(Pre-season) Game 1: Kings @ DUCKS 9/18/06

Yes, we are FINALLY HERE!!! The first game of the season between your ANAHEIM DUCKS and the young and fiesty LA Kings.

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WHOM?: Ducks VS Kings, Roster posted by Aeryn near the bottom of the page (THANKS)!
HOW?: Radio 830 AM
WHEN?: Monday, September 18th, 2006
WHEN AGAIN?: Start Time: 7:05 PT
WHERE?: Honda Center (Arrowhead Pond of Anaheim)
WHY?: Why not? :biglaugh:
WHAT?: Ducks Pre-season Record: 0-0-0-0
WWWWWH?: Duck Trivia Question: Who(m) is the longest tenured Duck player(s) currently still on the team?

This game, along with every single other game, can be heard on 830 AM with respected radio voices Steve Carroll and Brent Severyn returning for another season of fun and excitement. :yo: :yo: Start time is at 7:05 PT. No pre-season games are televized.

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 :) :yo: :yo:

EDIT: Can a mod change the title to "GDT (Pre-season) Game 1: Kings @ DUCKS :-D...9/17/06" Thanks a bunch. :-)

Finally!!!

Go Ducks :yo:

I will be there...Duck fans represent!

Finally, Ducks hockey. I just got my tickets for the November 9th game: Anaheim vs. Vancouver. I will be the only guy at GM place cheering for Anaheim, hopefully I'lll come back alive that day.

Ps. is the answer God?

Ps. is the answer God?

at first i was thinking marshall, but he's gone now.
I think it's selanne.

at first i was thinking marshall, but he's gone now.
I think it's selanne.

Oh yeah. I completely forgot about Selanne, it might be because he left the team for like four years. But yeah, I think you are right.

Well Marshall and Selanne weren't on the team for awhile, and tenure to me means consecutive seasons. So I'd also guess God.

And does 830 broadcast over the internet yet? I rememer searching when they first announced the partnership and it didn't seem to. Am I still going to be Duck-less for another few weeks?

Well Marshall and Selanne weren't on the team for awhile, and tenure to me means consecutive seasons. So I'd also guess God.

And does 830 broadcast over the internet yet? I rememer searching when they first announced the partnership and it didn't seem to. Am I still going to be Duck-less for another few weeks?
check nhl.com's listen live section during the game.

I'll check it, but I don't believe they broadcast preseason games last year.

Monday is the 18th:teach:

God is NOT correct, although you guys are close. :)

Who else is EXCITED? :yo: :yo: :yo: I am so pumped. :)

God is NOT correct, although you guys are close. :)

Who else is EXCITED? :yo: :yo: :yo: I am so pumped. :)

The only other player I can think of is Giguere.

ROSTER
(based on the packed gear at AI today)

#10 - Perry
#15 - Getzlaf
#17 - Penner
#21 - O'Donnell
#23 - Beauchemin
#26 - Pahlsson
#33 - DiPenta
#37 - O'Brien
#39 - Green
#40 - Huskins
#42 - Gillies
#43 - Melin
#44 - R. Niedermayer
#45 - Thornton
#52 - Carter
#54 - Ryan
#55 - Salcido
#74 - Stewart
#1 - Leighton
#30 - Bryzgalov

Aeryn takes no responsibility for errors in reporting...she was precariously leaning over the railing to (literally) read the writing on the wall. ;)

ROSTER
(based on the packed gear at AI today)

#10 - Perry
#15 - Getzlaf
#17 - Penner
#21 - O'Donnell
#23 - Beauchemin
#26 - Pahlsson
#33 - DiPenta
#37 - O'Brien
#39 - Green
#40 - Huskins
#42 - Gillies
#43 - Melin
#44 - R. Niedermayer
#45 - Thornton
#52 - Carter
#54 - Ryan
#55 - Salcido
#74 - Stewart
#1 - Leighton
#30 - Bryzgalov

Aeryn takes no responsibility for errors in reporting...she was precariously leaning over the railing to (literally) read the writing on the wall. ;)

Thanks Aeryn! :) The Ducksforcup thanks you remendously. ;) Pretty young lineup with the exception of OD, Huskins, Green, and R. Nieds.

Just as a side note, according to Mrs. Bevo at ALLDUCKS, Stewart said he was playing tomorrow and "was hoping that Avery would be playing too." I love this guy already. :bow: :bow: :bow:

The only other player I can think of is Giguere.
Giguere or McDonald :dunno:

I believe Andy Mac is the answer to the trivia question.

Thanks Aeryn! :) The Ducksforcup thanks you remendously. ;) Pretty young lineup with the exception of OD, Huskins, Green, and R. Nieds.

Just as a side note, according to Mrs. Bevo at ALLDUCKS, Stewart said he was playing tomorrow and "was hoping that Avery would be playing too." I love this guy already. :bow: :bow: :bow:
I'm calling Stewart "Pit-Bull"....the kid has no fear and doesn't quit. Just add a smidge of self-control and :D

Just as a side note, according to Mrs. Bevo at ALLDUCKS, Stewart said he was playing tomorrow and "was hoping that Avery would be playing too." I love this guy already. :bow: :bow: :bow:

sweet...reminds me of Konopka. He was trash talking Avery in the first preseason game last year. Avery wouldn't drop the gloves with him though.

The only other player I can think of is Giguere.

Giguere or McDonald? :dunno:

I believe Andy Mac is the answer to the trivia question.

ZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :walrus: :walrus: :dooney:

Very good hockeydemon05 and McDonald19!!! :walrus: :walrus: :walrus: Andy was signed as a free agent in April of 2000. :)

Now, the cookie monster will be giving you guys your prizes...

http://www.lilbearshoppe.com/shopping_cart/images/CookieMonster_lg.jpg

http://www.lilbearshoppe.com/shopping_cart/images/CookieMonster_lg.jpg

My son will be ecstatic.

