Podolski Named Best Young Player of WC

http://www.eurosport.com/football/worldcup/2006/sport_sto921770.shtml

Thought Christiano Ronaldo would get it, but the votes are for Podolski

:dunno:

http://www.eurosport.com/football/worldcup/2006/sport_sto921770.shtml

Thought Christiano Ronaldo would get it, but the votes are for Podolski

If Ronaldo were able to follow Podolski's example and shut his mouth he may have indeed won it.

If Ronaldo were able to follow Podolski's example and shut his mouth he may have indeed won it.

Very true, I'm no fan of Ronaldo, but it seemed like he had a bigger impact then Podolski, but maybe that just cuz Klose was scoring left and right

Very true, I'm no fan of Ronaldo, but it seemed like he had a bigger impact then Podolski, but maybe that just cuz Klose was scoring left and right

as opposed to Pauleta scoring left and right......

as opposed to Pauleta scoring left and right......

The same Pauleta with one goal ?

The same Pauleta with one goal ?

precisely my point:teach:

call me stupid but IMO the best young player was messi..
he played like 90 min and got a goal and 2 assist ..
pretty impressive!

http://www.eurosport.com/football/worldcup/2006/sport_sto921770.shtml

Thought Christiano Ronaldo would get it, but the votes are for Podolski

He was leading until 100,000 votes from Englishmen in one day overturned it, he was only leading because the jocks voted for him to win. :dunce:

as opposed to Pauleta scoring left and right......
Dont you mean shooting wide left and right?

call me stupid but IMO the best young player was messi..
he played like 90 min and got a goal and 2 assist ..
pretty impressive!


This award is a tin pot one.Its a sop to the Germans.Podolski has pace & aggression but his close control isnt great & his finishing at times is woeful when compared to the likes of Klinsmann & Rumenigge at the same age.

As I put down of the very young players Fabregas & Messi have better close control & skill levels.Fabregas awareness is better than Messi at this stage too.

Same goes for FIFAs world cup XXIII .Terry in as a centre back ? :dunno:
If Klose wins the Golden Boot as is likely it doesnt mean hes the best striker in the world.Hes certainly improved his link up play & hes pretty efficient but he isnt the best in the world.

Blatter :dunce: loves handing out these awards which is why there are so many of them.

:biglaugh: So Podolski was no where on the radar to win the thing but my some miracle on the last day he earned like 20% when he was 4th behind Valencia, Ronaldo and Messi. *cough rigged *cough :biglaugh: :shakehead what a joke

Dont you mean shooting wide left and right?

to do that would he not have had to touch the ball :dunno:

I don't think Podolski was all that impressive, and I'm a big fan of Germany. Most of his offensive output was due to exquisite plays set up by Klose. Thank god he finally scored a few because for awhile, he was missing some extremely easy chances.

Klose was the revelation for Germany at this World Cup. Dangerous pretty much every time he touched the ball. It became obvious after awhile which is why the more difficult opponents keyed on him. Despite this, he still managed to create the most dangerous opportunities for Germany (i.e. Schneider's open shot against Italy).

Giving it to Messi would be pointless given that he wasn't even trusted enough to play more than a handful of minutes in the knock-out stages. Argentina has a lot of depth, and it's just his bad luck as he'd certainly have a greater role on a different team.

I'd have to go with Cristiano Ronaldo given that he was Portugal's most dangerous player on a consistent level throughout the tournament, despite his lack of finish. Without him, Portugal would have been even more anemic than they actually were.

However, the anti-Ronaldo campaign obviously factored in here.

Note To Fifa, when you say that fan voting will determine the winner of a trophy don't be morons or at least rig the voting properly

http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/bypa/results.html

http://www.eurosport.com/football/worldcup/2006/sport_sto921770.shtml

Thought Christiano Ronaldo would get it, but the votes are for Podolski

Funny thing about this article is that, England fans started voting for Valencia in mass but what about your boy Rooney? That's probably a bigger to him then Ronaldo as a massive Englnad push could have had him up there

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: Podolski:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Funny thing about this article is that, England fans started voting for Valencia in mass but what about your boy Rooney? That's probably a bigger to him then Ronaldo as a massive Englnad push could have had him up there

I think you underestimate the intelligence of english fans. You would rarely meet one that says Rooney should have won this award, so they're not going to make it obvious by voting for him. :shakehead

I think you underestimate the intelligence of english fans. You would rarely meet one that says Rooney should have won this award, so they're not going to make it obvious by voting for him. :shakehead

So you vote for Valencia who really didn't show more then Poldolski,Messi or Ronaldo but just happened to be in second.

