous attitude frighten anyone else? :sarcasm:

Just kidding, best of luck to Leighton (just not against us).

Ok, so where is Hurme and is he happy there?

Ok, so where is Hurme and is he happy there?

He's in Finland playing for a team in huge financial trouble, he and Aki Berg are the most expensive guys in the team (both making ~200K€)

Claimed by Nashville. Thanks for helping us in our time of need. He will be returned as soon as Vokoun is back healthy and ready to go.

http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=186163&hubname=nhl

P.S. As a former AHL fan myself (Hartford), I know how difficult it is to lose someone as vital as a goalie on NHL waivers. I really hope that you guys are not too adversely affected by this and that not only does it present an opportunity for Leighton, but also for any of the goalies that will take his place in Portland.
why don't u try to convince Nashville to send someone here considering all the issues now-- first,Rinne now Vokoun

w/ Time Warner New England to extend 6 Saturday Hockey Night in Portland games to TV W/ Greg Glynn & Mark Kumpel. ON Time Warner's regional channels 22/9

Games will be against: Albany, Bridgeport, Hershey, Lowell, Providence & Worcester.

Tonight's Pirates Game vs. Albany is being shown on Time Warner New England w/ Greg Glynn & Mark Kumpel

so with Leighton picked up by Nashville, it seems that Mike Wall is now the first string goalie for Portland at 21 years of age; seems pretty young.....How do Portland fans think he will perform?
This could be a great opportunity for him to get lots of work and develop into an NHL goalie sooner.....I doubt that both Giguere and Bryzgalov will be Ducks next season.
Comments?

That or Burke acquires another veteren goalie for the Pirates like he did last season. Wall did start last year as Portland's starter so I don't think the coaching staff is terribly worried. I'd like having him and McKee splitting duties down there so they can both improve this year.

I am not thrilled with it at all.

I think having that veteran goaltender really help Wall when he was feeling pressured...now he is the goto guy and that may not be a good thing.

I really hope Burke either is able to land Leighton back or gets another goalie such as Steve Shields.

Right now in Portland is Wall and Marsters and McKee is in Augusta.

That or Burke acquires another veteren goalie for the Pirates like he did last season. Wall did start last year as Portland's starter so I don't think the coaching staff is terribly worried. I'd like having him and McKee splitting duties down there so they can both improve this year.
McKee was @ Cornell the last 4 years.

McKee was @ Cornell the last 4 years.

I'm well aware. In fact more aware, he was there for three years.

I'm well aware. In fact more aware, he was there for three years.
then why mention McKee to be in Portland then???????

then why mention McKee to be in Portland then???????

He said:

"I'd like McKee and Wall splitting duties in Portland so they can both improve"

I'm paraphrasing but you're missing the whole intent of his statement. He's saying he'd rather have McKee in Portland than Marsters because McKee is the better prospect.

He said:

"I'd like McKee and Wall splitting duties in Portland so they can both improve"

I'm paraphrasing but you're missing the whole intent of his statement. He's saying he'd rather have McKee in Portland than Marsters because McKee is the better prospect.
Marsters has more experience and do we really want a Goaltender like McKee TO NOT PERFORM to his expectations---see why Mike Wall was summarily sent to Augusta a year ago---and Anaheim summarily added first Kochan, then Hurme

Marsters has more experience and do we really want a Goaltender like McKee TO NOT PERFORM to his expectations---see why Mike Wall was summarily sent to Augusta a year ago---and Anaheim summarily added first Kochan, then Hurme


Kochan and Hurme wasn't added because Wall was sent to Augusta. They were signed because the Ducks didn't have faith in Marsters.

Anyway, McKee is a Ducks prospect and Marsters isn't. If the Ducks don't sign another goaltender then I think McKee will be in Portland by the new year.

Kochan and Hurme wasn't added because Wall was sent to Augusta. They were signed because the Ducks didn't have faith in Marsters.

Anyway, McKee is a Ducks prospect and Marsters isn't. If the Ducks don't sign another goaltender then I think McKee will be in Portland by the new year.

Nathan Marsters is under contract however, why first reassign him to the CHL, without any opportunity to remain in Portland based on last year then have him be the only Goalie when Anaheim essentially loses Leighton due to the new CBA rules as David McNab explained to Time Warner fans last night who saw the Albany game.

Mike Wall didn't exactly do much last year to earn his chance in Portland when given the opportunity----Anaheim then felt it was in the best interest to get a veteran goaltender to mentor the organization. Explain why Marsters wasn't reassigned last year but led the team in wins and is not a prospect.

So.....

