Jeremy Roenick

This guy is an ***hole. I just saw an interview with him after the Isles/Flyers game on Fox Sports NY and he said Philly isn't trying to emulate the Devils because "they're boring" and his team is exciting. He also went on to say that the Flyers dominated the majority of that 3-2 Devil victory 2 weeks ago at the CAA. :lol: Is he retarded or was he just drunk that night? :dunno:

Just plug some Stanley Cup rings in your ears.

The said Philly isn't trying to emulate the Devils because "they're boring" and his team is exciting. He also went on to say that the Flyers dominated the majority of that 3-2 Devil victory 2 weeks ago at the CAA.

Translation: :cry: Why can't WE ever win the cup? :cry:

Save some of that enthusiasm for the playoffs....:shakehead

This guy is an ***hole. I just saw an interview with him after the Isles/Flyers game on Fox Sports NY and he said Philly isn't trying to emulate the Devils because "they're boring" and his team is exciting. He also went on to say that the Flyers dominated the majority of that 3-2 Devil victory 2 weeks ago at the CAA. :lol: Is he retarded or was he just drunk that night? :dunno:

No way did the Flyers dominate the majority of that game. Guaranteed his comments will be posted in the Devils locker room next time the Flyers play them.

I love it when players say that kind of stuff. Its so boring now that the players all see themselves as part of the NHLPA and won't say anything bad about other players or teams. Every interview is the same now - "There a great team and really talented and we just have to go there and play our best and hopefully we come out on top". I love to see players show some (for lack of a better word) pride in their teams (ie - were the best, so your not as good) and creating some real competition between teams. Whether I agree with him or not I wish more players said stuff like Roenick.

I love it when players say that kind of stuff. Its so boring now that the players all see themselves as part of the NHLPA and won't say anything bad about other players or teams. Every interview is the same now - "There a great team and really talented and we just have to go there and play our best and hopefully we come out on top". I love to see players show some (for lack of a better word) pride in their teams (ie - were the best, so your not as good) and creating some real competition between teams. Whether I agree with him or not I wish more players said stuff like Roenick.

I think that a big part of that is the fact that nobody wants their quotes to end up posted all over the other teams locker room. Pat Burns especially is notorious for using quotes to motivate his team. He used Michael Eisner's quote in the Stanley Cup Finals, and I think he used one this year too, though I can't remember what it was.

I think that a big part of that is the fact that nobody wants their quotes to end up posted all over the other teams locker room. Pat Burns especially is notorious for using quotes to motivate his team. He used Michael Eisner's quote in the Stanley Cup Finals, and I think he used one this year too, though I can't remember what it was.

The other night against Ottawa, an unnamed Sens player deflected criticism regarding the Sens early season struggles onto the Devils saying they were struggling just the same which was a bit of a stretch right before that game.

I think that a big part of that is the fact that nobody wants their quotes to end up posted all over the other teams locker room. Pat Burns especially is notorious for using quotes to motivate his team. He used Michael Eisner's quote in the Stanley Cup Finals, and I think he used one this year too, though I can't remember what it was.


I agree with you why players aren't a little more outspoken, is that they don't want to give any more bulliten board material. I also think it's a dumb reason.

Bulletin board material is way overblown as to what kind of effect it has on players and games.

Do you honestly think the Devils were more fired up to beat the Ducks in the finals last year because of something Eisner said ??? or do you think they may have been fired up to with that big silver trophy ???

I'm not trying to single out the Devils, all teams are the same way.

If Sather or makes a dumb comment about the Flyers, that isn't why they're fired up to beat the Rangers. The team is fired up BECAUSE they're the stinkin' Rangers.



IMO the only time any bulletin board material would have any effect is if a non-rival team, ala the Calgary Flames said something about the Devils. It might make the Devils pay a little more attention to a game, that might before have just been considered "another game".

I agree with you why players aren't a little more outspoken, is that they don't want to give any more bulliten board material.
Agreed. At least with JR you know what you're getting...he's always outspoken.

Bulletin board material is way overblown as to what kind of effect it has on players and games.

Do you honestly think the Devils were more fired up to beat the Ducks in the finals last year because of something Eisner said ??? or do you think they may have been fired up to with that big silver trophy ???.
Point well taken...bulletin board material tends to fire up the fans more than anything else.
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I agree with you why players aren't a little more outspoken, is that they don't want to give any more bulliten board material. I also think it's a dumb reason.

Bulletin board material is way overblown as to what kind of effect it has on players and games.

Do you honestly think the Devils were more fired up to beat the Ducks in the finals last year because of something Eisner said ??? or do you think they may have been fired up to with that big silver trophy ???

I'm not trying to single out the Devils, all teams are the same way.