ATG, you should delete that.

Anyway, it's too bad the cut off date was 85, because Ribery sure was the best "young" player. But I guess you're not young anymore after 21.

ATG, you should delete that.

Anyway, it's too bad the cut off date was 85, because Ribery sure was the best "young" player. But I guess you're not young anymore after 21.I agree that Ribery should have at leats been given consideration he was at least top 3 among the players listed though he has been much better in the knockout stages

I don't see what's wrong with Podolski winning it. He did very well for such a young guy, although he did miss some easy chances.

I don't see what's wrong with Podolski winning it. He did very well for such a young guy, although he did miss some easy chances.

Only issue I have is that he was not in the top 3 in voting by the public, so what was the point in them voting?

OK, if you don't mind, I'll take care of it.
That will only give you trouble.

OK, if you don't mind, I'll take care of it.
That will only give you trouble.

Thanks, I guess. Someone could at least give me the editing option back as I type to fast and usually never proof read my messages on here. Don't wanna come off as an illeterate

I think you underestimate the intelligence of english fans. You would rarely meet one that says Rooney should have won this award, so they're not going to make it obvious by voting for him. :shakehead

With out sense of humour, wed have voted for Walcott if it wasnt a priority to stop Ronaldo winning.

With out sense of humour, wed have voted for Walcott if it wasnt a priority to stop Ronaldo winning.

:biglaugh: What was the point in bringing Walcott to the WC again? :dunno:

I don't see what's wrong with Podolski winning it. He did very well for such a young guy, although he did miss some easy chances.
No problem for me.
But I feel some players have been better but FIFA's cut off age was ridiculouly low (Ribery at 23 is young and he's been the best youngster of this WC). They should have put it with U24 or something.

:biglaugh: What was the point in bringing Walcott to the WC again? :dunno:

He couldn't get tickets to the games, so he just asked Sven to take him.

No problem for me.
But I feel some players have been better but FIFA's cut off age was ridiculouly low (Ribery at 23 is young and he's been the best youngster of this WC). They should have put it with U24 or something.

I doubt Ribery would have won it anyway Evilo, Fifa is all about marketing and having a guy like Ribery win does not give them the greatest PR. Not because of the way he plays but unfortunately the way he looks. You won't see Adidas/Nike trying to sign him for the same reason. I think it's disgraceful but it's the way society is these days.

He couldn't get tickets to the games, so he just asked Sven to take him.

Maybe he made some pass at Walcott and Walcott threatened to expose and this was the way to shut him up ;) :biglaugh:

:biglaugh: What was the point in bringing Walcott to the WC again? :dunno:There was no one else to babysit him.