So.....
why is Marsters here in Portland if he's not going to be in Anaheim's future---Why should Pirates fans be made to suffer if McKee is recalled but doesn't adjust to the AHL similar to Wall's season last year? There is not likely going to be a veteran Goaltender available like Kochan to be signed to bridge the organization gap until either McKee or Levasseur are ready.

It is also likely that Portland fans have seen the last of Leighton regardless of what Nashville decides because Leighton would be in Anaheim rather than Portland should Leighton be placed back on waivers see Karl Stewart as an example but no one knew that that recall waiver rule would've been exercised so Nashville ends up claiming Leighton without anyone realizing the full extent of the new CBA.

why is Marsters here in Portland if he's not going to be in Anaheim's future---Why should Pirates fans be made to suffer if McKee is recalled but doesn't adjust to the AHL similar to Wall's season last year? There is not likely going to be a veteran Goaltender available like Kochan to be signed to bridge the organization gap until either McKee or Levasseur are ready.

It is also likely that Portland fans have seen the last of Leighton regardless of what Nashville decides because Leighton would be in Anaheim rather than Portland should Leighton be placed back on waivers see Karl Stewart as an example but no one knew that that recall waiver rule would've been exercised so Nashville ends up claiming Leighton without anyone realizing the full extent of the new CBA.

Both Anaheim goalies are healthy now, if Leighton gets put back on waivers and no other team puts a claim in, he'll be back in Portland no doubt.

As for the whole McKee vs. Marsters thing. McKee is in the Ducks plans, Marsters isn't. Marsters is a place holder for lack of a better term. McKee is three years younger and more talented. I think it's more benefitial to the Ducks by having McKee in Portland assuming no veteren goalie is picked up prior to that. But I imagine Al Murray is going to do what's best for the Pirates to be successful but I can tell you it doesn't involve Nathan Marsters.

Both Anaheim goalies are healthy now, if Leighton gets put back on waivers and no other team puts a claim in, he'll be back in Portland no doubt.

As for the whole McKee vs. Marsters thing. McKee is in the Ducks plans, Marsters isn't. Marsters is a place holder for lack of a better term. McKee is three years younger and more talented. I think it's more benefitial to the Ducks by having McKee in Portland assuming no veteren goalie is picked up prior to that. But I imagine Al Murray is going to do what's best for the Pirates to be successful but I can tell you it doesn't involve Nathan Marsters.
ya, but Leighton most likely won't be reclaimed if Anaheim management knows now that re-entry recall waiver rule which cost the Pirates Leighton in the first place, why would u put Leighton back in Portland and have the same situation that happened last week happen again, say if that scenario happens again later in the season in Anaheim or if Giguere, Bryz, and Wall are hurt as an example, then what if no veteran goalie is found; wouldn't Leighton have to go back through waivers and have it happen a second time why would they assign him to Portland knowing what they know now w/ recall entry waivers knowing Leighton having to clear both ways in effect, they wouldn't take the risk.

I don't honestly think Anaheim knew that this clause would end up costing them Leighton.

ya, but Leighton most likely won't be reclaimed if Anaheim management knows now that re-entry recall waiver rule which cost the Pirates Leighton in the first place, why would u put Leighton back in Portland and have the same situation that happened last week happen again, say if that scenario happens again later in the season in Anaheim or if Giguere, Bryz, and Wall are hurt as an example, then what if no veteran goalie is found; wouldn't Leighton have to go back through waivers and have it happen a second time why would they assign him to Portland knowing what they know now w/ recall entry waivers knowing Leighton having to clear both ways in effect, they wouldn't take the risk.

I don't honestly think Anaheim knew that this clause would end up costing them Leighton.

OMG!!!

Everytime I read your post...I feel like I lose a few IQ points.

When Nashville is healthy in goal, they will put Leighton on waivers to send him to Milwaukee. When they do that Anaheim can pick him back up and because he was Anaheim's original property, he will be deemed to have cleared waivers and can sent to Portland.

Bob Murray, Al Coates, Dave McNab and Brian Burke all knew this was a risk. Did they screw up? I think so because of the timing in which they put him on waivers.

As for other veteran goalie? There are plenty available....Steve Shields just to name one who is available. Also you have other teams with excess goalies. Boston will be one when Brian Finley is healthy.

Next point, Marsters was no more than a warm body in Portland for the week. You saw that fact last night. Marsters was here all week but yet it was Wall that got the start.

During training camp, Marsters was sent to Augusta first and then to Laredo of the CHL when McKee was sent to Augusta. If Anaheim doesn't have a veteran goalie here by Christmas look for Marster to end up elsewhere.