If Sather or makes a dumb comment about the Flyers, that isn't why they're fired up to beat the Rangers. The team is fired up BECAUSE they're the stinkin' Rangers.



IMO the only time any bulletin board material would have any effect is if a non-rival team, ala the Calgary Flames said something about the Devils. It might make the Devils pay a little more attention to a game, that might before have just been considered "another game".

I do think it is overblwon a little bit, but at the same time I have to say that with all the parity in the league today (check the eastern conference standings and Florida is just a couple of points behind NJ right now with 3 more games played) any single extra advantage a team can get is still an advantage nonetheless. NJ doesn't need idiotic quotes to get fired up for games against their rivals, but it sure does stir the pot a bit more and make players want to serve their opponents some healthy heapings of crow for boasting and dissing like this for attention. Why do it? Why do it and why guarantee victories like Alfredsson did in the postseason?

I do think it is overblwon a little bit, but at the same time I have to say that with all the parity in the league today (check the eastern conference standings and Florida is just a couple of points behind NJ right now with 3 more games played) any single extra advantage a team can get is still an advantage nonetheless. NJ doesn't need idiotic quotes to get fired up for games against their rivals, but it sure does stir the pot a bit more and make players want to serve their opponents some healthy heapings of crow for boasting and dissing like this for attention. Why do it? Why do it and why guarantee victories like Alfredsson did in the postseason?


The guarantee thing is a joke and has gotten way out of hand. Now everyone wants to be Namath or Messier. There should be a rule if you want to make a guaruntee.

#1. Must be during the playoffs.
#2. Player making said guarantee, had better be the dominant player on his team.
#3. If a guarntee you made fails, then don't even think about doing it again, ala Patrick Ewing who made one every year and always lost.

I just saw an interview with him after the Isles/Flyers game on Fox Sports NY and he said Philly isn't trying to emulate the Devils because "they're boring" and his team is exciting.

Dare say the contrary...
Everybody fells asleep watching a Dev game...

Dare say the contrary...
Everybody fells asleep watching a Dev game...

You must not watch many Devils game. Most are quite exciting. No, they are not 7-6 shootouts, but if you like physical play, great goaltending, heated rivalries (long list, don't wanna get into that) and nailbitingly close games, watch the Devils. If you think the only "exciting" hockey is when the score is 6-5 or something, go watch a Western Conference team.

Somebody quick get Flyman a copy of Wanye Gretzky's Nintendo 64 Hockey where he can thrill to 19-2 games over and over again and call it exciting. Everyone knows blowouts are always super fun to watch.

You must not watch many Devils game. Most are quite exciting. No, they are not 7-6 shootouts, but if you like physical play, great goaltending, heated rivalries (long list, don't wanna get into that) and nailbitingly close games, watch the Devils. If you think the only "exciting" hockey is when the score is 6-5 or something, go watch a Western Conference team.

How many ties do you have? Three
You know how many Devil fans are tired of the close games?
More proof that the Devil fans are getting tired of the close games, the attendance.

Headline from your win last night:Stanley Cup champs draw small crowds.

last night's attendance: 10,202 Some excerpts from the article on ESPN.com:

The only thing that hasn't panned out is drawing fans, which has always been the Devils' problem. The arena was half empty, but the announced crowd was 10,202. Not that many saw Brian Gionta and Jay Pandolfo also score for the Devils.

"My job is to win hockey games," Devils coach Pat Burns said. "I don't believe my job is to go out and invite the people into the games. We're winning, winning at home. I don't think I'm the one that can answer that. I don't count the people. I don't look."

Elias: "It's kind of weird, we're winning and you don't feel the atmosphere yet and we're on top (not on top of the Atlantic or East mind you)."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/teamsched?team=njd


Physical play, great goaltending, rivalry = Flyers vs. Canucks last night.
If anyone has insomnia, watch a Devils game. It will be cured right on the spot.

What I'm Seeing: "The Devils are boring :cry: :cry: :cry: Their attendance sucks because they play so boringly."

Please, Minnesota plays a more "boring" game than NJ and they've been selling out for how many games? NJ has the three problems of poor location (so close to NYC, other hockey teams nearby, many cheaper things to do than go to the hockey game), poor arena location (no rail access, have to drive to and from the games), and high ticket prices. Not the result of how they play.

I don't know about you, but if you think this team is boring on the ice, I suggest actually watching a few games. Like that exciting Flyers-Devils game a few weeks ago where the Devils owned the Flyers for much of that game.

I don't know about you, but if you think this team is boring on the ice, I suggest actually watching a few games. Like that exciting Flyers-Devils game a few weeks ago where the Devils owned the Flyers for much of that game.

