[WC] Final : Italy vs France -> Italy wins the WC!

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Evilo
07-08-2006, 01:34 PM
8 PM local time

Italy 1-1 France (5-4 on penalties)

MacHabs93
07-08-2006, 02:07 PM
1-0 Italy.

Please god :bow: :D :bow:

Hopefully we see a good game that doesn't go to PK.

hifk88
07-08-2006, 02:25 PM
2-1 France.

Totti 52
Henry 85
Zidane 105

VilleS
07-08-2006, 02:27 PM
1-0 to France. Hopefully Zidane.

rangers
07-08-2006, 03:10 PM
Its on at 8 pm, not 9.

Hopefully Italy will take care of buisness and bring home a deserved win. I`m not sure I can take more of this Zidane praising if France go on and win. One good game against Brazil and pretty much ***** in the other games. Hell, France played their best without him against Togo and still he is mobbed an MVP candidate. All they talk about is Zidane left and Zidane right. The true MVP on France is Vieira. Why can`t people open their eyes?

MacHabs93
07-08-2006, 03:18 PM
2-1 France.

Totti 52
Henry 85
Zidane 105

The names are different, but the time of the goals as well as the sequence in which they were scored bring back very bad memories. :madfire:

top_gun36
07-08-2006, 03:47 PM
The names are different, but the time of the goals as well as the sequence in which they were scored bring back very bad memories. :madfire:

lol...some things never change


Azzurri! Azzurri! Azzurri!

Suiteness
07-08-2006, 03:49 PM
Its on at 8 pm, not 9.

Hopefully Italy will take care of buisness and bring home a deserved win. I`m not sure I can take more of this Zidane praising if France go on and win. One good game against Brazil and pretty much ***** in the other games. Hell, France played their best without him against Togo and still he is mobbed an MVP candidate. All they talk about is Zidane left and Zidane right. The true MVP on France is Vieira. Why can`t people open their eyes?

:clap:

Thank God, for a minute I thought I was the only one on the planet who had noticed this. I fell out of my chair when I read he was shortlisted as the MVP of the tournament. For one freakin' game. I guess the football is such shyte this year that they need some kind of storyline to get the people interested.

If it wasn't for Vieira, France does not make it past the group stages or Spain for that matter. He's their MVP.

DevilFisch
07-08-2006, 05:38 PM
Portugal lost, let's hope the other relatively classless team playing also loses!

Time for Henry to shine and Barthez to make some ugly saves, I suppose. Time to ruin Buffon's shutout streak, too.

It should be a good game. I hope.

The_Human_Atombomb
07-08-2006, 05:43 PM
Hopefully Italy will take care of buisness and bring home a deserved win. I`m not sure I can take more of this Zidane praising if France go on and win. One good game against Brazil and pretty much ***** in the other games. Hell, France played their best without him against Togo and still he is mobbed an MVP candidate. All they talk about is Zidane left and Zidane right. The true MVP on France is Vieira. Why can`t people open their eyes?

WORD

But I'm still rooting for France to win this one.

ATG
07-08-2006, 07:00 PM
Azzuri fans are way to arrogant for my liking, god forbid they win the world cup. Some more play acting by Henry should do the trick.

2-0 France, with Scarface scoring a beauty

Regency
07-08-2006, 07:08 PM
Azzuri fans are way to arrogant for my liking, god forbid they win the world cup. Some more play acting by Henry should do the trick.

2-0 France, with Scarface scoring a beauty

God forbid, the world would end right? :shakehead

Alchemy
07-08-2006, 08:36 PM
3-0 France

Zidane scores 2
Henry scores 1

ATG
07-08-2006, 08:56 PM
God forbid, the world would end right? :shakehead

:biglaugh: Some of you guys are alright but I had three specific individuals call me and laugh the heads off at France beating us. Im sorry but that makes it very hard to be unbias

lightningsabres
07-08-2006, 09:00 PM
Come on France!

Scoogs
07-08-2006, 10:17 PM
Forzza Azzurri.. I'm shaking...

Please God, give us this one. Time for revenge, Les Bleus.

Scoogs
07-08-2006, 11:16 PM
Gotta love those silly *** Canadian analysts on TSN/Sportsnet..

The Golden SHOE. :biglaugh:

Bubbles
07-08-2006, 11:25 PM
Gotta love those silly *** Canadian analysts on TSN/Sportsnet..

The Golden SHOE. :biglaugh:

They've done a good job, except Dick Howard, who just tries to sound cool by pronouncing words in their languages. (Azzurri with an Italian accent, Les Bleus with a French accent) Otherwise, he has no real insight except for saying "1 on 1" situations.

ATG
07-08-2006, 11:26 PM
The way I see it end:

5 minutes left in OT, Vieira takes the ball away from Totti with a magnificient tackle, Sagnol picks up the loose ball and plays it long to Zidane who mesmerizes a couple of Italians before putting the ball right on Ribéry's path who puts it past Buffon with a perfect strike from just outside the box.

I know, I know, far-fetched...

I would think that scenario isn't far feteched at all. Scarface should give the Italian defence fits especially Grosso. Materazzi does some dumb things so Henry should attack him primarily

vitogor
07-09-2006, 12:02 AM
I am really split as to who I want to win. On one hand, I could never imagine cheering for Azzuri, they were always way on the bottom of my list. But the play of Cannavaro, Pirlo, and Buffon sort of makes me cheer for them. Then there's Lippi, who I think is the coach of the World Cup win or lose, along with Klinsmann. I don't know what it is, maybe their charisma? :dunno: And I've always kinda liked the French as well, so I guess I'm just hoping for a good game. Regardless of who wins, Ukraine will be trying to qualify for Euro-08 against both the WC champion and the runner-up :shakehead

takharov
07-09-2006, 02:09 AM
Forza Azzurri. Italy this time hopefully. They deserved to win Euro 2000 after controlling that game.But on a unhappy note though Zizou has only picked up his form in the QF it will be sad to see him as it was Figo exit the world stage.