OMG!!!

Everytime I read your post...I feel like I lose a few IQ points.

When Nashville is healthy in goal, they will put Leighton on waivers to send him to Milwaukee. When they do that Anaheim can pick him back up and because he was Anaheim's original property, he will be deemed to have cleared waivers and can sent to Portland.

Bob Murray, Al Coates, Dave McNab and Brian Burke all knew this was a risk. Did they screw up? I think so because of the timing in which they put him on waivers.

As for other veteran goalie? There are plenty available....Steve Shields just to name one who is available. Also you have other teams with excess goalies. Boston will be one when Brian Finley is healthy.

Next point, Marsters was no more than a warm body in Portland for the week. You saw that fact last night. Marsters was here all week but yet it was Wall that got the start.

During training camp, Marsters was sent to Augusta first and then to Laredo of the CHL when McKee was sent to Augusta. If Anaheim doesn't have a veteran goalie here by Christmas look for Marster to end up elsewhere.
then why keep shuttling Marsters if they have no intention of playing him?????????

then why keep shuttling Marsters if they have no intention of playing him?????????


They have been shuttling Marsters.

Portland>Augusta>Laredo>Augusta>Portland>>>>>


I would say he built up some frequent flyer miles...:shakehead

OMG!!!

Everytime I read your post...I feel like I lose a few IQ points.

Lets be informative without being derogatory.

Give me a break!!

Are you tell me what I said was so bad....A have you been in search of this board for other comments about Hutch.

For you to point at what I said is just plain silly.

Give me a break!!

Are you tell me what I said was so bad....A have you been in search of this board for other comments about Hutch.

For you to point at what I said is just plain silly.

Being condescending violates the code of conduct. If you have an argument, talk about the issue, not each other. You don't need to flame someone else to get your point across. As for other posters conduct, that is an issue that will be addressed with them. You only need to take care of yourself, no one else.

Hope Burke gets Jani Hurme back somehow, hes having pretty good season in Finland.

http://www.sm-liiga.fi/tilasto.asp?otsake1=Kausi+2006%2D2007+runkosarja&sarja=1483&maingroup=1&group=16&parm=2

1. Ahonen Ari, Jokerit 8 493.17 16 256 1 3 3 2 2 94,12
2. Tarkki Tuomas, Kärpät 23 1351.27 43 629 3 16 3 3 1,91 93,6
3. Hurme Jani, TPS 21 1275.56 42 582 2 11 4 6 1,98 93,27

That ranking is a bit decaying because TPS was lousy team before hurme joined and now they're actually winning games :) - Kärpät have been dominating SM-league and Jokerit has a string of good games from since they acquired Ahonen from Blues.

Hurme was also chosen as a Player of the Month in SM-Liiga for november and Hurme was also only TPS player that was selected to upcomming International teams European Tournament in Moscova.

Being condescending violates the code of conduct. If you have an argument, talk about the issue, not each other. You don't need to flame someone else to get your point across. As for other posters conduct, that is an issue that will be addressed with them. You only need to take care of yourself, no one else.
He's right though. I'm reasonably intelligent and I have a tought time figuring out what that guy is saying.

Hope Burke gets Jani Hurme back somehow, hes having pretty good season in Finland.

http://www.sm-liiga.fi/tilasto.asp?otsake1=Kausi+2006%2D2007+runkosarja&sarja=1483&maingroup=1&group=16&parm=2

1. Ahonen Ari, Jokerit 8 493.17 16 256 1 3 3 2 2 94,12
2. Tarkki Tuomas, Kärpät 23 1351.27 43 629 3 16 3 3 1,91 93,6
3. Hurme Jani, TPS 21 1275.56 42 582 2 11 4 6 1,98 93,27

That ranking is a bit decaying because TPS was lousy team before hurme joined and now they're actually winning games :) - Kärpät have been dominating SM-league and Jokerit has a string of good games from since they acquired Ahonen from Blues.

Hurme was also chosen as a Player of the Month in SM-Liiga for november and Hurme was also only TPS player that was selected to upcomming International teams European Tournament in Moscova.
Jani Hurme hasn't stated any intention of returning to North America, because of past issues not w/ Anaheim but w/ Atlanta and imho, w/ Anaheim now having LeVasseur and McKee in the organization, there isn't anywhere to place Hurme here because Anaheim, perhaps why he left for Finland and Portland fans knew that Hurme filled the role that he was given upon acquisition had been completed otherwise Jani wouldn't hence why Leighton was acquired from Florida.

