06-07 Training Camp [Archive]

fez

09-11-2006, 05:40 AM

http://www.anaheimducks.com/press/release/article.php?dir=200609&id=1410

Training Camp Opens September 15th

ANAHEIM, Calif. – The National Hockey League’s (NHL) Anaheim Ducks announced today that the club will open its 13th Training Camp on Friday, Sept. 15 at Anaheim ICE. All of the club’s practices at Anaheim ICE this season will be open to the public and free of charge.

The team will hold two simultaneous practice sessions each day, one on each sheet of ice (NHL and Olympic size). The club will also scrimmage each of the first three days of training camp at 10:45 a.m. each day. Most on-ice practices begin at 9:45 a.m.

No. NAME HT WT POS S/C BIRTHPLACE BIRTHDATE 2005-06 CLUB
1 Michael Leighton 6-3 186 G L Petrolia, Ontario May 19, 1981 Rochester (AHL)
8 Teemu Selanne 6-0 204 RW R Helsinki, Finland July 3, 1970 Anaheim (NHL)
10 Corey Perry 6-3 202 RW R Peterborough, Ontario May 16, 1985 Anaheim (NHL)/Portland (AHL)
14 Chris Kunitz 6-0 194 LW L Regina, Saskatchewan Sept. 26, 1979 Atlanta/Anaheim (NHL)/Portland. (AHL)
15 Ryan Getzlaf 6-3 213 C R Regina, Saskatchewan May 10, 1985 Anaheim (NHL)/Portland (AHL)
17 Dustin Penner 6-4 245 RW L Winkler, Manitoba Sept. 28, 1982 Portland (AHL)/Anaheim (NHL)
18 Ian Moran 6-0 200 D R Cleveland, Ohio August 24, 1972 Boston (NHL)
19 Andy McDonald 5-11 186 C L Strathroy, Ontario August 25, 1977 Anaheim (NHL)
21 Sean O’Donnell 6-3 228 D L Ottawa, Ontario Oct. 31, 1971 Phoenix/Anaheim (NHL)
22 Todd Marchant 5-10 180 C L Buffalo, New York August 12, 1973 Columbus/Anaheim (NHL)
23 Francois Beauchemin 6-0 214 D L Sorel, Quebec June 4, 1980 Columbus/Anaheim (NHL)
24 Stanislav Chistov 5-10 200 LW R Chelyabinsk, Russia April 17, 1983 Mettalurg (Russia)
25 Chris Pronger 6-6 220 D L Dryden, Ontario Oct. 10, 1974 Edmonton (NHL)
26 Samuel Pahlsson 6-0 212 C L Ornskoldsvik, Sweden Dec. 17, 1977 Anaheim (NHL)
27 Scott Niedermayer 6-1 200 D L Edmonton, Alberta August 31, 1973 Anaheim (NHL)
29 Todd Fedoruk 6-2 241 LW L Redwater, Alberta Feb. 13, 1979 Anaheim (NHL)
30 Ilya Bryzgalov 6-3 208 G L Togliatti, Russia June 22, 1980 Anaheim (NHL)
31 Nathan Marsters 6-4 211 G L Burlington, Ontario Jan. 28, 1980 Portland (AHL)/Augusta (ECHL)
32 Travis Moen 6-2 216 LW L Stewart Valley, Saskatchewan April 6, 1982 Anaheim (NHL)
33 Joe DiPenta 6-2 205 D L Barrie, Ontario Feb. 25, 1979 Anaheim (NHL)
34 Aaron Rome 6-1 233 D L Nesbitt, Manitoba Sept. 27, 1983 Portland (AHL)
35 J.S. Giguere 6-1 200 G L Montreal, Quebec May 16, 1977 Anaheim (NHL)
36 Geoff Peters 6-1 205 C R Hamilton, Ontario April 30, 1978 Portland (AHL)
37 Shane O’Brien 6-2 237 D L Port Hope, Ontario August 9, 1983 Portland (AHL)
38 Ryan Shannon 5-9 173 C R Darien, Connecticut March 2, 1983 Portland (AHL)
39 Travis Green 6-2 200 C R Castlegar, British Columbia Dec 20, 1970 Boston (NHL)
40 Kent Huskins 6-3 215 D L Ottawa, Ontario May 4, 1979 Portland (AHL)
41 David McKee 6-1 187 G L Irving, Texas Dec. 5, 1983 Cornell (ECAC)
42 Trevor Gillies 6-3 210 LW L Cambridge, Ontario Jan. 30, 1979 Portland (AHL)/Anaheim (NHL)
43 Bjorn Melin 6-1 205 LW R Jonkoping, Sweden July 4, 1981 HV 71 (Sweden)
44 Rob Niedermayer 6-2 204 C L Cassiar, British Columbia Dec. 28, 1974 Anaheim (NHL)
45 Shawn Thornton 6-1 209 RW R Oshawa, Ontario July 23, 1977 Chicago (NHL)/Norfolk (AHL)
46 Curtis Glencross 6-1 186 C L Kindersley, Saskatchewan Dec. 28, 1982 Portland (AHL)
47 Tim Brent 6-0 196 C R Cambridge, Ontario March 10, 1984 Portland (AHL)
48 Colby Genoway 6-0 201 RW R Morden, Manitoba Dec. 12, 1983 Hartford (AHL)
49 Pierre Parenteau 5-11 195 RW R Hull, Quebec March 24, 1983 Portland (AHL)
50 Brett Skinner 6-1 183 D L Brandon, Manitoba June 28, 1983 Manitoba (AHL)
51 Shane Hynes 6-3 220 RW R Montreal, Quebec Nov. 7, 1983 Portland (AHL)
52 Ryan Carter 6-1 205 C L White Bear Lake, Minnesota August 3, 1983 Minnesota State-Mankato (WCHA)
53 Brett Festerling 6-1 198 D L Quesnel, British Columbia March 3, 1986 Vancouver (WHL)
54 Bobby Ryan 6-2 217 RW R Cherry Hill, New Jersey March 17, 1987 Owen Sound (OHL)/Portland (AHL)
55 Brian Salcido 6-2 195 D L Hermosa Beach, California April 14, 1985 Colorado College (WCHA)
56 Petteri Wirtanen 6-1 202 C L Hyvinkaa, Finland May 28, 1986 HPK (Finland)
57 Clay Wilson 6-0 195 D L Sturgeon Lake, Minnesota April 5, 1983 Muskegon (UHL)/Grand Rapids (AHL)
58 Drew Miller 6-2 170 LW L Dover, New Jersey Feb. 17, 1984 Michigan St. (CCHA)/Portland (AHL)
59 Nathan Saunders 6-4 218 D R Charlottetown, P.E.I. April 25, 1985 Portland (AHL
60 Brendan Mikkelson 6-2 200 D L Regina, Sask. June 22, 1987 Portland (WHL)/Vancouver (WHL)
67 Michael Wall 6-2 209 G L Telkwa, British Columbia July 25, 1985 Portland (AHL)/Augusta (ECHL)
68 J.P. Levasseur 6-0 195 G R Victoriaville, Quebec Jan. 15, 1987 Rouyn-Nornada (QMJHL)
74 Karl Stewart 5-10 180 C L Aurora, Ontario June 30, 1983 Atlanta (NHL)/Chicago (AHL)
77 Bruno St. Jacques 6-2 210 D L Montreal, Quebec August 22, 1980 Anaheim (NHL)/Portland (AHL)
78 Simon Ferguson 6-0 200 LW R Edmonton, Alberta April 6, 1983 Portland (AHL)

Looking down that list I see a lot of talent and not a whole lot of roster spots, tightest training camp ever? Anyone see any surprises happening?

TheJoeMan

09-11-2006, 12:37 PM

There's exactly on d-man spot and one, maybe two forward spots depending on if Burkey will carry 22 or 23 men. My gut tells me it'll be 23 only if Bobby Ryan makes the team but he gets sent back he'll keep it at 22 like he did last season. No try-outs this year unless Simon Ferguson counts, don't know if he was ever signed by the Ducks.

CHRDANHUTCH

09-11-2006, 01:06 PM

MightyAdam

09-11-2006, 01:16 PM

I say Moran and O'Brien (7th d-man) make the team. Skinner would be the next call-up if one of those two were to get hurt.

TheJoeMan

09-11-2006, 01:19 PM

I find it interesting that Brendan Mikkelson is the only player not signed to be in camp. All other draftees are going home after the rookie tournament. Could be because camp is crowded enough and that whole contract limit thing. What's good though is that are team is already basically set in stone and they can work towards a championship starting at Day 1.

McDonald19

09-11-2006, 08:27 PM

No try-outs this year unless Simon Ferguson counts, don't know if he was ever signed by the Ducks.

yeah technically he is an invite.