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>What I did on my summer holiday
>By Theo Walcott Esq aged 8 1/2
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>I went to a place called Germany with my Uncle Sven and some other
>grown up's. It is a country in Europe where a bad man called Adolf used
>to live with his nazties, he does not live there anymore, Uncle Owen
>does live there, and the grown up's say I cant talk about the bad man
>as it will make Uncle Owen cry if I do. In Germany there are lots of
>castles and some mountains. We are staying in a place called Baden
>Baden that's a silly name, Uncle Frank has the same name as his dad,
>that's silly too, his mum must get their underpants mixed up all the
>time.
>
>On the aeroplane Uncle Sol sat next to me, he got me some toffee and
>wants to be my friend, he works at the place where I do my YTS, so does
>Uncle Freddy but him and Uncle Sol are not best friends anymore.
>
>Uncle Owen met us at the airport, he talks foreign, Uncle Wayne, Uncle
>Steven and Uncle David also talk funny, my mum says Uncle David talks
>like Orville, he is a duck, Uncle Sol say's uncle David wears dresses
>and knickers, and asked me if I had ever worn them. Uncle Sol got me
>some pop.
>
>In Germany the grown ups are going to play football, my grandad says we
>beat them in the olden days before my mum was born. That is a long time
>ago.
>
>While the grown up's went to play football so I went shopping with
>Auntie Vicky and some other girls she bought me a big ice cream and got
>herself a little one but she said she was full before she had eaten any
>and threw it away. She bought lots of shoes and handbags and let me
>play with Brooklyn. She say's she used to be in a pop band and sang me
>one of her songs, I think she was telling fibs.
>
>I told Uncle Sol about my day out with Vicky and he sulked, then he
>bought me an even bigger ice cream with lots of hundred's & thousands
>on it.
>
>All the other grown up's have a girlfriend except Uncle Sol so he plays
>with me while they go out. Uncle Sven says I must keep Uncle Sol happy,
>that's why I got taken on holiday.
>
>The grown up's went to play Football against somebody called Sweden,
>Uncle Sol was crying as Uncle Freddy played for them and would not talk
>to him. Uncle Sol bought me lots of toffee today and some crisps. Uncle
>Sven is from Sweden and I heard him on the phone to their boss last
>night. Uncle Michael hurt his knee and had to go home to his mum for a
>plaster. Uncle Peter is a giant, a proper giant like you see in books,
>he is rubbish at football though.
>
>Uncle Wayne had a sore toe at the start of out holiday but it got
>better so they let him play football. Uncle Sol got me a present but I
>do not like it. He says all Germans wear leather underpants and I
>should while we are here, they are too tight for me.
>
>All the grown up's started to call Uncle Wayne a potato head who stood
>on somebodys spuds. He got shouted at by the referee. They are all
>saying that we have to go home now. Uncle Sol was crying again and I
>had to sit on his knee to make him stop. He had his mobile phone in his
>pocket, I think.

There was no one else to babysit him.

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>What I did on my summer holiday
>By Theo Walcott Esq aged 8 1/2
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>
>I went to a place called Germany with my Uncle Sven and some other
>grown up's. It is a country in Europe where a bad man called Adolf used
>to live with his nazties, he does not live there anymore, Uncle Owen
>does live there, and the grown up's say I cant talk about the bad man
>as it will make Uncle Owen cry if I do. In Germany there are lots of
>castles and some mountains. We are staying in a place called Baden
>Baden that's a silly name, Uncle Frank has the same name as his dad,
>that's silly too, his mum must get their underpants mixed up all the
>time.
>
>On the aeroplane Uncle Sol sat next to me, he got me some toffee and
>wants to be my friend, he works at the place where I do my YTS, so does
>Uncle Freddy but him and Uncle Sol are not best friends anymore.
>
>Uncle Owen met us at the airport, he talks foreign, Uncle Wayne, Uncle
>Steven and Uncle David also talk funny, my mum says Uncle David talks
>like Orville, he is a duck, Uncle Sol say's uncle David wears dresses
>and knickers, and asked me if I had ever worn them. Uncle Sol got me
>some pop.
>
>In Germany the grown ups are going to play football, my grandad says we
>beat them in the olden days before my mum was born. That is a long time
>ago.
>
>While the grown up's went to play football so I went shopping with
>Auntie Vicky and some other girls she bought me a big ice cream and got
>herself a little one but she said she was full before she had eaten any
>and threw it away. She bought lots of shoes and handbags and let me
>play with Brooklyn. She say's she used to be in a pop band and sang me
>one of her songs, I think she was telling fibs.
>
>I told Uncle Sol about my day out with Vicky and he sulked, then he
>bought me an even bigger ice cream with lots of hundred's & thousands
>on it.
>
>All the other grown up's have a girlfriend except Uncle Sol so he plays
>with me while they go out. Uncle Sven says I must keep Uncle Sol happy,
>that's why I got taken on holiday.
>
>The grown up's went to play Football against somebody called Sweden,
>Uncle Sol was crying as Uncle Freddy played for them and would not talk
>to him. Uncle Sol bought me lots of toffee today and some crisps. Uncle
>Sven is from Sweden and I heard him on the phone to their boss last
>night. Uncle Michael hurt his knee and had to go home to his mum for a
>plaster. Uncle Peter is a giant, a proper giant like you see in books,
>he is rubbish at football though.
>
>Uncle Wayne had a sore toe at the start of out holiday but it got
>better so they let him play football. Uncle Sol got me a present but I
>do not like it. He says all Germans wear leather underpants and I
>should while we are here, they are too tight for me.
>
>All the grown up's started to call Uncle Wayne a potato head who stood
>on somebodys spuds. He got shouted at by the referee. They are all
>saying that we have to go home now. Uncle Sol was crying again and I
>had to sit on his knee to make him stop. He had his mobile phone in his
>pocket, I think.