Nah, I think I'll pass. I don't feel like watching tie game after tie game. Also, it's no fun watching you guys lose to teams we have blown out (actually it is fun to watch you lose but it's still boring hockey). Flyers were not OWNED in that game. They let things slip away in the middle of the second. You beat us by one goal. Every goalie has a bad game. Jeff has done fine since then and Esche has been stellar as evident in the Standings. First in the Conference, first in the division and by just beating the top team in the West last night.
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Nah, I think I'll pass. I don't feel like watching tie game after tie game. Also, it's no fun watching you guys lose to teams we have blown out (actually it is fun to watch you lose but it's still boring hockey). Flyers were not OWNED in that game. They let things slip away in the middle of the second. You beat us by one goal. Every goalie has a bad game. Jeff has done fine since then and Esche has been stellar as evident in the Standings. First in the Conference, first in the division and by just beating the top team in the West last night.
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go away....Every Nj Devils site that I go to you are the troll looking for arguments...It's the same SW FLYERS 8 on every Devils site...My God, go talk to Flyer fans....By the way, that was the dumbest argument I'v ever heard..." The Devils fans are tired of close games and that's why the attendance is poor" That one must of required some deep thought...

JR doesn't know when to keep his mouth shut, but he's fun to watch, so I guess it's a fair tradeoff.

There are plenty of reasons why the Devs don't draw well, and it has little to do with "boring hockey". I'm not going to go into all of the reasons, but everybody knows that this is a over saturated marker, and the meadowlands has no mass transit.

Oh, but the Giants and Jets draw well dont they? Of course. I bet the Devils would sell out every single game if they only played 16 a season and only games on the weekend.

Dare say the contrary...
Everybody fells asleep watching a Dev game...
Of course - it's 2am in France by the time the Devils are on...
As far as Roenick...it's funny to hear how much the Canucks fans are complaining about Philly's clutching and grabbing. Guess Vancouver hasn't quite gotten the press release that says that the Flyers play is "exciting"
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go away....Every Nj Devils site that I go to you are the troll looking for arguments...It's the same SW FLYERS 8 on every Devils site...My God, go talk to Flyer fans....By the way, that was the dumbest argument I'v ever heard..." The Devils fans are tired of close games and that's why the attendance is poor" That one must of required some deep thought...

Looks like you are the troll. I've been here a lot longer than you.
So p!ss off already. Just discussing what ESPN had on their site today.

Well, I'm thinking maybe they are starting to realize that these games aren't going to be high-scoring affairs because you get a goal and then sit on the lead or blow the lead. The Devils are skating to ties with teams like the Sabres (who we beat), Leafs (we destroyed) and your first game with FLA you were beaten. Who wants to watch boring games? Obviously not the NJD fans, otherwise you would have more than 10,000 people showing up for games.

By the way, that was the dumbest argument I'v ever heard..

BTW, who really cares what you have to say? Furthermore, it does make sense. If people like your team and enjoy watching it, why aren't they showing up? Even your players are starting to take notice that they have real no home fans to speak of.

Elias: "It's kind of weird, we're winning and you don't feel the atmosphere yet and we're on top (not on top of the Atlantic or East mind you)."

You know what? I'll stop talking about it, I'll just let ESPN and all the other media outlets bring up the attendance issue.

Guess Vancouver hasn't quite gotten the press release that says that the Flyers play is "exciting"

Hmm, maybe not, but I am guessing everyone else did:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/index
http://www.sportsline.com/nhl/gamecenter/recap/NHL_20031113_VAN@PHI
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2003/hockey/nhl/11/13/bc.hkn.canucks.flyers.ap/index.html
http://www.courierpostonline.com/news/sports/s111403b.htm

How many ties do you have? Three
You know how many Devil fans are tired of the close games?
More proof that the Devil fans are getting tired of the close games, the attendance.

Headline from your win last night:Stanley Cup champs draw small crowds.

last night's attendance: 10,202 Some excerpts from the article on ESPN.com:

The only thing that hasn't panned out is drawing fans, which has always been the Devils' problem.

What part of "which has always been the Devils' problem" are you having a hard time understanding in jumping to the knee-jerk reaction that the Devils style (which isn't a new one by any means) directly translates to more empty seats then in previous years? I saw a Bruins fan on the Hockey talk forum say the same exact misinformed nonsense just a few nights ago. Same ones who defend Joe Thornton everytime with the logic that he's still just a young kid finding his way in the league.

Looks like you are the troll. I've been here a lot longer than you.
So p!ss off already. Just discussing what ESPN had on their site today.


Aren't you the same Flyers fan posting all over Devils boards that NJ's reign of terror is over always looking to stir the pot and incite fans with nothing but negativity?

Aren't you the same Flyers fan posting all over Devils boards that NJ's reign of terror is over?


