NJ/EDM/SJ trade proposal

NJ gets: M. York (Edm) & P. Marleau (SJ)
Edm gets: S. Gomez (NJ) M. Ricci (SJ) & J. Fahey (SJ)
SJ gets: A. Arohen (NJ) S. Brylin (NJ) R. Giroux (NJ) & M. Comrie (Edm)

Any thoughts?

NJ gets: M. York (Edm) & P. Marleau (SJ)
Edm gets: S. Gomez (NJ) M. Ricci (SJ) & J. Fahey (SJ)
SJ gets: A. Arohen (NJ) S. Brylin (NJ) R. Giroux (NJ) & M. Comrie (Edm)

Any thoughts?

No deal from EDM standpoint. We don't need another third-line center or a 6/7 defenseman. Change Ricci and Fahey to Stuart and a pick, and you might be closer.

That's a pretty balanced three way deal. Nothing of that magnitude will ever happen though. Trades are generally small and only a few players switch teams.

Each team gets a couple of good players in return but a deal like that is a huge longshot.

NJ gets: M. York (Edm) & P. Marleau (SJ)
Edm gets: S. Gomez (NJ) M. Ricci (SJ) & J. Fahey (SJ)
SJ gets: A. Arohen (NJ) S. Brylin (NJ) R. Giroux (NJ) & M. Comrie (Edm)

Any thoughts?


Not a chance the Devils give up their #1 Center, future goalie, Their heart and soul forward, and a spare D-man who could play on 75% of other bluelines, for York and Marleau.

Don't know how Ahonen would fit into SJ's plans.

Look at it this way:
NJ gives up a struggling center, an AHL'er, a slowly developing goaltender, and a future UFA for a star in the making and an already good #1/#2 center.

I don't think we give enough.

Gomez and Giroux = York
Ahonen, Brylin < Marleau

Prett close though

I agree. Gomez has good value, but he's not a first line center. Giroux cleared waivers at the waiver draft, Ahonen has proven nothing since he was drafted, and Brylin, while beloved in NJ, is worth little more than a third liner to other teams.

NJ gets: M. York (Edm) & P. Marleau (SJ)
Edm gets: S. Gomez (NJ) M. Ricci (SJ) & J. Fahey (SJ)
SJ gets: A. Arohen (NJ) S. Brylin (NJ) R. Giroux (NJ) & M. Comrie (Edm)

Any thoughts?

NJ
Gives: Gomez, Brylin, Ahonen, Giroux
Gets: York, Marleau

Giroux - has no value, he cleared waivers.
Ahonen - has some value, but goalie trade values are at an all-time low.
Brylin - very nice player, but worth more to the Devils than he is in a trade to another team
Gomez - good, young cheap 2nd line center

Marleau - depending on how you look at it, either a real good 2nd line center, or a lesser 1st line center. Better and worth more than Gomez
York - although somewhat overrated, I think he would be a perfect Devil. A younger, faster better Brylin.

Devils - make out like bandits

Edmonton
Gives: York & Comrie
Gets: Gomez, Ricci, & Fahey

Cavlue wise a decent move, but the problem is that Ricci is a pending UFA, and the Pilers won't be able to re-sign him. Therefore bad move for the Oilers.

San Jose
Gives: Marleau, Ricci, Fahey
Gets: Ahonen, Brylin, Giroux, & Comrie

Awful deal for the Sharks.
Comrie/Marleau is nearly a wash.

San Jose already has too many goalies, no room for Ahonen.
Giroux could have been had on waivers.
Brylin is a nice player, but on a team trying to rebuild, he doesn't make too much sense.

If San Jose is going to deal Ricci, they will wait until the trade deadline, and get a bunch of teams wanting him for a playoff run, and should get a very nice return.

NJ
Gives: Gomez, Brylin, Ahonen, Giroux
Gets: York, Marleau

Devils - make out like bandits


That's really the only way I looked at it as well. A total steal for the Devils... not really plausible.

NJ gets: M. York (Edm) & P. Marleau (SJ)
Edm gets: S. Gomez (NJ) M. Ricci (SJ) & J. Fahey (SJ)
SJ gets: A. Arohen (NJ) S. Brylin (NJ) R. Giroux (NJ) & M. Comrie (Edm)

Any thoughts?

Not the worst trade idea in the world, and Lou is rumored to have a thing for Marleau (but not in a gay way).

I love the idea of trading Arohen and Giroux, loathe the idea of giving up a huge role player like Brylin.

As for San Jose, is giving up Marleau, Ricci and Fahey for a minor league goalie, a third-line forward, a sixth defenseman (at best) and a first-line center a fair trade?

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NJ gets: M. York (Edm) & P. Marleau (SJ)
Edm gets: S. Gomez (NJ) M. Ricci (SJ) & J. Fahey (SJ)
SJ gets: A. Arohen (NJ) S. Brylin (NJ) R. Giroux (NJ) & M. Comrie (Edm)

Any thoughts?