Also, why would Anaheim choose to put in a waiver claim on Leighton now they know the full extent of recall waivers---from what I understood from David McNab, Anaheim management other than Brian Burke were caught off guard by this rule and by extension that's why Pirates fans are irritated as to why Nashville claimed Leighton---that's why Pirates fans flooded the e-mail box on STP, the rule or clause discussing recall waivers was not in the previous CBA, but wasn't inserted until a few weeks ago into the CBA, how can we blame Anaheim management and who actually sees a copy of every little clause and can reference or memorize the CBA while trying to watch their teams play.

Why would Mc Nab come to Portland on Saturday to tell the Pirates fans who were not in the building but did watch the Pirates via Time Warner Cable but why would Anaheim be placed in a situation which would have cost them a player.

What if the decision is made that Leighton goes back on waivers and Anaheim elects to pass, LIKE Karl Stewart being claimed by Pittsburgh, then Chicago, the Ducks elected then to pass on Stewart.

I didn't hear anything that suggested that Anaheim will reclaim Leighton.

I'm not sure if Anaheim passed on Stewart when Chicago claimed him. I don't think we'd ever know because Chicago is below us in the standings so their claim goes first. There's nothing suggesting Anaheim would claim Leighton if he was waived again but a) there's no reason why they wouldn't since they probably want a veteran in Portland and b) Nashville is near the top of the standings, it's possible he might fall to us to reclaim.

Also, why would Anaheim choose to put in a waiver claim on Leighton now they know the full extent of recall waivers---from what I understood from David McNab, Anaheim management other than Brian Burke were caught off guard by this rule and by extension that's why Pirates fans are irritated as to why Nashville claimed Leighton---that's why Pirates fans flooded the e-mail box on STP, the rule or clause discussing recall waivers was not in the previous CBA, but wasn't inserted until a few weeks ago into the CBA, how can we blame Anaheim management and who actually sees a copy of every little clause and can reference or memorize the CBA while trying to watch their teams play.

If McNabb told you that, he lied to you IMO. I have a PDF of the CBA from back in June that clearly talks about re-entry waivers. Very simply, if the player had to clear regular waivers to go down (Leighton did) then he's got to clear re-entry waivers to come back up. Section 13.4 and a little more in 50.9.g.ii.

And you can't just CHANGE the CBA.

What if the decision is made that Leighton goes back on waivers and Anaheim elects to pass, LIKE Karl Stewart being claimed by Pittsburgh, then Chicago, the Ducks elected then to pass on Stewart.

The Stewart situation is different. Between him getting claimed from us and waived by Pittsburg they re-signed Konopka. Assuming how they will react to the current goalie situation based how they handled another is impossible.

I'm not sure if Anaheim passed on Stewart when Chicago claimed him. I don't think we'd ever know because Chicago is below us in the standings so their claim goes first. There's nothing suggesting Anaheim would claim Leighton if he was waived again but a) there's no reason why they wouldn't since they probably want a veteran in Portland and b) Nashville is near the top of the standings, it's possible he might fall to us to reclaim.


I believed Anaheim did pass on Stewart cause Anaheim never put a claim in so they let Stewart go to Chicago

As for Leighton, why would the Ducks let him be claimed because ANA Mngmt was not aware of the rule or clause which allowed that claim to proceed, my point is now that Anaheim is aware of the recall waiver procedure rule---why even attempt to assign a player knowing that he could be claimed a second time under the clause that lost the Pirates said player in the first place why place Leighton back in the position to having him clear waivers twice to play in Portland in this case ???????

I'm not sure if Anaheim passed on Stewart when Chicago claimed him. I don't think we'd ever know because Chicago is below us in the standings so their claim goes first.

A team always has first dibs to re-claim a player that they lost.

A team always has first dibs to re-claim a player that they lost.
You may be right but I couldn't find anything about that in the CBA. All I see is "In the event that more than one Club makes a claim for such Player, he shall be transferred to the claiming Club having earned the lowest percentage points in the League standing at the time of hte request for Waivers..."

And in the section about a club reclaiming a previously waived players all I see is that "...(if) the original owning Club is the successful and only Club making a Waiver claim, then the original owning Club shall be entitled to Loan such Player to a club in another league within thirty days without further Waivers being asked." I don't see anything about having first dibs, just that they could assign the player to minors because the player has "cleared waivers" because no other team wanted him.

Of course I could be looking in the wrong section altogether.

You may be right but I couldn't find anything about that in the CBA. All I see is "In the event that more than one Club makes a claim for such Player, he shall be transferred to the claiming Club having earned the lowest percentage points in the League standing at the time of hte request for Waivers..."