ROSTER
(based on the packed gear at AI today)

#10 - Perry
#15 - Getzlaf
#17 - Penner
#21 - O'Donnell
#23 - Beauchemin
#26 - Pahlsson
#33 - DiPenta
#37 - O'Brien
#39 - Green
#40 - Huskins
#42 - Gillies
#43 - Melin
#44 - R. Niedermayer
#45 - Thornton
#52 - Carter
#54 - Ryan
#55 - Salcido
#74 - Stewart
#1 - Leighton
#30 - Bryzgalov

Aeryn takes no responsibility for errors in reporting...she was precariously leaning over the railing to (literally) read the writing on the wall. ;)

Thanks for the report. With no Selanne and Andymac I hope that we see a Penner-Getzlaf-Perry line as our first line. I'm also bummed that Chistov won't be playing.

What the hell is going on

What the hell is going on

Are you stoned? Or are you just talking about the lineup? If you're referring to the lineup, it's preseason, and it's a common thing not to play all your starters the same night. Has to suck for the people that wanted to see Pronger's debut.

ROSTER
(based on the packed gear at AI today)

#10 - Perry
#15 - Getzlaf
#17 - Penner
#21 - O'Donnell
#23 - Beauchemin
#26 - Pahlsson
#33 - DiPenta
#37 - O'Brien
#39 - Green
#40 - Huskins
#42 - Gillies
#43 - Melin
#44 - R. Niedermayer
#45 - Thornton
#52 - Carter
#54 - Ryan
#55 - Salcido
#74 - Stewart
#1 - Leighton
#30 - Bryzgalov

Aeryn takes no responsibility for errors in reporting...she was precariously leaning over the railing to (literally) read the writing on the wall. ;)

good lineup for a first pre-season game...Gillies and Thornton can deal with any problems that may arise.

Finally, Ducks hockey. I just got my tickets for the November 9th game: Anaheim vs. Vancouver. I will be the only guy at GM place cheering for Anaheim, hopefully I'lll come back alive that day.

Are you sure Burke won't be there? Or do you think he might be afraid to cheer for the Ducks. For your sake I hope you come home alive. To my knowledge only about 38 opposing team fans have been killed at GM place in the past two years.:D

I guess it's going to be fight night at the Toyota Center, huh! I'm going tonight and it should be a good game. I want to see how Penner does and Kopitar for the Kings.


Should be a back and forth,high scoring game!

Are you stoned? Or are you just talking about the lineup? If you're referring to the lineup, it's preseason, and it's a common thing not to play all your starters the same night. Has to suck for the people that wanted to see Pronger's debut.

Er, no, I know not everyone's going to dress in a preseason game. My confusion stemmed from a Gameday thread with cookie monster and more smilies than god ever intended.

Er, no, I know not everyone's going to dress in a preseason game. My confusion stemmed from a Gameday thread with cookie monster and more smilies than god ever intended.

Ah come on ken, you know you like them. :)

So I guess we are waiting until gametime on NHL.com to see if we can listen to it over the internet?

Bobby's first game on NHL ice, should be interesting.

Heading to the game soon...by myself unfortunately. Kings vs Ducks is always great though. I don't care if its preseason. The prospect game was great. Hell, I'll watch Kings vs Ducks if they were 7 year old pee wee kids.

LETS GO DUCKS!

Anyone has any info on how to listen to the game?

Er, no, I know not everyone's going to dress in a preseason game. My confusion stemmed from a Gameday thread with cookie monster and more smilies than god ever intended.
What? You don't like the allducksification of HF?

Anyone has any info on how to listen to the game?
you can listen to it at the la kings website and going to the "Listen Live" part i think. AM 830 does not stream online:madfire: .

Are you sure Burke won't be there? Or do you think he might be afraid to cheer for the Ducks. For your sake I hope you come home alive. To my knowledge only about 38 opposing team fans have been killed at GM place in the past two years.:D

People in Vancouver love Burke, they respect him a lot. And thanks for the side note there, I am feeling so much safer already.

Go Ducks!

What? You don't like the allducksification of HF?

More, I don't like my message board making me dizzy.

More, I don't like my message board making me dizzy.

DFC has that effect on people. :teach:

:biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :yo: :yo: :yo:

2-0 Kings after 1st.

Is the "listen live" thing working for anybody? I click on it and nothing happens...

Getzlaf scores!
2-1

Is the "listen live" thing working for anybody? I click on it and nothing happens...

no it doesn't work...no way to listen to the game online.

Kings radio station shuts off their online feed during any professional sports game.

Ducks radio station does not stream online.

NHL.com is not doing online radio until the regular season.

4-1 Kings after 2. Sucky score, but an entertaining game. :) 3 fights already.

4-1 Kings after 2. Sucky score, but an entertaining game. :) 3 fights already.
Hopefully someone at the game has pictures.

4-1 Kings after 2. Sucky score, but an entertaining game. :) 3 fights already.

any idea who was in the fights?

any idea who was in the fights?

O'Donnell vs Avery (roughing penalties only)
Gillies vs Ivanans
Shawn Thornton vs Ivanans

any idea who was in the fights?

Gillies drawed Ivanans
Thornton defeated Ivanans
OD pounded a turtling Avery (:yo: )

PP is really hurting the Ducks this game. They have had plenty of PP chances, but not enough actualy scoring chances. Well, actually they haven't had a lot of scoring chances in general.

Gillies drawed Ivanans
Thornton defeated Ivanans
OD pounded a turtling Avery (:yo: )

Gillies was cut, don't know how you could really call that a draw.

Avery and O'Donnell wasn't even a fight.

Another fight, O'Brien beats Kostopolous. Lands all the punches in the fight. :jump:

5-1 now though. My goodness. :speechles

Who is in net?

Who is in net?

Leighton for the first three, Bryz for the last two.

it doesn't sound like they can be really faulted. Just my interpretation.

Leighton for the first three, Bryz for the last two.

it doesn't sound like they can be really faulted. Just my interpretation.

I was just wondering...

5-1 against the Kings. This truly sucks :cry:.

