Roloson vs. Bryz & Officiating

hockeymistress
05-25-2006, 11:03 AM
Roloson spends a lot of time talking to the refs. In Anaheim he had discussions during almost every TV time out and seemed to be complaining, gesturing a lot and shrugging/pointing. I've seen this body language and lobbying from a lot of goaltenders, but he does it a LOT.

Bryz, on the other hand, doesn't talk to the officials at all. Whether it's because his English isn't good enough or it's part of his "happy go lucky" demeanor, I don't think I've ever seen him say one thing.

Does this lack of "lobbying" the officials have any impact on all? Bryz is never saying, "Hey these guys keep crashing the net," or "You need to pay more attention to this," or "Come on guys you're missing calls" -- or whatever goaltenders say to get into the head of the officials.

Whether or not this kind of "relationship" helps a goaltender, I don't know. I do know that a lot of veterans do have lengthy talks with the officials and voice their concerns or schmooz or do whatever they do, and Bryz does none of that.

Any thoughts?

H.

mmbt
05-25-2006, 11:09 AM
I don't think it makes one lick of difference.

missinthejets
05-25-2006, 12:15 PM
Veterans always get the benfit of the doubt from the officials. Chelios got away with a ton in the detroit/edmonton series, but it seems like a rookie like Matt Greene gets called for nearly everything he does. It's just the way it goes. Roloson being the veterans knows the refs are gonna listen to him if he points things out and they'll watch for it.

rigger
05-25-2006, 01:02 PM
I think it helps, just like when Niedermayer talks to refs or Pronger. The fact is it brings things to the for front that refs were not looking for, maybe a subtle pick in the corners or a little nudge on a goalie in the paint. If the refs see it happen after they will likely call a penalty.

I like it as long as it doesn't go over board. No one likes a whiner and neither do refs. There is a line and you can't go over or it will negatively affect the team.

SenorDingDong
05-25-2006, 01:03 PM
I don't think it makes one lick of difference.

precisely. They just have different mentalities in goal tending, and right now Roloson's seems to be working better.