And in the section about a club reclaiming a previously waived players all I see is that "...(if) the original owning Club is the successful and only Club making a Waiver claim, then the original owning Club shall be entitled to Loan such Player to a club in another league within thirty days without further Waivers being asked." I don't see anything about having first dibs, just that they could assign the player to minors because the player has "cleared waivers" because no other team wanted him.

Of course I could be looking in the wrong section altogether.

and the recall waiver clause from what I understood from Mc Nab, was approved and added to the CBA until the last couple of weeks prior to this claim by Nashville.

And in the section about a club reclaiming a previously waived players all I see is that "...(if) the original owning Club is the successful and only Club making a Waiver claim, then the original owning Club shall be entitled to Loan such Player to a club in another league within thirty days without further Waivers being asked." I don't see anything about having first dibs, just that they could assign the player to minors because the player has "cleared waivers" because no other team wanted him.

Yeah that section just says after a successful re-claim the team can demote the player without putting him through another round of waivers.

Of course I could be looking in the wrong section altogether.

I couldn't find it either, so maybe I'm just confusing myself with an old clause from the previous CBA.

It is very confusing, but speaking with McNab when the Stewart situation happened. He said if a player is claimed on waivers and then tried to be sent down, the original team has the right to take that player back forever......He also said that if the original team and another team put in a claim then the original team would have to keep him on the NHL roster or let him go to the other club.

I have never seen this in the CBA but I have seen it happen even with as recently as the Ducks last year with Chris Kunitz.

As for Karl Stewart, the Ducks never did put in a claim because they knew Chicago was putting in a claim and the Ducks were already pressed up against the number of players on the roster. They would have had to make a move to create space for Stewart.

It is very confusing, but speaking with McNab when the Stewart situation happened. He said if a player is claimed on waivers and then tried to be sent down, the original team has the right to take that player back forever......He also said that if the original team and another team put in a claim then the original team would have to keep him on the NHL roster or let him go to the other club.

I have never seen this in the CBA but I have seen it happen even with as recently as the Ducks last year with Chris Kunitz.

As for Karl Stewart, the Ducks never did put in a claim because they knew Chicago was putting in a claim and the Ducks were already pressed up against the number of players on the roster. They would have had to make a move to create space for Stewart.
"We reclaimed you so we get to keep you FOREVER. MWAHAHAHA"

I guess it's true that if the Ducks reclaimed Stewart they would have had to have put him on the NHL roster. Yeah basically either there's a whole section of the CBA I'm missing or the real CBA isn't what's on the NHLPA site. Neither of which would surprise me. I'd hate to be a real GM because you'd probably have to know that huge thing inside and out.

Let's just say it's a general understanding among NHL teams....I have never seen it in the CBA, but I also know that they have a guide in the CBA showing how a player is exempt or non-exempt from waivers and I could never make sense out of it. Again, after speaking with McNab, he basically told me any player in the fourth year of pro after signing an NHL entry-level deal has to clear waivers. There are exceptions such as Bjorn Melin, but a player like Konopka who didn't sign his NHL deal with Anaheim until 3 years ago still doesn't have to clear waivers, but will next year.

With Mike Wall getting recalled.

The Pirates/Ducks have signed Dov Grumet-Morris to a PTO.

Grumet-Morris, 24, has appeared in nine games for the Cyclones this season, posting a 4-4-1 record with a 2.32 goals against average and a .925 save percentage. His 2.32 goals against average is fourth best in the ECHL and the .925 save percentage is fourth-best also.

Read More>>> (http://www.cycloneshockey.com/news_data.php?article=00092)

With Mike Wall getting recalled.

The Pirates/Ducks have signed Dov Grumet-Morris to a PTO.



Read More>>> (http://www.cycloneshockey.com/news_data.php?article=00092)

So who starts Friday??????

Marsters or Grumet-Morris?

also, does this signing affect the 50 player limit that Anaheim has under contract??

Pirates Alumni note for ya:

Do you remember Ryan Van Buskirk in Portland----he's back in the ECHL W/ Florida Everblades.

So who starts Friday??????

Marsters or Grumet-Morris?

also, does this signing affect the 50 player limit that Anaheim has under contract??

No because he's not under contract with the Ducks. He signed a PTO with the Pirates.

Thornton and the Pirates get a little play on NHL.com:

http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=284690

Maybe some Portland fan could give us a review of the Pirates' season so far and how the players are doing?

Maybe some Portland fan could give us a review of the Pirates' season so far and how the players are doing?