Avery and Karl Stewart fighting.

Avery won the fight. Landed a few punches pretty quickly before Stewart could react and then the refs broke it up.

I am lovin' all of these fights.

EDIT: Avery was given an instigator on the play. So, that explains the lack of reaction from Stewart.

7-1 final. Kind of depressing, but oh well. :(

Ilya: 17 shot - 13 saves

How the mighty have fallen, preseason or not.

Ilya: 17 shot - 13 saves

How the mighty have fallen, preseason or not.
Lame.

EDIT: Avery was given an instigator on the play. So, that explains the lack of reaction from Stewart.

Wrong.

Anaheim roughing - 2 min 13:55, K. Stewart
Anaheim charging - 2 min 13:55, K. Stewart
Los Angeles roughing - 2 min 13:55, S. Avery
Los Angeles roughing - 2 min 13:55, S. Avery served by O. Pavelec (no clue who that is)
Los Angeles hooking - 2 min 13:55, S. Avery

haha. I was there though. Avery started punching before Stewart even dropped his stick, much less his gloves. Who is suprised though? its old news...

This is a good wake up call for the guys. Even though the Ducks 4 best players were not in this one (Scotty, Pronger, Teemu, Andy Mac). Hopefully this bad loss will motivate them all to work harder in training camp and get ready for when the games really matter.

Salcido had like 20 minutes of ice time. That had to be a thrill for him.

Avery tried to fight O'donnell and lost. :D Horrible game though, they couldn't move the puck around and kept missing the net.

Ahhh, whatever. No Cheesy Mac & Salami or Prongermeyer. I'll start caring when the season starts. 0-fer in the preseason means nothing in June when you are 4-fer in the Cup finals.

Avery is a little punk. He squared up against O'Donnell but then turtled with his gloves on. I couldn't see what happened against Stewart so I won't comment.

The Ducks were just out of sync. Penner/Getzlaf/Perry had a strong game but couldn't finish. The Kings had a difficult time containing that line but Getzlaf and Perry had too much rust. Pahlsson and Nieds played a strong checking game. Other than that, not much from the other forwards.

The defense was a let down. O'Brien was given the monster load paired with O'Donnell but he looked nervous. He played horrible in the first and never rebound. Without SNieds and Pronger, you would think Beauch would step up his game but he had a quiet game. DiPenta, Huskin, and Salcido were the other Dman.

By the score, you would think goaltending was a letdown. I don't know. I thought Leighton played solid and soaked up some rebounds. Bryz came in and didn't close the door on anyone. The team in front of the goalies just gave the Kings too many good chances.

Overall, the Ducks get a D+. Obviously, they were missing alot of speed and talent on the blueline. However, the team just didn't play as well as we are accustomed with a full complement. There were alot of good things to see such as how strong the Getzlaf line is cycling the puck. Getz looked awesome at some points of the game. He is due for a breakout season. After watching tonight debacle, Scotty Nieds can't come back soon enough. Without him, the defense just looks lost IMO.

Avery is was and always will be a punk. Avery was yapping with Stewart in the 3rd period and then only dropped them with everyone close. Gilles looked like he wanted to kill Avery but everyone got there first.

Some Kings fans thought they had just won the Cup... one actually said as they were walking out "see you later, better luck next time." Apparently they didn't see what happened in the off-season, but I'm not too worried considering we all know what happens in games that actually count with the Queenies.

the only way we will ever see Avery be willing to fight where the other person has a chance to throw off their gloves and be in the fight is if a female hockey player is someday good enough to make the NHL...cause Avery will never fight a man. he is a sissy!

Here's what I posted over at AllDucks.com... I hope I don't start any arguments with my observations and opinions...

My take on the players tonight:

(Thanks to Aeryn for the roster!)

#10 - Perry - He made a few bone-head passes and attempted moves, but in all honesty, he looked OKAY. I think he'll start to loosen up and fit in better once season starts.

#15 - Getzlaf - What a stud. This guy was one of the few who looked like he was a veteran playing out there. I really liked what I saw.

#17 - Penner - He looked like he wasn't much faster nor bigger. Not to me anyway. He got pushed off the puck a few times in the beginning which was not like him. He seemed a bit too relaxed or something, not giving his all. He did have his moments though. I predict once he settles in and the season starts, like Perry, he'll be fine.

#21 - O'Donnell - He punched Avery. Enough said.

#23 - Beauchemin - I think God is now French-Canadian.

#26 - Pahlsson - I also think Jesus Christ is Swedish.

#33 - DiPenta - Still skates a bit oddly, haha, but that makes him special. He did just fine and even had a decent shot or two on net.

#37 - O'Brien - Impressed, but he didn't look like someone who could be on a NHL team's starting roster. He DID play well though, don't get me wrong. I could trust him to take DiPenta's spot, but that's probably about it. He had a beautiful fight with NHL fighter, Tom Kostopolus (sp?) and did very well, so his fighting skills will translate nicely to the NHL level. If I was Carlyle, I'd need a longer look at him to make a decision.

#39 - Green - Just as expected. He's basically this year's Tyler Wright.

#40 - Huskins - Looked like a career minor-leaguer but a safe player to call up in case of injuries.

#42 - Gillies - He had a fight, which was better than the one last season when he got KOed. Nothing special.

#43 - Melin - Kid has got pretty good size and skill, but not worthy of NHL time, not even a call-up I don't think. I think a few years in the AHL would end up greatly benefiting him. He could turn out to be a "fancier" Pahlsson.

#44 - R. Niedermayer - The usual.

#45 - Thornton - Short but fiesty. Had a very nice rumble. He's got decent speed and he's not a liability when he's out there. So maybe a decent call-up if Fedoruk and/or Moen go down.

#52 - Carter - It seemed like he would have been really special if he just got more time with the puck. He was trustworthy away from the puck. I just wish he could have had the puck on his tape a bit more.

#54 - Ryan - Slow and bad cordination from my point of view. Very talented, no doubt, but he seemed pretty much invisible all night.