Evilo
07-09-2006, 03:13 AM
Whatever happens, I just want to thank this generation of players.

Euro 96 : Semi final, lost in the shootout.
WC98 : Win
Euro 00 : Win
WC 02 : crash
EC 04 : Quarter final, losing 1-0 to the champs.
WC 06 : final or win.

:bow:

takharov
07-09-2006, 06:32 AM
Simulated on PES5 25 mins each half level 4:Hauptstadion Berlin Rainy

Italy 2-1 France (aet) Toni 37, Zambrotta 112 : Wiltord 84

:)

Westlander
07-09-2006, 08:09 AM
It could go either way, but I think the French might get eventually worn down, so 2-1 Italy.

Belgian Fan
07-09-2006, 08:15 AM
No analysis from me, just saying I'll be supporting the Italians tonight, me and my friends will even take an Italian flag to Antwerp, hehe.

Oh and Helicecopter I can confirm that Tom Barman was vocally supporting the Italians against Germany (he was in the same bar as myself), I bet he'll be supporting the Italians again tonight. The man's got good football taste :yo:



Nothing too much against the French but they're too close and I understand the language which means I don't want them to win so I won't have to listen to the French brag about it for years again :)

NyQuil
07-09-2006, 09:21 AM
France really hasn't been that consistently impressive (basically one really good match vs. Brazil) but I have to root for them over Italy.

Steve L*
07-09-2006, 09:21 AM
It will be 0-0 and the Italians will lose on penalties with Totti blazing one over the bar.

Evilo
07-09-2006, 09:47 AM
France really hasn't been that consistently impressive (basically one really good match vs. Brazil) but I have to root for them over Italy.
Add Spain.

Feenom
07-09-2006, 09:52 AM
They've done a good job, except Dick Howard, who just tries to sound cool by pronouncing words in their languages. (Azzurri with an Italian accent, Les Bleus with a French accent) Otherwise, he has no real insight except for saying "1 on 1" situations.


LOL, it's " 1 v 1" situations that he keeps harping on. Anyways, with Buffon and Canavarro back ther I see a win for Italy.

ITA 2 FRA 0 (France may score 1 goal)

Isn't Buffon setting a record for clean sheets in this WC?

rangers
07-09-2006, 10:33 AM
Add Spain.

Please don`t

jfont
07-09-2006, 10:35 AM
I think Italy is playing so well that I pick them to win this one...though destiny seems to favor the french. should make a very interesting game.


too bad the US sucked this year...*sigh*

Evilo
07-09-2006, 10:37 AM
Please don`t
Why?
France was very very impressive against Spain, like it or not.

ATG
07-09-2006, 11:15 AM
Henry will score for France....book it. Im going for the Les Bleus :clap:

DevilFisch
07-09-2006, 11:34 AM
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand we got ourselves a World Cup Final! Kick start the music-by-U2 montage! Italy! France! Highlights! Hugs! Smiles! Presented by Adidas! Everything will be changed!

Anyone chatting this up live?

ATG
07-09-2006, 11:44 AM
:confused: I don't see why so many think that Italy has the advantage over France in this game. Besides GK whre does Italy have the advantage?. France has a better forward in Henry, midfield in my opinion goes to the French as well, defence is about even as both have great defenders(Cannavaro,Zambrotta vs Thuram and Gallas). I think the weak spots are Matterazzi and Abidal on the defence. Materazzi makes alot if mistakes if pressured and Abidal just looked nervous during the semi final and nearly cost France with some blunders(See Figo ball)

DevilFisch
07-09-2006, 11:54 AM
OK, I posted too soon. I thought we'd actually be starting at 1:30 PM, EST. In the meantime, national anthems!

ATG
07-09-2006, 11:57 AM
Zidane's face is the face of determination, he looked so focused . Come On France :handclap:

go kim johnsson 514
07-09-2006, 12:00 PM
That ball looks pretty nice

VilleS
07-09-2006, 12:01 PM
Henry down..looking bad

The Mars Volchenkov
07-09-2006, 12:01 PM
Henry down. He looks out of it.

ATG
07-09-2006, 12:02 PM
Henry down..looking bad

The game just got real, Henry staring down Cannavaro. Accidental elbow? your opinion guys?

DevilFisch
07-09-2006, 12:03 PM
Henry runs into Cannavaro blindly and falls right down. He seems to be pretty out of it. What an unfortunate start. He's up, but they are checking his eyes; perhaps he sustained a concussion?

I think it was an accident. No intentions. Maybe Henry will see the physio for a bit and come back on? Well, yes. He's back on, now.

VilleS
07-09-2006, 12:04 PM
I think Cannavaro did nothing wrong there. Henry just ran straight at him.

ATG
07-09-2006, 12:05 PM
Very physical so far. Zambrotta with a yellow

DevilFisch
07-09-2006, 12:05 PM
Zambrotta gets yellow carded for taking out #4 on France (can't ID him, sorry). A foul, perhaps; but it looked like he couldn't stop.

PENALTY!!!!!

