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BaysideDevilFan 08-03-2006, 04:17 PM I would like to see him play every 5 games. That works out to about 16-17 starts next year. Marty needs the rest. He will still be able to break almost every goaltender record before he retires. It also will also keep Marty in fine shape come playoff time. Thoughts?
4check22 08-03-2006, 05:03 PM I would like to see him play every 5 games. That works out to about 16-17 starts next year. Marty needs the rest. He will still be able to break almost every goaltender record before he retires. It also will also keep Marty in fine shape come playoff time. Thoughts?
Who the heck are you, Jaques Plante? Lou Lams? I know, you must be Claude Julien.
;)
By the way, I completely agree with ya. Just wanted to rattle your chain a bit. Marty has played ridiculous amounts of matches for years now, and I think it is time for him to back down a bit. BUT. It is up to Marty, his coaches, Bill Murray and Lou. I'd definitely like to see it though.
JimEIV 08-03-2006, 07:27 PM I would like to see him play every 5 games. That works out to about 16-17 starts next year. Marty needs the rest. He will still be able to break almost every goaltender record before he retires. It also will also keep Marty in fine shape come playoff time. Thoughts?
Never Happen......Brodeur will play 70 games as long as he is healthy.
David Puddy 08-03-2006, 08:12 PM Never Happen......Brodeur will play 70 games as long as he is healthy.I agree, and I would like to add that Marty knows Marty. If he wants to start 70+ games, he will start 70+ games.
Tao Jones 08-05-2006, 07:14 PM Who the heck are you, Jaques Plante? Lou Lams? I know, you must be Claude Julien.
;)
By the way, I completely agree with ya. Just wanted to rattle your chain a bit. Marty has played ridiculous amounts of matches for years now, and I think it is time for him to back down a bit. BUT. It is up to Marty, his coaches, Bill Murray and Lou. I'd definitely like to see it though.
Thought Bill Murray moved on and Lou was looking for his replacement?
edit: Phoenix Coyotes website has Clemmensen and Jordan Parise listed on their game details (Snapshots) for G (after Brodeur of course) for the American Thanksgiving Eve game, which I am trying to find ticket prices for singles (probably to early).
http://www.phoenixcoyotes.com/schedules/game_day.php?ID=795
Chariot 08-05-2006, 08:07 PM At risk of getting flamed but here it goes...
I put Marty in the TOP 3 Goalies of all time....
Objectivly it appeared to me that Marty looked tired in the Carolina series. He is still tops in the game in many ways, but as time goes on it's only natural for age to take it's toll on an athlete.
Round one with the Rangers has to be emotionally taxing. The big Rival...impressive sweep. Beating the team that gave you your harshest defeat etc. Could be the high from round one left the team flat for round 2, but it could also be that Marty was overworked. Trying to make those 30 wins...the incredible win streak down the stretch.
The Devils seem to think of the backup goalie as an afterthought. It's assumed Marty will play as much as Marty wants and he will go on forever
He averages about 73 games a year.
Perhaps he should play 1/3 less games in the season. It may hinder his win streak, but he would have more in the tank come playoffs....
Can the Devils compete without Marty playing 73 games?
jkrdevil 08-05-2006, 08:50 PM At risk of getting flamed but here it goes...
I put Marty in the TOP 3 Goalies of all time....
Objectivly it appeared to me that Marty looked tired in the Carolina series. He is still tops in the game in many ways, but as time goes on it's only natural for age to take it's toll on an athlete.
Round one with the Rangers has to be emotionally taxing. The big Rival...impressive sweep. Beating the team that gave you your harshest defeat etc. Could be the high from round one left the team flat for round 2, but it could also be that Marty was overworked. Trying to make those 30 wins...the incredible win streak down the stretch.
The Devils seem to think of the backup goalie as an afterthought. It's assumed Marty will play as much as Marty wants and he will go on forever
He averages about 73 games a year.
Perhaps he should play 1/3 less games in the season. It may hinder his win streak, but he would have more in the tank come playoffs....
Can the Devils compete without Marty playing 73 games?