Kick Save

09-11-2006, 08:59 PM

http://www.anaheimducks.com/press/release/article.php?dir=200609&id=1410

Looking down that list I see a lot of talent and not a whole lot of roster spots, tightest training camp ever? Anyone see any surprises happening?

If we really could see some surprises, I guess they wouldn't be surprises. There's very little room on the roster. Invariably, though, there will be at least one guy who wasn/t expected to do anything who will shine. Likewise, there probably will be one guy who was expected to make the roster who stinks up the joint. It's anybody's guess who that player---or those players---will be.

My guess is that if some guy who isn't expected to make the roster plays really well, he still may be shipped out. His reward will come if and when a roster spot opens up.

Guys like Moran and O'Brien would not be "surprises". Someone like Colby Genoway would.

Jag68Sid87

09-14-2006, 02:31 PM

Where are Jordan Smith and Matt Auffrey?

Kevin Forbes

09-14-2006, 02:37 PM

Where are Jordan Smith and Matt Auffrey?

Smith is retired (not sure if it is official or not), his career at this point is at least at a standstill after losing one of his eyes. He's the reason for the new visor rule in the AHL.

Auffrey is returning to Kitchener for another season of OHL hockey.

Kevin Forbes

09-14-2006, 02:53 PM

I find it interesting that Brendan Mikkelson is the only player not signed to be in camp.

Forgot Levasseur...

Jag68Sid87

09-14-2006, 03:06 PM

Jerky Leclerc

09-14-2006, 03:12 PM

Not many Euros on the list. The only ones I see are Teemu, Chistov, Bryz, Melin, and Wirtanen. No Euro defensemen in this organization for a loooooonnng time.

CHRDANHUTCH

09-14-2006, 04:50 PM

Smith is retired (not sure if it is official or not), his career at this point is at least at a standstill after losing one of his eyes. He's the reason for the new visor rule in the AHL.

Auffrey is returning to Kitchener for another season of OHL hockey.

Kevin:

Anaheim is honoring the contract that Jordan Smith had signed but it is not considered a "retirement" because it was not on Jordan's terms nor did Anaheim have to honor that contract---it was a medically advised mutual agreement or settlement once the injury happened.

I suspect Jordan will be around both in Ducks training camp as well as in Portland periodically either. It'll be no surprise that Jordan will land in a front office position in the future.

Kevin Forbes

09-14-2006, 05:01 PM

I stand apparently corrected, Smith is not retired (officially or unofficially) but on a medically advised mutual agreement/settlement. My apologies for providing false information.

Jerky Leclerc

09-14-2006, 05:26 PM

I stand apparently corrected, Smith is not retired (officially or unofficially) but on a medically advised mutual agreement/settlement. My apologies for providing false information.

So Kevin. Got any more lies you want to fess up about? :allears:

Kevin Forbes

09-14-2006, 05:33 PM

you know how I said I interviewed Brendan Mikkelson and Brett Festerling at the Memorial Cup...

well truth be told, I didn't go to the Memorial Cup. "Brendan Mikkelson" is my cat, Leroy and "Brett Festerling" is actually me recording myself when I was asleep.

TheJoeMan

09-14-2006, 07:44 PM

Forgot Levasseur...

My mistake. Still though, only two. I think this will be good for the club because we can go into the season having mainly veterens on the club and hopefully avoid rookie mistakes and growing pains that kept us from winning the Cup last year.

Kevin Forbes

09-15-2006, 12:05 PM

Hey guys, I sent a Training Camp preview into my editor earlier this week, so keep an eye out for that. I know they're a little back logged with articles at the moment, but it should be appearing sometime today. Just basically discusses what openings there are and who is expected to compete.

silver_made*

09-15-2006, 02:52 PM

If anyone is attending practices with a camera, can you please post pictures? I'm curious to see what Giguere looks like in the new jerseys, particularly the new paint-job on his mask.

Benji Frank

09-15-2006, 03:12 PM

BowDown2Chistov

09-15-2006, 05:37 PM

I just got home from watching day 1, someone asked about giggys mask, he was using the same one, so was bryz. It was really good as far as the turnout is concerd, last year was just a couple die hards and chicks asking for fedorovs phone number. teemu looked good back in 8. I really cant see ryan making the team this year, he really needs alot of improvment in the basic area's mainly skating. Chistov was really good, and no Im not just saying that cause IM a chessy mark, he really got in there and threw his weight around, he did gain some size, and he nailed fedork with one of the best checks Ive seen in awhile and his stick handling in just amazing to watch. Giggy looked to have an off day, bryz was really good along with mckee and Levasseur. I was taken back by green, I never knew how gritty he could be. Pronger did his thing in D, knocked teemu down once in scrim but that was it. When I left bret syvern was giving people pizza on the way out.

also I got to talking with someone there and we both couldent remember if we still have bobby bolt?

Randall Graves*

09-15-2006, 06:05 PM

My friend was there and agrees with you about Chistov Oates4life.

Chistov23

09-15-2006, 06:07 PM

My friend was there and agrees with you about Chistov Oates4life.

:bow: Chistov!

Damn, I knew I should of bought his jersey. :(

Ducksforcup

09-15-2006, 07:00 PM

TheJoeMan

09-15-2006, 07:45 PM

First day of camp was very encouraging. High, high tempo. Crisp passes and a lot of coession. A lot of guys haven't lost a step and couple even improved by what I saw today. Things of note:

-Chris Kunitz is amazing. He was the best skater out there today and was on the puck a lot during the scrimmage. Looks very confident out there and I imagine where he left out last season.

-Dustin Penner's skating has improved since the playoffs which is a very, very good sign. Was a force every time he was on the ice.

-We've got four d-men, Skinner, Rome, St. Jacques and O'Brien, all of similar skill and all could be a toss up to make the team. Skinner was attacking a lot yet not getting out of position. OB is a good player and I enjoyed seeing his throw big open ice hits. I paid close attention to him and he was good but nothing special, no better than DiPenta or Moran. Rome doesn't shoot the puck all that well but really good in the corners and carries the puck well. St. Jasques probably has the most talent out of the bubble d-men as far as the first day is concerned I'd say he's in the drivers seat to make the team but it was just the first day.

-Goalies looked sharp. Jiggy didn't get a lot of shots (Pronger was on the white squad so you can imagine his lack of pucks) but looked comfortable for the most part. Bryz made a lot of good saves but so did everybody. Marsters turned into a wall at the end of the scrimmage.

-Cheesy looked like Cheesy out there. If he got bigger he's hiding it and Russia didn't get him to shoot the puck more. I'm telling you guys, he's not that fast. Skates very well but still tries to skate around guys with the puck rather than pass it and blow past them like Mac, Kunie and Teemu. Had a great PS which made me very happy because he could help us improve that gaping deficeny from last year.

-Scotty and Pronger are amazing.

-Fridge looked good, as did Moen and Green. Our grinders came to play and that was a welcome site. Fridge notched a couple of garbage goals in the scrimmage and was skating well as usual. Can't emphasize enough how much I like Todd Fedoruk, great player.

-A lot of Portland bound players looked sharp like Shannon (what is with his churpping?), Glencross, Genoway, Gillies and Peters. But the one minor leaguer that impressed me the most was Karl Stewert. That kid has a lot grit, speed and fair amount of skill. I could see him being our first callup. Melin was pretty good too, surprisingly physical for a Swede (well for a Swede in our organization that is).

-Finally, Bobby Ryan. The kid has skills no doubt about it but his foot speed and leg strength is laughable. He was paired up with Andy Mac for most breakout drills and in the scrimmages and looked comfortable in the offensive zone but he can't keep up and gets beat to loose pucks very easily. I still think a whole camp and some NHL games will improve him in these areas but not enough to stick around. He has to make incredible strides (no pun intended) every day to make this team. I'd love it if he does but it doesn't look good.

Well that's about it, I'm going again tomorrow and maybe even Sunday so if anyone wants me to look for anything specific or whatever let me know.

Jerky Leclerc

09-15-2006, 07:45 PM

Thanks for the report. Anyone going tomorrow? I heard it was crowded and parking was tough.

Spankatola Jamnuts

09-15-2006, 08:40 PM

Parking wasn't too bad. It's as crowded as I've ever seen it, though. I'd get there early if you're going over the weekend, the bandwagon for this team is ginormous now.

I hate Pronger, but he's damn good. Niedermayer is better at controlling play and covering mistakes, but Pronger scares the bejesus out of attackers. You can see them ease up on the forecheck when they're on his side of the ice.