UPDATE: Ohhhhhh, what a DIVE! Didn't even touch him. Zidane is up and....HE HITS THE CROSSBAR! NO! IT COUNTS!

1-0 France! This game is not beautiful...it is...odd.

VilleS
07-09-2006, 12:05 PM
penalty for France.

Telecaster Fanatic
07-09-2006, 12:05 PM
Penalty for France!

VilleS
07-09-2006, 12:06 PM
Zidane scores. Nice shot :clap:

jaydub
07-09-2006, 12:07 PM
PK goal on a dive.

"The beautiful game" ? :biglaugh:

FearTheFlyers
07-09-2006, 12:08 PM
Disgraceful dive by Malouda.

What a farce.

ATG
07-09-2006, 12:08 PM
Zizou :clap: :clap: brilliance. It was a dive but now the Italians can stick for laughing at us

Johannes Climacus
07-09-2006, 12:08 PM
Great shot by Zidane, but I hope this doesn't decide the game. That was pretty much a blatant dive by Malouda. You can tell on the replay.

Modo
07-09-2006, 12:09 PM
Pathetic. Second game in a row France dives in the box and Zidane converts.

Suiteness
07-09-2006, 12:09 PM
Game over.

Exactly the way I called it, first team to 'earn' a penalty with a dive wins the cup.

VilleS
07-09-2006, 12:09 PM
Zidane truly one of the all time greats

DevilFisch
07-09-2006, 12:10 PM
Materazzi flicks it towards the goal, fortunately it goes wide.

Unfortunately, this is a France corner kick. Fortunately for Italy, it also misses. Unfortunately, Italy is still down 1-0.

ATG
07-09-2006, 12:10 PM
:confused: I don't see why so many think that Italy has the advantage over France in this game. Besides GK whre does Italy have the advantage?. France has a better forward in Henry, midfield in my opinion goes to the French as well, defence is about even as both have great defenders(Cannavaro,Zambrotta vs Thuram and Gallas). I think the weak spots are Matterazzi and Abidal on the defence. Materazzi makes alot if mistakes if pressured and Abidal just looked nervous during the semi final and nearly cost France with some blunders(See Figo ball)


It was a dive but guess who commited the foul according to the ref ;)

FearTheFlyers
07-09-2006, 12:10 PM
If France goes on to win , I will lose all respect for them they way they have been winning games.

takharov
07-09-2006, 12:11 PM
Zizou :clap: :clap: brilliance. It was a dive but now the Italians can stick for laughing at us

ATG are you serious ? Well coming from a Portugual perspective. An absolute disgrace. As GagenOwn You what a disgusting farce.

Cheats never prosper.What a hollow proverb.:shakehead

go kim johnsson 514
07-09-2006, 12:12 PM
I wouldn't call the dive "disgraceful". The Italian kicked him. In the thigh. Even though he barely touched him, it shouldn't have been a PK, I don't think, but it's part of the game, as long as it's not over the top.

DevilFisch
07-09-2006, 12:12 PM
Sangol steps over the ball and runs his knee right into Italy's #3 (sorry can't ID him, I don't know every team's roster). Sangol gets a yellow card, which is clearly justified.

ATG
07-09-2006, 12:12 PM
Pathetic. Second game in a row France dives in the box and Zidane converts.

Well at least someone agrees with me ;)

ATG
07-09-2006, 12:13 PM
Sangol steps over the ball and runs his knee right into Italy's #3 (sorry can't ID him, I don't know every team's roster). Sangol gets a yellow card, which is clearly justified.

Grosso

Bloggins
07-09-2006, 12:13 PM
Nonetheless, Zidane is the man.:D

Nihilism
07-09-2006, 12:13 PM
Didn't Italy beat Australia on a dive? Oh the hypocracy.

Would be shocked if Italy doesn't get a penalty before half time

ATG
07-09-2006, 12:15 PM
ATG are you serious ? Well coming from a Portugual perspective. An absolute disgrace. As GagenOwn You what a disgusting farce.

Cheats never prosper.What a hollow proverb.:shakehead

Sorry man, but I had Italian neighbours here in TO luaghing at me when we lost saying that Portugal was a second class footballing nation and that the Azzuri wouldn't allow France to do anything. I don't condone the dive but perhaps Italy supporters can now feel what we feel. But the claps were for Zizou scoring in his last game

DevilFisch
07-09-2006, 12:16 PM
Thank you AtG. BTW, Pirlo still looks like he should be in a 70s rock band. Also, Italy is 0-4-2 in their last 6 games against France.

Steve L*
07-09-2006, 12:16 PM
How fitting it would be if this game was won on a dive.

FWIW, Blatter admitted he used to dive when he played in the amateur leagues. Its hardly surprising he does nothing about it when he was a cheat himself.

ATG
07-09-2006, 12:16 PM
Didn't Italy beat Australia on a dive? Oh the hypocracy.

Would be shocked if Italy doesn't get a penalty before half time

+1

ATG
07-09-2006, 12:18 PM
Im going to like to read Evilo's commentating on the first half and his take on the penalty

Telecaster Fanatic
07-09-2006, 12:19 PM
Very nice goal, 1-1.

Jussi
07-09-2006, 12:19 PM
tie game

VilleS
07-09-2006, 12:19 PM
Materazzi of all people :handclap:

ATG
07-09-2006, 12:19 PM
lol Materazzi who would think

DevilFisch
07-09-2006, 12:19 PM
And we got an equalizer!!!

Set pices DO matter! What a BIG header by Materazzi! Sorry if I blew the spelling of his name!