Remember this year Brodeur won't play as mcuh as last year because there is no Olympics this year. I think that took a lot a lot him last year. That and having to make a comeback late in the season to make up for a horrific start the team had. I think they should his work load little by little each year as he gets older. That said I think he perfectly capable of playing a heavy workload and I think he will have more in the tank next year.
crashlanding 08-05-2006, 08:53 PM Remember this year Brodeur won't play as mcuh as last year because there is no Olympics this year. I think that took a lot a lot him last year. That and having to make a comeback late in the season to make up for a horrific start the team had. I think they should his work load little by little each year as he gets older. That said I think he perfectly capable of playing a heavy workload and I think he will have more in the tank next year.
He also started every game except for one, the Daneyko number retirement night, I believe in 2006. Hopefully the Devils will be in a more comfortable position down the stretch and we can rest him some more.
Chariot 08-05-2006, 09:55 PM Signing a 2nd goalie seems like such an after thought, so much of the Devils personality sits with Marty. It's hard to imagine another goalie playing 30 games for the Devils.
If not for the cap issues they could sign someone like Legace. He would be a great guy to take some of that work during the season, keeping Marty strong come playoffs, and should Broduer ever get injured they'd have a chance with at least a decent netminder on the bench.
flyersfan97 08-05-2006, 10:15 PM Personally, I think you should sit Marty down every time you play the Flyers. ;)
AfroThunder396 08-05-2006, 11:15 PM Personally, I think you should sit Marty down every time you play the Flyers. ;)
But then we'd have to try to beat you guys.
crashlanding 08-06-2006, 10:31 AM If not for the cap issues they could sign someone like Legace.
You could say that to 29 other teams too.
Our budget is way too tight this year to spend money on a "good" backup. Clemmensen wasn't thaaat bad, I wouldn't mind having him back. Same goes for Dunham.
Jonathan. 08-06-2006, 01:03 PM Never Happen......Brodeur will play 70 games as long as he is healthy.
Actually, I completely 100% disagree.
Any competitor is going to want to play through any kind of ailment and push themselves too far many times.
Marty did it to himself last year and just looked tired VS Carolina and was absolutely awful for some of those games.
crashlanding 08-06-2006, 01:08 PM Marty did it to himself last year and just looked tired VS Carolina and was absolutely awful for some of those games.
I disagree, he was bad in Game 1, but he played well the rest of the series. Brodeur was not the reason we lost that series. Game 2 he practically stole, game 3 we came out lazy, game 4 we won, and game 5 the whole team looked out of gas. I don't remember game 3 as well as the rest of them but in games 2, 4, and 5 Brodeur played very well.
DevilFisch 08-06-2006, 02:10 PM Marty did it to himself last year and just looked tired VS Carolina and was absolutely awful for some of those games.
Marty didn't look tired nor awful against New York and had, what, a week of rest for Carolina?
Plus, I agree with crashlanding, the entire TEAM looked awful in some of those games. Brodeur didn't lose the series, the Devils just got outplayed as a whole.
David Puddy 08-06-2006, 02:31 PM Marty did it to himself last year and just looked tired VS Carolina and was absolutely awful for some of those games.That is a ridiculous comment. Brodeur had rest going into the Carolina series after the Devils completed a First Round sweep. It was the that First Round series that saw Brodeur get no rest. He started the final 12 regular season games for the Devils, going 11-1-0, and he was incredible in the First Round of the playoffs.
JimEIV 08-06-2006, 04:00 PM I disagree, he was bad in Game 1, but he played well the rest of the series. Brodeur was not the reason we lost that series. Game 2 he practically stole, game 3 we came out lazy, game 4 we won, and game 5 the whole team looked out of gas. I don't remember game 3 as well as the rest of them but in games 2, 4, and 5 Brodeur played very well.
Right.....He was bad in game 1 after SIX DAYS REST
JerryGigantic 08-06-2006, 05:07 PM Marty didn't look tired nor awful against New York and had, what, a week of rest for Carolina?
Plus, I agree with crashlanding, the entire TEAM looked awful in some of those games. Brodeur didn't lose the series, the Devils just got outplayed as a whole.