Chistov did look good, no matter what the Joe Man says, but he is still trying the lame one-on-one stuff. If he could learn the concept of a give and go he'd be a top six player easily.

Kunitz also looked really good, as did Penner. Fedoruk to me looked like he was skating even better than last season. Maybe it's just that the players don't have a season's accumulation of nagging pains, but they were all in top gear.

Except Ryan. He's an iceberg. Species evolved while he was forechecking. I saw one play where Moran had time to smoke a cig, chat up a lady in the stands, and finish a coke before Ryan got to him. And then he missed.

The goalies looked solid. These guys are good. I think all we have to do is avoid injuries and we should be looking at a fast start in the standings, for once. What's it been, 13 years?

BowDown2Chistov

09-15-2006, 08:49 PM

TheJoeMan

09-15-2006, 09:13 PM

Kevin Forbes

09-15-2006, 09:40 PM

Spankatola Jamnuts

09-15-2006, 10:19 PM

I didn't say Cheesy was bad, I said he looked like his old self ie he looked just as good as we last saw him skill wise. I just wanted to see some more speed from him and more shots. He's good, just nothing special.
He's actually very similar to Kunitz right now, except Kunitz is more willing to shoot and is a more effective forechecker.

lux_interior

09-15-2006, 10:34 PM

Good to hear the reports. But I'm not looking forward to the Ducks being in "in" thing to do in the OC. (Even though I live in LA).

Lyons71

09-15-2006, 10:56 PM

YEAH!! I have something to do tomorrow!

Jerky Leclerc

09-16-2006, 01:33 AM

I don't think it is so much new fans jumping on the bandwagon but rather Ducks fans coming out of the woodworks to support the team. I remember watching training camp with 5 other people at Disney Ice before the Stanley Cup run. How times have change.

Randall Graves*

09-16-2006, 03:07 AM

I didn't say Cheesy was bad, I said he looked like his old self ie he looked just as good as we last saw him skill wise. I just wanted to see some more speed from him and more shots. He's good, just nothing special.
But Kunitz is amazing? I think he falls under the category of nothing special as well.

BowDown2Chistov

09-16-2006, 04:35 AM

But Kunitz is amazing? I think he falls under the category of nothing special as well.

lol, we can go untill were blue in the face, kunitz=GOD and chistov= average.

TheJoeMan

09-16-2006, 04:40 AM

But Kunitz is amazing? I think he falls under the category of nothing special as well.

Yeah, Kunie was awesome in the drills I saw and he was tearing up the ice in the scrimmage. Chistov is good, he can be a lot better but Kunitz out works him considerably. We can debate about each others skills though I think Kunie is no sloutch, but there's no debate about who works harder.

Hockeyfan02

09-16-2006, 10:21 AM

Not liking what I'm hearing about Ryan. :(

Professor John Frink

09-16-2006, 12:03 PM

Not liking what I'm hearing about Ryan. :(

The guy is a project. Anyone who followed the team since he was drafted know this. But he is a pilon on the ice. And make no mistake he won't do much if he can't learn to skate. Thats where my hockey career went alll wrong as apparently you have to know how to skate to play.

SOmething both myself and Ryan failed to realized in our hockey careers.

Duckstudd269

09-16-2006, 12:53 PM

Hey for those of you going to the next camp. I would like to hear more about Getzlaf and Perry. Getzlaf is my favorite player, and there doesn't seem to be much news about either him or Perry. Plus if someone didn't mind, I'd love to know the teams during the scrimmages. Knowing who plays with who would be great as well.

Spankatola Jamnuts

09-16-2006, 01:50 PM

They weren't really that noticable on the first day. Part of it is the new numbers - Getzlaf has Lupul's old number, it's disorienting. He looks a little beefier this year, looks like he's skating a little quicker. Maybe someone who goes today will have something more to say.

Perry didn't do much.

Beaner

09-16-2006, 02:14 PM

Kevin Forbes

09-16-2006, 02:24 PM

Any updates you have for us WHL fans on how Mikkelson and Festerling are doing specifically would be greatly appreciated.

I am the most curious as to wether or not you think Festerling will be headed back to the Giants or to the Ducks AHL team this year. We could really use him back here in the dub.

My guess is expect him back in Vancouver. Anaheim has an overflow of defensemen at the pro level with Salcido and Wilson signed.

Ducksforcup

09-16-2006, 02:47 PM

Training Camp Article from the OC Register. :)

http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/sports/pros/abox/article_1277718.php

Goaltender Jean-Sebastien Giguere wasn't sure he would be back in a Ducks uniform given the way last season ended.

"I was wondering," Giguere said Friday after completing the club's opening day of training camp at Anaheim Ice. "Because of my situation, with only one year left on my contract and being a free agent next year, you always wonder what's going to happen. I'm just happy I'm here."

Upon signing a two-year contract earlier this month, Bryzgalov labeled the situation "a huge mess" and said he had been misquoted.

"He came right up to me and explained himself," Giguere said. "It wasn't necessary for him to do that, but it was pretty good of him. It's between me and Bryz, and we'll just leave it at that. It's no big deal, really. I've seen worse before. I don't worry about things like that. I worry about what I can do to help this team. That's where my focus is."

NOTES

Left wing Todd Fedoruk pronounced himself recovered from a staph infection in his right elbow that cost him the final two games of last season's playoffs. Center Andy McDonald reported improvement in the inflamed right hand that hampered him in the final two rounds of the playoffs. "I wouldn't say it's 100 percent, but it's getting close," McDonald said. Coach Randy Carlyle praised the conditioning level of the team, saying players improved an average of 3-4 percent from last season.

:)

(NOTE: I deleted a few paragraphs to make the article smaller, so click the link to read the rest of the article).

Ducksforcup

09-16-2006, 03:22 PM

Another article! This time from LATIMES.com. :)

http://www.latimes.com/sports/hockey/nhl/ducks/la-sp-duckrep16sep16,1,3224212.story?coll=la-headlines-sports-nhl-ducks

Chris Pronger hoped to merely fit in with the Ducks upon his arrival. As if a former NHL most valuable player in the prime of his career can just fit in.

The defenseman got the star treatment Friday on the first day of training camp as he fielded questions in a temporary interview room at Anaheim Ice, the Ducks' practice facility. It was clear that the blockbuster July 3 trade with the Edmonton Oilers for 6-foot-6 Pronger wasn't a standard transaction.

"We know exactly what he's about, playing against Edmonton," Ducks forward Todd Fedoruk said of the teams' Western Conference finals matchup. "He was a force for them. To have him on our side … that's awesome."

Jean-Sebastien Giguere said he wasn't bothered by disparaging comments attributed to fellow goaltender Ilya Bryzgalov during the summer.

Coach Randy Carlyle said Giguere and Bryzgalov would share the workload in the eight exhibition games.

Right wing Shane Hynes was the lone player among the 51 in camp who did not skate. Hynes is recovering from a knee injury that limited him to 12 games last season with minor league Portland.

Hope you recover Hynsie!

(NOTE: I deleted a few paragraphs to make the article smaller, so click the link to read the rest of the article).

Kevin Forbes

09-16-2006, 03:37 PM

careful with copyright violations Ducksforcup,

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Jerky Leclerc

09-16-2006, 06:00 PM

Some random thoughts from training camp.

That Karl Stewart is some piss and vinnegar isn't he? He is a relentless worker. Shannon reminds me of a young Andy Mac. If he learns to be shifty and bulk up, this kid could be some player. Right now, he looks like he's wearing his older brother's jersey. Ryan looks good when he has the puck on his stick. Its the other 95% of the time when he's skating that worries me. Interesting to see Chistov paired with Marchant and Penner. Something tells me he has his position locked up. Shane O'Brien was paired with Ian Moran. It looks like Carlyle is getting them to know each other. Hmm...

fez

09-16-2006, 07:17 PM

Chistov was really good, and no Im not just saying that cause IM a chessy mark, he really got in there and threw his weight around, he did gain some size, and he nailed fedork with one of the best checks Ive seen in awhile and his stick handling in just amazing to watch.

**** yea, see this team has way too much hype right now and I am sick of all the media already labelling it a sure cup winner, but if the season goes to **** and everything crashes and burns I will be happy if Chistov makes a comeback and shows what he can really do. I believe in this guy and always have.

Randall Graves*

09-16-2006, 07:23 PM

The guy is a project. Anyone who followed the team since he was drafted know this. But he is a pilon on the ice. And make no mistake he won't do much if he can't learn to skate. Thats where my hockey career went alll wrong as apparently you have to know how to skate to play.

SOmething both myself and Ryan failed to realized in our hockey careers.
If he was a mid round pick his issues would be alot easier to wait on, using the #2 overall pick in a strong draft at the top is questionable at the very least..especially seeing how Kopitar, Brule, and Johnson have developed..