Now, let us hope there is no "make up" penalty to decide this game.

Steve L*
07-09-2006, 12:20 PM
Oh dear Barthez, he looked like the Portuguese goalie yesterday, that went straight in the middle of the goal.

Freudian
07-09-2006, 12:20 PM
Materazzi mixes great things with stupid (and brutal) things at a frequency that is unequalled.

Modo
07-09-2006, 12:20 PM
Equalizer!!!

takharov
07-09-2006, 12:21 PM
Should be Italy 1-0 . Nice goal from the much maligned Materazzi. ;)

evilo your comments on Barthez would be much appreciated ! Hes no Peter Shilton.

FearTheFlyers
07-09-2006, 12:22 PM
Good, as someone who started this game half cheering for France, I was pumped when Italy scored.

DevilFisch
07-09-2006, 12:23 PM
You know what looks stupid in giant crowds? Flares.

Anyway, we got a game. Let's see how France responds.

ATG
07-09-2006, 12:23 PM
What did Henry do to Zambrotta there for him to fall down :confused:

ATG
07-09-2006, 12:24 PM
Dives all over the place, stay on your feet Zizou and the rest

Steve L*
07-09-2006, 12:25 PM
Dives all over the place, stay on your feet Zizou and the rest

Oh the irony.

Steve L*
07-09-2006, 12:26 PM
You know what looks stupid in giant crowds? Flares.
I dont see why you should insult peoples fashion sense.

ATG
07-09-2006, 12:26 PM
Oh the irony.

It is, dives all over the place with the Portuguese no where to be seen or blamed ;)

DevilFisch
07-09-2006, 12:27 PM
Steve: I meant those things you light up and emit smoke. Oh, can we avoid the Portugal/England whining? Both teams aren't here. Let us focus on the game.

Another corner kick for Italy, their third of the game.

ATG
07-09-2006, 12:27 PM
I dont see why you should insult peoples fashion sense.

Fashion :confused: , Italians with flares= trouble. If they had lost the game 1-0 they would pour on the field

Suiteness
07-09-2006, 12:28 PM
It seems France's game plan is to hit the deck whenever near the box. Zidane and Ribéry are diving all over the place.

ATG
07-09-2006, 12:28 PM
Steve: I meant those things you light up and emit smoke. Oh, can we avoid the Portugal/England whining? Both teams aren't here. Let us focus on the game.

Another corner kick for Italy, their third of the game.

Fair enough, I wasn't complaining about anything just that there have been plenty of dives

Steve L*
07-09-2006, 12:28 PM
Steve: I meant those things you light up and emit smoke.
I know what you meant, it was just a little joke.

Modo
07-09-2006, 12:29 PM
It seems France's game plan is to hit the deck whenever near the box. Zidane and Ribéry are diving all over the place.

Yeah, I've noticed that about France...they're not EXCESSIVE divers, but whenever they do dive, they sure as hell make it count; i.e. in the box ensuring a penalty kick.

VilleS
07-09-2006, 12:29 PM
What's wrong with flares? I dont mind them.

takharov
07-09-2006, 12:30 PM
Deja vu.Materazzi nearly nearly scores a miraculous second from an identical corner kick.

ATG
07-09-2006, 12:30 PM
What's wrong with flares? I dont mind them.

When ya throw them and hit goalies ;)

Steve L*
07-09-2006, 12:30 PM
Fashion :confused: , Italians with flares= trouble. If they had lost the game 1-0 they would pour on the field
Flares = trousers In Wales, someone let one of those go and it killed someone the other side of the stadium. You dont seem them in England but theyre at lots of Euro games.

ATG
07-09-2006, 12:32 PM
Flares = trousers In Wales, someone let one of those go and it killed someone the other side of the stadium. You dont seem them in England but theyre at lots of Euro games.


:biglaugh: Oh ic

ATG
07-09-2006, 12:33 PM
:confused: Perrota?

ATG
07-09-2006, 12:35 PM
Italy is owning France on corners it could be 3-1 right now

takharov
07-09-2006, 12:37 PM
It seems Italys plan to score is by corner kicks.So unlucky.

Jussi
07-09-2006, 12:40 PM
Well, finally the French had something beautiful on display. :naughty:

Steve L*
07-09-2006, 12:44 PM
Well, finally the French had something beautiful on display. :naughty:
I wonder if she goes down as quick as the French team? :bow:

ATG
07-09-2006, 12:44 PM
Well, finally the French had something beautiful on display. :naughty:

Anyone see Zidane looking at the ref when falling :biglaugh: , anyway ya I'll take that blonde chick ;) . One thing ATG won't miss about the World Cup: Ribery's facial features

vitogor
07-09-2006, 12:46 PM
It is, dives all over the place with the Portuguese no where to be seen or blamed ;)

Your cause is a lost one, just be a man and give it up, you are only making it worse.

ATG
07-09-2006, 12:47 PM
Your cause is a lost one, just be a man and give it up, you are only making it worse.

I didn't bring it up Steve L did

Jussi
07-09-2006, 12:47 PM
I wonder if she goes down as quick as the French team? :bow:

:groucho:

Suiteness
07-09-2006, 12:48 PM
Anyone see Zidane looking at the ref when falling :biglaugh:

Yup, I call that one the Ronaldo, diving while eyeing the Ref to make sure he sees it.

ATG
07-09-2006, 12:49 PM
Anyone else see the idiocy in having Damien Duff in a WC commercial when his country isn't even playing in it?

ATG
07-09-2006, 12:50 PM
Yup, I call that one the Ronaldo, diving while eyeing the Ref to make sure he sees it.

