Anyone interested in Pronger?

Reports are that he wants to be traded. He would certainly fit the need many have identified for another top-4 D who can run the powerplay. He has four years left at $6.5-million. What would it take to get him?

Reports are that he wants to be traded. He would certainly fit the need many have identified for another top-4 D who can run the powerplay. He has four years left at $6.5-million. What would it take to get him?

Of-course I am interested, but the price to get him would be very high. I don't even want to think about that. :biglaugh:

Yeah.....it would take one of the kids to bring him in.

BUT....I guess I would offer:

Giguere + Lupul+ 1st

Thats steeep though...and you would probably have to offer Vishnevski as well. :eek:

Nah. Gah. Happen.

If Burke wants to add another d-man for 6.5 million a year, he will just sign Redden or Chara without having to give up anyone in return. But still, that won't happen anyways.

In addition to all the valid issues raised above, do you really think that Kevin Lowe would deal a player of Pronger's status to the Ducks (a team that I'm sure Lowe feels will be near the top of Western Conference for many years to come)?

If Pronger is moved, it wouldn't surprise me if he returned to St. Louis.

Am I interested? Heck yes. Him and Nieds on the same blueline would be one of the best tandems ever. But I don't think it's going to happen.

No, all though he had an outstanding playoffs - his season's play and Olympics efforts were mediocre. In fact he stunk out the joint in Torino.

Niedermayer is our anchor on defense, we need others such as Kubina or Ed Jovanovski too make it stronger and to help make our PP more effective.

Besides a trade would cost us Perry or Getzlaf or Penner or 2 of the three. I'd rather stick with the guys who almost got us to the Stanley Cup finals this year. :handclap:

1. I doubt he's traded in conference..possible but doubtful.
2. It would cost us more than what it would be worth, i'm talking atleast Getzlaf or Lupul/1st/Smid at minimum to get him.

Lowe won't let a team as good as us have him, he'll also be sending him east so he doesn't have to play him. Too much money and this team is on a budget not big enough to fit him in.

Lowe won't let a team as good as us have him, he'll also be sending him east so he doesn't have to play him. Too much money and this team is on a budget not big enough to fit him in.
Lowe will force Pronger to pay back his entire season salary :sarcasm:

I don't know how Pronger would fit in the Duck's system, I am pretty sure we can find a spot for him, but do we really need him? I find Blake, Jovo or Chara a better choice as for a D-man.

if the oilers were going to trade pronger to the ducks the guy i'd want back is neidermeyer, and that ain't gonna happen so there won't be any deal there.

Also, we don't need him. If we end up with Pronger and Niedermayer on the same team, it would be basically one of them on the ice at all times. As both would be to shut down the top line on other teams, it would be over kill by a long way. Other teams only have one top line that needs shutting down, not four.

An average D.man would be better for us, and a lot cheaper.

I think you guys are all nuts, Pronger is a spectacular 2 way defenseman.

Scotty is maneverable but Pronger is physical...

Scotty moves well with/without the puck, Pronger has a hammer of a shot.

They'd both take so much pressure of each other... crazy talk!!!

And Pronger is a bargain at his salary.

Depends on the asking price, but i would give up lupul + vish for him.. maybe even smid.

I'm not sure what Pronger's wife is looking for in terms of NHL cities but hockey-wise Philly makes sense. Their D was exploited endlessly during that Sabres series and they have enough prospects/players to get it done.

So why does he want out of Edmonton again?

So why does he want out of Edmonton again?

His ball and chain doesn't like it there.

His wife couldn't handle the world's loudest arena which helped Oilers to almost win the cup.

He had a great year and a great playoffs, but I don't like him for the length of his contract or the salary he's earning. I think his wanting out of Edmonton is actually a blessing in disguise for the Oilers.

His wife couldn't handle the world's loudest arena which helped Oilers to almost win the cup.



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I like that Pepper!!!!!!!!!!

I think you guys are all nuts, Pronger is a spectacular 2 way defenseman.

Scotty is maneverable but Pronger is physical...

