Devils Sign Justin Papineau?

http://www.nhl.com/players/search/njd.html

NHL.com has him on Devils roster.

http://www.nhl.com/players/search/njd.html (http://www.nhl.com/players/search/njd.html)

NHL.com has him on Devils roster.
In that case, we can trade Gomez now for prospects. Papineau is the real deal!

Gomez and Papineau are so close. Only about a month in age and 371 career points separate the two.

This has to be for AHL depth.

It's probably true, there have been a number of signings that showed up on NHL.com before they did anywhere else.

I wanted Papineau with our original first rounder in '98 (we got Van Ryn). I guess it's a good thing I'm not in charge :)

Gomez and Papineau are so close. Only about a month in age and 371 career points separate the two.
The way you wrote it makes it sound much worse than it really is. Papineau will be Top-5 center if he plays with Elias. I can easily see 90-100 points for him this year. And I'm high.

Gomez and Papineau are so close. Only about a month in age and 371 career points separate the two.
That's it? :sarcasm:

The way you wrote it makes it sound much worse than it really is. Papineau will be Top-5 center if he plays with Elias. I can easily see 90-100 points for him this year. And I'm high.

That much we can tell.

That much we can tell.

Dude's fast as anything. Good signing.

Man, in NHL 2004 Papineau's potential was a 96 and he'd never advance pass 67 overall.......that game was SO realistic.

Can't hurt to give him a look at camp and if not he helps Lowell I guess. :dunno:

Yeah, definitly a depth signing for the Devils...probably will spend most of his time in Lowell. He just didn't pan out with the Islanders. There was high hopes for him when we traded for him a few years ago. He had the "potential" to be a 2nd line center...but he's too soft and he seems to always drag behind the play. At least that's what I've seen of him when he was with the Isles. He'll be a good 20-30 goal scorer forLowell though...and will fill in holes on the Devils if necessary.

Can't hurt to give him a look at camp and if not he helps Lowell I guess. :dunno:

He's a ppg player in the A.

Wow. IMO thats a pretty good move by the Dev's. If, and its a big if, things work out well Paps could realize his potential and become a Marc Savard or Danny Breire type.

Wow. IMO thats a pretty good move by the Dev's. If, and its a big if, things work out well Paps could realize his potential and become a Marc Savard or Danny Breire type.

We can only hope.

We can only hope.
At least he didn't spend a single day in the NHL last year so he doesn't count against our offseason cap.

At least he didn't spend a single day in the NHL last year so he doesn't count against our offseason cap.

Im assuming he's signed to a two-way deal anyways so regardless he'd end up NOT counting against the cap, much like Rupp I bet he signed for 450,000.

and that is why the Islanders are a mess. They have a small speedy center who would fit perfect into the new rules and they don't even try him in on the roster. Another brilliant move by Lou, if Papineau happens to have a great camp then we have our 2nd line center we have needed for a while. Under the new NHL rules a player like Paps will get atleast 30-40 points in that role.

and that is why the Islanders are a mess. They have a small speedy center who would fit perfect into the new rules and they don't even try him in on the roster. Another brilliant move by Lou, if Papineau happens to have a great camp then we have our 2nd line center we have needed for a while. Under the new NHL rules a player like Paps will get atleast 30-40 points in that role.

Brylin does that too, so is it that much of an upgrade?

Im assuming he's signed to a two-way deal anyways so regardless he'd end up NOT counting against the cap, much like Rupp I bet he signed for 450,000.

Players on two-way contracts do count during the off-season. Their cap hit is based on the amount of time they spent in the NHL in the previous season.

Players on two-way contracts do count during the off-season. Their cap hit is based on the amount of time they spent in the NHL in the previous season.

Okay, thanks, Im not well versed.

Islanders fan here, Paps never really got a shot. He was great the first year we got him, he tore up the AHL and when he got called up he held his own. But the next year he had a set back for whatever reason. The Isles former beat writer Alan Hahn told me on a ferry ride to Bridgeport during the lockout that Papineau was juicing up on roids. He had to lose about 20 pounds to get back to playing wieght. Then he broke his arm.

All in all, never got a chance. He is really soft, like softer than Czerkawski, but worth a shot.

Islanders fan here, Paps never really got a shot. He was great the first year we got him, he tore up the AHL and when he got called up he held his own. But the next year he had a set back for whatever reason. The Isles former beat writer Alan Hahn told me on a ferry ride to Bridgeport during the lockout that Papineau was juicing up on roids. He had to lose about 20 pounds to get back to playing wieght. Then he broke his arm.

All in all, never got a chance. He is really soft, like softer than Czerkawski, but worth a shot.

