Zhamnov update?

Does anybody have an update and possible return date on Zhamnov?

Nov 12th --

It's been three weeks since Alex Zhamnov (http://www.chicagoblackhawks.com/team/players.cfm?player_id=6988) had back surgery and the Hawks' captain is right on schedule. Zhamnov was expected to miss 6-8 weeks, which puts his return at the first week of December at the earliest.

http://www.chicagoblackhawks.com/team/index.cfm?cont_id=213677

Nov 12th --

It's been three weeks since Alex Zhamnov (http://www.chicagoblackhawks.com/team/players.cfm?player_id=6988) had back surgery and the Hawks' captain is right on schedule. Zhamnov was expected to miss 6-8 weeks, which puts his return at the first week of December at the earliest.

http://www.chicagoblackhawks.com/team/index.cfm?cont_id=213677

Thanks a lot!!

How's alexei's progress? Is he still going to be able to come back in early/mid dec.?

How's alexei's progress? Is he still going to be able to come back in early/mid dec.?

(as of November 24) Zhamnov has begun skating on his own at the Edge in Bensenville but he is still 3 weeks away from returning to the Blackhawks lineup, at the earliest.

Anything new, how much longer till he is back?

Sounds like he'll be joining the team any day now, with a return shortly (I'm assuming). Take it for what it's worth

http://games.espn.go.com/cgi/fhl/playernewsarchive?statsId=556

I know I keep asking but isent he supposed to be back now, or very soon, any new updates can someone let me know please, thanks!

I have him on the IR of my fantasy team, so I've been trying to see when he might be coming back. According to this TSN story (from last week), he's targetting Boxing Day for his return.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?id=64535

We'll have to see if he stays on track.

He'll be traded not before long. Hawks are trying to trade him before he gets back. Last year of his contract and the are not resigning him.

He'll be traded not before long. Hawks are trying to trade him before he gets back. Last year of his contract and the are not resigning him.

what can they get for him? I don't have a problem with him being traded, but I don't think they can get much for him

what can they get for him? I don't have a problem with him being traded, but I don't think they can get much for him

He'd be fairly valuable. Even though he cant do much more than pass, thats exactly what some teams need. He's kinda like a poor man Adam Oates (And I'd gladly take a poor man Adam Oates return from philly :p )

He'd be fairly valuable. Even though he cant do much more than pass, thats exactly what some teams need. He's kinda like a poor man Adam Oates (And I'd gladly take a poor man Adam Oates return from philly :p )

any proposals?

It's not a proposal, but I remember hearing some predictions that Zhamnov would be in Detroit before the end of the year. The prominence of Datsyuk may have made that unlikely, but you never know about Stevie Y's health.

You have to think that a team like Vancouver might step up also. They never really addressed their 2nd line centre issue, and Zhamnov is a player who brings some versatility - being able to play all special teams. The fact that his contract will expire this year will no doubt also be of interest to the Canucks.

If it were the Canucks, I'm sure names like Chubarov, Reid, Umberger or Fedorov would arise... probably with a solid pick thrown in.

It's not a proposal, but I remember hearing some predictions that Zhamnov would be in Detroit before the end of the year. The prominence of Datsyuk may have made that unlikely, but you never know about Stevie Y's health.

You have to think that a team like Vancouver might step up also. They never really addressed their 2nd line centre issue, and Zhamnov is a player who brings some versatility - being able to play all special teams. The fact that his contract will expire this year will no doubt also be of interest to the Canucks.

If it were the Canucks, I'm sure names like Chubarov, Reid, Umberger or Fedorov would arise... probably with a solid pick thrown in.

I don't see the Nucks being interested. Their biggest problem is not 2nd line passing, but 2nd line scoring. They need a sniper, not a passer. Correct me if I am wrong, but I have always thought of Zhamnov as pretty soft and one dimensional, and I dont think the Canucks would be the slightest bit interested, even if he were cheap.

I'm a big Zhamnov fan and think he's got some good value yet. He's a excellent passer and a good shooter if he'd ever shoot. I don't think he's soft either.

As for buyers, what about the Islanders? Think he'd look very nice with him centering Yashin. Maybe Parrish in return?

did you see him early this season? he shot alot, but he couldnt hit the side of a barn.

He's 'soft', but he plays a good defensive game

I always used to call him ghost. You know he's out there but it's hard to see him because he's floatimg around not really doing anything. I'd trade him for a 2nd or third rounder. He's not worth much more than that. It would be easy for anyone to pick him up as his contract at 4.5 mill is basically half paid already. And if you don't resign him you get compensated anyway.

I don't see the Nucks being interested. Their biggest problem is not 2nd line passing, but 2nd line scoring. They need a sniper, not a passer. Correct me if I am wrong, but I have always thought of Zhamnov as pretty soft and one dimensional, and I dont think the Canucks would be the slightest bit interested, even if he were cheap.

I have no particular love of Zhamnov, but I don't think he should be taken too lightly. He's a very consistent offensive player (a career 0.9ppg with nine 20G seasons), has a lot of experience playing both special teams, and has been a 50%+ faceoff man for at least the past two years.

You may be right that the Canucks aren't interested right now, but it's hardly because Zhamnov isn't a quality player.

zhamnov is the type of guy who'd be a great player...

on the second line.

quite obviously not where he's been here. However, come playoff time, i think we'll get some serious assets when it comes to trading zhamnov, provided he doesnt get injured again

I have no particular love of Zhamnov, but I don't think he should be taken too lightly. He's a very consistent offensive player (a career 0.9ppg with nine 20G seasons), has a lot of experience playing both special teams, and has been a 50%+ faceoff man for at least the past two years.

