Trade Proposal

To the Devils: Mike Comrie, Oleg Saprykin, Phil Sauve, 1st

To the Coyotes: Scott Gomez

The value isn't terrible, but we're taking on too much salary with Comrie.

The value isn't terrible, but we're taking on too much salary with Comrie.

Comrie is making 3 mil, Saprykin at 1 & change. I think Sauve is making the league minimum. Value is in the Devils favor, because of the 1st.

Comrie is making 3 mil, Saprykin at 1 & change. I think Sauve is making the league minimum. Value is in the Devils favor, because of the 1st.

Why do the move then? They would do a move to SHED salary. Not only shed a million or so.

Doesn't make sense at all.

I think if Gomez is moved it will be for only picks and prospects at this point. Maybe for a guy making ~2M or so.

You might need to remove Comrie and add in Matt Jones or someone of the sort. Maybe Hanzal.

I can't see the Devils taking on Comrie. Not only for the salary, but for the attitude problems.

Comrie is making 3 mil, Saprykin at 1 & change. I think Sauve is making the league minimum. Value is in the Devils favor, because of the 1st.

Right. I said the value was pretty good.

But we would only lose about $1.5M in salary with this move. Other moves will still have to be made.

To the Devils: Mike Comrie, Oleg Saprykin, Phil Sauve, 1st

To the Coyotes: Scott Gomez

If the Devils trade Gomez, it's to give up salary and not get more players for the same salary as he is asking for... :dunno:

At this point it would take a first rounder and a near NHL ready top prospect to pry away Gomez, without much, if any, salary coming back -- which only a few teams could handle at this point, without dumping salary in another deal. But for a team that considers itself "a player away" from making the playoffs, or making a more serious playoff run, he is an elite playmaker and easily could be the difference maker.

I also think moving him kills the Devils this season, and maybe into next, as we have no player ready to step up to that level of production, and can rightly expect Elias' numbers to plummet in the process, so I don't want any of the deals out there for Scott Gomez.

At this point it would take a first rounder and a near NHL ready top prospect to pry away Gomez...I doubt that Lou Lamoriello would make such a move with Gomez because it would hinder the Devils playoff chances too greatly. Lou Lamoriello's intention every season is to win the Stanley Cup.

I could see a good/cheap centerman coming back for Gomez, but not someone who isn't yet ready for the NHL.

I can't see the Devils taking on Comrie. Not only for the salary, but for the attitude problems.
I have to say that I'm not so sure Comrie would have an attitude problem in NJ. Now I haven't followed his career that closely but when I heard an interview with him on XM it sounded like he was too close to the team in Edmonton. His dad owned some football team or something I think and everyone in Edmonton knew who he was. That didn't seem to be his style at all, he preferred to remain anonymous. And hey, I don't think anybody would argue that you can't get much more anonymous than being a Devils player not named Brodeur.

Hiding professional athletes seems to be Lou's job!;)

Edit: I just want to make clear, I don't think this trade would happen. Now Comrie and Ballard...I could go for that.

salries dont work out at all in that trade

To the Devils: Mike Comrie, Oleg Saprykin, Phil Sauve, 1st

To the Coyotes: Scott Gomez

No way.

- Saprykin is excess baggage. Never lived up to his potential, what would make anyone want to take him?

- Sauve? No way, Lou will demand LeNeveu in any proposal that Phoenix would make for Gomez.

- Comrie comes with too much baggage, and a 3 million dollar salary. Even if it was Comrie and LeNeveu, Lou is shedding less than 2 mill. Any package will include propsects and picks.

I think it would look like this...

To NJ: Enver Lisin, David LeNeveu, 1st

To PHX: Scott Gomez

- Phoenix gets a top line center they sorely need.

- New Jersey gets the backup goaltender of now, the starter of the future in LeNeveu, a future top line two-way forward with great offensive skills in Lisin, and a 1st round pick.