Scotty moves well with/without the puck, Pronger has a hammer of a shot.

They'd both take so much pressure of each other... crazy talk!!!

And Pronger is a bargain at his salary.

Depends on the asking price, but i would give up lupul + vish for him.. maybe even smid.


The Ducks would be crazy to even consider Pronger. Why would they make a trade and give up players when Chara, Redden, Blake, Jovo, and Kubina are available as UFA's without having to gut the team to get Pronger. Albeit, Pronger is a great player, but at the expense of having to give up players it would be stupid for Burke to even consider it.

Yeah Id rather have Chara for 1-2 million more and keep the kids than otherwise.

The Ducks would be crazy to even consider Pronger. Why would they make a trade and give up players when Chara, Redden, Blake, Jovo, and Kubina are available as UFA's without having to gut the team to get Pronger. Albeit, Pronger is a great player, but at the expense of having to give up players it would be stupid for Burke to even consider it.


Not so fast. What you're saying sounds good, but there are at least a couple of flaws in your thinking: (1) with the possible exception of Chara, none of those d-men are even in Pronger's league. Pronger changes the whole dynamic of the game. The other don't; (2) who says you're going to be able to sign any of those guys at a reasonable price? There have been rumors that the Rangers might be willing to throw $8 mil per year at Chara; (3) while trading involves losing a player, prospect or picks---sometimes that's the preferable way to go: you are guaranteed that you're getting a player that you want, you know what his contract status is and you may be able to shed some salary in the deal.

Suppose we trade for Pronger and shed $2.5 in salary? We've only increased our cap by $4 mil, not $6.5 mil. We may be able to replace the traded player or players relatively cheaply. Conversely, the price for Chara probably will be a minimum of $7 mil and maybe $8 mil?

It would be an awfully uncomfortable situation if Burke tried to sign a d-man for more money that Scott Niedermayer makes.

I'd be in favor of exploring the possibility of a trade for Pronger. However, as I said in another thread, as a practical matter, I doubt that Ron Lowe would seriously consider dealing Pronger to one of the stronger teams in the Western Conference.

We don't need Pronger, that's the whole thing. Yeah, it'd be nice but he's not worth getting rid of one of our young players. In less Lowe takes a first round pick and say Chistov than ok bring him over but to sacrifice our young talent for a guy who wants out of the team that was a game away from the Cup? No way, take your wife and your selfish demands elsewhere.

We don't need Pronger, that's the whole thing. Yeah, it'd be nice but he's not worth getting rid of one of our young players. In less Lowe takes a first round pick and say Chistov than ok bring him over but to sacrifice our young talent for a guy who wants out of the team that was a game away from the Cup? No way, take your wife and your selfish demands elsewhere.
Why don't we need him? Every team needs Pronger, except for Calgary anyways. Niedermayer and Beauchemin were exhausted by the end of the playoffs because nobody else could be counted on.

Why don't we need him? Every team needs Pronger, except for Calgary anyways. Niedermayer and Beauchemin were exhausted by the end of the playoffs because nobody else could be counted on.
We don't need him as all we need is another dependable defence man. We don't need two of the top three best blue liners in the world. There's only so many thing you need a top defence man to do, and one of them can cover them all. Have them would be nice, but I don't see how we could need him at all.

Think of it this way. Right now we need to improve our goal scoring more than our defending. Do we spend that $6m on the defender or on the forward?

Also I don't see the 'Canes with two of the best blue liners in the world, and they've got the cup.

Out of curiosity, would anyone here give Bobby Ryan for Pronger?

Also I don't see the 'Canes with two of the best blue liners in the world, and they've got the cup.

They don't even have one, but it doesn't mean we should dump Niedermayer and try to pattern ourselves after the Canes.

Out of curiosity, would anyone here give Bobby Ryan for Pronger?
I would.

Out of curiosity, would anyone here give Bobby Ryan for Pronger?

Nope.

Proposal:

Ducks send:

Bobby Ryan + Giguere + 2nd

for

Pronger

overpayment?