Funny that you should mention it, but December is the month for HF's AHL/ECHL review. I'm in the process of collecting information now and the article should go up later this month.

featuring:

Hulst, Poapst, & Kaminski from the past organization (Wsh);

Z, Brent, Shannon, & Penner from ANA;

1st 5000 fans to receive Poster as part of the 30th anniversary of the AHL in Portland.

I suspect no historical photos from the late 70s to 1992 is due to the fact that those are well known players that maybe no longer playing.

Also, it's Coats for Kids night in Portland.

IT'S TIME TO HAVE NEWS FROM PORTLAND I THINK, HONESTLY THIS THREAD
IS NOT VERY INTERESTING . OLD NEWS , SPEAK FROM THE SAME PLAYERS ALL THE TIME , NEED TO KNOW IF B.B. WILL MOVE SOME YOUNGS KIDS EVENTUALLY BECAUSE NO PLACES IN THE BIG CLUB. :dunno:

IT'S TIME TO HAVE NEWS FROM PORTLAND I THINK, HONESTLY THIS THREAD
IS NOT VERY INTERESTING . OLD NEWS , SPEAK FROM THE SAME PLAYERS ALL THE TIME , NEED TO KNOW IF B.B. WILL MOVE SOME YOUNGS KIDS EVENTUALLY BECAUSE NO PLACES IN THE BIG CLUB. :dunno:

Well...Some of the Pirates with trade value like Tim Brent and Aaron Rome could be included in deadline day trades that bring in veteran depth for the Ducks playoff run.

Similar to Perrault for O'Donnell last season.

Obviously some of the static condition is because the Ducks have been fortunate to avoid injuries. 15 Ducks have appeared in every game for the squad. So there's very little movement between the AHL and the NHL at this stage in the game.
However, like McDonald19 alluded to, now may not be the time to pull a trigger on some deals, as it could burn the team in the end. Portland and Anaheim are both playing extremely well and that will undoubtably help them out if the injury bug hits the Ducks.
Something that has been characteristic of the Ducks call-up during the Burke/Portland era is the use of roles. For example, when Fedoruk was injured, Thornton was picked up. Obviously, by looking at the AHL roster, it's easy to point out who would get the call if a scoring forward went down, who would come up if a two-way player became injured or a checker etc.
The injuries will no doubt come, as they are inevitable as the wear and tear of the league continues. The only hope for both Duck fans and those in Portland is that when they strike, it is to someone who can be covered by the resources within.

As far as updates...there hasn't been much to say. No one on the P's stands out. Konopka's line (Genoway and Parenteau are his wings) are carrying the team and virtually everyone else is along for the ride. The D has been uninspiring and the goaltending is a mess. Dineen does seem to have them playing well as a TEAM but it is a shock that they are still hanging onto first.

Brent, Glencross, Skinner have all under performed. Even if you look at Konopka he's playing well but not quite on par with last season (at least it seems that way). He and Genoway are the only guys with any real chemistry and Parenteau is the direct benefactor this season. Really Parenteau is the only player who is playing above his standard (12 g and 12 a) but I still think he is a coaster and doesn't show up on any given shift.

The rookies are all tall skinny kids who show little to no interest in physical play (Carter does hit on occasion) and make a lot of mistakes. They need time to develop (hopefully out on muscle) but again none standout as sure fire prospects. I think Wilson and Carter as roll players have more of a chance then others to crack the NHL. Melin started strong but has become a nonfactor on offense.

Leighton’s performance is the only reason a number of these guys are “+” on the season. He WAS the key cog in the defense...Rome, St J, Huskins, are all solid...but again hardly impressive on any given night (I'd say that was a good thing but Portland needs points from the blue line). Skinner...not sure what has happened to him he was demoted to the E at one point a few weeks ago. Wilson and Salcido...need size and time.

I just don’t have the good feeling about this team that I had last season. There are no clear standouts. No clear NHL sure bets and really a bunch of players that need some time to develop. As long as Konopka’s line can create offense and the other lines kick in a goal or two the defensive lapses will be livable. Any one of the top three go into a slump (get hurt or called up) I have serious fears of what the P’s record would spiral down out of control. Right now only 5 pts separate 1st from 5th in the P’s Division. 7 pts for 6th. One bad 3 in 3 or 4 in 5 could mean 6th place for Portland rather then 1st.

So far I've enjoyed the teamwork and enjoy watching them win but I'm disappointed with many of the individual efforts. This team just doesn't have the same mix of prospects and vets that last year's team had. Steady but not standouts (see Rome, Huskins, St J). It is fun to watch (most of the time) but not a team to get excited about or look for any real playoff success.