Shooping with aunt Vicky? he should have been tapping that, most action he would have got all tournament

ATG, you should delete that.

Anyway, it's too bad the cut off date was 85, because Ribery sure was the best "young" player. But I guess you're not young anymore after 21.

On performances alone, Ronaldo and Podolski have been more impressive than Ribery, who has only started to perform after his goal and was neither here nor there against Portugal.

I disagree. Ribery was better than both Ronaldo and Podolski, and by a fair margin.

I agree. Ribery is extremely inconsistent and << Ronaldo & Podolski

I read somewhere that a huge part of why Ronaldo lost the award was his lack of sportmanship (especially his part in the Rooney sending off). Correct me if Im wrong but wasnt Podolski one of the germans who literally petted the ref when he sent off a swede in the first knockout stage? Its a very even vote, and i guess Podolski won because hes german. Fair enough

Ronaldo only has himself to blame for not winning this award. Had he not been such an unsportsmanlike tool he would have won.

Personally I thought Ronaldo actually was the best young player in this WC. Fantastic runs, great moves and he was a threat everytime he touched the ball. He was one of Portugal's best players. However, he was also one of the biggest *****es in the tournament. Had he played like a man he would have ran away with the award.

Well count me in the (apparent) minority here.
Sure Ronaldo was dangerous.
Sure he made things happen, or at least seemingly.

But what precise dangerous action was he part of?
What goal was he part of?

He hit the bar against Angola.
He scored a penalty kick against Iran.
He had a dangerous free kick against France.

That's about it. He was dangerous at most 5 times directly with a dangerous shot or a dangerous pass.
On the other hand, he ruined about 10 plays by slowing down the counter attack by making 5 dekes before either losing the ball or sending a lateral pass.

Ronaldo seemed like Portugal's most dangerous player because his style is flashy.
I think Portugal's best player in this WC was Figo.

Since we're naming overaged players, Philipp Lahm deserves a mention. Sure, he might have been even better two years ago, but he's still only 22 and despite his injured arm was once again one of the best full backs around. In fact, I think he had a somewhat better tournament than Ribery (so far).

But anyways, Lionel Messi was easily the most impressive young player of the World Cup. He's just something special. :wave:

Ronaldo only has himself to blame for not winning this award. Had he not been such an unsportsmanlike tool he would have won.

Personally I thought Ronaldo actually was the best young player in this WC. Fantastic runs, great moves and he was a threat everytime he touched the ball. He was one of Portugal's best players. However, he was also one of the biggest *****es in the tournament. Had he played like a man he would have ran away with the award.


I agree. It was his to lose and he did just that. Podolski was good but not as a set up guy like Ronaldo. Ronaldo can set up a play or shoot to score, while Podolski was mainly set up to shoot.

However, the right guy won since sportsmanship counts as well.

When was the last time Ronaldo actually SET UP a play?

When was the last time Ronaldo actually SET UP a play?

Game winner vs Holland was pretty much all him, his abilties set up Deco to *** perfectly Maniche

Game winner vs Holland was pretty much all him, his abilties set up Deco to pass perfectly Maniche

:biglaugh: I miss the edit option

Actually, it was Pauleta who set up Maniche.
Funny, huh?

Actually, it was Pauleta who set up Maniche.
Funny, huh?

I don't believe so im gonna go watch the highlights of that game

Actually, it was Pauleta who set up Maniche.
Funny, huh?

After watching it you are correct but he played a small part in the play considering it was Ronaldo's run that set up Deco for the pass to Pauleta who just tipped it back to Maniche. No complaints there on Pedro, wish I had seen more of that in the tourney

I disagree. Ribery was better than both Ronaldo and Podolski, and by a fair margin.

