Goaltending Situation More Complicated Than You Think

Has anyone taken a look at the goaltending situation for every franchise? Not just at the NHL level, but all the way down to draft prospects? The over abundance of goaltenders is amazing.

Assuming Ilya wins the job (likely his reward from carlyle for signing the two year deal): who would want giguere, especially as a partial-year rental? Even an unforseen injury to a starter is no guarantee, seeing as most teams are 2-3 goalies deep, and knowing Burke, he'd want top value for Giguere from a desperate team (which no team will do for a goalie making essentially $4 mil going into UFA).

Burke really wasted his opportunity to get anything for Jiggy.

Has anyone taken a look at the goaltending situation for every franchise? Not just at the NHL level, but all the way down to draft prospects? The over abundance of goaltenders is amazing.

Assuming Ilya wins the job (likely his reward from carlyle for signing the two year deal): who would want giguere, especially as a partial-year rental? Even an unforseen injury to a starter is no guarantee, seeing as most teams are 2-3 goalies deep, and knowing Burke, he'd want top value for Giguere from a desperate team (which no team will do for a goalie making essentially $4 mil going into UFA).

Burke really wasted his opportunity to get anything for Jiggy.

He didn't waste his oppurtunity. He saved our *** IMO. People are so hyped on Bryz because of the playoffs. Most people here would say that Bryz played well in the playoffs, but not great. Not near as good as Jiggy played during the stretch to get us into the playoffs, not even close IMO. Bryz got to much hype because of that shutout streak, but the thing is, there weren't to many great saves, our defense just played really well. I would have been feeling a lot worse going into the season if Bryz was here and Jiggy wasn't. Not to mention, no team was needing Jiggy that bad during the offseason. I mean we can at least wait tell the deadline to deal one of them, when a team needs a starter for sure due to injury or because of bad playing by their starter. Keeping Jiggy was the right thing to do.

Not near as good as Jiggy played during the stretch to get us into the playoffs, not even close IMO. Bryz got to much hype because of that shutout streak, but the thing is, there weren't to many great saves, our defense just played really well.

What games were you watching? If anything, our team was on fire and Giguere was simply in net. We were averaging close to 4 goals a game during March/April. I'm not saying Jiggy played bad, but when a team averages near 4 goals a game, it's not hard to come out with a W. For you to discredit Bryz for the defense playing really well and then praise Giguere without mentioning that our offense was on fire is ridiculous.

What games were you watching? If anything, our team was on fire and Giguere was simply in net. We were averaging close to 4 goals a game during March/April. I'm not saying Jiggy played bad, but when a team averages near 4 goals a game, it's not hard to come out with a W. For you to discredit Bryz for the defense playing really well and then praise Giguere without mentioning that our offense was on fire is ridiculous.

Bryzgalov played a few games behind that same lineup, and was giving up softies ... for a while, it was roughly one per start. It made it tougher to win games. Giguere meanwhile was a rock during that stretch; unspectacular perhaps, but you could count the weak ones over the last two months on one hand. There's a reason Carlyle went with Giguere when we absolutely had to win games to make the playoffs, and not Bryzgalov.

He didn't waste his oppurtunity. He saved our *** IMO. People are so hyped on Bryz because of the playoffs. Most people here would say that Bryz played well in the playoffs, but not great. Not near as good as Jiggy played during the stretch to get us into the playoffs, not even close IMO. Bryz got to much hype because of that shutout streak, but the thing is, there weren't to many great saves, our defense just played really well. I would have been feeling a lot worse going into the season if Bryz was here and Jiggy wasn't. Not to mention, no team was needing Jiggy that bad during the offseason. I mean we can at least wait tell the deadline to deal one of them, when a team needs a starter for sure due to injury or because of bad playing by their starter. Keeping Jiggy was the right thing to do.

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He didn't waste his oppurtunity. He saved our *** IMO. People are so hyped on Bryz because of the playoffs. Most people here would say that Bryz played well in the playoffs, but not great. Not near as good as Jiggy played during the stretch to get us into the playoffs, not even close IMO. Bryz got to much hype because of that shutout streak, but the thing is, there weren't to many great saves, our defense just played really well. I would have been feeling a lot worse going into the season if Bryz was here and Jiggy wasn't. Not to mention, no team was needing Jiggy that bad during the offseason. I mean we can at least wait tell the deadline to deal one of them, when a team needs a starter for sure due to injury or because of bad playing by their starter. Keeping Jiggy was the right thing to do.

Quoted for truth.

What games were you watching? If anything, our team was on fire and Giguere was simply in net. We were averaging close to 4 goals a game during March/April. I'm not saying Jiggy played bad, but when a team averages near 4 goals a game, it's not hard to come out with a W. For you to discredit Bryz for the defense playing really well and then praise Giguere without mentioning that our offense was on fire is ridiculous.

It's ridiculous hu? Well when people were arguing that Bryz should be the starter, they simply stated that he was awesome in the playoffs and Jiggy wasn't. They gave Jiggy no recognition of what he down the stretch for us, so I'd say I'm being fair.

He didn't waste his oppurtunity. He saved our *** IMO. People are so hyped on Bryz because of the playoffs. Most people here would say that Bryz played well in the playoffs, but not great. Not near as good as Jiggy played during the stretch to get us into the playoffs, not even close IMO. Bryz got to much hype because of that shutout streak, but the thing is, there weren't to many great saves, our defense just played really well. I would have been feeling a lot worse going into the season if Bryz was here and Jiggy wasn't. Not to mention, no team was needing Jiggy that bad during the offseason. I mean we can at least wait tell the deadline to deal one of them, when a team needs a starter for sure due to injury or because of bad playing by their starter. Keeping Jiggy was the right thing to do.