Professor John Frink

09-16-2006, 09:26 PM

If he was a mid round pick his issues would be alot easier to wait on, using the #2 overall pick in a strong draft at the top is questionable at the very least..especially seeing how Kopitar, Brule, and Johnson have developed..

He is 19 years old. Look I am not sold on him either and would have much rather had JJ with that pick. But these scouts have been good so I certainly trust them over you or me.

The only thing I care about is what happens when he gets to the pro game. I don't care about training camp. In a year he will become a pro and play in the AHL lets talk about it then. I want to focus more on the guys who have a chance to make this team.

John Belushi

09-16-2006, 10:21 PM

Not many Euros on the list. The only ones I see are Teemu, Chistov, Bryz, Melin, and Wirtanen. No Euro defensemen in this organization for a loooooonnng time.

Vishnevski? Niemi? Salei? Ozolinsh? Havelid? Skoula?

Spankatola Jamnuts

09-16-2006, 10:24 PM

All gone, see?

BowDown2Chistov

09-17-2006, 05:20 AM

is ozo at rangers camp?

DuckTales22

09-17-2006, 06:18 AM

is ozo at rangers camp?

looks that way: http://www.newyorkrangers.com/team/trainingcamp06/rosterFull.asp

yarre

09-17-2006, 09:53 AM

Kimi

09-17-2006, 10:15 AM

Is there a chance of Björn Melin making it into the team this year do you guys think? With five losses (from my team, HV71) to the NHL this year I have to spread my watch and follow them in new teams, and Björn Melin is my favorite of the ones we have lost.
He's got a chance, but it'll be on the bottom lines. There's a greater chance he'll start the year in Portland, even if it's just to get use the american game.

Static

09-17-2006, 12:12 PM

It is sounding like Ryan Shannon is having an excellent camp...it will be interesting come cut time. I wonder who will be playing tomorrow against the Kings? I will be there so I hope to see him playing...

Ducksforcup

09-17-2006, 01:09 PM

Really good Ian Moran article from the OC Register.

http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/sports/atoz/article_1278510.php

Shortly after the NHL's annual free-agency period began July 1, veteran defenseman Ian Moran and his wife, Britta, were sharing a meal with another couple.

"They asked if I could sign with any one team, who would it be," Moran said Saturday. "I said the Ducks. That's the truth. It had nothing to do with location. It had to do with what I thought the team could be and how close they could be to winning the (Stanley) Cup."

"Literally, every day it feels better," Moran said. "Yesterday, every time I stepped on the ice, I was thinking about it (knee injury), but that was also the first time I had played in a game with any kind of legitimate contact since the end of October. Today, I would go back and get the puck, and not worry about it. I felt a lot better today than yesterday. I'm sure I'll feel a lot better tomorrow than today."

"When you get to a certain age, if you haven't won a Cup, that's all you think about," he said. "How much longer do I have, and where is it going to be? I've been on some teams that have come close, but this is a damn good team right here. Being an older guy, I just want to fit in and do the little things that help a team win."

:clap:

Also, according to the article, Hynes has been sent down to Portland. :( Poor guy.

Duckstudd269

09-17-2006, 03:11 PM

Really good Ian Moran article from the OC Register.

http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/sports/atoz/article_1278510.php

:clap:

Also, according to the article, Hynes has been sent down to Portland. :( Poor guy.

I know he's had a lingering injury. There's no way he makes the big club, so I guess they just sent him down so they don't have to worry about him. When does the team usually start sending players back? Obviously they are going to keep guys who are fighting for spots for long periods of time, but when do they usually start to send players back?

McDonald19

09-17-2006, 03:35 PM

I know he's had a lingering injury. There's no way he makes the big club, so I guess they just sent him down so they don't have to worry about him. When does the team usually start sending players back? Obviously they are going to keep guys who are fighting for spots for long periods of time, but when do they usually start to send players back?

I think the first cuts are usually the day after the first pre-season game.

wabwat

09-17-2006, 04:25 PM

He is 19 years old. Look I am not sold on him either and would have much rather had JJ with that pick. But these scouts have been good so I certainly trust them over you or me.

The only thing I care about is what happens when he gets to the pro game. I don't care about training camp. In a year he will become a pro and play in the AHL lets talk about it then. I want to focus more on the guys who have a chance to make this team.

you may be right.... but you DO NOT take "projects" at number 2. particularly in such a strong draft... and even moreso when you have a Jack Johnson staring you in the face... and even moreso when you have a wealth of wonderfully gifted young forwards in your system already.

TheJoeMan

09-17-2006, 05:46 PM

Alright, two days worth of stuff to share. The other day I said Bobby Ryan would have to improve every day if he has a prayer for sticking around and I'd say so ffar so good. He worked his *** off the last two days and it was a welcome site. One drill today in fact the group paired in both corners had to skate backwards anf forwards around three cones along the faceoff circles and then sprint for a puck at center ice. Ryan was able to get to the puck first all six times he did it. I believe he was head-to-head with Ryan Carter for most of them. One of them was Wirtinen and he can skate. He looked a lot better in the scrimmages too, yesterday scoring one and assisting on another. Today he was forechecking and cycling well and one particular play made a great back checking play. Still a ways to go but he's definitely getting more comfortable out there.

Everything you've heard about Ryan Shannon is true, the kid can skate and does have great skills. I want to know where was all this a year ago but who cares. He is very, very small though, like Theo Fluery small. But he has looked really good along side Mac and/or Teemu these past three days. I would be very surprised if he wasn't here by the end of camp.

Getzalf had a great scrimmage, scored a very pretty goal. The scrimmage today was pretty slobby actually. Don't know if it's fatigue or if just playing each other for the third time has them countering each others attack? Oh well, goalies looked good again. In fact, they all have been real sharp these three days. Not getting enough shots in my opinion but strong none the less.

Karl Stewart is going to make people forget about Konopka real quick. He and Shannon should be the final forwards cut. Scored an awesome back hander in the scrimmage today.

Bruno St. Jacques is definitely in my mind the front runner for the 7th d-man spot. He handles the puck very well, finishes his checks and makes good passes. He was paired up with Pronger today for drills and the scrimmage and looked good out there. I like it when Skinner goes up on the attack and the nice little plays he makes but Bruno looks more comfortable out there. O'Brien is definitely ready for NHL hockey but if we are going on whose to most talented right now it looks like St. Jacques.

Perry and Chistov haven't impressed me much in the last two days. Their stick handling skills are still there but neither one has really put forth a great effort yet. Than again they are certain about their spots on the team and are more focused on getting in game shape I guess. I imagine they will do their real training in preseason games.

Ducksforcup

09-17-2006, 05:50 PM

Randall Graves*

09-17-2006, 06:04 PM

Awesome report. Thanks man! :) I am especially happy to hear that about Stewart and Ryan.

With the way Shannon is playing right now, he has a great shot of making the team. That is awesome! :handclap:

Joey, who else really impressed you during camp? :badidea: Thanks in advance! :)
My friend has gone to a couple of the practices and JPL is looking more and more like a steal.

TheJoeMan

09-17-2006, 08:45 PM

JP has looked real good, it's nice to finally have a good left-handed (that is he catches with his right hand) goalie in the system.

Chistov23

09-17-2006, 11:40 PM

it's nice to finally have a good left-handed (that is he catches with his right hand) goalie in the system.
Why? A good goalie is a good goalie....:teach:

Duckstudd269

09-18-2006, 12:27 AM

Bobby Ryan Getzlaf

09-18-2006, 12:52 AM

lux_interior

09-18-2006, 01:58 AM

JP has looked real good, it's nice to finally have a good left-handed (that is he catches with his right hand) goalie in the system.

Why? A good goalie is a good goalie....:teach:

Yeah. Am I missing something? What's so great about having a "silly sider"?

Snap Wilson

09-18-2006, 02:07 AM

It all sounds very encouraging. Hope it's a sign of things to come.

arinkrat*

09-18-2006, 03:39 PM

What's up with Perry? Is he out of shape or hurt? It's disappointing that he hasn't done much during training camp. Penner and Getzlaf look like they've improved over the summer so hopefully Perry can start picking it up.

kenabnrmal

09-18-2006, 07:02 PM

Randall Graves*

09-18-2006, 08:53 PM

Its been a few skates, I wouldn't get too anxious just yet.
Or Perry could just be that guy who will have a sophmore slump, though I don't recall what his camp was like last year.

Spankatola Jamnuts

09-18-2006, 09:11 PM

Perry was pretty lackluster in camp last season, too. People were disappointed after the show he put on in the rookie camp.