#55 - Salcido - I was most impressed with this guy. I am not understanding why he hasn't been mentioned much or gotten a better look. He looked so poised and controlled. A surprise player to fill out our D? I am very impressed with this fella'.

#74 - Stewart - Think Konopka. That's who is basically. I was furious that Avery jumped him, Stewart would have put him down to the ice. He really reminded me of a Konopka. I really liked his play.

#1 - Leighton - Awesome. He really made me say "holy ****" one or two times. Too bad the guy was left out to dry half the time. He was a great pick up.

#30 - Bryzgalov - I don't think he was trying too hard at all, to be honest.


Anyway, those are my opinions of each player, and I'm sticking to them.

Ah preseason, you guys know we've never won our preseason opener? Not once, so this doesn't bother me at all. We bascially had one of our lines intact (Penner, Getzlaf and Perry) and two-thirds of another (Sammy and Robbie) and literally half of all three of our D pairings. So I was to expect a lot of misdirection and lack of team speed on the ice. What was amazing though is we dominated in attack time and puck control but weren't shooting the puck and not driving the net. Also, they couldn't clear a rebound out for the life of them. In fact, their whole defensive zone coverage was extrememly poor. I think they are fatigued a little bit so once they get their legs under them they'll get a lot better. That and my God the penalties. I know it seems like I'm anti-Shane O'Brien on these boards but I'm really not, but that kid took two bad penalties and they both resulted in goals. His fight was nice but my biggest worry with him is he's going to be a penalty-machine and his skills don't justify him to be so. He moves the puck well though I'll give him that.

Getzy was the only guy who showed up tonight. Really, really good. He looked good in the circle too which is a very good sign. Franky looked sharp and so did OD but it seemed like the rooks were getting all the ice-time. I was actually very impressed with Kent Huskins. He has great control and patience with the puck and was good positionally too. I could see him squeeze into the final roster if none of the rooks show they are really ready.

I enjoyed myself tonight because it was hockey at the Pond again (it's still the Pond for two more weeks) 7-1 is never fun no matter for the game. Oh and Avery is such a freaking pansy. Won't drop the gloves with someone bigger than him and always catches the guys his size off guard unlike the other three fights. I can't stand that annoying little man and was thrilled to see him kicked out of the game.

Some Kings fans thought they had just won the Cup... one actually said as they were walking out "see you later, better luck next time." Apparently they didn't see what happened in the off-season, but I'm not too worried considering we all know what happens in games that actually count with the Queenies.

Yeah I had some behind me that were seriously acting like this was game 7 of the first hockey freeway series. It was so lame and they were making snide remarks about how great their team was and how much the Ducks suck. Usually I like to mix it up with Kings fans at games (makes it fun) but in this case there were just a bunch of morons in LA jerseys that didn't know anything about hockey.

Oh my God you ducks fans crack me up. Watching you squirm in your seats while Avery takes over the start of the game is pure bliss.

:biglaugh:

"He had a beautiful fight with NHL fighter, Tom Kostopolus"

:dunno: What the ?

Since when was Kostopolus an NHL fighter?

Avery and Stewart were yapping at each other towards the end of the third period and both had pretty much established that they were going to go at it.

There was a whistle on the play Stewart had already started his run at Avery and didn't let up and after he hit him Avery went after him. What more do you want?

I missed the start of the O'Donnel (fixed) incident but he had Avery tied up with his jersey over his head and took a nice shot at him. I don't blame him, but this was NOT Avery turtling. Please check your definitions.

Ivanans won the first fight by a slim margin, but was definitely beat in the second fight with Gillies I believe.

Yes it is preseason and all your top guys were out as were a nice chunk of the top Kings players were as well as up and coming rookies that I wanted to see. (Kopitar & O'Sullivan)

Perry looked flat but Getzlaf looked like he was on a whole nother level then any of the ducks players. He looked like an all star out there with no one to play with.

All in all I know this is not a precursor to the regular season but you have to take the good when you can get it with the Kings. Looking forward to making this a bigger rivalry.

I missed the start of the Penner incident but he had Avery tied up with his jersey over his head and took a nice shot at him. I don't blame him, but this was NOT Avery turtling. Please check your definitions.


It was Sean O'Donnell, not Dustin Penner who was involved.

Lets clarify your definition of "turtling."

Did Avery keep his gloves on? yes/no

Did Avery lower his head as to protect his beautiful face? yes/no

Did Avery use his gloves to protect his face from getting pummeled? yes/no

If you answer yes to all three questions, then you have your definition of "turtling." Getting his jersey pulled over is a result of not squaring up against your opponent.

It was Sean O'Donnell, not Dustin Penner who was involved.

Lets clarify your definition of "turtling."

Did Avery keep his gloves on? yes/no

Did Avery lower his head as to protect his beautiful face? yes/no

Did Avery use his gloves to protect his face from getting pummeled? yes/no

If you answer yes to all three questions, then you have your definition of "turtling." Getting his jersey pulled over is a result of not squaring up against your opponent.

If those are the questions you ask yourself to decide if someone is turtling then you in fact believe that Stewart turtled against Avery?

Because I wouldn't describe the Stewart/Avery altercation as 'turtling' by Stewart. It looked to me that one guy caught the other guy off guard leading to a scuffle that wasn't your typical fight with a few blows thrown. This is exactly how I would describe the Avery/O'Donnell incident. Not 'turtling.'

If those are the questions you ask yourself to decide if someone is turtling then you in fact believe that Stewart turtled against Avery?

Because I wouldn't describe the Stewart/Avery altercation as 'turtling' by Stewart. It looked to me that one guy caught the other guy off guard leading to a scuffle that wasn't your typical fight with a few blows thrown. This is exactly how I would describe the Avery/O'Donnell incident. Not 'turtling.'

My sightline was obstructed when Stewart and Avery went off so I won't comment. However, I saw the Avery/O'Donnel conflict. Avery was chirping at O'Donnell ten feet away at the players bench. Both guys squared up against one another, yapping something. When O'Donnell dropped his gloves and skated to fight, Avery just covered up without throwing one punch.