You may be right that the Canucks aren't interested right now, but it's hardly because Zhamnov isn't a quality player.

I didn't say he wasn't a quality player, just that he is a bit soft and is mainly a passer. The Canucks need a sniper. Maybe Zhamnov has more elements to his game than I was aware of...Zhamnov is a decent player but I still don't think he fits on the Canucks personally.

I didn't say he wasn't a quality player, just that he is a bit soft and is mainly a passer. The Canucks need a sniper. Maybe Zhamnov has more elements to his game than I was aware of...Zhamnov is a decent player but I still don't think he fits on the Canucks personally.

You may be right... but I'm very curious as to who the Canucks will be pursuing. Legitimate 2nd line snipers aren't an easy commodity to come by - though I suppose that someone like Peter Bondra might be a distinct possibility if Washington continues to fester. But if Bondra were up for grabs, I could see a couple of teams taking a good look.

I guess I'm almost more curious about what the Canucks would be prepared to give up to make that splash, and really give it a run this year. I may be wrong, but there might be some additional pressure in that regard given that Magnus Arvedson can not exactly be considered to have been a stellar addition at this point (in spite of having been somewhat hyped as one).

You may be right... but I'm very curious as to who the Canucks will be pursuing. Legitimate 2nd line snipers aren't an easy commodity to come by - though I suppose that someone like Peter Bondra might be a distinct possibility if Washington continues to fester. But if Bondra were up for grabs, I could see a couple of teams taking a good look.

I guess I'm almost more curious about what the Canucks would be prepared to give up to make that splash, and really give it a run this year. I may be wrong, but there might be some additional pressure in that regard given that Magnus Arvedson can not exactly be considered to have been a stellar addition at this point (in spite of having been somewhat hyped as one).

It's really hard to say because aside from the untouchables (Naslund, Bertuzzi, Jovo, Ohlund, Morrison), there aren't alot of players with high trade value that make sense to move. Sure Cooke, Allen, Salo, Sopel could be moved for that sniper we need, but they mean alot to the team and most of them are good bargains as well. All the Canucks can really offer are a couple or 2nd tier prospects (Reid, Fedorov, Umberger) or guys that are worth more to the Canucks than their trade value (Chubarov, Sopel, Linden, etc.)
Basically, the Canucks need a 2nd line sniper, but have noone available to trade for one. At least that is my opinion.

It's really hard to say because aside from the untouchables (Naslund, Bertuzzi, Jovo, Ohlund, Morrison), there aren't alot of players with high trade value that make sense to move. Sure Cooke, Allen, Salo, Sopel could be moved for that sniper we need, but they mean alot to the team and most of them are good bargains as well. All the Canucks can really offer are a couple or 2nd tier prospects (Reid, Fedorov, Umberger) or guys that are worth more to the Canucks than their trade value (Chubarov, Sopel, Linden, etc.)
Basically, the Canucks need a 2nd line sniper, but have noone available to trade for one. At least that is my opinion.

I realize this is no longer Zhamnov-related, but I think you're absolutely right. I'm not sure that the Canucks are going to be able to effectively compete with other teams for the names that are going to be surfacing around the trade deadline. Yes, they have the budget for it, but they don't appear to have much in terms of desirable disposable assets. I suppose draft picks will be the way they will try to compete - maybe even straight cash as well.

My guess is that their advantage will come in terms of having the somewhat rare capacity to bring in someone with a contract that continues into next year (i.e. not an impending UFA). It's perhaps their strongest negotiating point - that their payroll is responsible enough that it allows for (and perhaps is even banking on) this kind of late addition. What that translates into in terms of quality of return, though - especially with little substance to offer - remains to be seen.

Stay tuned, I guess... however I reiterate that the Arvedson precedent is not a good one. Burke will have to think larger than that if he's serious about bolstering his team.

I realize this is no longer Zhamnov-related, but I think you're absolutely right. I'm not sure that the Canucks are going to be able to effectively compete with other teams for the names that are going to be surfacing around the trade deadline. Yes, they have the budget for it, but they don't appear to have much in terms of desirable disposable assets. I suppose draft picks will be the way they will try to compete - maybe even straight cash as well.

My guess is that their advantage will come in terms of having the somewhat rare capacity to bring in someone with a contract that continues into next year (i.e. not an impending UFA). It's perhaps their strongest negotiating point - that their payroll is responsible enough that it allows for (and perhaps is even banking on) this kind of late addition. What that translates into in terms of quality of return, though - especially with little substance to offer - remains to be seen.

Stay tuned, I guess... however I reiterate that the Arvedson precedent is not a good one. Burke will have to think larger than that if he's serious about bolstering his team.

Very, very well put, I agree completely. You are right that Burke needs to think bigger than an Arvedson type addition, however I personally don't think he will. If this Canucks team is to go far into the playoffs, they will need a few things to happen all at the same time. These include great team cohesiveness, excellent goaltending, secondary scoring, and of course luck. Other teams such as the Avs for example have more talent and can win even if there are a few minor holes in their game.
Sorry for straying from the title of this thread, did it without realizing :)

Good god, injured again, anyone know anymore details on the injury?