Yep, that's me. Just reign. No terror. The terror is having you guys as fans. :lol:

Where is this 6-5 hockey being played?????????? Not in Europe, Not in Juniors sure as hell not anywhere in the NHL east or west.

How many ties do you have? Three

NJ has four ties. The Flyers have three ties, and 1 OTL, which is one more OTL than the Devils have. You must be really excited.

NJ has four ties. The Flyers have three ties, and 1 OTL, which is one more OTL than the Devils have. You must be really excited.

Why is it you Devils fan always miss the point of a post?

Most of the games lately you have played (with the exception of last night) have been ties or losses. The wins you do have you barely win anyway.

Flyers ----9w-2l-3t-1otl
Devils ----8w-3l-4t-0otl

Why is it you Devils fan always miss the point of a post?

Most of the games lately you have played (with the exception of last night) have been ties or losses. The wins you do have you barely win anyway.

Flyers ----9w-2l-3t-1otl
Devils ----8w-3l-4t-0otl


How do you get "Most of the Games have been ties or losses" when the Devils are 8-3-4............Considering they are on 8 game unbeaten streak I don't think ANY have been losses lately.

Lately being the opretive word the Devils are 6-0-2 in there last eight.

Yep, that's me. Just reign. No terror. The terror is having you guys as fans. :lol:
Well first of all, you are a troll, lets just get that straight. Don't even ask why because you'll make yourself look like an idiot. Second I wouldn't be calling the Devils an insufficient team when our team has dominated against the Flyers in the win/loss category for a few years now. And sinse the Flyers play the trap too and were more boring than the Devils last year it really doesn't hold much of an arguement in my eyes. I can tell it ticks you off that the Devils are more successful.

Well first of all, you are a troll, lets just get that straight. Don't even ask why because you'll make yourself look like an idiot. Second I wouldn't be calling the Devils an insufficient team when our team has dominated against the Flyers in the win/loss category for a few years now. And sinse the Flyers play the trap too and were more boring than the Devils last year it really doesn't hold much of an arguement in my eyes. I can tell it ticks you off that the Devils are more successful.

Mission, I care thismuch about your opinion.

:lol: That gave me a good laugh. I needed that. Ask all the people that watched the Toronto-Philly series if we were "boring." And don't ask a Devil fan either. Philly plays the trap too but we keep the game interesting. We have players that actually show emotion when they play. Obviously we don't play boring hockey if we about an average of 18,500 people showing up for "boring hockey." Now, I am shorting us a few hundred people but still, if it was boring people wouldn'tshow up. That's what happening with your team and this has been going on for a while.

Let's look at your 8 wins:

2 wins over the Avs and Flyers. 1 over the Islanders (always an easy team to beat but they are fun team to play against). The other wins were against these stellar teams:

San Jose, Toronto, Carolina (that's a toughie) and Florida.
Ties: Toronto(2), Buffalo
Losses: Tampa Bay, Boston & Florida ( :handclap: )

Your tying the easy teams, barely winning against average teams and can't really beat the good ones.

And wow, the Debbies are more successful. Where has it gotten them? Parades in parking lot? Crappy arena. Low attendance. It reflects how great the NHL is doing when their so-called top team can't even draw a decent crowd to their games. The player(s) don't exactly promote a family-type atmosphere either. Woo hoo, sucess has really helped. It just shows that when you reach the Finals that your fans increase by the thousands because they are all hopping on the Devils bandwagon. I know it, most Flyer fans know it and most of the other fans around the league know it. Your "success" means nothing to me.

http://www.hfboards.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1435

:lol:

2 wins over the Avs and Flyers.

Your tying the easy teams, barely winning against average teams and can't really beat the good ones.


So basically, to you the flyers are an average team right? Wow, I'd have to say I totally agree; I mean for the last few years all philly has been is one of the Devils favorite roasting marshmellows. Hell even the Senators are getting in on the fun now.

Hitchcock crowned the Ottawa Senators the new beast of the east two rounds too soon though. :joker: Looked right past his neighbors to the north.

I'll close this and try to remember how many warnings I've got to type up. I'm thinking that I'll do up a template warning for Jersey/Philly threads because they always get out of hand.

Here are some points some people in this thread should probably write down...

1. If you don't care about somebody's opinion, don't come here. I think that we're all old enough to respect other people enough to at least listen and understand what they have to say.

2. Using the word troll is as bad as calling somebody an idiot. I was as surprised as you when I found out but I've learned not to say it. Try not to use this word.

3. No more posting about the Devils being boring in the wrong thread. There is now a sticky thread for you to post in. Anybody caught posting about how boring the Devils are outside of that thread will be put on a plane to Newark International (airfare is your responsibility), driven to the CAA (cab fare is your responsibility), placed in line to buy a ticket to a Devils game (ticket cost is your responsibility) and forced to watch the game.