Out of curiosity, would anyone here give Bobby Ryan for Pronger?

Definitely.

Proposal:

Ducks send:

Bobby Ryan + Giguere + 2nd

for

Pronger

overpayment?

Overpayment.

Not at all.

Proposal:

Ducks send:

Bobby Ryan + Giguere + 2nd

for

Pronger

overpayment?

I'd say get rid of the 2nd and it sounds about right. If we wanted to get rid of salary we could do that too (perhaps o'donnell?). Not, however, according to a lot of the fans in the trade rumors board, but I think they're just plain crazy.

Proposal:

Ducks send:

Bobby Ryan + Giguere + 2nd

for

Pronger

overpayment?


definitely

We don't need him as all we need is another dependable defence man. We don't need two of the top three best blue liners in the world. There's only so many thing you need a top defence man to do, and one of them can cover them all. Have them would be nice, but I don't see how we could need him at all.

Think of it this way. Right now we need to improve our goal scoring more than our defending. Do we spend that $6m on the defender or on the forward?

Also I don't see the 'Canes with two of the best blue liners in the world, and they've got the cup.
Pronger improves the offense and defense and gives us a big horse for the playoffs who can play in all situations. He could do for a Smid or Kondratiev what Niedermayer did for Beauchemin. Scott can't do it all by himself, even if it's not a Pronger we need an all around defensemen that's an upgrade on Salei, as we have 3 3rd pairing dmen(dipenta/vish/OD) and really only one reliable defense pairing.

Why don't we need him? Every team needs Pronger, except for Calgary anyways. Niedermayer and Beauchemin were exhausted by the end of the playoffs because nobody else could be counted on.

We don't need Pronger.

Do you need that double-double instead of a plain hamburger? You might want it. It might look really good. It could make you feel better. But, you don't need it.

It's all the same.

We don't need Pronger.

Do you need that double-double instead of a plain hamburger? You might want it. It might look really good. It could make you feel better. But, you don't need it.

It's all the same.
A golden opportunity is there, seize it! how many norris trophys will that double cheese burger win? :)

Proposal:

Ducks send:

Bobby Ryan + Giguere + 2nd

for

Pronger

overpayment?

Definitely an overpayment IMO.

I'd deal with

Ryan+O'Donnell+2nd

for Pronger

I'd do Ryan + Giguere + O'Donnell for Pronger

If I was Edmonton and looking to make a deal with the Ducks, here's what I'd ask for:

Lupul, Penner and Beaucheim for Pronger.

If I was Edmonton and looking to make a deal with the Ducks, here's what I'd ask for:

Lupul, Penner and Beaucheim for Pronger.

And you would be turned away...

And you would be turned away...

Very, very quickly for that matter.

If I was Edmonton and looking to make a deal with the Ducks, here's what I'd ask for:

Lupul, Penner and Beaucheim for Pronger.

Surely, you're joking? You left out Scott Niedermayer and the new Ducks logo . . . :D

If I was Edmonton and looking to make a deal with the Ducks, here's what I'd ask for:

Lupul, Penner and Beaucheim for Pronger.

Heh...Good luck with that. I think Burke would put Lowe on ignore list if he were that stupid to ask for those 3.

Heh...Good luck with that. I think Burke would put Lowe on ignore list if he were that stupid to ask for those 3.

I don't think Burke would do that deal as he wouldn't want to mortage away all of that young talent.

...And he wouldn't want to trade my favorite player King Beauchemin. :) ;)

Why is O'donnell included in some of the proposals? I don't think he would have any value to the Oilers. Giguere+Ryan+2nd round pick is what I would give for Pronger. However, if a deal were to go down, I wouldn't be surprised to see Perry to go the other way because Lowe wanted him for Comrie before he decided to ruin the whole deal by charging Comrie to go to a western conference club.

OD is in it because of salary dump from our side.

Surely, you're joking? You left out Scott Niedermayer and the new Ducks logo . . . :D

They can have the new logo for free.

They can have the new logo for free.

Logo dump?

Logo dump?
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