Here's what I posted over at AllDucks.com... I hope I don't start any arguments with my observations and opinions...

My take on the players tonight:

(Thanks to Aeryn for the roster!)

#10 - Perry - He made a few bone-head passes and attempted moves, but in all honesty, he looked OKAY. I think he'll start to loosen up and fit in better once season starts.

#15 - Getzlaf - What a stud. This guy was one of the few who looked like he was a veteran playing out there. I really liked what I saw.

#17 - Penner - He looked like he wasn't much faster nor bigger. Not to me anyway. He got pushed off the puck a few times in the beginning which was not like him. He seemed a bit too relaxed or something, not giving his all. He did have his moments though. I predict once he settles in and the season starts, like Perry, he'll be fine.

#21 - O'Donnell - He punched Avery. Enough said.

#23 - Beauchemin - I think God is now French-Canadian.

#26 - Pahlsson - I also think Jesus Christ is Swedish.

#33 - DiPenta - Still skates a bit oddly, haha, but that makes him special. He did just fine and even had a decent shot or two on net.

#37 - O'Brien - Impressed, but he didn't look like someone who could be on a NHL team's starting roster. He DID play well though, don't get me wrong. I could trust him to take DiPenta's spot, but that's probably about it. He had a beautiful fight with NHL fighter, Tom Kostopolus (sp?) and did very well, so his fighting skills will translate nicely to the NHL level. If I was Carlyle, I'd need a longer look at him to make a decision.

#39 - Green - Just as expected. He's basically this year's Tyler Wright.

#40 - Huskins - Looked like a career minor-leaguer but a safe player to call up in case of injuries.

#42 - Gillies - He had a fight, which was better than the one last season when he got KOed. Nothing special.

#43 - Melin - Kid has got pretty good size and skill, but not worthy of NHL time, not even a call-up I don't think. I think a few years in the AHL would end up greatly benefiting him. He could turn out to be a "fancier" Pahlsson.

#44 - R. Niedermayer - The usual.

#45 - Thornton - Short but fiesty. Had a very nice rumble. He's got decent speed and he's not a liability when he's out there. So maybe a decent call-up if Fedoruk and/or Moen go down.

#52 - Carter - It seemed like he would have been really special if he just got more time with the puck. He was trustworthy away from the puck. I just wish he could have had the puck on his tape a bit more.

#54 - Ryan - Slow and bad cordination from my point of view. Very talented, no doubt, but he seemed pretty much invisible all night.

#55 - Salcido - I was most impressed with this guy. I am not understanding why he hasn't been mentioned much or gotten a better look. He looked so poised and controlled. A surprise player to fill out our D? I am very impressed with this fella'.

#74 - Stewart - Think Konopka. That's who is basically. I was furious that Avery jumped him, Stewart would have put him down to the ice. He really reminded me of a Konopka. I really liked his play.

#1 - Leighton - Awesome. He really made me say "holy ****" one or two times. Too bad the guy was left out to dry half the time. He was a great pick up.

#30 - Bryzgalov - I don't think he was trying too hard at all, to be honest.


Anyway, those are my opinions of each player, and I'm sticking to them.

I, too, was at the game, which, in a word, was "dreadful". I know it's pre-season; I know it's the first pre-season game; and I know only a handful of guys who'll be on the roster played, but . . . the game was hideous.

I used Mose's quote, above, because I agree with most of his assessments. On a night when nobody on the Ducks shined, Ryan Carter did manage to catch my eye once or twice. Hard to make predictions based upon seeing a guy play only once, but, in light of the three goals he potted in the rookie tournament last week, I like this kid's potential.

Like many of the rest of you have noted, I, too, like Karl Stewart. Pepper, here's your 2006-2007 Konopka model. I get the feeling that we will be seeing him sometime during the coming season.

Finally, I also liked what I saw of Brian Salcido.

You queens treat this game as if you won the stanley cup:eek:. I mean you had your ENTIRE defense corps there to defend you guys, which made it difficult for the ducks' rookies to create any offense.

Blake and Gleason weren't playing but they did have Vishnovski, Norstrom, Sopel and Weaver whereas we just had Beauch, OD and Joey D. They also didn't have their entire top line so it's really pointless to rationalize their win by picking who they had playing and who they didn't.

Forgot about Blake and Gleason, but it's not like they are going to make a huge difference. They had Vishnovsky and Norstrom on the ice avg. 22 minutes and I would consider them the upper tier defensemen for the Queens last season.

p.s. are you with us or against us? There is no in between.

Oh my God you ducks fans crack me up. Watching you squirm in your seats while Avery takes over the start of the game is pure bliss.

:biglaugh:

"He had a beautiful fight with NHL fighter, Tom Kostopolus"

:dunno: What the ?

Since when was Kostopolus an NHL fighter?

Avery and Stewart were yapping at each other towards the end of the third period and both had pretty much established that they were going to go at it.

There was a whistle on the play Stewart had already started his run at Avery and didn't let up and after he hit him Avery went after him. What more do you want?

I missed the start of the O'Donnel (fixed) incident but he had Avery tied up with his jersey over his head and took a nice shot at him. I don't blame him, but this was NOT Avery turtling. Please check your definitions.

Ivanans won the first fight by a slim margin, but was definitely beat in the second fight with Gillies I believe.

Yes it is preseason and all your top guys were out as were a nice chunk of the top Kings players were as well as up and coming rookies that I wanted to see. (Kopitar & O'Sullivan)

Perry looked flat but Getzlaf looked like he was on a whole nother level then any of the ducks players. He looked like an all star out there with no one to play with.

All in all I know this is not a precursor to the regular season but you have to take the good when you can get it with the Kings. Looking forward to making this a bigger rivalry.