Jerky Leclerc

09-19-2006, 01:56 AM

Other than a bit of rust, Perry should be a solid contributer. I think both Getz and Perry are ready to take the next step and form a dangerous second line for the Ducks.

Ducksforcup

09-19-2006, 02:01 AM

Really awesome picture from Getty. Officially became my backround picture. :D

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/gallery;_ylt=AiZrmO3m6hi6x1qi9n_kKpV7vLYF

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/07/full.getty-71899816cp013_los_angeles_k_1_32_52_am.jpg

ANAHEIM, CA - SEPTEMBER 18: Ratiltis Ivanans #41 of the Los Angeles Kings squares off to fight with Shawn Thornton #45 of the Anaheim Ducks during the NHL preseason game held on September 18, 2006 at Arrowhead Pond of Anaheim in Anaheim, California. The Kings defeated the Ducks 7-1. (Photo by Christian Petersen/Getty Images)

TheJoeMan

09-19-2006, 03:50 AM

Yeah. Am I missing something? What's so great about having a "silly sider"?

We lefties are only 15% of the population so I like to see us do well in our fields, especially those whom are severally dominated by righties (like hockey players). That and they generally have really good glove hands. Look at Grant Feur, best lefty goalie ever.

TheJoeMan

09-19-2006, 03:55 AM

Nice report Joe Man. I'm very glad to see that my favorite Duck, Getzlaf, is doing well. However, I do have a question for you: You said that Jacques is the front leader for the 7th spot, so are you assuming that Moran is definitely our 6th guy? Personally I'd rather see O'Brien, Skinner, or Jacques there. I don't want Moran as an every night guy.

I'm of the opinion that if a veteren is acquire, he is intended to play, at least to start the year. Most look at Moran as this years Marshall but last year's Marshall started to year as our sixth d-man but through the corse of injuries to Ozo and himself, DiPenta derailed him. Moran is a talented vet, he brings a lot more experience and leadership than O'Brien, Skinner and St. Jacques so yeah, I think he's our 6th or 5th d-man. But again, at least to start the year. Who knows what'll happen through the course of a season but my money is having Joey D and Moran as our third pairing. I mean talent wise, there's nothing more special about those three than Moran and I'd take his leadership and experience over their inevitible rookie mistakes any day.

Pepper

09-19-2006, 05:22 AM

Moran is a lot of things but talented he most certainly ain't.

Complaining Customer

09-19-2006, 11:55 PM

Hey guys, what's your impressions of Penner right now? I've seen some line projection (main board I think) putting him on 4th line... What's up with that?

(thanks)

Static

09-20-2006, 01:13 AM

Hey guys, what's your impressions of Penner right now? I've seen some line projection (main board I think) putting him on 4th line... What's up with that?

(thanks)

He wont be on the 4th line...he'll see around 15 min a game depending on ppl opportunities.

Randall Graves*

09-20-2006, 01:41 AM

I'm of the opinion that if a veteren is acquire, he is intended to play, at least to start the year. Most look at Moran as this years Marshall but last year's Marshall started to year as our sixth d-man but through the corse of injuries to Ozo and himself, DiPenta derailed him. Moran is a talented vet, he brings a lot more experience and leadership than O'Brien, Skinner and St. Jacques so yeah, I think he's our 6th or 5th d-man. But again, at least to start the year. Who knows what'll happen through the course of a season but my money is having Joey D and Moran as our third pairing. I mean talent wise, there's nothing more special about those three than Moran and I'd take his leadership and experience over their inevitible rookie mistakes any day.
O'Brien and Skinner are way more talented than Moran.

Jerky Leclerc

09-20-2006, 07:01 PM

First cuts announced.

http://www.anaheimducks.com/press/release/topstory.php?dir=200604&id=1423

ANAHEIM, Calif. ? The Anaheim Ducks announced today that the National Hockey League (NHL) club has made the following roster moves:

Assigned to Portland Pirates (AHL) Training Camp:

Ryan Carter ? Center

Trevor Gillies ? Left Wing

Shane Hynes ? Right Wing

Nathan Marsters - Goaltender

Pierre Parenteau ? Right Wing

Brian Salcido ? Defenseman

Nathan Saunders ? Defenseman

Clay Wilson ? Defenseman

Assigned to junior team:

Brett Festerling ? Vancouver (WHL)

Returned to junior team:

J.P. Levasseur ? Goaltender (Rouyn-Noranda/QMJHL)

Anaheim now has 42 players remaining on its 2006 Training Camp Roster ? 25 forwards, 12 defensemen and five goaltenders.

Randall Graves*

09-20-2006, 07:21 PM

Disappointed to see Carter and JPL sent out so fast, I was hoping JPL would get a game in before being returned to the Q.

McDonald19

09-20-2006, 08:18 PM

kenabnrmal

09-20-2006, 08:52 PM

We lefties are only 15% of the population so I like to see us do well in our fields, especially those whom are severally dominated by righties (like hockey players). That and they generally have really good glove hands. Look at Grant Feur, best lefty goalie ever.

Fuhr had a great glove...any other examples of lefties having really good glove hands, because that's a pretty odd comment.

Spankatola Jamnuts

09-21-2006, 01:25 AM

Vokoun's got a good glove. Isn't he a leftie?

TheJoeMan

09-21-2006, 01:25 AM

Fuhr had a great glove...any other examples of lefties having really good glove hands, because that's a pretty odd comment.

Well it may be an outdated theory since so many young hockey players are shooting righty nowadays whereas back in the day almost everyone shot lefty. But because of that shooters tend to shoot blocker side because it's harder to stop a puck with your blocker or elbow than it is with your glove. Now for lefties, they are catching the puck with their right hand so they get shooters to shoot glove side more often. It's a very marginal theory but if you pay attention to the Theodores, Vocouns and DiPetros of the league you'll see they have really good glove hands.

snarktacular

09-21-2006, 01:56 AM

Interesting theory, but I'd be willing to bet that in the NHL, people can snipe well enough that it shouldn't matter much which hand you catch in or which side they shoot from. This could be true for lower level hockey.

fez

09-21-2006, 02:22 AM

a little surprised that Parenteau didn't get in a pre-season game before being sent down.

the QMJHL season is already started so getting Levasseur to his team in the Q isn't a bad thing.

yea sounds like they have given up on Parenteau, guess he is labelled as a career minor leaguer now

I like the lines you guys are throwing around in the game two thread talks, especially the Chistov - Getzlaf - Perry line

Looks like R. Niedermayer and Melin are on the oustide looking in right now which is kind of scary

There isnt enough room for everbody, do you think is Shannon does make the team that they will have to trade someone? Im thinking they picked up Green soley for his faceoff proficiency and they cant trade Rob Nieds because of the brother thing.

Jerky Leclerc

09-21-2006, 02:28 AM

Shannon was paired with Marchant and Penner. Miller was paired with Getzlaf and Perry. Chistov was paired with Brent. Miller was ok and he'll benefit getting a full year in the AHL. Shannon is knocking on the door and he laid a beautiful pass to Penner for a slam dunk. Size is an issue though but isn't not like he's getting tossed around like a rag doll. He's holding is own. If Shannon makes the team, I don't know who's going to lose their job.

Static

09-21-2006, 02:34 AM

Kunitz-Mac-Selanne
Chistov-Getzlaf-Perry
Fedoruk-Pahlsson-Niedermayer
Penner-Marchant-Shannon

Nieds-Beauch
OD-Pronger
Dipenta-O'Brien

No one loses their job, Green, Moran, and Moen sit every night.

fez

09-21-2006, 05:33 AM

Kunitz-Mac-Selanne
Chistov-Getzlaf-Perry
Fedoruk-Pahlsson-Niedermayer
Penner-Marchant-Shannon

Nieds-Beauch
OD-Pronger
Dipenta-O'Brien

No one loses their job, Green, Moran, and Moen sit every night.

Seems a bit of a waste getting Green then.

Kevin Forbes

09-21-2006, 06:46 AM

Seems a bit of a waste getting Green then.

No one could have expected Shannon playing so well. It's better to have depth then to be scrambling to fill roster spots during training camp.

kenabnrmal

09-21-2006, 09:36 AM

Well it may be an outdated theory since so many young hockey players are shooting righty nowadays whereas back in the day almost everyone shot lefty. But because of that shooters tend to shoot blocker side because it's harder to stop a puck with your blocker or elbow than it is with your glove. Now for lefties, they are catching the puck with their right hand so they get shooters to shoot glove side more often. It's a very marginal theory but if you pay attention to the Theodores, Vocouns and DiPetros of the league you'll see they have really good glove hands.