:biglaugh: But shouldn't Zidane know better considering his age and experience?

Jussi
07-09-2006, 12:50 PM
Just saw the replay again, Materazzi touched just enough Malouda (sp?) to clip his ankle, causing the penalty.

ATG
07-09-2006, 12:52 PM
Just saw the replay again, Materazzi touched just enough Malouda (sp?) to clip his ankle, causing the penalty.

I saw that as well but to take him down like that is rather doubtful

ATG
07-09-2006, 12:54 PM
I think Ribery could have done better on that Materazzi goal

P-M Bouchard
07-09-2006, 12:58 PM
France is a team that lies low as Ottawa Senators in the Nhl.

Evilo
07-09-2006, 12:58 PM
I told you guys very early in this tournament that Malouda was France's special diver.
He was touched on this play, but probably wouldn't have fallen if it wasn't in the box.

Italy with a brilliant first half, we're lucky to have a draw at half time.

PS : Love to see Zizou score in a Panenka.

ATG
07-09-2006, 12:58 PM
France is a team that lies low as Ottawa Senators in the Nhl.

How so? They have won titles before

Evilo
07-09-2006, 12:59 PM
BTW, german TV showing Materazzi actually fouled Vieira on his goal...

Food for thought....

vitogor
07-09-2006, 01:00 PM
I didn't bring it up Steve L did

Didn't they teach you in kindergarten to be a smarter boy and walk away?

ATG
07-09-2006, 01:01 PM
BTW, german TV showing Materazzi actually fouled Vieira on his goal...

Food for thought....

Shirt tug?

ATG
07-09-2006, 01:02 PM
Didn't they teach you in kindergarten to be a smarter boy and walk away?

In Kindergarten, I would have been the kid up for insulting me. I must have been suspended 10 times before grade 2, boy was I agressive lol.

Evilo
07-09-2006, 01:02 PM
Shirt tug?
He put his hand on Vieira's shoulder and pulled it down.

ATG
07-09-2006, 01:03 PM
In kindergarten, I would have beat the kid up for insulting me. I must have been suspended 10 times before grade 2, boy was I agressive lol.

no edit, so fixed

ATG
07-09-2006, 01:04 PM
He put his hand on Vieira's shoulder and pulled it down.

Much like Crouch in the game against T and T they rarely call it these days especially on corners

DevilFisch
07-09-2006, 01:08 PM
Ohhhhhhh!!!! What an opportunity for Italy, if only they could have done more with that! Why didn't Toni try to head it in? He's RIGHT IN FRONT! Sigh.

Henry is a fighter, getting in that box. Though he should have shot instead going for the pass, IMO.

FearTheFlyers
07-09-2006, 01:09 PM
Ohhhhhhh!!!! What an opportunity for Italy, if only they could have done more with that! Why didn't Toni try to head it in? He's RIGHT IN FRONT! Sigh.


Cannavaro was offside on his original header there and it wasn't called. Would have been a bad goal.

ATG
07-09-2006, 01:10 PM
Ohhhhhhh!!!! What an opportunity for Italy, if only they could have done more with that! Why didn't Toni try to head it in? He's RIGHT IN FRONT! Sigh.

Henry is a fighter, getting in that box. Though he should have shot instead going for the pass, IMO.

Cannavro hit it first, :amazed: what a play by Henry their, absoultely stunning. Just missed the finish

ATG
07-09-2006, 01:11 PM
France are picking it up

DevilFisch
07-09-2006, 01:11 PM
Ah. My mistake then.

France gets in! But Henry holds onto the ball too long and is cleared out! But France still pushes! But Buffon gets to the ball.

France has really come on so far.

DevilFisch
07-09-2006, 01:12 PM
An actual trip and NO call? No penalty! WHAT?!

ATG
07-09-2006, 01:12 PM
That one was a real penalty,Zambrotta got none of the ball

Evilo
07-09-2006, 01:13 PM
Don't want to hear whine about the first half penalty.
Because there's one right there.

vitogor
07-09-2006, 01:13 PM
clear penalty missed by ref

FearTheFlyers
07-09-2006, 01:13 PM
That one was a real penalty,Zambrotta got none of the ball

Zambrotta pulled out of the tackle, he did nothing to bring Malouda down.


It was another dive.

ATG
07-09-2006, 01:13 PM
An actual trip and NO call? No penalty! WHAT?!

Fair is fair after that first penalty probably wasn't one

Nihilism
07-09-2006, 01:13 PM
Wow

When they dive, they give a penalty
When they are fouled, they play on

ATG
07-09-2006, 01:14 PM
Zambrotta pulled out of the tackle, he did nothing to bring Malouda down.


It was another dive.

I don't think so and as you can see no one else here disagree's with me

Evilo
07-09-2006, 01:14 PM
Zambrotta pulled out of the tackle, he did nothing to bring Malouda down.


It was another dive.
Not even close.
Zambrotta didn't touch the ball, but touched Malouda's foot.
It wasn't a mean foul, but it was a foul.

ATG
07-09-2006, 01:15 PM
Well this could be bad for France especially on corners with Materazzi

DevilFisch
07-09-2006, 01:15 PM
Wow

When they dive, they give a penalty
When they are fouled, they play on

Yeah, if anything that isn't fair in any sense of the word.

Patrick Vieira will not be able to continue, he's hurt. #18 Diarra subs in for him.

FearTheFlyers
07-09-2006, 01:16 PM
Not even close.
Zambrotta didn't touch the ball, but touched Malouda's foot.
It wasn't a mean foul, but it was a foul.