Hello Icyfur. Kostopolus is far from a good NHL player. He is a 4th like, part-time enforcer. O'Brien isn't even in the NHL. So, it's fair to say O'Brien fighting a guy who only is out there to protect and "Grind" was a fight between a rookie and an NHL enforcer. Kostopulos is a bad player. But an okay fighter. He's had his fair share of bouts with light-to-middle weights. And it was beautiful, because O'Brien kicked his ***.

So now two players yapping automatically means that at one point, one of them should jump the other without the other player being aware that he is about to be attacked? I get it now, that makes complete sense! He could have faced Stewart and fought him like a man.

O'Donnell and Avery was a perfect example of why Avery is a chicken-****. Avery started the whole incident, yapping shoving, so, O'Donnell shoved back, yapped back, when you keep shoving, that's a clear message that we're going to drop the gloves, so, O'Donnell did right in front of him and Avery had plenty of time to drop his, instead, he TURTLED. No matter how you slice it, HE TURTLED. And what did it get him? A penalty. AWESOME MOVE BY AVERY. So, please check your definitions.

Thanks for dropping by to stir up the rivalry a bit!

Hello Icyfur. Kostopolus is far from a good NHL player. He is a 4th like, part-time enforcer. O'Brien isn't even in the NHL. So, it's fair to say O'Brien fighting a guy who only is out there to protect and "Grind" was a fight between a rookie and an NHL enforcer. Kostopulos is a bad player. But an okay fighter. He's had his fair share of bouts with light-to-middle weights. And it was beautiful, because O'Brien kicked his ***.

So now two players yapping automatically means that at one point, one of them should jump the other without the other player being aware that he is about to be attacked? I get it now, that makes complete sense! He could have faced Stewart and fought him like a man.

O'Donnell and Avery was a perfect example of why Avery is a chicken-****. Avery started the whole incident, yapping shoving, so, O'Donnell shoved back, yapped back, when you keep shoving, that's a clear message that we're going to drop the gloves, so, O'Donnell did right in front of him and Avery had plenty of time to drop his, instead, he TURTLED. No matter how you slice it, HE TURTLED. And what did it get him? A penalty. AWESOME MOVE BY AVERY. So, please check your definitions.

Thanks for dropping by to stir up the rivalry a bit!

:clap: :clap: :clap:

Hello Icyfur. Kostopolus is far from a good NHL player. He is a 4th like, part-time enforcer. O'Brien isn't even in the NHL. So, it's fair to say O'Brien fighting a guy who only is out there to protect and "Grind" was a fight between a rookie and an NHL enforcer. Kostopulos is a bad player. But an okay fighter. He's had his fair share of bouts with light-to-middle weights. And it was beautiful, because O'Brien kicked his ***.

So now two players yapping automatically means that at one point, one of them should jump the other without the other player being aware that he is about to be attacked? I get it now, that makes complete sense! He could have faced Stewart and fought him like a man.

Thanks for dropping by to stir up the rivalry a bit!
Wrong, Kostopolous is an AHL 1st line guy/NHL 4th line player who happens to drop the gloves occasionally. And O'Brien isn't in the NHL for a reason, he's prone to take bad penalties. So it basically comes down to two AHL guys getting into a fight, and TK is far from being an okay fighter. He's Kelly Buchburger part two. All heart, no talent in fights.

As far as the whole Avery-Stewart thing. It's pretty obvious that Stewart attacked him, or else he wouldn't have gotten the charging penalty. It's not Avery's fault if Stewart didnt drop the gloves quick enough after charging him.

Whatever. I don't see the point in getting worked up over the 1st preseason game versus a (soon to be) last place team.

Wrong, Kostopolous is an AHL 1st line guy/NHL 4th line player who happens to drop the gloves occasionally. And O'Brien isn't in the NHL for a reason, he's prone to take bad penalties. So it basically comes down to two AHL guys getting into a fight, and TK is far from being an okay fighter. He's Kelly Buchburger part two. All heart, no talent in fights.

As far as the whole Avery-Stewart thing. It's pretty obvious that Stewart attacked him, or else he wouldn't have gotten the charging penalty. It's not Avery's fault if Stewart didnt drop the gloves quick enough after charging him.

I will admit being wrong about Kostopolos then, but I do think he is a light-weight fighter in the league, not along the lines of enforcer, but a fighter regardless.

I'll be honest, I didn't see the Avery-Stewart thing completely, so I won't comment any further. From my point of view, it seemed Stewart was looking for something, but Avery just jumped on him, I think it would have made Avery look better if he would have "squared off" or something.

But thanks for posting here with respect and not starting anything.

Not that this deserves much of a reply because it is a direct representation of your lack of knowledge in this area, I will oblige anyways.

Our entire defense corp? Where was Blake, Miller, and Gleason?

Not going to mention that our top scorers were also absent. (Camalleri, Frolov, Conroy)

I don't know why you can't just handle a horrible disgusting loss by your rookie/vet mix against our rookie/vet mix.

I guess that could be the duck blood talking.

And your low-class illegal immigrant comment says a lot about yourself as well as your age.

Thanks for replying.

Some of the comments he said we're out-of-line. As a Duck fan, I'll speak up for a few of us who know that we both had our fair share of vets dressed and that it had nothing to do with our beating. The Kings were the better team; end of story.

Hello Icyfur. Kostopolus is far from a good NHL player. He is a 4th like, part-time enforcer. O'Brien isn't even in the NHL. So, it's fair to say O'Brien fighting a guy who only is out there to protect and "Grind" was a fight between a rookie and an NHL enforcer. Kostopulos is a bad player. But an okay fighter. He's had his fair share of bouts with light-to-middle weights. And it was beautiful, because O'Brien kicked his ***.

See Reaper's reply.

So now two players yapping automatically means that at one point, one of them should jump the other without the other player being aware that he is about to be attacked? I get it now, that makes complete sense! He could have faced Stewart and fought him like a man.

Obviously you didn't see this whole scirmish so you shouldn't reply to this.