If you want to ask me or any of the other regular Portland folks I’m sure we can update you on individuals too. Although I’m going to probably be harsh in my assessments right now.

Do we need to invite Andrews tonight vs Providence?:sarcasm:

This Pirates fan is, for the most part, happy with this team! My major issue is with the horrible officals we have in the AHL. This totally effects how a grinding team, like the Pirates play. The officiating last night allowed the cheap shot Falcons to slash our goalie and score. The Pirates have deeply effected by the loss of Sean Thorton. He was a great motivating factor and the guys really respected him. As far as those who doubt the team, wait til the end of the season. ;)

Pirates Hall of Famer D Steve Poapst new coach of the USHL Chicago Steel:handclap: :clap: ;)

Tim Brent selected to Canadian Spengler Cup team:handclap:

What was the delay about at the start of that game? It seemed to be about 5 minutes before they actually dropped the puck?

What was the delay about at the start of that game? It seemed to be about 5 minutes before they actually dropped the puck?

Bad ice...

Were they playing in San Jose?

Bad ice...
thx

Were they playing in San Jose?

LOL...

C Chris Ferraro on SA Rampage.

12/29 - Maxime Ouellet signs with the Portland Pirates.

http://stats.theahl.com/hm/transactions.php

Probably signed just to add some goalie depth due to injuries.

12/29 - Maxime Ouellet signs with the Portland Pirates.

http://stats.theahl.com/hm/transactions.php

Probably signed just to add some goalie depth due to injuries.

It's pretty amazing that a guy that was a such a hot prospect just 5 seasons ago wasn't even playing professional hockey until now.

12/29 - Maxime Ouellet signs with the Portland Pirates.

http://stats.theahl.com/hm/transactions.php

Probably signed just to add some goalie depth due to injuries.

Ouellet sent to a team in Switzerland today.

Didn't Portland and Anaheim agree on a 5 year development agreement back in 2005---why are some media reporting that the affiliation is in trouble:confused:

Didn't Portland and Anaheim agree on a 5 year development agreement back in 2005---why are some media reporting that the affiliation is in trouble:confused:
It wasn't a five year deal. It was a two year deal with three one-year mutual options.

They are trying to squash rumours that the team is looking to move. This goes back to about six months ago when Brian Burke was in Oklahoma City touring the Ford Center. The local paper wrote a story saying that the team was looking to move its affiliate. The PPH wrote a story and squashed those rumours for the most part.

One issue is the fact that Burke and Co. didn't get along with Petrovek and Williams.....It has caused a rift....admitted by Burke. Some believe that it has carried over to this season, because the Pirates only deal with day-to-day business operations.

Whether they are able to work them out who knows? The Ducks and Pirates have signed a one year extension and will talk in the summer for an extension for a longer term...most likely to the end of the CCCC lease.

Two small things that haven't been mentioned yet.

Zenon Konopka will be a starter in the AHL All-Star Game for the Canadian side. He's the only Portland player selected: http://theahl.com/news/league/index.html?article_id=7350

Meanwhile Tim Brent has been returned to Portland.
That whole situation seems a bit like when another former St. Mike's captain, Mark Popovic went to the Spengler Cup. He came back to North America and played a single game at the NHL level. Also here's an article from a few days back in the LA Times about Brent and how being drafted twice came to pass:
"It was my first time going through contract negotiations and I had an agent that kind of told me not to take the deal. He was a little confused on the rules. He informed me that I would be a free agent if I went back to junior and that wasn't the case.

"So I found out in August that he was wrong. Obviously I had to let him go and renegotiate another deal."
http://www.latimes.com/sports/hockey/nhl/ducks/la-spw-duckrep6jan06,1,1104109.story?coll=la-headlines-sports-nhl-ducks&ctrack=1&cset=true

Michael Leighton on Waivers:
http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070110/SPORTS02/70110037
Nashville Board thread: http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?p=7621834

It wasn't a five year deal. It was a two year deal with three one-year mutual options.

They are trying to squash rumours that the team is looking to move. This goes back to about six months ago when Brian Burke was in Oklahoma City touring the Ford Center. The local paper wrote a story saying that the team was looking to move its affiliate. The PPH wrote a story and squashed those rumours for the most part.

One issue is the fact that Burke and Co. didn't get along with Petrovek and Williams.....It has caused a rift....admitted by Burke. Some believe that it has carried over to this season, because the Pirates only deal with day-to-day business operations.

Whether they are able to work them out who knows? The Ducks and Pirates have signed a one year extension and will talk in the summer for an extension for a longer term...most likely to the end of the CCCC lease.