I don't think it was, Malouda initiated the contact, Zambrotta had already started to pull out of the tackle, neither leg was even close to being extended.

Bacchus
07-09-2006, 01:16 PM
Should have been a penalty.

les Habs
07-09-2006, 01:16 PM
I need to see another replay, but it looked to me like Zambrotta did indeed pull out and that Malouda simply leaned into him. That would have been a harsh PK unless a replay tells me otherwise.

FearTheFlyers
07-09-2006, 01:17 PM
Italy needs to bring Camoranesi off, he's a waste of space.

ATG
07-09-2006, 01:18 PM
Zidane is starting to do what he did against Brazil some brilliant touches

VilleS
07-09-2006, 01:19 PM
De Rossi coming in :help:

ATG
07-09-2006, 01:20 PM
Italy needs to bring Camoranesi off, he's a waste of space.

Well you may get your wish as Iaquinta(:shakehead why not Gilardino) and the Elbow Assasin is coming in. Well it's Totti, no surprise

FearTheFlyers
07-09-2006, 01:21 PM
Toni wasn't offside. He was level. The other Italian was, but not Toni.

Cannon
07-09-2006, 01:21 PM
GOAL! Italy! Hang on, it's offside. Carry on...

The penalty was a penalty, there's not much doubt about that. When travelling at that speed you only need the slightest knock to go over, especially if you're knocked into your standing leg.

France need to learn to defend set pieces and crosses or they are going to lose this game.

ATG
07-09-2006, 01:21 PM
Offside was the right call

FearTheFlyers
07-09-2006, 01:21 PM
Well you may get your wish as Iaquinta(:shakehead why not Gilardino) and the Elbow Assasin is coming in. Well it's Totti, no surprise

Don't understand Iaquinta, but Totti coming off makes sense, he's absolutely wrecked.

go kim johnsson 514
07-09-2006, 01:21 PM
Suprised Alessandro Del Piero didn't come in right there...

Cannon
07-09-2006, 01:22 PM
Toni wasn't offside. He was level. The other Italian was, but not Toni.

No he wasn't at all, he was well offside.

VilleS
07-09-2006, 01:22 PM
Good save by Buffon

FearTheFlyers
07-09-2006, 01:22 PM
No he wasn't at all, he was well offside.

Yeah, just saw a close-up. Think I had Toni confused with the other Italian.

ATG
07-09-2006, 01:23 PM
Suprised Alessandro Del Piero didn't come in right there...

Del Piero will come in for Toni proabbly during the 80th or so

Jussi
07-09-2006, 01:23 PM
Toni wasn't offside. He was level. The other Italian was, but not Toni.

Doesn't matter, he was too close to Toni to be "not involved in the play" or something.

FearTheFlyers
07-09-2006, 01:24 PM
The penalty was a penalty, there's not much doubt about that. When travelling at that speed you only need the slightest knock to go over, especially if you're knocked into your standing leg.
.

Yeah, but if you initiate the contact it doesn't matter.

ATG
07-09-2006, 01:24 PM
Cannavaro is everywhere, very impressive

FearTheFlyers
07-09-2006, 01:24 PM
Del Piero will come in for Toni proabbly during the 80th or so

They're going to play Mauro for 120 minutes?

go kim johnsson 514
07-09-2006, 01:24 PM
Del Piero will come in for Toni proabbly during the 80th or so

I thought he was a midfielder

ATG
07-09-2006, 01:25 PM
Doesn't matter, he was too close to Toni to be "not involved in the play" or something.

That's the rule

VilleS
07-09-2006, 01:25 PM
I thought he was a midfielder

Nah. Att Mid/Striker

ATG
07-09-2006, 01:26 PM
I thought he was a midfielder

Toni? Nope, Italian Striker. They replaced Perrota a midfielder with another forward

FearTheFlyers
07-09-2006, 01:27 PM
Toni? Nope, Italian Striker. They replaced Perrota a midfielder with another forward

The Perrotta-Iaquinta sub just doesn't make sense to me? Why Perrotta over Camoranesi?

Is Lippi thinking Mauro will be fresher because he didn't play the full game against Germany?

P-M Bouchard
07-09-2006, 01:27 PM
How so? They have won titles before[/QUOTE]

I meant them being passive in the field.

ATG
07-09-2006, 01:28 PM
They're going to play Mauro for 120 minutes?

Toni is good at penalties but he will be drained by the en of the 90th.Trez will go in for France and Del Piero for Italy

FearTheFlyers
07-09-2006, 01:29 PM
France have been much better this half, I'd say they deserve this game, they're doing more to win it.

That said, go Italy.

ATG
07-09-2006, 01:29 PM
The Perrotta-Iaquinta sub just doesn't make sense to me? Why Perrotta over Camoranesi?

Is Lippi thinking Mauro will be fresher because he didn't play the full game against Germany?

Mauro is the better supplier and defender in my view

go kim johnsson 514
07-09-2006, 01:31 PM
Whammo!

FearTheFlyers
07-09-2006, 01:32 PM
Mauro is the better supplier and defender in my view

I think Perrotta has been much better defensively this tournament. Made a nice play to come back and deny France a good chance earlier.

Mauro is normally a good supplier but in the last couple games his fitness ahs deteriorated and he is losing balls easily.

ATG
07-09-2006, 01:33 PM
Cannavro is a beast, no wonder Chelsea wants him so bad

ATG
07-09-2006, 01:34 PM
I think Perrotta has been much better defensively this tournament. Made a nice play to come back and deny France a good chance earlier.