Certainly there are lefties with good gloves, but I think with how intensive goalies are trained nowadays, the difference between righty's gloves and lefties' gloves is pretty negligible.

Could be wrong though.

Snap Wilson

09-21-2006, 10:23 AM

I'm happy with the quick cuts. Carlyle did the same thing last year, didn't he? Let's focus on the guys who have a shot at making the squad this year.

Shannon had an encouraging game, but I wouldn't pencil him in quite so quickly.

Spankatola Jamnuts

09-21-2006, 11:00 AM

Another year in the AHL wouldn't kill him, regardless if he could make it right now. He's still developing.

Static

09-21-2006, 12:30 PM

Another year in the AHL wouldn't kill him, regardless if he could make it right now. He's still developing.

But if he makes the team better than if Green was in the lineup it doesnt make sense to send him down. Green needs to get into a game with more of the regulars before I pass judgement about him though.

Pepper

09-21-2006, 01:19 PM

They are not fighting for the same positions.

Let Shannon play 20+ mins per night in AHL, let's see what he can do.

HockeySport

09-21-2006, 01:58 PM

They are not fighting for the same positions.

Let Shannon play 20+ mins per night in AHL, let's see what he can do.

See what he can do in the AHL?

Rookie year: 100+ points... All Rookie Team... All Star Team ... Team MVP...

TheJoeMan

09-21-2006, 02:15 PM

It wouldn't hurt to have him start the year because if he isn't hacking it, you send him back down. That's why Getz and Perry started here last year. I admit, I had no idea Shannon was as talented as he is because last camp he was gloriously unimpressive but man he's showing me something this year. I hope he keeps it up but I also hope his size doesn't become a problem because he is very, very small.

HockeySport

09-21-2006, 02:41 PM

Static

09-21-2006, 04:26 PM

13 minutes a night in the NHL is more benifitial than 20 in the AHL, but thats just me. Further more, we already have 3 checking forwards not counting Fedoruk, and Shannon is not a floater anyway from what Ive seen. The Ducks were top 3 in the NHL last year in faceoffs...what exactly does Green bring to the table that is really needed? Leadership? Hes in the lockerroom. Grit? We have that already. Faceoff experience? Why? How much bettter do we need to be in that area?

Randall Graves*

09-21-2006, 05:49 PM

They are not fighting for the same positions.

Let Shannon play 20+ mins per night in AHL, let's see what he can do.
I wouldn't cut him just to secure a spot for Travis Green..if Shannon keeps playing well he deserves a shot. I think it would be similar to Perry and Getzlaf last year, they weren't expected to make it but because they earned it they started the year in the NHL, it's good for a players confidence imo.

Randall Graves*

09-21-2006, 05:52 PM

CHRDANHUTCH

09-21-2006, 06:16 PM

See what he can do in the AHL?

Rookie year: 100+ points... All Rookie Team... All Star Team ... Team MVP...

HockeySport:

Shannon wasn't under a Ducks contract at the beginning of last year only after he showed promise did he earn the 2 yr + the balance of '05-06....

Duckstudd269

09-21-2006, 11:02 PM

If shannon continues to play like he did last game it would be wrong to send him down. Isn't the attitude in camp "if I play my best and perform, I will make the team."?

I'm not pencilling him in yet, since it's only been one game, but if he continutes to play like he did, it would unfair and stupid to send him down, especially if the reason is cause we have Travis Green. Nothing wrong with to much depth. Like the lines that I posted in the gameday thread, which are identical to Statics, Moen and Green go to the pressbox, giving us a good grinder and a good faceoff guy if needed. If that line plays that well consistently, think of the possibilities for this team.:eek:

Static

09-21-2006, 11:46 PM

Wab_killa*

09-21-2006, 11:55 PM

hey u guys know if Bobby is gonna make the team? cuz it seems like he isn't sent down yeyt according to the ducks home page

Aeryn

09-22-2006, 12:00 AM

With the way Randy was screaming at him today....I doubt it.

The next round of cuts is expected Monday PM/Tuesday AM

Duckstudd269

09-22-2006, 12:05 AM

Oops, sorry. Didnt see you post them. Great minds think alike eh? ;)

EDIT: oh, you posted them after me. Im not sorry at all then. :D

LoL nope I was first:teach: :). Their on the top of the 3rd page in the gameday thread too, but it's all good, great minds do think a like.;) It would be awesome if Shannon continues to impress, and those were the resulting lines.

Sidenote: Also is anyone else wondering why Chistov hasn't been playing with the likes of either Getzlaf, Perry, McDonald, and Selanne? I for one would like to see him there in a preseason game. Either with Getzlaf and Perry or McDonald and Selanne.

Spankatola Jamnuts

09-22-2006, 12:48 AM

hey u guys know if Bobby is gonna make the team? cuz it seems like he isn't sent down yeyt according to the ducks home page
He's not gonna make it this season.

Duckstudd, about Chistov, I remember when Burke was talking about bringing Chistov over from Russia he mentioned how Stan was a complete player now, killing penalties etc. It may be that Carlyle has him making the team as a defensive forward who can step into a scoring role in a pinch, or on the power play.

Randall Graves*

09-22-2006, 01:05 AM

LoL nope I was first:teach: :). Their on the top of the 3rd page in the gameday thread too, but it's all good, great minds do think a like.;) It would be awesome if Shannon continues to impress, and those were the resulting lines.

Sidenote: Also is anyone else wondering why Chistov hasn't been playing with the likes of either Getzlaf, Perry, McDonald, and Selanne? I for one would like to see him there in a preseason game. Either with Getzlaf and Perry or McDonald and Selanne.
Chistov did play on the #1 PP unit last night maybe he was playing with Brent and Ferguson? or Getzlaf and Perry. As the captain pointed out Burke claims he's a more complete player now..and if Burke is saying that about a Russian it probably has some merit..

Static

09-22-2006, 01:09 AM

Chistov did play on the #1 PP unit last night maybe he was playing with Brent and Ferguson? or Getzlaf and Perry. As the captain pointed out Burke claims he's a more complete player now..and if Burke is saying that about a Russian it probably has some merit..

He was playing with the rookies...

AVE MAN

09-22-2006, 03:05 PM

HockeySport

09-22-2006, 04:47 PM

HockeySport:

Shannon wasn't under a Ducks contract at the beginning of last year only after he showed promise did he earn the 2 yr + the balance of '05-06....

We know that about Shannon. What does the fact that he wasn't signed to a Ducks deal before the start of the 05-06 AHL season have to do with what he accomplished in his AHL Rookie year in Portland?

CHRDANHUTCH

09-22-2006, 08:44 PM

We know that about Shannon. What does the fact that he wasn't signed to a Ducks deal before the start of the 05-06 AHL season have to do with what he accomplished in his AHL Rookie year in Portland?

Excuse me but many Ducks fans were complaining about the same thing a year ago where were u then HockeySport, if that was the case why was Penner called up multiple times go back and check old posts because I fail to see what the above post has to do w/ your initial post.

My point is Anaheim management was in turmoil and with all the change from Disney to the Samuelis and waiting for that to be approved---the switch from Cincinnati to Portland and in effect introducing the organization to this market.

Randall Graves*

09-22-2006, 08:50 PM

Hey all:

The Ducks are obviously a early favorite to be playing for Lord Stanley's cup in '07. For that reason many Fantasy Players such as myself are looking to pluck some ducks for their fantasy teams.
You could help by predicting the lineup for the year. Powerplay combos would also be very useful.

Thanks in advance!!!
Here's what I think..

Kunitz/McDonald/Selanne
Chistov/Getzlaf/Perry
Penner/Marchant/Shannon(yes I think he'll make the team to start)
Fedoruk/Pahlsson/Niedermayer
Green Moen

Shannon is either rewarded for his camp or is the first call up, if he doesn't make the team, well I don't really know what the lines will be, you can't waste Penner on a line with Marchant and Travis Moen/Green

Complaining Customer

09-22-2006, 08:57 PM

Kunitz/McDonald/Selanne
Chistov/Getzlaf/Perry
Penner/Marchant/Shannon(yes I think he'll make the team to start)
Fedoruk/Pahlsson/Niedermayer

That would suck. I took Penner in my hockey pool because I loved him in the playoffs and thought he'd stick with Selanne.

Well anyway, that's a pretty impressive lineup you've got.

Static

09-22-2006, 09:20 PM

That would suck. I took Penner in my hockey pool because I loved him in the playoffs and thought he'd stick with Selanne.

Well anyway, that's a pretty impressive lineup you've got.

wont suck at all. In preseason and postseason last year Marchant and Penner have had great chemistry. Add in the speedy and talented Shannon and the line is pretty dangerous.