O'Donnell and Avery was a perfect example of why Avery is a chicken-****. Avery started the whole incident, yapping shoving, so, O'Donnell shoved back, yapped back, when you keep shoving, that's a clear message that we're going to drop the gloves, so, O'Donnell did right in front of him and Avery had plenty of time to drop his, instead, he TURTLED. No matter how you slice it, HE TURTLED. And what did it get him? A penalty. AWESOME MOVE BY AVERY. So, please check your definitions.

Thanks for dropping by to stir up the rivalry a bit!

Let's get this straight again. Talking and agitating is one thing. Everyone on the ice knows Avery runs his mouth. He got to O'Donnell and O'Donnell wanted a piece and went after him. Got him tangled up and his jersey around his head and gave him a good uppercut. Great! That's not turtling Avery got tied up, he wasn't trying to run away. We will go back to the fact that Avery is there to be a pest, everyone knows this.

Fact: O'Donnell : 6'3 228lbs
Avery: 5'10 195lbs

Fact: Avery is not going to willingly fight a monster that much bigger than him. Neither would any other person in their right mind on skates. Unless your Tom Kostopolus.

And I admitted that I ought to keep my mouth shut and only say what I saw, which I did in the reply to... the other guy above me. Forgot his name.



Let's get this straight again. Talking and agitating is one thing. Everyone on the ice knows Avery runs his mouth. He got to O'Donnell and O'Donnell wanted a piece and went after him. Got him tangled up and his jersey around his head and gave him a good uppercut. Great! That's not turtling Avery got tied up, he wasn't trying to run away. We will go back to the fact that Avery is there to be a pest, everyone knows this.

Fact: O'Donnell : 6'3 228lbs
Avery: 5'10 195lbs

Fact: Avery is not going to willingly fight a monster that much bigger than him. Neither would any other person in their right mind on skates.[/QUOTE]

If Avery was agitating OR talking but didn't want a piece, when the showing progressed, he should have went for a change, or skated away. O'Donnell didn't "go after him", it's not like he ran after him. If Avery is willing to fight, maybe he ought to watch his mouth instead of getting penalties and turtling. He did turtle, I saw the whole fight from a very good angle. Burying your head down and raising your hands in defense is not turtling? Alright.



Whatever, I'm not going to start arguing on the internet about this, as others have said, only a stupid pre-season game and we're bitter that we lost, haha. But in all honesty, what it comes down to, is none of us know what Avery was saying. Maybe O'Donnell was out of line, maybe Avery was saying, "Hey Sean, how ya been?" or maybe it was the other way? Who knows. Thanks for the posts Kings fans, always nice to stir up the tension a bit.

It's a preseason game. Really, who cares.

Just to help clear up some crap:

Player you’d expect on opening night roster:

Kings:
Armstrong
Avery
Belanger
Brown
Norstom
Sopel
Thornton
Weaver
Kostopoulos
Visnovsky


Ducks:
Perry
Getzlaf
Penner
O'Donnell
Beauchemin
Pahlsson
DiPenta
Green
R. Niedermayer




I'd say, as far as dressing typical NHL starters, we were even.

Forgot about Blake and Gleason, but it's not like they are going to make a huge difference. They had Vishnovsky and Norstrom on the ice avg. 22 minutes and I would consider them the upper tier defensemen for the Queens last season.

p.s. are you with us or against us? There is no in between.

I'm for us (though I do root for the Kings when they aren't playing against us but don't hold that against me) but I prefer a level playing field. I'm not a fan of excuses and when our team plays bad, they play bad. But last night was in no way shape or form any kind of realisitic repersentation of how either team will perform this year. Because anyone who thinks the Ducks will have such a hard time covering their own zone, moving the puck and getting more scoring chances with Pronger, Scotty, Teemu and Mac in the lineup has another thing coming.

Just to help clear up some crap:

Player you’d expect on opening night roster:

Kings:
Armstrong
Avery
Belanger
Brown
Norstom
Sopel
Thornton
Weaver
Kostopoulos
Visnovsky


Ducks:
Perry
Getzlaf
Penner
O'Donnell
Beauchemin
Pahlsson
DiPenta
Green
R. Niedermayer




I'd say, as far as dressing typical NHL starters, we were even.

I would have to agree, but it seems to me some of the other ducks fans didn't think so.

I'm looking forward to a regular season game. Even if we don't do well this year to beat the Ducks over .500 would make me very happy.

End the racist remark. It will not be tolerated here. I have cleaned it up alittle but if I miss anything, PM me. There will be no more warnings.

Just to help clear up some crap:

Player you’d expect on opening night roster:

Kings:
Armstrong
Avery
Belanger
Brown
Norstom
Sopel
Thornton
Weaver
Kostopoulos
Visnovsky


Ducks:
Perry
Getzlaf
Penner
O'Donnell
Beauchemin
Pahlsson
DiPenta
Green
R. Niedermayer




I'd say, as far as dressing typical NHL starters, we were even.


Look at their defense and compare it to the ducks'. In addition to that, they had all their huge goons picking on the younglings. Anyways, my point is that the Queens can go ahead and enjoy their pre-season win and boast their self-asteem now while it lasts.

Oh, and if your a kings fan please don't post on the ducks' board o.k.

I would have to agree, but it seems to me some of the other ducks fans didn't think so.

I'm looking forward to a regular season game. Even if we don't do well this year to beat the Ducks over .500 would make me very happy.

I used to share those exact same setiments back when the Ducks were a two-trick pony. But the Kings will be good this year, Marc Crawford doesn't run a bad team. These 8 games should be great.

Look at their defense and compare it to the ducks'. In addition to that, they had all their huge goons picking on the younglings. Anyways, my point is that the Queens can go ahead and enjoy their pre-season win and boast their self-asteem now while it lasts.

Oh, and if your a kings fan please don't post on the ducks' board o.k.

We had more fighters dressed than they did. I didn't see anyone picking on anyone?

I think you ought to relax a bit. When fans from other teams post here in a polite way, what's the problem? We're all just talking hockey. I truly enjoy Kings fans posting here and other team's fans posting because it gives a different view of things that every person needs.