By the best team in the playoffs, who went on the win the Cup. Carolina was better than EVERYONE down the stretch. And, oddly, Marty's worst game of the Carolina series (Game One) was after the longest rest of the season for him (besides his brief knee injury) -- so maybe he needs all that work to stay focused. Who knows, but "Marty knows Marty" is the company line, and no one is going to change that... And 70+ starts it will be.
crashlanding 08-06-2006, 05:25 PM Right.....He was bad in game 1 after SIX DAYS REST
I was agreeing with you.
I was also trying to dispel this rumor that Marty played poorly against Carolina.
JerryGigantic 08-06-2006, 06:10 PM There is a lot of agreement on that issue.
Chariot 08-06-2006, 06:41 PM Marty didn't look tired nor awful against New York and had, what, a week of rest for Carolina?
Brother, the Rangers were a GIFT in the first round. It's been rehashed a thousand times. An emotional win over your biggest rival. A BIG ONE for Broduer especially. Yes and a win is a win.
But the Rangers LIMPED into that series.
Carolina made Marty look tired. Thats' my opinion and some of it has to do with the Canes crowding his game, but that's only going to continue in the new NHL
Didn't Marty petition the NHL this summer to increase the size of his sacred space?
I suspect he will play as much as he can considering the team presently looks at the backup as an afterthought.
Every year people Bash the Devils and Broduer saying their overrated, but the Devils always ice a quality team. Eventually playing 70+ games a season is going to be taxing on 35+ Broduer come the intensity of the playoffs
Plus look at the divison now. The Devils have to now contend with The Flyers AND the Rangers, and Pittsburgh, should they land their elusive Russian, may not be far behind. The Atlantic division has become a powderkeg of intensity we should all be grateful for. We're sure to see some AWESOME hockey in '07
All the teams must pace themselves through the battle of the Atlantic.
AfroThunder396 08-06-2006, 08:19 PM I hate to admit it, but I do agree with you on one point. Marty is getting older. Wether it's this season or not, he has to start cutting back a little in the next few years. A young Marty in his prime could easily handle 70+ starts. But an aging Marty in his late 30s should, for his own health, start around 50-60 games. I mean, after all he's done for the organization, I would hate to see him become unhealthy from getting too many starts.
And besides, we need to get some young prospects in the system while Marty is still #1. Whoever the replacement will be, they will need a few years to get experience. And it wouldn't be a bad idea to have Marty mentor them for a few years.
crashlanding 08-06-2006, 08:55 PM I wouldn't mind Marty playing 65-70 instead of 70-75, BUT he hasn't shown adverse effects from playing that many games yet in his career. Even when we were bounced in the first round Marty has never been even close to the reason, he's usually been the strong point and his playoff numbers show it. He played 73 games this year, not including the Olympics, and he did not look tired against Carolina. Sure we lost, but I think that was due to such an easy win over the Rangers, crashing after a massive win streak, the heartbreaking loss in game 2, and not showing up to play in games 3 and 5.
Come to think of it, the only series I ever remember thinking "Marty looks tired" was the 2001 finals. Playing 192 games over the course of two years tired him out by games 186-192.
He will play as many as he wants to play until he starts to look like Belfour last year. He's the best player on the team and he's earned the right to pretty much have free reign.
JimEIV 08-06-2006, 10:16 PM I was agreeing with you.
I was also trying to dispel this rumor that Marty played poorly against Carolina.
I know...I was agreeing with you also. Thats why I said Right, as in agreement sorry for the confusion...
Colin Whites Eye 08-06-2006, 11:54 PM theres no way the backup goalie plays every 5 games
crashlanding 08-07-2006, 02:01 AM I know...I was agreeing with you also. Thats why I said Right, as in agreement sorry for the confusion...
Ah, I thought the ellipses implied sarcasm. No worries.
crosby_87 08-07-2006, 02:11 AM Does anyone think Jordan Parise has a chance to be the backup?
4check22 08-07-2006, 07:39 AM Does anyone think Jordan Parise has a chance to be the backup?
Absolutely. My guess is (unless Clemmer is signed) every potential Devil backup will have a two-way contract. Whoever has the best camp will get the initial job, but I wouldn't be surpised to see two or three tenders register games with the big club.
flyersfan97 08-07-2006, 11:43 PM But then we'd have to try to beat you guys.
LOL Touche
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