I think it's amazing how you cannot say a bad word about anything French and then have the cheek to call others 'bias'....

Before his goal, Ribery was dreadful and it was those performances that would have cost him the young player award.

I think it's amazing how you cannot say a bad word about anything French and then have the cheek to call others 'bias'....

Before his goal, Ribery was dreadful and it was those performances that would have cost him the young player award.
No he wasn't. Amazing how much wrong you can spew.

In any case, I've been the biggest France criticizer in this WC, you'll just have to go through the group stage threads.

No he wasn't. Amazing how much wrong you can spew.

In any case, I've been the biggest France criticizer in this WC, you'll just have to go through the group stage threads.
Ribery sucked his first game, and though he hasn't played up to his best potential, it was enough for him to have impact in each of the following games.

BTW Newham, how did your bad luck charm work?

You know, when you and a couple of other brits came in and wished France would lose?

Has worked well so far, huh?

Ribery sucked his first game, and though he hasn't played up to his best potential, it was enough for him to have impact in each of the following games.

There are very few players that have failed to make even the slightest impact in a game so your point is irrelevant. He's not been good enough to make him a possible choice for an award, despite what you say. I also note that every single pundit i have heard in this World Cup agrees with me too. He's been a non-entity tonight too, but of course, you must be right.....

Ribery isn't a bad player, but he's not even close to being as good as you make him out to be. He's far too lightweight and spends far too long chasing his man rather than beating him.

BTW Newham, how did your bad luck charm work?

You know, when you and a couple of other brits came in and wished France would lose?

Has worked well so far, huh?

1) Your country is about to play in the World Cup Final, it's an hour or so before the game and you're on the internet. What's wrong with you?
2) Secondly, i have no idea what you mean. I don't wish France would lose at all today, in fact i'm kinda rooting for them now. The Italians don't deserve to win anything. Get your facts straight before you embarass yourself yet again.

1) Your country is about to play in the World Cup Final, it's an hour or so before the game and you're on the internet. What's wrong with you?
2) Secondly, i have no idea what you mean. I don't wish France would lose at all today, in fact i'm kinda rooting for them now. The Italians don't deserve to win anything. Get your facts straight before you embarass yourself yet again.

That was against Togo or Spain.

I haven't seen too much, but I think it would've been wrong to give that award to an egoistic top-notch diver. Ronaldo may be the most talented guy of them (besides Messi), but if he is the best "rookie" -- good night football !

Messi was really impressiv...too bad he didn't play more minutes.

Podolski and Klose are not germans, they are Polaks.



Unfortunately.

There was no one else to babysit him.

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>What I did on my summer holiday
>By Theo Walcott Esq aged 8 1/2
>
>
>I went to a place called Germany with my Uncle Sven and some other
>grown up's. It is a country in Europe where a bad man called Adolf used
>to live with his nazties, he does not live there anymore, Uncle Owen
>does live there, and the grown up's say I cant talk about the bad man
>as it will make Uncle Owen cry if I do. In Germany there are lots of
>castles and some mountains. We are staying in a place called Baden
>Baden that's a silly name, Uncle Frank has the same name as his dad,
>that's silly too, his mum must get their underpants mixed up all the
>time.
>
>On the aeroplane Uncle Sol sat next to me, he got me some toffee and
>wants to be my friend, he works at the place where I do my YTS, so does
>Uncle Freddy but him and Uncle Sol are not best friends anymore.
>
>Uncle Owen met us at the airport, he talks foreign, Uncle Wayne, Uncle
>Steven and Uncle David also talk funny, my mum says Uncle David talks
>like Orville, he is a duck, Uncle Sol say's uncle David wears dresses
>and knickers, and asked me if I had ever worn them. Uncle Sol got me
>some pop.
>
>In Germany the grown ups are going to play football, my grandad says we
>beat them in the olden days before my mum was born. That is a long time
>ago.
>
>While the grown up's went to play football so I went shopping with
>Auntie Vicky and some other girls she bought me a big ice cream and got
>herself a little one but she said she was full before she had eaten any
>and threw it away. She bought lots of shoes and handbags and let me
>play with Brooklyn. She say's she used to be in a pop band and sang me
>one of her songs, I think she was telling fibs.
>
>I told Uncle Sol about my day out with Vicky and he sulked, then he
>bought me an even bigger ice cream with lots of hundred's & thousands
>on it.
>
>All the other grown up's have a girlfriend except Uncle Sol so he plays
>with me while they go out. Uncle Sven says I must keep Uncle Sol happy,
>that's why I got taken on holiday.
>
>The grown up's went to play Football against somebody called Sweden,
>Uncle Sol was crying as Uncle Freddy played for them and would not talk
>to him. Uncle Sol bought me lots of toffee today and some crisps. Uncle
>Sven is from Sweden and I heard him on the phone to their boss last
>night. Uncle Michael hurt his knee and had to go home to his mum for a
>plaster. Uncle Peter is a giant, a proper giant like you see in books,
>he is rubbish at football though.
>
>Uncle Wayne had a sore toe at the start of out holiday but it got
>better so they let him play football. Uncle Sol got me a present but I
>do not like it. He says all Germans wear leather underpants and I
>should while we are here, they are too tight for me.
>
>All the grown up's started to call Uncle Wayne a potato head who stood
>on somebodys spuds. He got shouted at by the referee. They are all
>saying that we have to go home now. Uncle Sol was crying again and I
>had to sit on his knee to make him stop. He had his mobile phone in his
>pocket, I think.

:biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: Holy **** that's funny. Where you get that?

Man i would love to see Podolski and Klose on Poland that would have been awsome.

Messi was really impressiv...too bad he didn't play more minutes.

Yes. He and Cesc are easily the best youngsters that were in this tournament. Neither of them received a proper chance though. Still as you'll see in the future with their club sides, both Cesc and Messi will be amongst the best of their generation.

I haven't seen too much, but I think it would've been wrong to give that award to an egoistic top-notch diver. Ronaldo may be the most talented guy of them (besides Messi), but if he is the best "rookie" -- good night football !

Messi was really impressiv...too bad he didn't play more minutes.

i agree. but ronaldo was still best young player. he could be really great if he'd stop diving every minute.

pekerman should have played messi more. argentina was most impressive of all, until they lost. pekerman lost them the match. still don't know why he took out riquelme.

if ribery was elgible, he should have been 2nd or 3rd. he was good but he also missed several open nets.

Ribéry is fine young player. I like his constant drift to go forward, I also like his dribble and his speed. What I don't like is the fact that his timing of when to pass and when not is extremely off. He also has no shot whatsoever and lacks accuracy in both passing/crossing and shooting whenever he approaches the box. Also feel he often does too much.

It also appears that Ronaldo did not endear himself to FIFA's version of the Oscar committee. The manner in which the best young player is selected is a farce. The fans select their top three candidates on FIFA's website (which ended up being Ronaldo, Messi and Valencia) and the technical group adds three candidates of their own, namely Podolski. Ultimately it's the technical study group that gets the final say. But their final selection really isn't all that surprising considering Holger Osieck, a German, is the head the Technical Study Group. It's also comprised of 13 other former players and coaches who have enjoyed German hospitality for the last month.

Podolski had a good tournament, but if scoring three goals in seven games (and none in his last three games) is enough to earn him an award, then shame on FIFA for even coming up with this new prize. Podolski is an out-and-out striker, it's his job to score goals. He struggled for form in his first two games before scoring a meaningless goal against Ecuador. His shining moment came in the first 20 minutes of Germany's 2-0 win over Sweden. But he'll be most remembered for missing a sitter in extra-time against Italy. If you were to remove Podolski from the German national team, they still boast a formidable lineup. But if you were to take Ronaldo off the Portuguese squad, their starting 11 becomes mediocre.

Per-sportsnet

But if you were to take Ronaldo off the Portuguese squad, their starting 11 becomes mediocre.

I believe the exact contrary.
Without his useless dekes, Portugal would not waste as much time on lots of plays, and they would be collective.

Ronaldo is one of the main reasons why any striker won't score huge amount of goals in key games : he wants to be the scorer anytime the game is of importance.
He tries to show off, and he wastes plenty of opportunities.