Wildcat:

Petrovek said basically this AM in response to the rumor last night, that The Ducks & Pirates essentially rewrote the contract that was agreed upon by Petrovek and Coates on 5/23/05 before Burke was hired by Anaheim.

remember at that point in time---Anaheim hadn't received approval to be owned yet . Anaheim would like to see the arena scenario resolved or an end game plan in place by the end of the season---whether it's a scenario shutting off either Free Street or Spring Street a la what has happened in Boston's Fenway area.

As for the developmental aspect that was originally was quoted that's different from the original contract independent of the Pirates' lease w/ the Civic Center. Instead of the contract being 2 years w/ a 3 1 year extensions mutually agreeable
was modified by Burke to 2 years + 2 year mutual option, so basically doesn't really change the affiliation aspect instead of fighting the Civic Center Board in 2010 while dealing with BB for an extension of the development agreement will be extended past the current lease w/ the building.

If we don't get the lease what good is the development extension.


I agree w/ the assessment about the Oklahoma City rumors which was quickly denied.

Wildcat:


As for the developmental aspect that was originally was quoted that's different from the original contract independent of the Pirates' lease w/ the Civic Center. Instead of the contract being 2 years w/ a 3 1 year extensions mutually agreeable
was modified by Burke to 2 years + 2 year mutual option, so basically doesn't really change the affiliation aspect instead of fighting the Civic Center Board in 2010 while dealing with BB for an extension of the development agreement will be extended past the current lease w/ the building.


One party to a contract cannot unilaterally modify that contract---not even if that party's name is Bryan Burke. Any modification to a contract must be mutally agreed upon by all parties thereto.

One party to a contract cannot unilaterally modify that contract---not even if that party's name is Bryan Burke. Any modification to a contract must be mutally agreed upon by all parties thereto.

How do u change a contract, that u weren't involved with in the 1st place eh, KS

BB wasn't a member of the Ducks then can u think better to explain why Petrovek said to change a 2+3 yr option to a 2+2 ??????

One party to a contract cannot unilaterally modify that contract---not even if that party's name is Bryan Burke. Any modification to a contract must be mutally agreed upon by all parties thereto.

That's right, standard contract law. You can't change an existing agreement without consent from the other side. Works from every where from your contract at work or with your cellphone provider right up to international trade agreements. In this case, Burke coming in after the deal was put into place shouldn't matter. The contract would obviously be between the Anaheim Ducks Hockey Club and the Portland Pirates Hockey Club. It's the same idea with the way that NAFTA was signed by Salinas, Bush Sr. and Mulroney and still is in place despite the fact that none of those three hold office in their respective countries.The only way the deal would be affected by Coates and Burke is if Coates had made an individual service contract for himself with the Pirates, which is ridiculous in this case.

That's right, standard contract law. You can't change an existing agreement without consent from the other side. Works from every where from your contract at work or with your cellphone provider right up to international trade agreements. In this case, Burke coming in after the deal was put into place shouldn't matter. The contract would obviously be between the Anaheim Ducks Hockey Club and the Portland Pirates Hockey Club. It's the same idea with the way that NAFTA was signed by Salinas, Bush Sr. and Mulroney and still is in place despite the fact that none of those three hold office in their respective countries.The only way the deal would be affected by Coates and Burke is if Coates had made an individual service contract for himself with the Pirates, which is ridiculous in this case.

If u liistened to Petrovek though that AM---THE ORIGINAL contrract was essentiallly rewritten so technically it was consent given between both parties

12/29 - Maxime Ouellet signs with the Portland Pirates.

http://stats.theahl.com/hm/transactions.php

Probably signed just to add some goalie depth due to injuries.
LOL thers a blast from the past.

LOL thers a blast from the past.

already left----to a team in Europe----lasted a week.

the long-standing rivalry w/ the Providence Bruins aka the Maine Mariners resumes tomorrow @ 7:05.

The Pirates will hold their annual Motorsports Expo as the Civic Center opens @ 3pm.

Someone will also WALK AWAY W/ A TRIP To Phoenix Int'l Raceway for the Subway Fresh 500.

http://www.portlandpirates.com/newsarticle.asp?Id=1187

Does anyone have any information on Genoway?

Ian Moran has left the organisation of the Ducks and sigend with the Polar Bears Berlin.Here's the link,but it's in German:

http://www.eisbaeren.de/content/13.php?action=detail&n_id=4990

Portland signed assistant coach Eric Weinrich to a PTO.

http://www.portlandpirates.com/newsarticle.asp?Id=1190