This should stop anyone from making a Giguere/Bryzgalov thread.

Well said Duckstudd :clap:

This should stop anyone from making a Giguere/Bryzgalov thread.

Well said Duckstudd :clap:

Thanks man, and thank you to the others who agree with me. I'm just glad we have both going into the season.

Giguere is still the starter in my opinion, though I do think we'll see whoever is hot playing until they drop a bad game, then out they go and in comes the other. Rinse and repeat.

I agree down the stretch Giguere was a lot more impressive than Bryz was in the playoffs. Giguere in the playoffs was also not 100% from what I have read, so I wouldn't blame him too much for not playing great in round 1.

Just be happy we do have 2 #1 goalies :)

Giguere is still the starter in my opinion, though I do think we'll see whoever is hot playing until they drop a bad game, then out they go and in comes the other. Rinse and repeat.

Am I the only one who thinks this isn't necessarily a healthy option when keeping two good goalies around? One-bad-bout-and-your-out might keep the two on their toes, but it also may make them so nervous that their focus will be totally disturbed. How can a goalie build any confidence when you treat him like a rookie: One screw up and you're gone! I can see applying this pressure to Bryzgalov, seeing as he has never done anything for a significant stretch (30+ games). This new system is a horrible reward for any goalie who has put in as much service as Giguere. I couldn't imagine the upper end guys like Luongo and Vokoun putting up with a rotating door system, because Giguere is of that ilk. Goalies are going to toss in a bad start every once in a while, and you justifiably punish them over it every case, but apparently burke/carlyle will. Carlyle SGOULD set the two in their positions going into Game 1 ("You are #1, you are #2 for the first 20 games and we'll re-evaluate the situation after that stretch), but it seems carlyle is a Burke puppet. These two will not make it to the trade deadline.

This rotating door rookie treatment will cause at least one to demand a trade well before that point, and then so much for having two good goalies in the playoffs.

Burke is a GM, like Clarke, who does not believe that goaltender is the most important position. Neither have ever invested much in the position, nor are astute evaluators of the position, which might explain why both have always put together talented teams...with the exception of the starter in net. Now Burke has TOO MUCH talent in net, and he will manage to alienate these two. Florida fans will find out soon that, despite much changing in the New NHL, great goaltending is still the most crucial piece to a great Cup run; when you play with that element, your team suffers no matter how good the rest of your supporting cast happens to be. Let's not call Burke a genius for the Pronger move just yet, because his handling of the saga in net may prove to be infinitely more important.

He didn't waste his oppurtunity. He saved our *** IMO. People are so hyped on Bryz because of the playoffs. Most people here would say that Bryz played well in the playoffs, but not great. Not near as good as Jiggy played during the stretch to get us into the playoffs, not even close IMO. Bryz got to much hype because of that shutout streak, but the thing is, there weren't to many great saves, our defense just played really well. I would have been feeling a lot worse going into the season if Bryz was here and Jiggy wasn't. Not to mention, no team was needing Jiggy that bad during the offseason. I mean we can at least wait tell the deadline to deal one of them, when a team needs a starter for sure due to injury or because of bad playing by their starter. Keeping Jiggy was the right thing to do.

+1.

I don't see why Bryz should be rewarded by Carlyle with the #1 job for signing a contract. That makes no sense. Also, I think it's perfectly fine to have two starter worthy goalies. Buffalo lost Miller for a significant amount of time and didn't miss a beat with Biron filling in. I like the insurance that if one of these guys goes down, the Ducks will be fine. If Luongo goes down in Vancouver, their season is basically over. Another thing that is funny is that according to a few posters Giguere should get no credit for his play in the last two months, but Bryz is a superstar for his playoff when the Ducks played their 6 best games of the season in concluding the Calgary series and sweeping the Avs. If you're not going to give credit to one, you can't give credit to the other considering the team was playing well in both stretches. As much as I don't like it, I have a feeling Giguere will be moved by the deadline. I think Burke will get a better package at that point than he would have during the offseason. I like Giguere and would hate to see him moved, but that's just a gut feeling I have.

can someone show me an article where Bryz says he needs to be the starter or else he is extremly pissed? because i havent read one. without that i see no contraversy.

Only three goalies played 70 or more games last year. An additional eight played 60 or more games, and an additional eight played 50 games or more. If one of our goalies is injured or doesn't perform, do you really want to accept a second-rate substitute for 20 or 30 games in what is supposed to be our banner year?

And what's to be gained by trading one? The goalie controversy, like the quarterback controversy, is more often a media device to generate words when they have nothing else to say. Trade Bryz when he only makes a million? And who would take Jiggy for $4-million all season when he's a UFA and there is a glut of goaltenders available?

Give it up. The team is set for now, and there's no need for three threads this month about the subject.

Only three goalies played 70 or more games last year. An additional eight played 60 or more games, and an additional eight played 50 games or more. If one of our goalies is injured or doesn't perform, do you really want to accept a second-rate substitute for 20 or 30 games in what is supposed to be our banner year?

And what's to be gained by trading one? The goalie controversy, like the quarterback controversy, is more often a media device to generate words when they have nothing else to say. Trade Bryz when he only makes a million? And who would take Jiggy for $4-million all season when he's a UFA and there is a glut of goaltenders available?

Give it up. The team is set for now, and there's no need for three threads this month about the subject.

Word.