Mauro is normally a good supplier but in the last couple games his fitness ahs deteriorated and he is losing balls easily.

I would agree perhaps Perrota took a knock

VilleS
07-09-2006, 01:39 PM
Zidane seems to be out

VilleS
07-09-2006, 01:40 PM
No he's coming back

ATG
07-09-2006, 01:40 PM
Zidane seems to be out

It would take a broken ankle or something being broken

DevilFisch
07-09-2006, 01:41 PM
I don't know if this is best idea for Zidane. But it's his last game and it's the World Cup Final; he can still go, he might as well play.

VilleS
07-09-2006, 01:42 PM
It would take a broken ankle or something being broken

or dislocated shoulder

VilleS
07-09-2006, 01:45 PM
Camoranesi out
Del Piero in

ATG
07-09-2006, 01:45 PM
There's Del Piero, three forwards :amazed:

FearTheFlyers
07-09-2006, 01:45 PM
Camoranesi out
Del Piero in

I'm no Del Piero fan, but thank god.

ATG
07-09-2006, 01:45 PM
Where's Trezeguet? Come on Domenech :shakehead

Freudian
07-09-2006, 01:45 PM
At this stage of the game Del Piero might even be faster than the average player.

ATG
07-09-2006, 01:46 PM
:biglaugh: De Rossi

FearTheFlyers
07-09-2006, 01:48 PM
Italy need to push up, Zambrotta and Grosso have dissapeared.

ATG
07-09-2006, 01:48 PM
This is a dumb strategy by Italy in my view, France will own on the counter attack

FearTheFlyers
07-09-2006, 01:51 PM
This is a dumb strategy by Italy in my view, France will own on the counter attack

I think Lippi's subs have been awful.

go kim johnsson 514
07-09-2006, 01:51 PM
overtime

ATG
07-09-2006, 01:52 PM
Where's Trezeguet :banghead: .You know what happened in the last extra time game between the two sides

Bubbles
07-09-2006, 01:53 PM
I have no idea why Lippi put De Rossi on, he's given up the ball everytime he touches it.

Dave is a Killer
07-09-2006, 01:54 PM
and the winner for least sportsman like play goes to Malouda ... 1-0 Italy

takharov
07-09-2006, 01:55 PM
This rivals Italy-Brazil 94 for bore draw value. Gilardino for Perotta .Iaquinta ??

And no sign of any link up between midfield & Toni.Both Zambrotta & Grosso look flat out.No runs at all this half.

Evilo
07-09-2006, 01:55 PM
Good second half for France.
Each team owned a half, logical OT.

BRING ON TREZEGOL!!!!!

ATG
07-09-2006, 01:56 PM
and the winner for least sportsman like play goes to Mahouda ... 1-0 Italy

It's Malouda and the second should have been a call so it's half and half

FearTheFlyers
07-09-2006, 01:57 PM
BRING ON TREZEGOL!!!!!

Who do you take off?

ATG
07-09-2006, 01:58 PM
Malouda

Agreed

FearTheFlyers
07-09-2006, 01:59 PM
Malouda

Really, I think he's had his best game of the tournament.

ATG
07-09-2006, 02:02 PM
Really, I think he's had his best game of the tournament.

I agree, but Trez is due

ATG
07-09-2006, 02:03 PM
You guys think Italy with Buffon are comfortable going to penalty kicks?

FearTheFlyers
07-09-2006, 02:04 PM
If Italy continue to show no interest in attacking..do you consider Trezeguet for Makelele?

FearTheFlyers
07-09-2006, 02:05 PM
You guys think Italy with Buffon are comfortable going to penalty kicks?

No.

Del Piero
Toni
Pirlo

Who else would you feel comfortable with taking one?

ATG
07-09-2006, 02:05 PM
If Italy continue to show no interest in attacking..do you consider Trezeguet for Makelele?

With Italy having three forwards out there ou can't take your best holding midfielder out. Malouda should go, nice chance for Ribery

DevilFisch
07-09-2006, 02:05 PM
Ribery! Just wide! Oh, he'd wish he had another crack at that one.

Trezeguet in for Ribery.

FearTheFlyers
07-09-2006, 02:05 PM
Ribery off for Trez.

go kim johnsson 514
07-09-2006, 02:06 PM
Where's Trezeguet :banghead: .You know what happened in the last extra time game between the two sides

You're getting your wish

ATG
07-09-2006, 02:06 PM
No.

Del Piero
Toni
Pirlo

Who else would you feel comfortable with taking one?

Cannavaro and Gattuso :dunno:

FearTheFlyers
07-09-2006, 02:07 PM
Cannavaro and Gattuso :dunno:

That wouldn't exactly fill me with confidence.

ATG
07-09-2006, 02:08 PM
You're getting your wish

:handclap: , problem with Italy's tactics is they failed to consider that only Pirlo now can provide the ball to the attackers, Rossi is not great at feeding forwards.

FearTheFlyers
07-09-2006, 02:08 PM
Iaquinta sucks.

FearTheFlyers
07-09-2006, 02:09 PM
Think Barthez would have saved that?


I don't think so.

DevilFisch
07-09-2006, 02:09 PM
A huuuuuuge save on Zidane! I thought that was going to be it. I can understand Zidane's confusion in how that didn't go in.

ATG
07-09-2006, 02:10 PM
That wouldn't exactly fill me with confidence.