Complaining Customer

09-22-2006, 11:22 PM

wont suck at all. In preseason and postseason last year Marchant and Penner have had great chemistry. Add in the speedy and talented Shannon and the line is pretty dangerous.

Well, ok, let me rephrase that. It certainly won't suck for the Ducks, and the kid should still have a good season. But I was hoping for 50 pts out of Penner, and that won't happen on the third line.

Randall Graves*

09-22-2006, 11:41 PM

Well, ok, let me rephrase that. It certainly won't suck for the Ducks, and the kid should still have a good season. But I was hoping for 50 pts out of Penner, and that won't happen on the third line.
Things won't stay the same all year, he'll get plenty of PP time and probably time on other lines as the year goes on. Of course the line combos in pre-season could be Carlyle just not tipping his hand.

Static

09-23-2006, 12:11 AM

AVE MAN

09-23-2006, 12:14 AM

I'm looking to take Christov as a late sleeper.

Do you think he'll be playing on the top 2 units?

Will he be seeing quality PP time?

Static

09-23-2006, 12:18 AM

I'm looking to take Christov as a late sleeper.

Do you think he'll be playing on the top 2 units?

Will he be seeing quality PP time?

maybe and maybe.

TheJoeMan

09-23-2006, 05:38 AM

why wouldnt it? Ducks role all lines...

Exactly. Plus, he'll get lots of PP time too so it doesn't really matter which line he lines up on because they all get about the same even strength time.

McDonald19

09-23-2006, 01:19 PM

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-ryan23sep23,1,5185301.story?coll=la-headlines-sports

Bobby Ryan article.

AVE MAN

09-24-2006, 01:48 AM

maybe and maybe.

Great insight...thank-you!

Static

09-24-2006, 01:57 AM

Great insight...thank-you!

If I could tell the future, Id just go ahead and tell you his stats. But I cant so you will just have to take the risk, or dont.

Static

09-24-2006, 11:21 PM

So...what are the odds that Shannon makes it? It looks like there are two positions that are up for grabs, with the 6th dman being the other...who do you want to see take the spots?

Pepper

09-25-2006, 12:47 AM

Based on pre-season, I'd say Shannon is currently ahead of Chistov as well.

So Shannon and OB.

TheJoeMan

09-25-2006, 03:49 AM

Shannon makes the team if Burke wants a 23-man roster but if he goes with 22 like he did for most of last year when we were healthy than you risk losing either Moen, Green, Chistov or even Fedoruk to waivers and I don't know if he's prepared to do that. Maybe he starts the year with 23 but if Shannon doesn't hack it early in some real games, he'll get sent right back down. The kid's been earning it though, that's for sure. A completely different player than what I saw a year ago.

duckyman

09-25-2006, 06:49 PM

Based on pre-season, I'd say Shannon is currently ahead of Chistov as well.

So Shannon and OB.

I would agree but Chistov has only played on the fourth line so we haven't really seen what he can do.

Spankatola Jamnuts

09-26-2006, 03:09 AM

I would agree but Chistov has only played on the fourth line so we haven't really seen what he can do.
I think he's been given the role and minutes the coaching staff feel he deserves relative to Shannon.

Jerky Leclerc

09-26-2006, 01:59 PM

ANAHEIM, Calif. – The Anaheim Ducks announced today that the National Hockey League (NHL) club has made the following roster moves:

Assigned to Portland Pirates (AHL) Training Camp:

Colby Genoway – Right Wing

Curtis Glencross – Left Wing

Kent Huskins – Defenseman

David McKee – Goaltender

Bjorn Melin – Left Wing

Drew Miller – Left Wing

Geoff Peters – Center

Aaron Rome - Defenseman

Brett Skinner – Defenseman

Karl Stewart – Center

Michael Wall – Goaltender

Petteri Wirtanen – Center

Assigned to junior team:

Bobby Ryan – Right Wing (Owen Sound/OHL)

Returned to junior team:

Brendan Mikkelson - Defenseman (Vancouver/WHL)

Released from pro-tryout agreement

Simon Ferguson – Right Wing

Anaheim now has 27 players remaining on its 2006 Training Camp Roster – 16 forwards, eight defensemen and three goaltenders.

http://www.anaheimducks.com/press/release/article.php?dir=200609&id=1430

The team is trimmed down to 27

Jerky Leclerc

09-26-2006, 02:51 PM

Professor John Frink

09-26-2006, 04:11 PM

Depending on whether Burke wants a 22 or 23 man roster, here are the finalist for the remaining spots.

Forward:
Brent
Chistov
Moen
Shannon
Thornton

Defense:
O'brien
St Jacques

Goaltending:
Leighton

My guess, Burke will go with a 23 man roster with the 4 cuts being:
Brent, Thornton, St Jacques, and Leighton.

Its to bad politics play a role here. I would send Chistov's *** down as well because Brent has really played well. But with him coming back/contract he will get the nod over a much more deserving Brent

Static

09-26-2006, 04:32 PM

Jerky Leclerc

09-26-2006, 04:33 PM

Its to bad politics play a role here. I would send Chistov's *** down as well because Brent has really played well. But with him coming back/contract he will get the nod over a much more deserving Brent

I can't agree. Brent's career has been derailed because of so many injuries. Yes, he has done well in the pre-season games. But I rather see Brent play a full year in the AHL and play well before I give him a stall next to Selanne. Chistov OTOH hasn't performed as well but has proven himself more at the NHL level.

Professor John Frink

09-26-2006, 05:43 PM

I can't agree. Brent's career has been derailed because of so many injuries. Yes, he has done well in the pre-season games. But I rather see Brent play a full year in the AHL and play well before I give him a stall next to Selanne. Chistov OTOH hasn't performed as well but has proven himself more at the NHL level.

I never said he deserved to play 1st line minutes. But he deserves a shot based on his play. Why does Chistov deserve more? Because he play one season then tanked and ran back to Russia?

As far as Chistov proving more. What did he prove? It isn't as though he was legendary in his rookie year. He was servicable. I would argue Brent could have put up similar numbers playing in the NHL all season.

You can't punish a guy for being hurt. But you can reward a guy who has played well when it matters.

caliamad

09-26-2006, 05:45 PM

I wouldn't mind seeing Travis green cut either, but the thing is you don't want to have Shannon, Brent or Chistov on the big league club playing 10 minutes a game. They'd do much better playing 25+ minutes / game in minors and filling a spot when an injury arises.

I think Moen and Moran fit the role of healthy scratches, other than that everyone else should be playing regularly or in the minors.

McDonald19

09-26-2006, 06:02 PM

Depending on whether Burke wants a 22 or 23 man roster, here are the finalist for the remaining spots.

Forward:
Brent
Chistov
Moen
Shannon
Thornton

If you are going to put Chistov's name in there, then put Travis Green's in there. They both have 1 way contracts and they both have been unimpressive this preseason.

Duckstudd269

09-26-2006, 06:39 PM

Depending on whether Burke wants a 22 or 23 man roster, here are the finalist for the remaining spots.

Forward:
Brent
Chistov
Moen
Shannon
Thornton

Defense:
O'brien
St Jacques

Goaltending:
Leighton

My guess, Burke will go with a 23 man roster with the 4 cuts being:
Brent, Thornton, St Jacques, and Leighton.

I think you're cuts are dead on. Brent needs to dominate the AHL this year and stay injury free. I think Thorton is making the ducks think hard about deciding between him and Moen though. I wouldn't be surprised to see Moen picked up by another team, making Moran, Thorton, and Green our pressbox players.

Spankatola Jamnuts

09-26-2006, 10:18 PM

I never said he deserved to play 1st line minutes. But he deserves a shot based on his play. Why does Chistov deserve more? Because he play one season then tanked and ran back to Russia?

As far as Chistov proving more. What did he prove? It isn't as though he was legendary in his rookie year. He was servicable. I would argue Brent could have put up similar numbers playing in the NHL all season.

You can't punish a guy for being hurt. But you can reward a guy who has played well when it matters.
Playing well in the preseason is hardly "when it matters." By contrast Chistov has played will in the playoffs, the one time he went. Whatever. Chistov seems like a lost cause to me as far as his offensive upside is concerned, but I think he's fine as a role player until Brent has had time to develop a bit more.

One full, healthy, productive season in Portland will do wonders for Tim, and it's not like we need him on the team.

Kick Save

09-27-2006, 03:17 PM

The Ducks Opening-Night Roster?

Sorry about the lengthy title. Since none of the new threads seem to be earth-shattering in nature, I thought I'd add one more to that category.

According to the sidebar accompanying Dan Woods column in today's O.C. Register, "The Ducks reduced their training-camp roster to 27 players, four more than the regular-season limit . . ."