Fair deal if you ask me. Phoenix wins now because they get the established top-line center. Jersey can win in it in the long run though with stellar netminding from LeNeveu, a great offensive player who doesn't slack at all defensively who would fit into Jersey's system in Lisin, and a 1st round pick to use to get more help the wings in the farm system behind Bergfors.

No way.

- Saprykin is excess baggage. Never lived up to his potential, what would make anyone want to take him?

- Sauve? No way, Lou will demand LeNeveu in any proposal that Phoenix would make for Gomez.

- Comrie comes with too much baggage, and a 3 million dollar salary. Even if it was Comrie and LeNeveu, Lou is shedding less than 2 mill. Any package will include propsects and picks.

I think it would look like this...

To NJ: Enver Lisin, David LeNeveu, 1st

To PHX: Scott Gomez

- Phoenix gets a top line center they sorely need.

- New Jersey gets the backup goaltender of now, the starter of the future in LeNeveu, a future top line two-way forward with great offensive skills in Lisin, and a 1st round pick.

Fair deal if you ask me. Phoenix wins now because they get the established top-line center. Jersey can win in it in the long run though with stellar netminding from LeNeveu, a great offensive player who doesn't slack at all defensively who would fit into Jersey's system in Lisin, and a 1st round pick to use to get more help the wings in the farm system behind Bergfors.

I don't think the Devils and Coyotes are good trading partners at all. For the Devils to trade Scott Gomez they would need a center who is cheaper and can at least put up decent second line center numbers (55ish points). If Parise was further developed, and if Brodeur was a little bit older, I would like the deal a lot more.

The Coyotes COULD be a good trading partner for the Devils if the Devils want to move Rafalski.

Jones would be a great return. + a 1st round pick or so.

I have to say that I'm not so sure Comrie would have an attitude problem in NJ. Now I haven't followed his career that closely but when I heard an interview with him on XM it sounded like he was too close to the team in Edmonton. His dad owned some football team or something I think and everyone in Edmonton knew who he was. That didn't seem to be his style at all, he preferred to remain anonymous. And hey, I don't think anybody would argue that you can't get much more anonymous than being a Devils player not named Brodeur.

Hiding professional athletes seems to be Lou's job!;)

Edit: I just want to make clear, I don't think this trade would happen. Now Comrie and Ballard...I could go for that.

Hey, just browsing through and saw this post... I'm from Edmonton, and although the Commrie family is pretty well known it is not because his dad owns a football team it is because his dad owns the uber funiture chain The Brick. But his attitude problems didn't really have anything to do with him wanting to be out of the public eye (in fact he seems to be a bit of a premadona), but his problems seem to stem moreso from his uncontrollable love for the ladies. Supposidly he and Salo's wife had an extremely close relationship that Salo found out about - which makes sence because Salo's play dropped off subtantially at around the time these rumors surfaced. Take it for what you will, but this rumor is largely acepted in Oil country.

Yeah Lou really is hand-cuffed with the new contract that Gomez recieved threw arbitration man

last summer picking up Malakhov was a huge mistake, at 3.1$ Mill for him thats a huge overpayment of what he is worth. vladmir malakhov and mogilny were both sent down to the ahl team last year with jersey, and those 2 players combined worth is somewere around 6.4 million that NJ and lou lamirello had to eat.

im not sure exactly on how it works with the new cba kinks or w/e but if some team picks up mogilny for next season 2006/07 then they only have to pay half that amount of his previous salary. I think the player might have to clear waviers first for that to happen.

on that trade proposal, if im the GM of NJ then if I do decide to trade gomez then im making sure to get back a decent Centreman that can control your 1st or 2nd line, its tough because other gms know that the devils will have to make some kind of move between now and october 5th, most likely if a deal gets made for Gomez its going to come around training camp time.