Cannavaro is money, he's been great

go kim johnsson 514
07-09-2006, 02:10 PM
Wow...what a marvelous chance

ATG
07-09-2006, 02:11 PM
A huuuuuuge save on Zidane! I thought that was going to be it. I can understand Zidane's confusion in how that didn't go in.

They still would have had to play 15 minutes

ATG
07-09-2006, 02:12 PM
Think Barthez would have saved that?


I don't think so.

I don't see anyone denying that he isn't the best in the world. Portuguese Euro song by Nelly Furtado is on. FORCA!!!!!

FearTheFlyers
07-09-2006, 02:13 PM
Reflexes are Barthez's strength, so he could've got it.

But Buffon is on top form, as he's been throughout the tournament.

That was a harder header to save than Materazzi's.

Biggsy
07-09-2006, 02:13 PM
Pretty intense game right now eh just one Question i dont follow soccer to much how long are the O.T's?

Evilo
07-09-2006, 02:13 PM
Incredible OT so far for France. These guys are tough.

ATG
07-09-2006, 02:13 PM
While France would have:

Henry
Zidane
Trézéguet
Malouda
Sagnol?

That is pretty good but it will come down to Barthez vs Buffon in my opinion

VilleS
07-09-2006, 02:14 PM
Pretty intense game right now eh just one Question i dont follow soccer to much how long are the O.T's?

Two halfs of 15 minutes

ATG
07-09-2006, 02:14 PM
Henry for Wiltord :shakehead

VilleS
07-09-2006, 02:15 PM
Wiltord for Henry

FearTheFlyers
07-09-2006, 02:15 PM
Wiltord for Henry?



:dunno:

FearTheFlyers
07-09-2006, 02:15 PM
That is pretty good but it will come down to Barthez vs Buffon in my opinion

They just got weaker with Wiltord also.

VilleS
07-09-2006, 02:16 PM
Henry seemed tired

Biggsy
07-09-2006, 02:16 PM
Two halfs of 15 minutes

Then what a shootout after that?

FearTheFlyers
07-09-2006, 02:17 PM
Zizou??

Headbutt.

Wow.

OFFF!

Engineer
07-09-2006, 02:17 PM
That was a cheap, cheap shot by Zidane.

VilleS
07-09-2006, 02:17 PM
Nasty trick by Zidane :shakehead

jaydub
07-09-2006, 02:17 PM
Zidane, what a great guy. Hope Italy wins and taunts this loser afterwards.

RED CARD! nice work by the refs

Bourque7799
07-09-2006, 02:17 PM
Zidane with a brutal headbutt..wow didn't expect that from him

Freudian
07-09-2006, 02:18 PM
Wow. That is so unlike Zidane.

VilleS
07-09-2006, 02:18 PM
Then what a shootout after that?

yep

ATG
07-09-2006, 02:18 PM
Wiltord for Henry?



:dunno:

Almost as awful as Iaquinta coming in, Zidane pulls a crazy headbutt:amazed:

FearTheFlyers
07-09-2006, 02:18 PM
Zidane gone.


What an idiot.

go kim johnsson 514
07-09-2006, 02:18 PM
Zidane man...what the eff are you thinking?

DevilFisch
07-09-2006, 02:18 PM
How NOT to end your career on a highnote?

Getting a red card for a headbutt in extra time just because someone said something.

Like Harvard in the summer, Zidane has NO class.

VilleS
07-09-2006, 02:19 PM
I'm speechless. Wonder what Materazzi said?

takharov
07-09-2006, 02:19 PM
Zidane should be sent off but it was missed I think.After consultation with his linesman perhaps not.

Sad way to end a career if Italy suceed in lifting the Cup.

Freudian
07-09-2006, 02:19 PM
Materazzi, the Sean Avery of football.

Irish Blues
07-09-2006, 02:19 PM
Late in the final, you have a potential shot to help your team win the game in penalty kicks if it stays this way, ... and then you do something stupid like that.

Not the way you want the end of your career to be remembered.

Suiteness
07-09-2006, 02:20 PM
What on earth was he thinking?:shakehead

FearTheFlyers
07-09-2006, 02:20 PM
So......

Wiltord
Malouda
Trezeguet
Sagnol
Diarra??

Against Buffon.

Yikes.

Evilo
07-09-2006, 02:20 PM
No idea what went through his head.
It seems Materazzi talked him into it, but you should never do this in OT of a WC.

I hope it doesn't cost us.

Dave is a Killer
07-09-2006, 02:20 PM
Forza Azzurri!

ATG
07-09-2006, 02:20 PM
I hate to say it but no one saw that incident and Buffon running out is not needed either. If you guys complain about the Rooney incidnet it was the same thing there but no ref saw it

go kim johnsson 514
07-09-2006, 02:21 PM
In the words of Phil Martelli



"I can't explain it...temporary insanity?"

FearTheFlyers
07-09-2006, 02:21 PM
I hate to say it but no one saw that incident and Buffon running out is not needed either. If you guys complain about the Rooney incidnet it was the same thing there but no ref saw it

I never saw Buffon actually talking to the ref though.

I could be wrong, but it looked like he was arguing with the French players.

jaydub
07-09-2006, 02:22 PM
and the fans boo Italy mercilessly now :dunno:

FearTheFlyers
07-09-2006, 02:23 PM
He went to the ref and should've been booked too.

Okay, thanks.

VilleS
07-09-2006, 02:23 PM
and the fans boo Italy mercilessly now :dunno:

well they didint see the replays

go kim johnsson 514
07-09-2006, 02:24 PM
If France loses this game, there is no way Zidane is retiring