Look at their defense and compare it to the ducks'. In addition to that, they had all their huge goons picking on the younglings. Anyways, my point is that the Queens can go ahead and enjoy their pre-season win and boast their self-asteem now while it lasts.

We had Lubo, Norstrom and Sopel. Missing Blake and Gleason

You had Beauchemin, DiPenta, and O'Donnell. Missing Nieds and Pronger.

Goons picking on the younglings? That's bizzare I don't remember any of that happening. I remember a few heavyweights fighting both squared off and were ready to rumble. No picking going on.



Oh, and if your a kings fan please don't post on the ducks' board o.k.

I'm a fan of hockey.

End the racist remark. It will not be tolerated here. I have cleaned it up alittle but if I miss anything, PM me. There will be no more warnings.

edited:

I will be contacting you by PM shortly.

Jerky

See Reaper's reply.



Obviously you didn't see this whole scirmish so you shouldn't reply to this.




Let's get this straight again. Talking and agitating is one thing. Everyone on the ice knows Avery runs his mouth. He got to O'Donnell and O'Donnell wanted a piece and went after him. Got him tangled up and his jersey around his head and gave him a good uppercut. Great! That's not turtling Avery got tied up, he wasn't trying to run away. We will go back to the fact that Avery is there to be a pest, everyone knows this.

Fact: O'Donnell : 6'3 228lbs
Avery: 5'10 195lbs

Fact: Avery is not going to willingly fight a monster that much bigger than him. Neither would any other person in their right mind on skates. Unless your Tom Kostopolus.

LoL so Avery is different becuase we know that he likes to be a pest? That's just stupid. If you're pushing and shoving a guy, and you're squared up to him, it's pretty obvious that you're going to fight. It just shows how stupid Avery is. If Avery doesn't want to fight O'Donnell then don't run your mouth and square up.

It's a preseason game. Really, who cares.

Basically. Sure we beat the Ducks 7-1, great, but so what it's only preseason.

Basically. Sure we beat the Ducks 7-1, great, but so what it's only preseason.

Way to stir the pot.

Ahh, my job as MOD. Why or why didn't I just quit? First of all, everyone is welcome as long as they follow the rules located in FAQ.

http://hfboards.com/faq.php?faq=terms_of_service#faq_hf_rules

Second, we are here to discuss hockey, primarily the Ducks. If you want to engage in private conversation, I suggest you take it to PM (private messaging).

Third, we are not here to proselytized our own beliefs. Everyone's belief system will be respected. Saying "Oh my GOD" is not fighting words to take up jihad.

If this is a representation of how GDT's are going to go this season, it sucks.

correct me if i'm wrong (although i was at the game, and some of you will try and correct me anyway), but didn't O'Donnell get an extra two for roughing Sean prior to his altercation with Avery? now i'z ain't no hockey genius, but who goaded who?

correct me if i'm wrong (although i was at the game, and some of you will try and correct me anyway), but didn't O'Donnell get an extra two for roughing Sean prior to his altercation with Avery? now i'z ain't no hockey genius, but who goaded who?

I left this part out so you could come in here and say it. But you are correct. I was going to go on and call you what another poster here classifies us as, but that would be in bad taste and I was told not to do so.

Basically. Sure we beat the Ducks 7-1, great, but so what it's only preseason.

I like to think of it this way: congratulations to the LA Kings for beating the Augusta Lynx and Portland Pirates. :snide:

I like to think of it this way: congratulations to the LA Kings for beating the Augusta Lynx and Portland Pirates. :snide:

Sure. I don't know if this is reverse comedy because someone listed the players on the ice. Pretty close to even vet/rookie mix. Not sure how you got that twisted.

Kings played better than us this game and that's it. We had almost no good scoring chances and we kept missing the net. It was a good game for the Kings. Let's see what happens in the regular season.

avery owns the ducks

avery owns the ducks

:dunce:

...and the ducks own Avery.

avery owns the ducks

Avery is a diver.

It's lockdown time.

Just to help clear up some crap:

Player you’d expect on opening night roster:

Kings:
Armstrong
Avery
Belanger
Brown
Norstom
Sopel
Thornton
Weaver
Kostopoulos
Visnovsky


Ducks:
Perry
Getzlaf
Penner
O'Donnell
Beauchemin
Pahlsson
DiPenta
Green
R. Niedermayer




I'd say, as far as dressing typical NHL starters, we were even.

And if you think that the Kings typical NHL starters can be compared to those of the Ducks... that's probably the funniest thing I've heard all week. Congratulations. :propeller

LoL .. Avery is a sideshow. clown shoes.

See Reaper's reply.



Obviously you didn't see this whole scirmish so you shouldn't reply to this.




Let's get this straight again. Talking and agitating is one thing. Everyone on the ice knows Avery runs his mouth. He got to O'Donnell and O'Donnell wanted a piece and went after him. Got him tangled up and his jersey around his head and gave him a good uppercut. Great! That's not turtling Avery got tied up, he wasn't trying to run away. We will go back to the fact that Avery is there to be a pest, everyone knows this.

Fact: O'Donnell : 6'3 228lbs
Avery: 5'10 195lbs

Fact: Avery is not going to willingly fight a monster that much bigger than him. Neither would any other person in their right mind on skates. Unless your Tom Kostopolus.
Oh my god, i'm tired of people listing Averys size everytime he turtles. If you are going to talk like a 6'6 240 pounder back it up.

And if you think that the Kings typical NHL starters can be compared to those of the Ducks... that's probably the funniest thing I've heard all week. Congratulations. :propeller

I never said that they can be compared, but okay. Whatever you say pal.

Worst GDT ever.

Ok, this discussion is running in circles now. In order for me to close this thread, I have to go through my checklist.

1) Ranting on Bobby Ryan's skating? check

2) Ranting on Sean Avery's behavior? check

3) My team is better than your team? check

4) Starting a jihad based on fighting words? check

5) Complaining about how this is the worst GDT ever? check

Case closed. Thank you for playing.