Definitily a fair analysis of Paps. And the knock on him being softer than Czerkawski is pretty accurate.

Softer than Jerkoffski :cry:

Good move for the farm, and he's still young enough to have some potential left in him. I'm quite looking forward to see how Lowell does this coming season, as I think it will be a vast improvement from years past in Albany.

Brylin does that too, so is it that much of an upgrade?


Salary-wise it is. Though I doubt it will happen.

We can only hope.I know its a reach but sometimes players like that find themselves late, like a Savard or Briere. He's not costly so its worth a shot.

Definitily a fair analysis of Paps. And the knock on him being softer than Czerkawski is pretty accurate.

Great. :banghead:

May he provide wonderful depth and leadership...to Lowell.

and that is why the Islanders are a mess. They have a small speedy center who would fit perfect into the new rules and they don't even try him in on the roster. Another brilliant move by Lou, if Papineau happens to have a great camp then we have our 2nd line center we have needed for a while. Under the new NHL rules a player like Paps will get atleast 30-40 points in that role.

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Paps is trash. This is AHL depth if anything.

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Paps is trash. This is AHL depth if anything.Most people said the same about Straka in 95.

If he's staying in Lowell (I'm still used to saying Albany), then this is a good signing. I don't see there being a place for him on the big club this year, but he's still fairly young.

and that is why the Islanders are a mess. They have a small speedy center who would fit perfect into the new rules and they don't even try him in on the roster. Another brilliant move by Lou, if Papineau happens to have a great camp then we have our 2nd line center we have needed for a while. Under the new NHL rules a player like Paps will get atleast 30-40 points in that role.

No, it's not. He was on a one way deal last year and still didn't make the team out of camp... getting beat out particularly by Nokelainen. He then got hurt, missed the vast majority of the season.

The Islanders then wisely didn't qualify him on another one-way deal. So while Paps is a nice low-risk depth signing for the Devils, it would have been a risky one for the Isles. I wish Paps the best, but I would be shocked to see him to suddenly become a second line center.

i am suprised he just didn't sign in Europe personally, he probably can get a better payday. As for Papineau, just think of Marc Savard but not as good defensively or offensively.

Players on two-way contracts do count during the off-season. Their cap hit is based on the amount of time they spent in the NHL in the previous season.
He didn't spend any time in the NHL last year. He played 12 games in the AHL, 0 in the NHL.

Wow if he becomes the 2nd line center we might as well pencil ourselves into the draft lottery, either that or perhaps we will all have witnessed a modern day miracle. he does have 11 career NHL goals at the age of 26 and was out of the league without an NHL job last year, i would feel much more at ease with Vrana or Khomutov as our second line center, and thats not a knock on petr or ivan.

Most people said the same about Straka in 95.

Yeah, except Marty at least has smarts.

Paps is a STUPID player and that's one of the reasons he's never done anything with his career.

Hey guys! I just want to throw this out. If we get Papineau, can we all call him Pap-smear on this board?

Or would that be a Papin-NO?

Kudos!

...yawn.

i am suprised he just didn't sign in Europe personally, he probably can get a better payday. As for Papineau, just think of Marc Savard but not as good defensively or offensively.

Worse, defensively, than Savard? :eek:

Worse, defensively, than Savard? :eek:

well maybe i am overstating his defensive play, they roughly equal

The Devils organization seems to be doing everything possible to put a competitve team in Lowell.

And in my opinion it has little to do with going to a new city.

I think that there are enough prospect in Lowell that have the potential to be Devils now, that it is very important for some of the guys to get used to winning. At least a little more winning than we have seen in the past.

In the past 5 years it always seemed that all of the Devil Best prospects were not playing in the AHL (They all seemed to be in the NCAA Hale, Martin, Parise, Zajac, Tallackson...ect..) During the past 5 or so years it seemed that Albany only had 1 or 2 potential Devils at any given time. That isn't true this season. This season 13 of our top 20 and 6 of our top 10 will be in Lowell (or with NJ). I can't remember the last time when the Devils best prospects were all on the Farm at the same time like we will have next season.

I think with this many important prospect in Lowell, the Devils organization is working very hard to surround these guys with the necessary veteran leadership to further develope some of these important prospects.

Justin Papineau is just a part of that.

The Devils organization seems to be doing everything possible to put a competitve team in Lowell.

And in my opinion it has little to do with going to a new city.

I think that there are enough prospect in Lowell that have the potential to be Devils now, that it is very important for some of the guys to get used to winning. At least a little more winning than we have seen in the past.