In addition to listing all the guys who were sent to Portland, returned to their respective Junior teams and released (Simon Ferguson), Wood lists six "Rookies Still in Camp", to wit, Michael Leighton, Shane O'Brien, Bruno St. Jacques, Tim Brent, Ryan Shannon and Shawn Thornton.

Barring an injury to Jiggy or Bryz or one of them being traded---both of which are real longshots---Leighton doesn't stand a prayer of making the team. I'm shocked that St. Jacques and Thornton have lasted this long. Tim Brent is also a big surprise.

I think Shannon and O'Brien have earned spots on the team. If they are the only two, then I'd say Shannon was the biggest longshot. (Many of you thought that O'Brien would make the team.)

Tim Brent has been the biggest surprise, but I just don't see where they'd fit him. He's still relatively young and I don't think there's any risk in sending him to Portland. (Of course, I didn't even think about the risk of sending Karl Stewart to Portland. Then again, Burke, didn't either.)

St. Jacques would be a shocker. Anybody think he could sneak onto the roster? Is he still here because he'd have to pass through waivers? If so, are the Ducks worried about him passing through waivers?

I don't get too excited about enforcers. I'm not opposed to fighting. I just think it's a lot less important with the new rules. Besides that, it virtually disappears when the games count (i.e., the Playoffs). That said, is there any chance that Thornton could replace one of the enforcers? Moen perhaps?

Any other reasons why either Shannon or O'Brien will not make the opening-night roster? (I'm not talking about predicting future injuries, the possibility of Thornton scoring five goals in a game, etc.)

Finally, which of the guys who appeared to have a roster spot locked up will not be on the opening night roster? Joe DiPenta?

Fire away!

TheJoeMan

09-27-2006, 03:47 PM

Jerky Leclerc

09-27-2006, 03:51 PM

Would Chistov have to pass through waivers if we send him down? I don't mind sending Moen down. I don't think he has a role other than seat filler.

Kick Save

09-27-2006, 03:53 PM

St. Jacques making the team wouldn't be a surprise for me at all. He was the only non-roster d-man in camp that has NHL experience and was the only d-man called up last year so it's not terribly far fetched to believe he could be a member of this team. It'd be a little be surprising considering OB seems to have had a better camp. I think Bruno will be a more consistent, mature player but OB appears to have a more talented upside so it's a toss up for me.

Shannon is a surprise for me considering one year ago he wasn't good enough to last more than three days last year and didn't even get a contract until a month into the AHL season. So his performance snuck up on me personally but I'm sure the Ducks brass knew he'd bring a great deal of talent and effort into his camp. Brent is definitely a surprise but I'm skeptical to see if he can stay healthy. Fact of the matter is if Burke is going with a 22-man roster, there's no spot for either of them but if he goes with a 23-man, than it looks like Shannon will be here opening night.

Did Burke say he's going with a 23-man roster? If so, I missed it. Considering the fact that (1) this team lost a lot of scoring punch with the departure of Lupul---love him or hate him, he did score a lot of goals---and (2) Shannon has played so well when teamed with Marchant and Penner, I'd be surprised if he didn't make the opening-night lineup.

BTW, for the record, I am biased. I don't know Shannon from Adam, but I love it when smaller players---particularly the unheralded ones like Shannon---defy the odds and succeed in the NHL.

TheJoeMan

09-27-2006, 04:27 PM

Did Burke say he's going with a 23-man roster? If so, I missed it. Considering the fact that (1) this team lost a lot of scoring punch with the departure of Lupul---love him or hate him, he did score a lot of goals---and (2) Shannon has played so well when teamed with Marchant and Penner, I'd be surprised if he didn't make the opening-night lineup.

BTW, for the record, I am biased. I don't know Shannon from Adam, but I love it when smaller players---particularly the unheralded ones like Shannon---defy the odds and succeed in the NHL.

Oh I love rooting for the little guys too, could be why I just purchased a Chris Kunitz jersey, so I'd definitely root for the guy if he makes the team I'm just not certain that's going to happen. If last year is any indication than he probably will but he'll also have a short leash too. If he shows he belongs and can be a regular contributor I think Burke will try to swing a trade with Chistov. It really does us no good having both Shannon and Chistov playing in the bottom six. We do need our checkers to do their jobs.

McDonald19

09-27-2006, 04:30 PM

Would Chistov have to pass through waivers if we send him down? I don't mind sending Moen down. I don't think he has a role other than seat filler.

yeah he definetly would have to.

Kick Save

09-27-2006, 05:25 PM

Oh I love rooting for the little guys too, could be why I just purchased a Chris Kunitz jersey, so I'd definitely root for the guy if he makes the team I'm just not certain that's going to happen. If last year is any indication than he probably will but he'll also have a short leash too. If he shows he belongs and can be a regular contributor I think Burke will try to swing a trade with Chistov. It really does us no good having both Shannon and Chistov playing in the bottom six. We do need our checkers to do their jobs.

I agree. I'd just rather see Shannon get the spot than Chistov. Chistov had a lot of hype and never lived up to it. If we trade him and he makes it big elsewhere, I'll be the first to admit that I was wrong.

HockeySport

09-27-2006, 05:56 PM

Shannon is a surprise for me considering one year ago he wasn't good enough to last more than three days last year and didn't even get a contract until a month into the AHL season. So his performance snuck up on me personally but I'm sure the Ducks brass knew he'd bring a great deal of talent and effort into his camp. Brent is definitely a surprise but I'm skeptical to see if he can stay healthy. Fact of the matter is if Burke is going with a 22-man roster, there's no spot for either of them but if he goes with a 23-man, than it looks like Shannon will be here opening night.

Last year, Shannon went to rookie camp and rookie tourney in SJ then back to Portland. Never set foot in "the" camp. Agree that Ducks mgmt had an idea that a 100+ point scorer in the AHL was going to be up to something...

Randall Graves*

09-27-2006, 09:58 PM

Randall Graves*

09-27-2006, 10:04 PM

Would Chistov have to pass through waivers if we send him down? I don't mind sending Moen down. I don't think he has a role other than seat filler.
Yeah but it's more likely Chistov would go back to Russia than report to Portland, Brent has only come on in what, the last 2 or 3 games? He has options, he goes down until Chistov either loses his spot or someone gets injured imo..

TheJoeMan

09-28-2006, 03:44 AM

Last year, Shannon went to rookie camp and rookie tourney in SJ then back to Portland. Never set foot in "the" camp. Agree that Ducks mgmt had an idea that a 100+ point scorer in the AHL was going to be up to something...

No, he was in camp I saw him there. I remembered being astonished at how small he was. He was there for the first day but was cut after that.

Jerky Leclerc

09-29-2006, 03:11 PM

It was reported in the OC Register I believe that Travis Green is suffering an injury like a hip flexor or something. I wonder if this is going to make Burke keep 23 roster positions.

Iceman23

09-29-2006, 07:52 PM

I agree. I'd just rather see Shannon get the spot than Chistov. Chistov had a lot of hype and never lived up to it. If we trade him and he makes it big elsewhere, I'll be the first to admit that I was wrong.

Chistov certainly lived up to the hype in the 03 playoffs. He hasn't proved a lot else, but what is there to lose by giving him one more shot. Chistov's trade value is pretty low, and putting him in the minors at 800K a season is a stupid idea (I believe his contract is a one way deal). And letting him walk for nothing is a potentially huge risk. Give him a shot and if he performs, great. If not, dump him for a bag of pucks and move on. I don't know who this Shannon character is but 86 pts in the AHL isn't that big of a deal. A little more time in the AHL won't kill Shannon.

Kick Save

09-29-2006, 08:15 PM

Chistov certainly lived up to the hype in the 03 playoffs. He hasn't proved a lot else, but what is there to lose by giving him one more shot. Chistov's trade value is pretty low, and putting him in the minors at 800K a season is a stupid idea (I believe his contract is a one way deal). And letting him walk for nothing is a potentially huge risk. Give him a shot and if he performs, great. If not, dump him for a bag of pucks and move on. I don't know who this Shannon character is but 86 pts in the AHL isn't that big of a deal. A little more time in the AHL won't kill Shannon.

I think if you had watched some of the Ducks pre-season games, you would (1) "know who this Shannon character is" and (2) understand why he makes a lot more sense than Chistov right now. Yeah, Chistov "lived up to the hype in the 03 playoffs". So did Steve Thomas.

But Chistov was downright lousy at Cincinnatti the following year and doesn't appear to hve done a whole lot to enhance his skills in Russia last year.

I agree that his trade value isn't terribly high right now, but Burke ought to be able to get something for him. How about going with the kid who deserves to make the team rather than just giving the spot to a guy with a one-way contract?