Not a bad idea, but what about a little tweaking

NJ Gets: Marleau,Isbister & Dvorak
EDM Gets: Gomez, Stuart, & 1st from SJ
SJ Gets: Ahonen, Brylin, Giroux, Comrie, & 1st from either NJ/EDM

Whoever finishes with a better pick

Works out Like

NJ Gets: Good first line center in Marleau, a scoring winger to play with fellow czech Elias, and Isbister who is a big Power foward
Edm Gets: Younger and cheaper, with Gomer, and Stuart
SJ Gets: Comrie who is a ligit 1st line center, future # 1 goalie, a # 3 def, and Brylin

I'd much rather the Devils take their time with Mike Rupp over trading for Brad Isbister. You have to score more then 22 goals a year to get the power forward label in my mind. Isbister can rack up the penalties ok, but he's got a ways to go with regards to putting up a lot of points at the same time. Rupp could be that guy for us in time if he ever puts it all together and finds ways to overcome the inconsistencies of his game.

I agree with almost everything that was said exept for Ari Ahonen. Thanx god, Lou is smarter than you and would never trade this guy in that kind of deal. Hell if you were Lou, Marty would have been traded at 20 years old for a third round pick I guess... pfff....

The Devils are not the Flyers, because they don't throw away potential franchise goaltender like Ari Ahonen or Maxime Ouellet. This kind of things make a huge difference down on the road.

And BTW Brian Gionta will bust out one day or another, it would be a mistake to throw him in a deal like this.

I agree with almost everything that was said exept for Ari Ahonen. Thanx god, Lou is smarter than you and would never trade this guy in that kind of deal. Hell if you were Lou, Marty would have been traded at 20 years old for a third round pick I guess... pfff....

The Devils are not the Flyers, because they don't throw away potential franchise goaltender like Ari Ahonen or Maxime Ouellet. This kind of things make a huge difference down on the road.

And BTW Brian Gionta will bust out one day or another, it would be a mistake to throw him in a deal like this.
I doubt that Ahonen will ever get a chance to play in NJ. To earn a starting spot he has to unseat Brodeur who is arguably the best goaltender in hockey and he has a good 4 or 5 years left in him.

I doubt that Ahonen will ever get a chance to play in NJ. To earn a starting spot he has to unseat Brodeur who is arguably the best goaltender in hockey and he has a good 4 or 5 years left in him.

Well in 4 or 5 years Ari will start to enter his best year and could allow us to a smoth transition. As I said, fact is, if you guys were the GMs Martin Brodeur would have been traded 10 years ago for a third round pick and a UFA.

It makes me sick. We have our potential starter of the future and fans think he can be thrown just like you would throw picks in a deal.

Just plain stupid. Sorry.

Well in 4 or 5 years Ari will start to enter his best year and could allow us to a smoth transition. As I said, fact is, if you guys were the GMs Martin Brodeur would have been traded 10 years ago for a third round pick and a UFA.

It makes me sick. We have our potential starter of the future and fans think he can be thrown just like you would throw picks in a deal.

Just plain stupid. Sorry.

Brodeur if he stays healthy could play for at least another 7-8 years. Ahonen will never become the Devils #1 goalie.

Brodeur if he stays healthy could play for at least another 7-8 years. Ahonen will never become the Devils #1 goalie.

Yeay, Marty could play 157 years. We never know what will happen. Maybe he'll sign with another team (not a lot of chances but...), maybe he'll retire at 35 or 36. Ahonen would be 27 at this time, exactly like Turco at Dallas.

You can't be sure of anything but point is, trade a special player like Ahonen like this is dumb. Thanx god LL is smarter than most of the fans out there... :bow:

Brodeur if he stays healthy could play for at least another 7-8 years. Ahonen will never become the Devils #1 goalie.

You think Brodeur will play until he is 39? I don't know, Marty isn't like other goalies. He plays alot more; 70+ games plus playoffs. Eventually, it will have to catch up to him. I think he plays out his contract and then retires. I think what the Devils will do with Ahonen is keep him in Albany a few years, then let him be the backup in NJ, and then finally after Brodeur is done Ahonen can step in as the starting goalie. It will be alot like the situation in Dallas where Turco became the # 1 goalie at 27 years old. Hopefully, by the time Ahonen becomes the Devils # 1 goalie, the team is good defensively so that he can come in and have success and build his confidence(but that is too far down the line to worry about).

You think Brodeur will play until he is 39? I don't know, Marty isn't like other goalies. He plays alot more; 70+ games plus playoffs. Eventually, it will have to catch up to him. I think he plays out his contract and then retires. I think what the Devils will do with Ahonen is keep him in Albany a few years, then let him be the backup in NJ, and then finally after Brodeur is done Ahonen can step in as the starting goalie. It will be alot like the situation in Dallas where Turco became the # 1 goalie at 27 years old. Hopefully, by the time Ahonen becomes the Devils # 1 goalie, the team is good defensively so that he can come in and have success and build his confidence(but that is too far down the line to worry about).

I think Brodeur will play as long as he can. Assuming his career doesn't get cut short because of injury, consider the fact that he is steadily climbing up the ranks in the record books. Brodeur reached two milestones in the game against the Rangers on Saturday. He moved into 10th place all time in NHL wins (tied with J. Vanbiesbrouck) and 10th place all time in NHL shutouts (tied with R. Worters.) He's only 177 wins away from Roy's record and 36 shutouts away from Sawchuk's record and Brodeur's only 31 years old. Both records are well within reach, and you know it is in the back of Brodeur's mind. Brodeur isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

Also, true Brodeur consistently plays 70+ games a year, but he's never been seriously injured and usually only faces about 20 shots (if that many a game.) I think people are over estimating how much "wear and tear" Brodeur is putting on his body. Marty could take a nap in net sometimes and it would never effect the outcome of the game.