In the past 5 years it always seemed that all of the Devil Best prospects were not playing in the AHL (They all seemed to be in the NCAA Hale, Martin, Parise, Zajac, Tallackson...ect..) During the past 5 or so years it seemed that Albany only had 1 or 2 potential Devils at any given time. That isn't true this season. This season 13 of our top 20 and 6 of our top 10 will be in Lowell (or with NJ). I can't remember the last time when the Devils best prospects were all on the Farm at the same time like we will have next season.

I think with this many important prospect in Lowell, the Devils organization is working very hard to surround these guys with the necessary veteran leadership to further develope some of these important prospects.

Justin Papineau is just a part of that.

Well said, I believe this as well. Now that they own the team they are ready to do some legit team buliding in the minors.

What I'm very interested in is who's going to coach Lowell? Will we see some experience or will they go with an unknown? There a few former NHL coach's that have scored AHL jobs this season. Has anyone heard if former Bruins coach Mike Sullivan has landed a job?

Well said, I believe this as well. Now that they own the team they are ready to do some legit team buliding in the minors.

What I'm very interested in is who's going to coach Lowell? Will we see some experience or will they go with an unknown? There a few former NHL coach's that have scored AHL jobs this season. Has anyone heard if former Bruins coach Mike Sullivan has landed a job?

I don't know what Bob Carpenter's situation is right now. He left the team at the begining of last season to be with his Father. Lowell is only about a 45+ Minute drive from Lake Winnipesaukee in New Hampshire where Bob lives.

The guy couldn't even crack the Islanders lineup...this is definitely a depth move for the AHL.

The Devils organization seems to be doing everything possible to put a competitve team in Lowell.

And in my opinion it has little to do with going to a new city.

I think that there are enough prospect in Lowell that have the potential to be Devils now, that it is very important for some of the guys to get used to winning. At least a little more winning than we have seen in the past.

In the past 5 years it always seemed that all of the Devil Best prospects were not playing in the AHL (They all seemed to be in the NCAA Hale, Martin, Parise, Zajac, Tallackson...ect..) During the past 5 or so years it seemed that Albany only had 1 or 2 potential Devils at any given time. That isn't true this season. This season 13 of our top 20 and 6 of our top 10 will be in Lowell (or with NJ). I can't remember the last time when the Devils best prospects were all on the Farm at the same time like we will have next season.

I think with this many important prospect in Lowell, the Devils organization is working very hard to surround these guys with the necessary veteran leadership to further develope some of these important prospects.

Justin Papineau is just a part of that.

I think it moreso has to do with the Devils actually owning Lowell, and investing their funds into the team. They want to put a winner on the ice so they don't lose money. (imo)

This should probably be the predition for how his season will go:

Score 10 goals in the pre-season games. Have everyone thinking he might "finally break out".

Get a few games in in the regular season against full competition and be absolutely PUTRID.

Be sent down to never be seen again unless there is a bad injury problem.




From what it's always seemed like is that he has decent talent but a two-cent head and a very weak body. Just can't compete regularly at a full on NHL level, but somehow dominates against the lesser competitive pre-season competition.

This should probably be the predition for how his season will go:

Score 10 goals in the pre-season games. Have everyone thinking he might "finally break out".

Get a few games in in the regular season against full competition and be absolutely PUTRID.

Be sent down to never be seen again unless there is a bad injury problem.




From what it's always seemed like is that he has decent talent but a two-cent head and a very weak body. Just can't compete regularly at a full on NHL level, but somehow dominates against the lesser competitive pre-season competition.

I'd rather him stay in Lowell no matter how good he does in the pre-season. I'd rather put Parise at the 2nd line center spot than him.

I'd rather him stay in Lowell no matter how good he does in the pre-season. I'd rather put Parise at the 2nd line center spot than him.

I just think it's almost bewildering how the guy can do SOOO well and impress so much during pre-season and then be a complete and total dud at the NHL level. But it does go to show you how little pre-season numbers really mean...

I just think it's almost bewildering how the guy can do SOOO well and impress so much during pre-season and then be a complete and total dud at the NHL level. But it does go to show you how little pre-season numbers really mean...

I'm just saying that if Papineu is our best option for a second line center than we are much (MUCH) better off developing our own home grown talent in Parise. I think he is much more prepared for that role now with one season under his belt.

I'm just saying that if Papineu is our best option for a second line center than we are much (MUCH) better off developing our own home grown talent in Parise. I think he is much more prepared for that role now with one season under his belt.

No no, I agree completely. I was just stating something that I kinda found fascinating with the player is all.

I wonder if Paps will do the tripple crown and end up on the Rangers one day.

Good signing. Would have liked to have seen him with the Oilers farm team if we had one.

Always liked Papineau as a prospect, too bad he hasn't developed to his potential yet.