im from edmonton and knowing what happened with comries situation when he heldout for the first half of the season of the 03/04 I would never want a player like comrie on my team, I doubt you can win with him, he's soft defensively and knowing the devils style of play, even tho they have guys that can open the game up, Elias, Gionta etc. but they still will have to play sound defensive game. comrie might score you 30 goals, but most of those come at end of games the 2nd goal in a 4-2 loss, I challenge his abillity to win and his desire, i think he could have been a really good edmonton oiler for a longtime, but him and his agent decided it was a new path they wanted to go, putting a gun to the head of Kevin Lowe asking to be dealt before training camp that year... (as you can tell im not the biggest comrie supporter) sorry phoenix fans but you guys are stuck with him, he will never tap into his full talent because hes a complimentary player, hes never going to be a legit 1st line centre, he will always be a #2 for comrie sake he better have rabbit ears and listen and try and soak up every bit of information he gets from coach Wayne Gretzky, but seeing that his name commonly comes up in trade bait, its not surprising to hear some coyotes fans are jumping at the chance to get him off your team, exile him back to the east conf. :D

The Coyotes COULD be a good trading partner for the Devils if the Devils want to move Rafalski.

Jones would be a great return. + a 1st round pick or so.

I think you are right and I have had a feeling for a long time that Raffy is going to be dealt. $4.2 Mil is just too much to deal with along with Gomer's arbitration number, and all the M&M/unsigned RFAs madness.

And Lou stockpiling college and European D-men, after drafting mostly for D (along with taking a flyer on a couple of Russians who fell well below their perceived pre-draft value...) seems to indicate not only a current need, but the projection of an even bigger future need.

Matvichuk going down for the count helps the cap issue, but further weakens the depth on D.

But getting a first rounder (and being the Yotes, a GREAT 1st rounder) along with a decent, near NHL ready prospect works much easier in a Rafalski trade, rather than a Gomez trade. It would be a clear short term set-back for the Devils, but not the complete destruction losing Gomer would do to Elias and Gio's production.

And the oft rumored Leetch pick-up (you'd love that!), for around a cool mil, would at least help offset some of the offensive drop-off in losing Rafalski (who would be a clear #1 pairing guy for Phx, and at well under the currently retarded UFA prices for comparable D-men).

That might turn out more than okay for both teams.

(There, I said it, a Devils fan and I think you are correct in your assessment. Go figure...)

I don't think the Devils and Coyotes are good trading partners at all. For the Devils to trade Scott Gomez they would need a center who is cheaper and can at least put up decent second line center numbers (55ish points). If Parise was further developed, and if Brodeur was a little bit older, I would like the deal a lot more.

Comrie fits your bill, but salary issues kill that move. You only shed two million from Gomez to Comrie.

If Lou were to make the trade I proposed and bite the bullet for one year, he could call up Zajac this season, you could have Parise and Zajac down the middle, and Lisin could be up by next season. I'm not sure if Zajac is ready, but that's a hell of a return right there. The Devils would love to have Lisin, he's the perfect kind of player for their system.

I just can't see Gomez getting moved for quality prospects unless he agrees to a long term extension with his new team. With the cap, I think prospects for one year/half year Cup run rentals are going to be very rare indeed. Given Gomez's stated desire many times to test the market next year as a UFA, I think a team would have to blow him out of the water to sign him to a long term deal at this juncture.

Prediction: Gomez stays with the Devils and probably a better than 50 percent chance he re-signs with them next year as a UFA. Don't expect any home-town discount though. The Devils will have to pay full market value for him.

I just can't see Gomez getting moved.

Fixed your post ;)

The Coyotes COULD be a good trading partner for the Devils if the Devils want to move Rafalski.

Jones would be a great return. + a 1st round pick or so.

I'd do that. I'd miss BRaf, but I'd definately do that. Just have to hope Martin is ready to be a top pair d-man this year. :dunno:

Phoenix does not need a D-man. We are all set there with a solid defense so no we wouldn't be a could trade partner. We need forwards.

Then you should probably be interested in signing Viktor Kozlov.

Then you should probably be interested in signing Viktor Kozlov.

Oh, man! By the determination he showed Devil fans last season he is poised to have his break out season.

avsfan6 To the Devils: Mike Comrie, Oleg Saprykin, Phil Sauve, 1st

To the Coyotes: Scott Gomez

:shakehead